There are rules for cars like this that are built to race. These chassis handle best as a tripod with weight supported by two rears and the guide. Smaller diameter tires also improve handling. So without rules, the fast guys would eliminate the front wheels and rear wheels would be even smaller. So to preserve some resemblance to an actual car, the rules specified that the car must have .5" diameter minimum front wheels and .720" Diameter rears. Clever racers mounted the front wheels flat on the chassis for lowest CG. This s similar to the way 1970s LeMans Prototypes like the GT40 and Porsche 917's used to fulfill the luggage space requirement in very creative ways. SO the rules were modified to specify a vertical position for the front wheels. Although very light aluminum disks with tiny o-ring tires were available, even lighter thin rubber disks were the response. and this car has those in place. But they do not function as wheel and don't look like much. Since the intent of the rules is to preserve is modicum of scale appearance, the latest reule require front wheel stickers, which these cars also have. Part of racing is building cars to maximize performance. Careful and creative reading of rules are part of the game. It's an interesting and valuable part of the sport sadly lost to those who just buy factory cars and race them in unmodified form.
These cars both use foam tires that were instantly fouled by dust picked from the track surface. I had assumed that Massimo had applied the "Track Honey" track treatment supplied with his OmniSlotBox. Properly applied that product keeps the tires clean as dust stays on the tack rather than collecting on tires. We run these cars on our Carrera Track and they are much faster and easier to drive than any of our plastic cars. Yes these cars are designed commercial raceways but they are great fun, even on a short Carrera track IF the surface is treated with Track Honey. It just take a tiny bit, leaving he track feeling slightly waxy not sticky to help call cars on all tire types run better. Any the track is ready any time without track or repeated tre cleaning. Here is a link to a video of the same cars sent to Massimo in action at the Slot Car Club house. ruclips.net/video/YQmfV8_bKm8/видео.html
Good acting on the slip Massimo ! I laughed very hard. Love the rear tail slide control on the first car and no de-slots.No magnet cars are a challenging experience to drive.Keep up the amazing video productions that you do.
Nice unboxing and test ride. Holy moly, what kind of front shoes built on those bodys.....lmao.....😅 I think this art of slotcar isn't easy to drive on any track, maybe hard to handle. Ty for present and share it with us 👋👍
You would need a different track layout for this kind of cars. The typical Carrera road course does not suit them too well. Instead of track honey try a litte suncream on the tires!
I have a lexan bodied womp car that's similar to those (but has four wheels 😉) It is fun to run once in a while but as everyone else has noted - best for commercial tracks. Looks like that one car has direct drive from the dual-shaft motor? Nice of Jim to send you those - and congrats on 6K!
Yeah the direct drive is interesting. It runs pretty smooth but I agree, I’m going to get these out to my local club track and give them a run. I’m also going to try treating my track surface a bit and see if I can get these to improve a bit. They’re a blast to drive
Those are awesome looking cars. I think you need to find a big flowing commercial track and let those cars run free. That Mazda with the direct drive is pretty interesting.👍
Yeah I agree, I’m going to take them to my club track to give them a go! The Mazda was interesting, never had a direct drive slot car until this point. Pretty impressed with it despite being limited on my layout.
A big club track with sweeper corners and loooong straights are where these kind of cars fly. I know my basic Slot-it cars are way faster than my carrera cars.............but my tracks not big enough for them. Also not so sure about foam tires on carrera track.
