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I’ve been living off grid for 3 years now . I have had great success with these small wind turbines. They produce over 70% of my power . Solar only works in daylight and output is reduced in cloudy overcast days. The wind on the prairies blows day and night . It’s not unusual for me to wake up and have my battery charge levels higher than when I went to bed . This has been my real world experience.
I think this is the first positive comment I have seen on these small turbines. How much power does your turbine produce on a good windy day in amp hours? I never see this talked about very much, and it seems to be for good reason. From what I see so far, there is no comparison to solar panels with batteries. Yes there are cloudy days, but there are also calm days. My solar array on my 16 ft long solar powered RV can charge my LiFePO4 batteries at over 100 amps at peak sun. I have 2050 watts of solar panels and 900 amp hours of lithium iron phosphate batteries. 1300 watts on the roof and 750 watts in 3 ground panels. I use about 350 amp hours of electricity a day, and solar provides it all. I have never seen a small wind tubine system that can come close to that.
@@frostyfroze7352 you just have to follow the rules and they work. 1 be in an area where you have wind. 2 1t least minimum 100 yards from any obstruction and 10 yards above any obstruction. Note there are terrain features that can greatly improve air low. I.G two building that make a natural funnel orientated to the prevailing winds. or cliffs
@@frostyfroze7352these aerodynamic horizontal-axis wind turbines *_really_* can't cope with turbulence. Take a piece of paper, sketch the ground & a tree, then draw a line 45° up from the top of the tree to double the tree's height & from there back down again at about 0.5°. If your horizontal-axis wind turbine is in that shadowed area you won't get useful power from it, also if it's less than about 30 feet (10 metres) above the ground it's not going to work well. The cruder vertical-axis Savonius types don't produce _anything like_ as much power for their size but they're more tolerant of turbulence (basically if your clothes flap about a Savonius will work) so at the end of a week you'll have more Watt-hours in your battery unless you're somewhere absolutely ideal - at sea, on top of a bare mountain, a salt lake, prairie, that sort of thing. The tiny (200W -ish) ones work better because they're light enough to react to gusts but even they're not brilliant unless your terrain is ideal.
Off grid 95% of my life (I'm 66) still using one wind turbine I've had over 40 years. I'm in Alaska, not much sun during winter. Things blocking wind from your turbine are equal to putting solar panels in the shade. Big turbines can cause big problems. I'd rather have a few small ones than one big one. It helps if you want to use wind, to learn about Alternating Current. I run 12 volt AC next to the batteries and rectify it to DC there. This way I have minimal power loss using an outdoor 3 wire extension cord instead of loosing a lot of power running it DC from the tower to the batteries with extremely expensive heavy copper wire. I learned that the hard way after spending more on those cables than I did on the wind generator. Most of my power is solar, but it's a real nice blessing at times when I'm low on sunshine, to have bright lights on long winter nights from the winter winds. My backup gas generator died 3 years ago and I don't miss it.😊
Wow you must have a good wind turbine! The reviews I read about the ones you can buy online today are sorry as hell and it seems they rarely last more than a few months
@zulubob5824 one, owner rebuilt Air403, one homemade, and another with the blades tied down because I get to much power in high winds. Cloudy right now and bad batteries, those two turbines are what's powering this comment.
Can you post total Watt hour generation over the first month? And if a storm rips through, will be cool to see how it manages. These small units are very difficult to pull significant power from. And they seem to break easily. Will be cool to see your long term test data.
Its almost worth putting larger blades on them to get some extra spinning torque i think. Trying to get 100w in to blades that size would be a struggle id susggest
I work in wind research, and due to wind shear, it’s very challenging to achieve meaningful power generation close to the ground. I recommend checking out the GlobalWindAtlas, where you can explore the wind power potential for locations worldwide. It allows you to compare wind resources at different hub heights. For example, in urban Las Vegas, you can expect about 70 W/m² of rotor area at a 10 m hub height and approximately 170 W/m² at 50 m. If you’re planning a turbine to produce an average of 1 kW at 10 m in urban Las Vegas, the rotor would need to be about 4.3 m in diameter.
It seems to be this is an entire video of "watt" not to do. I also have not seen any promising results from these cheap wind turbines. Also the output says 48v, if it could achieve that, which I doubt, how would that be able to charge at battery at 52v?
@@dcmtrader Nominal voltage for both turbine and battery is 48V. My assumption is turbine will reach 60 to 70V open circuit. As well as an old car generator gives 14 to 15V. Else your car battery will die. I would like to see the turbine in a better location, else they did an ok job.
I Think I will go with your (Will P's) DIY Solar setup for my first project and then possibly supplement it with a wind turbine just to see what happens. I think a change of turbine placement will make a significant difference production.
A windmill should be placed 30 feet above any obstacle within 100 yards of it for best performance. And wind flows downward at approximately 3 degrees.
I'm retired now, but my background is in construction and building maintenance, and after watching you now for about a year, I have to say I'm impressed with everything you guys do. Very thorough and well thought out. Top notch!
I live off grid in a solar powered RV. I have been following the evolution of these small wind turbines with great interest. Unfortunately, the high hopes of the new turbine owners are never met. Much lower than expected power output, the need to get it high in the air for it to work well, the short life span of some components and the cost and hassle to replace those parts means that it is likely a better idea to just buy a few more long lasting solar panels and a charge controller to add to your existing system.
For the most part I'd agree about these turbines. The idea behind them is intriguing though. I can about double my solar system before going to 24v or 48v makes sense. And / or use a DC to DC charge controller and just use the tractor or vehicle if need be.
@@NYCamper62 I have sixteen 100 watts panels on mine. It's 24 volts. I used four 24 v 100 aH lithium batteries and four 31 series lead acid batteries on the solar part. My wind generator has sixteen marine batteries on it. It's 12 volts because they sent me a 12 volts turbine. I had ordered a 24 volts one and the sticker on it said 24 v, but it's a 12 volts one. It has been up for almost two years. I haven't had to do anything to it. It's mainly for winter when the sun ☀️ is less strong and it's cloudy here a lot. I'm going to build another one. I already have five blades and a hub, which will help output in lower wind speeds. My 600 watts B&C wind turbine was putting out 320 watts earlier, for a couple of hours. I live on a hill, where it works pretty well most of the time.
I bought a 400 watt version of that turbine last year. I expected 200 watts. I only saw my inline meter charge a whopping 1.5 watts during an extremely stormy day. It is roof art.
La mayoría de los videos que he visto con esas turbinas chinas dan resultados negativos, estoy armando un proyecto con un motor Inverter de lavadora, genera hasta 8 amperios a 24 voltios, pero el torque es bastante fuerte, por lo que las aspas deben tener la capacidad de atrapar mucho aire para poder contrarrestar el torque.
Almost 50 years ago I bought a plot of land and build a house of my own design. All the labor was mine and my wife. I am harmonizing my memories with your videos. GOOD FOR YOU GUYS. #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
The beauty of you setting it up is it gives everyone an understanding about where to set it up. Possibly put up a ‘telephone pole’ in a brush like field. I really feel this has potential where you are located. Don’t give up just yet. You have the source, you just need to find it. 😊
You may have to check the manual but horizonal turbines are equipped with a brake. The brake is usually applied during excessive winds and they are usually on during installation so it doesn't back feed while hooking up the wiring. Almost all wind turbines work effortlessly with about 5 to 6 mph winds speeds.
I bought my wind generator in March 2023, it's 600 watts. I ordered a 24 volts one, but the one they sent was 12 volts. I used it anyway. I live almost at the top of hill, so I can only have it as high as it is, 16.5 feet. The stub pipe that's concreted into the ground next to the barn was supposed to raise it to 20 feet, but it's strapped to the side of it with a chain instead because if I raise it any, it will be hit by lightning ⚡. I made and angle iron bracket that I lag screwed into the barn rafters with a U shaped piece of strap welded to it that has a long bolt on the top of the U so I can take it down if needed. I had twenty marine batteries, 100 aH each on my solar panels so I switched to four 24 v, 100 aH lithium batteries and four 31 series heavy duty lead acid batteries which were brand new. Full charged is 26.6 v. I took the other 16 marine batteries and used them on the wind generator. I just welded the flange to a 16 foot piece of 11/2 inch ID pipe. I used a 50 foot #12 extension cord for the cable, which is soldered to the three red wires. It's connected to a 250 amps rectifier and the 16 batteries. So, I had to get a second inverter, for the wind generator. It storms a lot here in Oklahoma, and the wind comes afterwards but sometimes before too. The wind generator I bought, they sent the wrong crush plate which I had to re drill the holes, and they sent cheesy soft bolts, which I replaced with grade 8 bolts, long enough to go all the way through the hub I made them long enough to use locknuts on the back side of the hub. I also added fender washers and lock washers to the bolt heads. There was a small twister 🌀 last spring that hit it and ripped the aluminum tail fin in half. I made a new one out of old amplifier cover which was steel. The wind was 96 mph for about five minutes, and the meter was showing 1055 watts for about five minutes. It still works fine. I am using sixteen 100 watts panels for the solar wired in 8 pairs to a 40 amp Epever charge controller and the 600 aH 24 volts battery 🔋 bank. I had to install the power and control boards in my Aims Power inverter and charger 24 volts to 120 volts when it overheated in August of 2021. It has worked since then with no problem. I have a set of five blades and a hub for the next wind generator which are balanced to 144 mph. I plan on going to 48 volts, so the battery 🔋 you're going to give away looks very interesting 🤔👍😎.
