BEST GOLF IRON FOR 2022? Mizuno Pro 225 vs TaylorMade P790
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
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I compare possibly the best two irons of 2022, the new Mizuno Pro 225 HMB Iron against the TaylorMade P790 Iron in a head to head battle. Two forged golf irons, hollow construction providing great feel and forgiveness but also delivering power and fast ball speed resulting in hitting the ball further and gaining extra yards.
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when you put the 2 clubs on the floor next to one another............I was stunned how much nicer the Mizuno looked over the TM.........beautiful and great performance !!!!
@@ThaNathanater Nah,they just look,and perform better than the Taylormade.
Just been for my first ever fitting today. Went in with p790 and Cobra in my mind.
Ended up walking out having ordered the 225s. They felt incredible blew the others out of the water for me as a high handicapper. Felt better and more consistent than the 6 other irons I tested today including the big cavity back GI irons I thought I would get.
I've played Mizuno for the last 25 years and they would be my go to.
Thanks for the comparison. If possible it would be great if you could do a comparison between the 225 and the JPX 921 forged when it comes to performance and forgiveness. I’m an 8/mid handicapper.
Yes! Please do that.
It is quite similar performance but the 225 has more construct with technology of halo and It look like Brade but it is easy to hit. Thin top line and not chunky one.
Just ordered the 225 after months of searching I had/hit everything under the sun , honma tr21x , 790 , apex pro, mavrik pro , callaway st pro yadda yadda hands down feel sound performance and consistency was the 225 , most of the other irons have flyer problems 7 irons going 175 until they inexplicably go 190...
Happens all the time with hollow irons most fitters just delete that so it doesn't skew the numbers but when it happens when yer playing you don't get to delete that ....😁
I am looking for irons and falling in love with the Mizuno 225. Everyone has a good review of them.
For me, it's Mizuno every day. Such a classy look and performance to match.
I agree. I just got one too.
What impresses me the most about the 225 is there’s nothing added in the hollow body like all the other ones and yet it sounds and feels better then other hollow body irons . Timeless look as well .
Could you compare 225 VS T200 ?
My view is that every now and then TM makes a revolutionary product that is miles better than most stuff out there. Then they go and tinker and mess with it. The R320 drivers. The Bubble Burner fairway woods. The Monza Spyder putter. The 2021 P790's are one of those products and I expect them to screw it up fairly soon.
Mizuno on the other hand always makes a nice product in the iron category and I think in the hand of the low handicapper, I'd suggest stick with Mizuno's. Low handicappers are all about feel and dispersion. If you are a mid handicapper or older player, I'd go with the P790's. Just a bit better forgiveness, bit better distance. So get them before TM abandons them for something inferior.
Thanks for the review! I was going to buy the p790 but I think im going to wait for the 225 now.
The Mizuno 225 irons are simply beautiful to look at - good comparative review 👏🏼👏🏼
Mizuno for me just on the looks they stand out much more for my eye seeing that all my clubs are Taylormade
Please compare mizuno pro 223 vs titleist t100s . Thanks !!
Great head-to-head, Michael. Interesting. The spin is lower on 225, but so much more consistent. 225 has tighter standards of deviation across the board. The spin wouldn't bother me, anyway, as I'm used to playing stronger-lofted, lower-spinning irons, and don't have any problem holding greens with them. The height is good and the descent angle is just fine with both. At my speeds (quite a bit slower) the spin will be even lower and descent angle will likely be closer to 45º, based on my numbers with several different 7-irons that are right around that 30º in loft. But that's going to work fine. I don't play a lot of super firm greens, and when I do, I tend to just play a spinnier ball. With the 225 carrying further and looking (to my eye) WAAAY better, I can't wait to try them. Probably will wait and pick up a used set in 10 months or so.
How are the 225 treating you 😉
Totally understand why Mizuno haven't gone for the foam- foam will change shape, even just a tiny amount, over time and may also degrade. Honestly though, if you're in the players bracket for this type of iron, why would you choose TM over Mizuno if both are similar? One spends a fortune on marketing and gimmicks, the other just makes beautiful irons and just goes about their business.
well said!
WEll, Taylor Made didn't bomb Pearl harbor did they? it was the japanese so I won't be supporting MIZUNO
@@jeffyeah4256 Eh? Don't be silly, different people now. At what date do you draw the line on events or wars? Because every country/peoples has a history of violence against each other. You're likely descended from Europeans or Africans so if you know the countries you can see theirs. So should native Americans hate you for the genocide white European's committed upon them? Or how about all all the countries occupied by the Romans? Should they hate Italy now? Japan is a civilised, Western ally now.
