**Note: Just a side edit I was under the impression Retals was told BEFORE the V1 series but he was actually told after they were eliminated that series still during the tournament. I began this video prior to regional 1 so based off that and for that reason Karmine Corp is of course no longer speculated and is their roster for the fall split! Apologies for the confusion.
Leth is an incredibly smart and consistent player, but that's also kinda his downfall. Pros nowadays have to be able to not only make the right call every single time, they need to make it instinctively. Leth is very analytical in his play and it makes him slower than the opposition, even if just a bit
@@bogletastic9948 Commenting as he plays is a feat in itself, but I'm referring exclusively to his time as a pro and what we've seen relatively recently in more sweaty environs like scrims for SSG and such
Nice video! I would like to mention that Retals has confirmed that he did NOT find out he was being kicked before playing a series. He says he did find out mid-tournament, but that SSG was already out by then.
@@ChickenKhorma He does take himself very seriously and he has probably one of the biggest egos in the RL scene. Look at what happened after he beat First, he handled his loss against Chronic in the semi-finals of the Saltmine tournament in the most cringy way possible.
Good video. One thing about the situation with sypical is that his controller was not at fault. The admins' review concluded that he did push the button and the input went into the computer but the game itself didn't register. This has happened to other pros as well and is unrelated to his controller.
@@miquelmoorrees6010 I think he is but what I'm saying is that it's completely irrelevant. People are implying that because he messed with his controller it was broken and at fault for the error. The tournament admins have input logs though and they said that his controller properly output the input and that the computer registered the button press. According to them, the fault was with the game itself (which means that it would have happened with literally any other controller).
yeah I don't really get what the controversy was about. Even if it was a controller fault.. like is that really how you wanna win? In a kickoff your opponents literally can't even come challenge the ball so you score a freebie? It sucks to celebrate and then have the win taken away, but did they actually expect to get the win from that goal lol? clearly they could see the opponent didn't even reach the ball right? and resetting a kickoff is like one of the least disruptive moments to reset, it's not like they did some crazy play just to have it taken away
As a good friend of Luc, the situation with Prestige Esports actually made and still makes me so mad. After countless times of hearing or being told that Sworn may finally going to get pay his players’ salaries, he never ended up doing it and also deleted his social media to avoid contact by his players/staff. Sucks to see your friend being betrayed. It’s rare, in my opinion, to see a contact be violated by someone other than the signatory. Heartbreaking stuff.
About the Leth vs FK stuff, correct me if I'm wrong, saw it back in the day, but Leth needed to 3-0 for the #1 seed. So when FK won game 1, RIP sweep, it may as well have been over. The rest of the series was a formality. That's why Leth went clown car after.
I was at the 2022 Worlds in Texas and I left before BDS was crowned, not because I dislike them, but because the event was scheduled to finish around 4:30-5pm that day, but the grand finals didnt even start until 8pm. I think people were leaving early because the event went 3-4 hours over schedule and people needed to go home.
I'm from Kenya and I really don't understand why we're not allowed to compete while out neighbouring countries with less player bases are. Our country doesn't have strict rules against gaming since we recently participated in the commonwealth rocket league competition.
Not a smoking gun because his controller wasn't at fault. The admins' review concluded that he did push the button and the input went into the computer but the game itself didn't register. This has happened to other pros as well and is unrelated to his controller.
Great video. I’m actually shocked at how many countries r banned from rlcs it almost seems like a joke to me. Saw another ahmad (goes by a7md) who’s a very exciting 1s player and was excited to potentially see him in rlcs only to find out he can’t play because he’s from Iraq. And itachi got demoted because he played from Morocco? Like why, that just seems so unfair
A lot of it isn’t psyonix’s fault. The Morocco thing is probably an over enforcement of their rules but the Iraq thing has to do with sanctions against the country that psyonix has to follow by law
Psyonix doesn't have any choice in the matter, Iraq has international sanctions placed on them by the U.S. - Psyonix would be breaking the law by allowing Iraqi players to participate in RLCS because they're a U.S. based company, it's that simple. If they do want to play, there are ways around the sanction (hence how there are Iraqi players in MLS, etc, albeit very few) but it's a complicated process and has to be initiated by the player.
@@hamzazilani6398 A couple more examples are the Chinese government not allowing the "normal" version of Rocket League to be released there. Cuba should be obvious, they've been embargoed by the U.S. for decades. Morocco because of the West Sahara conflict. The Iraq sanction reasoning goes for Afghanistan, the Balkans, Belarus, Burma, Central African Republic, Cuba, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Mali, Nicaragua, North Korea, Russia, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, Venezuela, Yemen, and Zimbabwe too because they're all sanctioned by the U.S. as well. The rest are all just countries that there's no point going through getting tax/visa info for because the chances of a player being from there is slim to none - e.g. Antarctica, the Vatican City, etc.
