Dear Faisal Beta, I love your programs and respect your knowledge. I have spent a life time in the USA. I have been a scientist and a student of history, Philosophy and comparative theology. I stared watching this podcast as the gentleman started with the concept of narcissism and its impact on Muslims. His concept of narcissism in relationship to Muslims is very interesting and unique and I do agree to it, later in the podcast his analysis of Trump’s policy was quite average. He was very poor on Pakistan.
Faisal Bhai AP 10 martaba podcast bnaen hamen koi etraz nahin hamen to is main interest hai ke Jo Kuch Pakistan pe hua or Jo Kuch duniya main ho Raha hai hum uska wait krtr Hain so plz history of Pakistan ki episode number 61 bhejen Jo Jo friends agree krtr Hain wo bhi Faisal Bhai se request kren thanks
yes , but In Pakistan india or whole south asia, the problem isn't narcissism; it's actually an identity crisis. What do we have to do with Arab civilization, their conquests, religious philosophers, and so-called scientists? We weren't even Muslims at that time; we were Hindus or Buddhists. We just need to reconnect with our roots. As Punjabis and Sindhis, we're descendants of people like Chanakya, and Taxila University belongs to us. Why do our mullahs talk about Baghdad civilization? We have nothing to do with that so-called bright past. It's not the narcissism but the identity crisis that we need to cure.
In Pakistan india or whole south asia, the problem isn't narcissism; it's actually an identity crisis. What do we have to do with Arab civilization, their conquests, religious philosophers, and so-called scientists? We weren't even Muslims at that time; we were Hindus or Buddhists. We just need to reconnect with our roots. As Punjabis and Sindhis, we're descendants of people like Chanakya, and Taxila University belongs to us. Why do our mullahs talk about Baghdad civilization? We have nothing to do with that so-called bright past. It's not the narcissism but the identity crisis that we need to cure.
ہمیشہ کی طرح اپ کا پروگرام بہت ہی اچھا ہوا ہے جس طرح اس نے بات کی کہ فاٹا میں واقعی گن کلچر اور ہیروئن ہر چیز دستیاب ہے ہر جو اس ملک میں ہوتا ہے وہ فاٹا سے ہو کر گزرتا ہے اور ہم خود دیکھتے ہیں یہ سب کچھ
I was longing & curious for a podcast like this!as a Pakistani living in North America I am also a witness how we are unable to integrate fully&living in our own bubble.
At 26:03 Sir Mubarak Says: Ghazai get the mathematician and scholars of his age killed The allegation that Imam Al-Ghazali caused scholars and mathematicians to be killed is not supported by credible historical evidence and is largely regarded as a baseless accusation. Here’s a breakdown of the issue: 1. Historical Context: Imam Al-Ghazali (1058-1111) was a prominent Islamic theologian, philosopher, and mystic. His works, such as Tahafut al-Falasifa (The Incoherence of the Philosophers), criticized certain aspects of Islamic philosophy, particularly ideas influenced by Greek philosophy, but his critique was intellectual and theological, not physical or violent. 2. No Evidence of Persecution: There is no historical record or credible source that directly links Al-Ghazali to acts of persecution or violence against scholars or mathematicians. His disagreements were philosophical, not personal or political. 3. Misinterpretation of His Work: Some have misrepresented Al-Ghazali's critique of philosophers like Avicenna (Ibn Sina) and Al-Farabi to suggest hostility toward scientific inquiry. However, Al-Ghazali did not reject science; he opposed certain metaphysical claims that he believed contradicted Islamic doctrine. 4. The Broader Allegation: The claim that Al-Ghazali’s influence led to a decline in scientific progress in the Muslim world is a separate debate, often contested by historians. Many argue that the decline was due to political and economic factors rather than his philosophical writings. The accusation that Al-Ghazali caused harm to scholars or mathematicians is unsupported and likely a distortion of his intellectual legacy. It’s more of a narrative perpetuated by critics than a fact backed by evidence.
What you are saying is like this : Zia is not responsible for extreme differences & killing between shia & sunni . & There are historical evidences regarding what happened to philosopher of those times. Please check it out.
ہمارا معاشرہ آزاد ہونا چاہتا مسلہ یہ ہے کہ ہم یا تو ہر چیز سے بلکل آزاد ہو جاتے یا اس میں غرق ہو جاتے دنیا کے ساتھ چلنا اور اپنے مذہب اور اخلاق کے ساتھ چلنا سیکھنا ہے
At 25:44: Sir, Mobarak Sb says: Science is correct. And my religion should be changed as per the science Mobarak Sb's assertion about aligning religion with science raises an important philosophical and epistemological question. While many believe science and religion to be "mutually exclusive" like binary outcomes in a coin toss, this perspective seems unnecessarily restrictive. Edward de Bono's concept of parallel thinking offers an alternative framework, where differing paradigms-science and religion in this case-can coexist without negating one another. Science, rooted in empirical evidence, and religion, often anchored in metaphysical and moral dimensions, operate within distinct domains. They need not oppose or redefine each other but can exist as complementary systems, offering unique insights into the human experience. This approach fosters dialogue rather than conflict, enriching both perspectives. What are your thoughts on how this parallel coexistence might look in practice?
ڈاکٹر صاحب سے یہ سوال ضرور کریں کہ امریکن نارسس ازم اور پاکستانی نارسس ازم میں موازنہ کرکے بتائیں کہ کون بڑا نادسسٹ ہے اور کس کے نارسس ازم سے دنیا کو خطرہ ہے
In Pakistan india or whole south asia, the problem isn't narcissism; it's actually an identity crisis. What do we have to do with Arab civilization, their conquests, religious philosophers, and so-called scientists? We weren't even Muslims at that time; we were Hindus or Buddhists. We just need to reconnect with our roots. As Punjabis and Sindhis, we're descendants of people like Chanakya, and Taxila University belongs to us. Why do our mullahs talk about Baghdad civilization? We have nothing to do with that so-called bright past. It's not the narcissism but the identity crisis that we need to cure.
