I just love the clips where he struggles to deal damage with the weapon he's talking about for a good minute or so before switching to a different weapon and doing the same job in a fraction of a second.
Funny how except from the eridian mega cannon, in the gameplay footage you actually shred everything with those ''bad weapons'' yet in bl2 with half descent weapons you are barely killing anything...thats why i always loved bl1 it was so much fun and u never ever actually got overly crappy loot everything was usefull!
I really hope Borderlands 3 returns to a loot system more similar to the first one. Really miss seeing completely nonsensical weapons being spawned. The ones in Borderlands 2 were random but we still pretty much knew what we would get.
Matthew Lemmers Totally agree I really didn't like BL2 because of it I just hated it I just played BL2 again in a big marathon and in a whole playthrough I only got one legendary!
@@nathanpierce2541 if you can believe, I didn't find any orange weapons at all until I killed destroyer in playthrough 1. I was level 34 brick and I found 3 orange guns including baha shotgun in those 7 red chests that you get for killing destroyer. I think that was really bad luck
After seeing the evolution of borderlands 2, I decided not to play borderlands 3. The entire game evolved Into a game too far from the original. I honestly loved the original, bl2 was just close enough for me to play and enjoy it, the dlcs and character development, including tiny tina pretty much is a new game and was too silly compared to bl1
Can someone explain what are the requirements for a legendary is it every weapon with red text or does it need both a orange card and a red text, nothing I’ve looked up helps they just vaguely says it can have red text and orange card but it doesn’t say whether red text only or orange card only.
As for the Butcher: two of the four classes in BL 1 have shotgun/overall ammo regeneration, which completely negates the only Butcher’s problem being high ammo consumption.
same could be said for redemption and lets face it there is not one completely useless legendary in this game even the bugged ones were actually usable.
Plus, you can just use a Defender to regen ammo for all shotguns. Unless you're doing an allegiance run, that is. The Butcher still sucks compared to a Death or a Brute, and they aren't even Legendary or Unique.
The legendaries in BL2 are more about being unique then good stats, the worst weapons in BL1 are just as boring as the best. When a weapon has guaranteed stats it's hard to be bad, but in BL2 you get weapons that are wonky to get their dps going, but you definitely can. Makes for dynamic gameplay my dude, you can still use most garbage tier legendaries in BL2 if you build for them (except for shields and stuff). Also causes some weapons to be completely nutty in BL2.
Crux, Plague (for lance), striker, Bulldog, Hammer are all better. Although he mentions ammo would be a huge downfall, Roland can mitigate that with his regen traits. Butcher is probably not something that should be considered unusable or bad. There's just better choices.
The redemption's ammo consumption problem can be nearly eliminated with the ability to regen ammo like Roland's Support Gunner class mod and Brick's Wide Load skill.
Agreed, but the Surkov I have on Mordecai has a 91.7 accuracy. I was saying that it's good weapon at short to mid range, not typical sniper rifle ranges. Now, the Elephant gun, _that_ can be used at standard sniper ranges, just takes a steady hand.
@@scribejackhammar No-scope "sniper" rifles should be called "safari rifles" and should be a regular thing in all future Borderlands games. Do you also like the Buffalo in BL2? They're totally the sort of thing Hammerlock would use.
pretty much any purple stinger has equal damage and fire rate compared to the wildcat haha. It doesn't make sense to have such an inaccurate smg when there's anarchies around for close quarters encounters
I completely agree, but I would also say the Gasher is pretty good too. Surkov is good if you don't *completely* suck at aiming and you enjoy snipers like I personally do. A very nice new flavor in the sniper genre of weaponry. Wildcat is good if you constantly use phase walk with lilith to get up close and personal. The red flavor text indicates that you are supposed to use it up close. Friendly Fire isn't meant for moderate range as Puma said, I think it has a smiley face pattern of firing because you're supposed to get super up close with like Brick or something and stamp the bullets into the enemy's annoying little face. Gasher does have bad accuracy and recoil, but if you use it like the wildcat, it's perfectly fine. So basically, yes, I do completely agree.
I don't think he does. I was about to flame him if he put weapons such as the Raven, Anaconda or the Bulldog on this list. Tho I don't think he has played BL1 enough to even try to judge which weapons are good and bad. Since he is one of those plebs who ignored the first game and started with the second and hasn't yet to realize that more than a hand full of weapons in BL1 are viable with some builds and not with others.
Why did he not put the rebel or gemini on this list? They're such boring and bad guns, way worse then all of these. The friendly fire is pretty damn solid too, can't believe he put it as the worst.
I think the zurkov is actually good, considering that ammo regen is a thing in bl1 the butcher is pretty viable and the friendly fire might be worse than other legendary shotguns, but the worst? I don't think it's that bad
@@lolmcswagger7247 How is a pump action sniper anywhere near a fully automatic sniper that shoots 3 bullets per pop? Fastest fire rate is 1.7 which is barely (or not even?) semi-auto.
I feel like the main thing is he runs most of his weapon testing on Lilith, while a lot of the weapons in the game Excell on certain characters due to skills and such
How to effective use these 10 weapons in borderlands 1: shotguns- use roland(Excluding hydra) rockets- use brick or Roland(Ammo regenerative) smg- use ranger mordecai( insanely high accuracy) remaining weapons- avoid them.
The thing about borderlands 1 is that guns that are truly excepcional usually last for a while, remenber with my first playthrough with Mordecai and I got meself an Ogre, and it carried me pretty much through Pussy the Destroyer till halfway through the knoxx DLC in my second playthrough, just hope that if this game ever gets a remaster of sorts that they add something to the likes of UVHM and allow us to replay the whole story at max level.
Puma's format: 1. So "game name" has a lot of "opposite of video title", .... BUT..... 2. without further a due..."video title" 3. occasionally, phrases like "lets go" or "lets get started" before countdown begins 4. the once in a blue moon appearance of "BOAT LOAD OF A$$!"
ehem... just look at the words in ALL CAPS and you'll figure it out. " So BORDERLANDS 1 (game name) actually has a lot of PRETTY AWESOME LEGENDARIES (the title is WORST LEGENDARIES). blah...blah...blah.... WORST LEGENDARIES IN BORDERLANDS 1 (title) , so without further a due..." this comment looks unintentionally angry, doesnt it?
The Never Vincible I dont like them. I LOVE them! I've been a sub for 2 years now. This was just a joke. If you didn't like it, the dislike button exists.