as a queer person The topic of gamers8 is reeeeaaaaally problematic, not only bc it can very quickly just be using queer people as an excuse for racism, like I'm from Germany, I experience a lot of queerphobic behavior, it's not good here and a lot fking worse in America, so really cheap to be going "oh but this and that in those countries" I'm allowed to live here tho, so that's pretty cool So please if you do agree that Noah did the right thing, actually help queer people in your life bc otherwise you're just virtue signaling, go to pride if you have queer friends, don't tell your kid they're not trans, let them experience themselves, if that means take REVERSABLE MEDICATION (which is basically all btw) then let them, cool? cool. so would generally say it's a good move, however I hope this behavior of actually caring about queer ppl continues and isn't just a one time thing, bc otherwise yeah that's not a good look there
Sick video man. I think I had heard tidbits from all of these stories but you did a solid deep dive into them and it was interesting to hear all the behind the scenes stuff. I like how you threw pics of tweets in there too. To give an idea how the community was reacting at the time. Keep up the good work 😎
i agree with trashtalking being something that is just in videogames, especially pro play. in real sports pros shit talk all the time but when its done and over it should still be ggs all around. if the series is already won/lost then there is no reason to shit talk anymore.
In real sports pro's don't shit talk "all the time" (besides boxing/MMA) there are shit talkers in sports but they also get backlash when they go to far in it, if you believe he didn't go to far , agree to disagree I guess but your analogy makes no sense
The biggest controversy is why world championship is called world championship if players do not represent their national teams. In fact it's just another seasonal major.
They should make national teams representing actual countries, that way we would avoid teams named “OhMyDog” or “Team Queso”. 😂 Though France would be simply too OP, having Kaydop, Vatira, M0nkey M00n and Zen in the same team, being coached by Fairy Peak is no joke.
Not as big as these, but the Australian leagues had some weird controversies back when it was broadcast on TV. Particularly the team called Melbourne Order. It lead to several big names from their team breaking off and forming a new team.
Heya love the video I only mean this as a advice, it was kinda hard to follow when each point started maybe add a numeric system or just saying it might help. But the video was amazing
I still think it is insane how made Firstkiller got that Leth wasn’t taking it was seriously as he wanted. He could have smashed him 20-0 if he truly believed that, but instead he wanted to type and complain. So strange to me after all these years.
I was there In Texas at the finals I had left early but the reason why I left early was due to this being a recent high school graduate and never having planned a trip on my own before I jad a flight a 7:30 and my hotel had my stuff and was on the opposite side of fortworth I had soo much fucking fun getting to meet sunless in the lobby meeting critikal and watching my favorite game at a Lan It fucking fun even if the summer heat of Texas was unbearable for my northern Michigan ass either way I had to miss the finals and I was really sad but also really happy that I was able to save enough from working during school and over the summer hope there is another major in the us that I can go to
I was at the RLCS finals and we left before the games with G2 and BDS even started. The event went way later than it was supposed to and the time between games was miserable. We would have stayed had our group not had to drive three hours back to Austin and go to work the next day. Great event but could be better for sure.
The not paying is so disgusting cause there’s really nothing you can do about it. If they owe you 5k-10k there’s no point to take legal action cause by time you do and IF you win you really aren’t gaining much if any at all
A lot of those “banned” countries don’t even allow rocket league in their markets. With the exceptions most likely of China, Russia, & Iran, the US isn’t in the habit of randomly sanctioning nations.
How is the Vatira - Aztral swap "a downgrade for both teams" ? Aztral is a beast and has the experience that Vatira doesn't and i'm sure Moist will still perform this year. Karmine Corp just got one of the best players itw and a perfect addition to Itachi's gameplay, and the new team looks stronger than the previous Itachi-Noly-Aztral that was arguably a top 5 teams itw at the end of last season. I get that ppl are sad because they liked this Moist trio and doubt Vatira's decision due to him being only 16yo. But personnally i respect him a lot for having the courage to start over from 0 and train/improve again with a new team after being so close to win Worlds with Moist. The kid literally joined the org he's a fan of and is trying to live his dream of winning Worlds in his "dream org", this alone should be enough to consider his move worth it whatever happens this season.
the aztral swap is a downgrade for moist. but they still made top 4 twice so far which is solid. Karmine corp did make a grand finals and then win the regional yesterday tho.
@@CaptainSkyMT Probably a small downgrade for Moist y given how insane Vatira has been looking so far. But in the end, Karmine Corp is #1 in Europe and the only team that knocked out Moist out of the regionals this season is... Karmine Corp. So yeah my point was more like :"trust Vatira he knows what he's doing and also trust Aztral he's a good player"
i know this is almost 2 years old but other regions can’t compete because 1. they don’t like epic so they don’t allow rocket league to be downloaded and 2. they have bigger laws on prize money than the countries that can compete.
Great video! This was the first video of yours I’ve seen, but If you ever do one of these type videos again, I would recommend you consider having some type of transition or pause between topics, it’s a small nitpick but figured I’d give you my feedback. Keep it up
I like comm but he did exactly what moist did to them, so he lied when he said he would never do that. He trash talked and continuously kicked into ssg after v1 4-1 or 4-0 ssg. (not sure which exactly). To make matters worse, that same series arsenal was puking blood after every match. If it isn't okay when it happens to you, then why do it to others?