Actually you are saying that we should stick to our roots even knowing that they were severly wrong misguided in some fields And actually this is narcissim that you can't digest that a civilization can be better than our own civilization
@@farhankhalilappan2496 ha bhai mai manta hu meri country mai boht se andbhakt bnn gya h jinko lagta h vo sabse superior h isliya vo Pakistani or ek community ko boht hate karte h or rhi baat discipline ki to vo jyada sar indians msu bhi nhi h ! Love from india ❤
@muhammadsajjad1206 I am not talking about Alhamdulilah but I am muslim part. Shouldwe call ourselfs muslim when we do sins everyday? Sahabas use to cry alot even when they were better than us but weren't sure that God is pleased with them.
نرگس کا پھول اس طرح سے ڈیزائن ہوتا ہے کہ وہ اپنی جانب جھکا ہوا ہوتا ہے اور اس کے درمیان میں آنکھ جیسا نشان بنا ہوتا ہے اس لیے جو شخص اپنی ذات کے حصار میں کھو جائے اپنے آپ سے عشق ہو جائے اسے نرگسیت کہتے ہیں ۔ ایک شعر ہے کہ اگر فردوس بر روئے زمیں است ہمیں است و ہمیں است و ہمیں است
He is genuinely concerned about the narcissistic behavior of Muslims but at the same time he is targeting the family system(Values of Pakistani families) living abroad by saying that they are hostile type of neighbors or don't allow their daughters to live freely. Why would they change their values. Just to tell them that we are like you? As long as Muslims living abroad don't have problems inside their families especially with their children, there is no need to lecture them about changing their style of living/values according to the majority of the people living around them. I've seen Muslims are growing here in US in every field with keeping their values.
What family system?, meaning women have to be housewife and do all the chores and not earn money while Man enjoys the freedoms of living in western society..🤣🤣
Jewish called themselves chosen people, America called itself Great America, Britain called itself Great Britain, German, Russia proud their History , every nation has their hero and they proudly accept that. But if we Muslim proud of our ancestors and say Alhamdulillah then this is the problem for "Your Guest". Muslims should be involved in modern technology and science.
پاکستان کے لوگوں کے بار ے میں جو تجزیہ کیا ہے وہ سمجھ آ رہا ہے لیکن جو مبارک حیدر صاحب مختلف سسٹم کی اور امریکہ کی کا تجزیہ کر رہاہے وہ سمجھ سے بالا تر ہے ، خاص کر جو ٹرمپ کے بارے میں کہ رہاہے۔
انٹرویو کے شروع کی گفتگو بہترین تھی 🎉 اور باقی ۔۔ انتہائی متعصبانہ رویہ ہے مذہبی لوگوں کے خلاف ،سوال تھا پاکستان ان حالات سے کیسے نکل تو جواب ملا مذہبی لوگوں کو کنٹورل؟؟؟ مطلب باقی پوری قوم ،ادارے اپنے حصے کا ٹھیک کام کر ؟ ہر چیز میں بہتری کی گنجائش ہوتی ہے مذہبی جماعتوں اور لیڈرذ کو ایک سمعت دینی چاہیے یہ ریاست کی ذمہ داری ہے۔
@@siddharthkalantri5076 25 crore Karachi say laikar china Kai border tak rehtay hai Sindh Punjab KPK Balochistan azaad kashmir Giglit baltistan tak rehnay walay pakistani 🇵🇰 hai aur region province ethnicity wise diversified hai to sab ko unity Mai rehna Mai hi faida hai division waha hota hay jaha aik particular rehnay walay logo ki majority ho
@@siddharthkalantri5076 pakistan 🇵🇰 Mai 80 Saal say koi bhi ethnicity Wala insaan Kahi bhi migrate karsakta hay aur waha Zameen khareed sakta hay waha ki ownership waha ka native bansakta hay lindustani 🐖🇮🇳 laws nahi hai pakistan 🇵🇰 Mai kai koi aik state ka insaan dosray state muntakeel nahi hosakta Sindh province Mai 1947 Mai Urdu speaking logo ki settlement howi aur Baad Mai pashtuns ki bhi jissay Sindh ki population 40 percent non Sindhis ki hogi aur Balochistan Mai bhi majority 55 percent pashtuns population hay 45 percent baloch barohi population hai Baloch brohi population Sindh aur south Punjab Mai migrate howi wi hai 70 ethnicities languages hai pakistan 🇵🇰 Mai Jo different different regions Mai rehti hai provinces sirf 4 hai aur pakistan 🇵🇰 Mai languages ethnicities ki base par province (states) bhi nahi bantay kuo Kai ye hamari ideology Kai against hai
How please explain? secularism means give rights to all religion communities living in the same society And that What Islam says is Islam you can't live with African Christians or Hindu's or any other religion no it didn't say this Scientific means to solve the problem with logic is Islam says that you can't use logic no it's incorrect so How we became more secular and Scientific?
مبارک حیدر صاحب خوش رہیں بہت اچھی وضاحت ہماری مجبوری ہے کہ ہم ہر بات خدا اؤر رسول سے منصوب کرتے ہیں لیکن جہاں ہم زمینی حقائق کو نظر انداز کرتے ہیں ہمارا نارسزم ہمارے دلوں میں الجھاؤ پیدا کرتا ہے اگر ہم غلطیاں کر کے صرف عقیدے کے طور پر توبہ کرنے تک خود کو محدود رکھیں اور عملی اصلاح نہ کریں تو زہن نآرسزم کو فرار کا رستہ بنا دیتا ہے
Modernized aur westernized main difference ha sir modernized hona achhi cheez lekin westernized hona slavery ka symbol ha Saudi Arabia iss waqt jo kaam Kar raha ha uss ka zyada connection westernization se ha na ke modernization se, Saudi ki policy main west ke personal aur family way of life ko apne personal aur family way of life par fooqiat dena ha na ke west ke political aur technological way ko ikhtiar karna jis main freedom of speech democracy aur science aur technology ke kaam shamil hain casino clubs aur baday hotels aur building se sirf ayashi ke liye aane wale tourist se paisa hasil ho sakta iss se awam aur mulk strong ni ho sakta aap ka economical aur strategically control tou unhi ka ho ga jin countries ne science technology aur political way main Kam kya ha
Q ki aap islam ya madrhse ki talim loge tu aap chnda mangne wale bnoge or duniya ya sainc ki talim loge tu tarqi kroge mehnat kroge or logo ki bhali kronge 😊😊
Tujhe kon liberalism ki dawat de rha he??? Pakistan 🇵🇰 me kon liberal education deta he? Pakistan me tumhe kisi Christian ne dawat di ya kisi Hindu ne? Dawat dena allow he likin doosron ko ghatia smjhna kia he?
