I wanted to share my observations on the Immacuclean solution. I’ve used it on several eras of paper at this point with varied results. One commonality is that it does do a good job at getting dirt off the covers. I use a 3.5% solution with cotton round followed by 1 wipe of Di-ionized water, let it dry by hanging off a ledge (usually I am only needing to clean back covers as fronts I do manually). Then a second wipe with DI water and a second dry before Pressing. 10 Silver age Tales of Suspense (1967) issues lost some cover luster. They still look good but comparing to identical issues I dry cleaned, you can see a loss of gloss. Also, there is a change in the way the page feels - just slightly rougher or drier similar to running your finger along a piece of chalk. Bronze age issues came out great. I did a half dozen DC’s from 1971 then blew through 12 issues from 1977 in no time and they all came out looking great. No change in luster or feel. However, 2 Tomb of Dracula Evel Kneivel covers (issues 16 and 17) had different results. One was still glossy, the other slightly less so, like the 60’s issues mentioned above. I tried it on a 2013 Avengers mostly white cover and interestingly enough it ended up similar to the 1967 issues with a nice white color but a loss in gloss and tactile feel. Almost like the Alkalinity changed? Anyway, I gotta give the thumbs up for the most part. As is often said “Practice on junk books!” Just sometimes hard to find old junk books to practice on! And once again a shout out for the chamfered boards. They are awesome on every era I’ve tried them on. Thanks!
This is such good info Johnny, thank you so much. Silver age books are sometime impervious to harm and look great and other times lose gloss and other times lose color. I just cleaned three copies of Avengers #8 and they each had different effects. Similar to your experiences. Bronze age books largely behave about the same so I suspect it may be age-related, but I really dont know. Tha chamfered boards have been a boon for the industry. I just wish I didnt have to make 3-4 to get one good one!
I saw someone else use a blue LED light to help with that yellowing. Love seeing the results of your projects. I plan to pick some up when I get brave enough to start cleaning, and when I actually get a press.
Hi and thanks for asking . You can find links to immacuclean here www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=579634074&hl=en-us&sxsrf=AM9HkKm5oj8XoMj0WIY_tRAUTOKuDTl0Yg%3A1699202550547&q=Mill%20Geek%20Comics&ludocid=11017594651653679401&ibp=gwp%3B0%2C7&lsig=AB86z5ULinJ6DFYwP9oiVflhaATe&kgs=6431dc54c3a96770&shndl=-1&source=sh%2Fx%2Floc%2Fact%2Fm1%2Fcan%2F3&asid=canlbse
@@ImmaculateComics as much as i enjoy laughing, you are on to something, id definitely reduce the concentration and change the method of appliccation if i wete to try it myself,its ability to clean is aparent. I am interrsted in buying a few things from your shop which I probably will do shortly so, please, dont take offense to me seeing the comedy in all this! I support what you do
@@handrewmillan4293 my friend , I’ve learned to have thick skins and communicate through kindness if I’m going to be my genuine flawed self online. Thanks for your encouragement! Rick
for those that have trouble with metric units of measure 190 mililitres is about 6 fluid ounces and 3ml is just over a half teaspoon, so if you mix a half teaspoon of immaculaclean concentrate with 6 ounces of water, your solution will be about right.
Nice video, I use 6mil for my stronger & 3mil for my regular strength. I still do a rub after with just DW to guarantee no residue is left over on the surface of the Comic, clean, clean & more clean is my motto. You are using more pressure then I am but I like the results at whatever pressure.
John, I am trying your idea of using my small tack iron to warm the comic prior to using immaculean and so far the results have been amazing! Of course the comic I am currently working on has a subscription crease so it will never be above a vg/fn, but just wanted to give a thanks for that tip!
@@KollectingKaos John and I laugh about how we often get to the same place through difference avenues. I will sometime place a preheated aluminum board on my comics before using immacuclean. John had that same idea from a different perspective, which is kismet in my opinion!
@@ImmaculateComics I had been thinking about picking up a small travel iron to preheat the comics before cleaning and I may still do that. But for small creases in the cover or indent's it's hard to beat a tack iron.
That will work but warming a thick sheet of steel or aluminum in an over it a heat press works better ( more even and better temp control! and it’s easier too!