Why didn’t you mention Moist’s follow up to Noah’s tweet? I believe they clarified that they just didn’t want to go because of the 2s and 1v1 format, the moral reason wasn’t the biggest part, even the coach apologized for the tweet for some reason
@@frost2272 The point is though that the coach lied and tried to make a political statement out of it, and trying to look like some kind of moralist by stating that. I however don't think that the reason you listed warrants an apology at all. Religion is not some kind of end-all excuse to rationalize every sort of behavior. Not every Muslim majority country issues the death penalty to gay people, but SA is one of them that has in the past. I think that it is a pretty good reason for a gay person not wanting to be associated with those types of countries right...? Similarly to you I could say that a country not wanting to associate with a whole sexuality deserves an apology. Morals are subjective at the end of the day.
@@garybuttherissilent5896 yes but they already said yes, like its so unprofessional is the problem, if you have a problem with their beliefs than keep it to yourself IMO
the worlds final just was not entertaining and i blame it on the bracket. it should have stayed double elim so that the actual best two teams make the grand finals. g2 got absolutely demolished and i feel a team more used to playing bds would have done better. idk if it’s just me but that bracket just pissed me off. like moist going out to furia right when it wasn’t double elim anymore was just so stupid.
Yeah although I prefer single elim sometimes it allows a team that no one would honestly call top 2 to make it to the finals. I mean g2 literally played an na regional to get to the finals 😂
@@blakxnz I know they want two different regions in the finals but I think it was pretty lame that we had region teamkilling in quarters. Not sure how they decide the seeds but I really think seeding shouldn't matter at all by world's playoff rounds.
usually your vids are so accurate but this was sad. Should have been titled biggest controversies of the 21-22 year of rl. plus most of these were just extremely petty banter or roster moves that could easily be topped by stuff that went down for the 6 years before this vid essentially takes place. And ik that the first/leth "drama" was in there but that's literally only one. didn't mean to come across as harsh here just stating my opinion, i think it'd get resolved if you changed the title, unlikely as that is.
9 months late, but I wonder if part of why certain countries aren't allowed to participate has anything to do with potentially having to fly out those players from said countries? I heard one of the reasons some regions don't get more major spots is because it costs significantly more to fly teams out of their countries. I haven't confirmed this info, but it seemed plausible.
Im not sure about the others, some countries aren’t allowed to play the game online.. its part of the US sanctions which I don’t understand, its just a game after all
This isn't mentioned about the first situation; what caused even more controversy is that Rise tweeted out that Moist didn't actually drop out from the tournament due to LGBT discrimination issues from SA but due to other reasons. Of course, Twitter and Reddit took it upon themselves to complain about Rise making that statement, deeming him edgy and -phobic. While in reality, their coach Noah capitalized on the situation to push his political narrative under false pretenses.
That crowd leaving early controversy is so dumb lol people leave all the time during sports matches if their teams losing and there’s little time left and unless I’m out of the loop that’s never been a controversy
I’m surprised that the scrubkilla & tho situation wasn’t put in here ,because them also being on guild and having controversies along with the past in tho trolling scrub on stream. Unless you addressed it in another vid. The sizz vs chrome vids also a classic among it’s time. One part about the vid that doesn’t make since is why did first get even mad in the first place leth can do what he wants 😂. The fact he bring up that he was wearing a scarab as a excuse for a reason why he lost like he pulled that from literally nowhere.
Tbh it's so annoying how rocket league just lets sypical have a controller that barely works I don't think sypical faked the controller disconnect but he should be punished for constantly interrupting play of the game and being to stubborn to just use a regular controller
Kinda weird in this video how different some perspectives are, 13:02 “just because EU cheers for everyone doesn’t mean that that should then be forced into Americans” but at the same time 2:36 “if you are coming to a Muslim country you have to respect”. Why should one culture be able to force something onto another but another culture shouldn’t be able to force theirs onto one? Then again I won’t get too much into politics and cultures cuz that will be a whole rabbit hole of hell in the end.
others: atomic (not atomik) saying n word, aztral being kicked from dig for being toxic, and SRG failing to get visas and then disbanding. And then I know this was a list of pro rocket league stuff but there are a bunch of controversies in the freestyling community as well: freestylers slowing down their clips w bm and then speeding it up, shimmy editing replays, OSM and others leaving Pulse, rocket league banning freestyles for throwing casual games to lover their casual mmr
@ShadowR hey I just wanted to ask if you could do a video on female players in the Rocket League pro scene.I think that female players often go overlooked in competitive gaming in general, and I think that you would be the right person to put a video out that would be interesting and enlightening on the topic. Much love
Esports is a meritocracy which preserves competitive integrity. No one pays attention to the WCB players because they are not good enough for pro level. There's no reason why girls can't compete, I'm sure they're strong enough to twiddle some joysticks 😂. There isn't a significant advantage for men like there is in traditional sports though you could argue that men's reaction times are quicker.
