The Evo Speedgoat as to be the best ever shoe Hoka have done. I still have one pair and everytime I run in them is like I'm getting one step closer to their end 😢
I just found a new pair of EVO’s on poshmark and have run in them twice, really weird how Hoka didn’t want to keep making that shoe and improving on it.
Same here - they were the best. SG5 upper sucked and I was hoping they fixed this but sad to see that the midsole changed for the worse. I have 2 pairs of Mafate 4, they are good shoes and don't have the problems SG5 had.
Totally agree on the midsole. It’s like cardboard compared to previous models. I’ve had multiple pairs of SG 2,3,4 and 5’s and irrespective of other issues - especially with the uppers, they’ve always had an all-day, plush ride that set them apart from other trail shoes. Now it’s gone, so has their differentiation and relevance. Super disappointing as it feels like the upper is going to work better on this model. Having to rethink what to wear on long days now.
Great review! I recently purchased SG5 and really like them for daily trail runs. Don’t have experience with other SG but do have MS4 and love them. I would never purchase NORDA or SPEEDLAND because of ridiculous price! Yes I can get them but I would feel stupid to. Like cycling equipment, prices vary because of brands which I don’t get out of principle. A set of MAAP kit can cost about $600, no problem and thanks
Same here. Loved the 2,3,4. Was disappointed with upper and grip on the 5. Will skip the 6 also. Too bad, SG was the absolute go to trail shoe for so many!
@swiftcolin so had my first run in the SG6 today and WoW, I flew. I did 12miles in my 5's then jumped in my 6's for the last 6miles...they were like the lighter, race version 🫶👌🫶
I swore by the SG 2’s and 4’s for anything trail, 5 was a big disappointment all around and looks like the 6 is no better so I won’t even waste my time on them. Oddly the Zegama 2 seems to have swooped in to fill that void for me - really liking that one so far.
Bummer about the midsole. New upper with the SG4 midsole for the 7. Gonna have to find a new shoe now. The 5 midsole sucked compared to the 4. Hoka people want soft cush! By mile 13 in the Imogene pass run the bottom of my feet were killing me in the 5's.
@@swiftcolin je préfère les Caldera, surtout en fit avant pied, meme si elles sont un peu justes encore pour moi, les speed goat sont beaucoup trop étroites aux métatarses. Mais surtout, en terme d'adhérence elles ne sont vraiment pas top, malgré l'estampille "vibram". Non, vraiment, Hoka en trail, pas pour moi. j'hésite à me tourner vers Craft qui restent encore trop lourdes pour moi
I value your reviews. So disappointed to hear this about the SG6… the SG5 for rolling carriage trail was fine but the midsole seems to go flat after 75miles. Can’t get the SG4 anymore. The Mafate 4 has been great for me on technical trails. What do you turn to for a cushioned every day non technical trainer?
Right now I’m using my last two pairs of SG4’s, so I’m on the search for a new one. I just got the Brooks Caldera 7 but having to send them back because they run a little short, 10.5 usually fits me in every brand, but might try an 11 in the Caldera 7.
Agree, the midsole is trash. Super firm, definitely not that marshmallow feel that Hoka is known for. The tongue is still not long enough or padded enough. I did 30 miles on them and then returned them. I am now in the Mafate Speed 4. I have been wearing Speedgoats since version 1. The best versions were the 2, 3 and the Evo. Maybe Hoka will get it right on the 7.
I ran in SG 3 and 4 and swore I would run in Speedgoat forever. Then version 5 came out and Hoka ruined the cushion. It sounds as if version 6 is not even worth a try so have moved onto an entirely different brand. Hoka- bring back the cushions of Speedgoat 3 or 4 and I will come back in a heartbeat!
I've only put 20km into my SG6 and for me the midsole is very very stiff. I think the shape and vibe of the shoe has moved back towards the SG4 but let's see if the midsole softens at all.
@@swiftcolin I'm honestly really struggling to find the right shoe this season. Right now the best I have are the Mafate 4 but I can't fit my insoles in there and they are a bit thin width ways. I have 1 SG4 left unused still. Any recommendations? I just want a wideish cushioned grippy rockered trail shoe that can take technical terrain?
I'm honestly really struggling to find the right shoe this season. Right now the best I have are the Mafate 4 but I can't fit my insoles in there and they are a bit thin width ways. I have 1 SG4 left unused still. Any recommendations? I just want a wideish cushioned grippy rockered trail shoe that can take technical terrain?
I’d go with that last pair of SG4 for sure, I’ve also heard great things about the Nike Zegama 2 so far, just wish they were a little less expensive or I would try them.
@@chris.schmied Thanks for the recommendation. I've tried them on at the store and the stack height is pretty huge so I'm worried about technical alpine terrain in them.
@@Rainyfeels I will do a review on them soon. I use them for technical runs here in the alps. I find them very stable. But that’s for my style of running. The Speedgoat 5 was terrible for me on technical terrain.
