It was like being a Mall Cop at a Circus & Freakshow on another planet. Like... imagine the Barrens Crossroads from WoW but there's aliens, animals, fauna, silicon based lifeforms & robots & cyborgs & nanomachine collectives. & here I am, just some guy with delusions of being Robocop Darth Vader Clint Eastwood, just drinking my Martinis & posting Courage Wolf Memes.
Being terminally online at an early enough age to see slender man be created but not financially smart enough to know how to invest in Bitcoin is the worse feeling
Sounds like an easily missed opportunity in hindsight, there was frankly no way most people would believe that was a good idea back then, and only "weirdos" were shilling it back then as far as I remember it.
My biggest issue was how much crypto lacked security. It was a file you could steal off a hard drive. As a young techy teen, I was not comfortable risking money online by any means. Even PayPal was still a rarity for me. So investing in Bitcoin, mining and storing the coins on my windows XP laptop didn't seem smart or safe. I would have been investing the only $20 I had to my name that week if I was dumping money on crypto that wasn't even worth a penny. Hind sight is 2020. I wish I pulled out before 2022 but we live and learn.
imo its very cool that 2% of the 18-25 demographic has terminal gaming brain rot and is gonna talk about habbo raids and evangelion inbetween two doses of fentanyl to their robot nurses in 80 years
This is such a fascinating series, and always blows my mind how articulate these interviews are for the most "underground" topics. Trauma, military, murder, drug use. All with this bizarre backdrop of a hilariously random avatar.
Yeah, as bad/insane as some spots can be on the internet today, it was so much worse/exciting 15-25 years ago. Law enforcement didn't have a clue and ISPs just did not care, let alone people's parents knowing anything. When he mentioned Rotten, that took me way back.
Yeah, the *somewhat* less moderated times were interesting. I went from fun exploratory mode in mid 90s AOL chat rooms, talking about lighthearted things, downloading whatever few mermaid images there were to downloading every bad thing I could just to see the world by the early 2000s. I was a bit nervous about it, there actually was some law enforcement interest by that time. And yeah, our parents had little to no idea. Mine had barely touched the family computer until the mid 2000s.
this is extremely relatable. i got my first computer when i was 6 but i never had enough clout to moderate anything. completely fucked my life up. good times
I remember turning 6 in 2009 and pretty much got free reign on my family’s computer, which after a few years upgraded to an hand me down iPod, then to a iPad mini. I remember learning about Minecraft and steam and being amazed about how you don’t have to play games through a browser. Good times.
I grew up in a third world and had access to my dads laptop but no internet You can imagine how creative I got playing those default Microsoft games Maybe I'm glad I stayed with my mildly autistic Encarta kids and purple heart games for eons We somehow got limited and slow shit internet through a USB stick which required you to pay per how much you use. And me and my brother spend Friday evenings playing browser games which was a reward for us behaving. I really thought those were the peak of internet back then. I moved to the US at 14yo and man did I scour that shit like a Conquistador in the Amazonian, discovered chan in my late teens though so I was spared a bit but my current friends not so much since they been on it since 13/14
I need the younger folks to understand this: This man is speaking about the days when the internet was BRAND FUCKING NEW, and we were just discovering how people really were, all the things that people say if you give them complete anonymity. This right here is a piece of REAL FUCKING HISTORY. You're in for a fucking treat.
The ARPAnet, the predecessor of the Internet, was born in November 1969, making the Internet 50 years old. Then there was BBS and IRC cultures that all existed before AOL internet. 4chan is the internet in it's forties mate. I agree it's still interesting to hear a 4chan mod speak about tidying up that hell hole though
This dude made me feel old to be honest, 4chan had been around for a few years before this guy did his thing. The internet around 1998-2000 was insane and I probably shouldn't have been on it so young.
The most mind boggling thing is that 4chan was always just the same few people arguing over the same thing over and over, I guess I just didn't notice until later.
It's funny, /r9k/ is the board which explicitly disallows repeat posts, yet it literally never changes. You see the exact same post made over and over just rephrased in different ways.
dont forget about the greentext gibberish at the bottom of a post. R9k also has like literally 40 consistent users, even tho it's a newfag havsn they just leave it in 2 days.
I was in a college ‘interpersonal communications’ class and the professor was trying to get some social credit with the students by referencing what she called a “mem”. Immediately and as autisticly as I could muster, I corrected her, “Meme. Ma’am, it’s pronounced Meme not mem.” The class erupted with laughter, giving credence to my joke. Being a communications prof. she was aware that something I had said struck a chord, but wasn’t exactly sure as to why and just cautiously said thank you and then moved on. Later that semester I refused to help her jam a wooden pencil into the mouth of a seizing classmate because “I’m pretty sure the tongue swallow thing is a myth, Ma’am.” She was not my biggest fan…
I was in highschool from 05-09 and this resonated with me. Great vid. Its weird thinking back about how it was back then. YTMND/Newgrounds/4chan/somethingawful/ebaums.... that was my online life back then. There's days I miss. Things were just simpler back then....or maybe I was just that more naive.