"الحمدللہ میں مسلمان ھوں" نرگسیت نہیں ایمان کا حصہ ھے۔ لبرل ازم ایمان اور اسلام کو ترک کرنے کی ترغیب ھے۔ اسلام سائنسی تحقیق کی حوصلہ افزائی کرتا ھے۔ مسلمانوں میں تقلید اور نرگسیت بہر حال موجود ھے جو دماغوں کو بند کئے ھوئے ھے۔
ان کی کتابیں ' تہذیبی نرگسیت ' اور ' مبالغے مغالطے ' پڑھنے کے میرے سوچنے کا نظریہ تبدیل ہو گیا ہے. یہی کتابیں تھیں جنہوں نے مجھے نئی سوچ دی. یقیناً یہ کتابیں ان کی عظیم کاوش ہے. جن کو سراہا جانا چاہئے... . عمدہ ڈسکشن .❤
go فیصل صاحب آپ کو کاؤنٹر کرنا تھا کئی باتوں پر کوئی مسلمان سائنس کو غلط نہیں کہتا مگر حضور سائنس پر ایمان تو سائنس دان خود نہیں لاتے ان میں لاکھوں اختلافات ہیں ۔ اس میں بہت ساری بونگیاں ہیں ۔ Copied
All religions are man made, however Islamic philosophy is narrow, limited, rigid, and unfit for this world. Following the unchanging philosophy in the changing world is foolish and stupid. Let's adopt global identity and promote humanity. Thank you
"Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiq were like agents of the British, and this person (referring to someone) is a 'free Muslim' (i.e., a nominal or superficial Muslim), not a fundamental (true) Muslim. How, then, will such a person promote Islam in the world?"
@@MuhammadRafiq-pu6xq They are doing both things and as per their interests. For instance US helped Muslims in Bosnia but started un-necessary regime change in Iraq (which in fact did not serve any interest). West is not very cohesive (diferent countries behave differently) usually not doing much on its own. Both of them do provide asylum, money and even political support to many oppressed as long as it is not harmful to their own interests. What do you think Islam or Muslim countries are doing ?
75 سال سے جو ظلم بنگالیوں بلوچوں پٹھانوں کراچی میں ہوا اس کا ذمہ دار خالصتا کون ہے سب کو پتہ ہے لیکن یہ بندہ مجال ہے کسی جنرل کو چھوٹی سی نصیحت بھی کر دے 🇵🇰
Interesting interview. Professionally done. Commendable job by the Host and his team for all they put behind this episode. Really worth listening!! Thanks.
فیصل صاحب آپ کو کاؤنٹر کرنا تھا کئی باتوں پر کوئی مسلمان سائنس کو غلط نہیں کہتا مگر حضور سائنس پر ایمان تو سائنس دان خود نہیں لاتے ان میں لاکھوں اختلافات ہیں ۔ اس میں بہت ساری بونگیاں ہیں ۔
25:20 جو انہوں نے کہا کہ کرسچن کہہ سکتا کہ ہمارا مذہب سائنس اور دوستی کا ہے مسلمان نئی کہہ سکتا تو فصیل بھائی کلئر کریں ہمارا دین اسلام کی اصلیت محبت خلوص انصاف ہے بس ہم تھوڑا بھٹک چکے اس کا یہ مطلب نئی کہ اب ہم ٹھیک اور غلط کو مکس کر دیں
@@adnanaslam8715 Dekho Bhai main na pora podcast Sona hai theek hai Pehli bat tu yai muyaziz admi Pakistan ki current situation ko b nhi janta Dosra Bhai sahab agar bande na koi positive guide krni ho tu os ka bhi aik tareeqa hota hai. Os ka lia AP ki sooch Badi or apna against bat Sunna ka hosla hona chahia Iqbal na yai b tu kha hai تھے تو آبا وہ تھارے ہی مگر تم کیا ہو ہاتھ پر ہاتھ دھرے منتظرِ فردا ہو جن کو آتا نہیں دنیا میں کوئی فن تم ہو نہیں جس قوم کو پرواز نشیمن تم ہو Yar aik bat Suno yai American ki 2numbri asani SE nzar nhi ati is ka lia deep analysis ki zroorat hai Bhai sahab Baqi alhamdullillah hum Muslim hai or kamzoor b hain Dr afia Siddiqui jail main hai , Dr. A.Q Khan ka Hal Tum na dakhai Brother is dunya ko smajna buhat mushkil hai Baki shoodo hmain Kisi ko satisfy krna ki koi zroorat nahi hai
Dr. Mobarak Haider | a great intellectual. I agree 👍 💯 with most of his opinions. He is legend who travelled most of world, & now giving his observations. Pls listen to him.
سر انسان کو الزام نہ دیں ۔ پھر انسان ہی ہے جو ضابطہ بناتا ہے ۔ یہ انسان کا نیچر ہے ۔کوئی اور مرئی چیز نہیں یا کوئی ایسا نہیں جسکی انسان کو ضرورت ہو اخلاق کے لئے۔
What sort of individual would take umbrage with Muslims uttering the phrase "Alhamdulillah, I am a Muslim"? Allow me to enlighten you, Mr. Pathological Narcissist. As a European female who has reverted to Islam from a Christian or atheist background, I must say, "Alhamdulillah" indeed. Enough of the vitriol emanating from this channel. Having watched several videos from this channel, I, unlike the apparently illiterate and uneducated viewers, have identified numerous glaring errors in the logic presented. Most of the 'facts' and 'figures' cited are either incorrect, outdated, or half-truths. This intellectual dishonesty has been a pathological trait of the host's personality, but today he has surpassed even his own dubious standards, making it high time to unsubscribe.
Sir, Muslims proudly says that science is our pride. Don't you remember Muslim scientific descoveries and inventions, the golden era of science and tech?
Asslamo Alaikum Dear Ustad e Mohattram Sain Faisal Bhai Faisal Bhai please ek baar curiosity podcast me Syed muzzamil shah ko bulaaiye aur philosophy pe baat kijiye❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Q k me apa dono ka buhut bara fan hoon aur aap ko ek Saath dekhna Chahta hooon❤❤
Deen bhi Zindagi lazmi he or apni Muslim umma k liye science k zariye tarki karna bhi lazim he ye elam se hogi islye apne bacho ko parhao take wo kuch kar saken
1:59:12 “NO one in Pakistan wants to work, including the PM”……… I fully agree and to me the ROOT CAUSE of our problem is, BEGGAR mentality is clearly visible ALL over the society, from families to the government.