@@chris.schmied Interesting, maybe I'll give it a try then? Any other favourites? I have fairly wide feet and have struggled a bunch - don't want 0 drops Altra etc.
Your point about wondering if you received a dud based on the midsole comments might be worth bringing to Hoka’s attention. Maybe send the shoe back for them to inspect? Based on your comments I’m not buying it despite being a huge speedgoat fan
The Speedgoat line is dead for me after the 5. I loved the 2 and the EVO, the 5 was an attempt to cheaply lowball the EVO, and was a miserable failure.
I am no longer a hoka customer. After 10 years of competitive running, and probably over 20+ pairs of specifically hoka shoes, they ruined their line up with the Challengers 7s being like rounded hard sketchers and the speedgoat 6s were an epic failure from wearing the lugs out in one backyard ultra and feeling sloppy almost immediately from the backs of the shoe being mis shaped, whyyyyy did they make this silly heel resting pop up area??? It looks like a reverse elf shoe.
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Take me back to the Speedgoat 4 and EVO Speedgoat days!
1000%!
The Evo Speedgoat as to be the best ever shoe Hoka have done.
I still have one pair and everytime I run in them is like I'm getting one step closer to their end 😢
I just found a new pair of EVO’s on poshmark and have run in them twice, really weird how Hoka didn’t want to keep making that shoe and improving on it.
@@swiftcolin 100%
Dificult to understand you right.
Its already their best shoe without much improvement on it.
Thanks for this review Colin!
Thanks for watching!
I’m glad you said all this, as I loved my SG 4, just can’t get hold of them anymore.
Same! Grabbed a couple pairs when the 5’s came out and found a pair of EVO’s on poshmark luckily
Same here - they were the best. SG5 upper sucked and I was hoping they fixed this but sad to see that the midsole changed for the worse. I have 2 pairs of Mafate 4, they are good shoes and don't have the problems SG5 had.
I bypassed the Speedgoat altogether and went straight for the Mafate Speed 4. Love it.
If I go with a Hoka trial show again, it will be the Mafate!
@@swiftcolin if they could shave off 25g it would be perfect. So comfortable with great midsole/grip
Totally agree on the midsole. It’s like cardboard compared to previous models. I’ve had multiple pairs of SG 2,3,4 and 5’s and irrespective of other issues - especially with the uppers, they’ve always had an all-day, plush ride that set them apart from other trail shoes. Now it’s gone, so has their differentiation and relevance. Super disappointing as it feels like the upper is going to work better on this model. Having to rethink what to wear on long days now.
Okay, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this! Definitely unfortunate, usually have to wait a couple years for a new model.
Great review! I recently purchased SG5 and really like them for daily trail runs. Don’t have experience with other SG but do have MS4 and love them. I would never purchase NORDA or SPEEDLAND because of ridiculous price! Yes I can get them but I would feel stupid to. Like cycling equipment, prices vary because of brands which I don’t get out of principle. A set of MAAP kit can cost about $600, no problem and thanks
Great points! Thanks for watching too
Same here. Loved the 2,3,4. Was disappointed with upper and grip on the 5. Will skip the 6 also. Too bad, SG was the absolute go to trail shoe for so many!
Agreed! Let’s hope the 7 is awesome
Great review. Think I'll skip this version
Don’t blame you lol
I had two pairs of 4's (wore them out) have two pairs of fives (pretty shredded now) getting the 6's soon
Let me know what you think of the 6’s
@swiftcolin so had my first run in the SG6 today and WoW, I flew. I did 12miles in my 5's then jumped in my 6's for the last 6miles...they were like the lighter, race version 🫶👌🫶
@MarkCrowe-kq6ce glad they’re working for you!
I swore by the SG 2’s and 4’s for anything trail, 5 was a big disappointment all around and looks like the 6 is no better so I won’t even waste my time on them. Oddly the Zegama 2 seems to have swooped in to fill that void for me - really liking that one so far.
Would love to try the Zegama 2!
@@swiftcolin I'll be curious what you think. To me they're worse in every way vs. the Zegama 1 (besides the Vibram), heavy and hot and less stable
Might have to wait for the price to come down, but I loved the zegama 1 too except for the traction.
Bummer about the midsole. New upper with the SG4 midsole for the 7. Gonna have to find a new shoe now. The 5 midsole sucked compared to the 4. Hoka people want soft cush! By mile 13 in the Imogene pass run the bottom of my feet were killing me in the 5's.
Agreed, thinking of trying the Brooks Caldera 7
Thank you for the review. How would you compare this to the Caldera 6?
Caldera 6 felt way better underfoot, softer and bouncier midsole for sure, but similar overall feel when it comes to fit and stack height.
