How do I convert to Messianic Judaism? | Rabbi Joseph Shulam
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I identity myself as Messianic Jew
All my life throught to be Catholic, all while my spirit disagreed with their ways. Felt out of place & questioned their practices & beliefs.
Then @ age 30, with a heavy heart, my Dad revealed to me that we are Sephardic Jews. Two years later I walked out of the Catholic Church indefinitely.
Then in 2018 my Jewish grandmother passed away and I knew then I needed to find my roots & learn of my heritage. Covid lock downs shortly after gave me all the time to learn of my heritage, teach my children, learn the language, Torah & amazingly realized, my Jewish grandmother had taught me as a child in (Spanish/ Ladido) the Shema prayer and so many other things; it was amazing!
To put it in order, first I am believer of Yeshua Jesus. Then later in my life, learned of my Jewish roots. I am a Messianic Jew, Shabbat observer and Yeshua is my Messiah, the Holy Spirit guides me & leads me. Now, awaiting to be reunited with my Savior very soon.
Brother your faith lead you and may Christ keep you in his hand where no one can snatch you from him
Many people came to New Mexico during the Spanish Inquisition. I learned of this in the 80s when the Pope apologized for inquisition and many Hispanic people identified as Jews.
TY Sir Glory to Hashem Yeshua our God and King 🤲🏼✝️🕎✡️🥳
This is such a great teaching! Todah rabah! When I get discouraged that I'm not part of the Orthodox Jewish community because I believe Yeshua is the Messiah and I'm a Gentile; I remind myself that one day when Yeshua comes back we will go to the Temple in Yerushalaim and worship together for a thousand years. May He come back speedily and in our days.
You are not a Gentile if you are following HaShem, Torah-observant, observe the Sabbaths, etc.!! How can you be?? A Gentile as defined by Torah is some who practices idolatry!!!
@@taracollins326 A Gentile is someone not born to a Jewish mother. Neither one of my parents is Jewish. But my Messiah is Jewish and has adopted me into His family. One day I will worship Him with my brothers and sisters both Jew and Gentile🩵
@@taracollins326 This statement isn't correct at all.
@@frankemann81 according to the 1828 Webster’s Dictionary: GEN'TILE, noun [Latin gentilis; from Latin gens, nation, race; applied to pagans.]
In the scriptures, a pagan; a worshipper of false gods; any person not a Jew or a christian; a heathen. The Hebrews included in the term goim or nations, all the tribes of men who had not received the true faith, and were not circumcised. The christians translated goim by the Latin gentes, and imitated the Jews in giving the name gentiles to all nations who were not Jews nor christians. In civil affairs, the denomination was given to all nations who were not Romans.
GEN'TILE, adjective Pertaining to pagans or heathens.
The term has conveniently been changed in just the last 50 or so years. So…
@@frankemann81 it is absolutely correct. While it may be hard to believe, this was the terms original intent: GEN'TILE, noun [Latin gentilis; from Latin gens, nation, race; applied to pagans.]
In the scriptures, a pagan; a worshipper of false gods; any person not a Jew or a christian; a heathen. The Hebrews included in the term goim or nations, all the tribes of men who had not received the true faith, and were not circumcised. The christians translated goim by the Latin gentes, and imitated the Jews in giving the name gentiles to all nations who were not Jews nor christians. In civil affairs, the denomination was given to all nations who were not Romans.
GEN'TILE, adjective Pertaining to pagans or heathens.
This definition taken from the 1828 Webster’s Dictionary and demonstrates the change in its meaning just within the last 50 years or so as Christians have further embraced supersessionism.
Dear Rabi you made laugh today, glad to have you available to keep us straight. We are praying for you.
Some of us learn the hard way, so thanks Rav for being so clear! Blessings to You and family
Joseph Shulam nailed it! Hope our brothers and sisters will learn and commit life to God of Israel.
Hello. My name is Raul, I'm from Curitiba Brazil, I'm part of the Sar'El congregation. Thank you for this type of content because it is the essence of truth. Here in Brazil, an idolatry of Judaism and becoming a Jew grew. Communities of non-Jews who call themselves Jews and promote false conversion. I've been to two communities like this and spiritual life is greatly affected. Today I dedicate myself to talking on RUclips about the gospel of Yeshua from the Torah to bring precisely these issues that each one is loved by God regardless of their origin and tradition, we must live a life dedicated and filled with the Spirit of God. I would love to keep in touch with you.