@@Heatwave9000 you're not wrong ngl. I just wanted to see ShadowR make a video on it because it would be entertaining. I like watching videos that explore the smaller niche communities in the RL community, (like Sunless' video on the rumble mains) so it would at least be cool to see ShadowR make a video on WCB.
If u as a competitor want me to cheer for u when u win even tho the team i wanted to win lost. Ur not a competitor im gonna be sad mad and angry that my team lost. I really dont care about any other team other then who im rooting for unless that team winning or losing can effect the bracket for my team. If ur playing a 1v1 game do u want ur enemy to win? No if u lose u shake hands say gg and go be mad for a bit
I believe admins could keep the same level of secrecy as the underage player trying to sneak in rlcs games. Unprofessional, but if you're a kid looking to be a pro, then be more professional about your career choice.
Vatira had an amazing team an amazing org with a great owner a insannee fanbase lots if love and they had just started he could have just got used to the languages
Comm drives me nuts, not because of his play style, being good at and smart with your demos is a good way to win in my book, but his trash talk and general attitude just makes him unwatchable to me. I just don't watch his matches. I felt the same way for team queso, I don't mind some trash talk but it gets to a point where it drives me nuts to watch. I guess usually it's because it reminds me of bullying rather than competitive banter.
All the comments roasting the Moist coach for his decision. Many physical sport athletes have done the same thing. It’s reasonable to refuse to participate in an event hosted by a country with human rights issues
I'm from Ukraine 🇺🇦 I'm shocked that Ukraine can't compete in RLCS. I was grinding since free to play, not very long, obviously, but I really wanted to become at least a bubble player. I'm very disappointed, since Ukraine is actually Europe. If that's the case, Finland should also be restricted. That way we will never see Metsanauris or Mognus on the World stage. So disappointed
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**Note: Just a side edit I was under the impression Retals was told BEFORE the V1 series but he was actually told after they were eliminated that series still during the tournament. I began this video prior to regional 1 so based off that and for that reason Karmine Corp is of course no longer speculated and is their roster for the fall split! Apologies for the confusion.
that info has been out for a month but yet you still upload the video?
@@thepokemonpowerhouse5562 it's okay just chill
@@tysulliii889 do you like men? Cause it looks like you like men!
@@thepokemonpowerhouse5562 who?
@@tysulliii889 it’s ok to like men dude
I feel like leth definitely still has what it takes to hang in rlcs, him tilting fisrtkiller and then just smacking him was perfect.
Ik right
@@ishytamephoenix nah 1s is a different style to 3s. He can compete in 1s but I doubt he could in 3s
Leth is an incredibly smart and consistent player, but that's also kinda his downfall. Pros nowadays have to be able to not only make the right call every single time, they need to make it instinctively. Leth is very analytical in his play and it makes him slower than the opposition, even if just a bit
@@Astraben thats because he is commenting on it, im sure if he concentrated properly that wouldnt be an issue
@@bogletastic9948 Commenting as he plays is a feat in itself, but I'm referring exclusively to his time as a pro and what we've seen relatively recently in more sweaty environs like scrims for SSG and such
Nice video! I would like to mention that Retals has confirmed that he did NOT find out he was being kicked before playing a series. He says he did find out mid-tournament, but that SSG was already out by then.
Right. I had noted that he was told before the V1 series when in reality it was after.
Wouldnt that just destroy his confidence? He wouldn’t have tried his best
@@B2ClippedIt he was done playing before he knew though so he played normal
According to his video discussing the sordid exercise, he found out about his removal during the Grand Finals.
Daaammnn Leth is the most wholesome, friendly player probably ever. That he destroyed first after him being salty is really really funny imo.
I'm not sure about friendly and wholesome lol
@@migueljuarez6788 atleast he doesn't take himself too seriously 🤷♂️
@@migueljuarez6788 he is lol
@@ChickenKhorma He does take himself very seriously and he has probably one of the biggest egos in the RL scene. Look at what happened after he beat First, he handled his loss against Chronic in the semi-finals of the Saltmine tournament in the most cringy way possible.
Good video. One thing about the situation with sypical is that his controller was not at fault. The admins' review concluded that he did push the button and the input went into the computer but the game itself didn't register. This has happened to other pros as well and is unrelated to his controller.
Isn't he known for modding his controllers?
@@miquelmoorrees6010 I think he is but what I'm saying is that it's completely irrelevant. People are implying that because he messed with his controller it was broken and at fault for the error. The tournament admins have input logs though and they said that his controller properly output the input and that the computer registered the button press. According to them, the fault was with the game itself (which means that it would have happened with literally any other controller).
yeah I don't really get what the controversy was about. Even if it was a controller fault..
like is that really how you wanna win? In a kickoff your opponents literally can't even come challenge the ball so you score a freebie? It sucks to celebrate and then have the win taken away, but did they actually expect to get the win from that goal lol? clearly they could see the opponent didn't even reach the ball right? and resetting a kickoff is like one of the least disruptive moments to reset, it's not like they did some crazy play just to have it taken away
As a good friend of Luc, the situation with Prestige Esports actually made and still makes me so mad. After countless times of hearing or being told that Sworn may finally going to get pay his players’ salaries, he never ended up doing it and also deleted his social media to avoid contact by his players/staff. Sucks to see your friend being betrayed. It’s rare, in my opinion, to see a contact be violated by someone other than the signatory. Heartbreaking stuff.
