A great play I found in this is having a card like reliquary tower, or spell book out (basically anything that gives you unlimited hand size) and then moving skullclamp around on a few tokens. If you do it five times, you drew ten cards. Another great play is that if you have nahiri out (even if she isn't your commander) and use her plus one, then you can equip the skull clamp to the kor soldier for free. Boom, free draw 2 every turn
Awesome video, I'm a fan of Jazal. Don't forget Secure the Wastes, thats fantastic. Elspeth, Sun's Champion is great also, it does more than Nihiri for this token strategy deck. Odric, Master Tactician doesn't put out tokens, however, he is a threat paired with tokens and Jazal. At some point just throw in Raise the Alarm, it's not horrible, it's two bodies and triggers Cathar's Crusade twice at the very least. And don't forget that Gideon's Phalanx can be a good surprise, as its at instant speed, and will most likely give your guys four new bodies and indestructible easily. Rootborn Defenses needs to go in as well. But yes, Jazal can get out of hand quick.
I would love to take a shot at this deck as a Jazaal/Brimaz kitty tribal. Had a great run with a standard Brimaz/Ajani/Elspeth Cat/Soldier/Cat Soldier theme, so this might be both my next mono-white casual and my first attempt at mono-white EDH... I could use more variety for the days I just don't feel like playing Krenko's Mob or Kaalia's Air-Raid.
EDH budget deck tech... "Buy black 2014 Commander" only cards i changed were adding diabolic tutor and liliana for some tutor effects and soul of innistrade for more recycling.
I always hated reading the flavor text of cards where they talked about people, but there were no cards of them. Now Commander 2014 is coming out with Gisa, Geralf, Jazal. It's awesome
Odric, Master Tactician will allow all those creatures to become unblockable and since you have alot of creatures, you can get to his special ability with confidence. Mother of Runes and other cheap protection instants like faith's shield can help keep your important ones alive and in your control (against all the removal out there).
I improved on the mono-white deck a little choosing to embrace the token gen and equipment strategy. I still use nahiri and I plan on adding more metalcraft and artifact based interactions, a few key cards that Ill add at some stage are elesh norn, mycosyth lattice, darksteel forge, indomitable angel, Elspeth, suns champion, Ajani, Steadfast and maybe original avacyn
TheManaSource thanks, the are a few little themes in the deck, tokens and equipment are the main theme with a cat, kor and soldier sub-tribal theme. can make the tokens upto 8/8s without equipment. I also added Elspeth, knight Errant too. Suggestion for the next commander video after next; the powerpuff girls: Bruna, Gisela, and Sigarda.
I liked this video but I thought there where a few inclusions that I found conspiciously absent. I would have made room for Deploy to the Front and Nomad's Assembly. Just being able to double your tokens in play for one card is too good to pass up. Also, a few instant speed tricks might be appropriate, as the vast majority of this deck is at sorcery speed which can be a major downside to aggro decks. Maybe Ghostway to save your team in response to a Wrath of God effect, Banishing Stroke to tuck a problem or general, or Charge Across the Arba or Swell of Courage to kill the table out of nowhere. With that in mind, you could possibly fit in Vedalkin Orrey to be able to get in threats during an opponent's end step, allowing you to get in with at least one attack before they have an oppertunity to board wipe. :D Thanks for a great video.
halim lorette Cuts definitely had to be made and obviously its impossible to think of everything. The nice thing about a strategy like this is there is a TON of room to customize.Your suggestions are great! :)
I like to pronounced his name "Jazzle", emphasis on the first syllable, because it sounds more fabulous that way. "Hi guys. I'm Ajani's brother? Nice to MEET you!" That Jazal loves to attack with big men.
Love the vid i personally would add a soul warden and soul ascendent ( I believe that's what it's called) I personally like feeling save with a ton of life :)
Put jazal into my white black warrior tribe deck. Deck mostly centers around having big blockers till I summon I big creature to defeay them in one swoop.
