Dark Souls 3 Lore | The Archdeacons of the Deep
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- In this video we learn about the three Archdeacons of the Deep. We also make some comparisons to Aldrich and the Deep to Lovecraftian mythos! Super fun one, I say "Cthulhu" like 10 times!!!
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In the Japanese original version Aldritch is straight up called Eldritch, was only changed for international releases
Oh man, I didn't even know that! That's pretty neato! =]
This confirm lots of things, thank you
@@TheAshenHollow I think you mean Nito
Nice!@@sudoggs7178
Aha was it probably Erudurichu though?
Could Shrek live in Farron Keep?
Is Shrek Velka?
Its his SWAMP!
I guess if he wanted to. 🤷♂️
Not sure he’d like all the other inhabitants. He likes his privacy
No he would get squished by tree demons
This may be unrelated, but one of the most fascinating things to me is the placement of the sea behind Lothric Castle. You never quite get a good look at it until you actually ascend the castle, but once you you get a good look you can see how massive it is, and how it almost seems to be overtaking the land. I always felt this was symbolic in some way, the very land twisting and shaping itself to bring these Lords of Cinder together, but this huge sea preparing to engulf the world around it. The same happens in Dark Souls 2 (take this one with a grain of salt because we all know how faithful DS2 is to the lore), because there the ocean seems to be chipping away at the land and has overtaken much of Heide's Cathedral of Flame. Perhaps Aldritch's world is closer than anyone realizes.
The other thing that is also incredibly interesting is how the game deliberately leads you to Archdragon Peak, from Irithyll and the Profaned Dungeon, both of which are Sulyvahn's territory. Your first real view of Archdragon Peak is after Sulyvahn's boss fight, and it is perfectly framed in the archway that leads to this large central viewing platform, that incidentally provides a great view of the Peak. Another similar platform is a short ways off and near the Giants. This has to be deliberate placement. The last good look, and where we find our way to Archdragon Peak, is in the Dungeons and where we can meditate to be taken away. Why would Sulyvahn allow his followers to have such a great and unobstructed view of Archdragon Peak? Why is it showcased in such a way in the archway, and why have several large viewing platforms? Why allow the statues of the meditated dragon worshippers to exist in the Dungeons if they are not affiliated in some way? I think there is more here than we realize. It is also possible he knows of the existence of the Firstborn Son of Gwynn and is trying to find a means of getting his followers and Aldritch there, for obvious reasons, to establish a means to attack. His goals always seem more malicious than friendly.
“Try beating to a pulp”
“If only I had a youth”
How ashen hollow starts videos:
When you look on firebombs describtion...
How ashen hollow ends videos:
And this is why Leonhard is using Iudex gundyr who is Russian robot to send data about Pontiffs secret gold pine resin factory under high wall. Good night!
Oh and that’s how Velka is a lesbian
Thanks for watching
"may have an idea of one of their identities".
I SWEAR ASHEN, IF YOU SAY VELKA
That's an overused joke.
Probably she just commit die.
OR MAYBE SHE IS THE [redacted]
@@istolethispfpfromreddit "commit die" is my new favourite phrase. Thanks, friend
@@SmallGherkin do not worry bro, I got the freshest memes here!
I didn't.... But I did squeeze her into the video mentions! XD
2:53 the in canon reason miracles suck in DS3, the power of the gods has dwindled and there is little faith in their stories anymore
The catalyst for miracles depends on which one you use talisman are for physical chimes are for element meaning if you use the why of white corona with a talisman it does more damage but if you use it with a chime it does less damage still it’s also that from seen how powerful miracles can be and just curved stomped miracles into the ground
Deacons: "proficent at sorcery"
Also Deacons: *shooting fireballs from a sorcery catalyst*
flame sorceries predate pyromancies
Time for DS4, "The Deep" theme
Oh boy, I'm already dreaming about the lore
Hell yeah, new DS3 lore video in 2020.
Aldrich didn't just eat Gwyndolyn but ate Niito as well, and I can see Aldrich's lower half being a mixture of Niito and a very large grub.
There's also proof he ate Lord Nito by looking at the weapon he holds. The weapon is half sword half catalyst.
@@ladyinwaiting5201 but the sword is not real (like the life-hunt scyte ) whyle the catalyst of gwyndolin is real. I think he just tried to reproduce those weapons from his dreams.
