Uhhhhhh how? Last I heard they were below 1/2 Pokédex being cut upon release of SwSh and they’re only bringing back 200 Pokémon for both DLC, not each one so we are now below 3/4 national dex. Still nothing about bringing back Mega Evolution either which seems like they’re dropping like a bad habit
@@psychosaurus1554 Remember when pokemon was 40$ for both main game and postgame? Now it's $90 for the complete package. (assuming you don't think SwSh's main game felt underwhelming or incomplete)
only Death They aren’t the worst because Team Skull isn’t the main antagonist team of Gen 7. The Aether Foundation is. They’re hooligans who were an obstacle along the way.
Team Yell isn't actually obsessed with Marnie. Her brother just told his gym trainers to pretend to be her fanbase, and to block the other competitors from completing the gym challenge so Spikemuth could be famous for being the home of the champion.
This is vaguely related to your point on how kids are much smarter than people think they are; I've seen several sources say kids like being treated as an adult because in a way its a sign of respect. A lot of people sit there and wonder why an angsty teenage phase even exists when people around them continue to treat them like babies regardless of their age. Its a big problem everywhere but Pokemon (at least currently) really suffers in this front with the general "easy story, easy gameplay" style that gives it the reputation as "baby's first rpg." Black and White was probably the closest the series has gotten to breaking this trope imo
replayed black and white and i can tell you that it isnt difficult because its designed well, but because they decreased the amount of ex you get and as such, level up slower
I would want to back up this claim, but my little brother, who is 6, still got lost in the game, simply because he didnt pay attention to the flag and countless questions to move forward. He would go off to another island and get stuck, ask me for help, and when I show him what to do, he does it again a couple days later.
Rocatex the exp curve is actually designed well. You get more exp the lower you are in level compared to your opponent. This means a few things. 1 it’s very hard to be over leveled.2 this discourages only using your starter like some people would. 3 if you catch a new mon or heck even breed one it is very easy to get them up to the level of your team ( one or two Audino at the area you are at story wise should do it). 4 level wise you are placed slightly below the level of a boss usually. This is optimal because you want the bosses to be stronger then the player but the player able to beat the boss with strategy and proper type matchups. For example knowing that hydreigon is very powerful but not all that fast and is a dark dragon type ( assuming you caught a deino you can probably make the connection) while under leveled slightly some options you have for taking it out ghestis hydreigon include but aren’t limited to using sawk ( fast and strong fighting type with ability sturdy so it can guarantee a hit) throh ( super bulky fighting type that can guarantee a crit with one of its signature moves) archeops uturn ( incredibly fast and powerful glass cannon of a fossil mon ( its first form has higher attack then some of the region’s final stage physical attackers) any of the region’s bugs terrakion meishao having a boldore use sandstorm then spamming potions healing it to full and it living because sturdy having emboar use superpower having samorot use megahorn have a cottenee use leech seed have it go first because prankster and then bring out a sturdy Pokémon and see the boldore strat. Realistically speaking you are most likely gonna have something for the occasion if you have a diverse team. Even if you are slightly underleveled you should be able to beat each battle with proper strategy. Even ghestis ace a pseudo legendary and one with a literal comp moveset can be beaten since sure it may one shot a lot of your team but it probably can’t outspeed and one shot the same amount ( chances are you will have something faster that can handle it since there are a lot of fast mons that have good moves to handle it).
That's actually an interesting comment. I just played through Shield and it was the quickest I've ever gone through a Pokemon game. I said to my husband 'I swear the games are getting easier' but he said it is jsut cause you are an adult now. But I replayed Soul Silver about half a year ago and I found it still harder than Shield!
@@eminemisthegoat2466 Agreed. I find Ultra Sun is difficult alone because of the SOS battles. I found in Shield I didn't even have to grind and pretty much all the Pokemon I caught I bread so they started at Level 1. Alone the fact that they removed the need for HM slaves in newer games makes them easier, as you basically got a free slot to cover more types. I stand by what I said, but I guess it is also difficult for someone who has never really played Pokemon to understand the complexity of some game mechanics.
No the easiest games by far was X/Y, as a person who’s played since HG/HS and has gotten all the other games. X/Y is by far the easiest, second easiest is the base sun and moon, and third easiest is SW/SH. You could say the original red and blue is the easiest but that requires a lot more work than it’s worth and might corrupt your save file soo... The ultra games aren’t hard at all, I don’t count ultra Nacozma was a challenge as that wasn’t meant to be BS, only hard part about the game.
The reason that tiny area between the two Lillie cutscenes exists at the beginning of the game is to give you a chance to save the game before you get your starter, in case you want to reset for its nature/gender or shiny hunt for it.
PowerRanger Blue they aren’t shiny locked, actually. I don’t blame you for thinking that since usually cutscene pokemon are but these ones aren’t, which is nice.
captaindog eh gen 7 is harder with exp share turned off while sword and shield is harder turned on. X and y is easiest of all of them though. On or off. I once did a run where the only way I could kill foes in x and y was recoil usually from struggle. It was just tedious. I got the exp I needed by getting money from super training then catching stuff. For the first gym I caught a bunch dunsparce then spammed spite for example.
the guy hair cuts in XY and the default hair for SM and USUM were literally the only normal hair styles for me, and now SWSH ain't got nothing for me... even the dlc has nothing...
omg yes i dont wanna wear stupid fucking tropical shit i live in florida i do that daily!!! i wanna wear cute shit from colder climates and stuff that are uncomfortable for me. so much of the clothes are so ugly like everythings a tank top or a t shirt. i do like how you can dye stuff but i feel like they took away from the designs with that in some cases. but taking off the hat is great
The black and white plot didn’t contradict itself, n was the one who had the idea to stop pokemon battling, ghetsis just used that idea for his gain, the bad guy wasn’t like “oooh here’s the objective truth” because he never said anything about it, it was literally n who wanted to stop battling but then was convinced that it was morally ok, ghetsis has no morals to speak of, he was just the antagonist.
and that's why i think that, just like bw2 would be incomplete without bw1, bw1 also would without bw2, not just cause they're smaller and more linear and story driven games, whereas bw2 let you explore a ton and do a ton of side stuff and post game, but also cause yeah, bw1's ending (although pretty freaking epic) did feel to me like kind of a spineless bailout to protect the franchise's image. so i'm really glad bw2 did a lot to fix that. bw1 is like this revolutionary event and bw2 shows you the aftermath, how the whole team plasma ordeal had influenced the people of unova and their stances. like with the 2 different factions, one following n and fighting for the good of the pokemon and the other following ghetsis and just being terrorists. when you meet n in the ruins of his castle, and then again in dragonspiral tower, he clearly tells you that he will continue to fight for a world without pokeballs, where pokemon and humans will be truly equal. he broke free of ghetsis' manipulation and can see the truth, but his ideals are still strong.
True. N has an arc, I think Ghetsis is in the game just for the players defeat a bad guy and get a rewarding victory, as after defeating N you keep reflecting on his point of view and doesn't feel like an actual victory.
@@seamonsterclub BW also made the gym leaders feel like they were responsible for stuff, at least to me. It was so often that i remember the gym leader going after plasma and not just sitting in their gym. That may just be me tho
@32rush BW and BW2 don't have complex stories, but they are well developed with interesting characters. Just because it isn't complex, doesn't mean it's not good.
32:12 "these are literal beings from space they can't just be in a single game and not be heard of again" Meanwhile Arceus, Palkia and Dialga who control TIME and SPACE which encompass the whole pokeworld are never mentioned again after gen 4
"Let me explain how to..." "Bitch! I've been catching Pokemon since before you were fucking programmed, don't tell me what to do!" "First you have to weaken it like This..." "I have 8 badges! I'm about to fight the champion, go away!"
@Castiel Arc7 i never even got to experience half of pokemon sun. I got to like the second or third town and couldn't fkn do it anymore. Literally every time i turned around heres another tutorial on some new dumbass feature we added for no reason at all. Or heres a tutorial on how to catch a pokemon when you're already in the third town? Like wtf was that?
@Castiel Arc7 i have a feeling those people never experienced ruby, sapphire and emerald in their prime. Those games should be the model of pokemon games. They are the holy grail lol. Im playing emerald right now and i love it just as much as i did when i was a kid, if not more.
They can have an easy mode for kids and put in a hard mode for all their fans that are adults its not fucking hard they're just making dumb excuses. Plus most of us played pokemon as kids and the og games were wayyy harder but we still beat them. They seem to forget that. We aren't retarded we don't need the games to be super easy. Most of their fans are adults now. Why tf can't they just add a hard mode but keep the easy mode for the retards? Smh
Anthony Salerno they had a hard mode in B2W2, but it was just higher level Pokemon iirc They won’t make a hard mode because they don’t know how to without making the game a grindfest. Which is still a stupid reason
@@LillWawrence They only had a hard mode in B2 after you beat the normal mode once already, W2 only had easy mode. Yeah you could get the challenge mode in W2 as well but only as a WiFi gift, which wasn't a possibility for me. Also in addition to levels they added held items to many Pokemon in the hard mode, sure that doesn't make the battles strategic masterpieces but it's still a lot better than normal mode. BW/B2W2 also had an anti-grinding XP-scaling system implemented, which means that the higher leveled Pokemon you encounter in hard mode actually makes it easier for you to get your Pokemon to higher levels during the story and considering these games added some of the latest evolving Pokemon ever, that's a very good thing.
I remember liking these games in my playthrough back then. It’s not as polished as other gens, but there were things that hooked me, two in particular. - The new Pokemon were particularly well designed this gen. There were a lot of hits, like Rowlet, Lycanroc, Ripombee, Mimikyu, Salandit, Turtonator, etc. Lots of very cool ones. - I liked the characters. Even if they were overexposed, Lillie’s story about growing past and overcoming her neglectful mother is truely motivating and engaging to me. I hardly ever get invested in Pokemon game stories, but Lillie’s story is a big exception. Also Team Skull is such a breath of fresh air because they weren’t world-conquering terrorists like Galactic or Flare, they were common crooks and vandals, and not always effective ones. People actually found it relatable how eccentric and presumably poor and how they talk about how bad they are when really they mostly blocked your path.
@@letsgetfluffy3138 team skull was a breath of fresh air. Team yell was just one too many words, *BORING, OBVIOUSLY NOT VILLAINS AND PLOT TWIST THAT WASN'T RLLY A PLOT TWIST*
I'm actually one of the people that felt an attachment to my party by Hall of Fame! when I saw all of my Pokemon shown off that I had used along the journey, I was really really happy. It may just be because I was in Middle School then, but Sun and Moon really felt like an adventure because of the Pokemon themselves. I find a big attachment to my Pokemon because I love the Pokemon, not because of what we did together.
My pokemon team(s) in Sun and Ultra Sun and Moon are by far some of my most favorite teams. I just wish there was maybe a little less hand holding and the game was harder. Other than that it was arguably my favorite pokemon game.
@@baronvonjo1929 I agree so much! There is so much good in gen 7 that gets overshadowed by the bad, Gen 7 will always be my favorite generation, and Alola will always be my favorite region!
In 2026 people will become nostalgic for it and Gen 7 will be considered a "Classic" Pokemon game instead of a Modern Pokemon game Alola really felt like an adventure unlike Kalos, Galar and Paldea which felt like generic tours And the music gives me Gen 4 vibes
The video was interesting because I love Sun and Moon and liked hearing someone else’s opinion on it, but when you asked “Did you feel connected to your team?”, my answer was a resounding YES. I have never felt more connected to a team than my beautiful, amazing Sun and Moon team, and I think I literally cried when they all appeared. I loved them so much that I have a hard time playing Pokemon games now unless I put just as much love into creating those teams because I end up wanting to just go back to said SM team, that’s how much I love it. And I think they’re a big reason as to why I love the game so much, though the region and characters (Team Skull especially) delighted me as well. God I love it so much, you have some good points but it was just so much fun.
@@DarkSidieous77 Yeah! I know it sounds kinda lame, I just loved them a lot. It was a Primarina, Alolan Raichu, Salazzle, Tsareena, Bewear, and Alolan Ninetales, and all of them were girls and named after a certain style of dance. Just thinking about them makes me smile. The whole game means a lot to me. I get why people might not like it, but a lot of the things they hated don’t bother me that much. I plan on replaying it at some point when it doesn’t feel as... necessary, so maybe I’ll understand more of the criticism then.
Dude, i couldn't agree with you more! I only recently played Moon for myself and i was honestly kinda shocked by the end by just how much I adored each of my team members.
honestly me too.the fact that they can do all sorts of things for you if you build up friendship such as live on 1hp or get a crit makes you feel very attached to them.
I really love these games despite their big flaws. These were my very first Pokemon games, and I was 15 when I started. I lived in a "Christian" family, so I had to play it behind my parent's backs. (They're fine with it now.) When I received my 3DS from a sister's friend (I was still 15), it came with Pokemon Moon. My parents quickly confiscated it, but my younger sister stole it from them and got me to play it. Eventually I was caught in the act and had to explain myself, so I told them that after finishing the game, I really came to like it and I wished to continue playing, so they let me, saying that I was old enough to judge what I considered to be good or bad for me, but for sneaking around, the game was confiscated for around six months. I got it back after I finished Ultra Sun. Since these were my first games, I had to learn all the types and their strengths/weaknesses. I had a genuinely hard time in my first playthrough simply due to a lack of experience and grinding! I got Sophocles's audio quiz wrong mainly because I had to play the game in silence before the quiz, totems were the hardest things ever (props to Totem Wishiwashi and Totem Lurantis for making 15 year old me rage), and until I played Pokemon X, didn't realise what the Ride Pokemon were for. It was fun! Edit: I even got my Dad to play this game! He had about the same reactions as I did, and my Mom made fun of the two of us for a while, but she was fine with it! Eventually, the original owner of that 3DS and game wanted them back, so I traded my Dad's team over to my Ultra Sun game, waiting for the return of Pokemon Trainer Darth Vader (Yes, he named himself Darth Vader and never changed his character's appearance). He got really attached to his Pokemon, especially his Pikachu. I hunted for a shiny Pikachu to give him for his playthrough, and after learning how to do so, he refused to evolve Pikachu! He also had a shiny Greninja (also my fault, but he loved it all the same!) The Pokémon that I saved for him were an Incenaroar named Dangit, a Midday Form Lycanroc named Marmaduke, a Dragonite named Elliot, Pharamosa named Skeeter, he named his Cosmog FruFru, a Klefki named Vinz Clortho, Lunala named Lunesta, several Dittos names Things 1-7, a Guzzlord named Cuisinart, and a shiny Raticate that he hunted himself with no special nickname.