I made up a medium-strength one.. kind of surprised how strong it is it will even take the colour off with very very limited effort.. and I usually have to go back and rinse with distilled water... but definitely removes a lot of dirt.. but also takes the gloss off the page
You may profit from you need a lot more learning and practice time. ImmacuClean can remove some ink but its relatively rate a more pronounced on specific books. ImmacuClean can enhance the gloss on a book or detract from the reflectivity depending on how you perform your cleaning and your pressing, combined with the amount of kaolite used in the ink and paper of any particular books. Just as many examples of enhancing gloss can be reported as those detracting from gloss and a significant factor is how it is cleaned and pressed. a parametric factor is the book itself, and another factor is the immacuclean itself, naturally. Its a complex system and just stating the any one factor is what led to that particular response is nearly impossible. Keep practicing and see if you agree with me. Also, have fun!
Rick, per your written instructions "When first learning, it is recommended to use one bottle per 1000ml (35g/l or 3.5%). In a 200ml bottle use 7-10ml of ImmacuClean Concentrate tp 190-193ml of water and mix well." Read it yesterday and made my mix. Just saw this video and you mention 3ml to 190. Which is right? Thanks much!
Hi Johnny, all are right. The concentration can vary a little, use less for lighter work. Use more for more nasty stains. You will have a great chance of streaks that you have to remove later with water with more concentrated solutions and less won't clean quite as well. 3ml to 190 is the low end of the concentration range and 10 ml is the very highest end. I know its confusing and I apologize for that and will try to simplify the instructions to accommodate.
@@ImmaculateComics i have a small glass container of immacuclean. i wanted to use 100ml of it but am confused as to the water ratio per ml of immacuclean.
@@Thirdbornentertainment I see...You make just want to download the instructions from our website. secureservercdn.net/72.167.241.46/nji.7f7.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/immacuclean-instructions-jan-2022-1.pdf it's important to understand some terminology first because we don't really use ratios in chemistry. The immacuclean is a "solute", the water is a "solvent" together the solute and the solvent are concocted into a "solution". for your purposes add about 3.5ml to get 100ml of solution. You can start with even less (2ml I 100ml) if you see streaking and just do more applications as that is easier. good luck!
I love my immacuclean on older books pre 2000's i took the gloss right off a new book and even on older books yes yellows and reds are touchy i did an ASM #8 yesterday it has 2 white streaks on it now but the whole dang cover is basically yellow and i knew it was going to be a gamble using the solution but it was filthy so two faint white streaks are better than dirty all over besides it was for my PC so i'm not too concerned saves a ton of time not having to use erasers and magic erasers and lord knows i've taken off all colors easier with those getting too over zealous and being in a hurry.. but as much as i love immacuclean those boards to press out spine ticks are a godsend i'll buy your products for life!
Thanks steve that’s good feedback, some people tell me that immacuclean makes modern books appear more glossy and others share your experience, that it removes gloss. I will do some experiment to See if I can determine the difference. I may makes a different immacuclean for modern books or at a minimum only recommend the current immacuclean for copper or older books. I suspect the different is whether or. It the printer used Kaolite in the printing
@@ImmaculateComics I've used immaculclean on books from the forties through the late nineties with no loss of cover gloss. Since I generally don't clean or press books printed after 2000 though, I have no experience with them.
Definitely appreciate the mathematical formulas at the beginning of your video. But as a customer it would be more helpful to start A to B and forget all the other stuff. So from what I got out of the video was 3ml of IC and 190ml of water to produce a regular solution to use. I personally was unsure of the mixture from the instructions provided in the kit. So to make sure...its 3ml of IC to 190ml of water for a regular mixture?
@@ImmaculateComics thank you very much. I think that would be helpful information to be added to your kits. If I missed that particular time bit in the instructions I received with my kit, my apologies. Your solution does do a good job of removing that deep dirt out of the comic that other techniques take much longer to do, without hurting the paper...as long as you allow it to dry properly. Thank you very much.
@@ImmaculateComics Well, just to be really nitty, it's actually 3ml of IC mixed with 187ml of DI to produce 190ml of cleaning solution, right? But as you showed, you don't have to calculate the amount of water, just dilute the IC in a moderate amount of DI, then top off to 190ml and shake once more. BTW, where can one obtain DI, and why is it better than distilled? Thanks!
Once I open the Immacuclean does my 1 year time to use start? If I refrigerate how long will the source liquid last. Also how long can the mix with water last in that pump bottle at room temp or refrigerated?
The duration it lasts is not quite as precise as that. The factors are exposure to oxygen, temp, and microbes. It is biodegradable so it starts biodegrading when you dilute it and expose it to oxygen. I don’t have the answers to your questions for your specific humidity , microbes, oxygen content etc. but it’s usually at least a year until it starts going bad and more like 3 years. I say a year because the first indication that there’s less material than I stated with at my location with an occasionally opened bottle at ambient temperature. I hope that helps.
