At the beginning each rep was different. Different speeds, different catches etc. The entire point here was to get her lifting consistently and at a high technical level. Each rep is an opportunity to achieve perfection and the more times you lift properly within a certain range of "perfection" the closer you will hone in on that perfect elite form over the years. When you're at a high level, and need to get even higher, every practice attempt done improperly, even if it's a make, is a detriment. I watched this video when it came out and I think no other video has had a greater influence on me since. I'd love to see more stuff like this guys!
The big difference between a coach and a personal trainer is a personal trainer boosts your confidence by telling you how great you are and how great you look, a coach wants you to perform at your best and doesn't care about massaging the ego.
i watched this video a few months back, I didn't understand it, came back and watched it again makes so much sense to me now. I started oly lifting recently, let my ego go up with the weights but I lacked consistency, now Im back to the broom, I think I will stay on the broom for a few months.
This is how you coach very very good athletes into becoming elite athletes. Christmas knows all the form cues, has practiced them for years and has made a name for herself with her lifting. But to become elite she must become more mentally consistent in her training and her performance. This was awesome to watch!
I like how respectful and humble the American gentleman is when introducing This accomplished Swedish athlete and coach: "anders ...something", "dude" etc...
Anders really highlights the mental demands of perfecting technique. Amazing!! Reminds be of Eckhart Tolle on Being Present. Love it! Thanks for the post!
This is a good example of need for dialogue between the Coach and Athlete. This gives the Athlete ownership of their performance and internalizing feedback.
If you're going to have a video like this focusing on technique, I'd love a better angle on the bar path and such and for the video to not fast forward through the bad reps. It's important to have bad reps and be able to see them. Otherwise there's nothing to note when it improves. Very interesting technique. The Oly lifts are such a mental thing.
I think this level of consistency and attention to technique would prevent a lot of injuries. I'm going to start giving my mind a workout too. Interesting stuff.
I could watch videos like this over and over. Watching coaches coach is a great way to become a better coach. Its all about communicating the message and you can only really see that organically, reading about it just isn't the same. More videos of coaches coaching would be awesome, especially higher level stuff like this.
Excellent video!! Lindsjo's coaching technique was something one has to behold to believe. He communicated very effectively without being too technical and that is a very hard thing to do. Christmas also did her part in listening to him and you could tell that her brain was working its way to understanding better what he was asking from her. Please continue your good work in making videos like these. Happy New Year to all of the Barbell Shrugged crew!!
This was great. Gives new meaning to a "technique session" I am going to do this next open box. Load the bar with 75# and just do 4 reps over and over to get it right learned a lot about the mental game
AsianImage it all goes out the window once you put weight on it. it's like trying to learn to fight by only hitting a punching bag. as soon as somebody throws a punch at you, it all goes out the window.
Mak Muk ... except that no one's punching you while you're snatching... Every time you add weight, the lifter + bar system's center of mass is going to change, and that will alter your technique slightly as you get stronger, but that's exactly why you have to do so much low-rep practice. There's a good reason you don't see competitive O-lifters doing tons of high rep sets, and it's because you can't use perfect technique in a fatigued state, particularly with a fairly heavy weight (for you). Perfect technique is the difference between a miss and a successful lift, so you always want to focus on that in your training, particularly in your first few years of O-lifting. That's the key to becoming good at Olympic lifts... low rep, no-fatigue practice + understanding the unique aspects of your body's structure and learning how to snatch and clean & jerk safely with them.
Please do more of these technique vids, it was so enjoyable to watch a pro coach doing his job and that even cf pro athletes aren't capable in getting the point. I guess that she or the american type is not his prefered advisee, so important to listen first;)
I think he was waiting on her to realize that she doesn't need to do them so fast right after another like you would do in a WOD. Olympic lifting is one lift at a time and I think with her background, she's used to doing reps one right after the other with that weight so that's what she was doing. I might be wrong, but I think he secretly wanted her to do them slow with great form rather than fast with good form.
