@@inlonging You would be surprised as how people think that clean a lot is more acceptable than hoard, unless you spend a day with her, people will praise her for having a pristine home, the hoarder is spotted a mile away a people immediately think there's something wrong.
@@samanthaabreu782 clean is still better than being a hoarder.You would rather have too much of something good than too little.Do you want to stink and not shower daily for example.
She cleans the surfaces 10 - 15 times a day? Oh my, dear, you could use all that time to cuddle your family, roll in the grass, run after the dog, climb in the trees, let yourself fall into the pond. So much fun things you could do! I mean I don’t like hoarding either. But there is a middle way, woman! 😂❤️
In one of these shows, one of the OCDs said that she doesn't like to clean, it doesn't bring her joy, it's just something she has to do, that's why is a pathology and not a hobby. It's not a matter of what she could be doing with the time she spends cleaning, it's the fact that she can't help herself but cleaning.
@@samanthaabreu782 not true.Most really clean people just love to clean and they feel comfort and mental satisphication when they do it.We also need an objective defintion of what is ocd.I think cleaning or wiping surfaces twice a day is totally fine even if most people are lazy and dirty pigs which is obviously worst as a society.
Helen and Janet are both genuinely lovely ladies. Helen did fantastic work on Janet's house - the craft room in particular looked absolutely beautiful after Helen had organised it. Helen has a lovely character, I think she would be perfect as a home help for women with post-partum depression, disabled people and elderly people. On the other end of the scale, she might enjoy being a party or events organiser. I thought both Helen and Janet were lovely people, wouldn't it be nice if they became friends?
My sister had the mindset of ‘keeping a clean home means you have no life’ She got a letter from the council telling her to clean it up or get evicted So…..
@@Rat_Queen86 yeah well it would just be an excuse from your sister in that case as she could not face the hoard. It would have to be bad for a council to get tough I guess. @Rat_Queen86. Councils should have a team to help as some people couldn't afford cleaners.
I dont think anyone should tell you what to do. That being said there is limit when it comes dangerous then it's mental illness & someone needs to step in..
The clean lady has a huge house and a family with a husband, 2 kids, and a dog. It does take time to keep everything nice and clean and organized, and she is a work from home mom. Maybe she could only clean 3 hours a day but assign each of her children 30 minutes a day of chores to do to. It could help them learn more responsibility and cleaning skills that will help them in their adulthood.
You are right, However, I think she needs to do most of the chores herself, so she knows it's perfect. For example, kids won't do the beds as good as she. It takes serious dedication to change this mindset.
@@xannay Good point, I think there are life lessons in that. Personally, I used to have this fear of doing something and it not being perfect. Sometimes it would even prevent me from trying new things. Over time, I started realizing that when you do something new, you will likely be bad at it, even if you tried your best. But the key is to just keep trying and getting better with each attempt. So yeah, if she doesn't allow the kids to clean as they won't get it right, she'd be teaching them they are bad at cleaning and they shouldn't even try b/c they won't get it right. Not a good thing to take into adulthood. Being good at cleaning is def a skill...
I was asked to ONLY dry the dishes growing up as my auntie was the only one who could get the dishes clean enough, bounce a quarter off the newly made bed, etc. like the lovely lady in the video it was her purpose to offer an immaculate home. I’m not like that 😂
@@KasieMusic What? 30 minutes a day is nothing. Take the dog out, unload a dishwasher, clean a table after dinner, take the laundry out of a dryer and sort out yours, put clean socks together, bake a cake with mum... 30 minutes of reasonable help a day is fine, maybe even not enough, kids should be included all off in those. Well, at least I think so.
Her husband Nick is clearly saying that he is unhappy with the way she chooses to clean - meaning clean up his plate and break up dinner before he has even finished. This is a problem, not a good thing.
I do the same thing and my house is ungortunately messy - thats how you live when u a mom. He is judgmental and does not show any gratefulness toward his wife that stayed at home all alone and takes care of everything
@@dnr2089 Are you a mom of more than one child? You just gave me advice to be more organised and have more pride. Sweetheart, I had ambulance here twice those past months because I was passing out due to overtiredness. It's easy to tell people how they "need" to be - unless you are in their shoes.
@@Jamerican-JourneyGirlwhat is the app?? I downloaded one a while ago but it would shut down when I’d try to save something. I went so far as to take photos of all of my tops but gave me at that point, and totally forgot until now
The irony of this is that the wealthy woman has heaps of things too,yet doesn't see that the only difference between the two is organising skills and space When the tidy woman says i don't know how anyone can have so many dresses?? She does,but in different rooms in multiple wardrobes
And therein lies the difference; OCC woman has the space, so can have as many clothing items as she wishes. The other woman lives in a house that's less than 1,000 s.f., so she can't cram it full of unnecessary items.