About the Leth vs FK stuff, correct me if I'm wrong, saw it back in the day, but Leth needed to 3-0 for the #1 seed. So when FK won game 1, RIP sweep, it may as well have been over. The rest of the series was a formality. That's why Leth went clown car after.
Leth vs firstkiller is legendary.
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I was at the 2022 Worlds in Texas and I left before BDS was crowned, not because I dislike them, but because the event was scheduled to finish around 4:30-5pm that day, but the grand finals didnt even start until 8pm. I think people were leaving early because the event went 3-4 hours over schedule and people needed to go home.
I'm from Kenya and I really don't understand why we're not allowed to compete while out neighbouring countries with less player bases are. Our country doesn't have strict rules against gaming since we recently participated in the commonwealth rocket league competition.
That Salt mine, b/w Leth and First. Leth made First eat his own words lmao
craaazy when it first happened
Oh lmao, I didn't expect to be in this video at 10:25. Glad u covered that topic up in this video and great documentary as always, keep it up!
Yesssir, thanks!
Leth trolled first so hard and it was hilarious
sypical with the custom controller mods is 100% a smoking gun here
very untalked about imo
Dk why this isn't talked about regularly by now, since his controller caused him to win🤷. Seems admins have a crush on someone 🤔🤔
Not a smoking gun because his controller wasn't at fault. The admins' review concluded that he did push the button and the input went into the computer but the game itself didn't register. This has happened to other pros as well and is unrelated to his controller.
Great video. I’m actually shocked at how many countries r banned from rlcs it almost seems like a joke to me. Saw another ahmad (goes by a7md) who’s a very exciting 1s player and was excited to potentially see him in rlcs only to find out he can’t play because he’s from Iraq. And itachi got demoted because he played from Morocco? Like why, that just seems so unfair
Thank you! Yeppp Itachi played EU RLCS in Morocco so they got DQd. I'm very interested to hear all the reasons but there isn't much info
A lot of it isn’t psyonix’s fault. The Morocco thing is probably an over enforcement of their rules but the Iraq thing has to do with sanctions against the country that psyonix has to follow by law
Psyonix doesn't have any choice in the matter, Iraq has international sanctions placed on them by the U.S. - Psyonix would be breaking the law by allowing Iraqi players to participate in RLCS because they're a U.S. based company, it's that simple. If they do want to play, there are ways around the sanction (hence how there are Iraqi players in MLS, etc, albeit very few) but it's a complicated process and has to be initiated by the player.
@@RangersGirlJackie99 ok but that’s only one country, wb the others
@@hamzazilani6398 A couple more examples are the Chinese government not allowing the "normal" version of Rocket League to be released there. Cuba should be obvious, they've been embargoed by the U.S. for decades. Morocco because of the West Sahara conflict. The Iraq sanction reasoning goes for Afghanistan, the Balkans, Belarus, Burma, Central African Republic, Cuba, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Mali, Nicaragua, North Korea, Russia, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, Venezuela, Yemen, and Zimbabwe too because they're all sanctioned by the U.S. as well. The rest are all just countries that there's no point going through getting tax/visa info for because the chances of a player being from there is slim to none - e.g. Antarctica, the Vatican City, etc.
as a queer person
The topic of gamers8 is reeeeaaaaally problematic, not only bc it can very quickly just be using queer people as an excuse for racism, like I'm from Germany, I experience a lot of queerphobic behavior, it's not good here and a lot fking worse in America, so really cheap to be going "oh but this and that in those countries"
I'm allowed to live here tho, so that's pretty cool
So please if you do agree that Noah did the right thing, actually help queer people in your life bc otherwise you're just virtue signaling, go to pride if you have queer friends, don't tell your kid they're not trans, let them experience themselves, if that means take REVERSABLE MEDICATION (which is basically all btw) then let them, cool? cool.
so would generally say it's a good move, however I hope this behavior of actually caring about queer ppl continues and isn't just a one time thing, bc otherwise yeah that's not a good look there
This video was really well put together! Keep up the work man!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sick video man. I think I had heard tidbits from all of these stories but you did a solid deep dive into them and it was interesting to hear all the behind the scenes stuff. I like how you threw pics of tweets in there too. To give an idea how the community was reacting at the time. Keep up the good work 😎
Thank you! Sick badge next to ur name btw;)
This vid was so well done, you deserve way more views and subscribers. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
Great video. Nice job going through the video while transitioning from topic to topic easily. Made the video really entertaining and fun to watch
i agree with trashtalking being something that is just in videogames, especially pro play. in real sports pros shit talk all the time but when its done and over it should still be ggs all around. if the series is already won/lost then there is no reason to shit talk anymore.