Man your story is so wholesome. I do not know any people who started with pokemon moon and I started from pokemon emerald. Hearing about how you had to hide your game and eventually having your dad play the game as well is so cool. I'd say that your challenges playing in secret added the extra difficulty and made you more connected. I sort of was in a similar boat when I played pokemon white during middle school. My godfather, who would drive me to school every morning, actually drove me to his house first and I would get to play pokemon white for like half an hour before school. I did not really like pokemon sun and moon or ultra sun and ultra moon and the newest games sword and shield look unappealing to me. I hope I can get the same feeling playing Pokemon in the future, as it holds a very special place in my childhood.
Gotta disagree with you on 2 points: Team skull is amazing because the game finally acknowledges how pathetic evil team grunts are, and they played with that concept. Even Plumeria says they're idiots, but charming. 2. Buzzwole is amazing
Yeah I hated it when he said that they were pretty much the same as every other evil team, because they're clearly not. I wonder if he's even paying attention.
With team skull and team yell I am now tired of these not evil villain teams. They just exist to hide the twist villains which are far more boring especially after you are spoiled on their existence.
@@inconemay1441 I feel like it worked with team skull cause it was kinda new and some of their lines are really funny and charming. I feel like they tried to do the same thing with team yell. Tbh they were really annoying and boring tho plus the gym challenge with them wasn't really fun or interesting. At least in pokemon sun and moon, the team skull area was more fun and had some secrets.
@@inconemay1441 I disagree because Sun and Moon was actually the first time that the real villains turned out to be someone other than each generation's Team Whatever. I understand that they are kids games and the mechanic of the 'evil' team to provide an antagonist may be repetitive but it mostly works. Sun and Moon gave it a little twist, in that Team Skull were clearly not an international organisation bent on destroying the world, but really just a load of disenfranchised thugs. I personally did find them quite funny and endearing, and I came to really like Guzma by the end - plus the final battle against him was actually hard. The Aether Foundation may be a little boring but Lusamine and her obsession with the UBs is a somewhat interesting side plot, and I actually didn't immediately guess that the Aether Foundation would be the true bad guys, which is about as much of a plot twist as we could possibly hope for.
Nintendos mentaility of "just for kids" is severly outdated. Todays kids play mobile games, cod, fortnite, legos, roblox, fnaf, minecraft, and nintendo games. The only reason mario odyssey had a moving camera is when they realize kids can actaully comprehend using a second stick to move a camera as they been doing it for years in minecraft Its get worse becuase theese fans grow up and a good number dont stop playing their games
Nintendo no longer markets primarily to children, they learned that from the Wii U. Their model now is to create games that can be played by anyone, but include accessibility options for those that want them. Then, they market their games and their console to people in their twenties and thirties who'll either buy for themselves or buy to share with their children. But that doesn't even matter, because Nintendo only publishes Pokemon games, it's Game Freak that makes them. Game Freak's model is to minimize effort and maximize profit, and the easiest way to do that is to make games that are so trivially easy and offensively barebones, but sell them to children that haven't yet learned how to judge quality. The fact that pathetic adults on the internet are willing to defend 'til their dying breath what is essentially overpriced shovelware with a Pokémon logo slapped on it is just a bonus for them.
yeah Alfo really summed up how I feel in general about it, that's extremely accurate. Sword and Shield was the definition of phoning it in, it was like the bare minimum required to call something a Pokemon game. The modern Masuda-Ohmori era of game freak is about introducing disposable mechanics, and taking the player on a sanitised, unchallenging holiday where they get walked through a guided tour, and every possible side route or mystery is either orchestrated for later in the plot, or fenced off permanently. The only reason SwSh had less cutscenes than Sun and Moon is because they couldn't be bothered to make them. They've learned nothing, and if anything have gotten worse since their sudden realization that they can hack off parts of the pokedex and sell them back in chunks in order to retain player interest over a longer period and make extra money. At this point, play Pokemon fan games, or just make your own. You'll do a better job than they can.
@@PrismTheKid Yeah. The Pokémon series is in the same (if not worse) situation than the Sonic series at the moment. Like you said, the fans far outshine anything done by the actual developers. Unfortunately for Pokémon, Game Freak/The Pokémon Company can profit ridiculously on low quality titles, whereas Sonic Team/SEGA cannot just make a Forces quality game every year, so there will be improvement for Sonic, which cannot be said for Pokémon.
I remember my big Pokemon moment. Heart Gold, fighting against Lance. Both of us down to our last pokemon. My feraligater was one hit away, while his Charizard was half health. The Charizard's attack missed. I'll remember that forever. I'll never forget my heart pounding as I fought my damndest against a champion who I'd come to love and respect. I don't remember anything about Gen 6's elite four or champion. Nothing. I can't tell you a single Pokemon that Diantha had, nor can I tell you any of the elite four types. The battle was soulless. With Lance, I felt like I earned my champion title. With Diantha... well, nothing.
Funny thing about that. Gen 2 and the Gen 4 remakes are often criticized for having a wonky level curve but this part is where I will always say it worked out well. If you don't grind at any point of your run, you'll actually be under-leveled when you stand in front of the Indigo League. This makes for some pretty epic Elite 4 runs that can actually challenge you. And yes, Kanto isn't much of a problem with your champion team but MAN does Red make up for it. You gather 16 badges, you feel like you're on top of the world and the previous protagonist feeds you humble pie and kicks you off his mountain and back into the dirt. There's a reason he's one of the memetic badasses of the Pokemon games and it's not JUST Gen 1 pandering.
@@nousername191 eh...true mainly just red but even then...could have been done better...I've finally been starting to play the older games starting with yellow and...about halfway through the 8 gyms it's like later gym leaders like koga and sabrina there pokemon's levels suddenly spike up
I've been informed by a few people in the comments that the Exp. Share was not introduced in Generation 3 and was actually introduced in prior generations. I have to admit, as much of a lifelong superfan as I am this totally threw me for a loop and I was sure these people must be making stuff up but sure enough I looked it up and they were right, the Exp. Share was not first introduced in Generation 3! My bad! Also coming back and watching this video after over a year is crazy lmao it's edited so poorly and I sound so nervous/unconfident lool, glad people like it tho! :)
Yea, in gen 1 the exp share actually acts exactly like what you propose on this video. It splits the exp evenly among your party (so each Pokemon gets 1/6 for example). There were no hold items in gen 1 so you would "turn it off" by depositing it in your pc
Really cool that you actually came back to make the correction. You can definintely feel the improvement in style and delivery in later uploads but this is still a solid vid :)
I feel like when talking difficulty people tend to overlook 2 huge problems that started with X/Y. 1. Starters are inmensly overtuned, their stats even in worst case scenario are amazing at dealing with every milestone in the game and they usually have a huge movepool to complement them. If you go back to older games, the starters served as a covert way to choose difficulty Charmander gets absolutely shit on by most of the region, while Bulbasaur only starts to struggle towards the end and Squirtle jus kinda curbstomps the whole region given enough TMs. 2. The game throws way too much money and items at you. It expects you to buy clothing in every city and it supplies you with every item you will ever need so you can.
I have over a million Pokedollars in my ultra moon cartridge even though I barely ever touched it since I finished the main game and never grinded or rebattled the elite 4, I didn't try whatsoever.... And I have a million dollars. I just wish I could transfer that all to my AS save file, because I actually care about that.
i dont think your first point is fair. Since you could easily catch mon to help out with your starter's weakness early in the game. And lets say if it your point did fly thats unfair to any kid who had no idea about the rest of the game and just picked charmander cause they thought it looked cool EDIT: Now that i think about the starters in gen 7 dont have the best of stats since all 3 are really slow. cinderace intelleon and decidueye dont have good movepools too. you could easily make a case for most starters having better movepools then the gen 8 one
Overtuned starters are because they don't want another gen5 situation where nobody used the starters becuase they are mediocre in story mode and trash in competitive (with one hard to obtain exception). The starters are part of a generation/region's representatives (alongside box legends and such) so it sticks out more.
@@kirin1230 you can always buy items in USUM that sell very expensive in ORAS pokemarts and trade yourself pokemon holding them, but at that point going through all that effort just to get 1,000,000 pokedollars on AS you may as well just grind for money on that game directly or even hack it in using pokehex or other hacking tools... not like anyone will care nowadays that you're hacking 3ds saves in a few years these games will probably lose their online like the DS ones did anyways and that'll close the era of "online battles for free without monthly fee" forever
A lot of those didn't really bother me until Pokemon Sword and Shield. They seemed way too easy, linear, hand-holding, way too much experience with experience share, etc. Your comment near the end was spot-on.
Yeah. I’m three minutes in and I don’t exactly want to finish it because I already know. What I have found is Sun, Moon, Sword and Shield and basically reskins of XY. Get starter, learn about special gimmick, beat gyms, defeat bad guy and win pokemon league. XY was revolutionary with Mega Evolution, but it was thrown away almost immediately with the hand-holding S/M Sw/Sh.
I actually like that it tells you what is super effective because of how many Pokémon there are. People complain about there being too many Pokémon and this helps to not need to memorize every type.
You might aswell make it an auto battle game where it picks your moves for you if you’re going to take out the single thing you have to think about. Just make it so when you see a trainer. The screen goes black, then comes back and tells you who the winner is.
Honestly, i pre-ordered Pokemon Moon when it came out and to this day I never finished it, the handholding and the cut scenes destroyed the game for me
I got all the way up to Poni Island and just stopped playing because I was bored to tears. I just wish I didn't transfer all my gen 6 pokes up to gen 7 because I had far more fun with gen 6.
I really really liked Sun on my first playthrough, but its impossible to replay. I still think it deserves praise for that first playthrough. However it gets really boring in the middle when you know what happens in the story and nothing is new. I really like at least 2/3 of the pokemon, the region is dope, i like the story, the characters are at least ok, and some of the gimmicks were fun. My main problems with sun and moon is that they are a slog to replay and some minor stuff. But those things really effect it. Also gen 5 is awesome shut up shut up shut up Edit: i super disagree with your opinions on ultra beasts, megas, and the music. The design work has never been the problem in pokemon. If you dont like them its a personal issue, and while im not saying you should like them (though i do think that haha) you shouldnt lump them in with actual criticisms. Thats definitely the most flimsy argument you can make against anything, really.
Haven't watched the video all the way through yet but this is basically how I felt. I really loved the game the first time through, but playing through ultra sun just a year later was dreadful. The best part of that game, the Rainbow Rocket episode, is obviously only after the main game. So if you want to play that, you have to slog through the main game. I just wish they could balance out the story and exploration better. SwSh was somehow worse on both fronts. I feel like I haven't really enjoyed a Pokemon game since gen 5, outside of that initial playthrough of SM.
Omar Elzant Everytime I replay a game isn’t because I want to experience the plot again. A lot of the time it’s because the gameplay is well done or in Pokémon’s case, it’s because I want to play through the game with a new team, restrictions like nuzlockes, and whatnot. In the case of Dark Souls, it would be to try to beat the game with a faster time, see how I’ve improved, or experience certain bosses again. The point is, replayability is very important to some games and if Gamefreak doesn’t get that, then they are even more out of touch with their fanbase then I thought possible.
Omar Elzant Yeah I agree with Truthlearning here, replaying old Pokémon games is half the fun! I’m not angry that’s it gone, I did love Sun and Sword (on first play-throughs of course) but it was a huge part of the first few generations, and it makes the increase in price to $60 feel a bit high since I’ll be getting less playtime out of the game than, for instance, Sapphire, which I’ve replayed dozens of times to try new teams and challenges. And Dark Souls is actually also often replayed I believe. I don’t play it, but my brother has done multiple play-throughs to use different classes, weapons, and I think to get a different ending in dark souls 3 (I may be wrong on that).
As some one that's a fan of rpgs I'm used to a lot of cut scenes, but my god was this a struggle to get through. The gameplay isn't rewarding for getting through all of that. This is the only Pokemon game I've never replayed twice. Black and White had a much better story that doesn't clash with the gameplay, not to mention much more memorable characters.
I can safely say that at this point, I have beaten Black and White at least a dozen times, plus probably 4-5 times for Black and White 2. But for Sun and Moon and Sword and Shield, honestly I felt bored just watching a let's play of the game, just this felt tedious and I still had someone talking and commenting to maybe make it less boring, but I just couldn't. These games are too handholdy and cutscene heavy. Gen 6, that's something I could definitely replay a couple of times, but gen 7 and 8 ? You'd have to force me
I hard disagree with you about the “much better characters part” N and arguably Ghietsis were the only remotely good characters of Gen 5 and even then, I find their popularity in the fanbase overrated. Gen 7 has multiple memorable characters, including a professor who actually has far more than a 1-dimensional personality, a villian who’s arguably more evil than Ghietsis while as the first female villain we get, and a female protag who’s the best written female Pokémon’s given us thus far.
@@animetechnoblade1009 I'd have to say that both Ghetsis and Lusamin are pretty one dimensional characters, however Ghetsis in terms of being the villain was much more thought out. Both have some aspects of child abuse involved, however you feel a much bigger impact of that between N and Ghetsis. Maybe it's not that gen 5 had more memorable characters per say, but they definitely had more characters that give a sense of world building. Lots of the characters feel like their own person with their own goals and don't feel like the protagonist has to be around for them to grow, but in gen 7 the few great characters almost have nothing going on outside of the protagonist. For example the gym leaders in gen 7 has no use outside of just getting their badge, but in gen 5 gym leaders felt like part of the world because they were more than just leaders and even showed up at the end. I won't say you are wrong since most of this is just opinion, but there's just something that makes me feel like the devs put more care into the overall world, story, and characters in BW/BW2. Sadly gen 7 was too slow to get to the point and constant interruption of progression is also a factor on how your experience goes.