Very dedicated and difficult issue. I understand the Rabi but also understand people who are tired of going to churches and celebrating pagan feasts. At least the people who are naming themselves Messianic are trying to be closer to the Jewish Messiah, like me and my family, for example. Why can't people be more Jewish if they want to be like their Messiah? It works in Islam, and their religion is growing numerous. If Mohammed was an Arab and people follow Quran and have a very arabic-religious way of living all over the world. Why can't Christians or other people do the same about Yeshua and the Torah? That's my question.
Shalom dear friends
Fabio
I totally agree I don’t like what he said it makes me sad that we will always face discrimination by Catholics and Jewish people I’m so disgusted with this world
We can and do because we are grafted in.I suggest watching "Identity crisis" and "who is the bride" by Jim Staley and follow Jacob's Tent with Bill Cloud
3 minutes ago
We can and do because we are grafted in. it's called practice for the kingdom. I suggest watching "Identity crisis" and "who is the bride" by Jim Staley and follow Jacob's Tent with Bill Cloud
Once a Rabbi always a Rabbi to us - you are our got-to on all matters concerning our faith.
Rabbi I am reading "everything you need to build a messianic yeshiva" and saw you're chapter in the book amazing!! all these years ago you guys laid out the foundation and it's amazing to see God working and how much it's grown
Listening for third time, so true!!!
Amen! ♥ Thank you very much our dear Brother Joseph Shulam in Messiah. I am grateful that you are still teaching us. May the God of Israel give you strength and health and help your wife and family. ♥ I am a pagan believer and call myself a messianic and/or Christian. Shalom from Finland - Jukka S.
1Co 7:17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.
1Co 7:18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
1Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
1Co 7:20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
I think maybe your answer was kind, maybe nice, it was okay. I liked it.
I was circumcised at eight days old, it was 1948, I'm a Gentile. Non Jew.
Israel had just been born again, May 14, 1948. I was born 6 months latter. Not clear on why Gentiles were circumcised at that time, even my two brothers were circumcised. Not sure if it was by brit milah. I was told it was for cleanliness. Thank you God bless in Jesus name
Awesome Rabbi. Thanks for hitting the nail right on the head. Straightforward wisdom.
Dear Rabbi Joseph, how do you think about Book Hebrews 8:13?
I have a question for the rabbi. How do you decide which laws to keep and which laws to ignore?
God bless you...and Thank you!
Messaic Judaism believes in the Torah & the Messaiah YHWH YAHSUAH
I have read the Torah and the Old testament Bible they are the exact same. You are correct The only difference between Judaism and Messianic Judaism is Messianic Jews believe Jesus was the Messiah and standard Judaism believes that he was not. The only question then I have after watching this is one is what if you were circumcised at birth as a Christian you can't be circumcised twice so how can you convert to Judaism. He stated if you were circumcised you were already Jew. That one confused me.
LOL! At the opening….good stuff.
Hallelujah!!
Dear sir , you struck the right chord . Follow the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...❤
Thank you for your wisdom and sense of humour. I needed to hear this.
As always, I am a respectful observer ,outside - looking in. I have concluded that for myself and His Majesty, for the time being here in Canada among the frozen chosen, that it is of greater importance to me to have my Lord every day, every moment, than it is to join any congregstion. They are all His. I do not have to be the guy that goes in, and stirs the pot. So I work 6 days a week and leave the denominations ,all of them ,alone. I do love the new branches I see coming forth from The Vine and I LOVE my new Tree of Life bible ! Iam in Love eith One for Israel and their outreach and ..the teaching ! OMG ! It is wonderful ! No bias. No agenda. No predjudice. No race to be First. I am watching all of you and I am so proud of you. I love the love coming through ! Nobody is off in lala land teaching us to give cause you cannot out give God.. so sick of all the manipulation we endured waiting and praying for you all. So glad to see you and hear you all with my own ears n eyes. ❤❤
What about us non Jewish believers just call ourselves messianic believers. I know it feels a bit lonely to not fit in with jews or Christian churches. I've just realised im a messianic believer.
In Messianic Judaism, Jews do not convert to another religion when they trust in Yeshua as their Messiah, and Gentiles are not asked to convert to Judaism. Indeed, Rav Shaul (Paul) spends a lot of time in Romans, Galatians, 2 Corinthians, and Colossians explaining that a Gentile is not required to become a Jew in order to follow Yeshua, and that a person should not seek to become a Jew if he or she were born Gentile. Both groups together are to form one NEW person. In the Temple service, many different types of instruments played together-in unison (in unity). So, when we praise G-d in unison, no matter what instrument we are, we are doing what He intended for the Body of Messiah.