I honestly don’t think you would be able to detect any difference over time due to polymer degradation. The material is well protected in the hollow body, and the slight changes to be expected over time would be less than the impact of groove wear. Anyway, I would choose something else, have played mizuno though, and will look in a third direction.
@@jeffyeah4256 This has to be the most ridiculous justification I've ever heard. You can't just be openly xenophobic and expect people to be okay with it. Shameful
I just went through a extensive iron fitting and i had my ah-ha moment when the Mizuno Pro 225 was put in my hands with Modus 105S shaft. I could not miss a shot! Unbelievable iron that i have on order through the fitter for my specs now. I have been a big Srixon guy for the last 5-6 years and have nothing bad to say about that Brand and i currently game the X5's but was never over the moon about them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I have never played Mizuno until now and cannot wait to get my new irons in!
How would you compare them forgiveness wise?
How do these compare with your zx5?
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Hi Michael and hello from Arizona. Excellent video. I was seriously considering the Hot Metal Pros but now I am thinking the 225. Never a doubt . . .Mizuno.
You won't go wrong with Mizuno , japanese are proud about Craftsmanship
I really thought I would like the P790s until I tried them side by side, I ordered the 225s
Already have the new P790’s and love them.
I have the 2019 versions. For a middle hcper, it’s hard to go wrong with them. The Mizuno do look nice though. You can’t lose either way.
I owned both these irons and the 225 is IMO better , the feel and looks of the 225’s are unmatched.
Mizuno looks way better easy choice
Great video and comparison!
Thanks
Would it be possible for you to put the T-200 up against the Mizuno 225?
Thanks again
I’m open to either I hit the 790’s and the feel and forgiveness coupled with dispersion will be tough to beat. The dispersion for me was much tighter than the Apex irons. I’ve got an iron fitting scheduled with TXG in April so both will be tried, can’t wait
Good luck with your fitting at TXG, make sure they have the stock shafts. I went there to get fit for T200 irons and I was surprised they didn't have the AMT shafts!
The carry distance with the p790 seems really inconsistent whereas the Mizuno are all in the 180’s. TM have a common problem with getting those “jumper shots” from the p790s
Thanks Michael. Just finished a 2hr fitting session, and went into the fitting thinking i would be walking out with the 225's. Though I walked out and purchased the 790's. Both clubs are beautiful to look at and the strike off the face was very similar. Though i was gaining an extra 10 - 12 meters off the 790's vs 225's. I also tried PXG's and Titleist (T 200's) they were not in the same league as the 790's or the 225's.
How would you compare the 225 with the new T200’s ? Is the Titelist the same blade length or a bit smaller?
I was wanting to upgrade my Mizuno jpx 850's to the new jpx 921 forged irons.
I'm glad I waited.
The Mizuno 225 looks a lot better and the preformance seems to be around the same.
Can't wait to compare the two.
💥How about doing a comparison video on the jpx 921 forged and the 225🍻
The forged are better tbh, hit both and I own the 921s haha
@@aidangriffiths5075 isn't both the 921 and 225 forged?
@@TheZombieeeeeee yes, but forged is in the name of the 921s
@@TheZombieeeeeee The 921 Forged is 100% forged, but I believe that the 225 has a forged face and non-forged hollow body like the 921 Hot Metal series.... beautiful irons but not quite as soft feeling as a fully forged iron. The 921 Forged feels amazing and soft very time.
I had my JPX900s for a few years now and really like them. The 919s came out right after I bought the 900s. I felt like I got shafted on my irons. Then when I was about to get those a year later the 921s hit the market. Not sure if there was much difference in all those so I waited. This is the year I'm buying a new set and now these 225s come out. I am glad I waited. These look consistent and look beautiful and Perfect for me.
Mizuno
On the spin the P790 numbers are skewed by one high spinning shot which was down to strike. If you remove that then the P790 has maybe 250 rpm more on average than the 225. That probably will not make any difference in the real world. Much as I like the P790s, if I was buying new irons in this category I would try the 225 first.
It also skewed the distance number. That shot should have left out of the data set.
If you get a chance, please put 225 against P770. Thanks and I love the format you use when trying out clubs. Always trust the data! Thanks.
I would play the Miura baby blade over either one of these seven days a week and 10 times on Sunday
Thanks Mike great head to head Would have to be the P790 for me as the 225 Not available in Lefty!!
I would appreciate more committmented preference on your part to one or the other in summation, the numbers in this case don't really define that for us
225 Hands down... Just got fitted for mine, just great great feel...
Going to the Mizuno side is a no brainer.
Tried both in a fitting as well as many others. 225 came out best for me.