ONLY ONE WORD FOR YOU SIR FAISAL WARRAICH
"BEST TEACHER LIVING IN PAKISTAN"
Halak hon gea is ka baa0
you were trying to say best teacher ALIVE
not a word actually
Dear Faisal Beta, I love your programs and respect your knowledge. I have spent a life time in the USA. I have been a scientist and a student of history, Philosophy and comparative theology.
I stared watching this podcast as the gentleman started with the concept of narcissism and its impact on Muslims. His concept of narcissism in relationship to Muslims is very interesting and unique and I do agree to it, later in the podcast his analysis of Trump’s policy was quite average. He was very poor on Pakistan.
agree. over exaggerating... One more thing he seems like only portaging good image Trump due to his JOB ROLE.
Spot on Sir
Faisal Bhai AP 10 martaba podcast bnaen hamen koi etraz nahin hamen to is main interest hai ke Jo Kuch Pakistan pe hua or Jo Kuch duniya main ho Raha hai hum uska wait krtr Hain so plz history of Pakistan ki episode number 61 bhejen Jo Jo friends agree krtr Hain wo bhi Faisal Bhai se request kren thanks
A BIG YES
Yes
Hum demand ni request krni chahiye
@deepes567 theek main correct krta hun
Yes it's a request
Most of Pakistani can't digest this type of podcast.
Real
yes , but In Pakistan india or whole south asia, the problem isn't narcissism; it's actually an identity crisis.
What do we have to do with Arab civilization, their conquests, religious philosophers, and so-called scientists? We weren't even Muslims at that time; we were Hindus or Buddhists.
We just need to reconnect with our roots. As Punjabis and Sindhis, we're descendants of people like Chanakya, and Taxila University belongs to us. Why do our mullahs talk about Baghdad civilization? We have nothing to do with that so-called bright past.
It's not the narcissism but the identity crisis that we need to cure.
He's right but not completely
@@TheSonOfSoil-Indus In first part of your comment i agree with you, but the second part would again be a kind of narcissm
@@saimjaved7548
its healty narcissism,
ہم لبرل کے چکر میں غافل نئی ہو سکتے اور پاکستانی مللاوں کے پیچھے لگ کر جنونی بھی نئی ہونا ہمیں اچھا انسان بننا ہے تعلیم یافتہ
In Pakistan india or whole south asia, the problem isn't narcissism; it's actually an identity crisis.
What do we have to do with Arab civilization, their conquests, religious philosophers, and so-called scientists? We weren't even Muslims at that time; we were Hindus or Buddhists.
We just need to reconnect with our roots. As Punjabis and Sindhis, we're descendants of people like Chanakya, and Taxila University belongs to us. Why do our mullahs talk about Baghdad civilization? We have nothing to do with that so-called bright past.
It's not the narcissism but the identity crisis that we need to cure.
@@sabigulanatv6898 TLP zindabad
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@@TheSonOfSoil-Induscopy paste
@@TheSonOfSoil-IndusI proud I'm punjabi. I proud mery abo ajdad hindu ty ❤
At last one genuine genius person in Pakistan.
God bless him, hope people listen to him and change their attitudes looking at other religions.
hr bkwaaas bnday ko lindus support krtay hain
liberals k liyay jagah nhi ha hamari country ma
There are many.
@@sobiabajwa7478But they are told that all the knowledge of universe is in one book only. So no other expert and book is useful for them.
You too have one "Major Gaurav Arya".Genius among all breeds😂😂😂
@@sobiabajwa7478where are they maqroor musala
ہمیشہ کی طرح اپ کا پروگرام بہت ہی اچھا ہوا ہے جس طرح اس نے بات کی کہ فاٹا میں واقعی گن کلچر اور ہیروئن ہر چیز دستیاب ہے ہر جو اس ملک میں ہوتا ہے وہ فاٹا سے ہو کر گزرتا ہے اور ہم خود دیکھتے ہیں یہ سب کچھ
One of the best intellectuals mr mubarak haider its really nice listening to you
love from India 🇮🇳 hoping to meet you some day
I was longing & curious for a podcast like this!as a Pakistani living in North America I am also a witness how we are unable to integrate fully&living in our own bubble.
I thought muslim Americans have integrated but not European muslims.
Bahut gaur ke layaq hai ye podcast. Play at 1.5x, love from india
2.x pay rana from Germany belong to daska Pakistan, you are right
I'm listening at 2x and it's still understandable and will save 1 hour
At 26:03 Sir Mubarak Says: Ghazai get the mathematician and scholars of his age killed
The allegation that Imam Al-Ghazali caused scholars and mathematicians to be killed is not supported by credible historical evidence and is largely regarded as a baseless accusation. Here’s a breakdown of the issue:
1. Historical Context: Imam Al-Ghazali (1058-1111) was a prominent Islamic theologian, philosopher, and mystic. His works, such as Tahafut al-Falasifa (The Incoherence of the Philosophers), criticized certain aspects of Islamic philosophy, particularly ideas influenced by Greek philosophy, but his critique was intellectual and theological, not physical or violent.
2. No Evidence of Persecution: There is no historical record or credible source that directly links Al-Ghazali to acts of persecution or violence against scholars or mathematicians. His disagreements were philosophical, not personal or political.
3. Misinterpretation of His Work: Some have misrepresented Al-Ghazali's critique of philosophers like Avicenna (Ibn Sina) and Al-Farabi to suggest hostility toward scientific inquiry. However, Al-Ghazali did not reject science; he opposed certain metaphysical claims that he believed contradicted Islamic doctrine.
4. The Broader Allegation: The claim that Al-Ghazali’s influence led to a decline in scientific progress in the Muslim world is a separate debate, often contested by historians. Many argue that the decline was due to political and economic factors rather than his philosophical writings.
The accusation that Al-Ghazali caused harm to scholars or mathematicians is unsupported and likely a distortion of his intellectual legacy. It’s more of a narrative perpetuated by critics than a fact backed by evidence.
What you are saying is like this : Zia is not responsible for extreme differences & killing between shia & sunni . & There are historical evidences regarding what happened to philosopher of those times. Please check it out.