However, in any branch of rabbinical Judaism, a Gentile must specifically renounce Yeshua in order to convert to Judaism.
You nailed it sir, God bless you for all you do and what you share with us
before even watching the video I'm going to say its not a physical thing it's a Spiritual thing a Heart thing friends
Just love god so much you gather all information that your brain can possibly hold in regards to jesus including ancient languages of the bible
As a gentile, this helped me understand so much 💕
To make it clear to everyone I was not the one that asked the question. Howerver, I have had that nagging doubt for years. I am glad I ran into this because it answered that nagging question. Rabbi thank you for your answer. Shalom!
God bless you. No I wouldn't say you are harsh, rather the circumcisers (judaizers) are harsh! You are merciful, and so is the truth! Amen.
رائع دائما ... احب الصراحة التي تقولها
Amen and AMEN! We are all one in Yeshua, whether Jew or Gentile! God is the Father of all creation of humankind..love the Lord God Adonai with all you heart, mind and strength! HalleluYah!! ❤❤❤
You reminded me of a mystery that has never been addressed as far as I know. Generations of American men are circumcised yet they are not, as far as any of our family knows, Jewish. Is this revealed in the scriptures?
Thank you for you very helpful teachings. My family and I are so thankful for you YT channel. My question: Who are the Saints?
The Saints are all of us who love Yeshua, both Jew and Gentile.
Thank You Rabbi for answering this question. This was discussed in the early church. Some thought that you had to be Jewish to be a follower of Christ. Paul corrected them on that matter. So, while you don't have to be Jewish to be a follower of Christ I still go to a Messianic Service several times a year just for fellowship with my Jewish brother and sisters who are also followers of Christ.
Galatians 3:28
New International Version
28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Glad you received from Joseph's teaching. Blessing to you.
Rabbi,can you please explain the difference between Messianic Judaism and Hebrew Roots beliefs?
Circumcision used to be commonly done to most males born here in the usa, but that was whenit was a supposedly JudeoChristian culture.
The Tanakh is the plan of salvation and the Gospel is the method of implementation 🕎✝️
The question wasn't dumb it was ignorant. Ignorance and stupidity aren't the same thing. Hopefully they understood the message you gave as it was really good advice.
I know of two groups that perform halachic conversions to Judaism, while having faith in Yeshua:Messianic Dallas Bnei Avraham and Lapid Judaism.
I’m so confused. So…it is perfectly okay for people to convert to orthodox Judaism but Messianic Jews provide no WAY to? Your justification is that they will be treated differently - you actually think that those who convert care about such things?? This type of objection seems hypocritical, and seems in conflict with Yeshua’s teaching. There has always been a process for the sojourner - the Ger - to convert should that be his/her desire.
Under what authority do you have to remove or replace the requirements outlined in Torah? Even Yeshua said He did not come to do away with the Law and if your only reason for doing so are the one-sided letters of Paul and not Torah 👀 that is dangerous!!! ANYONE who prescribes actions outside of the Torah should NOT be listened to!!! You all seem to be like Jonah who refused to allow for the pagans to repent and serve G-D. Additionally, the term “gentile” is very divisive. How can you call members of your own congregations, who were not born Jews - who are Torah observant and keep Kosher and observe the Sabbaths and are studying in a community of Jews - gentiles??!! Shouldn’t you at least call them Sojourners or Ger as they are learning from you how to become Jewish?
They are NOT idolaters which, of course, is how the Torah defines and uses of that word. If someone has it on their heart and wants to convert, and lives already in community with Jews (who believe in Christ), keeps Torah (by faith, led by the Holy Spirit - as everyone who are following Christ should), observes all the Sabbaths and Holy Days/Feasts/Festivals, and keeps kosher…they should be allowed to convert.
In fact, the Talmud indicates that Pharaoh’s daughter - whose Jewish name became “daughter of G-D,” the one who drew Moses from the water - was a convert. The Talmud explains that she went down to the water to repent of her father’s idolatry and Mikvah 3 times in the water. It says that upon her conversion, when she emerged from the water she was then worthy to receive the God’s ark.
The problem is that “Messianic Judaism” is not Judaism it is Christianity. You don’t need to convert to it if you’re already Christian. This is what this Rabbi is really saying. Pay attention to his scoff at all those outside the covenant…he called all gentiles uncircumcised Philistines. LISTEN!! The Spirit behind this is revealing that “gentiles” in Messianic congregations still stand outside of the covenant.