Yup I’m a year older and agree, it truly was the Wild West era of the internet in my opinion. I have a ton of good memories of playing newgrounds games with friends of mine, and some of them are dead now and thinking about the site is bittersweet. Search engine optimization combined with people mainly visiting the stuff that we called “the internet” back then through aggregation sites like Reddit or a few social media apps completely changed the landscape (combined with copyright law enforcement becoming a joke)
This dude grew up on the other side of the internet, but I can 100% empathize with being raised online. My parents were neglectful in general, and I had unrestricted internet access starting at age 11. I got to see a lot of the early 4Chan raids from the distance of the geek culture forums I was on. I was on a lot of very sexual websites I definitely shouldn't have been on, as were a lot of other people around my age. Thankfully I NEVER gave personal information about myself in public spaces, and the only people I gave information to privately were people I'd built trust with over several months to years. I'm actually still in touch with a lot of the same people. Getting to watch them grow up (we're all pushing or past 30 now) has been inspiring. Girl I met on DeviantArt at 13 had a fascination with microbial diseases. She even had an Ebola plushie from Giant Microbes. She went to college for microbiology and now works with micro-organisms. Girl I used to roleplay with a lot has been working diligently on a novel. Admin of this little niche roleplay board I was on now works as an artist in the gaming industry. It makes me indescribably happy to see these "weird internet kids" I grew up with pursuing their passions. I don't think any of us would have if it weren't for the communities we found online.
@Biotear I said "neglectful in general". I didn't go into detail about it because it wasn't relevant and I didn't feel like digging up the gritty details of my trauma for a RUclips comment. Real "piss on the poor" energy there, bud.
Man, this guy was on the front lines for all the weird parts of the internet. This is so cool to see. Also the combo of weird avatar/setting and very real interesting discussion actually made sense thematically here, which is neat
the "taking a joke to the next level"-spiral is a very real and dangerous thing, not only on this basket weaving forum, but on social media in general. There's mentally unstable, or just very naive, people on the web and they will take some words very seriously I recommend sticking to the golden rule: "Treat other people as you want to be treated"
Theirs also some that are trans who double dip as twitch mods. Some of them even attempted to co-conspire with tupper to create false narrative and thereby a false permaban (of which failed, tupper is a cheater, I'll leave it at that for your imagination c:) The amount of shit I have documented on this actual garbage containers the past 4 years is insane.
His message to the world really hits me deep, especially since I was one of those shitheads who used to think Chris-chan's abuse was hilarious. Even if I didn't participate in the harassment, I didn't see the issue with it. Years later, I now feel terrible for how things turned out for Chris. Even if he had issues, he deserved so much better.
This was really interesting. It's cool to hear about the early days of the internet. It's good that he was able to realize that he wanted to be a better person. Not everyone is able to realize that.
"Oh you know if I really want to make a difference I'll go on the random board, I'll go on /b/" I literally groaned out loud and said "no dude please nooooo"
Man, this guy is talking like he was me. /b/ was a wild place and this hit me way deeper than I thought it would. Respect for the depth that he described his experience to.
i have been on the internet since i was born (not an ipad kid) from such a young age i have watched the most horrendous acts play out in 240p and i can say it's only gonna get worse as times go on
The late 2000's were the best times to be on the internet. Despite the dilution of users. I'll never forget it. And I've followed the schisims to every corner. Just remember your here forever, puddi puddi desu.
No! The 2000s prior to 2008 was mediocre, 2008-2012 was complete crap and sucked ass, and since the end of 2012 we've been living in the "teh Mayans were right" timeline
Hey Syrmor, hope you're doing well, I can imagine you've probably heard some unfortunate things in some of these interviews with people. I just hope you're taking care, and we appreciate all that you do.
>dial-up connection in the 2000s I literally had no idea that dial-up was even still a thing by 2000 until I worked a call center job that offerred remote support online, a lot of my US customers were in rural or country areas where dial-up was the standard. Kind of frustrating when I needed to remote control their PC to manually fix things across the internet, the way my cursor would lag and display movement only once every four seconds.
This is so weirdly relieving as someone that grew up on 4chan, not realizing the gravity of what I was seeing. I was a very young teen seeing things way beyond my understanding, and scrolling past it and getting bored of it. Not healthy. Pay attention to what your kids do, and be there for them! The root of my issue was being alone, and though it was my own choice.. I do wish my folks had pushed me to get out more, or at least interact and do different things than what I was every day. I learned a lot, most of it is useless and forgotten though. I'm very grateful to the people I've met, and my best friend in real life, someone I see often in person now, is someone I would've never met without the internet. I don't regret it. But if I had a son, or daughter? I would not let him / her be on there all day. Not always healthy. Not always productive. Not always learning good. Pay attention to your kids, and to yourself.
Yeah, I've seen a lot of what this guy is describing. It's all so beautifully bizarre when a guy is able to just rattle off all these absurd stories about such an infamous website.
This guy lived the life of early days of the internet, and lives well enough to tell these stories from his current state of person. I'm glad I watched this
A lot of our current 20-30 year olds who spent/spend a lot of time online that I speak with all have some form of lasting damage from the things they saw as a child online. I’d be curious to see what percentage of us from a young age were desensitized to all things deplorable.
I learned how to use computers with the ones with floppy discs, the next year the school upgraded to those see through Mac's and we had to relearn everything.
