Blizzard ToS clearly states "Add-ons must be free of charge. All add-ons must be distributed free of charge. Developers may not create “premium” versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on."
People are defending it saying " the guide is separate! It's not part of the addon" which is bogus. The addon is incomplete and the guide completes it. Definitely falls under "charge for services related to the add-on"
@@sage798that’s why they include the first few levels for ‘free’ The addon is complete and works before you pay It’s really understandable why they would want to make money off of an addon that provides huge value to many players. I personally don’t use it but I know how hard addon dev is and they deserve to be paid for the work they do. It’s up to the users to decide if it’s worth paying for
@@powerhouse539 Ain't nothing grey about it, it is absolutely obvious to literally every single person that the guides are required for it to be a complete addon. It's just being ignored and brushed aside.
Kargoz basically did a bubble+HS out of the community. He left all WoW related discords, deleted his LinkedIn, made all his videos on RUclips private etc.
These are the people that have DIRECT contact with the Classic Team. They influence design decisions. They get inside information. It's corrupt and shady. This is what Classic is about.
@@joshuawinstead7621 Because they're using that influence to sell their product? heck, look at Hardcore servers. What a joke that idea is... But guess what it's really good for? Selling leveling guides.
Bro I said 3 years ago that Khargoz looks like typical slime. Pilav created great video how some streamers made people look like sheep's when classic started.
@@TelvanniWizardMoneyGang yeah me too i thought hes a chill guy who really loves classic, but i can remeber that he allways used those silly guides and this allways really lame for me
I just don't get it, none of this should be a surprise. Its never been a secret that Kargoz and co. were trying to expand RXP and make a living off of this business venture. Who wouldn't? its every gamers dream to game for a living. They all still were the biggest advocates of Classic and Hardcore. If you love classic wow or hardcore you owe them a debt of gratitude whether you like it or not. So there was a handful of disgruntled partnerships, that is business. But how many people did they have a positive impact on? You make strong partnerships as well as enemies. Its how it goes. My only fault I give Kargoz is not being more resilient when the griefing or allegations came forth. He should have owned it and told everyone, "ya, no shit, I gotta eat and so do my hard working partners". He's a hell of a businessman and a networker, he's given so much to us classic enjoyers and gotten the balls rolling in more ways than one. Thank you Kargoz from the bottom of my heart, and gfys to all the haters. You don't like RXP? Good for you! I don't like it either and never have. I don't find it to be in the spirit of hardcore or classic at all, and so what did I do about it? I simply chose to not purchase or download it. Problem solved. Grow up people, we are all 30+ years old. This behavior is deplorable, hop off your moral high horses. While @Alexensualtv points the finger at Kargoz for trying to monetize his efforts in world of warcraft he simultaneously does the same thing by being a lynching youtube journalist reporting on the "drama" involved in the very same game and promotes his youtube channel. Theres nothing wrong with that, he has every right to do so, but oh boy the hypocrisy is real with this one.
There's a difference between video format journalism detailing wrong doings and being a leech on underskilled players. Can you spot them? Probably not with that diarrhea of an essay in the way.
Never trust a guy with beady, brown eyes. You know what I'm talking about. Tipsout has them, Kargoz has them, we all know the creep with that certain "look."
@@JimTaylor-o8j It's actually false that he stole 5000. Someone from the community said on staysafe stream that the issue was that rxp had promised to donate 5000 to a tournament but didn't do it anyway. But that is quite a different thing than outright stealing something
The amount of people defending Kargoz actions tells me there are large groups of people in on it and that's what concerns me more and all you gotta do is literally just look through the comments with the highest rating to see what I mean. Absolutely soulless money grubbing goblins that care only about the money.
If it feels likes a rabbit hole it is, this guy needs to go touch grass he’s reaching at nothing. A lot of speed runners played classic hardcore so they made a guide. You pay for that knowledge if you want it’s not that deep. Those same people obviously get to talk to blizzard after the game mode THEY created blows up, there’s no conspiracy it’s just how it works, hurts nobody. Incel vibes
@@FlabbyX2C My favorite part is definitely when Kargoz says "It's Kargozin' time" and Kargozes all over the HC community. My life has never been the same after watching that scene. 🤧
No matter what your stand/take on this is, there's no denying that it really does not look good for Kargoz and the HC community that Kargoz nuked his entire YT channel. A channel that contained plenty of non-HC related videos like his class picking guide for classic, class guides and plenty of other admittedly good videos. I'm stunned at how deep the rabbit hole goes, and just how much there seems (again, I don't have all the facts so emphasis on seems) to be a lack of transparency and honesty to the playerbase on what's going on behind the scenes. Also, given just how many clips were presented here of people either saying things turned south and it all was ended up with selling Rested XP as hard as possible, or people being really cautious to say what's actually going on is a major red flag regardless of where you stand. There's just to many claims and personal statements where it's impossible to at least go 'wait, what?'