The process of conversion to Judaism is clear and simple but there are those who want to keep the Way hidden. Why? Having more Torah-observant Jews should be a thing to be celebrated!!! It was Yeshua’s message to ALL: Repent (turn from idolatry), Mikvah (baptism is a distortion of this very Jewish process), and live a Torah-observant life in community with other Jews. I agree that no one should take conversion lightly (there is a lot a convert can/will loose) and there should be a lengthy process to obtain it but to flatly deny EVERYONE is not right.
To deny someone who desires conversion access to these truth and to deny them details about THE WAY is not done in Judaism (as directed by Torah) so why are you saying something different? You are misrepresenting HaShem!! Especially, in light of Isaiah 56:1-7; Ruth; Rahab; the story of Esther; and many other places in the Torah.
THANK WE ARE VERY INTRESTING OF YOU.
Love it
some say mushrooms are kosher, others say they are not. Which is it?
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Amen God bless You 😁
Christ is lord.
Outreach Judaism makes great arguments against Messianic Judaism
Where did this guy come from?! I Love him!! I want to live next door him in Heaven
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I literally don't know who to tell. For starters, I'm pretty confident that I'll be dismissed as a whack job, but another issue is I literally do not know with whom to share this information. God started talking to me repeatedly this year. Last year, I had an ominous vision from him, but it was this year that things have really amped up.
Because I am new to this, I may even be misinterpreting the vision. It's hard to be both the seer and the interpreter. It took me several weeks to understand one of the more recent ones. This one happened yesterday (Sunday; it is now Monday morning, before the dawn).
I also don't want to come across like I have an issue with any certain people, and that seems unavoidable. I am seriously only the messenger, I have no opinion on this.
In my vision, I was shown that love has become too guarded, selfish, and greedy, expecting tit for tat, always. The girl who represented this concept and this type of love wore the Star of David around her neck. I was shown that love should be more giving freely and not measuring. Again, I have no opinion. I just wanted to relay what I have seen.
You are not harsh and that’s the problem with the Messianic. it’s, that they’re not encouraging so you can come as you are and stay as you are what’s the purpose? What’s the use for?
here in Philippines before circumcision is using wooden stick but still in remote areas they still.practice it.. but in the city is by the doctor. all filipinos are circumcise maybe even muslim, i dont know maybe if they practice it here. but i assumed they practice it but in christians male children must be circumcise if they reach the age of 7 and up before adulescens.
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Paul said to circumcise your heart
Question: why hasn't the messianic age come yet?
B''H, in Yeshua HaMoshiach Name, Amen ✝️✡️🇮🇱✨
*These words are not mine.* These are the words the Ruach HaKodesh (YAHUAH's Set-Apart Spirit) uttered through me when I prayed to YAHUAH; asking him what *he wants* me to say, knowing the truth. Blessed are they who keep YAHUAH's word:
"Know that YAHUAH is the name of the Most High and YAHUsha is the name of The Son.
Come out of her, my people, who have fallen to the deceit of Constantine. Who know not my name and say they love me. I have made myself known. I have heard you and I am here.
There are many who are yours to be saved. I am he who knows all that you are. Come to me, here are they who are mine. Make haste to come, here are we. Give in to them who speak of me, they are yours. I am here for you. Know that all is for them, here are we.
Give not to them that are against me. I am he who sees all you do. Come to me out of her, all are here for me. Do what I say. Out of her, come. All are here."
Exodus 3:13-15 KJV
13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
John 5:43 KJV
43 *I am come in my Father's name,* and ye receive me not: *if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.*
2 Corinthians 6:17 KJV
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and *touch not the unclean thing;* *and I will receive you.*
Isaiah 52:6-7 KJV
6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
2 Corinthians 6:1-2 KJV
1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)
Romans 10:1-3 KJV
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Romans 10:13-17 KJV
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 *How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?*
15 *And how shall they preach, except they be sent?* as it is written, *How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!*
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. *For Esaias saith,* Lord, *who hath believed our report?*
17 *So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.*
Nahum 1:7 KJV
7 The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and *he knoweth them that trust in him.*
Hebrews 3:15 KJV
15 *While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.*
Isaiah 52:11 KJV
11 *Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing;* go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the Lord.
John 14:15 KJV
15 *If ye love me, keep my commandments.*
You can't just convert,God the Father has to convert you into a godly being,by His power,it's called being born again.