One of the best podcast from Pakistan....great insights into the society and particularly on the psycy of subcontinent Muslims
ان کا اپنا نظریہ ہے کچھ باتیں ٹھیک بھی ہیں لیکن زیادہ تر میرے خیال میں ایسا نہیں ہے۔
ہمارا معاشرہ آزاد ہونا چاہتا مسلہ یہ ہے کہ ہم یا تو ہر چیز سے بلکل آزاد ہو جاتے یا اس میں غرق ہو جاتے دنیا کے ساتھ چلنا اور اپنے مذہب اور اخلاق کے ساتھ چلنا سیکھنا ہے
Jabardast comment🎉
Love and respect from india🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
@NileshMishra4778 🥰💖
Excellent analysis 👍
Inki book kharidni parregi ❤
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At 25:44: Sir, Mobarak Sb says: Science is correct. And my religion should be changed as per the science
Mobarak Sb's assertion about aligning religion with science raises an important philosophical and epistemological question. While many believe science and religion to be "mutually exclusive" like binary outcomes in a coin toss, this perspective seems unnecessarily restrictive. Edward de Bono's concept of parallel thinking offers an alternative framework, where differing paradigms-science and religion in this case-can coexist without negating one another.
Science, rooted in empirical evidence, and religion, often anchored in metaphysical and moral dimensions, operate within distinct domains. They need not oppose or redefine each other but can exist as complementary systems, offering unique insights into the human experience. This approach fosters dialogue rather than conflict, enriching both perspectives.
What are your thoughts on how this parallel coexistence might look in practice?
ڈاکٹر صاحب سے یہ سوال ضرور کریں کہ امریکن نارسس ازم اور پاکستانی نارسس ازم میں موازنہ کرکے بتائیں کہ کون بڑا نادسسٹ ہے اور کس کے نارسس ازم سے دنیا کو خطرہ ہے
Pakistan 😂
American narcism counter hota he. Trump do bar elect hua he hum great nahi so make america great again ke nare pe jita
Our’s endangering us.
بھارتی نارسززم بہت خطر ناک ہے
No, here it is purely religious while in America it is of race & science
Only person in Pakistan who have knowledge of real history...Mr Haider
Thank you for such a informative dialogue I was stuck in continuously 2 hour without break❤
I'm just floored. What a wonderful way to analyse and explain. Highly recommended.
In Pakistan india or whole south asia, the problem isn't narcissism; it's actually an identity crisis.
What do we have to do with Arab civilization, their conquests, religious philosophers, and so-called scientists? We weren't even Muslims at that time; we were Hindus or Buddhists.
We just need to reconnect with our roots. As Punjabis and Sindhis, we're descendants of people like Chanakya, and Taxila University belongs to us. Why do our mullahs talk about Baghdad civilization? We have nothing to do with that so-called bright past.
It's not the narcissism but the identity crisis that we need to cure.
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So you want to identify yourself from land instead of a thought that what is better for humanity in general and what is not?
Seeing cowardice of punjabis and sindhis we can can relate where their roots are.
@@TheSonOfSoil-Indus 😂, And I'm sure you don't even know the definition of Culture and Civilization,
Cuz you mixed everything,.
Actually you are saying that we should stick to our roots even knowing that they were severly wrong misguided in some fields
And actually this is narcissim that you can't digest that a civilization can be better than our own civilization
Discussion between two great personalities.God bless both of you.Pakistanis are in mejority the most indisciplined people in the world.
Asa he comment ksi indian channel py kr k Dekho bhai, phr dekhna Amma behn py ajaengy indians😂
@@farhankhalilappan2496 ha bhai mai manta hu meri country mai boht se andbhakt bnn gya h jinko lagta h vo sabse superior h isliya vo Pakistani or ek community ko boht hate karte h or rhi baat discipline ki to vo jyada sar indians msu bhi nhi h ! Love from india ❤
g anay Jaiswal bhai dono countries k log ek Jese he hn, hzaro sal ek sath Jo rahy hn
farhankhalilappan2496 I'm Pakistani 🇵🇰 but loog wohi hain jo convert howay islam may
@@StayFocused-m4wnot convert, revert
Alhamdulillah I'm a Muslim ✋🤍
Be humble. God doesn't like pride.
@@TabraizBajkani Saying Alhamdulillah is a form of humbleness
Tum jaison ki hi jarurat hai israel aur america ko 😜😜😜
@muhammadsajjad1206 I am not talking about Alhamdulilah but I am muslim part. Shouldwe call ourselfs muslim when we do sins everyday? Sahabas use to cry alot even when they were better than us but weren't sure that God is pleased with them.
Great podcast Faisal bhai. The guest had a pelothra of knowledge.
I’m highly impressed with Haider Sahab just 20 minutes into this video.
i know him personally, Dont get so impressed , you will vomit when you know what i know !
Please explaine what you know🎉
Love and respect from india🇮🇳
@@sabahamid-l9gwhy would you say that? I’m curious
@ people’s actions are entirely opposite of the ideas they preach. He did things for money which were disgusting !
Healthy discussion Sir , thought Provoking 🌷🖤
I've read his seminal book تہذیبی نرگسیت this year
Pakistan needs people like mobarak haider sahab to lead Pakistan and have the ability to take us forward.
نرگس کا پھول اس طرح سے ڈیزائن ہوتا ہے کہ وہ اپنی جانب جھکا ہوا ہوتا ہے اور اس کے درمیان میں آنکھ جیسا نشان بنا ہوتا ہے اس لیے جو شخص اپنی ذات کے حصار میں کھو جائے اپنے آپ سے عشق ہو جائے اسے نرگسیت کہتے ہیں ۔ ایک شعر ہے کہ
اگر فردوس بر روئے زمیں است
ہمیں است و ہمیں است و ہمیں است
He is genuinely concerned about the narcissistic behavior of Muslims but at the same time he is targeting the family system(Values of Pakistani families) living abroad by saying that they are hostile type of neighbors or don't allow their daughters to live freely. Why would they change their values. Just to tell them that we are like you? As long as Muslims living abroad don't have problems inside their families especially with their children, there is no need to lecture them about changing their style of living/values according to the majority of the people living around them. I've seen Muslims are growing here in US in every field with keeping their values.