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Where in the world did you get that from? No where in the game does it indicate that the weapon isn't real or the Aldrich dreams things into existence.
He get visions from eating people yes, but that's something else.
@@ladyinwaiting5201 the sword is made of magic and the scyte is a miracle unlike the one used by priscilla. I don't know how he managed to recreate them(so i supposed they come from his dreams ), but i don't think it's because he ate their owners.
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Yeah I'm not buying into that. The Dark Souls world is filled with magic, so to say something isn't real because it is magic doesn't make sense to me.
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daaaaamn! the thumbnail was so good looking, i thought it was a dlc announcement xD
finally got home and opened this and just nearly spit out my drink at your call out of McDonald's
Was it a sweet tea from Mickey D's? ;)
No sadly it was a Dr.Pepper bought from the store near me
I hadn't considered Aldritch having been Klimt, I like this idea a lot. Nor had I considered him being reborn from Rosaria, let alone being her first(to be re)born. Really compelling especially considering the shape of her "children" who have been reborn too many times. I definitely think Lothric is still a likely candidate for pretty much the same reasons Aldritch is, to keep his secret. In Lothric's case, the grand betrayal and/or the atrocities committed to Rosaria in the name of a perfect heir. But there's something very physically striking about Rosaria's bedchambers that I've never heard mentioned that lends itself to Aldritch's presence one way or another. The bent bars in the space closest to her, and the severely bent gate/bars that would've otherwise seemingly imprisoned Rosaria. The way these things are bent are, to me, clearly to make room for Aldritch's cylindrical gluttonous body. Also, who tf pinned all those worm-babies to the wall? How? What vantage point did they need?? what weapon could do this??? Still a mystery to me...
Another possibility for who that large man-grub is. It's clearly someone Rosaria cares for, if she has much of a mind left after all her trauma... Could it be Gertrude? We don't see Gertrude anywhere in the game. Just a thought. Lastly, the hollow priest up the elevator from the cathedral bonfire and up the ladder from the crossbow wielding hollow... the one wielding the Deep Ring... it's very peculiar that he doesn't aggro even when attacked. Thank you once again Ashy, can I call you Ashy? - lore manic fan
I have a theory about the "age of the deep seas": there is some evidence that the deep is similar to the abyss, which can be interpreted as they share the same source, humanity or maybe even souls in general.
But the deep is far more "beasty" and twisted in nature, than the abyss created by Manus.
In fact, the term "deep" is also used in not 1, but 2 other soulsborne games: ds2 and bloodborne.
In ds2, it was referred as the birthplace of great sea creatures, which were hunted by pirates of no-man's wharf.
In bloodborne, it's know as the realm of the great old ones, and it's also referred as "deep seas" or "deep ocean".
Again, very much lovecraftian in style... but this theme is also used to represent another being, who created a deep fog around the world: the old one, from demon's souls.
I have a theory: can be that this particular old one, which engulfed the world in fog, which eated all souls and created great beings, is still alive? This means that...
The deep IS his creation, to trick and lure souls into his maw, into the "bedrock of this world"...
Again, it's just a theory, but as a theory, it hold ground.
Remember that the old one from demon's souls is considered the source of miracles and sorcery, as well pyromancies.
For me, this is a good point.
I dig it! =D
@Sab0t3ur it's perfectly plausible that Manus is the furtive pygmy, but we have no evidence about this, because the furtive pygmy will always be hidden: maybe that's the point, but I don't know.
Anyway, Manus created the abyss, but with the presence of the deep and the visions of deep seas we have enough material to say that any humanity, if stimulated enough with physical and psychological torture, can react and create a "bridge" to this darkness below.
Manus was the first, so he is the rightful "father of the abyss" in a metaphorical way.
Maybe the deep was born with the same method, but it's strange we find no one similar to Manus.
One of the most interesting factions!
Dark Souls Valentine's Day cards is what the upload date has given to me. Lol wonderful video though. I adore the lore of this series and it's badass to see so much research put into it by the community.
As always you’re insightful mind never ceases to amaze me, I always assumed there was some connection to Lovecraft just more from bloodborne not dark souls. This on the other hand might just prove me wrong, great job!