Thinking the weirdos in the background are the same weirdos that ended up in the comments below. Your oddball opinions do not matter...only Christmas Abbot's opinion matters on what she thinks...did she progress...with it being a mental session in mind...I think she did...but it was a session for her and for her to decide if this will help her improve. For those cookie cutter coaches below, trying to hit all aspects of proper lifting in one session...good luck with that. Being a coach I really enjoyed that...but I went in it not to judge him but to pretend I was being coached...what a treat to share that with us. THANK YOU!
Great video, more of this kind of technique WOD videos! As you said a bit hard to understand sometimes what he meant sometimes. But i believe he was seeking consistency in the lifts and that Christmas was in absolute control of every lift. Barbell Shrugged - Great initiative!
Bit funny to watch the culture clash here, . swedes say how things are, where in states ppl are sugarcoating everything. She seems to be so suprised not hearing instant praises like back in her country (for instance 3:12). Not rude at all.
I agree. He is just giving clues, Abbot was all the time deciding if the lifts were good enough. If he would just give instant feedback it would ruin the whole exercise.
I would love to see this without the parts sped up so I can see her lifts even towards the end to see what he is looking at and to see her form more clearly!
It's not a war... no one has to put anyone in his/her place. This is all necessary (and anyway great to know in general) to snatch olympic weights. That's not the purpose of Crossfit. I think both benefit from each other and both can learn from each other.
There is no need to critize crossfit if somebody is willing to learn. Obvioulsy she is. If she applies everything she learns/will learn at the very end she will perform an olympic lift and not just moves weights around. One thing is clear: You can not do oly lifts for time like i have seen in some videos on RUclips. That contradicts the consistency of the reps especially when you want to go heavy and/or want to improve your technical skills and progress..
Jacobo Polavieja Olympic lifting does not benefit from crossfit other than to create coaching opportunities. easy money teaching weak people to lift light weights
bubbletea8888 Well, if your whole purpose in life is lift weights... Then I guess no, weightlifting cannot learn anything from CF. If you live in the real world, then yes. I hate crosfitters who think they are supperior because they do crossfit and are superior to any other practice of fitness, as much as weightlifters who think their sport is the one we should be standing in awe. Really, life is not black or white.
Mak Muk Isn't that benefit enough? And I don't mean the money (which is important too), but getting people to know a lovely sport like weightlifting through the practice of a different one. Besides as I answered earlier... if you have a more general goal in life than just lifting weights, then yes... weightlifters can take a few things from CF. I really really don't understand all this hatred between two sports that should be celebrating hand in hand. But... meh.
Yeah, this is no use if we can't look at the details of what she's improving. So many other videos out there wonderfully focus with slow-mo, vectors being drawn for understanding angles. I mean, Christmas is gorgeous, and all, but I can just check her instagram out.
To my novice eye the lifts look good. I guess I'm to biased by Christmas' beauty. She looks perfect to me and her form is good.. I honestly would have liked to have seen the camera angle from Coach Lindsjo''s point of view to see what he saw was wrong.
+adam h Was that supposed to be an insult? Because if so, I doubt she cares much for your opinion. Christmas is in Sweden getting taught by a extremely decorated ex-lifter. Where are you? Nobody cares
You really should know how to pronounce his surname out of respect if nothing else. "Anders ..... something Swedish" is disrespectful and unprofessional.
This man is trying to mess her head up more then saying oh it's in your head he can get bent. He seems quiet creepy when he was talking about deep close and fast then saying touch and stroking leg with finger just not necessary
Calling this a WOD is extremely disrespectful to this whole training. This is a seminar and elite-level coaching session in weightlifting, this should have nothing to do with Crossfit terms.
He wanted to teach but he couldn't because her technique had a lot of problems. His point of asking her is it good enough was that he did not want her to look to him to move to the next step. He wanted her to feel ready to move to the next step. By doing that it does two different things. 1st it gives her confidence in her technique. 2nd it forces her to be true to herself about her technique.
+micjakes1 because the point is to see the coach/athlete interaction, not to critique her great looking (to me) performance, that is the coaches job. It is in the interaction that we can observe and take home a lesson to apply ourselves.
Am I really gonna be the only one in the comments section to say "This is some bullshit, right here" ? Do you think the Russians, Bulgarians, Chinese etc train like this at all? This is just what olympic lifting has become with commercialization. A bunch of bullshit with a price tag on it...