@@swiftcolin je préfère les Caldera, surtout en fit avant pied, meme si elles sont un peu justes encore pour moi, les speed goat sont beaucoup trop étroites aux métatarses. Mais surtout, en terme d'adhérence elles ne sont vraiment pas top, malgré l'estampille "vibram". Non, vraiment, Hoka en trail, pas pour moi. j'hésite à me tourner vers Craft qui restent encore trop lourdes pour moi
There is a wide in the SG6. Sounds like you should try another 100km in those ;)
Haha maybe that would do the trick
I value your reviews. So disappointed to hear this about the SG6… the SG5 for rolling carriage trail was fine but the midsole seems to go flat after 75miles. Can’t get the SG4 anymore. The Mafate 4 has been great for me on technical trails. What do you turn to for a cushioned every day non technical trainer?
Right now I’m using my last two pairs of SG4’s, so I’m on the search for a new one. I just got the Brooks Caldera 7 but having to send them back because they run a little short, 10.5 usually fits me in every brand, but might try an 11 in the Caldera 7.
Agree, the midsole is trash. Super firm, definitely not that marshmallow feel that Hoka is known for. The tongue is still not long enough or padded enough. I did 30 miles on them and then returned them. I am now in the Mafate Speed 4. I have been wearing Speedgoats since version 1. The best versions were the 2, 3 and the Evo. Maybe Hoka will get it right on the 7.
Sure hope the 7 is awesome
I like the 5s except for the uppers. Seems I’ll look for something else after they are done.
They definitely improved the upper, but the midsole is boring
Seems like I'm going to by pass the SG6 buy I couple of 5's and wait for the 7's....
Probably a good call if you like the 5’s
I ran in SG 3 and 4 and swore I would run in Speedgoat forever. Then version 5 came out and Hoka ruined the cushion. It sounds as if version 6 is not even worth a try so have moved onto an entirely different brand. Hoka- bring back the cushions of Speedgoat 3 or 4 and I will come back in a heartbeat!
Agreed!
I've only put 20km into my SG6 and for me the midsole is very very stiff. I think the shape and vibe of the shoe has moved back towards the SG4 but let's see if the midsole softens at all.
They don’t feel much different after 100k but hopefully they soften up for you!
@@swiftcolin I'm honestly really struggling to find the right shoe this season. Right now the best I have are the Mafate 4 but I can't fit my insoles in there and they are a bit thin width ways. I have 1 SG4 left unused still. Any recommendations? I just want a wideish cushioned grippy rockered trail shoe that can take technical terrain?
Not sure if you’ve tried the North Face Vectiv Enduris 3, but they do pretty well in all those categories
I'm honestly really struggling to find the right shoe this season. Right now the best I have are the Mafate 4 but I can't fit my insoles in there and they are a bit thin width ways. I have 1 SG4 left unused still. Any recommendations? I just want a wideish cushioned grippy rockered trail shoe that can take technical terrain?
I’d go with that last pair of SG4 for sure, I’ve also heard great things about the Nike Zegama 2 so far, just wish they were a little less expensive or I would try them.
Try the Asics Trabuco Max 3. I love mine.
@@chris.schmied Thanks for the recommendation. I've tried them on at the store and the stack height is pretty huge so I'm worried about technical alpine terrain in them.
@@Rainyfeels I will do a review on them soon. I use them for technical runs here in the alps. I find them very stable. But that’s for my style of running. The Speedgoat 5 was terrible for me on technical terrain.
@@chris.schmied Interesting, maybe I'll give it a try then? Any other favourites? I have fairly wide feet and have struggled a bunch - don't want 0 drops Altra etc.
Your point about wondering if you received a dud based on the midsole comments might be worth bringing to Hoka’s attention. Maybe send the shoe back for them to inspect? Based on your comments I’m not buying it despite being a huge speedgoat fan
Might be worth checking out!
Thank you. What's your view on the stinson 7?
I’ve never tried the Stinson, looks like an interesting shoe though
@@swiftcolin yeah I heard great things would love to hear your opinion 🙌🏼🙌🏼🔥
D problem is that these companies try to b cool and make ass from recycled crap rather than improve performance n quality
The Speedgoat line is dead for me after the 5. I loved the 2 and the EVO, the 5 was an attempt to cheaply lowball the EVO, and was a miserable failure.
lol I see no lies
guess i will be stocking up on 5's
If you like the 5 it’s probably a good idea.
@@swiftcolin or switch to Mafates?
Way to shit on my parade. Just got a pair.
Haha hopefully they work for you!
Mine are sitting at home in my mailbox. Hopefully the wide version I ordered fits my feet.
I am no longer a hoka customer. After 10 years of competitive running, and probably over 20+ pairs of specifically hoka shoes, they ruined their line up with the Challengers 7s being like rounded hard sketchers and the speedgoat 6s were an epic failure from wearing the lugs out in one backyard ultra and feeling sloppy almost immediately from the backs of the shoe being mis shaped, whyyyyy did they make this silly heel resting pop up area??? It looks like a reverse elf shoe.
I am now officially only backing up Salomon. The ultra glides and aero glides are perfect and last over 2000km to a pair.
I was thinking of grabbing a pair of ultra glides too.
Disappointing to hear about the midsole. Everyone says the same thing. I love the 5s. Won't be buying the 6
Yea I was bummed, but I think they would work if you like firm midsoles.