Lol, i pop into some WoW content for once. Still same old drama over nothing in a frkn game 😂 man i will always love this game, the players that brought so much good and fun into this world. Then theres the addons, mods, private servers, lore you name it. All the fan made things you guys have worked hard and working hard on with making content, programming stuff, designing art etc. Mad mad respect💪 But the cringe dark side, things like this come on you guys are better then this… i rly hope the scumbag idiots just leave and playerbase gets to be just true down to earth ppl. Even if i wont ever touch any WoW ever again you guys deserve that. I’m not gonna look into this but just get it over with, give the guy a break and continue playing. Someone kicked a ball in his own teams goal so what, we all ppl shit happens some times. Lunch breaks over get back to work peons 👍
The fact that anyone pays for RXP is beyond me. Optimal routes for leveling have been routed and shared amongst the communities, for free mind you, for years. Many private sever players, which classic attracted and was made for, can smell bait from miles away, and RXP is the juiciest worm in the can. Megaaaaa bait. In of itself, it should not exist. Blizzard clearly states you can not charge for nor monetize add-ons. If is effectively, and in essence, a form of RMT like gold buying. The game this day seems plagued with RMT. To call this whole thing a red flag is an understatement. This is more like a red castle, with red carpet, red chandeliers, red lighting, red toilets, red toilet paper, red water, and red flags. This is a whole iceberg of a topic, and we’re just seeing the tip of it. Scary and sad state of things.
yeah that just makes me think "why would i go back to wrath classic and waste my time when there are guys like this that blatently break the rules and nothing happens to them. Oh.. because it makes Blizzard money and everyone is corrupt."
I've always thought employees at Blizzard were behind some of the gold buying websites. It would only make sense. I personally have no problem with gold buying and am in favor of just putting it in the shop.
What really makes it is that fanmade art for every page of the addon. It's like some modern day action replay bootleg you'd use to CHEAT with in the PS2/Gamecube era.
When Sarthe and Winky talk about "making gold in a gdkp" it just hit me that they really are talking about the fact that gold is being traded for RXP. No way that guy is talking about an actual job. The sarcasm and jokes between the cast pretty much confirms it too.
@@kileNoe Does that stop them from wanting to make more money? Look at the past about other streamers controversies like Phantomlord and Psi people who rigged csgo gambling sites illegally for money. In some ways these hustles make more than their fulltime careers as twitch streamers.
Streamers are a big reason why online games like this get destroyed. Buying gold because he has the money for it and because they have connection to the devs shows why they can brag about buying gold without beeing banned. And since the Classic WoW Manager is a defender of stuff like buying gold or stuff like RXP is concerning. But thank god there are still privat servers
The stuff that happens in arpgs is even more crazy. The Forbidden Trove from Path of Exile for example. Capitalism/greed and eventually corruption is destroying everything in our society. Corrupt politicians don't make any more regulations or laws around the internet or big corporations because they are scared, get bought out or are oblivious/indifferent to the unethical practices that happen. Fuck this sick society.
@@undacuvabrotha Not really an arc. As much as Alex is exposing bigger fish, he has always been a narcissist that is mad it wasn't him that blew up. The "what is your favorite racial slur" clip from eons ago sums it up pretty well.
The addon that killed the game by making everyone speed-running it, and not caring about social interactions nor the beautiful world that this game had to offer.
Damn.. to think I really liked Kargoz, and thought he was a good dude who had a real passion for vanilla wow and the community, and to now see him exposed as a money hungry user, who manipulates the vanilla wow community for $$.... no damn better than blizzard itself. I'm done with these dudes.
I won't believe it so easily. He seems like someone who really loves WoW. Perhaps he did let money corrupt him in the end, but I don't think he started or just manipulated the entire time.
This is pretty sad ngl. I participated in the race to Ragefire Chasm and Deadmines because I believed it was just a fun community thing, but then I decided not to keep going because I realized that it was being steered towards a super competitive, tournament-style concept, that wasn't so friendly and community driven anymore. This video sort of confirmed that, and more. Big sadge
Some of us still play oldschool HC SSF mode, SANS GUIDES. The community is there, you just have to wade through the garbage to find it now. Definitely not ideal, but totally doable.
tbh ive been following the WOW HC scene before it became main stream and none of this shocks me. I wont be surprised if the " HC Community" destroys the official launch of HC on arrival. There is already alot of people trying to say how the rules should be and how the servers should be ran instead of letting people play 1 life and move on.
This is beyond pathetic. The whole industry and community of video games in general is rotted to the core. You can "preorder" these guides for FIFTY DOLLARS. Paying 50 dollars for a guide that almost plays the game for you IN VANILLA WOW. Lol, lmao even.
Sadly i bought the RXP ultimate bundle in TBC. WotLK then came out, and the ultimate guide now had it included, for the same price as i had bought it.. but since I bought it during TBC, they wanted another $25 per faction for the WotLK content. That's right... an extra $50 fee charged to existing users for 10 more levels which were now included in the bundle i had already bought. Never giving them another cent.
The amount of people in the comments simping Kargoz... unreal, yes you can simply not use the addon but that doesn't change that he ripped some guy off for $5,000 for no reason and is selling upgrades through a wow addon which is against TOS, there is no grey area here. If they sold the guides on a website that wasn't an addon, no problems but they aren't.
This is kinda weird. You clearly do not like the spirit of the RXP addon so you are trying to act like people working hard to create something that people want to consume is some sort of crime. Its a 100% optional thing. They created one of the most popular self enforced Hardcore community out there and Blizzard used them to help design the official hardcore servers. Isn't this what we have been begging blizzard for since Cata? To listen to the community? When you say things like "They even had a slide named agenda" it makes you sound incredibly dense. An agenda is not bad. It's just a list of things to get done.