Keeys Seeing your response, I can respect your thoughts on some stuff while still disagreeing on other parts I don’t have time to explain it in depth but I have seen well written posts that explain Lusamines character and why she is a phenomenal Pokémon villian who was arguably even worse than Ghetsis in evil (partly because of how they treated their children). The difference is that Ghetsis only lied to N; Lusamine mentally abused Lillie and Gladion, and we see this demonstrated by Lillie mentioning one time to the player about how surprised she is that we can dress and take care of ourselves, implying a much deeper level of abuse behind closed doors. If you ask me, I felt more for Lillie and Lusamines complex mother-daughter relationship than N and Ghetsis. But that’s just me. If you prefer the former there’s nothing wrong with that either. I also have to disagree that not every great character in Gen 7 had to rely on the protagonist being around them to display how great they were. Kukui is a great example of this. Unlike the typical professor who just hands off a dex and tells you to scram, Kukui actually engages himself to you throughout the story and has a big role. He even becomes the final hurdle for you to cross in the first S/M games, being the one who directly witnessed your growth. Instead of being the passive 1-dimensional professor, he’s more of a mentor and father figure for the characters. I do agree however that most of the trial captains didn’t have much to their characters besides being the ones to give you your Z-crystals. I won’t deny that. That’s actually why im glad the anime scrapped them of their rank so they could become actual characters.
Pkmn Gens 1 to 6: do you want to play in Set or Shift mode? Pkmn Gen 7 onwards: you will play with type advantage markers on there's a reason why there's an Options menu, GameFreak!
@@jgr7487 its a legit question. I haven't played the older games in forever. I remember them being in the settings menu but I don't remember what they do. Can you remind me bro lol
@@hatchell18 shift: announces that the opponent will change their pkmn, allowing you to change together. set: you never know when the opponent will change their battling pkmn
Team Skull is the first of the, "evil team that's barely evil" trope. So I'm gonna have to disagree with you when you say Team Skull is like most other teams cuz it's really not. Their a joke and they know they are. Plumeria calls the grunts idiots. Also when you say Gladion's theme doesn't fit him. All your other points are very good tho. I wish for lack of roadblocks and handholding in future games but Gamefreak gets lazier with every installment so oof.
yeah what an unbelievably dumb thing to say lmao, i always feel like im incapable of being surprised by the stupidity of british “people” but they always find a way. team skull’s whole thing is that they’re kids growing up in poverty/with abusive parents who band together to find strength and the game shows you this without telling you this but apparently the slightest subtleties in storytelling go over the head of the anglo barbarian species
rotom dex to me kinda felt like i actually had another person following me on my journey like ash had in the anime i found myself reading everything he said and appreciating that he was there with me commenting on what was happening
I can say the same about Red/Blue... it's probably just a matter of what kind of Pokemon games you like and are used to, but I definitely prefer the modern era. So no, not a based opinion. Just yours.
I’ve played Persona 5 so I know what it’s like to go through tons and tons of cutscenes at a time, but I still hate Pokemon cutscenes and I think I know why, they just simply aren’t good
Persona 5’s story is great and its characters are lovable, it makes sense to have a ton of cutscenes to develop it. Pokémon games really don’t have that good of a story to warrant long cutscenes aside from MAYBE Gen 5
Generally bc I found the story of Sun and Moon to be good, the cutscenes were much more tolerable for me, compared to say when I played gen 2 and 4, they were more sloggish
Howdy there. I came here after watching your Smash Ultimate video. As someone who holds this game in high regards I can respect your views and even agree with a few of them. The difficulty was an issue until USUM (which is I game I don't like) but in general Pokemon should offer some kind of difficulty option. The type advantage move-thingy actually only shows up after you've fought the opposing Pokemon's species at least once. The type advantage change is useful for competitive as it does reduce stupid mistakes you shouldn't make and even allows mistakes to happen because of ground moves vs levitate Pokemon. Although the exp share is pretty powerful I never felt it took anything away from the game. I treat Pokemon games pretty casually so I didn't mind and on the contrary I felt my Sun playthrough team was on of the teams I liked using the most mainly because Alola's roster is great. I can actually remember all their names off the top of my head because I liked the team so much. The cutscenes are no doubt a problem. Pretty much everyone agrees a skip or fast forward button would have been nice and SwSh did actually add it for the 5 cutscenes you could use it on (hey it's a start). Rotom dex I will admit was also a pretty bad feature but I didn't hate it. At least he's slient (unlike in the anime) and in USUM they actually made it worse as well. Generally that's all I can respond with. I get the game isn't perfect (I know it isn't) and it has some bad elements like Sophocles' trial whch I always disliked but generally I enjoy the games. I prefer them to games like All the Hoenn region games, XY and possibly even DP. For your first video it's good and hey they even changed somethings in SwSh you didn't like such as the trials and the bad guys always being under the "team" branding. It was an enjoyable video, and I gave you a like. Sincerely a Gen 7 diehard.
I genuinely LOVE playing Moon, so this video kinda made me sad, especially looking through the comments. I didn't realize how many people hated it, and since I'm not a die-hard Pokemon fan and just play it casually, I wouldn't see it from their perspectives. I did agree that most of the cutscenes were too much but at the same time, the more cutscenes with my husband, the better. There weren't too many of those :(
Dakota O'Brien I also thought they’re we’re too many cutscenes but I thought they were well written and I really liked the characters so they didn’t bother me
I really wish gamefreak would stop with the blank silent protagonist. Everytime I saw Gladion I legitimately felt he should have been the play character. Altering your type null with held items would be a solid way to replace starters.
How can anyon enjoy the cut scenes, they take forever to skip, and take away more content of the game to explore. I hate this games progression so much, and replayability is a pain in the ass to relive the fucking tutorials.
@@vandagylon2885 I don't remember it going against anything. N wasn't contradicting himself, he learned that he was in the wrong and set off to contemplate on the ideals he was being brainwashed to believe his entire life. He believed that the segregation of Pokémon and humans was for the best, being completely oblivious to Pokémon not wanting that themselves. It hit him all at once when the player and their own ideals overpowerd his, presenting itself as truth. Nothing about the ending contradicted the story.
@@TheAbsol7448 dude "the player and his own *ideals* presenting themselves as *truth* " no way that was unintentional lol. beautifully written I can tell you love the BW story just from reading that. personally I loved BW much more than BW2 (which is not to say that I didn't lobe BW2), but the original BW just hit me incredibly. BW2 is definitely faring better compared to BW than USUM fares compared to SM if you get what I mean. way more changes
@@TrigramThunder That's why I love Unova. Partly why B2W2 is so much better than USUM is that it's a sequel, and I've heard USUM kinda ruins any decency the character roster had. Also, yeah. That was completely intentional, but it fits!
I'd say that's why I loved the story so much. Team Plasma was a jab at organizations like PETA, where they say they're for animals on the surface, meanwhile doing everything to contradict that behind the scenes. How ironic that PETA tried to get back at Game Freak with a parody flash game with 10x the brutality of what it's parody-ing. All the while N is treated as a false messiah in this campaign only to find out that he was just a pawn. Team Rocket, Magma, Aqua, and Galactic might want to rule the world but that's hard to get behind when there really is no reason for it. I truly despised Team Plasma because they seemed logical, had an actual plan that made sense, and were a direct threat to everything pokémon was about. Ghetsis is a cunning and manipulative tyrant, and is quite possibly the best antagonist from the series.
I liked how they did the quiz in the Kalos Electric type gym. If you answer correctly, you may proceed uninterrupted. But if you fail a question, you get "punished" with a battle (which obviously means more experience and money). The trainers even reference that by wondering if you just answered incorrectly to battle them.
I think that's just a repeat of Blaine's Gym from Gen 1, though. I know I would always answer the question right and then go ahead and fight the trainers anyway.
I believe the brief moment of control you get at the start of the game is this weird compromise to let you soft reset for a starter without breaking up the later cutscenes. Why they don't put it closer to the selection is beyond me, but that's almost certainly why it's there.
@@Soniman001 My issue isn't cutscenes, but it just seemed like they never had anything important to say, and were only there to say "Over here, dipshit." The water trial (which I think was mentioned in the video) is a good example of that.
Soniman001 I like cutscenes in RPG’s but in Gen 7 it didn’t really impress me. Yeah the graphics are better than anything prior to the Switch games (which isn’t saying much) but I didn’t feel moved with Gen 7’s cut scenes like I felt with all 4 of the Gen 6 games. Gen 7 is my “battle and breeding and shiny hunting game) and my copies of ORAS/XY are my fun “replay” games. AZ’s story arc with Floette was so sad and sweet. Zinnia’s story arc in the Delta Episode has way more meaning than the Rainbow Rocket Episode. Bonus points for representation in Zinnia’s character being possibly bisexual.
I never liked the "tell you the type matchup" feature ever since it was revealed E3 2016. The whole point of RPGs is to use your brain to some extent. Critics who praise an RPG by basically not being an RPG is absurd to me. RPGs have this amazing compromise where someone who doesn't want to strategize alot can just over level and blast right through anyway, and Pokemon is no different. Even if they wanted to include the "tell you the type matchup" anyway, why can't we at least toggle it off?
i know right? what kind of person plays pokemon and doesn't remember type matchups? we have only 18 types and some of those are pretty uncommon to find, and not even all of the possible weaknesses/resistances/immunities combinations are even on any actual pokemon, barely more than half
It really bothers me how you keep saying “Nintendo and GameFreak” as if Nintendo co-worked on these games. Nintendo has literally no involvement on these games or the decisions GameFreak makes, they just publish the games...
Nintendo has a huuuuge part in it. If you think Nintendo leaves publishers alone (even first party ones) you're mistaken. Ask Sakurai, he jokes all the time that Nintendo is breathing down his neck. GameFreak may have had some more leeway in gen 1 but today it's very much dictated by what Nintendo wants from the series.
@@dxqx3794 Nintendo always puts effort in their first party games, just look at BOTW/Super Mario Odyssey. Xenoblade is made by a second party company and still the games are amazing. Just compare Xenoblade 2 with Sword and Shield. The problem here is Gamefreak.
...I'm so mad right now. Not because of the hot take, no. But because now I know why I got absolutely MURDERED on Poni Island. I hadnt played since Diamond, I didnt know the XP share did spread teamwide.. I was taking my time and grinding each one individually. Wow I hate that.
I think people like the idea of the trials, being more like an adventure in the world than just battling more trainers. They were all dissappinting though. The appeal of team skull is how campy and goofy they are, personally i wish they were more than a red herring for the obviously evil aether foundation though
me personally, one change I've always hated was fishing. In at least gen 1 and 2, you just go up to the water and use the fishing rod you want, then wait, and then you have a chance for a bite. However, when I first played pokemon y, you now have to wait for the bite and then click the button. As nitpicky as it may sound, it gets REALLY annoying when you're fishing for any reason (fishing repeatedly is how I got a shiny basculin once) having to constantly wait for the bite. sometimes, you get a bite and don't have enough time to react. Also if I'm being honest, the linearity destroys the adventurous feeling of the pokemon games. Let's look back to Red and Blue. There was a lot of ways to screw around with the way you do things. For example, you can beat Team Rocket out of Silph Co. as soon as you can get there (last I checked), you can either go beat Erika in Celadon City or go for the thing in Pokemon Tower, once you pass about Cerulean City, the game becomes much more open, and so many ways to explore. Now let's look to sun and moon. is there anything like that? Hell, I've beaten pokemon Y and I can't remember many ways to explore. Its just not adventurous anymore. Pokemon Y was fun, but Pokemon Moon, I couldn't beat. Not because of difficulty, but because it was so unenjoyable. The biggest flaw for me though, and this may sound petty, but believe me, this gets really annoying, the HP bar drains so slowly. I remember in Y and Omega Ruby, the HP bars drain pretty quickly. I've seen in early games where a pokemon got hit hard and the HP bar drained really quick. In Moon, the HP bar drains very, very slowly, and it makes grinding a pain. There's no reason for it to feel so laggy.
That’s why, in my opinion, red and blue / fire red and leaf green are the most replayable games in the series and why I find myself constantly coming back to them. After going through rock tunnel, pretty much all of the game opens up for you to tackle in any particular order you want. No other Pokémon game does this and it really makes me sad that this kind of world design won’t ever come back in favor for linear story telling. Red and blue didn’t have a full-fledged story, other then stop team rocket from being assholes and become the champion, and somehow it feels more compelling compared to most other main series plots.
@@jamesflanagan6261 Johto and Hoenn also have a similar amount of an open world. I'd say Johto is less linear compared to Kanto. In Kanto there are no locations or cities that don't have either a gym, or team rocket. Johto has a lot of random, seemingly pointless side quests which give you freedom to make your own story.
Cookie yeah but can you do your gyms in the order of 2 6 7 3 4 5 1 8 in jhoto? You can skip brock do misty so you can use cut head into rock tunnel after the boat do the rocket hideout and then rescue fuiji go get surf beat koga to use surf beat blaine do everything before the 8th gym before brock one shot his team and then challenge giovani’s gym. Leaf green fire red have way less limits caused by hms. ( meanwhile the jhoto games forces you to have a cut slave in kanto)
Sun/Moon are some of my least favorite in the franchise how ever I MAJORLY disagree with your points on the exp share and telling me what moves are super effective. I find swapping pokemon constantly for exp to be extremely annoying and loved the exp share. Nor do I think difficulty should be tied to remembering every type of every pokemon. There's a ton of pokemon and some dual typings can be easily forgotten. The problem is not the exp share, the problem is that the games are intentionally made easy regardless. They could make the games more difficult with the new exp share easily, that's just not what they want to do. What my main problem with sun/moon is is that THE GAME NEVER LEAVES ME ALONE. It does not feel like an adventure, it feels like a sight seeing tour with my friends. This sucks so much fun out of the game. Walk into a new route, cutscene, game yells at you to go 50 feet down a linear path with nothing to explore, game then interrupts you at the end of the path with ANOTHER cutscene about some insignificant shit that did not need to exist. Rise and repeat.