@@jb6712 yes! And so people who have less space can not have so many stuff as people with a lot of space... i think it is not fair to say that the one in a small house has to many stuff. And has to get rid of a lot.. and the other one can have far to much
I am 50 and would definitely wear a fairy cardigan. Little advice on the final cleanup...the lids on the containers need to be removed. She would more readily toss her supplies in them. I did this with my hubby and his craft supplies. It worked like a charm.
@@catiabotelho5845I was wondering the same thing. I did an Internet search and am no wiser, other than learning that a lot of people are selling, making or blogging about them, whatever the heck they are.
Because why would you willingly go clean someone else's lazy mess than be available all the time when you have enough money coming in lol why can't people clean their own mess and Helen get a hobby for herself such as maybe going to the gym or choose a dance to learn or something
I liked both of them. Knitting ladys home wasnt terrible but it did deserve a clean and tidy. Plus decluttering reduces anxiety, so its great for peace of mind. The woman who was doing all the cleaning is motivated and lovely, she could definately use those skills out in the workforce to bring more pleasure into her day other than a monotonous cleaning regime. She deserves that ❤
@janedough6575 I agree. But, for this video, cleaning and organising is her pleasure. She doesn't have to work for anyone, if she loves to organise and clean, she would be smart enough to create her own buisness. Which in the end, it said she did start doing odd jobs for friends. Some people are content. Others need that stimulation 🐝
I can be around clutter but not dirt. I like a clean house. My husband can't stand clutter but doesn't see the dirt. He helps me inside the house and I help him in the yard. That's how we have been married for 50 years.
It seems that the messy lady is also has same void in her life that she tries to fill with stuff. And she has way too many "inspirational quotes" that she uses to justify the mess and dirt in her home.
If the woman with the huge home hired someone to take care of her grass, she would have more time to actually make money to pay them. The hoarder probably doesn't wear 90% of those clothes. She can donate them and help others. My mother in law was a hoarder. She had more crafts than she could possibly do. Thank you for helping Janet.
What a great show for a change. One that seemed to really help people. I hope the mom learns to enjoy meals with her family. Koodos to the other keeping it up. Upkeep is sooooo hard.
The first lady is insane, cutting grass with scissors and wiping things down 10x a day. This is OCD to the extreme. I'd rather live with a slightly messy person than her any day of the year. I feel sorry for her kids living under this regime.
One fills the empty void inside with excessive cleaning and the other with too much 'stuff'. Two sides of the same coin here, just different ways of coping with the inner pain and emptiness.
I’ve seen a woman online that cleans homes for people who suffer from depression or other illnesses, free of charge. I think it’s a beautiful thing, and her non-judgemental approach is perfect for those in need
At the very end of the video, it said that she wanted to be a volunteer cleaner for those who could use the help. That's far better than running a business she neither needs nor wants.
"I very often start a project and not finish them because i lose interest" as someone with BPD who has a boyfriend with ADHD i feel this in my soul lmao trying to keep hobbies or goals is near on impossible 😕
Janet's house is seriously not that bad! We would lose shoes and fall into piles of material in my Nan's sewing room! She passed aged 96 last October and I am still sorting her haberdashery! This just needs a good sort - not like us with 30 trips to the tip, 7 car loads for the charity shop and still tons to go!
I recommend selling some of it on vinted if it’s still good enough to! My mom does huge clear outs often and has sent tons to the charity shop every year but since we got into vinted we regret giving so much to the charity shop! We’ve made a few hundred just from left over items ❤
@tocacinema, it's wonderful that you're helping your mom. I wonder if she could do it without you. I have closets full of vintage clothing & accessories. I want to sell them before my granddaughters destroy them, but don't seem motivated to learn how to list online.
I know someone ( Male) who insists he is not "Domesticated " insists on hiring a cleaner every week, who can't Iron a shirt or put a washing machine on. His wife totally spoilt him, ( now separated ) he has no idea how to efficiently sweep the steps on the terrace, hence ignores it. Incompetence or Ignorance that is not the Man's role? I was taught from an early age to - Cook, launder, basic sowing, buttons etc, Iron. My father was ex forces & has stood us in good stead as adults. Last time I was in his house, he still had his Xmas cards displayed in August! It must be a form of Mental health problem?
Honestly there's absolutely nothing wrong with hiring a cleaner if you can afford it! Yeah, ideally he'd learn to do it himself but at least he recognizes it needs to be done. And his ex-wife isn't stuck cleaning up after him anymore!
She wasn't the least bit hypocritical---she lives in a 4,000 s.f. house and has the requisite space to house her entire wardrobe neatly. The other woman's house is less than 1,000 s.f., and there are no closets, only wardrobes, so she can't have as many clothes because she doesn't have as much space.
@@jb6712 by your logic, if the other persons house is 4000 sqft and she can have 600, then this woman is allowed to have 100. I didn't see that many, she just needs to get them up off the floor.