As an electrician you did an excellent job by adding heat shrink any area that might short like he was pointing out we would use an anti-short which is a little piece of plastic that wraps around the wires slide in to MC metal conduit there's flexi and there's non flexible metal conduit what I'm referring to is the flexible metal conduit you put the anti short around all your wires so when you put your ends on the end of the conduit itself does not cut into the wires while being moved around or manipulated,
I have mounted my wind chargers on a telescoping post , so I can raise and lower them for maintenance. A 48 volt system is a really cost effective system to start with.
Those micro turbines only work in really really windy areas. I have a 1kw SM2 turbine and extended the tail. It has got a peak of 760W in 100 kmh winds. Much better to just go solar 👍
Off grid Australia here have solar 24V and a separate 12V system for LED house lighting, bought a cheap wind turbine and have found that it keeps my batteries topped up at night like a trickle charger hence improving battery life.
I have both, wind and solar. The Sun 🌞 is a lot more dependable than the wind. But I enjoy the wind generator too, when it's running the electric blanket and coffeepot. Saves drawing power from the solar battery 🔋 bank. when solar wattage is lower in winter ❄️ . I have 1600 watts of solar panels and a 600 watts wind generator. My solar batteries are showing 26.5 volts, and the wind ones are showing 12.77 volts, at 8 p. m. As the days get shorter, I use the wind power more, keeps the voltage up on all the batteries. I have 20 lead acid batteries and four lithium batteries on my system.
I think you did a darn good job building your system. The problem is, it's never going to work. The deciding factor on wind power is always based on available wind energy. The way you've got it set up, you've got a yard ornament. Even a cheap anemometer can help with location choice. It was fun to watch anyhow.
Mount the turbine on a mast much like a flagpole that pivots at the base to allow raising and lowering. Use a mobile app like Arboreal that calculates tree heights to determine turbine mast height. The mast will need lightning suppression to send strikes into the earth.
OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS, Very nice welding practice and beads, I am planning a solar setup when I move to my property and have, like you, been toying with the idea of adding wind for those cloudy winter days. Wile I can't test yet, I have a ridge that is bare and of the times I have been to walk the property it is invariably windy. Fairly convinced that LiFePo batteries are the way and light for off grid storage given their resilience so I am adding Vatrer to my suppliers list for when it comes time to buy my main storage batteries. Thanks for the efforts at sharing your journey.👍
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"Off Grid Power" It's a good thing those trees are there to slow the wind from punishing your home. Hopefully they're all healthy and stay rooted. Thanks for sharing!
You’re dealing with two fundamental issues: - The Betz Limit - The Power in Wind equation The Betz Limit is basically a theoretical number of the maximum efficiency you can possibly get. At most, only 59.3% of the kinetic wind energy can be used to spin the turbine and generate electricity. Remember this is a theoretical limit; in practice, you’re going to be closer to 40%. The Power in Wind equation is given as: P = 1/2 x ρ x A x V³ With: P = power in Watts ρ = air density (kg/m³, at about 1.2 at sea level) A = Swept area of the blades (m²) V = Velocity of the wind So, no matter how good your turbine is, you will get in practice at most 40% of the wind energy converted to electricity. To capture the wind energy in the first place, you have two variables to increase (one in your control, the other not): swept area and wind velocity. The smaller you make the turbine, the faster you need to spin to make any meaningful energy. The only variable you control is the swept area, which means making the blades as big as possible. Note that the velocity is cubed in that equation, so you’ll generate much, much less power at low wind speeds. In other words, small wind turbines don’t work except in ideal situations (think wide open plains with constant high wind) because physics.
@@WillProwseHave you seen this guys stuff? the only dude that made sense of wind for me, and he's got the details.$300 or less wind turbines that kick butt. Let me know what you think. He has solutions for low wind, high wind scenarios, and links to what he's buying and how to wire up. It's not as simple as I thought. Lots of quirks to wind power for the average Joe like me. ruclips.net/video/QSfWnIscDTM/видео.htmlsi=bw59zMEmkV8DzFqF
@upnorthandpersonal turbulence from obstructions is the issue with these low-to-the-ground installations, your turbine needs to be twice the height of any obstruction within 100 yards (metres) or more & at least 30 feet (10 metres) off the ground 😢
@@WillProwse @PacificPinesRanch If you want a wind turbine to power an entire home that has a typical 100-200 amp service panel, you need to go Big AND Tall. To do that, you'll need at least ~2 acres of preferably Clear Land with only low-lying foliage, trees, or nearby structures. Simply take a look at any commercially installed wind turbine farm! They are always in relatively wide open areas and are all on tall enough towers to operate in the "clean linear airflow" that is well above the turbulence from the ground effect, well above any nearby trees/buildings/structures. For every 10 feet or so in additional tower and turbine height, the wind potential increases exponentially. However,.even on clear, flat land, you will not approach a worthwhile or suitable efficiency potential for positive power generation with turbine heights below ~60ft above ground level. If you are still interested, look into the Bergey Excel 10kw+ wind turbines. These are simple, direct-drive systems and have a 21 ft to 23 ft blade diameter depending on which blades are mounted. I live on 5 acres in one of the high-desert areas of California that has only low-lying Junipers and Joshua/Yucca trees, and only a few scattered tall pines less than 60ft tall. My Bergey Excel turbine is mounted atop a 100ft guyed-lattice tower on a high point of the property, as well as in a clear, open area. Consistent wind is common here, but we do have some days with dead wind/no wind, particularly during the fall months. However, the turbine needs just 6-7mph of wind to start, and at the 100ft elevation, this wind speed is quite common even when there is a barely perceptible breeze at ground level. Even during a calm day and in the calmness of the evening hours with a barely perceptible breeze at ground level, it will consistently spin at a low whirr that is fast enough to engage the inverter and provide usable power, and will typically spin consistently at a moderate rate all night long. The Bergey Excel turbines have a built-in auto-furling mechanism attached to the tail wind vane, as well as a cable with a simple crank system at the base of the tower to engage the furling system in the event of consistently high winds above 85+ mph. IIRC, the system is safety rated for up to 120+ mph winds. This system provides up to 135% of our required power for an active 1,900 SQ FT, 3-bed/2-bath home, which includes a 650 SF detached woodshop & machine shop. It has been installed since 2007 and paid for itself in roughly 7 years. It is a simple direct-drive alternator/generator with no gearbox, so the only basic maintenance needed is replacement of the front and rear sealed shaft bearings and the pivot bearing. It's very dusty here in the high desert as opposed to the prairies/grasslands, and unfortunately this contributes to a bit shorter bearing life. In addition, for dusty environments, they use a clear protective tape on the front & leading edges of each laminated fiberglass blade to prevent deterioration from the "sand-blasting" effect of the rotors cutting through the dust-filled air. Depending on UV/precipitation/ice/snow/heat/cold/dust exposure, this protective film needs to be replaced every 5-10 years, which has been performed twice so far at the cost of ~$350 each time. $150 of that was a flat rate tower-climbing fee, then about 1.25 hours labor to replace the film on all 3 blades. The bearings needed replacement in late 2022 at the cost of $560 with installation labor. However, we offset these costs and also supplemented our monthly & annual income by leasing our tower to T-Mobile cellular. They installed cellular repeater antennas to the tower which are powered by T-taps into the turbine's power wires that then feed into their own small inverter, power supply, and backup battery mounted on the tower with the cellular antennas. Cellular antennas are relatively directional or "hyper-cardioid" in dispersion in the horizontal plane, and even more directional in the vertical plane. We requested that none of the antennas be pointed in any proximity towards our home, and they complied. Even with this added power draw, the turbine still produces an average monthly excess of 15% to 30% above & beyond our needs. When the system was installed in 2007 it cost roughly $51k. However, at that time there were combined Federal, State, and local utility company Rebates which cut the total out-of-pocket cost basically in half to just $26k. For the area we live in, the wind turbine system was more efficient and more cost-effective than an equivalent output system using solar PV panels...and we have PLENTY of sunshine here. A good part of that efficiency is the potential for the wind turbine system to produce power 24/7, as well as being less subject to seasonal changes in sun exposure times, and not being affected by snowfall or other PV panel obstructions. Since the system's installation in 2007, we have never paid a power bill, and in fact, for about half of that time and continuing to this day, we have a net positive income from the system. For anyone that may be curious, since its installation in 2007, we have never witnessed or experienced any type of bird strike or bird fatality due to the wind turbine, and I can guarantee that we have a plethora of all types of birds in this area! However, it's possible that the local coyotes or other predators (including road-runners/hawks/raptors/owls/golden eagles) have removed any of this evidence before we've had the chance to see it. So this isn't definitive. However, I CAN say that we have witnessed MANY a birds' demise due to the hunting of the above-mentioned natural predators, completely unrelated to the wind turbine, so there's that. Unfortunately, the trial "wind turbine system installation" demonstrated in this video was an exercise in failure from the very beginning due to lack of research and understanding of the conditions & requirements that need to be met before even considering such a project and installation. Even an ornamental windmill will fail to consistently spin when surrounded by wildly turbulent ground-effect air. In fact, the position where their turbine was mounted on the corner of the shipping container was potentially the worst possible place for it. :/ A basic study in fluid dynamics and airflow/air currents around & over common building structures would have revealed this. Updrafts, downdrafts, vortexes, and turbulence are no friends to a wind turbine! :/
I like that you placed the heat shrink sleeve into the wire egress hole. Notice the wire size determined the maximum current flow for the generator. While the manufacturer claimed it is a 1600 watt generator the output voltage would have to be about ... Let's start with the battery voltage. 48 volts I think. 1600 watts ÷ 48 volts = 34 amps The AWG wire size chart for 34 amps is 6 AWG wire. The wire coming out from the generator looks like it might be smaller than 6 AWG wire. I think at best they use 14 AWG wire and on some of the generators I've seen wire that is 16 AWG. Grant it the length of very short. I'm using at least 14 AWG wire to get down to the charge controller, hoping the input voltage to the charge controller is way higher than the battery voltage. Going from the charge controller to the battery should be at last 6 AWG wire. We will have to test the maximum sustained current level to finalize the size of the wire. The longer the wire going to the battery the thicker it needs to be.