I think he agrees with you on the EXP share, which is why he mentioned that he thinks it should give you 50% xp per battle to one Pokemon not in battle, or 25% for two Pokemon for 16.6% for 3 Pokemon. As it is it gives you about 250% xp per battle which becomes a case of the cure being worse than the disease. Personally I agree with him on telling you what move is supereffective is bad, I think it's fun for beginners to progress and learn all about the different type matchups naturally over a long playthrough, and it's rewarding for veterans to be able to play at a higher level. I agree with you on your last paragraph, even Black/White and their sequels which were incredibly linear still felt like an adventure because you were free to go where you want and what interruptions they were had interesting dialogue and a compelling narrative.
JarekTheGamingDragon The type chart and the types of each Pokémon is one of the main difficulty barriers that you’re supposed to overcome in these ganes. When I play a Pokémon game for the first time and I find Pokémon I’ve never seen before, it’s fun to guess their types try out different types of attacks to test their effectiveness. Of course I don’t get that feeling anymore since I’ve played the series so much to where I pretty much know every Pokémon’s types and the full type chart, but it’s still a feeling that isn’t there in SM no matter when you play it
All these issues are easily fixed. Just give us the fucking option to skip dialogue or cutscense and give us a hard mode! Idk why gamefreak is so stubborn its not hard to add that. Like fuck they don't pay attention at all to what fans want it's bullshit
@@IceBlueLugia Actually the system in SM/USUM is such that you only know the type effectiveness for Pokemon you've met before. Granted, if you've played enough for the type chart to be ingrained to your brain like me that can easily go unnoticed since we already know them. It's also funny to get "lied" to by the game telling you a Ground-type move is super effective on a Poison or Electric type Pokemon even when the Pokemon has Levitate
I swear to God when I first played moon I was in school with my friend and he was rushing me to make a little progress so I could battle him, the whole day it was nothing but cutscenes and tutorials and cutscenes I almost snapped my ds in half
Honestly I can relate to this, I don't play pokemon pvp but there were times I got insanely frustrated with how many cutscenes there are in a row sometimes
"charizard has had enough of the spotlight" - gamefreak, nope we need to make him the next region's champion's ace. - everyone else, why? wouldn't it make more sense to give him an ace of that region - gamefreak, nope - everyone else, well okay then,
@@acerbusthedarkenvtuber5684 I think that's why it's not liked as much It's because the anime was so bad during that time that it rubbed offed on the game And also the game(s) itself felt kinda meh Especially when they hyped the fusion between the dragons and just kind agave us a Lame Hybrid mix of the 2/3 dragons
I had the exact same reaction. I can't take seriously the arguments of people who bash gen 5 yet claim it's one "everyone likes." Over time some more people have grown fond of it, but it's still one of, if not the most hated to this day. At least SwSh had people rallying behind it and defending it to the death. I also don't get the logic behind the "bad" anime influencing peoples' opinions of the game. The XY anime was great but I don't see anyone using that as a reason to tout the games as fantastic. Why is it that the anime's quality only influences what people think about gen 5 and not the other gens?
Alolan forms are bad and we should've just gotten all new pokemon same with galarian forms No new forms, or gimmicks please please GameFreak just give me a pokemon game that just has new pokemon like gen 1-5. No gimmick just pokemon not ever design was a winner but most of them we're someone's favorite pokemon.
@@danielpruitt8550 I totally disagree with you and I'm personally offended. We get new pokemon lines every gen, but it's still fun seeing new forms of old pokemon. If you don't like them, don't use them. Nobody forced you to.
I'm someone who played the original Gold/Silver as a kid, and the last game for me was Pokemon Colosseum. Getting U-S/M so many years after, it was quite the culture shock. When people say Whitney and Claire were hard, we're talking thousand-year stare levels of "WAR...IS HELL". There were so many nail-biting moments, but I was the idiot who chose chikorita--and I'll stick by my chikorita. ;/ Then I got Ultra Moon. I was so thankful for the exp share, truth be told, because I remember how frustrating it was to only have a Prima strategy guide to look at for the longest time in order to get help. GameFAQs wouldn't become as popular for GS for quite some time when I was a kid. You're right about the hand-holding, though, even as I say I was more-so thankful for the PokePelago. Once I got an inklay with contrary, a grubbin, mimikyu and trevanent, I practically blitzed through the game. Maybe it's because my sensibilities are different from way back when, but my impression of most of the characters save for a few of them is that they all blend together. I could hardly tell Kukui from Hau or a good majority of the major characters because they seemed so..."cheerful and gung-ho", if that makes any sense? I could easily pick up the bigwigs of the Aether Foundation, Nanu, Hapu, and Nina because they had more distinction to me. Probably because they were mostly subdued compared to everyone else. I absolutely hated the mc, and wished I could be more dickish. I guess that would also be a programming nightmare too. Loved Rotom's functions, couldn't stand Rotom. Many of the other features like the scanning, trading and the like were wonderful additions as well. What I liked about Team Skull is that they seemed to be the leftovers of the failures of the trial system in Alola. It seems like there's quite the stigma attached to people who can't pass the trials, if I'm correctly assuming the case about Team Skull. The townspeople don't even seem to regard them as a genuine threat for the most part. At best, I thought they were very "[cue 1950's stock music' Oh, you silly scamps! *waggles finger*]". I was far more intrigued by that, and it's a shame the game didn't go too much further than surface level. I think we missed out on some good storytelling, because I can see that being a very valuable lesson for kids (and adults, I guess, from a pokemon game). The Aether Foundation was the closest thing to a "good" organization in my experience, had Faba not gotten greedy and Lusamine not been taken over by that poison. Where Kanto and Johto seemed more reliant on people for the inner workings of society to some extent, the Alolan Islands seemed to hinge on how auspicious and battle-eager the Tapu are. Since the Tapu gods are more tangible to the average Alolan in some capacity, it made them much scarier to me how intimate they were with the Alolan and how fragile life was on those islands. With the legendary birds and dogs, they generally kept their distance from people. If a god was made manifest in my hometown and said "you have to fight, and please me with your fighting to get my good graces", I'd move to another region. Ain't messin' with that. I can see why a lot of people don't like the ultra beasts. I'm mixed on them as well. Being able to travel to the world were you can see guzlord still eating everything then showing up was kinda scary to me. And then the ultra beasts lose their flavor with staka-whatever invading those post-game plains. Team Rainbow Rocket just...eh. I'm still waiting for an item to block trainer battles, but I think I that might be asking for something that goes against the game. Sometimes, I just want to scope out the area without unwanted battles.
Yeah I think his opinion on that is pretty terrible. In this day and age, people are gonna look up the type table on their phone anyway, so why not just put it in there? Knowing what is super effective alone is not going to win your battles for you, especially if you have poor type coverage in your team, movesets that don't fit your pokemon, etc... He also left out the fact that YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THIS UNLESS THE POKEMON IS ALREADY IN YOUR POKEDEX!!! Meaning that the first time you fight a new pokemon you have to fight it blind unless you have the type chart memorized AND you looked up the pokemon's type.
@@spade4acer See, the problem is that the information of telling you what's supereffective is totally unearned. Let's say you encounter a Pyukumuku in the wild. You're probably thinking that it's Rock type, so you use only Ground type moves against it and it faints. The next time you encounter another Pyukumuku, not only does it tell you the effectiveness of the type you used last time, but it also tells you the effectiveness of types you haven't used against it yet. Why is the game telling me everything it's weak and strong against if I haven't used those types of moves or caught Pyukumuku? What they should have done is go the Persona/Shin Megami Tensei route and have the type effectiveness be displayed only if you either caught the Pokemon or used that type of move against the Pokemon before. Showing that information without doing anything to earn it just oversimplifies the games to the point where you can legitimately beat them only by looking at the bottom screen. That and having a pointless map with markers on the bottom screen despite the game design be oversimplified to the point of never being lost.
I also didn’t like it. I bought it, and I stopped using it after playing for about 20-30 hours. I just came back to the game, 3 years later. Finally completed, and it’s actually not that bad now. I don’t know, but somehow, my mind changed into liking this game.
I had the same experience. Stopped playing it after the second trial or so because it felt odd and didn't have the pokemon charm. Then years later, I came back fresh and played it all the way through and ended up enjoying it for what it is. By no means is it one of my favourites, but it was unique to the classic formula.
30:35 I gotta disagree with you on this. It looks like Lillie for a reason. It's because Lusamine always picked out Lillies clothes and so she made Lillie look like an ultra beast. So there *is* a reason they look similiar, at least those two.
Yeah. And Lusamine styled herself after Pheromosa. But how do you explain Guzma looking like Xurkitree or Hala looking like Guzzlord (and Sophocles looking like Shiny Guzzlord)? I hate how this was never explained, a lot of potential wasted.
Honestly, the main reason why I like how the game tells you about move effectiveness in battle is because I run Hidden Power on some of my mons, and I can't for the life of me remember what type of Hidden Power they have. And I still keep forgetting about what types resist Fairy and what types Fairy resists.
Gladion's theme is actually a remix of "Run Away, Fugitives" from Mystery Dungeon, because he is a fugitive running away from Lusamine. Simple and clever.
Damn I agree on pretty much of all of this, especially the part about feeling like you were the only person that didn’t really like it. Great video dude.
I’m still a huge Pokémon fan, but more so because of the individual Pokémon and their designs, I really enjoy analyzing them and learning about all the lore and influence that goes into making them. I’ll even go as far as to say Pokémon designs are better now then they have been in previous generations. But the games need themselves need to undergo some serious changes. The biggest change I would like to see is a greater emphasis on exploration and length. These past few generations have had some thoroughly disappointing post games, not to mention everything feels so, small, I feel like these areas have so little to explore in them. And that can make these regions feel very small by proxy. Gen 8 had the right idea with the wild areas, but that just results in everything outside the wild areas feeling even smaller. My other complaints seem to mirror the rest of the fandom’s. GameFreak removing things that people really like, the games being super hand-holdy, the graphics being sub-par, the games coming out too close back to back, the characters, plot, and writing being weak depending on who you ask. In my opinion, the lack of depth and exploration is what really makes the newer games less then what they could be but should they fix that, as well as fixing all the other stuff mentioned above, I think there is a chance that Pokémon could continue to be good. I’m somewhat skeptical but also somewhat optimistic.
I would gladly shell out $150 for Gen 9 when it comes out as long as I can have everything that was cut from Gen 8. They could still have DLC that is expensive but I just would rather pay once and done to have 1000 plus mon’s than pay for the uncertainty that Pokémon Home will be around by the time I can transfer. What will happen to them if I accidentally miss a payment or find myself in a situation where I don’t have internet outside of my iPhone data (sorry Samsung fans I prefer my terrible iPhone 6S that is somehow faster than my husband’s newest model Samsung Galaxy phone and has convinced him to get one when he can). I don’t trust having my Pokémon data that I have collected from the years being in a “cloud based” storage unless I can put them into a physical or digital copy of my game. I don’t feel good about cloud storage and streaming games (what if it fails like Google Stadia??? All that wasted money).
Hear me out. The next core Pokémon made should be made by Monolith Soft, with a similar design philosophy they use with the Xenoblade games. The core games should honestly just be given to them. IMAGINE a Pokémon game with the world design philosophy of Xenoblade 1 and/or 2. I leave X out because it's so different.
@@princesspikachu3915 But iPhones are so damn limited. They're terrible phones for more complex use. I have 10 emulators, 12 consoles total(My OldBoy!, Dolphin), and there's no jailbreaking needed.
TheAbsol That’d be pretty cool. Like I said, I play Pokémon for the Pokémon themselves, so as long as the focus is on them, I’m down for taking influence from newer, arguably better designed RPGs.
TheAbsol I should clarify I have no experience with Xenoblade specifically, however, I’ve heard nothin but great things about it, so I’ll take your word for it that it would be great in combination with Pokémon.
If pokemon wants to succeed, the NUMBER 1 thing it must do, become non-linear and get rid of the gimmicky antagonistic teams. What I have seen with Gen7/8, it’s just a reskin of XY but with a cool gimmick. You essentially do the same thing you did in the last generation. Get starter, beat gyms, defeat bad guy, win Pokemon league. Gen8 with Sw/Sh expands on this with extremely tedious linear progression and a basic bad-guy team. This time around you don’t even get the legendary pokemon until the very end when the game is complete. When I got to the pokemon league I thought I just wasn’t getting any legendary Pokemon, which was dumb because they were held to such high standards. Then I got them. Then I put down the game. Pokemon needs to throw away the linear progression and different gimmicks if they want people to keep playing their games. Or if they did, at least make it interesting. The power-moves and massive, strong Pokemon didn’t really interest me. Because both already happened with Mega-Evolution. It was revolutionary for pokemon, only to be thrown away in the next generation.
I don’t know if you knew, but Gladion’s theme is a remix of “Runway/ Fugitives theme” from Pokémon mystery dungeon red/ blue rescue team. Fits pretty well if you ask me. Also mystery dungeon games have the best soundtracks of all the Pokémon games don’t @ me
It’s unfortunate how much I agree with most of this video, I’ve long accepted that Sun/Moon were my least favourite main entries, and USUM don’t do nearly enough to repair that... but there really are that many problems huh? I certainly wouldn’t say I hate it, at the end of the day it is a Pokémon game doing Pokémon things, it’s just less favourable for me. The only thing I really disagree with you on is the difficulty. It feels like because you played with the EXP Share off, you’ve taken the assumption that turning it on would make the game easy, but I don’t find that to be true. I hit obstacles with things like Lurantis even with the EXP Share on, and sure enough, I even lost to the champion on my first go! Granted I don’t think I had six Pokémon, but I honestly found this to be the most challenging entry since Platinum, and USUM goes way beyond that (hello Necrozma) Certainly I’ll look forward to the full Sword/Shield thoughts at some point in the future!