This guy explaining 4chan and all the stuff related to the site, it's hilarious and simultaneously sad that most of it happened because they were jokes that snowballed. It wasn't anything planned out or had any real organization to it, it was all just assholes on the internet trying to one-up other assholes and that's it
They actually just call them "jannies". Channitor sounds like some shit Reddit users would come up with, though by that I mean no offense, it sounds cool.
I remembered when I used to be terrified of mentioning 4chan because what if I got doxxed by them? The older I got the more I realized how chaotic and brainless but sometimes insightful the site can be. Now I lurk on the site for some niche trivia, reaction images, memes, and porn that I can't find anywhere else.
I can definitely relate to the part about being desensitized to gore. Back when I was in high school, we were still in the thick of it in Afghanistan and I wanted to join the Army after I graduated to continue my family's military tradition. Me, in my infinite wisdom, thought that if I desensitized myself to gore and violence that I would be able to come back from the sandbox at least a little more "normal" than others. I'm still desensitized to it years later and I was rejected due to medical conditions out of my control
i spent my formative years lurking /b/ so this was extremely relatable. i feel like i have this unique experience that very few people ever bring up in the real world and this felt validating. it’s crazy how jokes that nobody was ever serious about became real ideology and ruined the pure chaos of early 4chan. back then you called people a combo of the N word and F word just because it was the worst two words combined and now people actually mean that. he’s right about poes law i just never thought of it that way. I also feel a sense of pride for having played a part in things like operation tunisia and the sony or mastercard hacks
I blame moot for being so incompetent since the creation of 4chan. When you look back, you can see how moot seem to never understand what he was doing.
My mom and sister called them 'Mee Mee's' the first time I heard normies use 'meme' conversationally. I cringed so hard I almost keeled over on the couch. I'm 36 so I was online during dial-up days too. So relatable.
Wild remembering all this stuff. I miss that particular era of 4chan quite a bit. It was pure chaotic energy but with a real "fuck the man, you can't tell us what to do or believe or say" energy that occasionally produce some Chaotic Good moments. I won't say it was good (/b/ was never good), but it sure was a crazy moment in time. The internet was like the Wild West in a way it just isn't anymore. To me, image boards are the peak of social media and everything after that, except maybe tumblr, was a mistake.
@@awsheit Without tumblr, there never would've been the independence day counter-raid of 2014, which was perhaps the last truly hilarious thing to come out of 4Chan
@@awsheit Pre-porn ban tumblr was incredible. Like there was an era where you could edit other people's posts. Shitposting there was a trip. Still is tbh, though the crowd is smaller nowadays.
Yeah, Tumblr is honestly still just as good as it used to be. All that's really changed is the banning of porn and the userbase. In my opinion, it has the absolute most intuitive design of all popular social medias, and I really appreciate the blog style of the website. Its also one of the last big places where you can say whatever the fuck you want with little real life repercussions, unless you're not that anonymous. I hope it doesn't change.
Back then you could chat to people in mmos and make good friends but now days everyone just grinds and is super serious or are in closed discord groups.
Yeah I saw Terminator 2 when I was 8 or so. The milk carton scene definitely gave me some nightmares. I grew up with Rotten and have seem some fucked up shit on 4chan. I don't care about gore but cartel torture videos still horrify me. I hate it when someone is in pain. A corpse no matter how badly mangled does nothing to me.
This brings back memories from 2005 when 4chan was an early site. People used to link it to facepunch forums, the memes, the good, the bad. The internet was a weird and new place.
This video has been cathartic for me. I was badly traumatized by stuff I saw on 4Chan during the late 2000's-early 2010's. I'm mostly okay now, but nobody in my life can really relate to those experiences. It's difficult to feel like you're not normal.. but then somebody makes a documentary on RUclips about it and suddenly you feel seen. You feel like maybe it's okay to be in pain, maybe it wasn't all your fault that you were exposed to bad stuff. So thank you Syrmor and thank you Janitor. It means a lot.
Just imagine.. you meet someone, you fall in love, get married, and raise children together. And then one night, during a deep conversation, they finally tell you something they've been too ashamed to speak aloud all these years.. "I spent 12 bitcoin on a slice of pizza." I just don't know if any love is strong enough to survive that.
As someone who was on ED since 12ish and used 8chan from the age of 15 to 18, then switched to 4chan and continues to use it regularly, I can relate to a lot of what this dude is saying. Anonymity is like a drug, and it can disintegrate your ego like nothing else.
Thank you for this insight. And as someone who grew up on the internet, I relate. It was an eyeopening moment when I realized that the memes I used to see thrown around in niche racist groups made it into the internet mainstream. Ever since then I try to stray away from that side of the internet as much as possible
"im not gonna lie if you are unpaid moderating 4chan... something is very wrong" truer words have never been spoken
It was like being a Mall Cop at a Circus & Freakshow on another planet.
Like... imagine the Barrens Crossroads from WoW but there's aliens, animals, fauna, silicon based lifeforms & robots & cyborgs & nanomachine collectives.
& here I am, just some guy with delusions of being Robocop Darth Vader Clint Eastwood, just drinking my Martinis & posting Courage Wolf Memes.
_He does it for free_
they do it for FREE
That made me respect him. This guy is real.
One of my favorite interviews I've heard.