I struggled till the end of this video waiting him say the two most important words there is: YESHUA THE MESSIAH! Pew!!! He said in the end. Without the Jewish Messiah Yeshua there is no relatioship with God the Father! Yeshua is the only way to God and to Heaven!!!!
Exodus 12:48
But if an outsider dwells with you, who would keep the Passover for Adonai, all his males must be circumcised. Then let him draw near and keep it. He will be like one who is native to the land. But no uncircumcised person may eat from it.
Exodus 4
21 Adonai said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt, see that you do all the wonders before Pharaoh that I have put in your hand. Still, I will harden his heart, and he will not let the people go. 22 You are to say to Pharaoh, “This is what Adonai says: ‘Israel is My son, My firstborn. 23 So I have said to you, Let My son go, that he may serve Me, but you have refused to let him go. Behold, I will slay your son, your firstborn.’”
24 It happened along the way, at a lodging place, that Adonai met him and sought to kill him! 25 But Zipporah took a flint, cut off the foreskin of her son, and threw it at his feet, saying, “You are surely a bridegroom of blood to me.” 26 She said, “A bridegroom of blood” because of the circumcision. Then He let him alone.
The circumcision is in correspondence to the sacrifice a servant Israel makes to ethereal premise.
How about your father? My father was a Jew so what shall I do? It is also forbidden for me to convert Judaism ? I believe in Yeshua ha Messiah but I am ethnically Jew. What is your opinion?
Any Jew who believes in a man-god is into avoda Zara idol worship.
The GOD of Israel is Jealous! Go back to your root. Go to a TORAH Orthodox Rabbi for honest and truthful guidance. These messianic Jews as they call themselves have excluded themselves from the Torah.
God bless you Sir!!! With love from South Africa 🇿🇦!!!
Blessings in return!
Thank you Mr. Shulam. From qoyim in Indonesia.
I think a better question will be, WHY should I become a "Messianic" jew, rather than HOW.
You shouldn’t
The counter question is: „What’s your motivation to do so? Marrying a such partner, wanting to make Aliyah or similar earthly motives ?“ Or are you interested in the spiritual roots of Christianity before Constantine mixup with pagan elements, I. e. 1st century original Hebrew Christianity if you are a Gentile Christian with or without Jewish roots? Are you a born Jew who wants to become a follower of Messiah Yeshua? Note, 1st of all, Messianic Judaism is not officially recognised by the State of Israel and won’t entitle you to make Aliyah or the marry a Jew in the State of Israel, as long as the law in legal power is the same it has been for decades. So, for earthly material reasons you better don’t convert to Messianic Judaism. For the two latter, as a Non-Jew, you’d have to convert to Official Orthodox Judaism and either keep silent about your faith in the Messiah Yeshua or even deny Him ( the latter not advised at all, you may lose your soul and faith!). If a Messianic Jew wants to marry a Messianic Non-Jew, they may be united in their common Biblical faith in the Messiah Yeshua and couldn’t do it within the borders of the State of Is, only abroad and have social problems in their respective surroundings, less within their common Messianic congregation. If you are a born and Torah-practicing Jew who wants to follow the Messiah Yeshua despite possible arising troubles, you may have the privilege of not having to change much in your life-style, but will receive forgiveness of your sins and a new or “Messiah-completed “outlook on life and the blessings of Messiahs Yeshua.. As a Gentile follower of Jesus, you can learn more about Yeshua’s Torah-observant lifestyle and adapt whatever G-d shows you. You are bound to the Bible lifestyle according to Acts 15,21-22 etc., while a Jew would be bound to his or her original Jewish Biblical lifestyle according to Acts 16.
how do I convert to something that is both but also neither? nonsense question caused by the fact that some people consider judaism to be religious while others view it ethnicity and while others view it as both ethnicity and religious and still others view judaism as secular. nonsense everywhere. love messianic judaism but this was a terrible question, terrible response and terrible video.
Matthew 23:8-12
King James Version
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
Johnathan cahn is a masonic Jew.
Yes there is a difference. Yes give yourself to God.
But most importantly nobody gets to the father without going through the son.
That belief is the difference.
Repent and trust in Jesus. That is it.
How do you convert to messianic Judaism? You don’t. You pick one or the other.
Good morning Joe! Yeah! Love that opening Question, it reflects the confusion and nuance of Evangelical Protestant Christianity. With it's many many types of Churches (or faiths) 🤣😊🎵🎶
it's a brilliant Question! That definitely stums up the "Messianic Jewish "Christian expression of being born again through evangelicalism .. Protestant Christianity is a very vibrant, philosophy of religion, its interesting pagan expression of worshiping a god-man instead of worshiping Hashem directly. It's fanimanal Greco-Roman philosophy indeed.