The original deck that Jazal came in was great. I kept Nahiri as my commander, but I ended up having to swap out some of the creatures, like Requiem Angel and the 3/2 that makes tokens when it dies. I ended up having to add a bunch of equipment, and equip friendly cards. I also added other cards to help make tokens, like Conqueror's Pledge. Haven't won a game with it yet (I play with a couple of power gamers who've been playing a lot longer than I have), but it's a blast to play with. : )
God Damn it Wedge. You are making these commander videos while I'm here waiting for my shop to order the decks. I don't know if I hate you or love you. :P
thank you! ive been working on a jor kadeen deck i want it to be tokens but i get carried away and just throw in a bunc of "hey these are good witha giant army!" type cards forgetting to actually yah know..make a giant army
There is a shocking lack of Entreat the Angels in this list. An instant army of 6/6 fliers is pretty solid for a token-focused general. Or, like, any general with White in its color identity.
I love Skullclamp... I use it in my Atheros Reanimator... have Atheros, Edict of Erabos and Bloodsoaked Champion.. attack for the turn, equip the Skullclamp, draw two cards, opponent sacs a creature.. then they have to choose to let the card go back to your hand or take three life.. either way you can replay it and Skullclamp all over again until you are outta mana.. while clearing their board.. lol
Why isn't Elspeth, suns champion in the deck? It is absolutely perfect for the deck. She makes tokens, pumps them up, and she makes for a great emergency board
Cool video but you did say that you would make a temur deck tech a while ago and I know it hasn't done amazingly in standard buuut I am still waiting for that. A green red monsters tech wouldn't be bad either :)
if i'm reading jazal right, you can multi activate the ability... so, if u have 10 mana, and 6 swinging creatures, each get +12/+12...wow. and you can activate it after blockers are declared...
I was playing magic with a couple friends tonight, and one of them had a really good control deck based around counter spells and destroy spells, and then a few big monsters to finish the game, such as mahamoti djinn. I've been using a token deck based around elspeth, sun's champion that was basically undefeated(exception being when I was teamed up on, or a recent game where I drew nothing but land for 20 turns straight, which I still don't know how it happened) until tonight, because I just couldn't keep any creatures on the field for more than a turn. Any recommendations on how to help neutralize his deck, or at least stand a chance at beating it?
You would think that, but protect magic doesn't do anything until the creature resolves and enters the battlefield. Counter spells work by cutting it short before the spell resolves, basically.
Harrison Johnson what about cavern of souls for creatures, Boseiju, Who Shelters All for spells? and Rootborn Defenses to defens your creatures and Populate them? Break of Day, Frontline Medic to counter, even Gideon's Phalanx can be very good. maybe yo can play boros charm if you have got red.
I am happy that i can help you, Also you can try this guy - Celestial Crusader. He cant be countered and has flash to avoid be tapped out for wrath effect
I've had 9 creatures in play and attacked with Jazal to deal a total of 135 damage to my opponent. He began to empty his desk before I was able to finish the damage count lol
I tried to do a similar, but bigger thing with Viridian Joiner, Umbral Mantle, and Hydra Broodmaster. Immediately after I generated 384 Billion Tokens; my opponent played Rakdos Charm...
That's what the other Legendaries are there for, other Commander options. Ob Nixilis and Freyalise are completely useless as Commanders. I used Ezuri, and it was ridiculous[ly good.]
I was playing EDH with my roommate and gf last night, and when my roommate swung at her I asked him to read his ability again. He then read it and activated it twice then was promptly time stopped........I might be satan
jazal, I need him for my rhys deck I mentioned when I said I was gonna get the green c14 deck. heres my list after I picked that up for just a few cards. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/21-11-14-rhys-of-the-elves/ I know that rhys is a token deck but proxie this and try it out and youll love it
+Andreas Rossi You don't need any of those cards or the higher cost spells,they just slow the deck down.If you just focus on putting out tokens and pumping them you'll be fine.
A great play I found in this is having a card like reliquary tower, or spell book out (basically anything that gives you unlimited hand size) and then moving skullclamp around on a few tokens. If you do it five times, you drew ten cards. Another great play is that if you have nahiri out (even if she isn't your commander) and use her plus one, then you can equip the skull clamp to the kor soldier for free. Boom, free draw 2 every turn
I would like to see more of these commander deck techs
Awesome video, I'm a fan of Jazal. Don't forget Secure the Wastes, thats fantastic. Elspeth, Sun's Champion is great also, it does more than Nihiri for this token strategy deck. Odric, Master Tactician doesn't put out tokens, however, he is a threat paired with tokens and Jazal. At some point just throw in Raise the Alarm, it's not horrible, it's two bodies and triggers Cathar's Crusade twice at the very least. And don't forget that Gideon's Phalanx can be a good surprise, as its at instant speed, and will most likely give your guys four new bodies and indestructible easily. Rootborn Defenses needs to go in as well. But yes, Jazal can get out of hand quick.