You may have forgotten that the amperage has to be divided by 3. Therefore, 45 amps would be 15 per wire. A 14 gauge wire is sufficient for that, since you're only dealing with 34 amps. That's like 11 amps per wire. I used #12 on mine, and it works fine. The short length of #14 doesn't matter.
Just been recommended as a watch, and have to say the work you've both put in isawesome, not afraid to get your hands dirty, and you're very relaxing to watch
OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAY I own a Vatrer battery, got it for my RV. Works great and has low temp cutoff with a built in heater. Perfect Nor-Cali.
If you want to get above the tree line, use a steel tube CB antenna. They're cheap to build compared to others, and easy to install since they are light enough to assemble on the ground and stand up, and strong enough to handle that little turbine. Plus you could also add a lightning rod, wifi antenna, and tv antenna. Wouldn't hurt to have a cell booster for emergencies also.
NGL i absolutely love that LIKE MYSELF you not only wear a welding HELMET but also a respirator ! GOOD JOB . all you need now is a NECK BIB and youre set to WELD THE WORLD TOGETHER!
also side note ... youre gonna need at least 4 or 5 of those turbines just to keep a 100watt bulb lit for 24 hrs off that battery. Im very well versed at off-grid setups if you ever need a hand let me know (electrical & structural engineer )
I live on the ocean, so no tree blockage, however I am from Oregon originally, and I’m thinkin you top one of those big trees and cut off some limbs just below, and mount that thing right up there above the canopy. The coastal range is so beautiful, and I love the container home idea too, almost did it myself…. Cheers and safe sailing !!
OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS Good content. Hope to learn from your experiences. Quality battery storage is a "no-brainer" because many different forms of energy can be used to supply it. I aim to rely less on the grid and wind and solar are very promising in the Texas Panhandle so that is the route I plan to take. Experience is the best teacher y'all and I hope all works out well for you.
OFF GRID POWER! Oh man, this was exactly the video that I needed to watch! I recently inherited a small cottage/cabin when my father passed and I have been wondering if a wind turbine would be a possible option to provide backup power to some essential items. The house is nestled very deep in the Appalachian of Pennsylvania and the winds are relentless. I can't even have wind chimes, lol. Even though my property is more open, I still think that I would have difficulty generating enough power to run my sump pump, essential lights and to charge tools. I have an array of panels but I still need to mount them (waiting on a new roof). Anyway, your video inspired me and I learned a lot! Happy Holidays everybody! #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways P.S. That shot of the sun rays coming through the pines was absolutely magical!
The wind turbines are the best that I have seen used if there is steady wind. It is great to see the most beloved "RAD" and "Burning Man" couple that I have viewed and met. So happy to see your adventures that worked out for the happiest and positive people who know the law of attraction. I however am going to bounce from one country to another but I have a very rad place for both of you to stay at in Fountain Hills, Az when you want a place to get away. Enjoy your "creation".
if you can get an old radio tower for cheap - thos old triangular towers that use some guy wires to support them - 100 feet up there may be better wind result. great vid, thanks for putting all the work into it and filming - we know this takes a ton of extra effort.
OFF GRID POWER #VATER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS I have been looking at this exact battery for my off grid project. Thank you for showing the wind option. We have been interested in its possibilities on our windy hill.
I just started watching your shows I totally inspire them I've been homeless a couple times this past year due to health issues and my car catching on fire. Maybe this is my luck chance of getting better hope I win lol. Sorry about the spelling any punctuation my phone is cracked also and I can't mash no punctuation buttons hardly
It won't work as you think its going to. All those trees attenuate the wind. You need a tower that rises well above them. Also its just plain windier up there anyway as the ground slows it down. Also do not mount it on your house. Turbines vibrate and make noise that you don't want conducting into your house. Get one of the books by Paul Gipe on the subject.
#Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways I taught myself about LiFpo battery packs and BMS recently, (before seeing this video), while converting an automobile from gasoline to electric. 144 volt system. A farmer I know could use this kind of set up to run his off grid electric fence and water well pump. Good work Pacific Pines!
Just a thought from a DIYer myself, but you should probably have put a flat plate on the post and welded it on to prevent water from getting in where the holes are around the base of the turbine unit. The post being hollow, I would have ran the power through it and not outside attached with zip tie cords. A removeable access panel that clips in place would be sufficient. Just my 2 cents.
I like LiFePo4 batteries ... got 200Ah 13.2V system with 12V output ( 20A fuse ) for charging cell phones or small car inverters (60W ) and 3000W pure sinewave inverter for anything else . I build it for power outages ( we had 3hrs no power one night , I connected cord to power bar for tv and internet and lights while neighbor hood was all dark ).
"OFF GRID POWER" HASHTAGS #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS I am looking into installing solar and battery backup for my home and this was good to see someone starting up too. Keep up the good work.
New sub here remote rural off grid Australia solar and wind , am trialling a small wind turbine at the moment have a 24V setup with a separate 12V battery bank for led system for house lighting. So far I have found that the small wind turbine keeps my batteries topped up at night hence supporting battery life , may get a more expensive one but have figured out that wind turbine alone would not provide me with my power requirements, unless I spent an very large pile of money. Great upload will follow your channel with interest.
That's one hell of a beautiful thumbnail. I'm constantly captivated by people that resemble someone else and obsessed until I figure out who it is. You were kind of easy and straightforward. Probably a little before your time but you really remind me of an actress from the 1980s named Sean Young. I just googled her and yes, yes you do. You're welcome. 🤭
You might consider having an expert climb the tallest tree near your home and toping it so your can mount the wind generator up at the tops of trees for better performance,. Even consider topping the closest trees around your wind generator help clear wind access for the wind generator. Nice video.
Good looking battery, it's recommended to setup a 51,2 volt battery to work with a 51,2 volt charge controller and inverter. By using it in a 48 vdc setup will have battery constantly run at low voltage.
So, get a tree climber like deer hunters use. Climb one of those tall pines, cut off a few limbs to make a good opening, attach a small platform, and mount your wind turbine up there. Or, you might be able to build a get an experienced tree climber to do that for you.
"OFF GRID POWER" AKA Pacific Pines Ranch, it's interesting that you could not get the wind to cooperate with the turbine and the #VATRER battery. The reason I moved inland from the Oregon coast was to get away from the wind! I hope the #VATRERGIVEAWAYS goes well. Thanks for the video.
alot of ppl are new to DC-volt power thanks to alot of factors around the world .. me, i am trying to learn it to run a shade house. sadly the groups im in over the last few years are giving me the same basic info that i already know as its not rocket science, but honestly teh Voltage and type of wiring used is, for a better and safer use. i can see the set up you have used, pause the video and draw it down, but not really sure why used a larger classed wire connected from turbine to were ever they go. a end or mid schematic in vids , i may start asking this on most DC now as it been helpful in some, and why certain grades used are better.. so people dont set fire to their stuff.. which i have personally seen in utilities .. cuase it shorted out or over heated the wrong size connection or bad crimp vids chill, cozy and clearly keep it up
Great video as always... Something to consider adding is a safety feature for Wind Turbans and that's a Wind Break, Google it. What a wind break is, is a way for the turban to be controlled if it's getting too much wind. It's typically resistors, like a heating element, that the energy is diverted too so it won't overcharge the battery, despite the BMS. Also it's a way to cut power from the Wind Turban too. Seems to me that a bridge rectifier needs to be added as well to control the amount of energy the Turban can produce. And something about Phase seems to ring a few bells that I think the Bridge Rectifier aids with too. Typically I've seen the Bridge Rectifier attached to the 3 leads that leave the turban then a different wire is added after that, but I'm sure you can add one inside near the Battery too. I seem to recall an issue with connecting the Turban directly to the battery. I could be wrong, and things may have changed, it's been a few years since last I researched Wind Turbans so take my comment with a huge grain of Salt... Good luck with your project, I look forward to seeing what you get into next...