This Greco-Roman expression called "Christianity" has gone through so much metamorphic change and constantly reformed into something new Catholic, Protestant, Calvinist, Armenian, Reformism, Messianic Christianity, etc etc etc. It will keep on morphing as it's pagan at its very core. Come home, Joe! Come home to Judaism. Come home to the true expression of worship through the torah and the Tanakh. It's cool that most forms or types of Christianity and it's religious philosophy and traditions are Zionistic in their love and expression for and towards Israel 🇮🇱 and towards Judaism.
Especially after Vatican Two and Nostra Aetate and the work of Professor Jules Isaac in pointing out the contentious teaching towards Jews in the Christian scriptures (the New Testament) in pointing out the antisemitic teachings in the NT developed by Pauline teachings... Etc
This is a problematic view according to the Torah.
In Shemot 12:43-49 Hashem commands that the "ger" cannot eat of Passover, but if he wants to, then that he be circumcised and considered as a native (an Israelite).
The Torah indicates a "conversion" and should not place barriers for Gentiles who want to become part of the Jewish people.
In the entire Bible there is only one form of conversion; "conversion to God"! ...and the only possibility to do this is through Yeshua!
I am a Messianic gentile and never call myself a Messianic Jew , because I'm not Jewish , but I was raised as a Catholic and hate that church and the Protestants are still practicing most of the Catholic traditions , so why would I want to go to a church that ignores G-D'S commandments and changes them ??? or ignores the moedim and makes their own ??? I know I am not Jewish and don't pretend to be , but I most certainly don't want to take part in a bunch of pagan practices , so I will keep attending synagogue with my Jewish brothers and sisters regardless
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Rabbi, this attitude has to change. Gentiles that want to convert to Judaism for their spiritual path are turned away. Ridiculous.
There's no messianic judaism or christianity. Only Nazarenes of THE WAY. If Netivyah is not messianic judaism how do you guys define yourselves?
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Amen you Dont need to convert to mesianinc Judaims, The messege now is not Beliving in God cause thats not a question, The messege now is Beliving in Christ, the Gospel, and when you will belive You will Belive and come And know the True and only God The God of Abrabam Isaac And Jacob...the God of Israel To whom ia Be the Only Glory Amen...
What about worshipping Yeshua? Is that idolatry when I pray to Yeshua instead to JAHWE, to the everlasting God, to the father? So, can I make Yeshua my idol?
"And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.” - John 10: 28-30
Read your Bible everyday brother.
Thanks for your reply. Yet Yeshua Himself taught that we should pray to our Father in heaven. If Yeshua were also the Father, then He would not have to pray to the Father Himself.
@@SP-de5bx He was fully human and fully God. The Messiah is the Son of God positionally, meaning the firstborn. "The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without Him [Yeshua] was not any thing made that was made." John 1:2-3
Since Yeshua takes on human flesh, he does pray to the Father because He is in perfect communion with the Father and the Holy Spirit. The Father and Yeshua are One. His humanity does not take away from his divinity.
"Listen Israel, the Lord is our G-d, the Lord is One."
be carefull where you stand. John is misinterpreted to justify the pagan trinity and disenfranchise the Jewish people. Yeshua, said the Father dwells in me. Meaning he is anointed and he is talking to those present and this can be carried into the future after understanding this. So just as the previous prophets he is an oracle but with powers from above not given to them. a commandment to honour thy Father and thy Mother is where he fits into the messianic tradition as he is the bride. From this when a man and a women come together as one flesh. the bride is in total agreement and servitude upholding the sanctity of the Father. Each glorifying the other under the Law. Everything is paternal even those who constantly sing praises in the Holy Hall are a all male hareem. Women and men go to paradise not to the holy of holy space.
So when he talks sometimes he is the father in spirit and sometimes the son of Man in Spirit although in complete compliance. This is ordained and he doesn't have any choice regarding this. (explains his prayer on the mount and cry out at deaths door) The power within him is of the YhWh Father and he is attuned to its prayer. So when he asks who is my mother or who is my brother and sisters it is the Father speaking not the person. Saying to those present no man comes to the father except through me, means he is saying he is the anointed one and not any other. there were prostitutes (fakes) walking around claiming to be Him.