Yeah 100% I’m going to bring these to my club track to give them a go. Considering the twisty nature of my track they fared alright but yeah they need a big track to be let out of their cage so to speak. Cheers Brad! ✌🏼
Hi Mo. Lucky you are, but like Nico mentioned, those cars are not very suitable for your short Carrera Home-Track. So try them out at your club, with a longer ditance. ;-) Also, Nico mentioned, to smear sun-oil onto the foam-rubber tires. You could use body-lotion as well. This is being done over here for quite some time now. Foam rubber tires tend to harden out after times of running them. Therefore you need to smear body-lotion/sun-oil onto the tires. If you smear it on, wait a short time to let the lotion soak in properly. Than you will have the full grip again. I already mentioned this a few times in our community, but I guess it didn`t reach out to you yet in this case. I highly recomend foam-rubber tires on all of your 1/24`s. Foam rubber has the advantage of not leaving any dirt/dust like Silicons and PU`s do!!! Also you get more Kilometers out of them and don`t have to grind them like PU'S for instance. A fresh set of Foams will get up to 90 Kilometers of distance with one set!!! You defintly will not get that far with Silies and PU`s! And no track cleaning is necessary with them. Plus, Sillies do leave a very fine dust on your track that will cause problems with the rail-switches, because the dust will interfere the current over time. They won`t switch proper than! Greg Galub didn`t want to believe it, when I mentioned that, at Marty`s live-stream two weeks ago, but like all those so called experts, they sometimes need to learn in their old age and experience from time to time. Being stubborn and on a high socket, means being ignorant. Some folks do certain things for many, many years wrong, but will eventually have to learn new things. Although they think, they knaow it all already. A major failure, this is! One can still öearn if being old and wise. No Master ever felt from the sky yet ;-) He wanted me to proove that information and kind of like put me in a place, that I was talking bull. Well, if I let out any informations in the community, you can eat a broom, that those infos are reliable. Otherwise , I would not let those off. You may check yourself, too. Watch Chris - Digital Racing here on YT. He is german and talks about that in his last clip about tires, called: Chris - Digital Racing - Welcher Reifen? Carrera Reifen kaputt, weich? Mehr Grip PU Reifen Moosgummi Silikonreifen oder Gummi It is in german language, but you can turn on the undertitles. There you will also get thi hint for body-lotion on foams. ;-) If you want to get foam-rubber tires for 1/32, well, they are also available. Check Scaleauto foam-tires. They also have 1/24`s with rims, where the tires are glued on already and pre-grinded. Means, ready to race. But you need to consider the different versions of them, because a wood track would need a diferent form-mix, than a plastic track does. There are different tires like: Hard Comp, which are hard tires for the front-axxle. Pro Comp, which are soft and for tracks with very low grip and a lot of wear and tear. Pro Comp 2, which are medium high grip for plastc tracks (these you choose for your Carrera Cars) Pron Comp 3, which are for wood and plastc tracks with high grip, for long distnce races (you could choose these for the 1/24 and 1/32`s as well on your track, but I would use the Pro Comp2) Pro Comp 4, which are for wood tracks that have a very high grip-level I hope this was heplful, like I am always helping out, for free. But sooner, or later I will stop that, because no one really showed me the appreciation, that I can at least expect. There are a few, like Chris Freter, who picked this up, or Marty, but many are very ignorant, if I come up with certain issues. So, I will leave all those experts run into their dead ends, because it is senseless, to throw pearls in front of pigs, we have a saying over here. Nothing personal towards you, because I know, you are not that way. But some can see me soon from behind. As aleays, stay fresh Brother and stay save in the slots. 🙂
Yes treating the tires can help and and suntan lotions or Noxzema cream does help keep some of the foam rubber compounds soft. But a surface treatment to keep the tires form fouling on track is the key. These steel cars can be very fast on short tracks also as they can carry much more speed in the corners than plastic cars.
Hi Massimo, Could be wrong, but it looked like the white car had foam and the red did not. If I'm right - there is why the red seemed to hook up better. Regards, Jack
No, both cars use foam tires. The red cars is direct drive (DD). Because the DD 1:1 "gear" ratio is smooth but relatively low torque, less tire is needed to prevent lighting them up on acceleration or locking them when braking. On wood/copper tracks the DD cars have adequate traction the corners but are not competitive with anglewinder cars with wider tires and more punch. On a Carrera track the VERY strong magnets in the DD motor provides some magnet downforce and so on our tracks the DD cars holds its own due to being able to carry more speed through the corners. The DD cars takes some time to learn to drive as the technique is very different and te magnets limit drift than can make the car more predictable and forgiving. Neither car works well on a raw track. All tires work best, but especially foam, with a light application fo Track Honey.