Honestly it's curiosity and I like that
Being terminally online at an early enough age to see slender man be created but not financially smart enough to know how to invest in Bitcoin is the worse feeling
Not throwing a thousand at Bitcoin/Ethereum/Doge pre-2020 will forever be my biggest financial regret in life.
@@BillNWI Pre december 2017 is where the money was at tbh
Sounds like an easily missed opportunity in hindsight, there was frankly no way most people would believe that was a good idea back then, and only "weirdos" were shilling it back then as far as I remember it.
Investing in Bitcoin WASNT financially smart, so nobody did it. That's why the value had such an insane skyrocket from where it started.
My biggest issue was how much crypto lacked security. It was a file you could steal off a hard drive. As a young techy teen, I was not comfortable risking money online by any means. Even PayPal was still a rarity for me. So investing in Bitcoin, mining and storing the coins on my windows XP laptop didn't seem smart or safe. I would have been investing the only $20 I had to my name that week if I was dumping money on crypto that wasn't even worth a penny. Hind sight is 2020. I wish I pulled out before 2022 but we live and learn.
imo its very cool that 2% of the 18-25 demographic has terminal gaming brain rot and is gonna talk about habbo raids and evangelion inbetween two doses of fentanyl to their robot nurses in 80 years
"poolsclosedpoolsclosedpoolsclosedpoolsclosedpoolsclosedpoolsclosedpoolsclosedpoolsclosed"
"Yes, Mr. Chan, let's get you back to your room now."
Pools closed...
Ok that’s funny
I wish it was only 2%, it's a weird feeling to see meme/YTP culture get handled by corporate teen girl advertising now
I still feel the temptation any time I see a "pool closed" sign...
>channy jannie
>avatar is a literal robot
Can't make this shit up
I hope your pfp isn't you irl.
@@donutmerchant8393 *chuckles educatedly* Sweetie, hush. I've heard it all before. Run along now.
@@anon4u please stop existing
@@donutmerchant8393 seethe
@@donutmerchant8393 meds, Now.
"I want to moderate /b/ because I want to make a real difference" lmfao
Every(one) newfriend's dream for /b/
That's like a janitor saying he wants to deal with a whole landfill... several times a day, daily
I mean, you gotta admire his ambition
I’m just chuckling at how many people may not realize how impossible of a thing this is.
"I want to keep the pigsty clean of mud and shit."
Oh god, when he started describing forums like they were some archaic technology of a lost age, I've never felt older in my life...
Yeah it’s rough lol
Don't have to feel old if you use Heyuri!ヽ(´∇`)ノ
Same XD
Sigh...
This is such a fascinating series, and always blows my mind how articulate these interviews are for the most "underground" topics. Trauma, military, murder, drug use. All with this bizarre backdrop of a hilariously random avatar.
I can't imagine being exposed to the worst sh*t possible and not being paid to do so plus also being a minor, christ.
That's why most people hate them
@@BigGreekCock what
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Yeah, as bad/insane as some spots can be on the internet today, it was so much worse/exciting 15-25 years ago. Law enforcement didn't have a clue and ISPs just did not care, let alone people's parents knowing anything. When he mentioned Rotten, that took me way back.
Rotten was definitely something that’s for sure , all the political stuff they got into was crazy
Yeah, the *somewhat* less moderated times were interesting. I went from fun exploratory mode in mid 90s AOL chat rooms, talking about lighthearted things, downloading whatever few mermaid images there were to downloading every bad thing I could just to see the world by the early 2000s. I was a bit nervous about it, there actually was some law enforcement interest by that time. And yeah, our parents had little to no idea. Mine had barely touched the family computer until the mid 2000s.
Can't believe he did it for free...
this is extremely relatable. i got my first computer when i was 6 but i never had enough clout to moderate anything. completely fucked my life up. good times
Lmao rustled
I remember turning 6 in 2009 and pretty much got free reign on my family’s computer, which after a few years upgraded to an hand me down iPod, then to a iPad mini. I remember learning about Minecraft and steam and being amazed about how you don’t have to play games through a browser. Good times.
I grew up in a third world and had access to my dads laptop but no internet
You can imagine how creative I got playing those default Microsoft games
Maybe I'm glad I stayed with my mildly autistic Encarta kids and purple heart games for eons
We somehow got limited and slow shit internet through a USB stick which required you to pay per how much you use. And me and my brother spend Friday evenings playing browser games which was a reward for us behaving. I really thought those were the peak of internet back then.
I moved to the US at 14yo and man did I scour that shit like a Conquistador in the Amazonian, discovered chan in my late teens though so I was spared a bit but my current friends not so much since they been on it since 13/14
yeppp brains fucked now lol
I need the younger folks to understand this: This man is speaking about the days when the internet was BRAND FUCKING NEW, and we were just discovering how people really were, all the things that people say if you give them complete anonymity. This right here is a piece of REAL FUCKING HISTORY. You're in for a fucking treat.
It wasn't, though. It wasn't dominated by contemporary tech companies but dial up internet had been around for quite some time.