What family system?, meaning women have to be housewife and do all the chores and not earn money while Man enjoys the freedoms of living in western society..🤣🤣
Jewish called themselves chosen people, America called itself Great America, Britain called itself Great Britain, German, Russia proud their History , every nation has their hero and they proudly accept that. But if we Muslim proud of our ancestors and say Alhamdulillah then this is the problem for "Your Guest". Muslims should be involved in modern technology and science.
مبارک حیدر شاندار لکھاری ہیں البتہ انہیں گفتگو پر کمال حاصل نہیں ہے
bhai zaruri nhi k bahtreen poet apni poetry ki bahtreen dhun bhi banaley aur fir bahtreen gaa bhi ley .
جی بالکل ! ایسا ہی محسوس ہوا ہے۔
پاکستان کے لوگوں کے بار ے میں جو تجزیہ کیا ہے وہ سمجھ آ رہا ہے لیکن جو مبارک حیدر صاحب مختلف سسٹم کی اور امریکہ کی کا تجزیہ کر رہاہے وہ سمجھ سے بالا تر ہے ، خاص کر جو ٹرمپ کے بارے میں کہ رہاہے۔
Ye Noon Leagui hai
Bonggiaan maar raha hai
Trump ka Khud Saakhta Tarjumaan bna phirta hai
Nakaam Communist
@@gulzarsadiq855
Ye Shokha Naamnehaad Daanishwr Khud Saakhta Tarjumaan bna phirta hai Trump ka
Doctor sahab bilkul Sach bol rahe hain Salamat Rahe aap
Fact findings
Healthy discussion, benefits of understanding is depends on the viewers how they observed personally.❤
بہت اچھا انٹرویو تھا
بہترین
جناب مسلمانوں کو یقین اے اسلام سچ دین اے اسی لیے مسلمان ہونے پر فخر کرتا اے
But what is the truth?
انٹرویو کے شروع کی گفتگو بہترین تھی 🎉 اور باقی ۔۔ انتہائی متعصبانہ رویہ ہے مذہبی لوگوں کے خلاف ،سوال تھا پاکستان ان حالات سے کیسے نکل تو جواب ملا مذہبی لوگوں کو کنٹورل؟؟؟ مطلب باقی پوری قوم ،ادارے اپنے حصے کا ٹھیک کام کر ؟ ہر چیز میں بہتری کی گنجائش ہوتی ہے مذہبی جماعتوں اور لیڈرذ کو ایک سمعت دینی چاہیے یہ ریاست کی ذمہ داری ہے۔
pakistan ka division bhi toa ek acha option hoa sakta hai .
its good forevery one
مزہبی جماعتیں کینسر ہیں، شام عراق ایران کا حال سامنے
@@siddharthkalantri5076 pakistan 🇵🇰 ka division kis kis say ????? Zara samjha o gey ????
@@siddharthkalantri5076 25 crore Karachi say laikar china Kai border tak rehtay hai Sindh Punjab KPK Balochistan azaad kashmir Giglit baltistan tak rehnay walay pakistani 🇵🇰 hai aur region province ethnicity wise diversified hai to sab ko unity Mai rehna Mai hi faida hai division waha hota hay jaha aik particular rehnay walay logo ki majority ho
@@siddharthkalantri5076 pakistan 🇵🇰 Mai 80 Saal say koi bhi ethnicity Wala insaan Kahi bhi migrate karsakta hay aur waha Zameen khareed sakta hay waha ki ownership waha ka native bansakta hay lindustani 🐖🇮🇳 laws nahi hai pakistan 🇵🇰 Mai kai koi aik state ka insaan dosray state muntakeel nahi hosakta Sindh province Mai 1947 Mai Urdu speaking logo ki settlement howi aur Baad Mai pashtuns ki bhi jissay Sindh ki population 40 percent non Sindhis ki hogi aur Balochistan Mai bhi majority 55 percent pashtuns population hay 45 percent baloch barohi population hai Baloch brohi population Sindh aur south Punjab Mai migrate howi wi hai 70 ethnicities languages hai pakistan 🇵🇰 Mai Jo different different regions Mai rehti hai provinces sirf 4 hai aur pakistan 🇵🇰 Mai languages ethnicities ki base par province (states) bhi nahi bantay kuo Kai ye hamari ideology Kai against hai
Very thought provoking. 30 mins into the video and you already have my thumbs up 👍🏻
Just become scientific and secular-minded, and you will have a great future. It is that simple.
its not that simple and straight
How please explain? secularism means give rights to all religion communities living in the same society And that What Islam says is Islam you can't live with African Christians or Hindu's or any other religion no it didn't say this Scientific means to solve the problem with logic is Islam says that you can't use logic no it's incorrect so How we became more secular and Scientific?
Bhai spotify pe bhi ker dain uskay tools kaafi achay hain for podcasts
Amazing truth about Muslims
اچھی اور فکری سوچ پر بات کی ہے
Din ke sath sath duniya ki Jindagi per bhi Gaurav Fikar karna chahie musalmanon ko
مبارک حیدر صاحب خوش رہیں بہت اچھی وضاحت ہماری مجبوری ہے کہ ہم ہر بات خدا اؤر رسول سے منصوب کرتے ہیں لیکن جہاں ہم زمینی حقائق کو نظر انداز کرتے ہیں ہمارا نارسزم ہمارے دلوں میں الجھاؤ پیدا کرتا ہے اگر ہم غلطیاں کر کے صرف عقیدے کے طور پر توبہ کرنے تک خود کو محدود رکھیں اور عملی اصلاح نہ کریں تو زہن نآرسزم کو فرار کا رستہ بنا دیتا ہے
Modernized aur westernized main difference ha sir modernized hona achhi cheez lekin westernized hona slavery ka symbol ha Saudi Arabia iss waqt jo kaam Kar raha ha uss ka zyada connection westernization se ha na ke modernization se, Saudi ki policy main west ke personal aur family way of life ko apne personal aur family way of life par fooqiat dena ha na ke west ke political aur technological way ko ikhtiar karna jis main freedom of speech democracy aur science aur technology ke kaam shamil hain casino clubs aur baday hotels aur building se sirf ayashi ke liye aane wale tourist se paisa hasil ho sakta iss se awam aur mulk strong ni ho sakta aap ka economical aur strategically control tou unhi ka ho ga jin countries ne science technology aur political way main Kam kya ha
Bahut hi shandar podcast Faisalbhai... Haider sahab ne ek ek bat sach kahi he... Isko pakistan ke logo ko samajne ki jarurat hai..