I really like the P790s (I wanted them) and at times I feel it can be easy to be drawn to a specific brand or style of club. For that reason I asked the fitter to not tell me what club he was handing me next. I didn’t look at the back and most of the time I had no idea what I was hitting. Some you kinda can tell but for the most part I had no idea.
Need to see the 225 vs the new cobra forged tec irons !!
Owner of the 225, and it is a powerful, soft feeling rocket launcher.
Thank you for a nice video. The Mizuno Pro has a beautiful profile based on the Mizuno MP 20, the Titleist 680 and the 1970s Macgregor VIP. The use of a metallic or silver ferrule adds a classic look. There is no real technology like AI in irons and so choice will always be subjective.
Would love to see these up against the Hogan ptx pro, which you loved.
Do you have the Pro 225 in standard loft/lie? It's a degree flat in the 7i compared to the 790 (lie angle 61.5 vs. 62.5). That could explain some of the right bias.
Mizuno irons lies are 1 degree lower than titleist or Taylor made.I went 1.5 degrees upright Hmp
@@bradganz6787 Yeah, if you're missing right, an upright lie angle adjustment will help. I think Mizuno are 1 degree flat compared to just about every other manufacturer.
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I tried the new P790’s and the MP20 hmb’s but straight away got the 790’s as they’ve ironed out those occasional flyers. I’ve had a long time away from golf and always had blades so anything will be drastically different to me, I’ll probably change to the new P770’s next year
I hit a 7 iron with my mizuno mp59s 165yds I hit the 225s 7 iron 183yds on my first try...
I love videos like this but PLEASE provide more details! "Who," are these irons for? Will they benefit a high handicapper, mid, low....???
Keep standard deviations in mind Mike - carry consistency would seem particularly important for irons, and the Mizuno was much better in this regard 👍
If I were in the market for new irons, those 225’s would be at the top.
However, for now, sticking with my gorgeous Honma TW747V’s.
Love them.
Japanese build the best forged irons, period!
Mizuno looks better to me, can’t wait to see them, thanks for the info 👍👍
Tried both today for 3 hours in a fitting. The Mizono knock spots off the P790 in almost every catergory. Best club Ive hit in my career. (12hc)
I wish I could say the same, my experience was the opposite
Great comparison video, really fancy a set off the Mizuno 225 irons.
Very interesting comparison. Tough choice but by a slight margin I'd vote Mizuno. I wonder how these would compare to the 921 Hot metal irons?
Hi Michael, I was under the impression that the 225 was a more similar size to the 770 than the 790. I would be grateful for your thoughts on this
Lofts more comparable to p790’s, looks probably fall between the 70’s and 90’s
Also the 225 and 790 have a more similar target customer. 223 is closer to the 770 I believe
Hi Mike, enjoyed the video. Both great irons, but the Mizuno for me. Better numbers throughout the test, apart from spin. No brainer. Cheers Chris
I have the 2019 P790's. I would stay with the P790's as Mizuno's have always been a bit "head heavy" for me.
The Mizuno is one stunning looking iron
Also have the new 790’s and love them…
Just ordered a set of the 225’s. What was weird is I was spinning the 225’s at 5500 and the p790’s at 4000 during my fitting (7 iron).
I have the MP20 HMB from new two years ago, but I wasn't totally happy with the custom-fitted shaft of KBS Tour 90 regular, I would have preferred the Modus 105R? They didn't use the DNA technology to find me the shafts which I was disappointed with, I would love to see how the MP20 vs. Pro225 would be. I would consider swapping my MP20 HMB for the Pro225 with the Modus 105R shafts if it proved to be better. I suspect the Pro225 will go further with the stronger lofts?
Definitely Mizuno - its looks and sounds a lot better.
I’ve had both sets. Mizuno feels FAR superior to the P790’s. Also, the P790 7 iron would have “flyer” shots (every 20 shots, one would travel 20 yards further than other great strikes).
I have the HMB that do just fine for me. The 225 look superb.
Still playing the HMB or did you go to 225?
@@BuffaloBarber24 still hmb!
Michael , the prices of top brand iron sets have sky rocketted. Its still the golfer behind any equipment . Question is if takomo abd newbrands can give an option at less than half the price whats wrong with it. The brands are not paying you or supporting you , your money is going in for others sponsorship . Why should you buy stuff like 500-600 bucks drivers and 1200 usd iron set !🤷♂️
could you provide some feedback? I am looking to switch from my Nike Covert 2.0 as a 15-20 handicapper. Would this be a wise investment or should I stick with a more forgiving club?