So... How do the Russians, Bulgarians, Chinese train? It would be great to see and to know. Maybe this isn't bullshit with a price tag on it but just a different style of doing things?
Jacobo Polavieja Well. First of all there are some videos/training programs that show how they train. But mostly it doesn't do any good to the rest of the world because they select certain individuals who are genetically better at withstanding the harsh training that is olympic weightlifting. Check out videos of Hysen Pulaku for example. He trains with the former Bulgarian head coach, and they do 3 sessions a day, max lifts every time. Us mortals couldn't take that type of training, we'd end up in the hospital... Second. Ok, let's say this is just a different style of doing things. But how come Sweden have no olympic lifters in the Olympics or Worlds? They have 2 females who place around 9th in the Europeans. Olympic weightlifting is one of the most predictable sports. The same type of training has worked throughout its history and very few new "ideas" are as good or better than what has worked in the past, I'm sorry to say. Lastly. Fine, let's say this guy realizes that what he does is not ground breaking and he won't be training world class olympic weightlifters. I still think this is such a childish way of teaching the snatch. "Reflect on what you have done" "Does it feel good enough?" Just DO the lifts over and over with a coach giving you tips on technique as you go along and you'll learn the snatch. No need for this sort of new age-ish type of learning. Even she gets uncomfortable by it
It's light technique work. The fatigue is mental, and being critical of your movement to improve is the whole point. Most amateur weightlifters need to do more of this work than looking for the 'right program' and banging out crap quality lifts. This work is what the heroic lifters we all look up to did as kids, and people think they can skip it.
At the beginning each rep was different. Different speeds, different catches etc. The entire point here was to get her lifting consistently and at a high technical level. Each rep is an opportunity to achieve perfection and the more times you lift properly within a certain range of "perfection" the closer you will hone in on that perfect elite form over the years. When you're at a high level, and need to get even higher, every practice attempt done improperly, even if it's a make, is a detriment. I watched this video when it came out and I think no other video has had a greater influence on me since. I'd love to see more stuff like this guys!
The big difference between a coach and a personal trainer is a personal trainer boosts your confidence by telling you how great you are and how great you look, a coach wants you to perform at your best and doesn't care about massaging the ego.
"I think you need to rest....your head"
Classic.
i watched this video a few months back, I didn't understand it, came back and watched it again makes so much sense to me now. I started oly lifting recently, let my ego go up with the weights but I lacked consistency, now Im back to the broom, I think I will stay on the broom for a few months.
This is how you coach very very good athletes into becoming elite athletes. Christmas knows all the form cues, has practiced them for years and has made a name for herself with her lifting. But to become elite she must become more mentally consistent in her training and her performance. This was awesome to watch!
I like how respectful and humble the American gentleman is when introducing This accomplished Swedish athlete and coach: "anders ...something", "dude" etc...
Anders really highlights the mental demands of perfecting technique. Amazing!! Reminds be of Eckhart Tolle on Being Present. Love it! Thanks for the post!
This is a good example of need for dialogue between the Coach and Athlete. This gives the Athlete ownership of their performance and internalizing feedback.
If you're going to have a video like this focusing on technique, I'd love a better angle on the bar path and such and for the video to not fast forward through the bad reps. It's important to have bad reps and be able to see them. Otherwise there's nothing to note when it improves. Very interesting technique. The Oly lifts are such a mental thing.
Wow. Talking about Olympic level of coaching. Thank you guys for sharing it and thank you Christmas for being brave to be judged. :)
Form is so important, I loved the constant feedback!
I think this level of consistency and attention to technique would prevent a lot of injuries. I'm going to start giving my mind a workout too. Interesting stuff.
I could watch videos like this over and over. Watching coaches coach is a great way to become a better coach. Its all about communicating the message and you can only really see that organically, reading about it just isn't the same. More videos of coaches coaching would be awesome, especially higher level stuff like this.
Learning how to "Practice Perfect" is THE hardest type of training, but it does produce optimal and reliable results.
Thanks for sharing.
That was some serious coaching. Christmas changed her technique without direct instruction. Great video.
You've got to be humble to take this kind of coaching the level Christmas is at. Loved it.
Wow, that just showed me a whole new level of training. Wow!