You're too kind, friend! =D
I’m legit addicted to watching your lore videos lol
I'm glad you mentioned that Aldrich is a mangrub. So many people seem to ignore that.
Rosaria was most like the reason he's not 'sludge' as he appears in the opening.
The Age of Deep, like the First Flame, is a reference to the philosopher Heraclitus.
He believed that fire and conflict (disparity) was the essence of all things and that fire became seawater as part of an elemental cycle.
We need more Dark Souls in our life
Thanks for the upload. I was wondering about these guys, as a non souls player
Been waiting for more on The Deep!
Idk if it means anything, but there is a pendant on the cathedral knights armor.
Been a sub for a number of years now and just don't get bored of these Vids .
Keep up the good work 👍
You legend! I'll do my best! =D
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Just how big was Klimt's Man-grub thing? Dude had a bident between his legs is what all the Ashen ones are saying.
I’ve never realized Klimt was a grub on Rosarias bed. I thought she was part grub in the first place.
This makes a lot of sense, thank you i enjoyed this :)
So if Rosaria is indeed Gwynevere and the nameless king is her first born son, he cut her tongue out after being cast out of the annals of history for helping the dragons, Gwyn sacrificed himself and Gwynevere had more children and then supposedly left to the cathedral of the deep to become Rosaria after leaving an illusion of herself and started the covenant of Rosarias fingers where the servants would collect tongues for her,
If this is the true way the story happened then I wanna know, are her servants aware she was previously Gwynevere, why did the deep let her reside in the cathedral of they begun practicing sorceries/dark sorceries, were her children aware of where she went ?
Gwynevere is the female firstborn of gwyn, that's no point she give the life to the nameless king.
Good point thought
@@jacobhoover1654 interesting theory!
Then explain why outside of Rosaria there is a mess of a war
@@jacobhoover1654 I think not.
We find a grub in the archive's, near the gertrude cage.
Grubs itself spawn a trident with white feather, which is a thing associated with lothric, gertrude and "the angels".
I know you can get a gwynevere miracle from Rosaria's soul; but this can mean that she is the daughter of gwynevere, and not the big lady herself.
So, a possibility is that Rosaria is Gertrude (who has changed name to avoid persecution and suspects) and Aldritch, who sought to devour the gods, has discovered this and he attempted to eat a god of the old royal family.
That's why outside of Rosaria we find dead corpses and the door closed.
For more info, watch the vaativydia video about tha angels, I agree with his theory.
@@jacobhoover1654 the feather's must be the key.
If not, why they show up in the trident, in the pillars of light miracles, AND on the Prince Lothric sword weapon art?
(That sword has also the benedition of Gertrude, if you didn't know)
Gwynevere has not this connection, but if she is the wife of Oceiros, than this explain her presence in Rosaria.
I would love for there to other souls of ordinary people with heavy importance or popularity for example soul of solaire sirrus hawkwood and even the giant black smith and you can transpose them into spells similar to the soul of rosaria
Solaire: incandescent obsession ( creates a sun that will attract enemies and after a while it will explode but it deals both fire and lightning)
Giant black smith: divine work( will increase all damage of the weapon by 20%)
Lore, need more lore. Keep up the good work buddy.
It’s never too late for some bloodborne content
Hey it's never too late for you to start doing Bloodborne lore videos lol.
Jake, I just finished Bloodborne and i have soo many questions. I would live it if you did a video series on its lore
No idea how relevant this is or could be, but McDonnell's not quite dead, not quite alive body situation could be something akin to the way certain Buddhist monks would allow themselves to essentially be mummified while still alive in order for their mind to reach Nirvana. Could be a similar shtick here
i honestly thought the thumbnail was those veggies going "allow us to introduce ourselves"
Do you like to talk to tomatoes? Can a squash make you smile?
@@TheAshenHollow do you like to waltz with potatoes down the produce aisle?
Hey I love your dark souls content man! I rescue you subbed and will definitely stay subbed with stuff like this!
Another connection between the cthulhu and Aldrich is that in both cases a person has a connection with "An Old One" through a dream, and our cannibal priest is able to have dreams when he eats someone.
So I’m replaying DS2 and if you look at the Tseldora Robe chest piece, it has a similar pattern as the Rosaria’s Fingers. Not sure if there’s any connection but it looks similar
In japanese his name is just straight up Eldritch. It was changed to Aldritch in the English version. Me personally I like the sound of Aldritch more.