@@noth9617she definitely had over 100 items. Well over. They only showed a few individual items but if you pay attention to the floor and even the finished clean closers, she had a ton of clothes even after the clean up. It’s also a lot less about the number of clothes and more about that she clearly had a habit of hoarding things she doesn’t need and it’s bad for health and home.
This was such a good one. And that is interesting what Janet said. A void. She’s right. There is something missing and I’m thinking maybe it’s self fulfillment. That may actually be true for hoarders and what about 600 pound people. I don’t know if it’s always about the pain in their lives because everybody goes through this stuff. Janet is good. I love Helen’s catalog in her clothing. When you have 600 pieces, you need to know what you have.. I thought she might catalog her arts and crafts. And that’s a good idea. Anyway, I love the show and these two women and I love them together. Helen is so funny when she was behind the couch.
Janet has ADHD. She is going to struggle to finish her projects because she runs out of the dopamines. That’s why she struggle to keep things in order to begin and can’t finish. Helen has OCD. But there is something deeper going on for her at the core
That must have been pretty darn hard on Janet, but Helen pushed through and somehow, that was exactly what she needed. She's got a lovely home she can enjoy now. And I truly appreciate, that she helped Helen see, that her skills could be of greater benefit, when shared with the world. Both are lovely ladies, each somewhat overwhelmed by their own issues and now on steam for an even better future.
They were so sweet to one another! Im so glad they seem to be caring women!❤️i expected it to be worse lol they helped one another they both needed a good friend:)
The hoarder is 'neurodivergent.' This is a word that keeps cropping up more and more often. Her brain pathways work for her - but not for people who are not neurodivergent. Hoarding also has to do with safety and comfort. The hoarder needs to be surrounded by stuff (walled) to feel safe. Lots of psychological trauma here - but they never adress this. Neurodivergents need to be taught different pathways in their brains, and this is a very long process.
@@elisekuby2009I do agree that this lady is clearly neurodivergent. However we don’t need to be “taught different pathways in our brains”- that sounds condescending and a lot like ABA therapy which often traumatises neurodivergent children. We just need acceptance. We’re simply a different neuro type. Also, just to clarify for anyone reading, not everyone who is neurodivergent has a messy home - my home is clean and tidy and I have autism, adhd and c-ptsd. Admittedly I have to live with a lot less stuff than most people because I can’t deal with a large inventory of things.
It's probably from oils in the air. They build up especially around cooking spaces. You can use a damp cloth with a little bit of dish soap to clean it.
I noticed that people with obsessive cleaning have a capacity to reflect about their thoughts and they speak in a very logical and intelligent way. Hoarders speak in a more simple and pratical way.
Oh my goodness, I would LOVE to be paired with someone to help them organize!!! It’s one thing I am extremely good at, and have considered creating a business out of. How did you connect the two? Is this only in the Uk?
Have you got a local Website? Many people would pay decent money for your skills. Price in the need for a skip, or the cost of petrol for going to the dump/dropping boxes for good will/Charity shops. Please wear a decent mask. Best wishes ❤
Look how quickly she went out with her dog 🐕 it had to pee with in 63 seconds as she has a time schedule to polish her walnut dining table for the 8th time today. This person needs something!
Awwww! I love this episode! I'm definitely more like Janet, but I do (eventually) finish my projects and my works in progress are in tote bags (on the floor) so they don't unravel or trip anyone. 🤭😅
Substitute drug addiction for hoarding. Same principle. Hoards should cleaned up, period. Then the hoarder should. Be monitored . Hoarding affects others and should be treaded as a whole family is affected. The needs of the many outweigh the selfish needs of one oblivious, spoiled, egotistic, unloving family member. In the long run you really are not doing them any favors by mollycoddling them. You know these people a enablers, especially the psychiatrist.
I know people think the compulsive cleaners are bad but I kinda admired them and wish I was like them because I'm like these hoarder people. I love buying new things and I've also got lots of presents for birthdays and Christmases that I love, so I have accumulated a lot of stuff including crap over the years. I have a phobia of cleaning and tidying for some reason yet I feel bad that I don't. I have started getting rid of stuff. So far I've gotten rid of lots of stuff in the last 2 years and even over the years and I've started selling my stuff as well. It seems no matter how much stuff I get rid of there's still a lot of stuff. I wish I was a little bit more like Helen. Not as extreme but alot more like her
My stepkids' mom used to tell the kids I was just fussy/ dull/ stuck-up for wanting a clean house, and a meany for making the kids participate in cleaning. They were used to rabbit trails thru filth. Then the kids started to realize that we didn't have clouds of fruit flies, no cupboard moths, no ants, no moldy patches of carpet. They started to realize that their constant nasal congestion and coughs eased when they were at my house. They noticed that it was easy to find things when they wanted them, and that they felt good about having friends inside the house...