I've played both with the Exp. Share on AND off, had I not I wouldn't felt within my rights to say that the game isn't balanced around you playing with it off. In fact I'm pretty sure I've played through it twice with the Exp. Share on and I stand by what I said, I still personally feel that the games are ridiculously easy to a pretty silly extent with the Exp. Share on :P Regardless though thank for your kind comments and support! :)
I still hate Sword and Shield more for feeling like they truly stripped every bit of exploration from the games, by making every single route a linear hallway, and not even having a few secret areas like Sun and Moon did. The insistence on still having tons of text, for characters that i didn’t care about in Sword and Shield compared to ones I actually did in Sun and Moon made me remember how much more I enjoyed the story of Sun and Moon.
I enjoyed sun and moons characters and pokemon designs so much more than xy. Im glad the anime adapted the better parts of the games intp it Its my second favorite in the series before b&w and pokke
Another thing I didn’t like about this game is the tour guide/friend group. In previous gens, you get your Pokémon and set out on your own! No friends telling you where to go, you pick a direction and just go. Hate that today games always have a friend with you. Just let me explore!
I remember playing heart gold and getting stuck at Ice Road. I had no idea you had to push the stones down the holes. So I just grinded Frelgatr to level 75 until I found out what to do 😅 I was a very dumb kid, but it felt really good getting past that area and just sweeping the game
Me and a friend were stuck in the same area, but in GBC's Gold Version. We were like age of 10. Somehow, after a week we managed to get out XD Our Thyplosion wasn't at level 75 but it was a pretty awsome experience.
i laughed my ass off when you said that you couldnt help but take the legendary with you because i literally boxed it instantly because i didnt give a flying FRICK about it whatsoever. really liked the video though, props :)
only took them when i was young, be now, it's basically hey, you want to destroy the game from this point on, take this overpowered pokemon and have fun so yeah, insta box for most of them instantly
@@xdCloudxd1996 I know exactly what you mean. Legendary Pokemon that you get during the main game are often powerful enough to make the rest of the game easier by having them in your party. This is on top of the fact that if you already have a full party of 6 Pokemon that you have been raising up until that point, it can be difficult to choose to give up on one of them so you can include the new overpowered legendary Pokemon instead.
I only keep the legendaries with me that i really like and enjoy the design. So far, that's limited to Lugia, Yveltal, Reshiram, Kyurem and alt-form Zekrom. And even then, half the time they're boxxed because I value my original teams far more, and I just prefer a challenge. It's a lot more fun if they give them to you after the entire main game and elite four are defeated like in B/W2.
well that's just you. some legendaries are so cool you can't help but use them. dialga, ho-oh, reshiram, groudon, xerneas, solgaleo... and yes even zacian. if you value difficulty then yes you should box them but I'm the kind of person who wants the easiest game possible so using legendaries is enjoyable
I remember when the games were announced to be based on islands I had hoped we'd get to surf and explore between them. I remember loving exploration in windwaker or RSE or finding the Whirl Islands in Crystal
I'm sure I'm not the first to say this, but you did yourself a favor for skipping the Ultra games. If you didn't like Sun and Moon, oh boy, the Ultra games did it worst (for me anyways)
What's worse about the ultra games, are they much more difficult? Because i had a really hard time in ultra sun unlike any other pokemon game. The totems are real bastards!
@@MattKimura It was really the story that got butchered in my opinion. They kept elements of the story of Sun and Moon when the Ultra games were doing something else. Where Ultra fixed, other elements of the games were unnecessary or neglected. The greatest example is Lusemine and Nebby. The team still made Lusemine go insane of blind justice to help another world, and to abuse Nebby to gain access to Ultramegaopolis. Then later on, it turns out that the members of the Ulta Recon Squad ALREADY had a Solgaleo/Lunala as a means of transportation between Alola and their homeworld. It is because of that fact that makes Lusemine's betrayal and abuse of Nebby and Lilly absolutley pointless. Lusemine had no interest in the Ultra Beasts in the Ultra games. All she wanted was to stop Necrozma from destroying the homeworld of the Ultra Recon Squad and Alola. That is my biggest gripe with the Ultra games. There are improvements that the games did make with some of the trials. Sophocles' trial is more interesting than a quiz game, but the other trials weren't really that much more interesting as they were much of the same. From the trailers leading to the Ultra games, I thought we were getting hints of new trials and boss battles. An example of that was Lycanroc in one trailer. It looked bigger because of the angle and it was glowing with the aura normally seen with totem Pokémon, BUT it turns out to be an exclusive z-move that was ultimately given to the player with no fan fair by Hau. Speaking of totem Pokemon, I thought we would see more of the idea of exclusive boss battles between the two games like with the first totem battle with Gumshoos in Sun and Raticate in Moon. Granted there were some battles that were changed from Sun and Moon such as Araqunid from Wishiwashi and Marowak from Salazzle, but I figured we would get new trials alongside new battles. Another trailer, for example, showed us an interaction with Kahili where the Flynium Z crystal is though for a brief moment. That clip of the game gave the impression that things are definitely different this time around compared to Sun and Moon and we would see new trials and battles. Back on track, however, I thought Game Freak would expand on the idea like Gumshoos/Raticate boss battle. Initially, with Sun and Moon I'd figure the idea would be constant throughout the Island Trial. A couple of examples of this idea would be Wishiwashi for Sun and Araquid for Moon, and Luarantis for Sun and Shiinotic for Moon. Lastly, the difficulty of the Ultra games are not my issue with them. It is nice to have a challenge every once and a while. Lurantis still kicked my team back to the Pokémon Center a couple of times and it was fine because it made me think that I can just brute force the battle with my Torracat. As for Necrozma, it is the biggest difficulty spike of Pokémon since Evice from Pokémon Colosseum. Even with having a Metagross on my first playthrough was unable to tank the not effective hits. I didn't mind it. The music is great and atmosphere of the battle was great. Unfortunately, however, not the stakes. As before I entered the Ultra Wormhole leading to Necrozma, I flew off elsewhere for some reason, and was welcomed with the worm Alola sun as if nothing was happening. This is not the first time something like this happens in the series though. On a side tangent, Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald on the GBA did the same thing with the intense heat and constant drizzling affecting some of Hoenn and not all of it. I still remember as a a kid, I would fly back to LittleRoot Town to check on my mom to see how she is doing during the weather crisis only to see that everything before Mossdeep was untouched so I would sigh with relief. This may be a mouthful, but I hope I got my point across somewhat. If you still like the games, that's fine. You still have your opinion. I will just be visiting Sun and Moon more often that the Ultra games. (Also, Ultramegaopolis was a waste of time and potential)
When I first played Sun, I was impressed by the game having an actual plot and cutscenes the whole way through. However, when I played Ultra Sun I realized how bad it makes the game. They have no replay value, and it really does feel like walking from room to room and having an NPC talk to you in each one.
@@Jdudec367 I mean that even the outside works that way in sun and moon. There is always exactly one place that you can go next, and you never really have the ability to explore that places, as it's very small
I can agree that the story is a little toned down, so it’s not as good. But I kind of see Ultra Sun as The Definitive Aloha Playthrough, it’s much harder and not a toddlers game. It has WAY more post game, and the post game is one of the best In the whole Pokémon Series. Sure it’s very very Linear, but that’s kind of how I like Pokémon, Exploration was never my thing for Pokémon. I mainly played Pokémon because of My Team in the game, and the just the game itself. Though saying it has no replay value is kinda strange, I first played the game a year ago, then just started playing it yesterday, and had the same Charm. If you ever want to replay a game, I recommend when you forget most bits, so a few months or a year. Though that could just be me, Pokémon Sun and Moon though are VERY EASY. So I don’t feel very accomplished when I beat it, I feel like: “Oh hey finally I beaten this damn game” I don’t feel happy or excited or well accomplished, because the game was so easy. When you beat Ultra Sun and Moon, YOU FEEL VERY ACOMPLISHED, you just went through some very hard trials, Ultra Necrozma for fucks Sake, and a I guess tough Elite Four. The Post game too is very hard too, unlike SwSh, The story is bad, it’s hilariously easy, and the replay value IS HORRIBLE. I replayed it on April 3rd 2021, a year after I played it, AND I COULDN’T EVEN GET PAST THE TUTORIAL BEFORE GETTING SO BORED. Ultra Sun and Moon are definitely my cup of tea, and favorite 3D Pokémon game right now. Though I could understand your opinion.
@@yat282 You never played the OG red and blue. Ultra sun and moon are complete garbage and absolute disgrace to Pokemon. Trash story, bad designed mons, no freedom to explore, the game just tells you what to do next. It's terrible. I can't believe the games got this bad since the OG red and blue. I mean gen 2, hoenn games and HG SS were classics but everything else is just complete garbage. I feel sad that people don't like the Pokemon in older days when it was so much better
I didn't know this at first but the reason why Trials are so odd is because they were supposedly a last minute addition since they realized they didn't have gyms they had to supplement it with a puzzle for every totem.
Speaking on the exp share, after realizing how easy it made xy, I decided to play the game with a team of 18 Pokemon. 3 full teams rotated out throughout the game. And my party still ended up like 1 level over everything.
The first pokemon game I couldn’t finish, as a matter of fact by the second island I was done, it felt like a chore to see all those lame ass cutscenes. The constant handholding was on an all time high and I’m not gonna play any new Pokémon games as long as this is part of it
You asked the question "did any of you have a moment in this game where your pokemon got a critical hit at a decisive moment in a hard battle, and that's what got you the win," and I saw your Decidueye look back at you... It reminded me that the Pokemon Refresh functionality in this game blatantly gives your pokemon an unfair advantage where it increases the likelihood of getting crits "because they wanted to try hard for you!" or surviving an attack with 1 HP "because they were worried about you." The affection thing is just pure gamebreaking fake garbage, trying to manufacture moments like those because the design cannot do it naturally.
Your reaction to these games was exactly mine, too. Sun & Moon made me realize I don't like new Pokemon games anymore. Guess I should be thankful it made me realize it early, because it's saved me a lot of money the past few years.
@@BlackSalamander439 There's no good reason to take an option away from a player. No one has ever picked up a video game and said, "Aw, sweet! I don't get to choose anymore!" Also, Pokemon don't level up at the same rate. A permanent Exp. Share makes it essentially impossible to keep your team members at the same level, which is one of the reasons I never liked it. The only thing I used it for was EV training.
@@trumpeterjen so much agreement on my part. like, first they force you to catch the legendary (starting with BW), then they force you to turn on the exp share, whats next, taking away the arguably freest choice (the starter)? gen 9 they're just gonna say "three starters? nope mate we just got this fire starter here take it or leave it" lmao
@@TrigramThunder Game Freak in Gen 9, probably: "For a starter, you can have Charizard, Blaziken, OR this new Fire-type starter we're adding. Instead of being Fire/Fighting, it's Fighting/Fire! Also, the new Pokedex only has 25 Pokemon. Please understand"
i just recently found your channel and i'm going through a bunch of your videos, but i must say i completely agree on how easy these games are getting, making them more "accessible" is turning these games into a children's electronic story book, something that just tells you the story and finishes each page by even telling you to turn the page, i would love an open world style pokemon game, with actual exploration, not just a series of hallways where even the most out of the way areas are just a screen or two away and already have people there, it's just so dull
Main changes I would've implemented: - island challenges not being linear - ultra space being part of the post-game, similar to how you explore a whole new region in some of the earlier pokemon games. The two accessible rooms for the story have a roadblock that you can't move for whatever reason during that story portion, and then there's a logical reason during the post-game the roadblock can be removed, and then there's an interesting ultra-space area for you to explore to aid in research or something - The poke ride uses alolan pokemon instead of taurus and charizard etc. That would make it make sense in terms of the world building of alola; as soon as you introduce other region's pokemon, it becomes a question of 'then why is this not a thing in other regions'. Would've been more neat to make it exclusive to alolan pokemon
The whole thing about Rotom Dex? The unending "staccato" style cutscenes (cutscene, walk two steps, cutscene, walk to steps, cutscene...)? The total lack of meaningful exploration and optional paths? The complete _tube-like_ nature of progression? The never-ending interruptions by NPCs in every single location in the game? *_Yeah. THAT is what made me get downright ANGRY at this game. I couldn't finish it._*
The Battle Screen telling which moves are Super Effective is to remind me that Kommo-O isn't a Rock Type because dear Christ it looks like 1. I didn't have problems with Totem Lurantis at all but the Champion Kukui fight clapped my team over 20 times.
But that's why you catch one to find out what type it is and look at the Pokedex if you forget. You're not supposed to know these creatures going into it, and there have always been Pokemon who didn't look like their types until they evolved. I had no idea what the hell to do the first time I looked at Pokemon like Drapion or Armaldo. I didn't even know Oddish was part Poison when I first looked at it. You're supposed to get better at it the more you play the games. The best teacher is experience.
@@rhowiththeflow3889 It doesn't matter when it tells you. It's still babying you. If you play enough, you'll learn what they are. If someone plays a Pokemon game longer than I do and learns their type matchups and Pokemon typings better than I do, then of course they should be a better player than I am. You're supposed to reward players for knowing shit about the game, not shove a cheat sheet in everyone's face. They don't even let you turn the damn thing off. If you didn't know what type your opponent was in battle, you can look it up afterward. That's what the Pokedex is for. I can't tell you how many times I beat someone in an online battle even though I was using mid-tier Pokemon against their legendaries, just because I knew my type matchups and they didn't. Game Freak has taken away the satisfaction of winning by skill and dedication. That's inexcusable.
@@Jdudec367 How in the world is the skill and dedication still there? It takes away every advantage that dedicated players have rightfully earned. Hell, Generation VIII is more centralized than ever now that they cut more than half of the National Dex, so you won't even see that many different Pokemon when you're battling. There's no reason a beginner should be on the same level as a seasoned veteran when it comes to type matchups. What do you think experience is for? If you don't like it, just play the game to get better like everyone else did before Sun and Moon. Isn't the point of playing the game to get better at an activity you enjoy?
the only things I actually like about this gen is a few characters and character designs (team skull, golf lady, painter lady, prof) the Pokémon, and the region. Everything else is either just passable, not good, or poorly designed in my opinion.