Ciao Massimo ✌ Cool video! Please never give sun milk from the foam tires, this is completely pointless! There are extra means for this, e.g. from NSR or Parma Scaleauto ... they were specially developed for this but no sunscreen 😉.
Tires chemistry get complicated. What works depends on the foam rubber compound. We never use any tire additives on the tires supplied with these cars. @@MPSlotCar
Cars have four tires. These things only have two. Therefore, I will henceforth refer to them as motorcycles.
Lmao 🤣 I can’t argue with that brother! 🏍️
There are rules for cars like this that are built to race. These chassis handle best as a tripod with weight supported by two rears and the guide. Smaller diameter tires also improve handling. So without rules, the fast guys would eliminate the front wheels and rear wheels would be even smaller. So to preserve some resemblance to an actual car, the rules specified that the car must have .5" diameter minimum front wheels and .720" Diameter rears. Clever racers mounted the front wheels flat on the chassis for lowest CG. This s similar to the way 1970s LeMans Prototypes like the GT40 and Porsche 917's used to fulfill the luggage space requirement in very creative ways. SO the rules were modified to specify a vertical position for the front wheels. Although very light aluminum disks with tiny o-ring tires were available, even lighter thin rubber disks were the response. and this car has those in place. But they do not function as wheel and don't look like much. Since the intent of the rules is to preserve is modicum of scale appearance, the latest reule require front wheel stickers, which these cars also have. Part of racing is building cars to maximize performance. Careful and creative reading of rules are part of the game. It's an interesting and valuable part of the sport sadly lost to those who just buy factory cars and race them in unmodified form.
I did! @@MPSlotCar
These cars both use foam tires that were instantly fouled by dust picked from the track surface. I had assumed that Massimo had applied the "Track Honey" track treatment supplied with his OmniSlotBox. Properly applied that product keeps the tires clean as dust stays on the tack rather than collecting on tires. We run these cars on our Carrera Track and they are much faster and easier to drive than any of our plastic cars. Yes these cars are designed commercial raceways but they are great fun, even on a short Carrera track IF the surface is treated with Track Honey. It just take a tiny bit, leaving he track feeling slightly waxy not sticky to help call cars on all tire types run better. Any the track is ready any time without track or repeated tre cleaning. Here is a link to a video of the same cars sent to Massimo in action at the Slot Car Club house. ruclips.net/video/YQmfV8_bKm8/видео.html
Good acting on the slip Massimo ! I laughed very hard. Love the rear tail slide control on the first car and no de-slots.No magnet cars are a challenging experience to drive.Keep up the amazing video productions that you do.
Haha thank you! Glad you enjoyed it lol
Cheers, and thanks for the support! ✌🏼
😂😂😂😂 congrats on 6k bro
😅 lol
Thanks brother! Appreciate it!! ✌🏼😁
Nice unboxing and test ride.
Holy moly, what kind of front shoes built on those bodys.....lmao.....😅
I think this art of slotcar isn't easy to drive on any track, maybe hard to handle.
Ty for present and share it with us 👋👍
Congrats on 6K Massimo
Thank you so much! Still can’t believe it to be honest. Craziness! 😁
@@MPSlotCar yeah but you do it right and make it fun! Keep it up!
You would need a different track layout for this kind of cars. The typical Carrera road course does not suit them too well.
Instead of track honey try a litte suncream on the tires!
Yeah I’m going to bring these to the club track and see what they can do! Really? Suncream!? 🤔
@@MPSlotCar suncream on foam tires, yes !!!!!!
I have a lexan bodied womp car that's similar to those (but has four wheels 😉) It is fun to run once in a while but as everyone else has noted - best for commercial tracks. Looks like that one car has direct drive from the dual-shaft motor? Nice of Jim to send you those - and congrats on 6K!
Yeah the direct drive is interesting. It runs pretty smooth but I agree, I’m going to get these out to my local club track and give them a run. I’m also going to try treating my track surface a bit and see if I can get these to improve a bit. They’re a blast to drive
Mate , I have stop laughing 😂😂😂😂😂 is the knee ok flex cars they are fast awesome
lol glad you enjoyed it brother 😅 knees fine haha
Yeah these were interesting! Cheers ✌🏼
Those are awesome looking cars. I think you need to find a big flowing commercial track and let those cars run free.