Would definitely like to see more videos like this, Anders shed some very insightful tips
Excellent video!! Lindsjo's coaching technique was something one has to behold to believe. He communicated very effectively without being too technical and that is a very hard thing to do. Christmas also did her part in listening to him and you could tell that her brain was working its way to understanding better what he was asking from her. Please continue your good work in making videos like these. Happy New Year to all of the Barbell Shrugged crew!!
Loved this, makes you think how many times you moved up in weight when it wasn't good enough with lighter weight..
This was great. Gives new meaning to a "technique session" I am going to do this next open box. Load the bar with 75# and just do 4 reps over and over to get it right learned a lot about the mental game
AsianImage it all goes out the window once you put weight on it. it's like trying to learn to fight by only hitting a punching bag. as soon as somebody throws a punch at you, it all goes out the window.
Mak Muk ... except that no one's punching you while you're snatching...
Every time you add weight, the lifter + bar system's center of mass is going to change, and that will alter your technique slightly as you get stronger, but that's exactly why you have to do so much low-rep practice. There's a good reason you don't see competitive O-lifters doing tons of high rep sets, and it's because you can't use perfect technique in a fatigued state, particularly with a fairly heavy weight (for you). Perfect technique is the difference between a miss and a successful lift, so you always want to focus on that in your training, particularly in your first few years of O-lifting.
That's the key to becoming good at Olympic lifts... low rep, no-fatigue practice + understanding the unique aspects of your body's structure and learning how to snatch and clean & jerk safely with them.
I love the way this guy coaches.
Please do more of these technique vids, it was so enjoyable to watch a pro coach doing his job and that even cf pro athletes aren't capable in getting the point. I guess that she or the american type is not his prefered advisee, so important to listen first;)
Brilliant coaching.
wow great info some of the best coaching Ive seen in a long time.
Proud Swede checking in! My gym also just got like 20 eleiko barbells and 10 squat stands and racks, it feels like heaven!
is there a follow up video?? i want to see more of his coaching and the complete version of this!
There is a lot of wisdom in that guy's head. Really think about what he is saying and how it applies in almost every aspect of life.
I want more of this! I'm going to take this method in to my next workout.
I think he was waiting on her to realize that she doesn't need to do them so fast right after another like you would do in a WOD. Olympic lifting is one lift at a time and I think with her background, she's used to doing reps one right after the other with that weight so that's what she was doing. I might be wrong, but I think he secretly wanted her to do them slow with great form rather than fast with good form.
Thinking the weirdos in the background are the same weirdos that ended up in the comments below. Your oddball opinions do not matter...only Christmas Abbot's opinion matters on what she thinks...did she progress...with it being a mental session in mind...I think she did...but it was a session for her and for her to decide if this will help her improve. For those cookie cutter coaches below, trying to hit all aspects of proper lifting in one session...good luck with that. Being a coach I really enjoyed that...but I went in it not to judge him but to pretend I was being coached...what a treat to share that with us. THANK YOU!
Great video, more of this kind of technique WOD videos! As you said a bit hard to understand sometimes what he meant sometimes. But i believe he was seeking consistency in the lifts and that Christmas was in absolute control of every lift. Barbell Shrugged - Great initiative!
I like his coaching style. That's right to elite athletes.
i don't think he is rude at all, i think he is just trying to get the best out of her.
+James Garth Agreed
+James Garth tuff love for tuff making. But damn sometimes its like wth is he talking about.
Bit funny to watch the culture clash here, . swedes say how things are, where in states ppl are sugarcoating everything. She seems to be so suprised not hearing instant praises like back in her country (for instance 3:12). Not rude at all.
I agree. He is just giving clues, Abbot was all the time deciding if the lifts were good enough. If he would just give instant feedback it would ruin the whole exercise.
It is so mentally challenging because there are so many things to think of. I loved the hell out of this video. thanks Liked and subscribed
"Then you need to do it again"
I think I'd struggle with that intensity of coaching. As lots of people have said, the difference between recreational and professional! :P
I would love to see this without the parts sped up so I can see her lifts even towards the end to see what he is looking at and to see her form more clearly!
He's funny. Crude swedish coaching. I'm swedish and I believe a lot of what may come across as douchy is due to language barrier...