No he's not. Minutes to midnight came out in 2007, I was already scrolling that side of the internet before then and even then it wasn't "brand new"
@@placeholder6517 he didnt say that happened first though just that it was his favorite of the earlier moments
The ARPAnet, the predecessor of the Internet, was born in November 1969, making the Internet 50 years old. Then there was BBS and IRC cultures that all existed before AOL internet. 4chan is the internet in it's forties mate. I agree it's still interesting to hear a 4chan mod speak about tidying up that hell hole though
This dude made me feel old to be honest, 4chan had been around for a few years before this guy did his thing. The internet around 1998-2000 was insane and I probably shouldn't have been on it so young.
"I Herd U Liek Mudkips"
4chan was a different place back then
yeah
Had to get your daily dose too
remember the fuckin "do the dinosaur " shitposting story
@@vergilous16 which one? There were a lot of permutations. The bathroom experiment disaster one is seared into my memory though.
Oh god I spouted that meme before long ago
Let’s not forget Caturday either, back when 4chan was wholesome and not too edgelordy
The most mind boggling thing is that 4chan was always just the same few people arguing over the same thing over and over, I guess I just didn't notice until later.
It's funny, /r9k/ is the board which explicitly disallows repeat posts, yet it literally never changes. You see the exact same post made over and over just rephrased in different ways.
dont forget about the greentext gibberish at the bottom of a post.
R9k also has like literally 40 consistent users, even tho it's a newfag havsn they just leave it in 2 days.
@@Nooticernsjsbs-qh5ufr9k haznt existed in years
But is coffee good for you? ( o Y o )
I was in a college ‘interpersonal communications’ class and the professor was trying to get some social credit with the students by referencing what she called a “mem”. Immediately and as autisticly as I could muster, I corrected her, “Meme. Ma’am, it’s pronounced Meme not mem.” The class erupted with laughter, giving credence to my joke. Being a communications prof. she was aware that something I had said struck a chord, but wasn’t exactly sure as to why and just cautiously said thank you and then moved on. Later that semester I refused to help her jam a wooden pencil into the mouth of a seizing classmate because “I’m pretty sure the tongue swallow thing is a myth, Ma’am.”
She was not my biggest fan…
I have epilepsy and I can confirm putting anything in a seizing persons mouth is a horrible, horrible idea.
It is a myth! You could even say it's a mem. She was gonna lose fingers/hurt the guy.
In Norwegian we say mem instead of meem. So I honestly would not even bat an eye.
@@EliGoldfish also got epilepsy, can confirm, putting stuff into anyones mouth while having a seizure is a *bad* idea.
iirc the actual remedy is just turning their head to the side
hearing someone say /mu/core gave me psychic damage
You won't ever hear someone say THAT on Heyuri!ヽ(´∇`)ノ
mewing-core
"When the shit posting wears off, you realize the people you pushed away were way closer than you thought."
It hurts bro
All these moments will be lost, like tears in the rain
"Time to die."
how goes the experiments
You can make new moments on Heyuri!( ´ω`)
I was in highschool from 05-09 and this resonated with me. Great vid. Its weird thinking back about how it was back then. YTMND/Newgrounds/4chan/somethingawful/ebaums.... that was my online life back then. There's days I miss. Things were just simpler back then....or maybe I was just that more naive.
Kinda find it amazing Newgrounds is still thriving and a decent chunk of people got exposed to it through Friday Night Funkin.
It’s weird being an 05 kid and gaining a new perspective on how the internet use to be, boutta graduate high school myself it’s all insane
Yup I’m a year older and agree, it truly was the Wild West era of the internet in my opinion.
I have a ton of good memories of playing newgrounds games with friends of mine, and some of them are dead now and thinking about the site is bittersweet.
Search engine optimization combined with people mainly visiting the stuff that we called “the internet” back then through aggregation sites like Reddit or a few social media apps completely changed the landscape (combined with copyright law enforcement becoming a joke)
Heyuri recaptures the experience!ヽ(´∇`)ノ
I think things were just simpler
The moment he said he volunteered to be a janitor on /b/ I knew how it was gonna end.
I'm only a few minutes in but I have a guess it ended with the party van showing up?
This dude grew up on the other side of the internet, but I can 100% empathize with being raised online. My parents were neglectful in general, and I had unrestricted internet access starting at age 11. I got to see a lot of the early 4Chan raids from the distance of the geek culture forums I was on. I was on a lot of very sexual websites I definitely shouldn't have been on, as were a lot of other people around my age. Thankfully I NEVER gave personal information about myself in public spaces, and the only people I gave information to privately were people I'd built trust with over several months to years. I'm actually still in touch with a lot of the same people. Getting to watch them grow up (we're all pushing or past 30 now) has been inspiring.
Girl I met on DeviantArt at 13 had a fascination with microbial diseases. She even had an Ebola plushie from Giant Microbes. She went to college for microbiology and now works with micro-organisms.
Girl I used to roleplay with a lot has been working diligently on a novel.
Admin of this little niche roleplay board I was on now works as an artist in the gaming industry.
It makes me indescribably happy to see these "weird internet kids" I grew up with pursuing their passions. I don't think any of us would have if it weren't for the communities we found online.
Heyuri will raise the next generation!ヽ(´∇`)ノ
So you blame ya parents?
That's not fucking neglect, anyone who claims they didn't do shit online their parents had no clue about, ESPECIALLY back then, is a damn liar.