Hi Rick , just a simple question. If I dilute and make a full liter of solution will the product be stable for an extended period of time (a year or more)? Or will it degrade?
Hi Randy, thanks for asking. If you live locally you should see a "local pickup" option upon checking out. You acn then collect your product at Mill Geek comics in Bothell!
The answer is an unsatisfying "it depends" so I usually recommend to wait until about 5 minutes after it is dry to the touch. Where I live with my ambient temperature and pressure and the amount of solution I use, that time is typically around 20 minutes.
Typically I don't use erasers at all. But if I do its usually after I wet clean the book, which may prompt me to wet clean it a second time. Erasers do a great job at removing some soils, but others (oily stain like fingerprints) it can rub further into the paper fibers themselves and make it actually harder to clean.
Hi Anthony, sure that would be fine. But so far as the covers are concerned there is unlikely to be much benefit. The covers won’t absorb any more water than they do when they are completely wiped with the stuff. However the interior pages may benefit.
Hey Rick, do you ever see ink completely come off with just distilled water. 99% of time i have no damage from wet cleaning but every once in while the ink comes right off leaving a streak of missing ink. This tends to happen mostly on silver age books. I wonder if some previous activity may have destabilized the ink or something. I’d love to send you some photos of examples.
Yeah I have seen that before a handful of times. There was one old Batman. Ok in particular it happened on that I remember because I was cleaning two copies of the same book and it happened to one book and not the other. I still have no idea why
@@ImmaculateComics well there’s one less Nick Fury 1 out there now :( I may have done a Hydrogen Peroxide and UV treatment to it previously. I wonder if that could have caused the issue.
@@AlfredGoldberg ugh thats awful I am so sorry. Those purples on the cover are so beautiful too. I have long worried about the possible effects of oxidation by light and peroxide on the sizing agents of the paper. some of those rosins are particularly susceptible and its impossible to know ahead of time which ones. will be affected. Also its similar with the reds and yellows with the blue and UV light treatments. some of them will fade and some wont and as far as I can tell it is impossible to determine ahead of time.
@@Atomicwebs now I’m wondering if I should reassemble the book and have a low grade copy or experiment further by putting the cover in a bath and see if more inks come out without friction.
that seems like a no brainer. If a $1 solution of sodium per carbonate works for you and doesn't ruin your books then you are much better at this hobby than I am!
@@ImmaculateComics honestly just trying to do it on the cheap. Still working on it. Ruined a couple of junk comics but had some positive results, still working on it. I would have never attempted cleaning comics, if it wasn't for you, so thank you 👍👊
The issue with oxy clean is all the other stuff in there like perfumes. The scent might trigger a professional grader, or even a high end collector. I try distilled water first for wet cleaning. If that does not work I move up the scale - Immacuclean then low peroxide. As noted, don't over soak the paper - you can repeat if needed, and let the paper dry to the touch before trying the next thing.
Love how comic guys always love the smell of old comic books.
Its getting harder to find in the wild!
I wanted to share my observations on the Immacuclean solution. I’ve used it on several eras of paper at this point with varied results. One commonality is that it does do a good job at getting dirt off the covers. I use a 3.5% solution with cotton round followed by 1 wipe of Di-ionized water, let it dry by hanging off a ledge (usually I am only needing to clean back covers as fronts I do manually). Then a second wipe with DI water and a second dry before Pressing.
10 Silver age Tales of Suspense (1967) issues lost some cover luster. They still look good but comparing to identical issues I dry cleaned, you can see a loss of gloss. Also, there is a change in the way the page feels - just slightly rougher or drier similar to running your finger along a piece of chalk.
Bronze age issues came out great. I did a half dozen DC’s from 1971 then blew through 12 issues from 1977 in no time and they all came out looking great. No change in luster or feel. However, 2 Tomb of Dracula Evel Kneivel covers (issues 16 and 17) had different results. One was still glossy, the other slightly less so, like the 60’s issues mentioned above.
I tried it on a 2013 Avengers mostly white cover and interestingly enough it ended up similar to the 1967 issues with a nice white color but a loss in gloss and tactile feel. Almost like the Alkalinity changed?
Anyway, I gotta give the thumbs up for the most part. As is often said “Practice on junk books!” Just sometimes hard to find old junk books to practice on!
And once again a shout out for the chamfered boards. They are awesome on every era I’ve tried them on. Thanks!