How did I miss that, its basically a one to one of the elder sign like how the hunters mark is to the brand of sacrifice
Great video however Time is not convoluted as the english says, time is stagnant. When you take the time to be stagnant everything about the timeline starts to make more sense. It's why the Ringed City did not change, it's why heroes fade in and out. It's why we can see different events happening.
Makes the bonfire lore make way more sense too. If every instance of us appearing at a bonfire is the same moment in time. Eventually, you progress from start to finish in a single moment-1 instance-even if you technically stop at the bonfires which resets all the enemies, because its the same moment in time-except now YOU have somehow changed where you exist in time. Through the power of flame, disparity can occur. Change. Time can progress.
This also adds a whole new layer to humanity and souls as a whole.
If everytime time is reset to the same moment, yet you retained the souls of the same hollows who stand behind you now-still in their own moment of time. The idea of an endless-limitless soul begins to appear, and yet, through our power of flame and change-we create the hollows both forward and backwards in time.
The undead curse that is unstoppable? Its the playerbase progressing through the game, collecting all the souls in a single moment of time, and creating hollows in our wake. Even though we percieve the past, the future, and the end of time as the very present unchanging moment.
Epic.
Great video as always
Hey mate, love your videos. just wanted to note something. the statues at the cathedral of the deep, are they not solid stone? as in no one covered them up, they were made that way? i dont think its a literal blanket thats been thrown over them. thats what ive always thought anyways. interested to know what you think about that. lmk and good luck ashen one
ps obviously im talking about the ones that outline the cathedral, not the ones with the red blanket, in which case your obviously right about those ones lol
You can still rant about Bloodborne, they still need to port it to PC. I'll listen to the eldritch awesomeness! Keep chargin' my dude.
Doesn't the name Clemens come up somewhere in Lovecraft's works?
Klimpt is probably the slug always on her
nice bro! badass video. that Lovecraft shit has me hard.
Thanks, friend! I was stoked to get to drop some Lovecraft shit! =]
Since Klimt put his faith behind him I strongly doubt the tallgrub with Rosaria could be him, that tall grub looks too affectionate of Rosaria
R'leh is pronounced Rillyeh/Rillyae.
Not trying to nitpick, just helpin a fellow lore junkie out. Great vid tho ✌
You think rosaria would've been some psuedo firekeeper?
I don't know about everyone else but I see a lot of parallels. Like if ds1 was flip upside-down and turn inside-out.
Thats what I'm seeing in ds3, but in the making of both games many things where cut, lost, and forgotten. Like the farron wolf in a random tower was supposed to be some boss or character you encounter. But again a lot of things where cut and scrap.
Rosaria is Gwenevere
No, she's the daughter of Gwenevere.
@@anonymous_9491 Here is my arguments why Rosaria is Gwenevere:
-Gwenevere is the godess of birth while Rosaria is the godess of re-Birth
-Her soul give a miracle of Gwenevere.(It doesent prove that she is not a descendent but it still an indice in this direction
-Leonhart bring her soul where Genevere was in DS1
-Her tongue was eaten by her first-born, which is likely Ocelot(I don't think he can be something else than a monster)
-She stand on a bed like in DS1
The fact she was locked in the cathedral is also coherent with my theorie about Oceiros and Ludleth
And now my argument why she is not a daughter of Gwenevere:
-She is refered as a godess unlike all her others children
-Gertrude is in her cage, guarded by the angel knights (Those knight are called Gertrude's knights and i Don't think they would protect the body of someone else)
-In the game, Gwenevere has 5 children. I don't think there would be another child that was not mentioned
@@user-pc3nc3hg6w so your saying that Gwenevere lost her tounge to ocelotte and abandon the lothric line and some how became Rosaria?
Oh wait- you saying that that when after ocelotte was born through Ocieros and in that process somehow she lost her tounge which somehow made her into a goddess of rebirth and so Ocieros locked her away in the cathedral with cribs.
I'm trying to rap my head around this but I'm just getting knots from thinking about this. But I did heard that it is parallel to that one Shinto Legend.
She Gwenevere maybe had an important role but I guess that's why they say that the queen of lothric mysteriously disappeared. Making us look in the other direction, but the answer is obviously in front of us the whole time. Rosaria could be Gwenevere.