@Biotear I said "neglectful in general". I didn't go into detail about it because it wasn't relevant and I didn't feel like digging up the gritty details of my trauma for a RUclips comment. Real "piss on the poor" energy there, bud.
@@NexLegacyAccount Look, people exaggerate that shit more than you'd want to believe. Sorry dude.
Man, this guy was on the front lines for all the weird parts of the internet. This is so cool to see.
Also the combo of weird avatar/setting and very real interesting discussion actually made sense thematically here, which is neat
Try Heyuri! Maybe you'll be on the frontlines for the NEW phase of Internet weirdness!ヽ(´∇`)ノ
syrmor, you're doing good work man. it makes my day when you post. stay golden.
the "taking a joke to the next level"-spiral is a very real and dangerous thing, not only on this basket weaving forum, but on social media in general. There's mentally unstable, or just very naive, people on the web and they will take some words very seriously
I recommend sticking to the golden rule: "Treat other people as you want to be treated"
This is top tier internet ethnography. Like you could teach clases at any university if you used academic lingo to "explain" what you see here.
This was actually really validating as someone who spent a lot of time on 4chan around the same age as this guy
"I remember the first Chris-Chan threads..."
Sir, you had my curiousity. Now you have my attention.
Idk what you expect. It's been like 18ish years and people have just turned those threads into 30 minute videos.
the old days were wild and untamed beyond belief. i remember when chrischan was just the lolcow of the day, not even a more famous one
The nostalgia is absolutely real.
I started tearing up when he brought up Image Macros.
I wish I could meet this man and buy him a beer.
*"Oh, if I really wanna make a difference, I'll go on /b!"*
Truly trial by fire right there
Wow I always assumed jannies were children but I never thought it'd be proven
Theirs also some that are trans who double dip as twitch mods. Some of them even attempted to co-conspire with tupper to create false narrative and thereby a false permaban (of which failed, tupper is a cheater, I'll leave it at that for your imagination c:)
The amount of shit I have documented on this actual garbage containers the past 4 years is insane.
@@GealuGalu meds
@@GealuGalu ha ha, ok buddy.
@@raskolnikov8644 sobbing
His message to the world really hits me deep, especially since I was one of those shitheads who used to think Chris-chan's abuse was hilarious. Even if I didn't participate in the harassment, I didn't see the issue with it.
Years later, I now feel terrible for how things turned out for Chris. Even if he had issues, he deserved so much better.
Chris is a terrible person either way
@@jjcoola998 why ?
Chris would have turned out the same, maybe even worse if everyone on the internet loved and supported him.
okay no, you are giving chris FAR too much leeway bro
Yeah his life would have been. Shitshow either way but at least we found comedy in tht tragedy.
Wow, this is hitting on some memories.
This was really interesting. It's cool to hear about the early days of the internet. It's good that he was able to realize that he wanted to be a better person. Not everyone is able to realize that.
"Oh you know if I really want to make a difference I'll go on the random board, I'll go on /b/"
I literally groaned out loud and said "no dude please nooooo"
This is probably one of the most important stories I've heard in a while, thanks.
🦓💚
This is the type of person I'd enjoy having as a friend. We both have gone through the fires of the internet.
21:00 That feeling when you realize you've been putting your soul to the grind stone for too long.
Oh man, I worked a similar thing late 90's into the 2000's and yeah it's weird.
It wasn't 4chan but a lot of 4chan came through to us.
Man, this guy is talking like he was me. /b/ was a wild place and this hit me way deeper than I thought it would. Respect for the depth that he described his experience to.
i have been on the internet since i was born (not an ipad kid) from such a young age i have watched the most horrendous acts play out in 240p and i can say it's only gonna get worse as times go on
The late 2000's were the best times to be on the internet. Despite the dilution of users. I'll never forget it. And I've followed the schisims to every corner.
Just remember your here forever, puddi puddi desu.
See you next Caturday
No! The 2000s prior to 2008 was mediocre, 2008-2012 was complete crap and sucked ass, and since the end of 2012 we've been living in the "teh Mayans were right" timeline
But! If you use Heyuri, everything you enjoyed about that era can be recaptured!
Hey Syrmor, hope you're doing well, I can imagine you've probably heard some unfortunate things in some of these interviews with people. I just hope you're taking care, and we appreciate all that you do.
A story from a jannie? Are hot pockets included?
Yes sir, completely complementary
@Brad Carter THEY DO IT FOR
They work for hot pockets, they live for hot pockets.
If you used Heyuri they would be!ヽ(´∇`)ノ
@@Valskyr...the smallhats
"You're the man now, dude" exactly how I remember it
It's actually you're the man now dog.
LOL THIS GUY IS THE PIZZA BITCOIN GUY. This man will forever be enshrined in the halls of history.
There’s more than one lol
The good old days.
Never to be seen again
This
Memes were less random and more consistent back then. Shame we cannot just have both really.
I want to go back.
Just like the good ol days before 9/11
>dial-up connection in the 2000s
I literally had no idea that dial-up was even still a thing by 2000 until I worked a call center job that offerred remote support online, a lot of my US customers were in rural or country areas where dial-up was the standard.
Kind of frustrating when I needed to remote control their PC to manually fix things across the internet, the way my cursor would lag and display movement only once every four seconds.