That Mazda with the direct drive is pretty interesting.👍
Yeah I agree, I’m going to take them to my club track to give them a go!
The Mazda was interesting, never had a direct drive slot car until this point. Pretty impressed with it despite being limited on my layout.
It's not the size that is the problem is the dust on the tires. @@MPSlotCar
Here are the SAM E cars I sent MP running on a Carrera track. ruclips.net/video/YQmfV8_bKm8/видео.html
A big club track with sweeper corners and loooong straights are where these kind of cars fly.
I know my basic Slot-it cars are way faster than my carrera cars.............but my tracks not big enough for them.
Also not so sure about foam tires on carrera track.
Yeah 100% I’m going to bring these to my club track to give them a go. Considering the twisty nature of my track they fared alright but yeah they need a big track to be let out of their cage so to speak.
Cheers Brad! ✌🏼
Hi Mo. Lucky you are, but like Nico mentioned, those cars are not very suitable for your short Carrera Home-Track. So try them out at your club, with a longer ditance. ;-)
Also, Nico mentioned, to smear sun-oil onto the foam-rubber tires. You could use body-lotion as well. This is being done over here for quite some time now.
Foam rubber tires tend to harden out after times of running them. Therefore you need to smear body-lotion/sun-oil onto the tires.
If you smear it on, wait a short time to let the lotion soak in properly. Than you will have the full grip again.
I already mentioned this a few times in our community, but I guess it didn`t reach out to you yet in this case.
I highly recomend foam-rubber tires on all of your 1/24`s. Foam rubber has the advantage of not leaving any dirt/dust like Silicons and PU`s do!!!
Also you get more Kilometers out of them and don`t have to grind them like PU'S for instance.
A fresh set of Foams will get up to 90 Kilometers of distance with one set!!!
You defintly will not get that far with Silies and PU`s! And no track cleaning is necessary with them. Plus, Sillies do leave a very fine dust on your track that will cause problems with the rail-switches, because the dust will interfere the current over time. They won`t switch proper than!
Greg Galub didn`t want to believe it, when I mentioned that, at Marty`s live-stream two weeks ago, but like all those so called experts, they sometimes need to learn in their old age and experience from time to time. Being stubborn and on a high socket, means being ignorant. Some folks do certain things for many, many years wrong, but will eventually have to learn new things. Although they think, they knaow it all already. A major failure, this is! One can still öearn if being old and wise. No Master ever felt from the sky yet ;-)
He wanted me to proove that information and kind of like put me in a place, that I was talking bull. Well, if I let out any informations in the community, you can eat a broom, that those infos are reliable. Otherwise , I would not let those off. You may check yourself, too. Watch Chris - Digital Racing here on YT. He is german and talks about that in his last clip about tires, called:
Chris - Digital Racing - Welcher Reifen? Carrera Reifen kaputt, weich? Mehr Grip PU Reifen Moosgummi Silikonreifen oder Gummi
It is in german language, but you can turn on the undertitles. There you will also get thi hint for body-lotion on foams. ;-)
If you want to get foam-rubber tires for 1/32, well, they are also available.
Check Scaleauto foam-tires. They also have 1/24`s with rims, where the tires are glued on already and pre-grinded. Means, ready to race.
But you need to consider the different versions of them, because a wood track would need a diferent form-mix, than a plastic track does. There are different tires like:
Hard Comp, which are hard tires for the front-axxle.
Pro Comp, which are soft and for tracks with very low grip and a lot of wear and tear.
Pro Comp 2, which are medium high grip for plastc tracks (these you choose for your Carrera Cars)
Pron Comp 3, which are for wood and plastc tracks with high grip, for long distnce races (you could choose these for the 1/24 and 1/32`s as well on your track, but I would use the Pro Comp2)
Pro Comp 4, which are for wood tracks that have a very high grip-level
I hope this was heplful, like I am always helping out, for free. But sooner, or later I will stop that, because no one really showed me the appreciation, that I can at least expect.