It's not Lv.17. It's Lv.22. It only appears to be 17 when you have it equipped due to a programming oversight that has something to do with weapon proficiencies. To see a weapon's true level, you have to look at it from your inventory. The Savior is made by Tediore and Tediore SMGs occur on the following level tiers: 13, 22, 31, 40. The manufacturer level tier system is rescinded at Lv.46 or 47. Tediore SMGs occur early on, but I forget if they start at Lv.1, 2, or 4. The Bone Shredder is Lv.3 on playthru-1. Bone-Head is Lv.10 on playthru-1 and Lv.37 on playthru-2 and those are both levels for Torgue, so why not make the Bone Shredder a Torgue weapon so it can be Lv.10 on playthru-1 and Lv.37 on playthru-2? *Note:* I know this is a year after the fact, but if your Brick is still Lv.46, then try to get a Lv.40+ Savior. You can use it to regen ammo for all of your SMGs.
@@MrDanielWP If I'm playing Brick, I typically use a mix of skills across all categories and I often use the overlooked Bombardier class mod with rocket regen. Aside from regenninig rockets, it also buffs skills that make explody weapons explodier. I'll typically use a combination of different rockets launchers (acid, fire, and explody, typically two equipped at a time) along with an explody revolver, an explody sniper rifle, and a spiked shotgun. The overall best shotgun, in my opinion, is the S&S Spiked Death. The Spiked Brute is also great.
The Troll's health regen is just way too slow to be worth even equipping, especially when almost every other form of health regen is better. The Surkov is much better than the Cyclops and Troll. With a x1 or x1.5, it's a really good close to mid-range weapon for Sniper builds. I'd say the ammo consumption on the Butcher is worth the burst damage, but the usefulness of one is very much dependent on how good its reload speed is. Both the Hydra and the Friendly Fire can spawn with Carnage barrels (and the Boomstick can spawn with a Friendly Fire acc), gaining all the benefits without the downside of fixed pattern. I'd also say that, with good enough parts, the Friendly Fire's damage/tech bonus is worth the fixed pattern, and not deserving of being the #1 worst legendary. I'd probably give the #1 worst legendary to the Reaper for being one of the rarest weapons in the game but having a bugged special effect. That or the Troll. The Troll just sucks.
The reaper still gives health only the dmg increase is bugged and the fire rate is above average so it gives the dps of an exceptional machine pistol it isnt worthy of its rarity but its not for the trash can.
Based on what you had said I believed the Gasher was a bad legendary... until I used it myself. I absolutely love it, I agree it’s pretty lackluster in a long range fight but mid to close it is a GOD
The redemption is really good on brick and roland if you have a com that gives ammo regen and roland and brick can give a massive mag increase which makes it quite potent
I actually came across the Sercov multiple times while farming for a Bone Savior, and even in the weapon shop I though “huh, that doesn’t seem very good,” glad to know it wasn’t a mistake to pass it up.
I keep the cyclops for slow moving targets far away. Never had the wildcat but it makes no sense...There are ones with 69 capacity dealing 400 damage and if it's about quick spray at ultra close range against unarmored enemies I take the double anarchy with way more damage. Good to see that even lilith skills can't make some smgs worth it. What I dislike the most is shotguns with almost no precision but a x4.0 scope on them which further ruins other stats. The riccochet effect that shoots the bullets in a helix seems to lead to a lot of misses imo. I had a redemption with a mag size of 5. The first shot is using 4 rockets, the second one does the same with one.^^
In my opinion the wild cat was useful to me while I was fighting general knoxx because it is big and was always on my butt the entire time. It was better to use then the hellfire considering how the wild cat was hitting a lot of criticals.
The Redemption launcher can be improved massively by putting it in Rolands hands, With my Heavy Gunner Com the magazine is doubled and by the time i have reloaded i have usually regenerated the ammo too
I agree with you for most of these, but the Surkov and Friendly Fire I don't agree with, I personally think they're amazing weapons, but it is your opinion in the video, so I can respect it :D
I'm just gonna say right now the very best non legendary gun in borderlands 1 is by far the double anarchy smg and if you don't know what that is think of the lascaux from borderlands 2 but on steroids it's pretty much a shotgun with ludicrously high fire rate
You really want to know what the absolute worst guns are in this game? Thumper SMGs. All of them. Doesn't matter if it's a Hellfire or an Anarchy, Thumper SMGs are the absolute worst guns out there. Mediocre damage with the cost of an ass fire rate. You could easily find a semi-auto repeater pistol with a faster fire rate and does more damage than a thumper SMG. And about the Wildcat and Hydra? There is nothing more infuriating than sticking an insanely inaccurate gun up your enemy's ass and STILL managing to miss.
I'd probably flip the WIldcat and Gasher, I've found the Gasher just does more damage better, but yeah, I've also found the Butcher is pretty decent as well. The Redemption can work really well on Brick when he's really specced into the Explosive tree as it answers most of it's problems
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I definitely agree with you on the Friendly Fire. Only one I've seen worth picking up had the Carnage accessory, and that's saying something XP As for the Wildcat, I guess there's a reason the red text calls it 'the ultimate _close quarters_ feline". Since the only place to use the thing is when you're right up in an enemy's face
Wow... I never know that thing about snipers on borderlands 1... so that's why sometimes I miss shots that I have 100% sure that the aim is on the head of my enemy... BUT THIS DON'T EXPLAIN WHY I MISS SOME SHOTS AND AFTER MISSED I SAW THE BULLET EXPLODING RIGHT BEHIND MY ENEMY LIKE PASSING TROUGH HIS BODY... man, that always happen to me...
this why i love the elephant gun, even though it's not that great long range. it makes that up in the mid-range, hell even in close range it's also decent.
I’ve been playing BL1 a lot lately. I’ve always liked that when you see an enemy with a weapon that top had a chance to have that weapon drop. I never understood why Gearbox didn’t keep it in the other BL games. Another thing I think Gearbox should have kept in BL2 and BL3 is hybrid weapons or the chance to at least get one. I understand it wouldn’t be the same as in BL1 but Gearbox could have made certain Hybrids and gave them extremely low chance of dropping.