This is so weirdly relieving as someone that grew up on 4chan, not realizing the gravity of what I was seeing. I was a very young teen seeing things way beyond my understanding, and scrolling past it and getting bored of it. Not healthy. Pay attention to what your kids do, and be there for them! The root of my issue was being alone, and though it was my own choice.. I do wish my folks had pushed me to get out more, or at least interact and do different things than what I was every day. I learned a lot, most of it is useless and forgotten though. I'm very grateful to the people I've met, and my best friend in real life, someone I see often in person now, is someone I would've never met without the internet. I don't regret it.
But if I had a son, or daughter? I would not let him / her be on there all day. Not always healthy. Not always productive. Not always learning good. Pay attention to your kids, and to yourself.
Thank you Anon.
Ya done goofed
the drone avatar fits so well, many layers to that
I share a bunch of landmarks and experiences with this guy, it felt good to hear :D
Yeah, I've seen a lot of what this guy is describing. It's all so beautifully bizarre when a guy is able to just rattle off all these absurd stories about such an infamous website.
This guy lived the life of early days of the internet, and lives well enough to tell these stories from his current state of person. I'm glad I watched this
A lot of our current 20-30 year olds who spent/spend a lot of time online that I speak with all have some form of lasting damage from the things they saw as a child online. I’d be curious to see what percentage of us from a young age were desensitized to all things deplorable.
I don't feel like i have lasting damage. Why would i
When I was in like, 4th grade a kid brought up a video of a man being lit on fire. This was in the computer lab at school.
I think I'm gonna use this video to explain what my childhood was like whenever someone asks.
26:40 Jesus Christ, hearing that out loud articulated in a way that perfect describes how that feels is like a punch to the gut
I learned how to use computers with the ones with floppy discs, the next year the school upgraded to those see through Mac's and we had to relearn everything.
Having 4chan in the title shadowbanned this video but it’s good to hear from a frontline warrior against the degeneracy
4chan was way more comfy before. Misc was really good too on bodybuilding forums.
The bodybuilding forums were some shit in the day hahaha
@@ichwill7536 I can't believe they killed it, it was gold
Yeah it's actually wild how much it has changed since then
This is really cool! Historically relevant even,all the stuff he spoke about early internet i mean,from the inside
I feel like I should show this to my dad so that he can know what kind of shit I was up to on that computer he gave me at 11 years old in 2002.
This episode. too many feels this early in the morning. I wish everyone who had internet access had to watch this first before entering.
This guy explaining 4chan and all the stuff related to the site, it's hilarious and simultaneously sad that most of it happened because they were jokes that snowballed. It wasn't anything planned out or had any real organization to it, it was all just assholes on the internet trying to one-up other assholes and that's it
/b/ was the closest thing we've ever had to pure chaos
@@jadedandbitter And Heyuri is the next frontier.( ´ω`)
I get that, "I was there," feeling for sure.
I got to catch most of Ben Drowned as it happened.
You’re the man now dude
It's you're the man now dog.
New grounds in the early 2000s was a very special place in time only a few in context will ever understand
as a former VT student it’s hilarious to see one of our off-campus housing as a VR set up. Great video by the way!!
Really a missed opportunity to call the moderators 'Chanitors'.
They actually just call them "jannies". Channitor sounds like some shit Reddit users would come up with, though by that I mean no offense, it sounds cool.
@@theraymunator Yeah, I know what they're called. But a pun is way better.
@@rembrandx go back to reddit lmao
@@mcstench8913 Sorry, never heard of that.
@@mcstench8913 you’re on youtube u fuck you can’t tell anybody to go back anywhere
>oral history told by cancer
What do you mean?
"Do not recite shitpost to me. I was there when the first shitposts were made" energy.
I remembered when I used to be terrified of mentioning 4chan because what if I got doxxed by them?
The older I got the more I realized how chaotic and brainless but sometimes insightful the site can be.
Now I lurk on the site for some niche trivia, reaction images, memes, and porn that I can't find anywhere else.
"and porn that I can't find anywhere else."
🤔
@@ryan.1990 renaissance doomer
@@ryan.1990 that's what I had come to ask 😂😂😂😂
@@ryan.1990 You heard me
Maybe he did it for free, but it sure as hell were easier days
I can definitely relate to the part about being desensitized to gore. Back when I was in high school, we were still in the thick of it in Afghanistan and I wanted to join the Army after I graduated to continue my family's military tradition. Me, in my infinite wisdom, thought that if I desensitized myself to gore and violence that I would be able to come back from the sandbox at least a little more "normal" than others. I'm still desensitized to it years later and I was rejected due to medical conditions out of my control
i spent my formative years lurking /b/ so this was extremely relatable. i feel like i have this unique experience that very few people ever bring up in the real world and this felt validating. it’s crazy how jokes that nobody was ever serious about became real ideology and ruined the pure chaos of early 4chan. back then you called people a combo of the N word and F word just because it was the worst two words combined and now people actually mean that. he’s right about poes law i just never thought of it that way. I also feel a sense of pride for having played a part in things like operation tunisia and the sony or mastercard hacks
Try Heyuri! You can call people fraggots and nigras without any ideological intent behind it.( ´ω`)
I blame moot for being so incompetent since the creation of 4chan. When you look back, you can see how moot seem to never understand what he was doing.