My biggest problem with sun in Moon is actually related to what you said at 3:25 where you said that it is “all about Lillie” because it is really all about her and her family and not at all about you. I felt like I was just being forced into their family drama and by the end of the game I really didn’t feel like the hero of the story, I felt like I had just intruded on this girl’s personal life.
I mean tbf i would prefer that over us being the main character because we would probably just be a silent protagonist and the story would be kinda boring if we were the main character
I have a huge problem when games have a big disconnect between gameplay and story. You don't do anything to help Lillie; you just watch cut-scenes of you helping her. RSE - Fight the Poochyena in a battle to save Prof Birch. DP - Fight the Starly that ambush you in a battle. SM - Watch a cut-scene of you fighting Spearow to save Lillie. A straight-up downgrade in enjoyment. This is why I really didn't care for Lillie's story.
@@noishfanboy1141 This is an issue I have with Pokemon Colloseum. Wes could've been a cool character, but turning him into a silent self-insert protagonist is dumb.
I think we underestimate children way too much, children like games when they are challenging too and we also don't need to dunb down movies/series because they are "just childrens movies" When I was a kid, I was proud about knowing all the type advantages etc. Even though they weren't written out in the game
I played Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon without playing the originals, and I really liked them. I agree with the soundtrack thing a lot, there's only one or two songs that I really liked. I personally loved the ultra beast designs, and Primarina literally became my all-time favorite pokemon. But damn, is there a lot of dialogue and hand-holding.
What I did to avoid overleveling with the xp share was just rotate my party members a lot. I ended up with like 10 potential fighters and a bunch of pokemon evolved just for the dex.
Kinda same, I definitely swapped out several pokemon during the playthrough and even boxed my starter like midway through the game. I think the exp share makes it much easier to level up straggling pokemon more quickly, especially pokemon that have just hatched from eggs. Imo this is pretty important bc having to deal with an underleveled pokemon on your team is super annoying in the older games. I actually did not find the game to be extra easy at all and maybe this is because I messed around a bit with training different pokemon but at the same time, my pokemon went from overleveled to normally leveled once I reached the third island and weren't overleveled again.
I hated how Sun & Moon were Lillies' story and giving us ZERO reason for existing. I love Lillie but why am I not PLAYING as her? I connect far more with RPGs when assuming a character in-universe as opposed to an avatar of my own creation. That would have been awesome to play as a weak girl who starts out scared of her own shadow grow into her own person over the game and the whole structure of "trials" really play into the theme of growing into an adult who is capable. Such wasted potential.
There's a massive lack of end-game content (nothing new, it's Pokemon). 2. The story pacing is awful; it's especially bad since you can't skip the lengthy cutscenes. 3. The online features are obtuse as hell. A million games in and you can't set stakes or clauses. 4. Generic z-moves are ok but the Pokemon-specific ones are a huge waste of resources. 5. They failed to expand on Mega-evolutions. This is like introducing abilities but then giving up on adding them. 6. Difficulty is nowhere to be seen (again, nothing new). This could be easily remedied at low cost.
These old Pokemon videos suck go watch some of my newer stuff ruclips.net/channel/UCyAuKT-djIfpvsFxEGkIhDg
Ur recent vdos are actually good ngl
I actually like this video's points!
Go play DMC1.
Review when?
what do u mean with that? its not ur opinion anymore? or that the vid is lazy
@Olivia 757 Why are you answering like this, are Fudlj ? Because if not your answer is nothing.
"Things like aliens and mega evolution seem too big too leave behind"
*game freak leaves behind half of all pokemon *
Uhhhhhh how? Last I heard they were below 1/2 Pokédex being cut upon release of SwSh and they’re only bringing back 200 Pokémon for both DLC, not each one so we are now below 3/4 national dex. Still nothing about bringing back Mega Evolution either which seems like they’re dropping like a bad habit
@@ClaptonsWig thatll be another 30$ sir
psycho saurus pretty much, I do fear they’re going to find a way to make us pay to get them back. Like Mario Kart, you have to pay to get Mario.
psycho saurus haha so creative go to Twitter
@@psychosaurus1554 Remember when pokemon was 40$ for both main game and postgame? Now it's $90 for the complete package. (assuming you don't think SwSh's main game felt underwhelming or incomplete)
"Maybe the evil team should not be an evil team"
Team Yell comes along.
Team Yell legitimately sucks... Lol
only Death They aren’t the worst because Team Skull isn’t the main antagonist team of Gen 7. The Aether Foundation is.
They’re hooligans who were an obstacle along the way.
only Death Team Galactic doesn’t deserve to be compared to that failure of an evil team.
only Death Cyrus was the most interesting part of Team Galactic to me, tbh. Everything else was fine.
Team Yell isn't actually obsessed with Marnie. Her brother just told his gym trainers to pretend to be her fanbase, and to block the other competitors from completing the gym challenge so Spikemuth could be famous for being the home of the champion.
This is vaguely related to your point on how kids are much smarter than people think they are;
I've seen several sources say kids like being treated as an adult because in a way its a sign of respect. A lot of people sit there and wonder why an angsty teenage phase even exists when people around them continue to treat them like babies regardless of their age. Its a big problem everywhere but Pokemon (at least currently) really suffers in this front with the general "easy story, easy gameplay" style that gives it the reputation as "baby's first rpg." Black and White was probably the closest the series has gotten to breaking this trope imo
replayed black and white and i can tell you that it isnt difficult because its designed well, but because they decreased the amount of ex you get and as such, level up slower
gen 7 (especcialy ultra) had more of a complex plot and the difficulty was well higher then previous easy games
I would want to back up this claim, but my little brother, who is 6, still got lost in the game, simply because he didnt pay attention to the flag and countless questions to move forward. He would go off to another island and get stuck, ask me for help, and when I show him what to do, he does it again a couple days later.
Rocatex the exp curve is actually designed well. You get more exp the lower you are in level compared to your opponent. This means a few things. 1 it’s very hard to be over leveled.2 this discourages only using your starter like some people would. 3 if you catch a new mon or heck even breed one it is very easy to get them up to the level of your team ( one or two Audino at the area you are at story wise should do it). 4 level wise you are placed slightly below the level of a boss usually. This is optimal because you want the bosses to be stronger then the player but the player able to beat the boss with strategy and proper type matchups. For example knowing that hydreigon is very powerful but not all that fast and is a dark dragon type ( assuming you caught a deino you can probably make the connection) while under leveled slightly some options you have for taking it out ghestis hydreigon include but aren’t limited to using sawk ( fast and strong fighting type with ability sturdy so it can guarantee a hit) throh ( super bulky fighting type that can guarantee a crit with one of its signature moves) archeops uturn ( incredibly fast and powerful glass cannon of a fossil mon ( its first form has higher attack then some of the region’s final stage physical attackers) any of the region’s bugs terrakion meishao having a boldore use sandstorm then spamming potions healing it to full and it living because sturdy having emboar use superpower having samorot use megahorn have a cottenee use leech seed have it go first because prankster and then bring out a sturdy Pokémon and see the boldore strat. Realistically speaking you are most likely gonna have something for the occasion if you have a diverse team. Even if you are slightly underleveled you should be able to beat each battle with proper strategy. Even ghestis ace a pseudo legendary and one with a literal comp moveset can be beaten since sure it may one shot a lot of your team but it probably can’t outspeed and one shot the same amount ( chances are you will have something faster that can handle it since there are a lot of fast mons that have good moves to handle it).
Actually colosseum was
“These are easily the most linear games ever made”...
Sword and Shield-“ Hold my MooMoo Milk”
That's actually an interesting comment. I just played through Shield and it was the quickest I've ever gone through a Pokemon game. I said to my husband 'I swear the games are getting easier' but he said it is jsut cause you are an adult now. But I replayed Soul Silver about half a year ago and I found it still harder than Shield!
Ultra Sun/Moon are a lot better
Ray0209 sw/sh is the easiest Pokemon game ever, ultra sun/moon is way better and actually challenging at times.
@@eminemisthegoat2466 Agreed. I find Ultra Sun is difficult alone because of the SOS battles. I found in Shield I didn't even have to grind and pretty much all the Pokemon I caught I bread so they started at Level 1. Alone the fact that they removed the need for HM slaves in newer games makes them easier, as you basically got a free slot to cover more types. I stand by what I said, but I guess it is also difficult for someone who has never really played Pokemon to understand the complexity of some game mechanics.
No the easiest games by far was X/Y, as a person who’s played since HG/HS and has gotten all the other games. X/Y is by far the easiest, second easiest is the base sun and moon, and third easiest is SW/SH. You could say the original red and blue is the easiest but that requires a lot more work than it’s worth and might corrupt your save file soo... The ultra games aren’t hard at all, I don’t count ultra Nacozma was a challenge as that wasn’t meant to be BS, only hard part about the game.
The reason that tiny area between the two Lillie cutscenes exists at the beginning of the game is to give you a chance to save the game before you get your starter, in case you want to reset for its nature/gender or shiny hunt for it.
False since the starters are shiny locked when receiving them. Also you get your starter before that sooo.
@@powerrangerblue8566 The Gen 7 starters are not shiny locked, and you only get your starter prior to this in Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon
PowerRanger Blue weong
PowerRanger Blue they aren’t shiny locked, actually. I don’t blame you for thinking that since usually cutscene pokemon are but these ones aren’t, which is nice.
@@powerrangerblue8566 your thinking of gen 8 thats the one with the starter pokemon being shiny locked
Me: NOOOO YOU CAN’T JUST ONE SHOT RESHIRAM
Ghetsis: haha Hydreigon go BOOOOM
That is true XD
This is also why I carry a bunch of revives and I grind a ton haha
MONSTER HUNTER REFERENCE?
@@nazzarynnavarronunez9471 what?
Yep!
I haven’t played black or white and I’ve played black 2, but I lost it before fighting ghetsis
Fans: *complains about the Exp Share being too broken*
Game Freak: Oh what's that you want an Exp Share that you can't turn off? Okay!
I think the experience all is much more well balanced in SWSH
@@slickl9608 yeah but we should still be able to turn it off if we want to.
I've heard SwSh is by F A R the easiest game in the series.
TheAbsol it wasn’t. It was one of the easiest but compared to x and y and sun and moon it’s much less brain dead easy
captaindog eh gen 7 is harder with exp share turned off while sword and shield is harder turned on. X and y is easiest of all of them though. On or off. I once did a run where the only way I could kill foes in x and y was recoil usually from struggle. It was just tedious. I got the exp I needed by getting money from super training then catching stuff. For the first gym I caught a bunch dunsparce then spammed spite for example.
Everyone else: *Valid complaints*
Me: The clothes weren't as nice as X and Y's.
@@celadonangel7985 Yeah. Gen 7 had clothes that all seemed like you were at a resort and 8 was mostly sporty stuff with a few nice things thrown in.
the guy hair cuts in XY and the default hair for SM and USUM were literally the only normal hair styles for me, and now SWSH ain't got nothing for me... even the dlc has nothing...
Quirky
x and y had ugly cloths
omg yes i dont wanna wear stupid fucking tropical shit i live in florida i do that daily!!! i wanna wear cute shit from colder climates and stuff that are uncomfortable for me. so much of the clothes are so ugly like everythings a tank top or a t shirt. i do like how you can dye stuff but i feel like they took away from the designs with that in some cases. but taking off the hat is great
The black and white plot didn’t contradict itself, n was the one who had the idea to stop pokemon battling, ghetsis just used that idea for his gain, the bad guy wasn’t like “oooh here’s the objective truth” because he never said anything about it, it was literally n who wanted to stop battling but then was convinced that it was morally ok, ghetsis has no morals to speak of, he was just the antagonist.
and that's why i think that, just like bw2 would be incomplete without bw1, bw1 also would without bw2, not just cause they're smaller and more linear and story driven games, whereas bw2 let you explore a ton and do a ton of side stuff and post game, but also cause yeah, bw1's ending (although pretty freaking epic) did feel to me like kind of a spineless bailout to protect the franchise's image. so i'm really glad bw2 did a lot to fix that.
bw1 is like this revolutionary event and bw2 shows you the aftermath, how the whole team plasma ordeal had influenced the people of unova and their stances. like with the 2 different factions, one following n and fighting for the good of the pokemon and the other following ghetsis and just being terrorists. when you meet n in the ruins of his castle, and then again in dragonspiral tower, he clearly tells you that he will continue to fight for a world without pokeballs, where pokemon and humans will be truly equal. he broke free of ghetsis' manipulation and can see the truth, but his ideals are still strong.
True. N has an arc, I think Ghetsis is in the game just for the players defeat a bad guy and get a rewarding victory, as after defeating N you keep reflecting on his point of view and doesn't feel like an actual victory.
@@seamonsterclub BW also made the gym leaders feel like they were responsible for stuff, at least to me. It was so often that i remember the gym leader going after plasma and not just sitting in their gym. That may just be me tho
@32rush BW and BW2 don't have complex stories, but they are well developed with interesting characters. Just because it isn't complex, doesn't mean it's not good.
@@t0mmi576 He never said it was bad.
32:12 "these are literal beings from space they can't just be in a single game and not be heard of again"
Meanwhile Arceus, Palkia and Dialga who control TIME and SPACE which encompass the whole pokeworld are never mentioned again after gen 4
Fr tho
They appear on ORAS at least.
@@conic2721 and usum.
this aged poorly
@@Enerjy bring back the og red and blue
I still haven’t gotten out of the tutorial
*Im already in the post game*
"Let me explain how to..."
"Bitch! I've been catching Pokemon since before you were fucking programmed, don't tell me what to do!"
"First you have to weaken it like This..."
"I have 8 badges! I'm about to fight the champion, go away!"