I did wonder why you were fitting a turbine in somewhere sheltered by tree's. Where i live is perfect with no obstacles other than a few trees around the house. 🤔💚💛❤️ You can get more efficient blades. Look at the one that looks like a spiral. It can be used at any angle 💚👍
Good job🎉 I would attach the Windvane to a top of a tree. Saw the top off to get a flat pad. Create a bucket like metal base to cover the tree top with pre drilled holes.
Our local radio club bought a similar wind turbine to setup and charge the battery bank but as it turned out the turbine itself was totally useless. It was mounted in clear space and needed min of 30 to 40 knot winds just to turn the blades and even then it wasn't turning fast enough to produce a decent charging power. So I personally suggest you go Solar as well. At least that way you will have power just from the daylight and maybe a backup at night with the wind Turbine if the wind is blowing hard enough.
You may want to consider a few new options. Too either try and put your wind generator at the top of a taller tree and run power lines from it to the house or cutting down some of the trees to get more straight line wind generation. If that works then buy more wind generators and set up a field of wind generators in either series or parallel to increase your amperage to charge your batteries and then add solar to the same area to double dip of the gains to use renewable energy to sustain your energy consumption. The trees that you fall can always be used to warm your place or to create wood & lumber material to build with on future projects because a new homestead will always have needs of new storage or build materials. I enjoy your content.
@Pacific Pines Ranch - First time watching your videos. I was happy when you two knew to grind off the galvanizing before welding. And I'm glad you guys are wearing respirators. Not throwing any shade. Safety question. Is the balcony on your house reinforced or does it have a specific engineered weight rating? I've seen too many wooden balconies safety rated for four people with chairs plus a barbecue grill end up overloaded and suddenly collapse. They end up failing when the parents leave for a weekend and their kids throw a party with 20 kids dancing on the balcony until the balcony and kids go crashing to the ground. Good experimentation with the wind turbine.
Great video and a way to think outside the box (pun intended) for your off-grid power needs. Having a wind turbine is an excellent opinion #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
I like this idea of solar power. I hope my family and my neighbors can make something similar to do a clean energy environment. God bless you guys. Keep making the difference on the world 🌎 #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
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☹ You will have to heat and cool the trailer so the battiers don't get to hot in the summer or to cold in the winter. The power out put of one wind generator wont do the job. I did like your install it was a good job.
I think the seasonal winds change direction and for six months out of the year your turbine may be productive. Put some solar panels on top of that shipping container and produce electricity year round. I was delighted to learn that battery can output 100 amps continuous as I wish to power a remote workshop and have the ability to use a welder.
I found your site, OFF GRID POWER, fro a RUclips suggestion. I enjoyed the post. I am looking into battery backups and solar power for emergency backup use. I never considered wind and I was not surprised the little turbine did not perform well. They do not seem to have very good reviews online. I also follow Will Prowse and his RUclips Channel and am learning so much. Thank you. #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS
Chop-off 4 (or more) tree-tops. Build a platform on those tree-tops. Put a small tower on the platform (or just use the mast you’re using). For extra security, run some guy-cables to the trees. It’s a lot of effort (and money), but it will work. Good luck.
Might wanna put a lot more weld on that base mount. Maybe a couple of gussets. The top of the box member is a long way away and the moment arm can generate a lot of force.
Nice job with your project. I am currently awaiting a Fablestoryem 10000 watt wind Turbine, to supplement my 640w solar array. I think your building are with in falling distance of tree's. Pick one to mount on wooden beam, wind speed is higher above 50-100ft of ground level. Additionally a ground should be added to your galvanized pole. Solar would help, some panels charge even with cloudy skies. I use RENOGY
Great video, will be nice to see when the wind shifts if that little turbine produces power. The battery pack looks great for an off grid power solution #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
The thought if this working inside a city would be fantastic. My community has an ordinance against wind turbines!, but with quieter and newer technology…..ordinances can be amended.
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i have watched 3 videos in the last 3 years of 3 hopeful people putting up wind turbines, and every single one of the videos ended with "huh, I guess I should have just bought solar"
there are crimp connectors that come with the dielectric grease already in them. I've seen phone installers use them when the landline was truly using "landlines" :-)
If you triangulate supports from the two set points next to each other and the one directly across from them , you would be able to raise the windmill up into the air quite a bit. Using the extra box steel would be perfect! A nice solar array could accompany it as well 😊❤! The combination of that along with a generator and battery 🔋 bank would probably meet your needs. Hopefully lol 😆 The higher you get it, the stronger the wind. 🌬️ 💨 Believe it or not you’ll still get some solar energy during the winter months as well! ☀️ Are you considering a split level heat pump? Just curious 😅 If I haven’t mentioned it before you are a gifted welder and I am totally jealous lol 😂! I have tried and tried. I was in factory maintenance for years and still I don’t have the nice dime rolls you do! It’s refreshing to see a couple determined to make it all work! My parents have a large propane tank that powers their generator as a backup for the grid. Best of luck!
I have nowhere near enough solar to not be grid tie, but having a few rackmount batteries for blackouts to run the critical devices would be awesome. OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS
Wind generator, an eternal source of energy from nature, exploit and use it. I think it should be hung high to catch the wind better. I see it hanging there, it seems a bit low. Very interesting video. Thank you.
Thank you for your video it has been a thought of mine too if it is going to work. I hope for you that it will workout, i am thinking about installing one around the house on a highrise building where I live. I am excited to see how the follow up video will turn out for you. 🙂
Mines been running constanly for a year so far no problems swing bearing has a little noise will replace that tho not bad for the time in a marine invironment still cranking now
Living on the beach this would definitely help as we always lose power every year. Been following the build for awhile, can't wait to start my container house build. I think I'd personally see about adding another 20-50ft of pole to get to those higher winds that wouldn't be blocked by the thicker tree foliage at the lower height. Off Grid Power would be great especially during the colder months. #VatrerPower
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OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS Interesting video, it would be nice to see an hybrid system based on solar panels and wind turbine, also upgrading the size of the battery pack.
Off Grid Power #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways Good luck with the windmill, but raising it higher is probably the best option. It doesn’t have to clear the tree lines - you’ll still get significant gains with every bit of height.
Look up "Katabatic winds", that is the source of the Wind Energy you are looking to tap. It is specific to your location, as it is the wind that flows down a mountain. And, yes, it is definitely above the treetops, but not by much. It will spin that little turbine of yours so fast that It melts down in a couple of weeks. Probably easiest to get it up there using an old TV antenna type of set-up, held in place by guy wires. The kind of set-up people used to use when TV was analog, and it was better to catch signals just above the trees where an antenna was mounted with an electrically operated rotating rotor that was adjusted until the best signal was captured. DO NOT FORGET to properly ground everything in case of lightning.
I just purchased the same model wind turbine with the same idea as an experiment to cover power that solar is not getting during the short winter months. I have a 800watt solar powered off-grid barn setup with a 24v/100a battery, did run out of power a couple times during cloudy days that were back to back preventing the charging from completing. I was planning on not using the provided wind charger and their changer does not have a dumpload out which with can harm the wind turbine I am told. #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
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I’ve been living off grid for 3 years now . I have had great success with these small wind turbines. They produce over 70% of my power . Solar only works in daylight and output is reduced in cloudy overcast days. The wind on the prairies blows day and night . It’s not unusual for me to wake up and have my battery charge levels higher than when I went to bed . This has been my real world experience.
I think this is the first positive comment I have seen on these small turbines. How much power does your turbine produce on a good windy day in amp hours? I never see this talked about very much, and it seems to be for good reason. From what I see so far, there is no comparison to solar panels with batteries. Yes there are cloudy days, but there are also calm days. My solar array on my 16 ft long solar powered RV can charge my LiFePO4 batteries at over 100 amps at peak sun. I have 2050 watts of solar panels and 900 amp hours of lithium iron phosphate batteries. 1300 watts on the roof and 750 watts in 3 ground panels. I use about 350 amp hours of electricity a day, and solar provides it all. I have never seen a small wind tubine system that can come close to that.
Pls do make make a video on how you are successful with these small wind toys, you could help out a lot ppl
@@frostyfroze7352 you just have to follow the rules and they work. 1 be in an area where you have wind. 2 1t least minimum 100 yards from any obstruction and 10 yards above any obstruction. Note there are terrain features that can greatly improve air low. I.G two building that make a natural funnel orientated to the prevailing winds. or cliffs
@@frostyfroze7352these aerodynamic horizontal-axis wind turbines *_really_* can't cope with turbulence.
Take a piece of paper, sketch the ground & a tree, then draw a line 45° up from the top of the tree to double the tree's height & from there back down again at about 0.5°. If your horizontal-axis wind turbine is in that shadowed area you won't get useful power from it, also if it's less than about 30 feet (10 metres) above the ground it's not going to work well.
The cruder vertical-axis Savonius types don't produce _anything like_ as much power for their size but they're more tolerant of turbulence (basically if your clothes flap about a Savonius will work) so at the end of a week you'll have more Watt-hours in your battery unless you're somewhere absolutely ideal - at sea, on top of a bare mountain, a salt lake, prairie, that sort of thing.