They are lovely! The very clean lady needs an outlet for her amazing organisational abilities. She would feel very happy and fulfilled! She can start with my place 😅 ❤
Filth, WHAT!!! happened to the Sound in the Scenes from 8 Minutes and 43 Seconds to 9 Minutes and 1 Second? Please May You Fix This? From James Duggins
I think this lady skills are wasted on cleaning for friends. She should start a business to help disabled/elderly, mentally.challenged/overwhelmed clients. She is so skilled at what she does. If she reads this, please sit down with your family at dinner, it's a bonding time. Your marriage and children will benefit from you being emotionally.present. The children quickly grow up, treasure the time you have with them. Schedule yiour life so that when they are at home, the cleaning is already done. ❤
My mom told me that when she was younger, her mom would deep clean the house every single day. Vacuuming, mopping, scrubbing toilets and showers, dusting, etc
I just did my brothers house.. I had compacted mouse mess, and the hoarders cluster and 'stuff ' ....I got a,two man can in and filled it . We are two thirds through . It's very tough.
The two ladies are so pleasant and non-judgey of each other, love their dynamic, they should have their own show.
the odd couple type of show - im interested!
@@storyinternships9636... I sense aggression in the hoarder woman.
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@@earnold1896totally. She’s so judgemental and she lives in squalor. She must smell terrible
@@kirstyjackson3195... she would be that way (aggressive) trying to take the focus off her I'm sure.
This video was a pleasant friendly uplifting bubbly look at two ladies working together without frustration or any upset . wonderful.
Quite a break from the usual battles.
It wasn’t free from frustration.
That little gesture and a smile 4:44 ...soothing actually
😊❤yea agreed 👍
NICE TO SEE NO ATTACKING EACH OTHER ❤❤❤
The lady with the cluttered home has the sweetest voice ever. I could listen to her for days!
Me, too! Very soothing.
😊❤yes true 👍 like an accent
It is interesting that we recognize pathology when someone hoards, but don't necessarily when someone compulsively cleans.
OCD -obsessive compulsive disorder.
Who doesn’t recognize it though? Spend a day with that woman and watch her obsessively wipe the same counter ten times and it’s very obvious
@@inlonging You would be surprised as how people think that clean a lot is more acceptable than hoard, unless you spend a day with her, people will praise her for having a pristine home, the hoarder is spotted a mile away a people immediately think there's something wrong.
@@samanthaabreu782 sure same as disordered eating is easier to spot in the obese than the underweight. Anyone with perception catches both
@@samanthaabreu782 clean is still better than being a hoarder.You would rather have too much of something good than too little.Do you want to stink and not shower daily for example.
She cleans the surfaces 10 - 15 times a day? Oh my, dear, you could use all that time to cuddle your family, roll in the grass, run after the dog, climb in the trees, let yourself fall into the pond. So much fun things you could do! I mean I don’t like hoarding either. But there is a middle way, woman! 😂❤️
In one of these shows, one of the OCDs said that she doesn't like to clean, it doesn't bring her joy, it's just something she has to do, that's why is a pathology and not a hobby. It's not a matter of what she could be doing with the time she spends cleaning, it's the fact that she can't help herself but cleaning.
@@samanthaabreu782EXACTLY
@@samanthaabreu782 not true.Most really clean people just love to clean and they feel comfort and mental satisphication when they do it.We also need an objective defintion of what is ocd.I think cleaning or wiping surfaces twice a day is totally fine even if most people are lazy and dirty pigs which is obviously worst as a society.
@@taiemgamerxrbg2080truth. People are incredibly lazy and have terrible hygiene.
Unfortunately, they both have mental disorders.
I love how well they worked together even though they are polar opposites. ❤
Helen and Janet are both genuinely lovely ladies. Helen did fantastic work on Janet's house - the craft room in particular looked absolutely beautiful after Helen had organised it. Helen has a lovely character, I think she would be perfect as a home help for women with post-partum depression, disabled people and elderly people. On the other end of the scale, she might enjoy being a party or events organiser. I thought both Helen and Janet were lovely people, wouldn't it be nice if they became friends?
Two very lovely yet completely different ladies. Really enjoyed watching this. They honestly could learn from each other.
My sister had the mindset of ‘keeping a clean home means you have no life’
She got a letter from the council telling her to clean it up or get evicted
So…..
we need those councils in America
@@Elektra2070when it gets to the point that the house is falling down, yeah, someone should be intervening
@@Rat_Queen86our house is falling apart
@@Rat_Queen86 yeah well it would just be an excuse from your sister in that case as she could not face the hoard. It would have to be bad for a council to get tough I guess.
@Rat_Queen86. Councils should have a team to help as some people couldn't afford cleaners.