I never finished the post game. That shit was so boring
@Castiel Arc7 i never even got to experience half of pokemon sun. I got to like the second or third town and couldn't fkn do it anymore. Literally every time i turned around heres another tutorial on some new dumbass feature we added for no reason at all. Or heres a tutorial on how to catch a pokemon when you're already in the third town? Like wtf was that?
@Castiel Arc7 i have a feeling those people never experienced ruby, sapphire and emerald in their prime. Those games should be the model of pokemon games. They are the holy grail lol. Im playing emerald right now and i love it just as much as i did when i was a kid, if not more.
"Its just a kids game its supposed to be easy" is one step removed from "video games are for kids" and "kids shows and games don't need good story"
They can have an easy mode for kids and put in a hard mode for all their fans that are adults its not fucking hard they're just making dumb excuses. Plus most of us played pokemon as kids and the og games were wayyy harder but we still beat them. They seem to forget that. We aren't retarded we don't need the games to be super easy. Most of their fans are adults now. Why tf can't they just add a hard mode but keep the easy mode for the retards? Smh
Anthony Salerno they had a hard mode in B2W2, but it was just higher level Pokemon iirc
They won’t make a hard mode because they don’t know how to without making the game a grindfest. Which is still a stupid reason
@@LillWawrence They only had a hard mode in B2 after you beat the normal mode once already, W2 only had easy mode. Yeah you could get the challenge mode in W2 as well but only as a WiFi gift, which wasn't a possibility for me. Also in addition to levels they added held items to many Pokemon in the hard mode, sure that doesn't make the battles strategic masterpieces but it's still a lot better than normal mode.
BW/B2W2 also had an anti-grinding XP-scaling system implemented, which means that the higher leveled Pokemon you encounter in hard mode actually makes it easier for you to get your Pokemon to higher levels during the story and considering these games added some of the latest evolving Pokemon ever, that's a very good thing.
They don't? I don't see why this is so controversial.
But sm does have a good dark story lol
I remember liking these games in my playthrough back then. It’s not as polished as other gens, but there were things that hooked me, two in particular.
- The new Pokemon were particularly well designed this gen. There were a lot of hits, like Rowlet, Lycanroc, Ripombee, Mimikyu, Salandit, Turtonator, etc. Lots of very cool ones.
- I liked the characters. Even if they were overexposed, Lillie’s story about growing past and overcoming her neglectful mother is truely motivating and engaging to me. I hardly ever get invested in Pokemon game stories, but Lillie’s story is a big exception. Also Team Skull is such a breath of fresh air because they weren’t world-conquering terrorists like Galactic or Flare, they were common crooks and vandals, and not always effective ones. People actually found it relatable how eccentric and presumably poor and how they talk about how bad they are when really they mostly blocked your path.
Galar with team yell? *Oh god they were not that entertaining and borderline annoying at times.*
@@DJtheMJ Team Yell, was so bad, especially when comparing them to team skull, they are similar, but Team Skull is just better in every way.
@@letsgetfluffy3138 team skull was a breath of fresh air. Team yell was just one too many words, *BORING, OBVIOUSLY NOT VILLAINS AND PLOT TWIST THAT WASN'T RLLY A PLOT TWIST*
Team Yell is by far the worst team ever, it would be better without a team in general.
@@madisnzz should've got the comos people
I'm actually one of the people that felt an attachment to my party by Hall of Fame! when I saw all of my Pokemon shown off that I had used along the journey, I was really really happy. It may just be because I was in Middle School then, but Sun and Moon really felt like an adventure because of the Pokemon themselves. I find a big attachment to my Pokemon because I love the Pokemon, not because of what we did together.
My pokemon team(s) in Sun and Ultra Sun and Moon are by far some of my most favorite teams. I just wish there was maybe a little less hand holding and the game was harder. Other than that it was arguably my favorite pokemon game.
Honestly same. This was my first ever pokemon game, so that's probably why, but I still loved my team
Yeah, like I loved my primarina and toucannon.
@@baronvonjo1929 I agree so much! There is so much good in gen 7 that gets overshadowed by the bad, Gen 7 will always be my favorite generation, and Alola will always be my favorite region!
In 2026 people will become nostalgic for it and Gen 7 will be considered a "Classic" Pokemon game instead of a Modern Pokemon game
Alola really felt like an adventure unlike Kalos, Galar and Paldea which felt like generic tours
And the music gives me Gen 4 vibes
The video was interesting because I love Sun and Moon and liked hearing someone else’s opinion on it, but when you asked “Did you feel connected to your team?”, my answer was a resounding YES. I have never felt more connected to a team than my beautiful, amazing Sun and Moon team, and I think I literally cried when they all appeared. I loved them so much that I have a hard time playing Pokemon games now unless I put just as much love into creating those teams because I end up wanting to just go back to said SM team, that’s how much I love it. And I think they’re a big reason as to why I love the game so much, though the region and characters (Team Skull especially) delighted me as well. God I love it so much, you have some good points but it was just so much fun.
Good for you man.
@@DarkSidieous77 Yeah! I know it sounds kinda lame, I just loved them a lot. It was a Primarina, Alolan Raichu, Salazzle, Tsareena, Bewear, and Alolan Ninetales, and all of them were girls and named after a certain style of dance. Just thinking about them makes me smile. The whole game means a lot to me. I get why people might not like it, but a lot of the things they hated don’t bother me that much. I plan on replaying it at some point when it doesn’t feel as... necessary, so maybe I’ll understand more of the criticism then.
Dude, i couldn't agree with you more! I only recently played Moon for myself and i was honestly kinda shocked by the end by just how much I adored each of my team members.
honestly me too.the fact that they can do all sorts of things for you if you build up friendship such as live on 1hp or get a crit makes you feel very attached to them.
@@noishfanboy1141 Exactly! And I love your profile pic btw
I really love these games despite their big flaws. These were my very first Pokemon games, and I was 15 when I started. I lived in a "Christian" family, so I had to play it behind my parent's backs. (They're fine with it now.) When I received my 3DS from a sister's friend (I was still 15), it came with Pokemon Moon. My parents quickly confiscated it, but my younger sister stole it from them and got me to play it. Eventually I was caught in the act and had to explain myself, so I told them that after finishing the game, I really came to like it and I wished to continue playing, so they let me, saying that I was old enough to judge what I considered to be good or bad for me, but for sneaking around, the game was confiscated for around six months. I got it back after I finished Ultra Sun.
Since these were my first games, I had to learn all the types and their strengths/weaknesses. I had a genuinely hard time in my first playthrough simply due to a lack of experience and grinding! I got Sophocles's audio quiz wrong mainly because I had to play the game in silence before the quiz, totems were the hardest things ever (props to Totem Wishiwashi and Totem Lurantis for making 15 year old me rage), and until I played Pokemon X, didn't realise what the Ride Pokemon were for. It was fun!
Edit: I even got my Dad to play this game! He had about the same reactions as I did, and my Mom made fun of the two of us for a while, but she was fine with it! Eventually, the original owner of that 3DS and game wanted them back, so I traded my Dad's team over to my Ultra Sun game, waiting for the return of Pokemon Trainer Darth Vader (Yes, he named himself Darth Vader and never changed his character's appearance). He got really attached to his Pokemon, especially his Pikachu. I hunted for a shiny Pikachu to give him for his playthrough, and after learning how to do so, he refused to evolve Pikachu! He also had a shiny Greninja (also my fault, but he loved it all the same!) The Pokémon that I saved for him were an Incenaroar named Dangit, a Midday Form Lycanroc named Marmaduke, a Dragonite named Elliot, Pharamosa named Skeeter, he named his Cosmog FruFru, a Klefki named Vinz Clortho, Lunala named Lunesta, several Dittos names Things 1-7, a Guzzlord named Cuisinart, and a shiny Raticate that he hunted himself with no special nickname.
Man your story is so wholesome. I do not know any people who started with pokemon moon and I started from pokemon emerald. Hearing about how you had to hide your game and eventually having your dad play the game as well is so cool. I'd say that your challenges playing in secret added the extra difficulty and made you more connected. I sort of was in a similar boat when I played pokemon white during middle school. My godfather, who would drive me to school every morning, actually drove me to his house first and I would get to play pokemon white for like half an hour before school.
I did not really like pokemon sun and moon or ultra sun and ultra moon and the newest games sword and shield look unappealing to me. I hope I can get the same feeling playing Pokemon in the future, as it holds a very special place in my childhood.
Got a TL;DR?
I am super happy for you and I am so glad your family was able to bond over something that was originally disallowed
This is so wholesome T__T
This is such a nice, wholesome and relatable comment 😊
Gotta disagree with you on 2 points:
Team skull is amazing because the game finally acknowledges how pathetic evil team grunts are, and they played with that concept. Even Plumeria says they're idiots, but charming.
2. Buzzwole is amazing
Yeah I hated it when he said that they were pretty much the same as every other evil team, because they're clearly not. I wonder if he's even paying attention.
With team skull and team yell I am now tired of these not evil villain teams. They just exist to hide the twist villains which are far more boring especially after you are spoiled on their existence.
@@inconemay1441 I feel like it worked with team skull cause it was kinda new and some of their lines are really funny and charming. I feel like they tried to do the same thing with team yell. Tbh they were really annoying and boring tho plus the gym challenge with them wasn't really fun or interesting. At least in pokemon sun and moon, the team skull area was more fun and had some secrets.
Zad Ras youre wrong that evil team is just bad and I hate it too and it isn’t even a evil team duhh
@@inconemay1441 I disagree because Sun and Moon was actually the first time that the real villains turned out to be someone other than each generation's Team Whatever. I understand that they are kids games and the mechanic of the 'evil' team to provide an antagonist may be repetitive but it mostly works. Sun and Moon gave it a little twist, in that Team Skull were clearly not an international organisation bent on destroying the world, but really just a load of disenfranchised thugs. I personally did find them quite funny and endearing, and I came to really like Guzma by the end - plus the final battle against him was actually hard. The Aether Foundation may be a little boring but Lusamine and her obsession with the UBs is a somewhat interesting side plot, and I actually didn't immediately guess that the Aether Foundation would be the true bad guys, which is about as much of a plot twist as we could possibly hope for.
Nintendos mentaility of "just for kids" is severly outdated. Todays kids play mobile games, cod, fortnite, legos, roblox, fnaf, minecraft, and nintendo games.
The only reason mario odyssey had a moving camera is when they realize kids can actaully comprehend using a second stick to move a camera as they been doing it for years in minecraft
Its get worse becuase theese fans grow up and a good number dont stop playing their games
Nintendo no longer markets primarily to children, they learned that from the Wii U. Their model now is to create games that can be played by anyone, but include accessibility options for those that want them. Then, they market their games and their console to people in their twenties and thirties who'll either buy for themselves or buy to share with their children.
But that doesn't even matter, because Nintendo only publishes Pokemon games, it's Game Freak that makes them. Game Freak's model is to minimize effort and maximize profit, and the easiest way to do that is to make games that are so trivially easy and offensively barebones, but sell them to children that haven't yet learned how to judge quality. The fact that pathetic adults on the internet are willing to defend 'til their dying breath what is essentially overpriced shovelware with a Pokémon logo slapped on it is just a bonus for them.
yeah Alfo really summed up how I feel in general about it, that's extremely accurate.
Sword and Shield was the definition of phoning it in, it was like the bare minimum required to call something a Pokemon game. The modern Masuda-Ohmori era of game freak is about introducing disposable mechanics, and taking the player on a sanitised, unchallenging holiday where they get walked through a guided tour, and every possible side route or mystery is either orchestrated for later in the plot, or fenced off permanently.
The only reason SwSh had less cutscenes than Sun and Moon is because they couldn't be bothered to make them. They've learned nothing, and if anything have gotten worse since their sudden realization that they can hack off parts of the pokedex and sell them back in chunks in order to retain player interest over a longer period and make extra money.
At this point, play Pokemon fan games, or just make your own. You'll do a better job than they can.
@@PrismTheKid Yeah. The Pokémon series is in the same (if not worse) situation than the Sonic series at the moment. Like you said, the fans far outshine anything done by the actual developers. Unfortunately for Pokémon, Game Freak/The Pokémon Company can profit ridiculously on low quality titles, whereas Sonic Team/SEGA cannot just make a Forces quality game every year, so there will be improvement for Sonic, which cannot be said for Pokémon.
PrismTheKid Yeah but most big ambitous fan game are given the copyright hammer and it sucks
They went from kids to manchildren. Same thing really.
"It's pathetically easy no one should ever get it wrong"
Should I be worried for getting it wrong on two different occasions
I remember my big Pokemon moment. Heart Gold, fighting against Lance. Both of us down to our last pokemon. My feraligater was one hit away, while his Charizard was half health. The Charizard's attack missed.
I'll remember that forever. I'll never forget my heart pounding as I fought my damndest against a champion who I'd come to love and respect.
I don't remember anything about Gen 6's elite four or champion. Nothing. I can't tell you a single Pokemon that Diantha had, nor can I tell you any of the elite four types. The battle was soulless. With Lance, I felt like I earned my champion title. With Diantha... well, nothing.
Funny thing about that. Gen 2 and the Gen 4 remakes are often criticized for having a wonky level curve but this part is where I will always say it worked out well. If you don't grind at any point of your run, you'll actually be under-leveled when you stand in front of the Indigo League. This makes for some pretty epic Elite 4 runs that can actually challenge you.
And yes, Kanto isn't much of a problem with your champion team but MAN does Red make up for it. You gather 16 badges, you feel like you're on top of the world and the previous protagonist feeds you humble pie and kicks you off his mountain and back into the dirt. There's a reason he's one of the memetic badasses of the Pokemon games and it's not JUST Gen 1 pandering.
@@nousername191 the level curve still isn't good.
@@Jdudec367 True. It just had moments where it could work out.
@@nousername191 eh...true mainly just red but even then...could have been done better...I've finally been starting to play the older games starting with yellow and...about halfway through the 8 gyms it's like later gym leaders like koga and sabrina there pokemon's levels suddenly spike up
You are just being nostalgic! Wake up to reality: there is no hard Pokémon game.