The tiny (200W -ish) ones work better because they're light enough to react to gusts but even they're not brilliant unless your terrain is ideal.
Wait, are you telling us that if one lives in a windy place, a wind turbine can produce power?
Off grid 95% of my life (I'm 66) still using one wind turbine I've had over 40 years. I'm in Alaska, not much sun during winter. Things blocking wind from your turbine are equal to putting solar panels in the shade. Big turbines can cause big problems. I'd rather have a few small ones than one big one. It helps if you want to use wind, to learn about Alternating Current. I run 12 volt AC next to the batteries and rectify it to DC there. This way I have minimal power loss using an outdoor 3 wire extension cord instead of loosing a lot of power running it DC from the tower to the batteries with extremely expensive heavy copper wire. I learned that the hard way after spending more on those cables than I did on the wind generator. Most of my power is solar, but it's a real nice blessing at times when I'm low on sunshine, to have bright lights on long winter nights from the winter winds. My backup gas generator died 3 years ago and I don't miss it.😊
Wow you must have a good wind turbine! The reviews I read about the ones you can buy online today are sorry as hell and it seems they rarely last more than a few months
@zulubob5824 one, owner rebuilt Air403, one homemade, and another with the blades tied down because I get to much power in high winds. Cloudy right now and bad batteries, those two turbines are what's powering this comment.
Can you post total Watt hour generation over the first month? And if a storm rips through, will be cool to see how it manages. These small units are very difficult to pull significant power from. And they seem to break easily. Will be cool to see your long term test data.
Its almost worth putting larger blades on them to get some extra spinning torque i think. Trying to get 100w in to blades that size would be a struggle id susggest
I work in wind research, and due to wind shear, it’s very challenging to achieve meaningful power generation close to the ground. I recommend checking out the GlobalWindAtlas, where you can explore the wind power potential for locations worldwide. It allows you to compare wind resources at different hub heights. For example, in urban Las Vegas, you can expect about 70 W/m² of rotor area at a 10 m hub height and approximately 170 W/m² at 50 m.
If you’re planning a turbine to produce an average of 1 kW at 10 m in urban Las Vegas, the rotor would need to be about 4.3 m in diameter.
It seems to be this is an entire video of "watt" not to do. I also have not seen any promising results from these cheap wind turbines.
Also the output says 48v, if it could achieve that, which I doubt, how would that be able to charge at battery at 52v?
@@dcmtrader Nominal voltage for both turbine and battery is 48V. My assumption is turbine will reach 60 to 70V open circuit. As well as an old car generator gives 14 to 15V. Else your car battery will die.
I would like to see the turbine in a better location, else they did an ok job.
I Think I will go with your (Will P's) DIY Solar setup for my first project and then possibly supplement it with a wind turbine just to see what happens. I think a change of turbine placement will make a significant difference production.
A windmill should be placed 30 feet above any obstacle within 100 yards of it for best performance. And wind flows downward at approximately 3 degrees.
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I'm retired now, but my background is in construction and building maintenance, and after watching you now for about a year, I have to say I'm impressed with everything you guys do. Very thorough and well thought out. Top notch!
For any Windmill generator to be highly effective it must be above the tree line. 👍👍🤠
I live off grid in a solar powered RV. I have been following the evolution of these small wind turbines with great interest. Unfortunately, the high hopes of the new turbine owners are never met. Much lower than expected power output, the need to get it high in the air for it to work well, the short life span of some components and the cost and hassle to replace those parts means that it is likely a better idea to just buy a few more long lasting solar panels and a charge controller to add to your existing system.
I maxed out on the amount of solar panels that I can hook to the charge controller, then added a wind generator.
For the most part I'd agree about these turbines. The idea behind them is intriguing though.
I can about double my solar system before going to 24v or 48v makes sense. And / or use a DC to DC charge controller and just use the tractor or vehicle if need be.
@@NYCamper62 I have sixteen 100 watts panels on mine. It's 24 volts. I used four 24 v 100 aH lithium batteries and four 31 series lead acid batteries on the solar part. My wind generator has sixteen marine batteries on it. It's 12 volts because they sent me a 12 volts turbine. I had ordered a 24 volts one and the sticker on it said 24 v, but it's a 12 volts one. It has been up for almost two years. I haven't had to do anything to it. It's mainly for winter when the sun ☀️ is less strong and it's cloudy here a lot. I'm going to build another one. I already have five blades and a hub, which will help output in lower wind speeds. My 600 watts B&C wind turbine was putting out 320 watts earlier, for a couple of hours. I live on a hill, where it works pretty well most of the time.
I bought a 400 watt version of that turbine last year. I expected 200 watts. I only saw my inline meter charge a whopping 1.5 watts during an extremely stormy day. It is roof art.
See my comment above uninstallation. You need a tower in most instances, if you put it on the roof it is “roof art.”
Yes they need to take down some trees to let the wind through.
La mayoría de los videos que he visto con esas turbinas chinas dan resultados negativos, estoy armando un proyecto con un motor Inverter de lavadora, genera hasta 8 amperios a 24 voltios, pero el torque es bastante fuerte, por lo que las aspas deben tener la capacidad de atrapar mucho aire para poder contrarrestar el torque.
I bought the 600 watts version, and I routinely get 250-320 watts in a good 25 mph wind. In a 35 mph steady wind, it'll be 350- 400 watts.
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The beauty of you setting it up is it gives everyone an understanding about where to set it up. Possibly put up a ‘telephone pole’ in a brush like field. I really feel this has potential where you are located. Don’t give up just yet. You have the source, you just need to find it. 😊
You may have to check the manual but horizonal turbines are equipped with a brake. The brake is usually applied during excessive winds and they are usually on during installation so it doesn't back feed while hooking up the wiring. Almost all wind turbines work effortlessly with about 5 to 6 mph winds speeds.
I bought my wind generator in March 2023, it's 600 watts. I ordered a 24 volts one, but the one they sent was 12 volts. I used it anyway. I live almost at the top of hill, so I can only have it as high as it is, 16.5 feet. The stub pipe that's concreted into the ground next to the barn was supposed to raise it to 20 feet, but it's strapped to the side of it with a chain instead because if I raise it any, it will be hit by lightning ⚡. I made and angle iron bracket that I lag screwed into the barn rafters with a U shaped piece of strap welded to it that has a long bolt on the top of the U so I can take it down if needed. I had twenty marine batteries, 100 aH each on my solar panels so I switched to four 24 v, 100 aH lithium batteries and four 31 series heavy duty lead acid batteries which were brand new. Full charged is 26.6 v. I took the other 16 marine batteries and used them on the wind generator. I just welded the flange to a 16 foot piece of 11/2 inch ID pipe. I used a 50 foot #12 extension cord for the cable, which is soldered to the three red wires. It's connected to a 250 amps rectifier and the 16 batteries. So, I had to get a second inverter, for the wind generator. It storms a lot here in Oklahoma, and the wind comes afterwards but sometimes before too. The wind generator I bought, they sent the wrong crush plate which I had to re drill the holes, and they sent cheesy soft bolts, which I replaced with grade 8 bolts, long enough to go all the way through the hub I made them long enough to use locknuts on the back side of the hub. I also added fender washers and lock washers to the bolt heads. There was a small twister 🌀 last spring that hit it and ripped the aluminum tail fin in half. I made a new one out of old amplifier cover which was steel. The wind was 96 mph for about five minutes, and the meter was showing 1055 watts for about five minutes. It still works fine. I am using sixteen 100 watts panels for the solar wired in 8 pairs to a 40 amp Epever charge controller and the 600 aH 24 volts battery 🔋 bank. I had to install the power and control boards in my Aims Power inverter and charger 24 volts to 120 volts when it overheated in August of 2021. It has worked since then with no problem. I have a set of five blades and a hub for the next wind generator which are balanced to 144 mph. I plan on going to 48 volts, so the battery 🔋 you're going to give away looks very interesting 🤔👍😎.
As an electrician you did an excellent job by adding heat shrink any area that might short like he was pointing out we would use an anti-short which is a little piece of plastic that wraps around the wires slide in to MC metal conduit there's flexi and there's non flexible metal conduit what I'm referring to is the flexible metal conduit you put the anti short around all your wires so when you put your ends on the end of the conduit itself does not cut into the wires while being moved around or manipulated,
I have mounted my wind chargers on a telescoping post , so I can raise and lower them for maintenance. A 48 volt system is a really cost effective system to start with.
Get some climbing spikes and mount it to the top of one of the tall trees. Best tower ever.
Was waiting for someone to mention that. 👍
Those micro turbines only work in really really windy areas. I have a 1kw SM2 turbine and extended the tail. It has got a peak of 760W in 100 kmh winds. Much better to just go solar 👍
Off grid Australia here have solar 24V and a separate 12V system for LED house lighting, bought a cheap wind turbine and have found that it keeps my batteries topped up at night like a trickle charger hence improving battery life.
@@TheSilmarillian Not if they are liFePO4, which does NOT like being held at full charge. If using lead acid then it is just throwing money away.