@@anonymous_9491 Here is my theory:
When Ocelotte was born, he eat the tongue of her mother. The trauma caused the mental death of Gwenevere and altered her soul, turning her into Rosaria. Oceiros also goes crazy. Then come Ludleth's team. They wanted to protect the first flame and extend the sacrifice of the lords of cinder. So they used Oceiros to protect the eyes of the first firekeeper using baby cry to maintain his Madness (They also used Gundyr in the same way). And Genevere/Rosaria was locked in the cathedral of the deep, which act as a "trashcan" since Aldrich became a man-eater. And then she was discovered by Kleint who start the cult of the Rosaria's fingers.
I mean I would still listen you talk about bloodborne happily, or even lovecraft!
6:00 Then you have a souls game whose final "boss" is inside an eldritch creature literally called "The old one"
Who stole Horace the Hushed's tongue? Aldrich/Klimpt?
Why did you have to reupload it ?
RUclips kept saying it was unavailable for me, so I didn't know if it was biffed or something. So I just reuploaded! o_O
@@TheAshenHollow :(
1:34 god dang it i wanted to make that joke
McDonnell = 'son of Domhnall' Domhnall of Zena?
What's the music called at the start of the video?
Bruh if you made bloodborne content, I'd eat it up.
Jus sayin I wouldn’t mind watching your bloodborne lore👀👀👀
Good video
Deacon gang
Nice
U can still make vids on bloodborn tho
You mention wishing you had started this channel about Bloodborne. Genuinely curious, any reason why you haven't delved into Bloodborne lore on this channel?
I just haven't delved too deeply into all the Bloodborne content and being unfamiliar with it all, I didn't want to be doing videos rehashing things people had already gone over extensively, since I'd be way late to the party.
@@TheAshenHollow That's completely fair. It is a completely different mythos so I can understand not feeling comfortable diving into it. For what it's worth, I don't think there's any harm in rehashing things people have already gone over - I follow something like 10 SoulsBorne lore channels and whilst there is a lot of overlap in content and theories, with each new take a fresh thing is usually uncovered (and even if it isn't, SoulsBorne lore is like a comfortable bedtime story to me where I don't mind hearing the same thing again, so long as its well told). If you ever do get the urge to cover Bloodborne I'm sure I don't speak only for myself in saying I'd be interested to hear what you have to say. And y'know, interested to hear how you shoehorn Velka into it too ;)
All i know is, they’re all skum. And i like it
church of the deep is really a messed up place
So alrdrich is a mangrub???
Cthulhu fhtagn!
I have the power!
What happened with the last upload homi?
RUclips kept saying it was unavailable for me, so I didn't know if it was biffed or something. So I just reuploaded! o_O
I like that, yeah he's probably this big mangrub but that's not as cool because it doesn't involve Cthulhu. Lol
I think Rosaria is Gwenevere and the big mangrub is ocelot, her son.
Great content
Only 87 k subs?
Thanks!
Yep that's what I've got! Hoping to make it to 100k one day! =]
@@TheAshenHollow you're going to make it bro
You got it
I'd watch some bloodborn lore...js
Lovecraft = win
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I'm done. I won't hold back anymore. The age of deep seas is bloodborne. That's why his name is Eldritch and the candles in the cathedral look like the Deep Sea rune. Miyazaki will never confirm this because of lawsuits, but this was 100% his intention when he designed those references. I hate that this is true, but anything other than this is wasting time. And I'm done wasting my time with souls lore.
Lawsuits? Why?
@@kokirij0167 Sony, but it doesn't matter, because Sony doesn't have a patent on fucking Runes. ELDEN RING THO MY DUDES;if we can ride horses;maybe we can ride ships?
I hate that recently people have started quoting those short poems, and adding more non sense to that story about made up fake things. The fact that people think it's real makes me go "wow people are stupid ". The guy was a racist, and poor writer he never sold any books of his writing and ripped off Edgar Allan poe.
Things got tense in the Cathedral when McDonnell Trump called for investigations into Joe Bident.
If time is convoluted who’s to say u didn’t start this channel when bloodborne came out. Lol.
Oof. You got me there!
Tall guys always have bigger man grubs.
Just make bloodborne content lol
Let it die boys