I dont think anyone should tell you what to do. That being said there is limit when it comes dangerous then it's mental illness & someone needs to step in..
The clean lady has a huge house and a family with a husband, 2 kids, and a dog. It does take time to keep everything nice and clean and organized, and she is a work from home mom. Maybe she could only clean 3 hours a day but assign each of her children 30 minutes a day of chores to do to. It could help them learn more responsibility and cleaning skills that will help them in their adulthood.
You are right, However, I think she needs to do most of the chores herself, so she knows it's perfect. For example, kids won't do the beds as good as she. It takes serious dedication to change this mindset.
@@xannay Good point, I think there are life lessons in that. Personally, I used to have this fear of doing something and it not being perfect. Sometimes it would even prevent me from trying new things. Over time, I started realizing that when you do something new, you will likely be bad at it, even if you tried your best. But the key is to just keep trying and getting better with each attempt. So yeah, if she doesn't allow the kids to clean as they won't get it right, she'd be teaching them they are bad at cleaning and they shouldn't even try b/c they won't get it right. Not a good thing to take into adulthood. Being good at cleaning is def a skill...
I was asked to ONLY dry the dishes growing up as my auntie was the only one who could get the dishes clean enough, bounce a quarter off the newly made bed, etc. like the lovely lady in the video it was her purpose to offer an immaculate home. I’m not like that 😂
30 minutes a day?! How is it the childrens fault that they are born into a life in a big mansion?
@@KasieMusic What? 30 minutes a day is nothing. Take the dog out, unload a dishwasher, clean a table after dinner, take the laundry out of a dryer and sort out yours, put clean socks together, bake a cake with mum... 30 minutes of reasonable help a day is fine, maybe even not enough, kids should be included all off in those. Well, at least I think so.
Her husband Nick is clearly saying that he is unhappy with the way she chooses to clean - meaning clean up his plate and break up dinner before he has even finished. This is a problem, not a good thing.
I do the same thing and my house is ungortunately messy - thats how you live when u a mom. He is judgmental and does not show any gratefulness toward his wife that stayed at home all alone and takes care of everything
@@KasieMusicBeing a “mom” does not automatically mean you have to be messy! You need to be more organised and have more pride!
@@KasieMusicWhy do you take plates while ppl are still eating?? If you don’t want to make the food just tell him you done don’t be rude
@@dnr2089 Are you a mom of more than one child? You just gave me advice to be more organised and have more pride. Sweetheart, I had ambulance here twice those past months because I was passing out due to overtiredness. It's easy to tell people how they "need" to be - unless you are in their shoes.
@@takeanotherlook2065 Are you a mom of more than one child?
Using your phone to plan outfits is very Cher from Clueless i kinda love it
Exactly my thought! 😂
I was thinking that too!
I do this. I have an app.
@@Jamerican-JourneyGirlwhat is the app?? I downloaded one a while ago but it would shut down when I’d try to save something. I went so far as to take photos of all of my tops but gave me at that point, and totally forgot until now
The irony of this is that the wealthy woman has heaps of things too,yet doesn't see that the only difference between the two is organising skills and space
When the tidy woman says i don't know how anyone can have so many dresses??
She does,but in different rooms in multiple wardrobes
And therein lies the difference; OCC woman has the space, so can have as many clothing items as she wishes. The other woman lives in a house that's less than 1,000 s.f., so she can't cram it full of unnecessary items.
@@jb6712 yes! And so people who have less space can not have so many stuff as people with a lot of space... i think it is not fair to say that the one in a small house has to many stuff. And has to get rid of a lot.. and the other one can have far to much
I am 50 and would definitely wear a fairy cardigan.
Little advice on the final cleanup...the lids on the containers need to be removed. She would more readily toss her supplies in them. I did this with my hubby and his craft supplies. It worked like a charm.
I am 67 & would wear a fairy cardigan lol
Is a fairy cardigan kind of a tunic made for cleaning? This name is so cute.
@@catiabotelho5845I was wondering the same thing. I did an Internet search and am no wiser, other than learning that a lot of people are selling, making or blogging about them, whatever the heck they are.
I kept thinking..”you need a job doing this for others!!” She’s got a gift for organizing so why not do it even part-time!?
That’s a very good point ❤
Because why would you willingly go clean someone else's lazy mess than be available all the time when you have enough money coming in lol why can't people clean their own mess and Helen get a hobby for herself such as maybe going to the gym or choose a dance to learn or something
This friendship is absolutely adorable😊
Both of these women have such funny personalities! They worked so well together!
This is the sweetest hoarding video I've ever seen. Both ladies are lovely people.
I liked both of them.
Knitting ladys home wasnt terrible but it did deserve a clean and tidy. Plus decluttering reduces anxiety, so its great for peace of mind.