I have both, wind and solar. The Sun 🌞 is a lot more dependable than the wind. But I enjoy the wind generator too, when it's running the electric blanket and coffeepot. Saves drawing power from the solar battery 🔋 bank. when solar wattage is lower in winter ❄️ . I have 1600 watts of solar panels and a 600 watts wind generator. My solar batteries are showing 26.5 volts, and the wind ones are showing 12.77 volts, at 8 p. m. As the days get shorter, I use the wind power more, keeps the voltage up on all the batteries. I have 20 lead acid batteries and four lithium batteries on my system.
@@DavidPotter-k1d I agree ... Wind Power is more fun and does work well as a backup in low sun conditions. It's exciting to watch in typhoon winds 👍
I think you did a darn good job building your system.
The problem is, it's never going to work.
The deciding factor on wind power is always based on available wind energy.
The way you've got it set up, you've got a yard ornament.
Even a cheap anemometer can help with location choice.
It was fun to watch anyhow.
Mount the turbine on a mast much like a flagpole that pivots at the base to allow raising and lowering. Use a mobile app like Arboreal that calculates tree heights to determine turbine mast height. The mast will need lightning suppression to send strikes into the earth.
OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS, Very nice welding practice and beads, I am planning a solar setup when I move to my property and have, like you, been toying with the idea of adding wind for those cloudy winter days. Wile I can't test yet, I have a ridge that is bare and of the times I have been to walk the property it is invariably windy. Fairly convinced that LiFePo batteries are the way and light for off grid storage given their resilience so I am adding Vatrer to my suppliers list for when it comes time to buy my main storage batteries. Thanks for the efforts at sharing your journey.👍
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I have heard wind turbines cause buildings to vibrate, also they work best when 30' higher than surrounding objects. Good luck.
I wrapped the pole with a double layer of carpet where it fits against the barn bracket, working great. Pretty quiet too...
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It's a good thing those trees are there to slow the wind from punishing your home. Hopefully they're all healthy and stay rooted. Thanks for sharing!
You’re dealing with two fundamental issues:
- The Betz Limit
- The Power in Wind equation
The Betz Limit is basically a theoretical number of the maximum efficiency you can possibly get. At most, only 59.3% of the kinetic wind energy can be used to spin the turbine and generate electricity. Remember this is a theoretical limit; in practice, you’re going to be closer to 40%.
The Power in Wind equation is given as:
P = 1/2 x ρ x A x V³
With:
P = power in Watts
ρ = air density (kg/m³, at about 1.2 at sea level)
A = Swept area of the blades (m²)
V = Velocity of the wind
So, no matter how good your turbine is, you will get in practice at most 40% of the wind energy converted to electricity. To capture the wind energy in the first place, you have two variables to increase (one in your control, the other not): swept area and wind velocity. The smaller you make the turbine, the faster you need to spin to make any meaningful energy. The only variable you control is the swept area, which means making the blades as big as possible.
Note that the velocity is cubed in that equation, so you’ll generate much, much less power at low wind speeds.
In other words, small wind turbines don’t work except in ideal situations (think wide open plains with constant high wind) because physics.
Exactly. I wish there were consumer available large turbines. Would be much more effective than these small units.
@@WillProwseHave you seen this guys stuff? the only dude that made sense of wind for me, and he's got the details.$300 or less wind turbines that kick butt. Let me know what you think. He has solutions for low wind, high wind scenarios, and links to what he's buying and how to wire up. It's not as simple as I thought. Lots of quirks to wind power for the average Joe like me. ruclips.net/video/QSfWnIscDTM/видео.htmlsi=bw59zMEmkV8DzFqF
@@WillProwse there are but costly 😊
@upnorthandpersonal turbulence from obstructions is the issue with these low-to-the-ground installations, your turbine needs to be twice the height of any obstruction within 100 yards (metres) or more & at least 30 feet (10 metres) off the ground 😢
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If you want a wind turbine to power an entire home that has a typical 100-200 amp service panel, you need to go Big AND Tall.
To do that, you'll need at least ~2 acres of preferably Clear Land with only low-lying foliage, trees, or nearby structures.
Simply take a look at any commercially installed wind turbine farm! They are always in relatively wide open areas and are all on tall enough towers to operate in the "clean linear airflow" that is well above the turbulence from the ground effect, well above any nearby trees/buildings/structures.
For every 10 feet or so in additional tower and turbine height, the wind potential increases exponentially.
However,.even on clear, flat land, you will not approach a worthwhile or suitable efficiency potential for positive power generation with turbine heights below ~60ft above ground level.
If you are still interested, look into the Bergey Excel 10kw+ wind turbines. These are simple, direct-drive systems and have a 21 ft to 23 ft blade diameter depending on which blades are mounted.
I live on 5 acres in one of the high-desert areas of California that has only low-lying Junipers and Joshua/Yucca trees, and only a few scattered tall pines less than 60ft tall.
My Bergey Excel turbine is mounted atop a 100ft guyed-lattice tower on a high point of the property, as well as in a clear, open area. Consistent wind is common here, but we do have some days with dead wind/no wind, particularly during the fall months.
However, the turbine needs just 6-7mph of wind to start, and at the 100ft elevation, this wind speed is quite common even when there is a barely perceptible breeze at ground level.
Even during a calm day and in the calmness of the evening hours with a barely perceptible breeze at ground level, it will consistently spin at a low whirr that is fast enough to engage the inverter and provide usable power, and will typically spin consistently at a moderate rate all night long.
The Bergey Excel turbines have a built-in auto-furling mechanism attached to the tail wind vane, as well as a cable with a simple crank system at the base of the tower to engage the furling system in the event of consistently high winds above 85+ mph. IIRC, the system is safety rated for up to 120+ mph winds.
This system provides up to 135% of our required power for an active 1,900 SQ FT, 3-bed/2-bath home, which includes a 650 SF detached woodshop & machine shop.
It has been installed since 2007 and paid for itself in roughly 7 years. It is a simple direct-drive alternator/generator with no gearbox, so the only basic maintenance needed is replacement of the front and rear sealed shaft bearings and the pivot bearing.
It's very dusty here in the high desert as opposed to the prairies/grasslands, and unfortunately this contributes to a bit shorter bearing life.
In addition, for dusty environments, they use a clear protective tape on the front & leading edges of each laminated fiberglass blade to prevent deterioration from the "sand-blasting" effect of the rotors cutting through the dust-filled air.
Depending on UV/precipitation/ice/snow/heat/cold/dust exposure, this protective film needs to be replaced every 5-10 years, which has been performed twice so far at the cost of ~$350 each time. $150 of that was a flat rate tower-climbing fee, then about 1.25 hours labor to replace the film on all 3 blades.
The bearings needed replacement in late 2022 at the cost of $560 with installation labor.
However, we offset these costs and also supplemented our monthly & annual income by leasing our tower to T-Mobile cellular.
They installed cellular repeater antennas to the tower which are powered by T-taps into the turbine's power wires that then feed into their own small inverter, power supply, and backup battery mounted on the tower with the cellular antennas.
Cellular antennas are relatively directional or "hyper-cardioid" in dispersion in the horizontal plane, and even more directional in the vertical plane. We requested that none of the antennas be pointed in any proximity towards our home, and they complied.
Even with this added power draw, the turbine still produces an average monthly excess of 15% to 30% above & beyond our needs.
When the system was installed in 2007 it cost roughly $51k. However, at that time there were combined Federal, State, and local utility company Rebates which cut the total out-of-pocket cost basically in half to just $26k.
For the area we live in, the wind turbine system was more efficient and more cost-effective than an equivalent output system using solar PV panels...and we have PLENTY of sunshine here.
A good part of that efficiency is the potential for the wind turbine system to produce power 24/7, as well as being less subject to seasonal changes in sun exposure times, and not being affected by snowfall or other PV panel obstructions.
Since the system's installation in 2007, we have never paid a power bill, and in fact, for about half of that time and continuing to this day, we have a net positive income from the system.
For anyone that may be curious, since its installation in 2007, we have never witnessed or experienced any type of bird strike or bird fatality due to the wind turbine, and I can guarantee that we have a plethora of all types of birds in this area!
However, it's possible that the local coyotes or other predators (including road-runners/hawks/raptors/owls/golden eagles) have removed any of this evidence before we've had the chance to see it. So this isn't definitive.
However, I CAN say that we have witnessed MANY a birds' demise due to the hunting of the above-mentioned natural predators, completely unrelated to the wind turbine, so there's that.
Unfortunately, the trial "wind turbine system installation" demonstrated in this video was an exercise in failure from the very beginning due to lack of research and understanding of the conditions & requirements that need to be met before even considering such a project and installation.
Even an ornamental windmill will fail to consistently spin when surrounded by wildly turbulent ground-effect air. In fact, the position where their turbine was mounted on the corner of the shipping container was potentially the worst possible place for it. :/
A basic study in fluid dynamics and airflow/air currents around & over common building structures would have revealed this.
Updrafts, downdrafts, vortexes, and turbulence are no friends to a wind turbine! :/
I like that you placed the heat shrink sleeve into the wire egress hole. Notice the wire size determined the maximum current flow for the generator.
While the manufacturer claimed it is a 1600 watt generator the output voltage would have to be about ... Let's start with the battery voltage.