Very, very interesting results. I wish our host would throw out the one P790 miss. This being said, the 225 has better numbers. I have P790's. Will be trying 225's on my next visit to the shop.
Have to go for the P 790 as Mizuno just sucks as usual offering anything but 2 Irons of their entire Lineup for Lefties, it's a shame and noone knows why. Any other company can do it why not them ..
I haven’t checked, but is the Mizuno 225 Pro a completely forged club unlike the P790, which is just a forged face? Thx for the nice review.
Who in there right mind would pick the chinese Taylormades over the MIzunos ... The 225s are money if your looking for a hollow body iron . Been playing Mizunos for years and every shot I hit with my older but deadly MP15s amazes me about the Mizuno brand , its uncanny how good there irons are once you settle in with them ... Im 58 years old with a 2 handicap and as I get older , these hollow body irons are starting to appeal to me and these 225 irons might be my next set ... Cant wait to hit these at my local fitter when he gets em ...
Lots of Mizuno fan boys making comments...but I expect that from a Euro based comment section. The P790's are longer and more forgiving...but go on.
Hi Guys,
If you had to compare this to a PXG Gen 1 0311 in size, is there much difference because the mizuno look a little smaller and more compact?
Thanks so much
Ian
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I bought the Mizuno JPX Forged 921 irons last year, but the 225s are definitely on the radar.
Snap
Would absolutely love to see the comparison between the JPX 921 Forged irons and the 225s. Both are on my radar.
Yellow number on the Mizuno = B Weight head (for extra length shafts). Big miss here. First and only view of this channel.
I have the apex pro irons based on your review of them and they are amazing. Looks like tm and mizuno is trying to catch up to Callaway.
funny
Nah, I don’t think so. Had a fitting and the Callaway Apex irons weren’t even close!
@Michael Newton. Currently, I am gaming the 921 JPX Pros, would it make sense to upgrade to the new Mizuno Pro 225?
Mizuno has no lefty love. I stopped caring about Mizuno for a while because of it. Almost every other major manufacturer has lefty love except Mizuno.
I'm curious why you didn't address the obvious difference in dispersion? Mizuno looks much tighter.
Mizuno for sure.
I would like to see you out on a golf course actually hitting some approaches with these irons. Grass has a tendency to change things somewhat.
I have hit both and went with the Mizuno 225. Just seamed like the best all around club. Only problem was 8 to 10 weeks delivery!
You can carry a 7 iron 186? It doesn't even look like you're swinging hard. that's insane!
I thought the p790 was great performer, but sounded and felt terrible is the 225 better sounding more like a forge club.
Looking for new irons, mizuno looks a bit better but spin rates are slightly better with p790, I'm so confused 🤔
Are these irons, both the Taylormade and Mizuno, best for low handicappers or recommended for mid handicappers as well?
I’m narrowed down to these. But idk if I’m a fan of hollow head. Would they be more suspect to cracking?
Mizuno fan so i would almost definitely go for them but always like the look of the 790's from the first inception would have to test to make doubley sure.
these are only the best for low handicap players, would be nice to see a video now and again for the best irons for a mid to high handicap player, I'm thinking about changing mine in the new year, im a 18 handicap player and ive had the same irons for 6 years now, any recommendations, I've see some reviews of the sim 2 max irons that are very forgiving.
Mizuno all the way Looks , and numbers ...+/- distance control for a hollow body club was exellent Good video
Love your reviews Michael...Thanks...I think I would go with the Mizuno...I had in mind getting a set of the Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal till I seen this review....Now not sure till I test drive them...Could you do a comparison of these too...Mizuno 225 vs the JPX 921 Hot Metal....My nearest Golf Champion store is 125 miles away...Thanks....
Mizuno, they ironed out the quirks from the previous model and now have a outstanding iron for the mid HC
Sticking to my jpx919 forged and T Zoids thks. Mizuno wins for me. Merry Christmas Mike.
If you took out the second shot on the Taylor Made, I think the numbers would be practically identical.
2:56 wait what? You’re a big fan of the sound and feel of the p790? I couldn’t get past it.
Mizuno all day!! Tried P790 earlier this year and was quite dissapointed considering all the buzz around it.
MIZUNO - on the wish list for this year, upgrade to my JPX850 Pro forged
I would have expected better numbers from a new iron. These numbers would not warrant an upgrade in irons unless your irons are very old ?
Michael,
Which do you prefer feel wise, forgiveness wise and ball flight wise? Thank you!
I wish I like hallow body irons. I struggle with the feel. That crack feel in my hand. The mizuno looks great
Of course it isn't all about distance. How easy is it to shape the shot? I play Mizuno.