Friendly fire did make it's way into a future game but is so much better, the name escapes me but the item card read: "what a booming smile" or something. This gun wrecked with Nisha in TPS
Your problem is not the fact that these weapons suck they just stuck with characters who are not specialized in those weapons ie using a sniper rifle on anyone but Mordecai is not as good were a shotgun on anyone but Roland is crap and anybody using a rocket launcher who is not Brick is an idiot. SMGS are the only exception because while Lilith is more proficient with SMGs then any other character her forte is Elemental rather than a particular type of gun. The only gun from this entire list I would never use is the eridian Mega Cannon because that model is the absolute worst weapon in the entire game
dont forget about the weapon proficiency level to, i maxed them all out and the flaws hes pointed out are pretty much none existant.. i think hes just bad with em
majik tom These are not bad guns, these are the worst LEGENDARIES. Right? Quotes like "Pretty much any legendary smg is better than Gasher" should help you understand this.
A fun countdown might be most expensive guns in borderlands 2 or something because I've noticed some random weapons are extremely expensive and aren't even all that rare
TheSecretSpartanSquad the friendly fire isn’t bad. While this is his opinion on these guns, I use most of these with great effectiveness. Including the friendly fire.
David Parks no he’s right, Puma just doesn’t like them because they are overpowered as fuck just like with the axton thing. Hes a great character but he isn’t broken so puma says he’s trash. So I recommend you try all of the weapons and characters he talks about before ruining how you play the borderlands games
On Roland and Brick, Redemption is a beast if you know how to use it. One big issue with launchers is the weird chance to do zero damage on certain surfaces. Launcher radius is also kinda bad. However,the Redemption is awesome for Roland on mag build or Brick with max reload. Wildcat, trash. Friendly fire is good with carnage barrel even though bulldog is the same thing(it says fire dmg but no fire come out) Now the Troll had alot of potential. Imagine a hybrid reaction with King Wee Wee shield. Maybe boost health by 4 times with both on top of both having regen. On Roland or Likith, wouldn't be bad 4 survivability
@@1uup10 Are you sure? Because if I assume he's using English correctly, he definitely says they're all bad. The question is, did he intend to use a new sentence or not :P
Your right about all guns but i like to say that the redeption rocket luncher are one of the best if you use bricks explode build with the right class mod. Not critisiesing (sorry im from Sweden don't know how to spell) i just like to make a point.
Clorox Bleach well if you cant hit a fucker from 20m in the head even if your crosshair is on point then something is off isnt it? Thank fuck every strong sniper i found was 96 at least
This list would be much different if you 1. do a roland build 2. farm crawmerax with any VH. Roland has both ammo regen and shotgun spread reduction. And as far as the guns with low accuracy they are the best for murdering crawmerax. Although roland is by far the supreme crawmerax slayer, especially with low accuracy shotguns
A lot of these can be good if you get lucky with parts. Which I like. I hate how special weapons in BL2 and TPS can be totally knee-capped by their effects.
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I agree on most except the gasher, it melts. You just have to be more accurate than the Double anarchy and it is my favorite smg for range when the anarchy is hard to hit from far. And the Friendly fire is extremley strong when you use it like a shotgun and less like a rifle.
I found a Hyperion gun called the crimson stinger II it was so badass. This was back in 09 I have never found it again. It had solid rof dps and accuracy was all the way top notch
I think there is nothing wrong about it, if a game has bad weapons. You don't have to use them, and they are usually very creative and funny guns. Good video though!
Personally, I would never, ever use the cyclops as a main weapon. I use it more as a backup, when I'm just hangin out a long distance away from a camp and just wanna see heads roll. Other, more powerful rifles are much better when you get close or deal with bosses.
The borderlands 1 weapon system makes the borderlands 2 weapon system look like a joke. I played the second game first and then the first one second. The difference is clear, it's like all the borderlands 2 guns are anemic with accuracy. Good vid puma.
The SnS pistol that fires two bullets that one moves left and the other moves right a gimmick that makes the gun bad. The Troll would be better if HP regen scaled with the guns level. The Butcher would be better if damage per pellet was better and had a larger magizine. The reaper isn't on here because it's stats are actually decent, the damage on the bayonet doesn't work and just reduces attack speed. The Striker would be better if it had the same damage and accuracy as its barrel 5 counter part and kept it's +30% crit bonus or had a +100% crit bonus or if the +30% bonus was multiplicative like on the Bessie.
Sees puma talking about the worst legendary guns: Oh neat. Wildcat: That was one of my first legendaries in the game, and I hated it. Butcher: I actually use that, on Roland... I see his point. Surkov: MY FIRST LEGENDARY ON THIS LIST! [Goes into ffyl] *WHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!*
This month I'm replaying Borderlands 1 using Lilith and found two Friendly Fire shotguns during my 1st and 2nd playthroughs, with slightly different attributes of course. I don't remember this gun from my previous playthroughs with other characters, but so far it has been one of the best legendary weapons that I've used in this game. Can't agree with it as #1 in this video.
I'd actually say the redemption is not that "shit" because of brick. I basically only play brick and its not the worst launcher I've seen but it definitely isn't the best for sure. I really enjoy having alot of ammo and a good mix of pure damage as well as element effects, mostly fire. brick with a double anarchy with increased mag size, a dahl or tediore shotgun that has a fire effect, a thunderous steel sniper and of course a launcher. I don't know the name but it is basically a 4x fire launcher with a low mag size that is torgue.
Mordecai as a sniper build would benefit from a good scope on a sniper rifle. Just saying. I mean, I sit back and snipe all day with sniper builds in all genres of shooting games. Farther the range the better. Basically a huge zoom would be beneficial in my opinion. I don't like Eridian weapons in BL1 at all, I just hate the recharge rate of them. Yeah no ammo but I rather waste rounds to kill enemies quickly as possible.
I have a 333 dam 21.9 fr Gasher that I love on my siren, also I have a 454x9 Friendly Fire that obliterates shit, only stronger weapon I have is a 555x7 Unforgiven, and that has a shit fire rate and no element.
I was getting legendary drops playing the remaster, had to come to this video to see if they were good or not, I have the cirkov sniper in the wildcat. Mann thats rough
i dont think cyclops is bad weapon if you dont have better one at the moment. the game has problems with headshots as i cant head shot most times even with mordecai. this weapon guarantees the head shot kill in long range ofc.
the cyclops would be great if BL1 didn't have the extremely obnoxious mechanic of heavily RNG-based shot accuracy where you can miss a mid-range headshot (despite your crosshair being on the enemy's head) because the game says so
VinylicPuma, do you only do Borderlands 1 videos with Lilith, because Lilith is your only level 69 borderlands 1 character or just because she’s your favourite Borderlands 1 character?
i killed the destroyer and saw an orange weapon i was like what the destroyer doesnt drop a legendary i run over to check it out its a wild cat i was like oh nvm i got nothing lol
I've had an anarchy Wildcat once and it had an accuracy of literally 0, which makes even most shotguns look like sniper rifles. And I pretty much dislike all legendary shotguns in BL 1, even though shotguns are my favorite kind of weapon in the game. If the shot patterns would scale with accuracy, I'd probably like a lot of them, but so many of them just spray their pattern all over the place so that only a tiny fraction of the shots actually hit anything.