پاکستان میں رہ کر لبرلازم کی دعوت دینا درست ہے لیکن مغرب میں میں رہ کر اسلاام کی دعوت غلط ہے! ایسا کیوں؟
Q ki aap islam ya madrhse ki talim loge tu aap chnda mangne wale bnoge or duniya ya sainc ki talim loge tu tarqi kroge mehnat kroge or logo ki bhali kronge 😊😊
@@zahidansari6059think 🤔🧐
Tujhe kon liberalism ki dawat de rha he??? Pakistan 🇵🇰 me kon liberal education deta he? Pakistan me tumhe kisi Christian ne dawat di ya kisi Hindu ne?
Dawat dena allow he likin doosron ko ghatia smjhna kia he?
"الحمدللہ میں مسلمان ھوں" نرگسیت نہیں ایمان کا حصہ ھے۔ لبرل ازم ایمان اور اسلام کو ترک کرنے کی ترغیب ھے۔ اسلام سائنسی تحقیق کی حوصلہ افزائی کرتا ھے۔ مسلمانوں میں تقلید اور نرگسیت بہر حال موجود ھے جو دماغوں کو بند کئے ھوئے ھے۔
It is the best podcast i ever watch.. the only podcast which i watched 4-5 times
ان کی کتابیں ' تہذیبی نرگسیت ' اور ' مبالغے مغالطے ' پڑھنے کے میرے سوچنے کا نظریہ تبدیل ہو گیا ہے. یہی کتابیں تھیں جنہوں نے مجھے نئی سوچ دی. یقیناً یہ کتابیں ان کی عظیم کاوش ہے. جن کو سراہا جانا چاہئے...
. عمدہ ڈسکشن .❤
Where fo u get that book ?
@AnayJaiswal-bm1md برادر! میرے پاس ایک پی ڈی ایف میں تھی. اور ایک دوست سے لی تھی
Tysm ✨
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فیصل صاحب آپ کو کاؤنٹر کرنا تھا کئی باتوں پر کوئی مسلمان سائنس کو غلط نہیں کہتا مگر حضور سائنس پر ایمان تو سائنس دان خود نہیں لاتے ان میں لاکھوں اختلافات ہیں ۔ اس میں بہت ساری بونگیاں ہیں ۔
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Yes I agree with u
Bhai 4 din laga puri video dekh ne mai lakin fir bhi dil nhi bhara fir se dekhna parega❤
Mashallah sir
Mashallah excellent conversation, after a long time a very intellectual discussion I’ve listened.
All religions are man made, however Islamic philosophy is narrow, limited, rigid, and unfit for this world. Following the unchanging philosophy in the changing world is foolish and stupid. Let's adopt global identity and promote humanity. Thank you
RUclips university sy para ha apny?😂
Now they are for you. They will track you and create two out on one you.
I salute the knowledge of this enlightened Pakistani in USA. Take care of his security in Pakistan if he goes there.
"Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiq were like agents of the British, and this person (referring to someone) is a 'free Muslim' (i.e., a nominal or superficial Muslim), not a fundamental (true) Muslim. How, then, will such a person promote Islam in the world?"
Why you have to spread Islam rather than peace, knowledge and prosperity?
@deepsareen1 western and America spreading peace or war What you say about them
@deepsareen1 western and America spreading peace or war What you say about them
These types of people take funds from western and for nationality.
@@MuhammadRafiq-pu6xq They are doing both things and as per their interests.
For instance US helped Muslims in Bosnia but started un-necessary regime change in Iraq (which in fact did not serve any interest).
West is not very cohesive (diferent countries behave differently) usually not doing much on its own.
Both of them do provide asylum, money and even political support to many oppressed as long as it is not harmful to their own interests.
What do you think Islam or Muslim countries are doing ?
What an knowledgeable person, so happy to see a Pakistani intellectual of this level 👏👏👏
30% کا مطلب ہے کہ پاکستان میں ہر تیسرا بندہ بھیک مانگتا ہے۔ بابا اس عمر سٹیا گیے😅😅
نہیں کچھ بھیک نہیں مانگتے بھیک مانگنا اچھی بات نہیں وہ اس کی جگہ فراڈ کا راستہ اپناتے ہیں
آپکے علمی لیول سے اوپر کی بحث ہے بھائی
75 سال سے جو ظلم بنگالیوں بلوچوں پٹھانوں کراچی میں ہوا اس کا ذمہ دار خالصتا کون ہے سب کو پتہ ہے
لیکن یہ بندہ مجال ہے کسی جنرل کو چھوٹی سی نصیحت بھی کر دے
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Interesting interview. Professionally done. Commendable job by the Host and his team for all they put behind this episode. Really worth listening!! Thanks.
فیصل صاحب آپ کو کاؤنٹر کرنا تھا کئی باتوں پر کوئی مسلمان سائنس کو غلط نہیں کہتا مگر حضور سائنس پر ایمان تو سائنس دان خود نہیں لاتے ان میں لاکھوں اختلافات ہیں ۔ اس میں بہت ساری بونگیاں ہیں ۔
science m Jis b cheez m ikhtilaaf hota h usay experiments or data analysis k through solve kiya jata h
Great conversation
A lot hidden truth
Pain for Pakistan
Salut to Mr Mobarak Haider
میں ان کی بہت سی باتیں سے اتفاق نہیں کرتا
کیا تعلیم ہے تمھاری؟
خاص طور پہ موجودہ صورتحال پہ یہ ڈرامے بازی لگ رہی ہے
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Not logical at all about current situation in Pakistan
Koi faraq nahi parta tery itfaq say😅
Koi faraq nahi parta tery itfaq say😅
Ok. Right. Explore more contents of both sides, Religious and also secularism. You will get point.
What a podcast ...❤Made my day
25:20 جو انہوں نے کہا کہ کرسچن کہہ سکتا کہ ہمارا مذہب سائنس اور دوستی کا ہے مسلمان نئی کہہ سکتا تو فصیل بھائی کلئر کریں ہمارا دین اسلام کی اصلیت محبت خلوص انصاف ہے بس ہم تھوڑا بھٹک چکے اس کا یہ مطلب نئی کہ اب ہم ٹھیک اور غلط کو مکس کر دیں
asa bhi toa ho sakta hai ki islam saach mea ek gandagie ka nam hoa . jisasaafie ki jarurat hoa
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Lol, you are funny 😂 yeah right, islam means peace 😂😂😂
@@sasif89
How?