My mom and sister called them 'Mee Mee's' the first time I heard normies use 'meme' conversationally. I cringed so hard I almost keeled over on the couch. I'm 36 so I was online during dial-up days too. So relatable.
Wild remembering all this stuff. I miss that particular era of 4chan quite a bit. It was pure chaotic energy but with a real "fuck the man, you can't tell us what to do or believe or say" energy that occasionally produce some Chaotic Good moments. I won't say it was good (/b/ was never good), but it sure was a crazy moment in time. The internet was like the Wild West in a way it just isn't anymore. To me, image boards are the peak of social media and everything after that, except maybe tumblr, was a mistake.
Yeah Tumblr totally wasn't a fucking mistake 🙄
@@awsheit Without tumblr, there never would've been the independence day counter-raid of 2014, which was perhaps the last truly hilarious thing to come out of 4Chan
@@awsheit Pre-porn ban tumblr was incredible. Like there was an era where you could edit other people's posts. Shitposting there was a trip. Still is tbh, though the crowd is smaller nowadays.
Yeah, Tumblr is honestly still just as good as it used to be. All that's really changed is the banning of porn and the userbase. In my opinion, it has the absolute most intuitive design of all popular social medias, and I really appreciate the blog style of the website. Its also one of the last big places where you can say whatever the fuck you want with little real life repercussions, unless you're not that anonymous. I hope it doesn't change.
Consequences will never be the same
We ought to double-no, TRIPLE the jannys' paycheck.
Back then you could chat to people in mmos and make good friends but now days everyone just grinds and is super serious or are in closed discord groups.
Yeah I saw Terminator 2 when I was 8 or so. The milk carton scene definitely gave me some nightmares. I grew up with Rotten and have seem some fucked up shit on 4chan. I don't care about gore but cartel torture videos still horrify me. I hate it when someone is in pain. A corpse no matter how badly mangled does nothing to me.
The throat noise. If you know, you know
@@ParallaxHearts the one with the chainsaw and pocket knife yeh?
@@chadking8767 nah, more like cartels feeding there dogs (Mexican style)
Gore doesn't really affect me either, but the animal abuse and CP is always engrained in my mind.
RIP the 4channel. Feds and glows took it over ;_;
Wait, what? 4channel is dead? I just went into /v/ like a week ago
Edit: ah wait gotcha
Dammit moot
Try Heyuri.
Ive been on 4chin for eons... its true once you go in you can NEVER leave.
I think this made me realize "Oh. I don't WANT to know what's going on in the back of absolutely everybody's mind."
Maturity: the capacity to look back in shame.
I miss when Touhou memes were mainstream on the entire site.
He sounds exactly like how you'd think a janny would sound
"They start drinking the coolaid" is referenced alot in this channel
Yeah... 4Chan moderation needs to be a paid job... Someone has to pay for the therapy visits.
You're right, i think we should double, no triple their salary!
This brings back memories from 2005 when 4chan was an early site. People used to link it to facepunch forums, the memes, the good, the bad. The internet was a weird and new place.
Try using Heyuri.( ´ω`)
Pool is closed 👨🏿💼💂🏾♂️💂🏾♂️💂🏾♂️💂🏾♂️
This video has been cathartic for me. I was badly traumatized by stuff I saw on 4Chan during the late 2000's-early 2010's. I'm mostly okay now, but nobody in my life can really relate to those experiences. It's difficult to feel like you're not normal.. but then somebody makes a documentary on RUclips about it and suddenly you feel seen. You feel like maybe it's okay to be in pain, maybe it wasn't all your fault that you were exposed to bad stuff. So thank you Syrmor and thank you Janitor. It means a lot.
if anyones wondering they do it for free
Your life experiences mirror mine very much. Best upbringing evar!!!
He did it for free
Just imagine.. you meet someone, you fall in love, get married, and raise children together. And then one night, during a deep conversation, they finally tell you something they've been too ashamed to speak aloud all these years..
"I spent 12 bitcoin on a slice of pizza."
I just don't know if any love is strong enough to survive that.
"I used to use You're The Man Now, Dude."
DUDE???? It's infamously dog, not dude
this man has my internet experience. and I to never expected VR
Ytmnd (your the man now dog) was my favorite that website influenced and paved the way for the formats we have now .
As someone who was on ED since 12ish and used 8chan from the age of 15 to 18, then switched to 4chan and continues to use it regularly, I can relate to a lot of what this dude is saying. Anonymity is like a drug, and it can disintegrate your ego like nothing else.
Why not dose up on Heyuri next? It's a very chill sort of high.( ´ω`)
@bobduckington68 I started using 4chan's /v/, /tg/, and /vp/ around two months before GamerGate kicked off and left with the exodus.
@bobduckington68 mostly /out/ and /ck/, I do a lotta camping, gardening, fishing, and cooking.
Thank you for this insight. And as someone who grew up on the internet, I relate. It was an eyeopening moment when I realized that the memes I used to see thrown around in niche racist groups made it into the internet mainstream. Ever since then I try to stray away from that side of the internet as much as possible
A core memory for me is the exact moment that /vp/ (Pokémon) opened