This is such good info Johnny, thank you so much. Silver age books are sometime impervious to harm and look great and other times lose gloss and other times lose color. I just cleaned three copies of Avengers #8 and they each had different effects. Similar to your experiences. Bronze age books largely behave about the same so I suspect it may be age-related, but I really dont know. Tha chamfered boards have been a boon for the industry. I just wish I didnt have to make 3-4 to get one good one!
Thanks, Rick! Been doing it on my own but it's always great to have confirmation from the expert!
Right on!
I got it but haven't used it yet. I have a stack of star wars with white letters on the cover that are gonna get a wipe down. Can't wait
Keep us updated on your progress!
Just received my package, cant wait to get started. Thank you
Yay!
Very cool. Really learning a lot from you. Thanks again!
Thanks my friend. Its my wish and hope that we all learn a lot from each other. I have much to learn too!
I saw someone else use a blue LED light to help with that yellowing. Love seeing the results of your projects. I plan to pick some up when I get brave enough to start cleaning, and when I actually get a press.
I placed my order for the cleaning kit can't wait to try this stuff out thanks
Hope you like it!
Where did you get kit? Web site eBay?
Where can I find what’s it call magiclean and long desk lights?
Hi and thanks for asking . You can find links to immacuclean here www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=579634074&hl=en-us&sxsrf=AM9HkKm5oj8XoMj0WIY_tRAUTOKuDTl0Yg%3A1699202550547&q=Mill%20Geek%20Comics&ludocid=11017594651653679401&ibp=gwp%3B0%2C7&lsig=AB86z5ULinJ6DFYwP9oiVflhaATe&kgs=6431dc54c3a96770&shndl=-1&source=sh%2Fx%2Floc%2Fact%2Fm1%2Fcan%2F3&asid=canlbse
Still funny when he says magic juice lol ok so would be easy just say 4 oz of distill water and 1 mil of solution , to many numbers .
is this the formila for washing out all the reds? haha dude you are easily my new favorite youtuber i love it!
yeah that's basically it! Thanks for the kind words!
@@ImmaculateComics as much as i enjoy laughing, you are on to something, id definitely reduce the concentration and change the method of appliccation if i wete to try it myself,its ability to clean is aparent. I am interrsted in buying a few things from your shop which I probably will do shortly so, please, dont take offense to me seeing the comedy in all this! I support what you do
@@handrewmillan4293 my friend , I’ve learned to have thick skins and communicate through kindness if I’m going to be my genuine flawed self online. Thanks for your encouragement! Rick
for those that have trouble with metric units of measure 190 mililitres is about 6 fluid ounces and 3ml is just over a half teaspoon, so if you mix a half teaspoon of immaculaclean concentrate with 6 ounces of water, your solution will be about right.
Thans Jim, sometimes I forget my audience!
I appreciate this but do you need to write it by hand? I don't understand your handwriting 😆😆😆😆😆
Sorry for that, I don't have to write it by hand but its much easier for me that way.
Nice video, I use 6mil for my stronger & 3mil for my regular strength. I still do a rub after with just DW to guarantee no residue is left over on the surface of the Comic, clean, clean & more clean is my motto. You are using more pressure then I am but I like the results at whatever pressure.
Thanks for the input Big John!
John, I am trying your idea of using my small tack iron to warm the comic prior to using immaculean and so far the results have been amazing! Of course the comic I am currently working on has a subscription crease so it will never be above a vg/fn, but just wanted to give a thanks for that tip!
@@KollectingKaos John and I laugh about how we often get to the same place through difference avenues. I will sometime place a preheated aluminum board on my comics before using immacuclean. John had that same idea from a different perspective, which is kismet in my opinion!
@@ImmaculateComics I had been thinking about picking up a small travel iron to preheat the comics before cleaning and I may still do that. But for small creases in the cover or indent's it's hard to beat a tack iron.
That will work but warming a thick sheet of steel or aluminum in an over it a heat press works better ( more even and better temp control! and it’s easier too!
I made up a medium-strength one.. kind of surprised how strong it is it will even take the colour off with very very limited effort.. and I usually have to go back and rinse with distilled water... but definitely removes a lot of dirt.. but also takes the gloss off the page
You may profit from you need a lot more learning and practice time. ImmacuClean can remove some ink but its relatively rate a more pronounced on specific books. ImmacuClean can enhance the gloss on a book or detract from the reflectivity depending on how you perform your cleaning and your pressing, combined with the amount of kaolite used in the ink and paper of any particular books. Just as many examples of enhancing gloss can be reported as those detracting from gloss and a significant factor is how it is cleaned and pressed. a parametric factor is the book itself, and another factor is the immacuclean itself, naturally. Its a complex system and just stating the any one factor is what led to that particular response is nearly impossible. Keep practicing and see if you agree with me. Also, have fun!