I would love to take a shot at this deck as a Jazaal/Brimaz kitty tribal. Had a great run with a standard Brimaz/Ajani/Elspeth Cat/Soldier/Cat Soldier theme, so this might be both my next mono-white casual and my first attempt at mono-white EDH... I could use more variety for the days I just don't feel like playing Krenko's Mob or Kaalia's Air-Raid.
EDH budget deck tech... "Buy black 2014 Commander" only cards i changed were adding diabolic tutor and liliana for some tutor effects and soul of innistrade for more recycling.
I always hated reading the flavor text of cards where they talked about people, but there were no cards of them. Now Commander 2014 is coming out with Gisa, Geralf, Jazal. It's awesome
The Squirteler Right?! The lore is so real!
You guys should do a Gisa, Ghoulcaller commander deck tech. A black token-oriented strategy could be a cool contrast to this.
Malcolm G Interesting ;)
TheManaSource Plz Wedge :)
That would be totally awesome!!
Odric, Master Tactician will allow all those creatures to become unblockable and since you have alot of creatures, you can get to his special ability with confidence. Mother of Runes and other cheap protection instants like faith's shield can help keep your important ones alive and in your control (against all the removal out there).
Just curious as to why no brimaz?
Awesome deck tech, Wedge. May be looking for a new commander deck as my friends don't want to play against my Grenzo, Dungeon Warden deck anymore.
Robert Faulks Grenzo can be pretty amazing! Jazal is great too :)
So I have a very similar style deck. I like to combo 'Goldknight Commander' and 'Launch the fleet' when you attack with a bunch of tokens.
I improved on the mono-white deck a little choosing to embrace the token gen and equipment strategy. I still use nahiri and I plan on adding more metalcraft and artifact based interactions, a few key cards that Ill add at some stage are elesh norn, mycosyth lattice, darksteel forge, indomitable angel, Elspeth, suns champion, Ajani, Steadfast and maybe original avacyn
***** Those are all great cards! Nice choices :)
TheManaSource thanks, the are a few little themes in the deck, tokens and equipment are the main theme with a cat, kor and soldier sub-tribal theme. can make the tokens upto 8/8s without equipment. I also added Elspeth, knight Errant too.
Suggestion for the next commander video after next; the powerpuff girls: Bruna, Gisela, and Sigarda.
I play Trostani with some similar tricks, plus access to another colour!
I liked this video but I thought there where a few inclusions that I found conspiciously absent. I would have made room for Deploy to the Front and Nomad's Assembly. Just being able to double your tokens in play for one card is too good to pass up. Also, a few instant speed tricks might be appropriate, as the vast majority of this deck is at sorcery speed which can be a major downside to aggro decks. Maybe Ghostway to save your team in response to a Wrath of God effect, Banishing Stroke to tuck a problem or general, or Charge Across the Arba or Swell of Courage to kill the table out of nowhere. With that in mind, you could possibly fit in Vedalkin Orrey to be able to get in threats during an opponent's end step, allowing you to get in with at least one attack before they have an oppertunity to board wipe. :D Thanks for a great video.
halim lorette Cuts definitely had to be made and obviously its impossible to think of everything. The nice thing about a strategy like this is there is a TON of room to customize.Your suggestions are great! :)
I like to pronounced his name "Jazzle", emphasis on the first syllable, because it sounds more fabulous that way. "Hi guys. I'm Ajani's brother? Nice to MEET you!" That Jazal loves to attack with big men.
Love the vid i personally would add a soul warden and soul ascendent ( I believe that's what it's called) I personally like feeling save with a ton of life :)
*safe
what about martial coup?
Can you guys cover Sygg, River Cutthroat next? Would love to see what you have to say about him.
My next (and 11th) EHD deck will be a Mardu Tokens, I'm sure Jazal will be there but I'm lacking the general yet. Let's see what "Fate" brings us!
Put jazal into my white black warrior tribe deck. Deck mostly centers around having big blockers till I summon I big creature to defeay them in one swoop.