The woman who was doing all the cleaning is motivated and lovely, she could definately use those skills out in the workforce to bring more pleasure into her day other than a monotonous cleaning regime. She deserves that ❤
How can being “out in the workforce “, being on someone else’s time clock, bring more pleasure to anyone’s life?
She could take up the harp or piano or cello or French horn for that matter, too. Painting or photography or pottery...
@janedough6575 I agree. But, for this video, cleaning and organising is her pleasure. She doesn't have to work for anyone, if she loves to organise and clean, she would be smart enough to create her own buisness. Which in the end, it said she did start doing odd jobs for friends.
Some people are content. Others need that stimulation 🐝
@@msnightlight Exactly, not everyone wants the headaches and complications of running a business. Some prefer a more simple lifestyle.
What have to agree with is....if you "love it" then she's correct; take care of if. It shouldn't be in a heap on the floor. 🤔
These ladies had such kind concern for one another. I love that they both came away having become better and wanted to continue to grow. ❤
For a job, she should just do the same thing as here. She can be a personal organizer and help other hoarders.
I can be around clutter but not dirt. I like a clean house. My husband can't stand clutter but doesn't see the dirt. He helps me inside the house and I help him in the yard. That's how we have been married for 50 years.
She does need to sit down and have meals with her children. That’s very important she can clean later
It seems that the messy lady is also has same void in her life that she tries to fill with stuff. And she has way too many "inspirational quotes" that she uses to justify the mess and dirt in her home.
Love the dynamic. Nice to see respect and open discussion
So glad that I am a dull woman 😂 Love these two women, think they are both very friendly and loving ❤
They both seemed so lovely
If the woman with the huge home hired someone to take care of her grass, she would have more time to actually make money to pay them. The hoarder probably doesn't wear 90% of those clothes. She can donate them and help others. My mother in law was a hoarder. She had more crafts than she could possibly do. Thank you for helping Janet.
That made made me laugh when she said her friend thought she was ill bc she wore a tracksuit 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Helen is blessed with tons of room. Makes life way easier. She seems very nice.
i love their instant chemistry! like theyve known (and been good friends) for ages!
This was a sweet video. Both ladies were respectful and I think they both learned from each other and made a new friend.
What a great show for a change. One that seemed to really help people. I hope the mom learns to enjoy meals with her family. Koodos to the other keeping it up. Upkeep is sooooo hard.
The first lady is insane, cutting grass with scissors and wiping things down 10x a day. This is OCD to the extreme. I'd rather live with a slightly messy person than her any day of the year. I feel sorry for her kids living under this regime.
You've never lived with a hoarder. I'd rather live somewhere clean than not.
@@mingmingyip19 I didn't say hoarder, I said slightly messy person.
Yeah, the knitter is not really a hoarder.. yet.
@@mingmingyip19they said, “slightly messy.”
Big difference than a hoarder. Just saying anally retentive and OCD is uncomfortable.
I’m surprised she doesn’t store the luxury brand handbags in their dust covers.
Only people who can’t actually afford them keep them bagged.
One fills the empty void inside with excessive cleaning and the other with too much 'stuff'. Two sides of the same coin here, just different ways of coping with the inner pain and emptiness.
I’ve seen a woman online that cleans homes for people who suffer from depression or other illnesses, free of charge. I think it’s a beautiful thing, and her non-judgemental approach is perfect for those in need
These 2 should genuinely be friends. They have really similar personalities and traits, and both with different manifestations of OCD.
Why does the mum set up a cleaning business & or an organising business. She has the skills & energy plus the time for it.
At the very end of the video, it said that she wanted to be a volunteer cleaner for those who could use the help. That's far better than running a business she neither needs nor wants.
Nicely done, both ladies were so sweet.
😊❤❤yes agreed 👍 shariwitt.1977.2
😊❤Janet voce sounds grate
I have been craving a show like How Clean is Your House since they stopped making it. I think this one fills that void very nicely!
"I very often start a project and not finish them because i lose interest" as someone with BPD who has a boyfriend with ADHD i feel this in my soul lmao trying to keep hobbies or goals is near on impossible 😕
I'm not dull and I like clean!
Janet's house is seriously not that bad! We would lose shoes and fall into piles of material in my Nan's sewing room! She passed aged 96 last October and I am still sorting her haberdashery! This just needs a good sort - not like us with 30 trips to the tip, 7 car loads for the charity shop and still tons to go!
Definitely not as bad as some/most on these programs. At least she can sleep in her bed.
I recommend selling some of it on vinted if it’s still good enough to! My mom does huge clear outs often and has sent tons to the charity shop every year but since we got into vinted we regret giving so much to the charity shop! We’ve made a few hundred just from left over items ❤
@@tocacinema I've been thinking about that - can't hurt to have a go! Thanks x
@@tocacinemajust think of the good you’ve done by donating your items.
@tocacinema, it's wonderful that you're helping your mom. I wonder if she could do it without you.