What E=MC2?
A tale as old as time!
What would be used to remove foxing? Looking for a video in case you already posted.
ugh, thats something I have developed but cant sell for legal reasons, sorry.
Awe man I'm sorry I should have read the comments first! Will let you know how my first test comes out!
Please do I can't wait ti hear about it!
TY For all your videos ... btw I am wondering ..What is that spot on the H in Hulk after clean/press?
Thats a great question, and I hadn't noticed it. its appears to have a yellow spot on it now. I'll check it out!
Rick, per your written instructions "When first learning, it is recommended to use one
bottle per 1000ml (35g/l or 3.5%). In a 200ml bottle use 7-10ml of ImmacuClean Concentrate tp 190-193ml of water and mix well." Read it yesterday and made my mix. Just saw this video and you mention 3ml to 190. Which is right? Thanks much!
Hi Johnny, all are right. The concentration can vary a little, use less for lighter work. Use more for more nasty stains. You will have a great chance of streaks that you have to remove later with water with more concentrated solutions and less won't clean quite as well. 3ml to 190 is the low end of the concentration range and 10 ml is the very highest end. I know its confusing and I apologize for that and will try to simplify the instructions to accommodate.
so how much immacuclean per 100ml?
100ml of water solvent or 100ml of mixed solution?
@@ImmaculateComics i have a small glass container of immacuclean. i wanted to use 100ml of it but am confused as to the water ratio per ml of immacuclean.
@@Thirdbornentertainment I see...You make just want to download the instructions from our website. secureservercdn.net/72.167.241.46/nji.7f7.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/immacuclean-instructions-jan-2022-1.pdf
it's important to understand some terminology first because we don't really use ratios in chemistry.
The immacuclean is a "solute", the water is a "solvent" together the solute and the solvent are concocted into a "solution". for your purposes add about 3.5ml to get 100ml of solution. You can start with even less (2ml I 100ml) if you see streaking and just do more applications as that is easier. good luck!
I love my immacuclean on older books pre 2000's i took the gloss right off a new book and even on older books yes yellows and reds are touchy i did an ASM #8 yesterday it has 2 white streaks on it now but the whole dang cover is basically yellow and i knew it was going to be a gamble using the solution but it was filthy so two faint white streaks are better than dirty all over besides it was for my PC so i'm not too concerned saves a ton of time not having to use erasers and magic erasers and lord knows i've taken off all colors easier with those getting too over zealous and being in a hurry.. but as much as i love immacuclean those boards to press out spine ticks are a godsend i'll buy your products for life!
I’ve also run into similar issues. What’s the best way to remove the white streaks? Go over it again with straight DO water?
DI*
That’s exactly correct, use DI water!
Thanks steve that’s good feedback, some people tell me that immacuclean makes modern books appear more glossy and others share your experience, that it removes gloss. I will do some experiment to
See if I can determine the difference. I may makes a different immacuclean for modern books or at a minimum only recommend the current immacuclean for copper or older books. I suspect the different is whether or. It the printer used Kaolite in the printing
@@ImmaculateComics I've used immaculclean on books from the forties through the late nineties with no loss of cover gloss. Since I generally don't clean or press books printed after 2000 though, I have no experience with them.
Definitely appreciate the mathematical formulas at the beginning of your video. But as a customer it would be more helpful to start A to B and forget all the other stuff. So from what I got out of the video was 3ml of IC and 190ml of water to produce a regular solution to use. I personally was unsure of the mixture from the instructions provided in the kit.
So to make sure...its 3ml of IC to 190ml of water for a regular mixture?
Yea that’s it exactly!
@@ImmaculateComics thank you very much. I think that would be helpful information to be added to your kits. If I missed that particular time bit in the instructions I received with my kit, my apologies.
Your solution does do a good job of removing that deep dirt out of the comic that other techniques take much longer to do, without hurting the paper...as long as you allow it to dry properly. Thank you very much.
@@ImmaculateComics Well, just to be really nitty, it's actually 3ml of IC mixed with 187ml of DI to produce 190ml of cleaning solution, right? But as you showed, you don't have to calculate the amount of water, just dilute the IC in a moderate amount of DI, then top off to 190ml and shake once more. BTW, where can one obtain DI, and why is it better than distilled? Thanks!