Well I hope this finds you in the intimate being. Shamaal eshe.
he also passed his anointing on to the twelve making them Fathers in Spirit (also are they YhWh)
but never did he do this to Saul/Paurus. Consider this flaw in thy side.
Thanks for the explanation. But what about worship? Is it still wrong to address Yeshua in prayer? I understand more and more that one can only pray to the Father. Yeshua still remains the anointing.
Why don't you ask how do I become a Christian? There is No difference.
The anointed has to be a decentent of David through Solomon. According to both Mathew and Luke he has no biological father.
"Learn to love G.od"
Guess what? That will cause you to start walking like the ultimate Jew - Yeshua HaMashiach. And yes, even His Gentile discipels will start "looking Jewish." Not because they necessarily are Jewish, but because Messiah is!
Who's Jewish? Anyone born from a Jewish mother OR if you are a genuine (circumcised) converted non-Jew. But that's not all. There's one tiny little thing left to become fully Jewish. And that is to _practice_ what the God of Israel taught in tenach. (And not any other scripture.) To have undivided faith in only One sole, _incorporeal_ God only.
Do you get that definition? Did the words soak in? Then take the test below to make sure you understood.
Are you Jewish if you believe in the NT as the word of God? Can you be Jewish and believe in Jesus? (That he was the messiah and God in the flesh who died to atone for our sins.) Are you Jewish if you only have a Jewish father? Are you Jewish if your mother is Jewish but you refuse to keep shabbes? (Shabbat.) Are you Jewish if you are born in Israel and speak Hebrew as your mother tongue? Are you a Jew if you have Jewish grandparents? Can you be Jewish if you have a German, Polish, Middle Eastern or Russian sounding last name? (Schwartz, Weiss, Breitowitsch, Shulam or Kowalska.)
If you answered any of these questions with YES, then you still don't understand the Judaic aspect of being Jewish. If I can give some good advice... God does not need converts. Either from Jews or from Christians. He simply needs an honest prayer and He will nullify even the severest sin. Psalm 145.18-20.
Technically in TANAKH, it was the father who passed the genetic Jewish line. All 12 sons of Jacob married Gentile women. So if we go by Rabbinic standards, Jews wouldn't exist today.
@@johnpratts2856from the time the torah was given, rabbinic code of law dictates that someone should either be a convert or have a maternal line in order to be Jewish. With the exception of the Cohen, Levi and parts of Yisro'el.
Thank you Bro I got you ❤
We have 'Yeshua HA Messiah' from the roots of David as our Father Since he Purchased us from his Precious Blood and through divenly Sacrifice Now I consider my Self as The Messianic Jew
God Bless his Children ❤💛💙🤍
I wanna join but I’m black
“Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised. So then, if those who are not circumcised keep the law’s requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised? The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.
“A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.”
(Romans 2:25-29)
“For in Messiah Yeshua neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.”
(Galatians 5:6)
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Thanks brother Joseph Shulam.
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Messianic Judaism is an oxymoron nonsense.
ACTS 24:5 is the original name.
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Who's name?
Read it, let me know your thoughts shalom.@@Jay-tr3px
@@Jay-tr3pxthe name of followers of Yeshua, they were also originally known as people of The Way.
The term Christian was a derogatory term given by the people in Antioch, way after Messiah ascended to the Father.
I think what the Rabbi is saying that Messianic Judaism is not a separate faith from Christianity. Which is why he says that there's no such thing.
But at the same time, he deems himself as a Messianic Rabbi. So it's not an oxymoron. It's more of telling Gentiles that they have all the creditials needed to obtain salvation and to love and follow God.
It is not against scripture to convert to Judaism! It is not against scripture to be circumcised. What Paul said doesn’t change that.
Some letters of this man called Paul can’t change that.
I am a Jew, even you tell me I am not.
I am like Ruth.
Ruth became a Jew.
There is such a think.
I help other people to become the only thing they can become when they came to the faith of Yeshua. They become Jews!!! 💜✡️🕎🙃✡️🕎💜✡️🕎🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊🏃♀️
This makes no sense. People who are trying to leave the idolatry of certain doctrines that exist in the Christian church but who are not "ethnically Jewish" are left in limbo, I don't think that's what Jesus wanted. Even in Orthodox Judaism you have the option of converting with all the discrimination that comes with it, but this leaves you no choice but to remain in a conventional Christian church. Very sad that exclusivism kills the spirit of conversation.
Messianics are not jewish. They just fraudently use the name. Same goes for calling themselves rabbi
Yes they are. If they're the physical descendants of Jacob, they're Jewish.