I have closets full of vintage clothing & accessories. I want to sell them before my granddaughters destroy them, but don't seem motivated to learn how to list online.
Aww i hope they stay in touch thatd be nice
The hoarder lady probably has less stuff than the organised lady, she just has less space.
Bien pensé 👍🤔😉
Yup
No, Helen has 600 pieces of clothing while Janet had 800
The organization wardrobe app she created is very cool. I would definitely try that. My closet doesn't look like hers but neat.
I know someone ( Male) who insists he is not "Domesticated " insists on hiring a cleaner every week, who can't Iron a shirt or put a washing machine on. His wife totally spoilt him, ( now separated ) he has no idea how to efficiently sweep the steps on the terrace, hence ignores it. Incompetence or Ignorance that is not the Man's role? I was taught from an early age to - Cook, launder, basic sowing, buttons etc, Iron. My father was ex forces & has stood us in good stead as adults. Last time I was in his house, he still had his Xmas cards displayed in August! It must be a form of Mental health problem?
Honestly there's absolutely nothing wrong with hiring a cleaner if you can afford it! Yeah, ideally he'd learn to do it himself but at least he recognizes it needs to be done. And his ex-wife isn't stuck cleaning up after him anymore!
Wonderful women. They both had me smiling and giggling.
She's kinda hypocritical when she says she has too many clothes and she herself has 600 items...
She wasn't the least bit hypocritical---she lives in a 4,000 s.f. house and has the requisite space to house her entire wardrobe neatly.
The other woman's house is less than 1,000 s.f., and there are no closets, only wardrobes, so she can't have as many clothes because she doesn't have as much space.
@@jb6712 by your logic, if the other persons house is 4000 sqft and she can have 600, then this woman is allowed to have 100. I didn't see that many, she just needs to get them up off the floor.
@@noth9617she definitely had over 100 items. Well over. They only showed a few individual items but if you pay attention to the floor and even the finished clean closers, she had a ton of clothes even after the clean up. It’s also a lot less about the number of clothes and more about that she clearly had a habit of hoarding things she doesn’t need and it’s bad for health and home.
This was such a good one. And that is interesting what Janet said. A void. She’s right. There is something missing and I’m thinking maybe it’s self fulfillment. That may actually be true for hoarders and what about 600 pound people. I don’t know if it’s always about the pain in their lives because everybody goes through this stuff. Janet is good. I love Helen’s catalog in her clothing. When you have 600 pieces, you need to know what you have.. I thought she might catalog her arts and crafts. And that’s a good idea. Anyway, I love the show and these two women and I love them together. Helen is so funny when she was behind the couch.
Her house is actually a very nice house. I’m happy for her!
Janet has ADHD. She is going to struggle to finish her projects because she runs out of the dopamines. That’s why she struggle to keep things in order to begin and can’t finish. Helen has OCD. But there is something deeper going on for her at the core
To me, both houses are not comfortable to be in.
I think it's brave to open your life like that to help others with their own issues
That must have been pretty darn hard on Janet, but Helen pushed through and somehow, that was exactly what she needed. She's got a lovely home she can enjoy now. And I truly appreciate, that she helped Helen see, that her skills could be of greater benefit, when shared with the world.
Both are lovely ladies, each somewhat overwhelmed by their own issues and now on steam for an even better future.
The organizing lady should do this for a living. She’s great at it!
They were so sweet to one another! Im so glad they seem to be caring women!❤️i expected it to be worse lol they helped one another they both needed a good friend:)
Those poor kids….
All the quotes in her house motivated her to be a hoarder
I really can't comprehend this chaos......how can anyone exist in this?
The hoarder is 'neurodivergent.' This is a word that keeps cropping up more and more often. Her brain pathways work for her - but not for people who are not neurodivergent.
Hoarding also has to do with safety and comfort. The hoarder needs to be surrounded by stuff (walled) to feel safe.
Lots of psychological trauma here - but they never adress this.
Neurodivergents need to be taught different pathways in their brains, and this is a very long process.
🤷 Don't know
@user-oi6in4eq7b poor mental health
I’d honestly rather live in the messy house than the over-clean soulless one.
@@elisekuby2009I do agree that this lady is clearly neurodivergent. However we don’t need to be “taught different pathways in our brains”- that sounds condescending and a lot like ABA therapy which often traumatises neurodivergent children. We just need acceptance. We’re simply a different neuro type.
Also, just to clarify for anyone reading, not everyone who is neurodivergent has a messy home - my home is clean and tidy and I have autism, adhd and c-ptsd. Admittedly I have to live with a lot less stuff than most people because I can’t deal with a large inventory of things.
The dirt on the glass light fitting !!! Where has that come from? I get the dust but the muck is a bit much.