The original deck that Jazal came in was great. I kept Nahiri as my commander, but I ended up having to swap out some of the creatures, like Requiem Angel and the 3/2 that makes tokens when it dies. I ended up having to add a bunch of equipment, and equip friendly cards. I also added other cards to help make tokens, like Conqueror's Pledge. Haven't won a game with it yet (I play with a couple of power gamers who've been playing a lot longer than I have), but it's a blast to play with. : )
SheffieldsPark Yeah there are definitely a few ways you can go with the initial deck. An equipment build is definitely worth playing around with :)
I do like the populate mechanic and I have a similar deck but I made Trostani my general. But Jazal is in there
Add a Sublime Archangel and pump up a single person with near unlimited Exalted boosts
God Damn it Wedge. You are making these commander videos while I'm here waiting for my shop to order the decks. I don't know if I hate you or love you. :P
Willians Navarro Both seems fine :P
thank you! ive been working on a jor kadeen deck i want it to be tokens but i get carried away and just throw in a bunc of "hey these are good witha giant army!" type cards forgetting to actually yah know..make a giant army
darth turtle haha
I'd also put in Akroma's memorial, solemn simulacrum, and seer's sundial to help out the team!
And staff of nin too! :)
egyptcraze Shouldn't every deck have a Staff of Nin after all :p
TheManaSource of course@ lol
what about adding odric lunarch marshal. sharing all the key words during combat is nice. also, Grand abolisher is good to have
What was your reaction when in Khans they came out with lands named after you, Wedge?
There is a shocking lack of Entreat the Angels in this list. An instant army of 6/6 fliers is pretty solid for a token-focused general. Or, like, any general with White in its color identity.
Won't Cathars' Crusade + Wingmate Roc give you a 4/5 and a 5/6 since the token comes into play afterwards?
I love Skullclamp... I use it in my Atheros Reanimator... have Atheros, Edict of Erabos and Bloodsoaked Champion.. attack for the turn, equip the Skullclamp, draw two cards, opponent sacs a creature.. then they have to choose to let the card go back to your hand or take three life.. either way you can replay it and Skullclamp all over again until you are outta mana.. while clearing their board.. lol
McDylster Athreos and Skullclamp...so dirty. People just hate you xD
Why isn't Elspeth, suns champion in the deck? It is absolutely perfect for the deck. She makes tokens, pumps them up, and she makes for a great emergency board
Wipe.
Cool video but you did say that you would make a temur deck tech a while ago and I know it hasn't done amazingly in standard buuut I am still waiting for that. A green red monsters tech wouldn't be bad either :)
Matt Ladocsi Working on it!
Entreat the Angels! For the same mana as storm herd you get 12 power worth of flyer for normal cast or 32 for miracle.
avacyn would be nice with that much mana ramp...would suck to lose tokens to a wrath
Good video. In the future, could you add decklist and maybe total cost in comments?
Truth65300 It is in the comments.
I would have replaced one of the wraths with Martial coup as it doubles as a token generator but that's just me.
if i'm reading jazal right, you can multi activate the ability... so, if u have 10 mana, and 6 swinging creatures, each get +12/+12...wow. and you can activate it after blockers are declared...
Yes,you got that right :)
Sure can. With just a few creatures and a lot of mana, you can do scary things with Jazal.
brynt91 Yeah. He's kinda bonkers! :)
Best I've done with him is 3 activations; unfortunately I only had 3 attacking creatures at the time, but it did win me the game.
Lol, I got the same. I didn't win, but I left the game having got my good hits in.
You should make a vorel not-+1+1 counters
You should make a video on a cat tribal deck
I don't like that he's a slightly worst Mirror Entity unless you have like 10 mana and a huge army.
your budget commander series should be called 100 under 100!
Mac Lowe That's outrageously clever. haha!
nice video, but you´ve forgotten "Darien, King of Kjeldor"!!