Lol I’ve been banned from all their channels for over a year. I said it was a scam to Savix and Tommy and Grays and Kargoz. It’s a scam and against the idea of the community
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Can you really blame these guys though? These are nobodies IRL, wow is their only hope for a decent life. If WoW dies, so do they. These guys will end up working burger king jobs after their streaming careers end unless they do some shady stuff like this on the side to get a retirement fund together
@Tommy Michaud did you even watch the video? It's about more than just an addon dude. A lot of the people connected to Official HC are complete scammers, and Blizzard is all with it.
@@tommyyoutubechannelok have fun not being able to run a dungeon twice when blizz removes dungeon spamming because of these clowns needing to sell guides
@@jaredm8991 As someone who's been playing hardcore on and off since 2020, that's definately not the reason for it. It was mainly made to keep people from teaming up just doing dungeons the whole way to 60. It's a challenge, it was built up to be SSF (solo self-found), not to sit in dungeons for the entire journey.
Admitting to gold buying is the only bad point of this video. Aside from that isn’t setting up a community and being a figurehead making money the goal of almost every streamer?
Hello Asmon, can you talk about the subject of gaming addiction and how it has negative impact on individual lives some time? Do you have any thoughts about the subject?
All these token boys missing the point.. wheres your sense of integrity people. Its all shady behavior and it goes against the spirit of what vanilla is supposed to be.
I knew that Staysafe fella was getting under my skin for absolutely no reason - he gave off weird vibes everytime I saw just 10sec of him.. now I know why.
I don't care much about the HC "community" and their made up game mode, but its pretty funny that this kargoz guy went full damage control after the video released, says alot :D
I knew deep down it was morally correct to source RXP from other places on the internet.. the wow community is extremely generous when it's focused on the community but when you see anything asking for $$ outside of pure donations; look deeper. Thank you for this eye opening video.
A lot of the guys making the best addons do it out of a passion for the game and expect nothing in return. Shagu makes great resources and I've talked to him regularly across multiple servers and never once has the guy asked for money for making one of the best UIs that a lot of players use. If anyone is charging any amount of money for an addon that gives any sort of advantage then that is akin to cheating in my eyes. Either that or a utter failure in the design team on the game who were too lazy to implement something a lot of players would like to see in the game.
Wait, people actually use RXP? Why? For me, it IS all about the journey and leveling in classic is some of the most relaxing play I do in the game. No need to rush the experience.
I still stand by my words in this video. The HC community is kind, generous and enthusiastically wholesome, and it's everything Vanilla was in its best form - just needs to be away from monied agendas.
@@iiilili162 I'm honestly confused by this response? Most of the volunteers are women and quite a few are LGBQT. It's one of the most inclusive communities in wow.
there literally was no hc community before the people this video is going after made Hc content and made their addons. Then they got smart and monetized an OPTIONAL guide, while distributing the HC addon we all enjoy for free as per blizz rules.
@@harrisonliddle7078 Like u said optional addon wich has free alternatives, why are people so butthurt he wants to make money with it. Delusional responses in here
@@iiilili162 Thanks, I think you're right best to just let it go. I honestly can't work out why you're trying to speak to me like this. Have a good day!
Right about what? I was expecting to see a bunch of evidence about how RestedXP is concealing its intentions and lying to the people who buy their service, but that wasn't it at all. It was just "How dare these people try to make money off the community!" That's not particularly cool with some people I guess, but it doesn't warrant the video that was made that had a tone as if their entire business was a scam. I kept waiting for the big reveal. I kept waiting to see how the crypto was involved (it wasn't). I kept waiting for him to get to the point, and he didn't.
Flipmode31 here. Little streamer, big mouth. Now, I never paid for any add-on, gold, mounts, anything thats ever paid to win/customizea toon. People that do. Cool you have disposable income, i don't. I will say this from past experiences with people. "If you wanna judge the character of a person give them money and give them power. It always corrupts and their true colors always show. The thing that really stuck out is what happened with fark. You reachout to the people to try and get something kick started and it turns into their idea and they make money off it. A few months Before the HCAS tournament. Jordy, zdeyn, me, and a few others did a 6 v 6 sfk dungeon race and loser had to write a song and sing it to the winners. We had it shoutcasted by one of the "usual suspects". Shortly after. 6 man teams were in dungeon races for a prize pool. If you have an idea, you almost want to keep it to yourself because what you think would would be fun for the community to do together for laughs, it gets turned into a money making scheme.
I was wondering why wotlk classic didnt hit the same as warmane did, now I know why. Despite the obvious p2w that warmane, somehow a bunch of random russians have more integrity and can create a better wotlk experience than a multi-billion dollar company.
"I am tired of people using our childhood memories to make a quick buck" You just defined literally every cancer Holywood Movie remake of the last 5 years..
@@42Oismybirthday Also don't you dare group up in this MMO because that against the rules unless you doing a dungeon and then your only allowed to do them once.
Ironically RestedXP is garbage. The entire route is treated like a speedrun, and makes you take on riskier challenges when you are in no way prepared for yet. I've had to grind 3 levels to stay ahead of RestedXP
I'm about 17 minutes in, doesn't look good for Kargoz! It appears as if there is a relationship with Blizzard officials to manipulate the game to achieve 3rd party monetary gain. The video is a little wordy, but I will finish it later today. Starting to look like a dumpster fire with Blizzard and anyone associated with it.
at every stage of classic's development and implementation, the grift was built into the very fabric of the game - hence why the blizzard devs - im sure are getting paid off on the DL with crypto by these guys in order to craft the hardcore game and servers to maximize the guide sale grift profits it's literally their business model and what they started with
People trying to make money out of a hobby using a corporate game company. I don’t understand how people get confused. This game was developed to make money. It’s not a community service. I don’t see anything wrong with making money out of this game. If you are still having fun, the game is doing its job. If you don’t want to play the game, you don’t have to. You are allowed to play something else. FFS.