Once I open the Immacuclean does my 1 year time to use start? If I refrigerate how long will the source liquid last. Also how long can the mix with water last in that pump bottle at room temp or refrigerated?
The duration it lasts is not quite as precise as that. The factors are exposure to oxygen, temp, and microbes. It is biodegradable so it starts biodegrading when you dilute it and expose it to oxygen. I don’t have the answers to your questions for your specific humidity , microbes, oxygen content etc. but it’s usually at least a year until it starts going bad and more like 3 years. I say a year because the first indication that there’s less material than I stated with at my location with an occasionally opened bottle at ambient temperature. I hope that helps.
@@ImmaculateComics totally helps! Will assume both the dilution and concentrate are good for 1 year :) and just buy again next Jan :)
Hi Rick , just a simple question. If I dilute and make a full liter of solution will the product be stable for an extended period of time (a year or more)? Or will it degrade?
If exposed to oxygen it will degrade in about 8-10 months after dilution. Its good for several years as a concentrate.
Hello Rick- how do I go about obtaining your product(immacuclean)? I live in your area
Hi Randy, thanks for asking. If you live locally you should see a "local pickup" option upon checking out. You acn then collect your product at Mill Geek comics in Bothell!
Can you pretty much go right into the press after cleaning or should you allow the book to air dry for a period of time?
The answer is an unsatisfying "it depends" so I usually recommend to wait until about 5 minutes after it is dry to the touch. Where I live with my ambient temperature and pressure and the amount of solution I use, that time is typically around 20 minutes.
Do you use erasers on the book before you use the solution to clean it?
Typically I don't use erasers at all. But if I do its usually after I wet clean the book, which may prompt me to wet clean it a second time. Erasers do a great job at removing some soils, but others (oily stain like fingerprints) it can rub further into the paper fibers themselves and make it actually harder to clean.
Hi Rick, would it be alright to steam the entire book with DI after Immacucleaning the covers and before pressing?
Hi Anthony, sure that would be fine. But so far as the covers are concerned there is unlikely to be much benefit. The covers won’t absorb any more water than they do when they are completely wiped with the stuff. However the interior pages may benefit.
Hey Rick, do you ever see ink completely come off with just distilled water. 99% of time i have no damage from wet cleaning but every once in while the ink comes right off leaving a streak of missing ink. This tends to happen mostly on silver age books. I wonder if some previous activity may have destabilized the ink or something. I’d love to send you some photos of examples.
Yeah I have seen that before a handful of times. There was one old Batman. Ok in particular it happened on that I remember because I was cleaning two copies of the same book and it happened to one book and not the other. I still have no idea why
@@ImmaculateComics well there’s one less Nick Fury 1 out there now :( I may have done a Hydrogen Peroxide and UV treatment to it previously. I wonder if that could have caused the issue.
@@AlfredGoldberg ugh thats awful I am so sorry. Those purples on the cover are so beautiful too. I have long worried about the possible effects of oxidation by light and peroxide on the sizing agents of the paper. some of those rosins are particularly susceptible and its impossible to know ahead of time which ones. will be affected. Also its similar with the reds and yellows with the blue and UV light treatments. some of them will fade and some wont and as far as I can tell it is impossible to determine ahead of time.
@@Atomicwebs now I’m wondering if I should reassemble the book and have a low grade copy or experiment further by putting the cover in a bath and see if more inks come out without friction.
@@AlfredGoldberg You do what you think is best but if it were me, I would experiment on it for sure.
This guy is the Walter White of comic book cleaning
its funny you say that because I had so many thing in my house that Walter white had in that series, including the same tube furnace!
E = mc2..... I just use oxyclean from the dollar tree 🤣
that seems like a no brainer. If a $1 solution of sodium per carbonate works for you and doesn't ruin your books then you are much better at this hobby than I am!
@@ImmaculateComics honestly just trying to do it on the cheap. Still working on it. Ruined a couple of junk comics but had some positive results, still working on it. I would have never attempted cleaning comics, if it wasn't for you, so thank you 👍👊
@@mikelitteris69 keep on keeping on, share any tips and results!
The issue with oxy clean is all the other stuff in there like perfumes. The scent might trigger a professional grader, or even a high end collector. I try distilled water first for wet cleaning. If that does not work I move up the scale - Immacuclean then low peroxide. As noted, don't over soak the paper - you can repeat if needed, and let the paper dry to the touch before trying the next thing.