10. Cyclops (Sniper) - 2 much zoom, 2 much spread 9. Troll (Repeater) - Tiny heal not worth using gun for 8. Surkov (Sniper) - Ok but there are directly better versions of it with less spread 7. Butcher (Shotgun) - Eats a lot of ammo for less damage per shot and a wild burst fire 6. Mega Cannon (Eridian) - A little more damage at the expense of a slow fire rate and a painful weapon recharge time 5. Wildcat (SMG) - Big magazine and fast reload speed for really bad accuracy making hitting anything pretty hard 4. Redemption (Launcher) - More damage for more ammo consumption, but you're doing a lot less damage per rocket ammo used than most other launchers. Also have to reload after every shot 3. Hydra (Shotgun) - Pretty frustrating, shoots in a horizontal line, making it only useful at point blank range 2. Gasher (SMG) - What good is burst fire when you have bad spread, recoil, and accuracy. At least with the Wildcat you can just spray and hope to hit something 1. Friendly Fire (Shotgun) - Shoots a big ol smiley face which _hits nothing_ I got u
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I just love the clips where he struggles to deal damage with the weapon he's talking about for a good minute or so before switching to a different weapon and doing the same job in a fraction of a second.
Lol that cyclops clip.
Funny how except from the eridian mega cannon, in the gameplay footage you actually shred everything with those ''bad weapons'' yet in bl2 with half descent weapons you are barely killing anything...thats why i always loved bl1 it was so much fun and u never ever actually got overly crappy loot everything was usefull!
I really hope Borderlands 3 returns to a loot system more similar to the first one. Really miss seeing completely nonsensical weapons being spawned. The ones in Borderlands 2 were random but we still pretty much knew what we would get.
Matthew Lemmers Totally agree I really didn't like BL2 because of it I just hated it I just played BL2 again in a big marathon and in a whole playthrough I only got one legendary!
Hehe uhm 3 years later drops?
@@nathanpierce2541 if you can believe, I didn't find any orange weapons at all until I killed destroyer in playthrough 1. I was level 34 brick and I found 3 orange guns including baha shotgun in those 7 red chests that you get for killing destroyer. I think that was really bad luck
After seeing the evolution of borderlands 2, I decided not to play borderlands 3. The entire game evolved Into a game too far from the original. I honestly loved the original, bl2 was just close enough for me to play and enjoy it, the dlcs and character development, including tiny tina pretty much is a new game and was too silly compared to bl1
Can someone explain what are the requirements for a legendary is it every weapon with red text or does it need both a orange card and a red text, nothing I’ve looked up helps they just vaguely says it can have red text and orange card but it doesn’t say whether red text only or orange card only.
As for the Butcher: two of the four classes in BL 1 have shotgun/overall ammo regeneration, which completely negates the only Butcher’s problem being high ammo consumption.
Faily Failracer It's still really, really weak. I have tried several butchers on all characters and concluded any vanilla shotgun would be better.
Mix a mag increase skill and an ammo regeneration skill with the Bulldog and you have the best shotty in da game.
same could be said for redemption and lets face it there is not one completely useless legendary in this game even the bugged ones were actually usable.
@@TheArmyofHades Any anarchy is better than Wildcat. I don't think this video was about them being useless. It's about them being bad.
Plus, you can just use a Defender to regen ammo for all shotguns. Unless you're doing an allegiance run, that is. The Butcher still sucks compared to a Death or a Brute, and they aren't even Legendary or Unique.
Am I the only one wondering how Wilhelm took down the original vault hunters?
same asf that dudes weak 😂😂
POP! Attack fr tho lol
Soul Wave look at concept art at end of pre sequal claptastic voyage dlc
Termination Protocols
Fall damage.
"No. 1, the Friendly Fire" *proceeds to shred a pack of skags with the worst weapon in BL1*
Virtually every legendary on this list are much better at killing stuff than the worst legendaries in BL2.
The legendaries in BL2 are more about being unique then good stats, the worst weapons in BL1 are just as boring as the best. When a weapon has guaranteed stats it's hard to be bad, but in BL2 you get weapons that are wonky to get their dps going, but you definitely can. Makes for dynamic gameplay my dude, you can still use most garbage tier legendaries in BL2 if you build for them (except for shields and stuff). Also causes some weapons to be completely nutty in BL2.
It's a fire weapon against flesh enemies in BL1 ofc they would all die.
Yeah every gun in this game is very usable, even if there are better alternatives.........
Except spin barrels and thumpers.
The Friendly Fire works really good with eather Roland or Brick.
When you have nothing to do on borderlands 2 legendarys so you move back to Borderlands 1 legendarys
learn to spell legendary
boderlands
when you have nothing else to do, you just post useless comments on youtube
*Legendaries, the plural of legendary.
Nice English mate
Butcher + Roland = Yessssss
In my opinion s&s crux + s&s loyalty mod or perfect heavy gunner + soilder = cheesy
Crux, Plague (for lance), striker, Bulldog, Hammer are all better. Although he mentions ammo would be a huge downfall, Roland can mitigate that with his regen traits. Butcher is probably not something that should be considered unusable or bad. There's just better choices.
The redemption's ammo consumption problem can be nearly eliminated with the ability to regen ammo like Roland's Support Gunner class mod and Brick's Wide Load skill.
By those two. Like every legendary in bl1, it is good with the right build.
The Surkov isn't a bad combat sniper rifle, think standard issue bolt actions in the beginning of WWII, if it has a lower than 2.0 weapon zoom.
Scribe Hammar Gamble-type snipers are objectively crap
Agreed, but the Surkov I have on Mordecai has a 91.7 accuracy. I was saying that it's good weapon at short to mid range, not typical sniper rifle ranges. Now, the Elephant gun, _that_ can be used at standard sniper ranges, just takes a steady hand.
@@Eugene_TEC the bessie is amazing.
@@Eugene_TEC Unless you're playing as Mordy with a Ranger build (or maybe a Sniper build).