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Blizzard ToS clearly states "Add-ons must be free of charge. All add-ons must be distributed free of charge. Developers may not create “premium” versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on."
People are defending it saying " the guide is separate! It's not part of the addon" which is bogus. The addon is incomplete and the guide completes it. Definitely falls under "charge for services related to the add-on"
It's a gray area. Zygor has been doing the same for years
@@powerhouse539 private servers are a gray area
@@sage798that’s why they include the first few levels for ‘free’
The addon is complete and works before you pay
It’s really understandable why they would want to make money off of an addon that provides huge value to many players. I personally don’t use it but I know how hard addon dev is and they deserve to be paid for the work they do. It’s up to the users to decide if it’s worth paying for
@@powerhouse539 Ain't nothing grey about it, it is absolutely obvious to literally every single person that the guides are required for it to be a complete addon. It's just being ignored and brushed aside.
Kargoz basically did a bubble+HS out of the community. He left all WoW related discords, deleted his LinkedIn, made all his videos on RUclips private etc.
Ya hate to see it
Because a bunch of people were spamming him with bullshit. It's common to remove yourself from social media.
@@jimdandytheboss No he actually did it before the video went live.
@@Agrippa91 did he know this was coming or what?
He quit TBC when he couldn't get Gladiator title, not surprising.
IMO i dont understand anyone that gave them money for an addon to tell you how to play the game in the first place
they are idiot :)
So the griefers were the heroes all along
plot twist
Lmao broooo
Come Back WoW
I miss the ASHRAN war
I want to see a world player and a large-scale war
Blizzard definitely made Rested XP haha
"Top story; Guys turn hobby into business opportunity, more at 11!"
Just know that when you cant do a dungeon more than once its because your boys at rxp are buddies with aggrend and dont want you to.
@@jaredm8991 sounds like more fun
bro did NOT understand the contents of this video (or blatantly chooses to ignore them)
@@Flowoso explain it to us. In 2 sentences - what did Kargoz do to harm people and the WoW community?
@@andunar
No, watch the video...
These are the people that have DIRECT contact with the Classic Team. They influence design decisions. They get inside information. It's corrupt and shady.
This is what Classic is about.
would explain no rdf... aggrend is blowing these twats daily
What's corrupt about that? Why is it bad to have third parties cooperate with the core company?
@@joshuawinstead7621 Because they're using that influence to sell their product?
heck, look at Hardcore servers. What a joke that idea is... But guess what it's really good for? Selling leveling guides.
@@jamesbyrd3740 Why is it bad for someone to sell a product?
@@joshuawinstead7621 It's bad for them to abuse their power to enrich themselves at the detriment of other players.
kargoz boosted to gladiator incident 升级为角斗士事件
offshore restedxp bank accounts 离岸 银行账户
drinkycrow sexual harassment charges 性骚扰指控
another failed race event 另一个失败的比赛项目
kargoz is so bad, never was gladiator material 😂
Bing laow ching bon
Hey its your Boy Kargoz and this is my classic guide on how to make money in classic Rags to Riches.
I love how your about page says you're the "Voldemort" of WoW. I'm the main villain of Albion Online. We are similar youtubers of different worlds. :)
SWOOOOLE! Come back to wow (pservers)
@@Agrippa91 No guild to play with. No point really.
@@SwoleBenji a dammed legendary rogue.
Bro I said 3 years ago that Khargoz looks like typical slime. Pilav created great video how some streamers made people look like sheep's when classic started.
Whats pilavs vid called ?
@@minimundus1712 how not to raid lead in wow
@@minimundus1712 "My apology to asmongold" is one of his great videos, he was a pioneer
@@aleksadmitrovic940 thx man
@@TelvanniWizardMoneyGang yeah me too i thought hes a chill guy who really loves classic, but i can remeber that he allways used those silly guides and this allways really lame for me
havnt looked at Kargoz channel for a while but is it in "response" to this, that all his videos are private at this moment ?
@@Mati-mk5wd im a "looking at both sides of the story" kind a guy but it dosnt look good on Kargos part to make them private
I just don't get it, none of this should be a surprise. Its never been a secret that Kargoz and co. were trying to expand RXP and make a living off of this business venture. Who wouldn't? its every gamers dream to game for a living. They all still were the biggest advocates of Classic and Hardcore. If you love classic wow or hardcore you owe them a debt of gratitude whether you like it or not. So there was a handful of disgruntled partnerships, that is business. But how many people did they have a positive impact on? You make strong partnerships as well as enemies. Its how it goes. My only fault I give Kargoz is not being more resilient when the griefing or allegations came forth. He should have owned it and told everyone, "ya, no shit, I gotta eat and so do my hard working partners". He's a hell of a businessman and a networker, he's given so much to us classic enjoyers and gotten the balls rolling in more ways than one. Thank you Kargoz from the bottom of my heart, and gfys to all the haters. You don't like RXP? Good for you! I don't like it either and never have. I don't find it to be in the spirit of hardcore or classic at all, and so what did I do about it? I simply chose to not purchase or download it. Problem solved. Grow up people, we are all 30+ years old. This behavior is deplorable, hop off your moral high horses. While @Alexensualtv points the finger at Kargoz for trying to monetize his efforts in world of warcraft he simultaneously does the same thing by being a lynching youtube journalist reporting on the "drama" involved in the very same game and promotes his youtube channel. Theres nothing wrong with that, he has every right to do so, but oh boy the hypocrisy is real with this one.