48 volts I think.
1600 watts ÷ 48 volts = 34 amps
The AWG wire size chart for 34 amps is 6 AWG wire.
The wire coming out from the generator looks like it might be smaller than 6 AWG wire. I think at best they use 14 AWG wire and on some of the generators I've seen wire that is 16 AWG.
Grant it the length of very short. I'm using at least 14 AWG wire to get down to the charge controller, hoping the input voltage to the charge controller is way higher than the battery voltage. Going from the charge controller to the battery should be at last 6 AWG wire. We will have to test the maximum sustained current level to finalize the size of the wire. The longer the wire going to the battery the thicker it needs to be.
You may have forgotten that the amperage has to be divided by 3. Therefore, 45 amps would be 15 per wire. A 14 gauge wire is sufficient for that, since you're only dealing with 34 amps. That's like 11 amps per wire. I used #12 on mine, and it works fine. The short length of #14 doesn't matter.
Just been recommended as a watch, and have to say the work you've both put in isawesome, not afraid to get your hands dirty, and you're very relaxing to watch
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I own a Vatrer battery, got it for my RV. Works great and has low temp cutoff with a built in heater. Perfect Nor-Cali.
If you want to get above the tree line, use a steel tube CB antenna. They're cheap to build compared to others, and easy to install since they are light enough to assemble on the ground and stand up, and strong enough to handle that little turbine. Plus you could also add a lightning rod, wifi antenna, and tv antenna. Wouldn't hurt to have a cell booster for emergencies also.
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NGL i absolutely love that LIKE MYSELF you not only wear a welding HELMET but also a respirator ! GOOD JOB . all you need now is a NECK BIB and youre set to WELD THE WORLD TOGETHER!
earned a sub
also side note ... youre gonna need at least 4 or 5 of those turbines just to keep a 100watt bulb lit for 24 hrs off that battery. Im very well versed at off-grid setups if you ever need a hand let me know (electrical & structural engineer )
@@davejack8973it doesn't matter how many turbines if they're surrounded by trees 😂
I live on the ocean, so no tree blockage, however I am from Oregon originally, and I’m thinkin you top one of those big trees and cut off some limbs just below, and mount that thing right up there above the canopy. The coastal range is so beautiful, and I love the container home idea too, almost did it myself…. Cheers and safe sailing !!
This is the first wind-turbine installation video for off-grid i watched and i must say, quite interesting. Subbed!
OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS Good content. Hope to learn from your experiences. Quality battery storage is a "no-brainer" because many different forms of energy can be used to supply it. I aim to rely less on the grid and wind and solar are very promising in the Texas Panhandle so that is the route I plan to take. Experience is the best teacher y'all and I hope all works out well for you.
OFF GRID POWER! Oh man, this was exactly the video that I needed to watch! I recently inherited a small cottage/cabin when my father passed and I have been wondering if a wind turbine would be a possible option to provide backup power to some essential items. The house is nestled very deep in the Appalachian of Pennsylvania and the winds are relentless. I can't even have wind chimes, lol. Even though my property is more open, I still think that I would have difficulty generating enough power to run my sump pump, essential lights and to charge tools. I have an array of panels but I still need to mount them (waiting on a new roof). Anyway, your video inspired me and I learned a lot! Happy Holidays everybody! #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
P.S. That shot of the sun rays coming through the pines was absolutely magical!
The wind turbines are the best that I have seen used if there is steady wind.
It is great to see the most beloved "RAD" and "Burning Man" couple that I have viewed and met.
So happy to see your adventures that worked out for the happiest and positive people who know
the law of attraction. I however am going to bounce from one country to another but I have a very
rad place for both of you to stay at in Fountain Hills, Az when you want a place to get away.
Enjoy your "creation".
if you can get an old radio tower for cheap - thos old triangular towers that use some guy wires to support them - 100 feet up there may be better wind result.
great vid, thanks for putting all the work into it and filming - we know this takes a ton of extra effort.
OFF GRID POWER #VATER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS I have been looking at this exact battery for my off grid project. Thank you for showing the wind option. We have been interested in its possibilities on our windy hill.
I just started watching your shows I totally inspire them I've been homeless a couple times this past year due to health issues and my car catching on fire. Maybe this is my luck chance of getting better hope I win lol. Sorry about the spelling any punctuation my phone is cracked also and I can't mash no punctuation buttons hardly
It won't work as you think its going to. All those trees attenuate the wind. You need a tower that rises well above them. Also its just plain windier up there anyway as the ground slows it down.
Also do not mount it on your house. Turbines vibrate and make noise that you don't want conducting into your house.
Get one of the books by Paul Gipe on the subject.
Thank you for sharing your off-grid journey. Your description and videography are excellent! Cheers from NC! 🙂
I’m in the process of building an electric tractor. Thanks for introducing me to the vatrer website.
#Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways I taught myself about LiFpo battery packs and BMS recently, (before seeing this video), while converting an automobile from gasoline to electric. 144 volt system. A farmer I know could use this kind of set up to run his off grid electric fence and water well pump. Good work Pacific Pines!
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First time viewer - Loved the video, well done. I look forward to seeing how well your setup performs.
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OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS, This video was long overdue.....i love the setup and will be going off grid at some point. Keep it up!
Just a thought from a DIYer myself, but you should probably have put a flat plate on the post and welded it on to prevent water from getting in where the holes are around the base of the turbine unit. The post being hollow, I would have ran the power through it and not outside attached with zip tie cords. A removeable access panel that clips in place would be sufficient. Just my 2 cents.
I like LiFePo4 batteries ... got 200Ah 13.2V system with 12V output ( 20A fuse ) for charging cell phones or small car inverters (60W ) and 3000W pure sinewave inverter for anything else . I build it for power outages ( we had 3hrs no power one night , I connected cord to power bar for tv and internet and lights while neighbor hood was all dark ).
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I am looking into installing solar and battery backup for my home and this was good to see someone starting up too. Keep up the good work.
New sub here remote rural off grid Australia solar and wind , am trialling a small wind turbine at the moment have a 24V setup with a separate 12V battery bank for led system for house lighting. So far I have found that the small wind turbine keeps my batteries topped up at night hence supporting battery life , may get a more expensive one but have figured out that wind turbine alone would not provide me with my power requirements, unless I spent an very large pile of money. Great upload will follow your channel with interest.
That's one hell of a beautiful thumbnail. I'm constantly captivated by people that resemble someone else and obsessed until I figure out who it is. You were kind of easy and straightforward. Probably a little before your time but you really remind me of an actress from the 1980s named Sean Young. I just googled her and yes, yes you do. You're welcome. 🤭
You might consider having an expert climb the tallest tree near your home and toping it so your can mount the wind generator up at the tops of trees for better performance,. Even consider topping the closest trees around your wind generator help clear wind access for the wind generator. Nice video.
Good looking battery, it's recommended to setup a 51,2 volt battery to work with a 51,2 volt charge controller and inverter. By using it in a 48 vdc setup will have battery constantly run at low voltage.
Looks like a great system, I am in the process of trying to put together a solar and wind system. Thanks for the video.
Hola, saludos desde Barcelona. Un vídeo muy instructivo 👏👏👏👏
So, get a tree climber like deer hunters use. Climb one of those tall pines, cut off a few limbs to make a good opening, attach a small platform, and mount your wind turbine up there. Or, you might be able to build a get an experienced tree climber to do that for you.
"OFF GRID POWER" AKA Pacific Pines Ranch, it's interesting that you could not get the wind to cooperate with the turbine and the #VATRER battery. The reason I moved inland from the Oregon coast was to get away from the wind! I hope the #VATRERGIVEAWAYS goes well. Thanks for the video.
alot of ppl are new to DC-volt power thanks to alot of factors around the world .. me, i am trying to learn it to run a shade house.
sadly the groups im in over the last few years are giving me the same basic info that i already know as its not rocket science, but honestly teh Voltage and type of wiring used is, for a better and safer use.
i can see the set up you have used, pause the video and draw it down, but not really sure why used a larger classed wire connected from turbine to were ever they go.
a end or mid schematic in vids , i may start asking this on most DC now as it been helpful in some, and why certain grades used are better.. so people dont set fire to their stuff.. which i have personally seen in utilities .. cuase it shorted out or over heated the wrong size connection or bad crimp
vids chill, cozy and clearly keep it up
Great video as always... Something to consider adding is a safety feature for Wind Turbans and that's a Wind Break, Google it. What a wind break is, is a way for the turban to be controlled if it's getting too much wind. It's typically resistors, like a heating element, that the energy is diverted too so it won't overcharge the battery, despite the BMS. Also it's a way to cut power from the Wind Turban too. Seems to me that a bridge rectifier needs to be added as well to control the amount of energy the Turban can produce. And something about Phase seems to ring a few bells that I think the Bridge Rectifier aids with too. Typically I've seen the Bridge Rectifier attached to the 3 leads that leave the turban then a different wire is added after that, but I'm sure you can add one inside near the Battery too. I seem to recall an issue with connecting the Turban directly to the battery. I could be wrong, and things may have changed, it's been a few years since last I researched Wind Turbans so take my comment with a huge grain of Salt... Good luck with your project, I look forward to seeing what you get into next...