@@scribejackhammar No-scope "sniper" rifles should be called "safari rifles" and should be a regular thing in all future Borderlands games. Do you also like the Buffalo in BL2? They're totally the sort of thing Hammerlock would use.
the cyclops was pretty much made for Mordecai as you you could do HUGE critical damage with skills
The slight spread on it hurt in long range fights sadly. I still used it a lot until I got a Bessie.
I'm wondering if anything that improves accuracy lowers the spread imo the higher the accuracy the less spread i could be wrong
The friendly fire, surkov, and wildcat are great legendaries wtf.
Wild cat is garbo everything else is good
pretty much any purple stinger has equal damage and fire rate compared to the wildcat haha. It doesn't make sense to have such an inaccurate smg when there's anarchies around for close quarters encounters
Wildcat suuuuuuuuuucks dude
I completely agree, but I would also say the Gasher is pretty good too.
Surkov is good if you don't *completely* suck at aiming and you enjoy snipers like I personally do. A very nice new flavor in the sniper genre of weaponry.
Wildcat is good if you constantly use phase walk with lilith to get up close and personal. The red flavor text indicates that you are supposed to use it up close.
Friendly Fire isn't meant for moderate range as Puma said, I think it has a smiley face pattern of firing because you're supposed to get super up close with like Brick or something and stamp the bullets into the enemy's annoying little face.
Gasher does have bad accuracy and recoil, but if you use it like the wildcat, it's perfectly fine.
So basically, yes, I do completely agree.
Surkov and Wildcat especially terrible. He tells you why they're bad. If they're not better than blue quality weapons then it's just sad...
Puma you do realise that you are only looking at one playstyle and not with the other characters.
I don't think he does. I was about to flame him if he put weapons such as the Raven, Anaconda or the Bulldog on this list. Tho I don't think he has played BL1 enough to even try to judge which weapons are good and bad. Since he is one of those plebs who ignored the first game and started with the second and hasn't yet to realize that more than a hand full of weapons in BL1 are viable with some builds and not with others.
What'd u expect from puma
@@reaver8338 So... The same with BL2 then? lol
But he did list Anaconda and Bulldog in is top 10 so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why did he not put the rebel or gemini on this list? They're such boring and bad guns, way worse then all of these. The friendly fire is pretty damn solid too, can't believe he put it as the worst.
I mean... Its opinion-based
The worst part of the troll is that it is such a rare legendary, I've been playing Bl for awhile and have only found 1
Jason Genova it's called *The Troll* for a reason
Fernando Navarrete you got a point
Theodd1sout Uncensored, 3-4 months every day for at least 2-3 hours a day
Theodd1sout Uncensored, opinion
Lucky, I always get it and it trolls me. Actually it has a fitting name
I think the zurkov is actually good, considering that ammo regen is a thing in bl1 the butcher is pretty viable and the friendly fire might be worse than other legendary shotguns, but the worst? I don't think it's that bad
Jaime Moyano The surkov is pretty much a baby Lyuda, so why does he hate it?
@@lolmcswagger7247 How is a pump action sniper anywhere near a fully automatic sniper that shoots 3 bullets per pop? Fastest fire rate is 1.7 which is barely (or not even?) semi-auto.
TsarDragon I’m saying it is an all around good gun, just like the lyuda
@@lolmcswagger7247 well it doesnt have damage potencial anywhere near as high as the lyuda tho
Yeah that is not his fault,there very little bad weapons.
The Friendly Fire, Butcher, & Surkov aren't even bad, they're great
The butcher isn't good but ok
Jimmeh Rulez all legendaries are good, it’s just some have worse effects than the others
I feel like the main thing is he runs most of his weapon testing on Lilith, while a lot of the weapons in the game Excell on certain characters due to skills and such
I played the hell out of Borderlands and never even knew there were eridian legendaries
trunktoyz lmao
They are insanely rare. Joltz, who played this game for over 2000 hours, has only gotten one
How to effective use these 10 weapons in borderlands 1: shotguns- use roland(Excluding hydra) rockets- use brick or Roland(Ammo regenerative) smg- use ranger mordecai( insanely high accuracy) remaining weapons- avoid them.
The thing about borderlands 1 is that guns that are truly excepcional usually last for a while, remenber with my first playthrough with Mordecai and I got meself an Ogre, and it carried me pretty much through Pussy the Destroyer till halfway through the knoxx DLC in my second playthrough, just hope that if this game ever gets a remaster of sorts that they add something to the likes of UVHM and allow us to replay the whole story at max level.
If you LEGIT get a mega cannon do NOT sell it bruh 💀 that’s one of the rarest weapons in the game
The Friendly Fire rocks! Why do you think it sucks?
#10 - don't use long range sniper rifles up close. Got it. 👍
IIRC, the Butcher is amazing on Roland with a Support Gunner mod. Ammo Regen + Increased Mag capacity makes for a very solid auto-shotgun.
An S&S Brute is more efficient.
Puma: horizontal projectiles sucks.
Sandhawk: *exists
Puma's format:
1. So "game name" has a lot of "opposite of video title", .... BUT.....
2. without further a due..."video title"
3. occasionally, phrases like "lets go" or "lets get started" before countdown begins
4. the once in a blue moon appearance of "BOAT LOAD OF A$$!"
ehem...
just look at the words in ALL CAPS and you'll figure it out.
" So BORDERLANDS 1 (game name) actually has a lot of PRETTY AWESOME LEGENDARIES (the title is WORST LEGENDARIES). blah...blah...blah.... WORST LEGENDARIES IN BORDERLANDS 1 (title) , so without further a due..."
this comment looks unintentionally angry, doesnt it?
FYI, if you don't like his videos you don't have to watch them. (Dumbass.)
The Never Vincible
I dont like them.
I LOVE them!
I've been a sub for 2 years now.
This was just a joke.
If you didn't like it, the dislike button exists.
"Hopefully we wont see any more horizontal bullet pattern weapons" 🅱️🅱️🅱️ sandhawk🅱️🅱️🅱️
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Just realized I have a level 17 Malevolent Savior that is still one of my most powerful weapons on my level 46 Brick.
Get him a Vladoff Hammer.