In real sports pro's don't shit talk "all the time" (besides boxing/MMA) there are shit talkers in sports but they also get backlash when they go to far in it, if you believe he didn't go to far , agree to disagree I guess but your analogy makes no sense
Watching this after karmine won the winter major makes the vatira move age so well
The biggest controversy is why world championship is called world championship if players do not represent their national teams. In fact it's just another seasonal major.
I mean they do the same thing in baseball. It’s called the World Series even though most of the world isn’t even included in it.
They should make national teams representing actual countries, that way we would avoid teams named “OhMyDog” or “Team Queso”. 😂
Though France would be simply too OP, having Kaydop, Vatira, M0nkey M00n and Zen in the same team, being coached by Fairy Peak is no joke.
Not as big as these, but the Australian leagues had some weird controversies back when it was broadcast on TV. Particularly the team called Melbourne Order. It lead to several big names from their team breaking off and forming a new team.
Heya love the video I only mean this as a advice, it was kinda hard to follow when each point started maybe add a numeric system or just saying it might help. But the video was amazing
I still think it is insane how made Firstkiller got that Leth wasn’t taking it was seriously as he wanted. He could have smashed him 20-0 if he truly believed that, but instead he wanted to type and complain. So strange to me after all these years.
Vatira team switch is aging like fine wine right now
You smashed it bro, love it
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10:18 mans really said "nuhwippoh" LMAO
shiiiiiii
To be fair Lethamyr does have a history of making up excuses on 1v1 losses
Cloud 9 back in the days hit me different...
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Great video, keep it up!
Thanks harv:)
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You hear that? Watching ShadowR gives you a girlfriend??
@@ShadowReformed lol
Great video, also a good summary of what happened with Prestige as well.
I was there In Texas at the finals I had left early but the reason why I left early was due to this being a recent high school graduate and never having planned a trip on my own before I jad a flight a 7:30 and my hotel had my stuff and was on the opposite side of fortworth I had soo much fucking fun getting to meet sunless in the lobby meeting critikal and watching my favorite game at a Lan It fucking fun even if the summer heat of Texas was unbearable for my northern Michigan ass either way I had to miss the finals and I was really sad but also really happy that I was able to save enough from working during school and over the summer hope there is another major in the us that I can go to
Leth is a legend
I was at the RLCS finals and we left before the games with G2 and BDS even started. The event went way later than it was supposed to and the time between games was miserable. We would have stayed had our group not had to drive three hours back to Austin and go to work the next day. Great event but could be better for sure.
Idk i feel like of the 10 most controversial things to happen in rl i doubt that 8/9 of them happened within the same ræcs season.
Great video! Keep up the god tier work
Appreciate it!
As someone who’s never watched a game of Rocket League be played this video was a very good watch, good video.
The not paying is so disgusting cause there’s really nothing you can do about it. If they owe you 5k-10k there’s no point to take legal action cause by time you do and IF you win you really aren’t gaining much if any at all
A lot of those “banned” countries don’t even allow rocket league in their markets. With the exceptions most likely of China, Russia, & Iran, the US isn’t in the habit of randomly sanctioning nations.
This content is very needed in rl is very need keep it up!
More soon!
How is the Vatira - Aztral swap "a downgrade for both teams" ? Aztral is a beast and has the experience that Vatira doesn't and i'm sure Moist will still perform this year. Karmine Corp just got one of the best players itw and a perfect addition to Itachi's gameplay, and the new team looks stronger than the previous Itachi-Noly-Aztral that was arguably a top 5 teams itw at the end of last season.
I get that ppl are sad because they liked this Moist trio and doubt Vatira's decision due to him being only 16yo. But personnally i respect him a lot for having the courage to start over from 0 and train/improve again with a new team after being so close to win Worlds with Moist.
The kid literally joined the org he's a fan of and is trying to live his dream of winning Worlds in his "dream org", this alone should be enough to consider his move worth it whatever happens this season.
the aztral swap is a downgrade for moist. but they still made top 4 twice so far which is solid. Karmine corp did make a grand finals and then win the regional yesterday tho.
@@CaptainSkyMT Probably a small downgrade for Moist y given how insane Vatira has been looking so far.
But in the end, Karmine Corp is #1 in Europe and the only team that knocked out Moist out of the regionals this season is... Karmine Corp. So yeah my point was more like :"trust Vatira he knows what he's doing and also trust Aztral he's a good player"
i know this is almost 2 years old but other regions can’t compete because 1. they don’t like epic so they don’t allow rocket league to be downloaded and 2. they have bigger laws on prize money than the countries that can compete.
great video Shadow
Thanks Barry:D
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1:44 that tweet ages wel btw
First killer getting in his own head while literally winning makes me lose so much respect for him
soft he was just a kid bud not that serious
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Great video! This was the first video of yours I’ve seen, but If you ever do one of these type videos again, I would recommend you consider having some type of transition or pause between topics, it’s a small nitpick but figured I’d give you my feedback. Keep it up
I like comm but he did exactly what moist did to them, so he lied when he said he would never do that. He trash talked and continuously kicked into ssg after v1 4-1 or 4-0 ssg. (not sure which exactly). To make matters worse, that same series arsenal was puking blood after every match. If it isn't okay when it happens to you, then why do it to others?