While I don't use mono commanders, he has a special place in my budget Mardu commander deck with his buddy Zurgo.
do a zurgo helmsmasher deck tech for EDH! :D
I was playing magic with a couple friends tonight, and one of them had a really good control deck based around counter spells and destroy spells, and then a few big monsters to finish the game, such as mahamoti djinn. I've been using a token deck based around elspeth, sun's champion that was basically undefeated(exception being when I was teamed up on, or a recent game where I drew nothing but land for 20 turns straight, which I still don't know how it happened) until tonight, because I just couldn't keep any creatures on the field for more than a turn. Any recommendations on how to help neutralize his deck, or at least stand a chance at beating it?
protect magic
You would think that, but protect magic doesn't do anything until the creature resolves and enters the battlefield. Counter spells work by cutting it short before the spell resolves, basically.
Harrison Johnson what about cavern of souls for creatures, Boseiju, Who Shelters All for spells? and Rootborn Defenses to defens your creatures and Populate them? Break of Day, Frontline Medic to counter, even Gideon's Phalanx can be very good. maybe yo can play boros charm if you have got red.
dude, those cards are great. They're going on the to-buy list for next time I buy cards.
I am happy that i can help you, Also you can try this guy - Celestial Crusader. He cant be countered and has flash to avoid be tapped out for wrath effect
This deck just got cool new tech with Mavren Fein
Also where are Elspeth, sun's champion and Gideon, Ally of Zendikar?
What about mass Calsify
Odric Master Tactician is great. Atk multiple opponents and choose no block, multiple dead opponents.
Saran Kleesuwan Nice suggestion!
TheManaSource I just love Odric in Weenie strats its just like I attack with these 50 guys and you choose not to block.
TheManaSource Odric is actually my current commander and I really like him.
*Ahem* Captain No-blocks. :-D
We need a ruric thar or othwer aggro build deck tech u3u
Why does this deck not have Martial Coup?
I've had 9 creatures in play and attacked with Jazal to deal a total of 135 damage to my opponent. He began to empty his desk before I was able to finish the damage count lol
Wake the reflections
Ajani, Caller of the Pride?!
Just used Jazal tonight to attack with 63 creatures for a grand total of approximately 4,113 damage.
Colt Guthrie haha very nice!
I tried to do a similar, but bigger thing with Viridian Joiner, Umbral Mantle, and Hydra Broodmaster. Immediately after I generated 384 Billion Tokens; my opponent played Rakdos Charm...
That's what the other Legendaries are there for, other Commander options.
Ob Nixilis and Freyalise are completely useless as Commanders. I used Ezuri, and it was ridiculous[ly good.]
Sheriff K Ezuri is such a beast! haha
Yeah, he is awesome. Friend of mine used Yeva, Nature's Herald. I hate playing against Mana-Ramp, Tribal decks with flash...
wedge i'm not sure if you noticed but the proffessor called you out of certain lore videos
Cerialeater01 Yeah...about that xD
whenever i play the white commander deck i run jazal as a commander anyway
i am making a naya edh token deck now
Great tech deck build! Now we're TOKEN >:D
Ralph Edward Cadiz BA DUM CHII!
+TheManaSource How much would this deck cost to complete?
I would have tried to work in Sanctimony and Purity for protection and mess with Red players
Have you tried Conversion? Absolutely hates red players
Anyone else think Entreat the Angels would do work in this deck?
Yes defiantly
only card I think it needs is Rootborn Defenses.
i just like naya tokens so much better because i can double my tokens and counters and have my unstoppable force of planeswalkers >:D
*Mumble cough* Cat tribal
I was playing EDH with my roommate and gf last night, and when my roommate swung at her I asked him to read his ability again. He then read it and activated it twice then was promptly time stopped........I might be satan
jazal, I need him
for my rhys deck I mentioned when I said I was gonna get the green c14 deck.
heres my list after I picked that up for just a few cards.
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/21-11-14-rhys-of-the-elves/
I know that rhys is a token deck but proxie this and try it out and youll love it
1 Candelabra of Tawnos $285.00
1 Mana Crypt $139.95
1 Wasteland $59.99
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite $24.63
1 Grim Monolith $18.85
Wallet says no. :(
+Andreas Rossi You don't need any of those cards or the higher cost spells,they just slow the deck down.If you just focus on putting out tokens and pumping them you'll be fine.
Isochron Scepter on a cheap token generator.
2nd?
not a big fan oh him... Gisa is ultimately better.
Wedge.... Need.... Modern... Vids
paulkonerko2 Coming in the next few months. Many of them ;)
TheManaSource yessss
Archangel of Thune....
repeatable anthem.....
This deck is degenerate...