It's not Lv.17. It's Lv.22. It only appears to be 17 when you have it equipped due to a programming oversight that has something to do with weapon proficiencies. To see a weapon's true level, you have to look at it from your inventory. The Savior is made by Tediore and Tediore SMGs occur on the following level tiers: 13, 22, 31, 40. The manufacturer level tier system is rescinded at Lv.46 or 47. Tediore SMGs occur early on, but I forget if they start at Lv.1, 2, or 4. The Bone Shredder is Lv.3 on playthru-1. Bone-Head is Lv.10 on playthru-1 and Lv.37 on playthru-2 and those are both levels for Torgue, so why not make the Bone Shredder a Torgue weapon so it can be Lv.10 on playthru-1 and Lv.37 on playthru-2?
*Note:* I know this is a year after the fact, but if your Brick is still Lv.46, then try to get a Lv.40+ Savior. You can use it to regen ammo for all of your SMGs.
@@MrDanielWP Or an S&S Crux. Also any explody revolver, explody sniper rifle, and "spiked" shotgun.
@@judsongaiden9878 I would take a detonating hammer all day, but the crux works.
@@MrDanielWP If I'm playing Brick, I typically use a mix of skills across all categories and I often use the overlooked Bombardier class mod with rocket regen. Aside from regenninig rockets, it also buffs skills that make explody weapons explodier. I'll typically use a combination of different rockets launchers (acid, fire, and explody, typically two equipped at a time) along with an explody revolver, an explody sniper rifle, and a spiked shotgun. The overall best shotgun, in my opinion, is the S&S Spiked Death. The Spiked Brute is also great.
When he was talking about the Cyclops he said it was a bad gun to use up close. My question, who uses a fucking sniper rifle for close quarter combat
Everyone. That is why the god finger is shit. Because at best you are sniping from mid range
"The Gasher and Wildcat are bad"
Proceeds to annihilate everything in sight.
Aight, whatever you say sir.
As someone mentioned below, roland + butcher works due to abundance of ammo regen.
The redemption returned in bl2 as nukem
The Troll's health regen is just way too slow to be worth even equipping, especially when almost every other form of health regen is better.
The Surkov is much better than the Cyclops and Troll. With a x1 or x1.5, it's a really good close to mid-range weapon for Sniper builds.
I'd say the ammo consumption on the Butcher is worth the burst damage, but the usefulness of one is very much dependent on how good its reload speed is.
Both the Hydra and the Friendly Fire can spawn with Carnage barrels (and the Boomstick can spawn with a Friendly Fire acc), gaining all the benefits without the downside of fixed pattern. I'd also say that, with good enough parts, the Friendly Fire's damage/tech bonus is worth the fixed pattern, and not deserving of being the #1 worst legendary.
I'd probably give the #1 worst legendary to the Reaper for being one of the rarest weapons in the game but having a bugged special effect. That or the Troll. The Troll just sucks.
The reaper still gives health only the dmg increase is bugged and the fire rate is above average so it gives the dps of an exceptional machine pistol it isnt worthy of its rarity but its not for the trash can.
Based on what you had said I believed the Gasher was a bad legendary... until I used it myself. I absolutely love it, I agree it’s pretty lackluster in a long range fight but mid to close it is a GOD
The redemption is really good on brick and roland if you have a com that gives ammo regen and roland and brick can give a massive mag increase which makes it quite potent
Puma only says it's bad cos he's trying to use it on Lilith.
Farm an Undertaker in Knoxx DLC.You'll never use the Redemption again.
the redemption is really good bro
On brick brick player. On everyone else though, it is pretty s****
I actually came across the Sercov multiple times while farming for a Bone Savior, and even in the weapon shop I though “huh, that doesn’t seem very good,” glad to know it wasn’t a mistake to pass it up.
The butcher is a boss killer for Roland.
VinylicPuma: The Surkov is a lacking sniper rifle-
Also VinylicPuma: Continues to one shot enemies
The Atlas Chimera was my favorite Borderlands gun it lasted me for a very very long time.
I keep the cyclops for slow moving targets far away.
Never had the wildcat but it makes no sense...There are ones with 69 capacity dealing 400 damage and if it's about quick spray at ultra close range against unarmored enemies I take the double anarchy with way more damage. Good to see that even lilith skills can't make some smgs worth it. What I dislike the most is shotguns with almost no precision but a x4.0 scope on them which further ruins other stats. The riccochet effect that shoots the bullets in a helix seems to lead to a lot of misses imo. I had a redemption with a mag size of 5. The first shot is using 4 rockets, the second one does the same with one.^^
In my opinion the wild cat was useful to me while I was fighting general knoxx because it is big and was always on my butt the entire time. It was better to use then the hellfire considering how the wild cat was hitting a lot of criticals.
The Redemption launcher can be improved massively by putting it in Rolands hands, With my Heavy Gunner Com the magazine is doubled and by the time i have reloaded i have usually regenerated the ammo too
Friendly fire number 1 🤣 get a 2 mag one with Roland and use it like a hellwalker, it’s top tier with an aggressive play style
I agree with you for most of these, but the Surkov and Friendly Fire I don't agree with, I personally think they're amazing weapons, but it is your opinion in the video, so I can respect it :D
I'm just gonna say right now the very best non legendary gun in borderlands 1 is by far the double anarchy smg and if you don't know what that is think of the lascaux from borderlands 2 but on steroids it's pretty much a shotgun with ludicrously high fire rate
Glad you made this. I started Borderlands again, so I wasn't sure what was good. :)
I swear, if the Equalizer is on this list. (Tediore Legendary revolver)
Ik. I watched da vid.
@@HarajukuDeadgirls111 it has nothing special. It is just a tedioure pistol with ammo regen
The friendly fire with the rocket barrel is insanely powerful
The Surkov is a great backup if you can't get the penetrator, plus it's alot more powerful.
Adam Thomson Just get a generic torgue or dahl liquid sniper tbh, they fire faster and actually shoot where you want them to.
You should keep making more borderlands 1 count downs.
You really want to know what the absolute worst guns are in this game? Thumper SMGs. All of them. Doesn't matter if it's a Hellfire or an Anarchy, Thumper SMGs are the absolute worst guns out there. Mediocre damage with the cost of an ass fire rate. You could easily find a semi-auto repeater pistol with a faster fire rate and does more damage than a thumper SMG. And about the Wildcat and Hydra? There is nothing more infuriating than sticking an insanely inaccurate gun up your enemy's ass and STILL managing to miss.
The Butcher and Redemption are good on Roland becuase of his support gunner class mod, it helps you regen your ammo
I got some weird pearlescent 'Hydra Hydra' shotgun a while back, which works as a normal shotgun, but with great stats.