@@johnpratts2856 if their mother was jewish and they are a messianic then they are an apostate. Same as any other Jew joining any other christian denomination. Messianics are a christian denomination and almost all of their community come from other christian denominations as well. There is nothing Jewish about them. They fraudently use the name jew. They also fraudently use the name Rabbi and synagogue. And they fool no one with trying to say yeshua instead of jesus or Brit hadasha instead of new testament and many other scams.
It’s the biggest mistake of any Jew to convert to whatever of what from Judaism and I am not a Jew
Everything what is out of Judaism is against it
So be very careful to what you believe
Because not everything what’s shines is gold !
False religion,
The christian bible and prophecies about j.c. can be easily dis-proven from the hebrew tanakh ,,
Why don't you call him a woman also. It's the same thing. Imagining yourself a rav or rabbi doesn't make you one. To be a rabbi is to be trained in the Torah tradition in an unbroken chain from Moshe Rabeinu. Guess what not one Jewish Rabbi ever thought Jesus is the messiah. Not one Jewish Rabbi believes the gospels written in common man language is a continuation of the Divine Torah written in the holy language.
As a matter of fact belief in jesus as a deity or prophet is christianity, no question about it. The thing about christianity is that In addition to torturing and prosecuting Jews endlessly
The christian nations have always had an obsession to convert all Jews to christianity.
Why? They say our of love or truth or something like that. But let's imagine what the world would look like if they were successful.
A. There would be no one left in the world to observe God's commandments. God revealed himself to the Jewish people at Mt Sinai and commanded them 613 commandments. While these messianics like to say they also observe the commandments don't be fooled; it's a historical fact that only the Jews kept the Torah and commandments.
B. There would be no community left in the world who could read the Torah. The whole Jewish world shares the same Torah to the letter. The Jewish people have guarded this Torah for over 3000 years from when Moshe Rabeinu gave the Torah. The christians also claim to hold the Torah as sacred but let's be real besides maybe a christian professor who may have studied the Torah in university, christians don't know the Holy language.
Jews have always guarded the Torah with their life and Jewish children are already begining to read the Torah from the age of 3. For the last 2000 years Jewish people have spread all across the world from Yemen to Poland and everywhere in between and their Torah is the exactly the same.
The Jews persevered and kept the commandments and guarded the Torah against all odds and the most brutal prosecution which never ended. And specifically it was the christians nations who were most hellbent to oppress and persecute the jews and to forcibly convert the Jews.
First of all this torture is not love. To this love we say thank you but no thank you.
But mostly take a moment to realize what christianity really is. Don't be fooled by talk about how "they were not real christians"
This prosecution was the treatment Jews received from all christians historically. Research the Jewish experience through the ages in christian nations.
And this obsession to convert Jews was shared by all christians communities. And consider the affect that would have done. It would have erased God's Torah from the world heaven forbid and it would have erased the An Yisrael from the world. Think about that and that should tell you what christianity really is. And these "messianic jews" are christians make no mistake about that.
I think you should look up Luminaries from First Fruits of Zion. Good books of Jews and Rabbis throughout the ages who believe Yeshua is the Messiah.
One for Israel also has good resources for Jewish history.
Plus, I'm sorry to say this, but this giant article that you wrote, isn't unique. It's the same whiny complaint over and over.
@@johnpratts2856 😂 thank you for reading my "giant article" and thank you for your most insightful response. The way you responded to my whiny complaints was so elegant and informative - it really resonates with so much depth. But really thank you so much for substantiating the obvious truth that you have nothing. Zai gezunt as we say in Yiddish.
@@sholoy480 It's what happens when Rabbinics have no substantial evidence in their faith and play victim 24/7.
Happy Yom Kippur. 😉
@@johnpratts2856 thank you Yom Kippur was yesterday and being a holiday GD Himself instituted it is indeed a wonderful day and I'm glad to say I had the good fortune to celebrate this most Holy Day with the rest of the my Jewish brothers around the world who still celebrate Gd's Holy Days. But chabibi I'm not a victim. I'm so blessed thank GD wonderful wife wonderful kids house paid off and money in the bank. Thanks to GD, I'm doing really 😃
Just hands off our religion you cultural appropriator!
Shalom Rabi' Shulam 🇮🇹🇮🇱💕
Isaiah 53 ✡️🕎/Daniel 7:9-11) In the 2nd coming Jesus (The Word Of Adonai) will re establish the 3rd Temple from Heaven.....