I'm Canadian, no issues here. He's got a very cerebral approach to coaching, I love it.
i like how he trains
16:10- truth
Awesome coach
Awesome video!
Had to subscribe because you use a Torch riff in your intro song.
went from crossfit speed to actually understanding that the snatch is an intricate movement
When I think of O.L. I cannot help but think; Swedish coaching template. LOL
Good coaching, good lifting, good looking girl. All are exceptional
this really highlights the complexity of olympic weightlifting and it clearly puts a crossfitter in their place
It's not a war... no one has to put anyone in his/her place. This is all necessary (and anyway great to know in general) to snatch olympic weights. That's not the purpose of Crossfit. I think both benefit from each other and both can learn from each other.
There is no need to critize crossfit if somebody is willing to learn. Obvioulsy she is. If she applies everything she learns/will learn at the very end she will perform an olympic lift and not just moves weights around. One thing is clear: You can not do oly lifts for time like i have seen in some videos on RUclips. That contradicts the consistency of the reps especially when you want to go heavy and/or want to improve your technical skills and progress..
Jacobo Polavieja Olympic lifting does not benefit from crossfit other than to create coaching opportunities. easy money teaching weak people to lift light weights
bubbletea8888 Well, if your whole purpose in life is lift weights... Then I guess no, weightlifting cannot learn anything from CF. If you live in the real world, then yes.
I hate crosfitters who think they are supperior because they do crossfit and are superior to any other practice of fitness, as much as weightlifters who think their sport is the one we should be standing in awe. Really, life is not black or white.
Mak Muk Isn't that benefit enough? And I don't mean the money (which is important too), but getting people to know a lovely sport like weightlifting through the practice of a different one.
Besides as I answered earlier... if you have a more general goal in life than just lifting weights, then yes... weightlifters can take a few things from CF.
I really really don't understand all this hatred between two sports that should be celebrating hand in hand. But... meh.
Man, Doug has such a nice voice.
No hetero
#fullhomo .
2 hours with this guy and id be mentally and physically broke
Respekt Anders!
I am Happy that Legit Oly Lifters are Teaching Crossfitters Proper Form !!! :D
12:59 that evil smile hahaha
Did anyone else notice the creeper at 7:20? He is taking pictures of her trying to be sly about it!
What kinda nomadic coaching is this??
Yeah, this is no use if we can't look at the details of what she's improving. So many other videos out there wonderfully focus with slow-mo, vectors being drawn for understanding angles. I mean, Christmas is gorgeous, and all, but I can just check her instagram out.
is that 2,5 kg on each side?
more!
who is the cameraman???? we almost see nothiing about the snatch, no visual content about body touching or not touching to the bar.
got it !
If corona wasn't a thing right now, I would give her a hug
To my novice eye the lifts look good. I guess I'm to biased by Christmas' beauty. She looks perfect to me and her form is good.. I honestly would have liked to have seen the camera angle from Coach Lindsjo''s point of view to see what he saw was wrong.
Where did he get his shirt from?
An angel fallen to earth, i think i´m in love...
would appreciate videos slowed down rather than speed up! I suck at these
i dont get what shes doing wrong wow
it's like Master ShiFu telling you "be inner peace" you just have no clue what he means
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COOL
смотреть не могу на паралельные ступни в начальной позиции, похоже этот тренер сам не знает базовых углов.
Please don't fast forward
I don't get it, I see the same movement...
Is it good enough?!?!?! :D
Tough coach.
I don't care what you say. Abbot is the template all women should be judged on.
This guy 😂😂😂
God look at all those pro's in the comments bellow :D
Aweful camera work. Speeding up doesn't help me see the issue.
So cute
Snatch version of Karate kid
So he is looking at women's snatches all day?
'Very knowledgeable guy' Doesn't know name. Great preparation. douche.....
talk about lifting like a true crossfitter -_
+adam h Was that supposed to be an insult? Because if so, I doubt she cares much for your opinion. Christmas is in Sweden getting taught by a extremely decorated ex-lifter. Where are you? Nobody cares
You really should know how to pronounce his surname out of respect if nothing else. "Anders ..... something Swedish" is disrespectful and unprofessional.