I'd probably flip the WIldcat and Gasher, I've found the Gasher just does more damage better, but yeah, I've also found the Butcher is pretty decent as well. The Redemption can work really well on Brick when he's really specced into the Explosive tree as it answers most of it's problems
Brick was my first thought when he brought up the redemption. I mained tank brick forever.
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I definitely agree with you on the Friendly Fire. Only one I've seen worth picking up had the Carnage accessory, and that's saying something XP
As for the Wildcat, I guess there's a reason the red text calls it 'the ultimate _close quarters_ feline". Since the only place to use the thing is when you're right up in an enemy's face
Honestly, it probably would've worked better, had it been given the explosive splash damage that Torgue weapons had post-Borderlands 2.
Wow... I never know that thing about snipers on borderlands 1... so that's why sometimes I miss shots that I have 100% sure that the aim is on the head of my enemy... BUT THIS DON'T EXPLAIN WHY I MISS SOME SHOTS AND AFTER MISSED I SAW THE BULLET EXPLODING RIGHT BEHIND MY ENEMY LIKE PASSING TROUGH HIS BODY... man, that always happen to me...
agree..
this why i love the elephant gun, even though it's not that great long range. it makes that up in the mid-range, hell even in close range it's also decent.
I think get higher accuracy versions maybe idk. Seems to be a little better
I’ve been playing BL1 a lot lately. I’ve always liked that when you see an enemy with a weapon that top had a chance to have that weapon drop. I never understood why Gearbox didn’t keep it in the other BL games. Another thing I think Gearbox should have kept in BL2 and BL3 is hybrid weapons or the chance to at least get one. I understand it wouldn’t be the same as in BL1 but Gearbox could have made certain Hybrids and gave them extremely low chance of dropping.
Friendly fire did make it's way into a future game but is so much better, the name escapes me but the item card read: "what a booming smile" or something. This gun wrecked with Nisha in TPS
Your problem is not the fact that these weapons suck they just stuck with characters who are not specialized in those weapons ie using a sniper rifle on anyone but Mordecai is not as good were a shotgun on anyone but Roland is crap and anybody using a rocket launcher who is not Brick is an idiot. SMGS are the only exception because while Lilith is more proficient with SMGs then any other character her forte is Elemental rather than a particular type of gun. The only gun from this entire list I would never use is the eridian Mega Cannon because that model is the absolute worst weapon in the entire game
Theodd1sout Uncensored stop scolding or I’ll report you
Ammo consumption... support gunner, whatever bricks class mod is with ammo regen, etc.There are plenty of work arounds *if* you use the right class.
Don't worry about it I just reported his ass😀
dont forget about the weapon proficiency level to, i maxed them all out and the flaws hes pointed out are pretty much none existant.. i think hes just bad with em
majik tom These are not bad guns, these are the worst LEGENDARIES. Right? Quotes like "Pretty much any legendary smg is better than Gasher" should help you understand this.
I got all these legendary guns.
They work fine for me. :3
Probably because you don't have the good ones.
I'm joking of course
LOL
why does he have the worst versions of these guns😂
Golden Fox Me too, every legendary in Moxxis safe.
They're fun to play with. DUH! I like collecting these guns.
It's not like I use them 24/7.
Just be glad the Bane didn't exist in Borderlands 1. XD
A fun countdown might be most expensive guns in borderlands 2 or something because I've noticed some random weapons are extremely expensive and aren't even all that rare
Oh man! Marcus is selling the Friendly Fire!
* buys it *
* watches this video *
Oh.
TheSecretSpartanSquad the friendly fire isn’t bad. While this is his opinion on these guns, I use most of these with great effectiveness. Including the friendly fire.
Hates the cyclops so much that instead of using ot to give an example, he whips out the hellfire
Most of these guns arent even bad
O K
David Parks no he’s right, Puma just doesn’t like them because they are overpowered as fuck just like with the axton thing. Hes a great character but he isn’t broken so puma says he’s trash. So I recommend you try all of the weapons and characters he talks about before ruining how you play the borderlands games
Aren’t*
puma's opinion is bad for like half this list
@@quintonfolsom9309 that explains why he doesn't play as mordecai lel
At least the Friendly Fire shotgun doesn't do what its name suggests.
wooow a video of borderlands 1 :D thats makes me happy puma
On Roland and Brick, Redemption is a beast if you know how to use it. One big issue with launchers is the weird chance to do zero damage on certain surfaces. Launcher radius is also kinda bad. However,the Redemption is awesome for Roland on mag build or Brick with max reload.
Wildcat, trash.
Friendly fire is good with carnage barrel even though bulldog is the same thing(it says fire dmg but no fire come out)
Now the Troll had alot of potential. Imagine a hybrid reaction with King Wee Wee shield. Maybe boost health by 4 times with both on top of both having regen. On Roland or Likith, wouldn't be bad 4 survivability
Puma y u no try other characters except Lilith? I've heard Mordecai is pretty fun
@TheOdd1sOut Uncensored You just said every class is bad.
RED, not BLU, Festivgineer I think you misinterpreted what he meant, when he mentioned Lilith and Roland, he meant those two were the way to go.
@@1uup10 Are you sure? Because if I assume he's using English correctly, he definitely says they're all bad. The question is, did he intend to use a new sentence or not :P
TsarDragon he misused a comma. He meant Roland and Lilith were the best.
Your right about all guns but i like to say that the redeption rocket luncher are one of the best if you use bricks explode build with the right class mod. Not critisiesing (sorry im from Sweden don't know how to spell) i just like to make a point.
If you play BL1 with sniperrilfes.
EVERY SNIPERRILFE BELOW 95 ACCUARCY IS FOR THE TRASHCAN
Psychoangel how bad are u then?
Clorox Bleach well if you cant hit a fucker from 20m in the head even if your crosshair is on point then something is off isnt it? Thank fuck every strong sniper i found was 96 at least
This list would be much different if you 1. do a roland build 2. farm crawmerax with any VH. Roland has both ammo regen and shotgun spread reduction. And as far as the guns with low accuracy they are the best for murdering crawmerax. Although roland is by far the supreme crawmerax slayer, especially with low accuracy shotguns
A lot of these can be good if you get lucky with parts. Which I like. I hate how special weapons in BL2 and TPS can be totally knee-capped by their effects.