Looked like fly 💩
It's probably from oils in the air. They build up especially around cooking spaces. You can use a damp cloth with a little bit of dish soap to clean it.
One needs a find a job and one needs to learn how to finish a job she’s started😂😂
I noticed that people with obsessive cleaning have a capacity to reflect about their thoughts and they speak in a very logical and intelligent way. Hoarders speak in a more simple and pratical way.
Two absolutely fantastic Ladies.
It's important to clean and tidy up the house. it's just common practice where I'm from.
So true. 😊
The messy woman reminds me of the Simpsons cat lady. 😂
The hoarder has talent with creativity
Small places CAN be tidy!
Oh my goodness, I would LOVE to be paired with someone to help them organize!!! It’s one thing I am extremely good at, and have considered creating a business out of. How did you connect the two? Is this only in the Uk?
Have you got a local Website? Many people would pay decent money for your skills. Price in the need for a skip, or the cost of petrol for going to the dump/dropping boxes for good will/Charity shops. Please wear a decent mask. Best wishes ❤
I love cleanliness!
Both lovely ladies!
"I talk to the dog but he doesn't respond" 🤣
Look how quickly she went out with her dog 🐕 it had to pee with in 63 seconds as she has a time schedule to polish her walnut dining table for the 8th time today. This person needs something!
Awwww! I love this episode! I'm definitely more like Janet, but I do (eventually) finish my projects and my works in progress are in tote bags (on the floor) so they don't unravel or trip anyone. 🤭😅
this kind of tidy peoples deserve to get paid ! she helped others and thats things she like to do ❤
btw both awsome friendshil energy 💕✨
Substitute drug addiction for hoarding. Same principle. Hoards should cleaned up, period. Then the hoarder should. Be monitored . Hoarding affects others and should be treaded as a whole family is affected. The needs of the many outweigh the selfish needs of one oblivious, spoiled, egotistic, unloving family member. In the long run you really are not doing them any favors by mollycoddling them. You know these people a enablers, especially the psychiatrist.
What a beautifull episode
I know people think the compulsive cleaners are bad but I kinda admired them and wish I was like them because I'm like these hoarder people. I love buying new things and I've also got lots of presents for birthdays and Christmases that I love, so I have accumulated a lot of stuff including crap over the years.
I have a phobia of cleaning and tidying for some reason yet I feel bad that I don't.
I have started getting rid of stuff. So far I've gotten rid of lots of stuff in the last 2 years and even over the years and I've started selling my stuff as well. It seems no matter how much stuff I get rid of there's still a lot of stuff.
I wish I was a little bit more like Helen. Not as extreme but alot more like her
My stepkids' mom used to tell the kids I was just fussy/ dull/ stuck-up for wanting a clean house, and a meany for making the kids participate in cleaning. They were used to rabbit trails thru filth.
Then the kids started to realize that we didn't have clouds of fruit flies, no cupboard moths, no ants, no moldy patches of carpet. They started to realize that their constant nasal congestion and coughs eased when they were at my house. They noticed that it was easy to find things when they wanted them, and that they felt good about having friends inside the house...
They are lovely! The very clean lady needs an outlet for her amazing organisational abilities. She would feel very happy and fulfilled! She can start with my place 😅 ❤
So the grass growing over the edge bothers her more than the unevenly hung pictures in the living room. All right. 😵💫
O c d is crazy
theyre gentle in different ways - how intriguing
All this is a symptom of trauma!!!!!
They're both trying to fill an inside void, in completely opposite ways.
No one said a word about Helen's neatly trimmed hole 🫢 🕳️⛳
Live is short...enjoy your family
Does audio cut out halfway for anyone else?
Filth, WHAT!!! happened to the Sound in the Scenes from 8 Minutes and 43 Seconds to 9 Minutes and 1 Second? Please May You Fix This? From James Duggins
Dont worry cousin, im not judging you. Your house is incredible! you keep enjoying making it look beautiful. i know i would.
So they’re BOTH nuts…
36!!!!!!?
I was shocked too...
I thought she was around 48
I think this lady skills are wasted on cleaning for friends. She should start a business to help disabled/elderly, mentally.challenged/overwhelmed clients. She is so skilled at what she does. If she reads this, please sit down with your family at dinner, it's a bonding time. Your marriage and children will benefit from you being emotionally.present. The children quickly grow up, treasure the time you have with them. Schedule yiour life so that when they are at home, the cleaning is already done. ❤
These ladies are wonderful ❤️
My mom told me that when she was younger, her mom would deep clean the house every single day. Vacuuming, mopping, scrubbing toilets and showers, dusting, etc
I love this show!
I just did my brothers house.. I had compacted mouse mess, and the hoarders cluster and 'stuff ' ....I got a,two man can in and filled it . We are two thirds through . It's very tough.
And again ADHd and autism 😂
love the total opposites!!😂😂❤❤