I just randomly clicked ur video on my recommended, it was so weird seeing my comment in it lol
Ahah I've gotten that before
Tip for all players, never shit talk Leth
If I ran a sports league, I'd do everything in my power to keep that league a million miles away from Saudi Arabia.
4:30 So he can deal it but he can't taking, how shocking
Leth, what a legend!
Karmine corp just won over faze recently
We will see how the major goes but Vatira's move ended up panning out well for him
Hes back! ran into you in ranked like 2 weeks ago
Why didn’t you mention Moist’s follow up to Noah’s tweet? I believe they clarified that they just didn’t want to go because of the 2s and 1v1 format, the moral reason wasn’t the biggest part, even the coach apologized for the tweet for some reason
Not associating with a whole country because of their religion deserves an apology I'd say
@@frost2272 The point is though that the coach lied and tried to make a political statement out of it, and trying to look like some kind of moralist by stating that. I however don't think that the reason you listed warrants an apology at all. Religion is not some kind of end-all excuse to rationalize every sort of behavior. Not every Muslim majority country issues the death penalty to gay people, but SA is one of them that has in the past. I think that it is a pretty good reason for a gay person not wanting to be associated with those types of countries right...? Similarly to you I could say that a country not wanting to associate with a whole sexuality deserves an apology. Morals are subjective at the end of the day.
@@garybuttherissilent5896 yes but they already said yes, like its so unprofessional is the problem, if you have a problem with their beliefs than keep it to yourself IMO
@@frost2272 it absolutely don't deserve it
the worlds final just was not entertaining and i blame it on the bracket. it should have stayed double elim so that the actual best two teams make the grand finals. g2 got absolutely demolished and i feel a team more used to playing bds would have done better. idk if it’s just me but that bracket just pissed me off. like moist going out to furia right when it wasn’t double elim anymore was just so stupid.
Yeah although I prefer single elim sometimes it allows a team that no one would honestly call top 2 to make it to the finals. I mean g2 literally played an na regional to get to the finals 😂
@@Heatwave9000 it was so bad. yeah bds was good but they were not fucking every other team the way they did to g2.
@@blakxnz I know they want two different regions in the finals but I think it was pretty lame that we had region teamkilling in quarters. Not sure how they decide the seeds but I really think seeding shouldn't matter at all by world's playoff rounds.
usually your vids are so accurate but this was sad. Should have been titled biggest controversies of the 21-22 year of rl. plus most of these were just extremely petty banter or roster moves that could easily be topped by stuff that went down for the 6 years before this vid essentially takes place. And ik that the first/leth "drama" was in there but that's literally only one. didn't mean to come across as harsh here just stating my opinion, i think it'd get resolved if you changed the title, unlikely as that is.
9 months late, but I wonder if part of why certain countries aren't allowed to participate has anything to do with potentially having to fly out those players from said countries? I heard one of the reasons some regions don't get more major spots is because it costs significantly more to fly teams out of their countries. I haven't confirmed this info, but it seemed plausible.
Im not sure about the others, some countries aren’t allowed to play the game online.. its part of the US sanctions which I don’t understand, its just a game after all
5:08 Retals said that he found after they were out of the tournament actually
Correct^ He was told after V1 series and not before.
This isn't mentioned about the first situation; what caused even more controversy is that Rise tweeted out that Moist didn't actually drop out from the tournament due to LGBT discrimination issues from SA but due to other reasons. Of course, Twitter and Reddit took it upon themselves to complain about Rise making that statement, deeming him edgy and -phobic. While in reality, their coach Noah capitalized on the situation to push his political narrative under false pretenses.
That's how those types roll
I have never seen charlie do the twist, very cool kanye
That crowd leaving early controversy is so dumb lol people leave all the time during sports matches if their teams losing and there’s little time left and unless I’m out of the loop that’s never been a controversy
its crazy cause vatira is doing much better with karmine then he ever was with moist
Leth beating firstkiller after he kept crying, and firstkiller not saying GG afterwards, was SO satisfying. Salty kid lol
Comm can dish out trash talk but can’t take it. Hypocritical 💀
you should just name the video controversies in rlcs 2021-22 , not history
You could make a salty scandal video with faze vs NRG, comm vs his opponents, these perms banned players and stuff
I do have a "disrespectful moments" and "banned players" video that covers some stuff not on here!
i like how ppl prayed on vatira downfall, and now his team is pretty much #1
Haven't watched yet but I hope you mentioned Rapid scamming people before he was pro
3:17 poor ReaLize he just wanted to ride a camel
Nice video bro. Would love to see more like it
100%
How is Noah's tweet about Saudi Arabia controversial exactly?
Because bigots still exist
I’m surprised that the scrubkilla & tho situation wasn’t put in here ,because them also being on guild and having controversies along with the past in tho trolling scrub on stream. Unless you addressed it in another vid. The sizz vs chrome vids also a classic among it’s time. One part about the vid that doesn’t make since is why did first get even mad in the first place leth can do what he wants 😂. The fact he bring up that he was wearing a scarab as a excuse for a reason why he lost like he pulled that from literally nowhere.