With my Modicai sniper build I shit on Knoxx with the surkov
Yey! I have asked for more bl1 videos for sooooo long!!!!!
was watching your vids earley today love em
Theodd1sout Uncensored go find a life instead of hating on people who do have one
Hello, im a Brazilian and i really like your videos and here to ask you to post more videos about borderlands 1 and create a playlist with all your borderlands 1 videos, thanyou for you attention and sorry about the write errors :v
*(GOD I LOVE THE RELOAD ANIMATIONS IN THIS GOD FORSAKEN AWESOME GAME!!!)*
For all you "friendly fire defenders: 12:20 he fired at a scag centered in his reticle and nothing hit the scag.
Pls beat hyperious with a wonderlust.
I agree on most except the gasher, it melts. You just have to be more accurate than the Double anarchy and it is my favorite smg for range when the anarchy is hard to hit from far.
And the Friendly fire is extremley strong when you use it like a shotgun and less like a rifle.
2 mag friendly fire + commando class mod with +4 scattershot is pretty much equivalent to a hellwalker on bl3
I found a Hyperion gun called the crimson stinger II it was so badass. This was back in 09 I have never found it again. It had solid rof dps and accuracy was all the way top notch
I think there is nothing wrong about it, if a game has bad weapons. You don't have to use them, and they are usually very creative and funny guns.
Good video though!
Personally, I would never, ever use the cyclops as a main weapon. I use it more as a backup, when I'm just hangin out a long distance away from a camp and just wanna see heads roll. Other, more powerful rifles are much better when you get close or deal with bosses.
The borderlands 1 weapon system makes the borderlands 2 weapon system look like a joke. I played the second game first and then the first one second. The difference is clear, it's like all the borderlands 2 guns are anemic with accuracy. Good vid puma.
The SnS pistol that fires two bullets that one moves left and the other moves right a gimmick that makes the gun bad. The Troll would be better if HP regen scaled with the guns level. The Butcher would be better if damage per pellet was better and had a larger magizine. The reaper isn't on here because it's stats are actually decent, the damage on the bayonet doesn't work and just reduces attack speed. The Striker would be better if it had the same damage and accuracy as its barrel 5 counter part and kept it's +30% crit bonus or had a +100% crit bonus or if the +30% bonus was multiplicative like on the Bessie.
...erm...since he didn’t (ahem)
“the friendly fire really is a boatload of AYSS!”
Sees puma talking about the worst legendary guns: Oh neat.
Wildcat: That was one of my first legendaries in the game, and I hated it.
Butcher: I actually use that, on Roland... I see his point.
Surkov: MY FIRST LEGENDARY ON THIS LIST! [Goes into ffyl] *WHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!*
This month I'm replaying Borderlands 1 using Lilith and found two Friendly Fire shotguns during my 1st and 2nd playthroughs, with slightly different attributes of course.
I don't remember this gun from my previous playthroughs with other characters, but so far it has been one of the best legendary weapons that I've used in this game. Can't agree with it as #1 in this video.
I'd actually say the redemption is not that "shit" because of brick. I basically only play brick and its not the worst launcher I've seen but it definitely isn't the best for sure. I really enjoy having alot of ammo and a good mix of pure damage as well as element effects, mostly fire. brick with a double anarchy with increased mag size, a dahl or tediore shotgun that has a fire effect, a thunderous steel sniper and of course a launcher. I don't know the name but it is basically a 4x fire launcher with a low mag size that is torgue.
The Redemption returned in the form of the Nukem
Just got a Troll while you were talking about it
Mordecai as a sniper build would benefit from a good scope on a sniper rifle. Just saying. I mean, I sit back and snipe all day with sniper builds in all genres of shooting games. Farther the range the better. Basically a huge zoom would be beneficial in my opinion. I don't like Eridian weapons in BL1 at all, I just hate the recharge rate of them. Yeah no ammo but I rather waste rounds to kill enemies quickly as possible.
I have a 333 dam 21.9 fr Gasher that I love on my siren, also I have a 454x9 Friendly Fire that obliterates shit, only stronger weapon I have is a 555x7 Unforgiven, and that has a shit fire rate and no element.
Congratulations, you literally have a perfect Unforgiven!
I was getting legendary drops playing the remaster, had to come to this video to see if they were good or not, I have the cirkov sniper in the wildcat. Mann thats rough
i dont think cyclops is bad weapon if you dont have better one at the moment. the game has problems with headshots as i cant head shot most times even with mordecai. this weapon guarantees the head shot kill in long range ofc.
the cyclops would be great if BL1 didn't have the extremely obnoxious mechanic of heavily RNG-based shot accuracy where you can miss a mid-range headshot (despite your crosshair being on the enemy's head) because the game says so
it’s a godsend on console since sniping on controller in this game is tough. On M+K it’s uselsss
VinylicPuma, do you only do Borderlands 1 videos with Lilith, because Lilith is your only level 69 borderlands 1 character or just because she’s your favourite Borderlands 1 character?
i killed the destroyer and saw an orange weapon i was like what the destroyer doesnt drop a legendary i run over to check it out its a wild cat i was like oh nvm i got nothing lol
why snipe with lilith then pull out a hellfire with merc com just to make cyclops look worse. why not snipe with a mordy sniper build?
I've had an anarchy Wildcat once and it had an accuracy of literally 0, which makes even most shotguns look like sniper rifles.
And I pretty much dislike all legendary shotguns in BL 1, even though shotguns are my favorite kind of weapon in the game. If the shot patterns would scale with accuracy, I'd probably like a lot of them, but so many of them just spray their pattern all over the place so that only a tiny fraction of the shots actually hit anything.
10. Cyclops (Sniper) - 2 much zoom, 2 much spread
9. Troll (Repeater) - Tiny heal not worth using gun for
8. Surkov (Sniper) - Ok but there are directly better versions of it with less spread
7. Butcher (Shotgun) - Eats a lot of ammo for less damage per shot and a wild burst fire
6. Mega Cannon (Eridian) - A little more damage at the expense of a slow fire rate and a painful weapon recharge time
5. Wildcat (SMG) - Big magazine and fast reload speed for really bad accuracy making hitting anything pretty hard
4. Redemption (Launcher) - More damage for more ammo consumption, but you're doing a lot less damage per rocket ammo used than most other launchers. Also have to reload after every shot
3. Hydra (Shotgun) - Pretty frustrating, shoots in a horizontal line, making it only useful at point blank range
2. Gasher (SMG) - What good is burst fire when you have bad spread, recoil, and accuracy. At least with the Wildcat you can just spray and hope to hit something
1. Friendly Fire (Shotgun) - Shoots a big ol smiley face which _hits nothing_
I got u