There's a difference between video format journalism detailing wrong doings and being a leech on underskilled players.
Can you spot them?
Probably not with that diarrhea of an essay in the way.
Never trust a guy with beady, brown eyes. You know what I'm talking about. Tipsout has them, Kargoz has them, we all know the creep with that certain "look."
TIPS IN, BABY!
By the way - Kargoz just deleted/hid all of his videos, how much more obvious does it have to be?
Looks like he deleted his discord account too. He's taking the money (all 5k of it kek) and running. Sad!
@@JimTaylor-o8j It's actually false that he stole 5000. Someone from the community said on staysafe stream that the issue was that rxp had promised to donate 5000 to a tournament but didn't do it anyway. But that is quite a different thing than outright stealing something
@@JimTaylor-o8j why do you type like Trump
I wonder if you’ll get reported if you use the guild title or other variations when those servers go live.
I mean getting reported and you having to do something about it are two different things. Mass reports usually only work against single individuals.
😂
Anybody that ever used RestedXP I treated just a like a gold buyer in game. completely useless pieces of crap
The amount of people defending Kargoz actions tells me there are large groups of people in on it and that's what concerns me more and all you gotta do is literally just look through the comments with the highest rating to see what I mean. Absolutely soulless money grubbing goblins that care only about the money.
This has become one hell of a rabbit hole.
If it feels likes a rabbit hole it is, this guy needs to go touch grass he’s reaching at nothing. A lot of speed runners played classic hardcore so they made a guide. You pay for that knowledge if you want it’s not that deep. Those same people obviously get to talk to blizzard after the game mode THEY created blows up, there’s no conspiracy it’s just how it works, hurts nobody. Incel vibes
@@FlabbyX2C My favorite part is definitely when Kargoz says "It's Kargozin' time" and Kargozes all over the HC community. My life has never been the same after watching that scene. 🤧
No matter what your stand/take on this is, there's no denying that it really does not look good for Kargoz and the HC community that Kargoz nuked his entire YT channel. A channel that contained plenty of non-HC related videos like his class picking guide for classic, class guides and plenty of other admittedly good videos. I'm stunned at how deep the rabbit hole goes, and just how much there seems (again, I don't have all the facts so emphasis on seems) to be a lack of transparency and honesty to the playerbase on what's going on behind the scenes.
Also, given just how many clips were presented here of people either saying things turned south and it all was ended up with selling Rested XP as hard as possible, or people being really cautious to say what's actually going on is a major red flag regardless of where you stand. There's just to many claims and personal statements where it's impossible to at least go 'wait, what?'
innocent people dont do that.
@@Mark-ho6tn How am I a simp exactly lol
@@Mark-ho6tnmark is Alex simp
ALWAYS KNEW YOU WERE A KARGOZ SIMP AND HAVE CALLED YOU OUT ON IT IN STREAM LOL
Lol, i pop into some WoW content for once. Still same old drama over nothing in a frkn game 😂 man i will always love this game, the players that brought so much good and fun into this world. Then theres the addons, mods, private servers, lore you name it. All the fan made things you guys have worked hard and working hard on with making content, programming stuff, designing art etc. Mad mad respect💪 But the cringe dark side, things like this come on you guys are better then this… i rly hope the scumbag idiots just leave and playerbase gets to be just true down to earth ppl. Even if i wont ever touch any WoW ever again you guys deserve that. I’m not gonna look into this but just get it over with, give the guy a break and continue playing. Someone kicked a ball in his own teams goal so what, we all ppl shit happens some times. Lunch breaks over get back to work peons 👍
I never would have guessed that the guy that made 5000 dollaridoos in prize money disappear would be this much of a grifter.
Just saw a reddit post about this, and the thread instantly got deleted and the poster banned.
Lol Kargoz just deleted his Linkedin page, deleted his youtube videos, deleted his discord and removed himself from every discord he was in xD
Jesus lmao
Good. That's what happens when your actions catch up with you
Funny, I found this video trying to watch an old Kargoz video.
The fact that anyone pays for RXP is beyond me. Optimal routes for leveling have been routed and shared amongst the communities, for free mind you, for years. Many private sever players, which classic attracted and was made for, can smell bait from miles away, and RXP is the juiciest worm in the can. Megaaaaa bait. In of itself, it should not exist. Blizzard clearly states you can not charge for nor monetize add-ons. If is effectively, and in essence, a form of RMT like gold buying. The game this day seems plagued with RMT.
To call this whole thing a red flag is an understatement. This is more like a red castle, with red carpet, red chandeliers, red lighting, red toilets, red toilet paper, red water, and red flags.
This is a whole iceberg of a topic, and we’re just seeing the tip of it. Scary and sad state of things.
hearing winky brag about having a promo code for buying gold was crazy, shameless as hell
yeah that just makes me think "why would i go back to wrath classic and waste my time when there are guys like this that blatently break the rules and nothing happens to them. Oh.. because it makes Blizzard money and everyone is corrupt."
@@casedistortedYou'll most likely go back to retail which is worse.
I've always thought employees at Blizzard were behind some of the gold buying websites.