There are a few, like Chris Freter, who picked this up, or Marty, but many are very ignorant, if I come up with certain issues.
So, I will leave all those experts run into their dead ends, because it is senseless, to throw pearls in front of pigs, we have a saying over here. Nothing personal towards you, because I know,
you are not that way. But some can see me soon from behind.
As aleays, stay fresh Brother and stay save in the slots. 🙂
Yes treating the tires can help and and suntan lotions or Noxzema cream does help keep some of the foam rubber compounds soft. But a surface treatment to keep the tires form fouling on track is the key. These steel cars can be very fast on short tracks also as they can carry much more speed in the corners than plastic cars.
These are what they use at my local wood track. Lots of fun when you can give it full beans!
Hi Trav! Yeah I’m going to get these out to my club track to give em a go!
@@MPSlotCar You're going to love them. Its crazy how fast they go. Check out this short ruclips.net/user/shortstw5RWJN6OQY?si=SqLusAl3vUeiEJFJ
The front tires are where? Looks like they are fake on the body or just my bad eyesight?Overall a nice review for those and thanks for the url🏁
Those front tyres are a fake, printed on the body.
No axle built in to set up small wheels in the front.
Hope I’m at the track when you are there to see how they run
Hi Massimo,
Could be wrong, but it looked like the white car had foam and the red did not.
If I'm right - there is why the red seemed to hook up better.
Regards,
Jack
No, both cars use foam tires. The red cars is direct drive (DD). Because the DD 1:1 "gear" ratio is smooth but relatively low torque, less tire is needed to prevent lighting them up on acceleration or locking them when braking. On wood/copper tracks the DD cars have adequate traction the corners but are not competitive with anglewinder cars with wider tires and more punch. On a Carrera track the VERY strong magnets in the DD motor provides some magnet downforce and so on our tracks the DD cars holds its own due to being able to carry more speed through the corners. The DD cars takes some time to learn to drive as the technique is very different and te magnets limit drift than can make the car more predictable and forgiving. Neither car works well on a raw track. All tires work best, but especially foam, with a light application fo Track Honey.
Nice to see something like these very interesting. I might have to check out his site for these. Just curious 😮
Yeah they’re great, the direct drive on the red and yellow car is interesting
Oh thank god you didn't mess up your hair. I was worried for a sec 😂
Congrats on 6k Brother. You deserve it!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Lmao 🤣 thanks for caring haha.
Thanks bro appreciate it! ✌🏼🏁
Great entrance!
😅
They are both nice cars.
Cheers Gary ✌🏼
I think those cars need a bigger faster track. Take them to Scale Racing Center Toronto. Shoot some video soon. HA HA I know you will
Haha yeah for sure I’ll bring them out to the track and see what they’re really capable of! Cheers!
Massimo what software for lap counting/times/speed do you use and is it iPad friendly? Thank you sir
I use the SmartRace App. Yeah it’s iPad friendly as well, great all around app!
@@MPSlotCar thanks for the info! Hopefully it will be pretty simple to set up. Like most things once we use it, it should get pretty easy…
What’s your brake and speed setting set at?
I was toggling between 2-4 sensitivity anything above 4 on my layout with these was too much lol
brake I had around 8-10.
@@MPSlotCar thanks for the info. I’m still back and forth on the braking . Trying to get that right realistic feel.
Ciao Massimo ✌ Cool video! Please never give sun milk from the foam tires, this is completely pointless! There are extra means for this, e.g. from NSR or Parma Scaleauto ... they were specially developed for this but no sunscreen 😉.
Ciao Hubert! Thanks brother.
Haha okay okay I won’t, I’ll look into what NSR and Scaleauto have to offer! Cheers brother! 🏁✌🏼
Tires chemistry get complicated. What works depends on the foam rubber compound. We never use any tire additives on the tires supplied with these cars. @@MPSlotCar
great video Massimo Try It at Ernies Bet it goes like stink
Thanks Shane, yeah I’ll bring them out to Ernie’s for sure!
Salut my friend super car . super video subscribe subscribe
Thank you bro! Cheers! ✌🏼🏁