You got it lol, only reason is cause it's featured in my "disrespectful moments" video
Tbh it's so annoying how rocket league just lets sypical have a controller that barely works I don't think sypical faked the controller disconnect but he should be punished for constantly interrupting play of the game and being to stubborn to just use a regular controller
You can't play the heel then get sad when you get booed.
Kinda weird in this video how different some perspectives are, 13:02 “just because EU cheers for everyone doesn’t mean that that should then be forced into Americans” but at the same time 2:36 “if you are coming to a Muslim country you have to respect”. Why should one culture be able to force something onto another but another culture shouldn’t be able to force theirs onto one? Then again I won’t get too much into politics and cultures cuz that will be a whole rabbit hole of hell in the end.
you should record in mono for next time👍
2:24 W Country
Cringe 💀
@@xllWarlockllx yo are for saying it
@@sifou0550
Nah, a country that treats like a joke the rights of people other than men is cringe 💀.
@@sifou0550 incel take
Yeah, LGBTQ is just degenerate
others: atomic (not atomik) saying n word, aztral being kicked from dig for being toxic, and SRG failing to get visas and then disbanding. And then I know this was a list of pro rocket league stuff but there are a bunch of controversies in the freestyling community as well: freestylers slowing down their clips w bm and then speeding it up, shimmy editing replays, OSM and others leaving Pulse, rocket league banning freestyles for throwing casual games to lover their casual mmr
Vatira laughing rn
Honestly glad leth destroyed firstkiller lol
@ShadowR hey I just wanted to ask if you could do a video on female players in the Rocket League pro scene.I think that female players often go overlooked in competitive gaming in general, and I think that you would be the right person to put a video out that would be interesting and enlightening on the topic. Much love
Already on my ideas list! Definitely something very uncovered in the scene.
They're overlooked for the same reason the WNBA is overlooked. They aren't any good.
Esports is a meritocracy which preserves competitive integrity. No one pays attention to the WCB players because they are not good enough for pro level. There's no reason why girls can't compete, I'm sure they're strong enough to twiddle some joysticks 😂. There isn't a significant advantage for men like there is in traditional sports though you could argue that men's reaction times are quicker.
@@Heatwave9000 you're not wrong ngl. I just wanted to see ShadowR make a video on it because it would be entertaining. I like watching videos that explore the smaller niche communities in the RL community, (like Sunless' video on the rumble mains) so it would at least be cool to see ShadowR make a video on WCB.
Everyone was talking shit about Vatira and KCorp and now they are a top3 team in the world xd
If u as a competitor want me to cheer for u when u win even tho the team i wanted to win lost. Ur not a competitor im gonna be sad mad and angry that my team lost. I really dont care about any other team other then who im rooting for unless that team winning or losing can effect the bracket for my team. If ur playing a 1v1 game do u want ur enemy to win? No if u lose u shake hands say gg and go be mad for a bit
I believe admins could keep the same level of secrecy as the underage player trying to sneak in rlcs games. Unprofessional, but if you're a kid looking to be a pro, then be more professional about your career choice.
1:43 bruh
1:44 🤣🤣
Cool video but maybe leave the tweets up for more than half a second lol I had to pause it 20 times to read the tweets
Vatira had an amazing team an amazing org with a great owner a insannee fanbase lots if love and they had just started he could have just got used to the languages
Comm drives me nuts, not because of his play style, being good at and smart with your demos is a good way to win in my book, but his trash talk and general attitude just makes him unwatchable to me. I just don't watch his matches. I felt the same way for team queso, I don't mind some trash talk but it gets to a point where it drives me nuts to watch. I guess usually it's because it reminds me of bullying rather than competitive banter.
All the comments roasting the Moist coach for his decision. Many physical sport athletes have done the same thing. It’s reasonable to refuse to participate in an event hosted by a country with human rights issues
america is a terrorist country with human rights issues. you are fine with them not saying anything about partaking in tournaments in america?
@@po-fc9bn I can see terrorist, but what human rights issues outside of the recent abortion bans?
@@kingofgrim4761 the fact that black people have to protest and riot on the streets just to let people know that they are human beings too
I like this itachi character seems cool to me
this is just the biggest controversies in PRO rocket league history. Not RL in general :/
I'm from Ukraine 🇺🇦
I'm shocked that Ukraine can't compete in RLCS. I was grinding since free to play, not very long, obviously, but I really wanted to become at least a bubble player. I'm very disappointed, since Ukraine is actually Europe. If that's the case, Finland should also be restricted. That way we will never see Metsanauris or Mognus on the World stage. So disappointed
It’s not that they won’t let you compete, you guys just have nobody remotely good enough to play that high level 💀
@@penguindew No I believe Ukraine is ineligible to compete meaning they wouldn't be allowed to even if pros lived there
Didn’t navi compete in rlcs for a bit being a Ukrainian org?
@@hamzazilani6398 with spanish players
@@penguindew we have rank x players. We dont lack skills bud. There arent many, but there are, trust me