Greatest how not to coach vid. Provide some guidance or parts to work on. Dont ask your client rhetoric questions, give constructive feedback.
This man is trying to mess her head up more then saying oh it's in your head he can get bent. He seems quiet creepy when he was talking about deep close and fast then saying touch and stroking leg with finger just not necessary
weak back, pushing with legs, lifting upper Body to early, probably not in center of gravity. bar is not covered by the shoulder... dafuq is this?
Viktor Onopko worst technique ever, that it is hehe
Calling this a WOD is extremely disrespectful to this whole training.
This is a seminar and elite-level coaching session in weightlifting, this should have nothing to do with Crossfit terms.
Why is she leaning forward so much
Because she is CROSSFITER nothing more to say Sir
she doesnt understand what he is saying. neither do i. he should show her what he means.
the sexual tension was the most exhausting part of this video
Salman Tahir
I thought she was going to rip his clothes off.
wow why so rude? shes doing great
wtf?
"Is its good enough, ored not"
"You have to thinks"
I don't get what's his objective.
guess this was more of a mental training about a better mind-muscles connection. Just my 2 cents
Le tagliatelle al ragu'
Oh i agree with you ragu. It's more of a mental approach to one's training .n
dave chun Coaching without really coach... Probably why there are no Swedish Gold medalists in Oly lifting.
He wanted to teach but he couldn't because her technique had a lot of problems. His point of asking her is it good enough was that he did not want her to look to him to move to the next step. He wanted her to feel ready to move to the next step. By doing that it does two different things. 1st it gives her confidence in her technique. 2nd it forces her to be true to herself about her technique.
....wax on.......wax off......
knees to wide on start... toes aren't Out, quads and bottom is less engaged... what the hell are you teaching...
This is so bad hahaha
why on earth do they speed up the film? is so annoying!!!! like watching a goofy comedy spoof.
+micjakes1 because the point is to see the coach/athlete interaction, not to critique her great looking (to me) performance, that is the coaches job. It is in the interaction that we can observe and take home a lesson to apply ourselves.
+TheMorgDotOrg thanks morg. am new to the game; how new? try a 20 lb snatch!!!! don't tell nobody.
Am I really gonna be the only one in the comments section to say "This is some bullshit, right here" ? Do you think the Russians, Bulgarians, Chinese etc train like this at all? This is just what olympic lifting has become with commercialization. A bunch of bullshit with a price tag on it...
So... How do the Russians, Bulgarians, Chinese train? It would be great to see and to know.
Maybe this isn't bullshit with a price tag on it but just a different style of doing things?
Jacobo Polavieja Well. First of all there are some videos/training programs that show how they train. But mostly it doesn't do any good to the rest of the world because they select certain individuals who are genetically better at withstanding the harsh training that is olympic weightlifting. Check out videos of Hysen Pulaku for example. He trains with the former Bulgarian head coach, and they do 3 sessions a day, max lifts every time. Us mortals couldn't take that type of training, we'd end up in the hospital...
Second. Ok, let's say this is just a different style of doing things. But how come Sweden have no olympic lifters in the Olympics or Worlds? They have 2 females who place around 9th in the Europeans.
Olympic weightlifting is one of the most predictable sports. The same type of training has worked throughout its history and very few new "ideas" are as good or better than what has worked in the past, I'm sorry to say.
Lastly. Fine, let's say this guy realizes that what he does is not ground breaking and he won't be training world class olympic weightlifters. I still think this is such a childish way of teaching the snatch. "Reflect on what you have done" "Does it feel good enough?" Just DO the lifts over and over with a coach giving you tips on technique as you go along and you'll learn the snatch. No need for this sort of new age-ish type of learning. Even she gets uncomfortable by it
By executing every lift with consistent technique? Yes they do.
no one benefits of overthinkin the lift. Even the lightest of weights become difficult to lift if you think too much. More power less thinking.
This guy doesn't seem that helpful. The more you do the more tired you become in mind and body. Of course it may never be "good enough." Not a fan.
It's light technique work. The fatigue is mental, and being critical of your movement to improve is the whole point. Most amateur weightlifters need to do more of this work than looking for the 'right program' and banging out crap quality lifts. This work is what the heroic lifters we all look up to did as kids, and people think they can skip it.