It would only make sense.
I personally have no problem with gold buying and am in favor of just putting it in the shop.
What really makes it is that fanmade art for every page of the addon. It's like some modern day action replay bootleg you'd use to CHEAT with in the PS2/Gamecube era.
maybe chatGPT
When Sarthe and Winky talk about "making gold in a gdkp" it just hit me that they really are talking about the fact that gold is being traded for RXP. No way that guy is talking about an actual job. The sarcasm and jokes between the cast pretty much confirms it too.
Lol sarthe Is a full time streamer
@@kileNoe Does that stop them from wanting to make more money? Look at the past about other streamers controversies like Phantomlord and Psi people who rigged csgo gambling sites illegally for money. In some ways these hustles make more than their fulltime careers as twitch streamers.
Tin foil hat theory
@@Abalamski It's hardly tinfoil hat when you have people admitting to it on stream.
Sarthe is universally hated in the classic wotlk community ngl
Streamers are a big reason why online games like this get destroyed. Buying gold because he has the money for it and because they have connection to the devs shows why they can brag about buying gold without beeing banned.
And since the Classic WoW Manager is a defender of stuff like buying gold or stuff like RXP is concerning.
But thank god there are still privat servers
Aggrend is a soyboy...
No surprise there.
The stuff that happens in arpgs is even more crazy. The Forbidden Trove from Path of Exile for example. Capitalism/greed and eventually corruption is destroying everything in our society. Corrupt politicians don't make any more regulations or laws around the internet or big corporations because they are scared, get bought out or are oblivious/indifferent to the unethical practices that happen. Fuck this sick society.
Back to P Servers
Without streamers wow hc wouldnt exist
Yea, private servers never make money lol
from level 17 hunter memes to actual journalism. Funny how long I never saw your name, and the situation is now so different.
@@undacuvabrotha Not really an arc. As much as Alex is exposing bigger fish, he has always been a narcissist that is mad it wasn't him that blew up. The "what is your favorite racial slur" clip from eons ago sums it up pretty well.
I'm glad I pirated the addon.
The addon that killed the game by making everyone speed-running it, and not caring about social interactions nor the beautiful world that this game had to offer.
"it's all about the journey" - Kargoz a few years ago
@@Alexensualtv Good one! kek
It’s definitely sad, it’s a repeat of history.
@@Alexensualtv Money changes people.
@@Alexensualtvevery classic andy would still say that
Damn.. to think I really liked Kargoz, and thought he was a good dude who had a real passion for vanilla wow and the community, and to now see him exposed as a money hungry user, who manipulates the vanilla wow community for $$.... no damn better than blizzard itself. I'm done with these dudes.
Didn't your mom tell you you shouldn't trust strangers?
I have a white van and some candies, wanna come in?
@@legendarydestiny9437 depends, you wanna choke on my 🍆?
@@legendarydestiny9437 lol
I won't believe it so easily. He seems like someone who really loves WoW. Perhaps he did let money corrupt him in the end, but I don't think he started or just manipulated the entire time.
This is pretty sad ngl. I participated in the race to Ragefire Chasm and Deadmines because I believed it was just a fun community thing, but then I decided not to keep going because I realized that it was being steered towards a super competitive, tournament-style concept, that wasn't so friendly and community driven anymore. This video sort of confirmed that, and more. Big sadge
thats why when the token dropped and people cried, i felt nothing
Some of us still play oldschool HC SSF mode, SANS GUIDES. The community is there, you just have to wade through the garbage to find it now. Definitely not ideal, but totally doable.
You've only heard the hit piece, not both sides. Don't be so quick to throw other people under the bus.
@@evilcain13 who? kargoz?
Mcdoubles pog
tbh ive been following the WOW HC scene before it became main stream and none of this shocks me. I wont be surprised if the " HC Community" destroys the official launch of HC on arrival. There is already alot of people trying to say how the rules should be and how the servers should be ran instead of letting people play 1 life and move on.
This is beyond pathetic. The whole industry and community of video games in general is rotted to the core. You can "preorder" these guides for FIFTY DOLLARS. Paying 50 dollars for a guide that almost plays the game for you IN VANILLA WOW. Lol, lmao even.
KARGOZ JUST REMOVED HIS RUclips VIDS AND LEFT HIS DISCORDS RIGHT AFTER THIS VID! WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!
Sadly i bought the RXP ultimate bundle in TBC. WotLK then came out, and the ultimate guide now had it included, for the same price as i had bought it.. but since I bought it during TBC, they wanted another $25 per faction for the WotLK content. That's right... an extra $50 fee charged to existing users for 10 more levels which were now included in the bundle i had already bought.
Never giving them another cent.
The amount of people in the comments simping Kargoz... unreal, yes you can simply not use the addon but that doesn't change that he ripped some guy off for $5,000 for no reason and is selling upgrades through a wow addon which is against TOS, there is no grey area here. If they sold the guides on a website that wasn't an addon, no problems but they aren't.
damn, i feel backstabbed
This is kinda weird. You clearly do not like the spirit of the RXP addon so you are trying to act like people working hard to create something that people want to consume is some sort of crime. Its a 100% optional thing. They created one of the most popular self enforced Hardcore community out there and Blizzard used them to help design the official hardcore servers.
Isn't this what we have been begging blizzard for since Cata? To listen to the community?
When you say things like "They even had a slide named agenda" it makes you sound incredibly dense. An agenda is not bad. It's just a list of things to get done.