@@sasif89 maybe u 2 funny man no maind no tinshin 😎👍
Loved this is podcast
May Allah Bless we Pakistanis with intellectuals like faisal and muzzamil shah
سو فیصد متفق ہوں بہت شاندار گفتگو
Thanks for bringing in speakers with alternative views 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
فیصل بھائ ۔ کیسے کیسے چول بلا لیتے ہیں ۔ میرا نہیں خیال کہ یہ ان کو دوبارہ بلائیں گے
Sahi baat hai na koi intellectual na koi Kam ki bat bas only negativity
Negativity aap ka comment hai sir
@@adnanaslam8715 Dekho Bhai main na pora podcast Sona hai theek hai
Pehli bat tu yai muyaziz admi Pakistan ki current situation ko b nhi janta
Dosra Bhai sahab agar bande na koi positive guide krni ho tu os ka bhi aik tareeqa hota hai. Os ka lia AP ki sooch Badi or apna against bat Sunna ka hosla hona chahia
Iqbal na yai b tu kha hai
تھے تو آبا وہ تھارے ہی مگر تم کیا ہو
ہاتھ پر ہاتھ دھرے منتظرِ فردا ہو
جن کو آتا نہیں دنیا میں کوئی فن تم ہو
نہیں جس قوم کو پرواز نشیمن تم ہو
Yar aik bat Suno yai American ki 2numbri asani SE nzar nhi ati is ka lia deep analysis ki zroorat hai Bhai sahab
Baqi alhamdullillah hum Muslim hai or kamzoor b hain
Dr afia Siddiqui jail main hai , Dr. A.Q Khan ka Hal Tum na dakhai
Brother is dunya ko smajna buhat mushkil hai
Baki shoodo hmain Kisi ko satisfy krna ki koi zroorat nahi hai
یہ بندہ فوجیوں کا ٹاؤٹ لگ رہا ہے
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اخری حصے میں بہت زیادہ اوٹ پٹانگ بولتا رہا ہے۔
Well said...
Very bright scholar ❤
بہت عمدہ اور پرمغز گفتگو❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Dr. Mobarak Haider | a great intellectual. I agree 👍 💯 with most of his opinions. He is legend who travelled most of world, & now giving his observations.
Pls listen to him.
جناب انسان حد سے زیادہ آزادی چاہتا ہے خالق مالک انسانوں کو ہدایت دے
سر انسان کو الزام نہ دیں ۔ پھر انسان ہی ہے جو ضابطہ بناتا ہے ۔ یہ انسان کا نیچر ہے ۔کوئی اور مرئی چیز نہیں یا کوئی ایسا نہیں جسکی انسان کو ضرورت ہو اخلاق کے لئے۔
Very well sir bhut khuch sikhnay ko mila ❤❤
What sort of individual would take umbrage with Muslims uttering the phrase "Alhamdulillah, I am a Muslim"? Allow me to enlighten you, Mr. Pathological Narcissist. As a European female who has reverted to Islam from a Christian or atheist background, I must say, "Alhamdulillah" indeed. Enough of the vitriol emanating from this channel.
Having watched several videos from this channel, I, unlike the apparently illiterate and uneducated viewers, have identified numerous glaring errors in the logic presented. Most of the 'facts' and 'figures' cited are either incorrect, outdated, or half-truths. This intellectual dishonesty has been a pathological trait of the host's personality, but today he has surpassed even his own dubious standards, making it high time to unsubscribe.
Hahaha...go ahead. Make my day by unsubscring. You will not be missed.
Sir, Muslims proudly says that science is our pride. Don't you remember Muslim scientific descoveries and inventions, the golden era of science and tech?
Asslamo Alaikum Dear Ustad e Mohattram Sain Faisal Bhai
Faisal Bhai please ek baar curiosity podcast me Syed muzzamil shah ko bulaaiye aur philosophy pe baat kijiye❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Q k me apa dono ka buhut bara fan hoon aur aap ko ek Saath dekhna Chahta hooon❤❤
What a thought-provoking podcast, I might not agree with everything they have to say, but still a great conversation.
What about hereafter??? All you talk about is dunya well we do have to live in dunya but oir destiny isn’t dunya its Akhrirat ..
Both are hardliner liberals
Good point
This is a very enlightening discussion.
Last hope TLP
😅
Tlp to pro brealvi jamat ha baki muslim dinya ka kya bny ga
@Rashidislamicstudio.09 Only Muslim
دہشتگرد 😊
😂
ماشاءاللہ keep it up ❤️ 🇦🇪
Insightful discussion, any one can oppose it or agree with it.....
میں پنجابی ہوں ۔ پلیز سندھی ۔ بلوچی ۔ پٹھان جو بھی ہیں اپنے کلچر سے روٹ سے جڑیں۔❤
Mai kachare me hu mai chahta hu sabhi gutter me ghuse rahe ye achha vichar hai😅😅😅😅😅😅
Very wonderful talk. Very interesting. Very informative
Baqi Podcast bht acha tha ,superb..
What grade on podcast?
Would need like people Mr. Mubarik .
Thank you, Faisal and Mubarik🎉👏🏻
A must watch podcast but I am right now preparing for mdcat ❤❤❤
Kb hai
Good Luck 😊
@@ana3942 yaar 2025 mein
I am a Baloch American from Balochistan. I like this like discussion
Exactly, my point of view
Deen bhi Zindagi lazmi he or apni Muslim umma k liye science k zariye tarki karna bhi lazim he ye elam se hogi islye apne bacho ko parhao take wo kuch kar saken
Very good podcast from history and future point of view.
کوئی نکما بندہ ہی اپکے دو دو گھنٹے کا پروگرام دیکھ سکتا ہے
Kya bat hy wonderful podcast impressive talk
Really good. I took time to go into this.
1:59:12 “NO one in Pakistan wants to work, including the PM”………
I fully agree and to me the ROOT CAUSE of our problem is, BEGGAR mentality is clearly visible ALL over the society, from families to the government.
Great Mobarak sahab
Masha Allah