Interesting to see this setup. Thanks for all your great videos.
I did wonder why you were fitting a turbine in somewhere sheltered by tree's. Where i live is perfect with no obstacles other than a few trees around the house. 🤔💚💛❤️ You can get more efficient blades. Look at the one that looks like a spiral. It can be used at any angle 💚👍
Good job🎉
I would attach the Windvane to a top of a tree. Saw the top off to get a flat pad.
Create a bucket like metal base to cover the tree top with pre drilled holes.
Our local radio club bought a similar wind turbine to setup and charge the battery bank but as it turned out the turbine itself was totally useless. It was mounted in clear space and needed min of 30 to 40 knot winds just to turn the blades and even then it wasn't turning fast enough to produce a decent charging power. So I personally suggest you go Solar as well. At least that way you will have power just from the daylight and maybe a backup at night with the wind Turbine if the wind is blowing hard enough.
You may want to consider a few new options. Too either try and put your wind generator at the top of a taller tree and run power lines from it to the house or cutting down some of the trees to get more straight line wind generation. If that works then buy more wind generators and set up a field of wind generators in either series or parallel to increase your amperage to charge your batteries and then add solar to the same area to double dip of the gains to use renewable energy to sustain your energy consumption. The trees that you fall can always be used to warm your place or to create wood & lumber material to build with on future projects because a new homestead will always have needs of new storage or build materials. I enjoy your content.
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@Pacific Pines Ranch - First time watching your videos.
I was happy when you two knew to grind off the galvanizing before welding. And I'm glad you guys are wearing respirators.
Not throwing any shade. Safety question. Is the balcony on your house reinforced or does it have a specific engineered weight rating?
I've seen too many wooden balconies safety rated for four people with chairs plus a barbecue grill end up overloaded and suddenly collapse. They end up failing when the parents leave for a weekend and their kids throw a party with 20 kids dancing on the balcony until the balcony and kids go crashing to the ground.
Good experimentation with the wind turbine.
Great video and a way to think outside the box (pun intended) for your off-grid power needs. Having a wind turbine is an excellent opinion #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
I like this idea of solar power. I hope my family and my neighbors can make something similar to do a clean energy environment.
God bless you guys. Keep making the difference on the world 🌎
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I am a new subscriber to your youtube channel, off grid living has been an interest of mine, I enjoyed this episode and look forward to watching more content you provide. You definitely have a great view there at the ranch. I will definitely share your channel with friends of mine that are also interested in off-grid living. #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
☹ You will have to heat and cool the trailer so the battiers don't get to hot in the summer or to cold in the winter. The power out put of one wind generator wont do the job. I did like your install it was a good job.
I love your RUclips channel. And because I am forced into an off grid living situation, I could use the battery so badly.
Fingers crossed.
I think the seasonal winds change direction and for six months out of the year your turbine may be productive. Put some solar panels on top of that shipping container and produce electricity year round. I was delighted to learn that battery can output 100 amps continuous as I wish to power a remote workshop and have the ability to use a welder.
Just an idea, supplement your windmill with a water wheel, fed by your rain run-off from your roof!?!! Great video BTW! 😊
Great videos.
I like your channel.
Very interesting and relaxing.
Great info.
Good luck at all you two do.
I found your site, OFF GRID POWER, fro a RUclips suggestion. I enjoyed the post. I am looking into battery backups and solar power for emergency backup use. I never considered wind and I was not surprised the little turbine did not perform well. They do not seem to have very good reviews online. I also follow Will Prowse and his RUclips Channel and am learning so much. Thank you. #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS
OFF GRID POWER #VATER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS I have been looking at this exact battery for my off grid project. Thank you for showing the wind option
Noise is a big factor. Keeping the generator as far away from the house would be my recommendation.
Chop-off 4 (or more) tree-tops. Build a platform on those tree-tops.
Put a small tower on the platform (or just use the mast you’re using).
For extra security, run some guy-cables to the trees.
It’s a lot of effort (and money), but it will work.
Good luck.
Hope you covered the hole in the windy pole.
I know you did. happy days.
Solar and wind, the way to diversify generation.
Might wanna put a lot more weld on that base mount. Maybe a couple of gussets. The top of the box member is a long way away and the moment arm can generate a lot of force.
I like your job, i have one wind turbine and I am learning how to install, thank you to sheared with us.
Nice job with your project. I am currently awaiting a Fablestoryem 10000 watt wind Turbine, to supplement my 640w solar array. I think your building are with in falling distance of tree's. Pick one to mount on wooden beam, wind speed is higher above 50-100ft of ground level. Additionally a ground should be added to your galvanized pole. Solar would help, some panels charge even with cloudy skies. I use RENOGY
Great video, will be nice to see when the wind shifts if that little turbine produces power. The battery pack looks great for an off grid power solution #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
The thought if this working inside a city would be fantastic. My community has an ordinance against wind turbines!, but with quieter and newer technology…..ordinances can be amended.
OFF GRID POWER #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways, This battery would work great with my system great video, keep up the good work. I have never won anything but first time for everything.
That tiny generator 😊 you should have taller pole for the turbine to catch the wind. Also that container blocks the wind
i have watched 3 videos in the last 3 years of 3 hopeful people putting up wind turbines, and every single one of the videos ended with "huh, I guess I should have just bought solar"
This wind turbine seems like a viable solution to my power needs in California. Thanks for the tutorial. OFF GRID POWER #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways
I would have put some dielectric grease in those crimp connectors so weather doesn’t affect the connection
there are crimp connectors that come with the dielectric grease already in them. I've seen phone installers use them when the landline was truly using "landlines" :-)
If you triangulate supports from the two set points next to each other and the one directly across from them , you would be able to raise the windmill up into the air quite a bit. Using the extra box steel would be perfect! A nice solar array could accompany it as well 😊❤! The combination of that along with a generator and battery 🔋 bank would probably meet your needs. Hopefully lol 😆
The higher you get it, the stronger the wind. 🌬️ 💨
Believe it or not you’ll still get some solar energy during the winter months as well! ☀️ Are you considering a split level heat pump? Just curious 😅 If I haven’t mentioned it before you are a gifted welder and I am totally jealous lol 😂! I have tried and tried. I was in factory maintenance for years and still I don’t have the nice dime rolls you do! It’s refreshing to see a couple determined to make it all work! My parents have a large propane tank that powers their generator as a backup for the grid. Best of luck!
I have nowhere near enough solar to not be grid tie, but having a few rackmount batteries for blackouts to run the critical devices would be awesome.
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Wind generator, an eternal source of energy from nature, exploit and use it. I think it should be hung high to catch the wind better. I see it hanging there, it seems a bit low. Very interesting video. Thank you.
Thank you for your video it has been a thought of mine too if it is going to work. I hope for you that it will workout, i am thinking about installing one around the house on a highrise building where I live. I am excited to see how the follow up video will turn out for you. 🙂
Mines been running constanly for a year so far no problems swing bearing has a little noise will replace that tho not bad for the time in a marine invironment still cranking now
Living on the beach this would definitely help as we always lose power every year. Been following the build for awhile, can't wait to start my container house build. I think I'd personally see about adding another 20-50ft of pole to get to those higher winds that wouldn't be blocked by the thicker tree foliage at the lower height. Off Grid Power would be great especially during the colder months. #VatrerPower
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OFF GRID POWER #VATRER #VATRERGIVEAWAYS Interesting video, it would be nice to see an hybrid system based on solar panels and wind turbine, also upgrading the size of the battery pack.
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Good luck with the windmill, but raising it higher is probably the best option. It doesn’t have to clear the tree lines - you’ll still get significant gains with every bit of height.
To avoid the tree issue you could use a vertical wind turbine instead of a propeller style turbine
I might have missed it but doesn't the wind turbine produce 3 phase AC power? How did you connect that to the DC battery?
There is a 3-phase rectifier just after the first CB, the 3 green wires turn in to 2 wires, red and Black = DC
Yes threes are nice, but you need to cut some for sunlight for the garden, the solar cells and tanning. Vitamine D
Look up "Katabatic winds", that is the source of the Wind Energy you are looking to tap. It is specific to your location, as it is the wind that flows down a mountain. And, yes, it is definitely above the treetops, but not by much. It will spin that little turbine of yours so fast that It melts down in a couple of weeks. Probably easiest to get it up there using an old TV antenna type of set-up, held in place by guy wires. The kind of set-up people used to use when TV was analog, and it was better to catch signals just above the trees where an antenna was mounted with an electrically operated rotating rotor that was adjusted until the best signal was captured. DO NOT FORGET to properly ground everything in case of lightning.
Wonder if a ten foot extension tor the wind generator would help. 🤔
Gonna need another 30ft to get this to produce power. The trees aren't helping
I just purchased the same model wind turbine with the same idea as an experiment to cover power that solar is not getting during the short winter months. I have a 800watt solar powered off-grid barn setup with a 24v/100a battery, did run out of power a couple times during cloudy days that were back to back preventing the charging from completing. I was planning on not using the provided wind charger and their changer does not have a dumpload out which with can harm the wind turbine I am told. #Vatrer #Vatrergiveaways