Holy shit kargoz is actually hiding his youtube videos and nuking discords in full damage control. This is the biggest Alex W to date.
did they remove the discord link? lol
Fark = peepoTalk
RealPlayer. Poggers in the lair
Realpayo
we miss old payo
Now this is the Alex I remember, good ass video, I see it’s already blowing up, enjoy the ride my friend
Lol I’ve been banned from all their channels for over a year. I said it was a scam to Savix and Tommy and Grays and Kargoz. It’s a scam and against the idea of the community
Same lol I called them out for being cliquey and sus and insta banned
*Final Fantasy 14*
*No BETA's, No Datamining, No Spoilers, Everything is Fair and Blind for all.*
*No Daily Chores or Mandatory Grind, Super casual friendly with a big Community.*
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Can you really blame these guys though? These are nobodies IRL, wow is their only hope for a decent life. If WoW dies, so do they. These guys will end up working burger king jobs after their streaming careers end unless they do some shady stuff like this on the side to get a retirement fund together
LMAO
Bro, don't do the people dirty who serve you. As long as it pays the bills.
unironically understandable lmao
We just want Nostalrius 2...
fr
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nah
@@mohdalmarri5537fr Nostalrius 2 would finna be bussin no cap ong
@@xMorbidArtx I’d rather play a bootleg dragon flight xpac over rinky dink nostalrius made for 40 year olds
If you are not convinced after this video then I am sorry but you deserve this kind of wow. Just open your eyes.
@@tommyyoutubechannelokguess you haven't watched the whole video then
@Tommy Michaud did you even watch the video? It's about more than just an addon dude. A lot of the people connected to Official HC are complete scammers, and Blizzard is all with it.
@@tommyyoutubechannelok have fun not being able to run a dungeon twice when blizz removes dungeon spamming because of these clowns needing to sell guides
@@jaredm8991 As someone who's been playing hardcore on and off since 2020, that's definately not the reason for it. It was mainly made to keep people from teaming up just doing dungeons the whole way to 60. It's a challenge, it was built up to be SSF (solo self-found), not to sit in dungeons for the entire journey.
@@aeparaflux lol scammers XD ah yes the common scam of making a leveling guide
Admitting to gold buying is the only bad point of this video. Aside from that isn’t setting up a community and being a figurehead making money the goal of almost every streamer?
Hello Asmon, can you talk about the subject of gaming addiction and how it has negative impact on individual lives some time? Do you have any thoughts about the subject?
Just stop playing
@@user-cp9id1mj8b OK
11/06 kargoz has unlisted all his youtube videos
Sus
All these token boys missing the point.. wheres your sense of integrity people. Its all shady behavior and it goes against the spirit of what vanilla is supposed to be.
This needs to be signal boosted or something. Glad I never paid for rxp.. oof.
I knew that Staysafe fella was getting under my skin for absolutely no reason - he gave off weird vibes everytime I saw just 10sec of him.. now I know why.
mfs rather pay to read about how to level instead of spamming dungeons
the end of griftedxp...
I wonder how many HC Discord mod alts will be spam commenting here, attacking the video.
So we dont get fresh vanilla because these guys need to farm hardcores...
Who said we won‘t
Maybe thats why xaryu is not using RXP. He might knew something before
I don't care much about the HC "community" and their made up game mode, but its pretty funny that this kargoz guy went full damage control after the video released, says alot :D
C u c k
quest helper not being included is so sus
Lol kargoz private all his videos? Gg nail to the coffin
it's sad when AAA companies are as bad as dealing with a shady dude in a back alley now
This Winky guy gives off some really bad vibes
1000% Something is just off with him.
How to trust someone named Winky
Got the same vibes from him.. Sometimes you can just smell bad character
I knew deep down it was morally correct to source RXP from other places on the internet.. the wow community is extremely generous when it's focused on the community but when you see anything asking for $$ outside of pure donations; look deeper.
Thank you for this eye opening video.
A lot of the guys making the best addons do it out of a passion for the game and expect nothing in return. Shagu makes great resources and I've talked to him regularly across multiple servers and never once has the guy asked for money for making one of the best UIs that a lot of players use. If anyone is charging any amount of money for an addon that gives any sort of advantage then that is akin to cheating in my eyes. Either that or a utter failure in the design team on the game who were too lazy to implement something a lot of players would like to see in the game.
who wasnt getting RXP For free??
@@neoda91 makes me feel even better getting the illegal version of rxp that blizz says your not aloud to charge for addons or any premium features :)
where do i find this version???@@Reduxmobile
A paywall is not a donation though
Wait, people actually use RXP? Why? For me, it IS all about the journey and leveling in classic is some of the most relaxing play I do in the game. No need to rush the experience.
Yep and honestly, if you are new to the game you absolutely don't care, and if you leveled before you just know you way
I usually don’t like and share videos but this needs attention ASAP
I still stand by my words in this video. The HC community is kind, generous and enthusiastically wholesome, and it's everything Vanilla was in its best form - just needs to be away from monied agendas.
@@iiilili162 I'm honestly confused by this response? Most of the volunteers are women and quite a few are LGBQT. It's one of the most inclusive communities in wow.
there literally was no hc community before the people this video is going after made Hc content and made their addons. Then they got smart and monetized an OPTIONAL guide, while distributing the HC addon we all enjoy for free as per blizz rules.
@@iiilili162 You're being so random right now I don't understand. I don't work for RXP and anyone who knows me knows I'm not a fan.
@@harrisonliddle7078 Like u said optional addon wich has free alternatives, why are people so butthurt he wants to make money with it. Delusional responses in here
@@iiilili162 Thanks, I think you're right best to just let it go. I honestly can't work out why you're trying to speak to me like this. Have a good day!
Because of the recent videos you did of RestedXP, I have deleted my RestedXP account.
Alex Was Right
who is alex
@@Acolisthis guy
A lot of crying for people freely buying junk for a game they chose to play. Lame.
Right about what? I was expecting to see a bunch of evidence about how RestedXP is concealing its intentions and lying to the people who buy their service, but that wasn't it at all. It was just "How dare these people try to make money off the community!" That's not particularly cool with some people I guess, but it doesn't warrant the video that was made that had a tone as if their entire business was a scam.
I kept waiting for the big reveal. I kept waiting to see how the crypto was involved (it wasn't). I kept waiting for him to get to the point, and he didn't.
RXP has been sus ever since 95% of streamers advertised RXP and at the same time claimed they weren't getting sponsored
valid points. good receipts. makes me think twice about giving bliz my cash.
Alenya at 27 mins says what is my biggest issue with this. Idc if they make a billion dollars, but they are ruining what HC should be in the process.
People say that about literally every single thing blizzard does. And they were saying that while WOW was still on the rise.
we did it boys! over 50k views! Grats Alex! ^^
Not sure if it's related or not but Kargo's youtube video's were wiped a couple of days ago
Worst thing is this guy Winky and people like him, blatant gold buyers having access to blizzard decisionmaking.
they are deleting this video link or anyone talking about this on sight
This video is about to blowup.
Funny how all those streamers are making fucking reaction videos of every classic related youtube video other than this one.
Hate most streamers
Hate most youtubers
Hate Blizzard
Love Vanilla
Love TBC
Simple as
True Vanilla Geezer
Is there a tldr cause skimming throught it I didn't encounter anything suprising or disgusting.
"you think you want it, but you don't really want it"
Flipmode31 here. Little streamer, big mouth. Now, I never paid for any add-on, gold, mounts, anything thats ever paid to win/customizea toon. People that do. Cool you have disposable income, i don't. I will say this from past experiences with people. "If you wanna judge the character of a person give them money and give them power. It always corrupts and their true colors always show. The thing that really stuck out is what happened with fark. You reachout to the people to try and get something kick started and it turns into their idea and they make money off it. A few months Before the HCAS tournament. Jordy, zdeyn, me, and a few others did a 6 v 6 sfk dungeon race and loser had to write a song and sing it to the winners. We had it shoutcasted by one of the "usual suspects". Shortly after. 6 man teams were in dungeon races for a prize pool. If you have an idea, you almost want to keep it to yourself because what you think would would be fun for the community to do together for laughs, it gets turned into a money making scheme.
I was wondering why wotlk classic didnt hit the same as warmane did, now I know why. Despite the obvious p2w that warmane, somehow a bunch of random russians have more integrity and can create a better wotlk experience than a multi-billion dollar company.
Now that anniversary realms are live, every single streamer, big and small, are all using rested xp and shilling it on their channel.
Imagine paying to get an addon kekw
Was wondering where Kargoz went all of a sudden. Barely seen him recently. Hella sus.
"I am tired of people using our childhood memories to make a quick buck"
You just defined literally every cancer Holywood Movie remake of the last 5 years..
LMAO dude whining about kargoz making money off wow and here he is running ads on his video to make money 😂 the hypocrisy is unreal 😂😂😂😂😂
This just seems like good business minds to me
Kargoz has since deleted all of his videos
The fact that rxp isn't banned for "hardcore" makes no sense... how tf is it hardcore if you get your hand held while leveling?
Yeah you are right, on official hc servers having any addon should disqualify you.
But don't you dare ask for buffs that's against the rules!!!!!
@@42Oismybirthday Also don't you dare group up in this MMO because that against the rules unless you doing a dungeon and then your only allowed to do them once.
WTF I was just asking what happened to Kargoz and NomNom as I'd watch both of them a lot the past year and they both just fell off the earth.
50k views!! Its 2023 right?
Ironically RestedXP is garbage. The entire route is treated like a speedrun, and makes you take on riskier challenges when you are in no way prepared for yet. I've had to grind 3 levels to stay ahead of RestedXP
What's wrong with the dude's voice @ 13:15?
It’s a transformer
I always hated the "community", "content creators" and "twitch" dynamics. It feels so disingenuous
I'm about 17 minutes in, doesn't look good for Kargoz! It appears as if there is a relationship with Blizzard officials to manipulate the game to achieve 3rd party monetary gain. The video is a little wordy, but I will finish it later today. Starting to look like a dumpster fire with Blizzard and anyone associated with it.
at every stage of classic's development and implementation, the grift was built into the very fabric of the game - hence why the blizzard devs - im sure are getting paid off on the DL with crypto by these guys in order to craft the hardcore game and servers to maximize the guide sale grift profits
it's literally their business model and what they started with
rested xp in addon for absolute imbecils with 55 iq. change my mind
People trying to make money out of a hobby using a corporate game company. I don’t understand how people get confused. This game was developed to make money. It’s not a community service. I don’t see anything wrong with making money out of this game. If you are still having fun, the game is doing its job. If you don’t want to play the game, you don’t have to. You are allowed to play something else. FFS.