I've been informed by a few people in the comments that the Exp. Share was not introduced in Generation 3 and was actually introduced in prior generations. I have to admit, as much of a lifelong superfan as I am this totally threw me for a loop and I was sure these people must be making stuff up but sure enough I looked it up and they were right, the Exp. Share was not first introduced in Generation 3! My bad!
Also coming back and watching this video after over a year is crazy lmao it's edited so poorly and I sound so nervous/unconfident lool, glad people like it tho! :)
i really enjoy these types of videos. you did a great job. you got my sub!
Yea, in gen 1 the exp share actually acts exactly like what you propose on this video. It splits the exp evenly among your party (so each Pokemon gets 1/6 for example). There were no hold items in gen 1 so you would "turn it off" by depositing it in your pc
Really cool that you actually came back to make the correction. You can definintely feel the improvement in style and delivery in later uploads but this is still a solid vid :)
In Gen 1 and 2 you had to go out of your way to get them so it's understandable that you didn't know
Fudj lol
I feel like when talking difficulty people tend to overlook 2 huge problems that started with X/Y.
1. Starters are inmensly overtuned, their stats even in worst case scenario are amazing at dealing with every milestone in the game and they usually have a huge movepool to complement them.
If you go back to older games, the starters served as a covert way to choose difficulty Charmander gets absolutely shit on by most of the region, while Bulbasaur only starts to struggle towards the end and Squirtle jus kinda curbstomps the whole region given enough TMs.
2. The game throws way too much money and items at you. It expects you to buy clothing in every city and it supplies you with every item you will ever need so you can.
I have over a million Pokedollars in my ultra moon cartridge even though I barely ever touched it since I finished the main game and never grinded or rebattled the elite 4, I didn't try whatsoever.... And I have a million dollars. I just wish I could transfer that all to my AS save file, because I actually care about that.
i dont think your first point is fair. Since you could easily catch mon to help out with your starter's weakness early in the game.
And lets say if it your point did fly thats unfair to any kid who had no idea about the rest of the game and just picked charmander cause they thought it looked cool
EDIT: Now that i think about the starters in gen 7 dont have the best of stats since all 3 are really slow. cinderace intelleon and decidueye dont have good movepools too. you could easily make a case for most starters having better movepools then the gen 8 one
I 'member when starters were covert difficulty settings!
Johto was as follows:
Chikorita = Yamcha
Cyndaquil = Goku
Totodile = Piccolo
Overtuned starters are because they don't want another gen5 situation where nobody used the starters becuase they are mediocre in story mode and trash in competitive (with one hard to obtain exception). The starters are part of a generation/region's representatives (alongside box legends and such) so it sticks out more.
@@kirin1230 you can always buy items in USUM that sell very expensive in ORAS pokemarts and trade yourself pokemon holding them, but at that point going through all that effort just to get 1,000,000 pokedollars on AS you may as well just grind for money on that game directly or even hack it in using pokehex or other hacking tools... not like anyone will care nowadays that you're hacking 3ds saves in a few years these games will probably lose their online like the DS ones did anyways and that'll close the era of "online battles for free without monthly fee" forever
A lot of those didn't really bother me until Pokemon Sword and Shield. They seemed way too easy, linear, hand-holding, way too much experience with experience share, etc. Your comment near the end was spot-on.
Yeah. I’m three minutes in and I don’t exactly want to finish it because I already know.
What I have found is Sun, Moon, Sword and Shield and basically reskins of XY. Get starter, learn about special gimmick, beat gyms, defeat bad guy and win pokemon league. XY was revolutionary with Mega Evolution, but it was thrown away almost immediately with the hand-holding S/M Sw/Sh.
@@coledavis5212 i mean all pokemon games follow that formula though
I actually like that it tells you what is super effective because of how many Pokémon there are. People complain about there being too many Pokémon and this helps to not need to memorize every type.
I like to think that Pokemon is more complicated than "press the super-effective button and win".
You might aswell make it an auto battle game where it picks your moves for you if you’re going to take out the single thing you have to think about. Just make it so when you see a trainer. The screen goes black, then comes back and tells you who the winner is.
Honestly, i pre-ordered Pokemon Moon when it came out and to this day I never finished it, the handholding and the cut scenes destroyed the game for me
PascalPoke I finished it and tried to replay it but I couldn’t cause the cut scenes especially at the beginning are so long
@@GabyBong I really like the cut scenes lol
I got all the way up to Poni Island and just stopped playing because I was bored to tears. I just wish I didn't transfer all my gen 6 pokes up to gen 7 because I had far more fun with gen 6.
Jeremy Abbott I literally stopped at this exact point, god I just wish they made the games like they used too.
@@mitskibeefyballsacks6298 #pokemon dppt 2
I really really liked Sun on my first playthrough, but its impossible to replay. I still think it deserves praise for that first playthrough. However it gets really boring in the middle when you know what happens in the story and nothing is new. I really like at least 2/3 of the pokemon, the region is dope, i like the story, the characters are at least ok, and some of the gimmicks were fun.
My main problems with sun and moon is that they are a slog to replay and some minor stuff. But those things really effect it.
Also gen 5 is awesome shut up shut up shut up
Edit: i super disagree with your opinions on ultra beasts, megas, and the music. The design work has never been the problem in pokemon. If you dont like them its a personal issue, and while im not saying you should like them (though i do think that haha) you shouldnt lump them in with actual criticisms. Thats definitely the most flimsy argument you can make against anything, really.
Haven't watched the video all the way through yet but this is basically how I felt. I really loved the game the first time through, but playing through ultra sun just a year later was dreadful. The best part of that game, the Rainbow Rocket episode, is obviously only after the main game. So if you want to play that, you have to slog through the main game.
I just wish they could balance out the story and exploration better. SwSh was somehow worse on both fronts. I feel like I haven't really enjoyed a Pokemon game since gen 5, outside of that initial playthrough of SM.
It's fine for liking Gen 5, anyone who doesn't have a slight interest for it at all is not a true pokemon *player* , yes not a "fan"
Omar Elzant Everytime I replay a game isn’t because I want to experience the plot again. A lot of the time it’s because the gameplay is well done or in Pokémon’s case, it’s because I want to play through the game with a new team, restrictions like nuzlockes, and whatnot. In the case of Dark Souls, it would be to try to beat the game with a faster time, see how I’ve improved, or experience certain bosses again. The point is, replayability is very important to some games and if Gamefreak doesn’t get that, then they are even more out of touch with their fanbase then I thought possible.
Omar Elzant Yeah I agree with Truthlearning here, replaying old Pokémon games is half the fun! I’m not angry that’s it gone, I did love Sun and Sword (on first play-throughs of course) but it was a huge part of the first few generations, and it makes the increase in price to $60 feel a bit high since I’ll be getting less playtime out of the game than, for instance, Sapphire, which I’ve replayed dozens of times to try new teams and challenges. And Dark Souls is actually also often replayed I believe. I don’t play it, but my brother has done multiple play-throughs to use different classes, weapons, and I think to get a different ending in dark souls 3 (I may be wrong on that).
@Omar Elzant????
As some one that's a fan of rpgs I'm used to a lot of cut scenes, but my god was this a struggle to get through. The gameplay isn't rewarding for getting through all of that.
This is the only Pokemon game I've never replayed twice. Black and White had a much better story that doesn't clash with the gameplay, not to mention much more memorable characters.
Keeys Gen 5 was pleasantly challenging. Especially if you are playing the first games where you can’t really use the older mons.
I can safely say that at this point, I have beaten Black and White at least a dozen times, plus probably 4-5 times for Black and White 2.
But for Sun and Moon and Sword and Shield, honestly I felt bored just watching a let's play of the game, just this felt tedious and I still had someone talking and commenting to maybe make it less boring, but I just couldn't. These games are too handholdy and cutscene heavy. Gen 6, that's something I could definitely replay a couple of times, but gen 7 and 8 ? You'd have to force me
I hard disagree with you about the “much better characters part”
N and arguably Ghietsis were the only remotely good characters of Gen 5 and even then, I find their popularity in the fanbase overrated.
Gen 7 has multiple memorable characters, including a professor who actually has far more than a 1-dimensional personality, a villian who’s arguably more evil than Ghietsis while as the first female villain we get, and a female protag who’s the best written female Pokémon’s given us thus far.
@@animetechnoblade1009 I'd have to say that both Ghetsis and Lusamin are pretty one dimensional characters, however Ghetsis in terms of being the villain was much more thought out. Both have some aspects of child abuse involved, however you feel a much bigger impact of that between N and Ghetsis.
Maybe it's not that gen 5 had more memorable characters per say, but they definitely had more characters that give a sense of world building. Lots of the characters feel like their own person with their own goals and don't feel like the protagonist has to be around for them to grow, but in gen 7 the few great characters almost have nothing going on outside of the protagonist.
For example the gym leaders in gen 7 has no use outside of just getting their badge, but in gen 5 gym leaders felt like part of the world because they were more than just leaders and even showed up at the end.
I won't say you are wrong since most of this is just opinion, but there's just something that makes me feel like the devs put more care into the overall world, story, and characters in BW/BW2.
Sadly gen 7 was too slow to get to the point and constant interruption of progression is also a factor on how your experience goes.
Keeys Seeing your response, I can respect your thoughts on some stuff while still disagreeing on other parts
I don’t have time to explain it in depth but I have seen well written posts that explain Lusamines character and why she is a phenomenal Pokémon villian who was arguably even worse than Ghetsis in evil (partly because of how they treated their children). The difference is that Ghetsis only lied to N; Lusamine mentally abused Lillie and Gladion, and we see this demonstrated by Lillie mentioning one time to the player about how surprised she is that we can dress and take care of ourselves, implying a much deeper level of abuse behind closed doors. If you ask me, I felt more for Lillie and Lusamines complex mother-daughter relationship than N and Ghetsis. But that’s just me. If you prefer the former there’s nothing wrong with that either.
I also have to disagree that not every great character in Gen 7 had to rely on the protagonist being around them to display how great they were. Kukui is a great example of this. Unlike the typical professor who just hands off a dex and tells you to scram, Kukui actually engages himself to you throughout the story and has a big role. He even becomes the final hurdle for you to cross in the first S/M games, being the one who directly witnessed your growth. Instead of being the passive 1-dimensional professor, he’s more of a mentor and father figure for the characters.
I do agree however that most of the trial captains didn’t have much to their characters besides being the ones to give you your Z-crystals. I won’t deny that. That’s actually why im glad the anime scrapped them of their rank so they could become actual characters.
Pkmn Gens 1 to 6: do you want to play in Set or Shift mode?
Pkmn Gen 7 onwards: you will play with type advantage markers on
there's a reason why there's an Options menu, GameFreak!
Whats set and shift mode
@@hatchell18 is this sarcasm or an actual question?
@@jgr7487 its a legit question. I haven't played the older games in forever. I remember them being in the settings menu but I don't remember what they do. Can you remind me bro lol
@@hatchell18 shift: announces that the opponent will change their pkmn, allowing you to change together. set: you never know when the opponent will change their battling pkmn
@@jgr7487 oh shit fs thanks for the info man.
Team Skull is the first of the, "evil team that's barely evil" trope. So I'm gonna have to disagree with you when you say Team Skull is like most other teams cuz it's really not. Their a joke and they know they are. Plumeria calls the grunts idiots. Also when you say Gladion's theme doesn't fit him. All your other points are very good tho. I wish for lack of roadblocks and handholding in future games but Gamefreak gets lazier with every installment so oof.
yeah what an unbelievably dumb thing to say lmao, i always feel like im incapable of being surprised by the stupidity of british “people” but they always find a way. team skull’s whole thing is that they’re kids growing up in poverty/with abusive parents who band together to find strength and the game shows you this without telling you this but apparently the slightest subtleties in storytelling go over the head of the anglo barbarian species
rotom dex to me kinda felt like i actually had another person following me on my journey like ash had in the anime
i found myself reading everything he said and appreciating that he was there with me commenting on what was happening
yeah idk why people think he's annoying. Half the time I didn't even notice what he was saying, and the other half I thought it was pretty funny.
@@spade4acer at least he's not as bad as Navi or Fi xDDDDDD
In 2026 people will praise the game and treat it like Gen 5
based. this is the first game in the series where i stopped mid playthrough and thought "man, this isn't fun"
Same. Although I love that they literally made "The power of friendship" a mechanic. Only new mechanic that really made me smile
I remembered being bored during my playthrough too...
But I felt bad about Lillie's backstory though.
@@axis6333 bruh what that was in x and y
I can say the same about Red/Blue... it's probably just a matter of what kind of Pokemon games you like and are used to, but I definitely prefer the modern era. So no, not a based opinion. Just yours.
Same. I had to replay Ultra Sun for Pokebank, and its utterly horrible. I had to transfer my lvl 100 Metagross to get through it. Super boring
I’ve played Persona 5 so I know what it’s like to go through tons and tons of cutscenes at a time, but I still hate Pokemon cutscenes and I think I know why, they just simply aren’t good
Exactly yeah, the writing in Pokemon is awful, I never played Pokemon for the "epic" story anyways. Sun was the first game I couldnt finish
Persona 5’s story is great and its characters are lovable, it makes sense to have a ton of cutscenes to develop it. Pokémon games really don’t have that good of a story to warrant long cutscenes aside from MAYBE Gen 5
@@IceBlueLugia gen 5 is overated
Generally bc I found the story of Sun and Moon to be good, the cutscenes were much more tolerable for me, compared to say when I played gen 2 and 4, they were more sloggish
@@Kristiano100 Gen 2 is superior total the gen 7 trash in everyway. The old games are classics. They are much better than the new games
Howdy there. I came here after watching your Smash Ultimate video. As someone who holds this game in high regards I can respect your views and even agree with a few of them. The difficulty was an issue until USUM (which is I game I don't like) but in general Pokemon should offer some kind of difficulty option. The type advantage move-thingy actually only shows up after you've fought the opposing Pokemon's species at least once. The type advantage change is useful for competitive as it does reduce stupid mistakes you shouldn't make and even allows mistakes to happen because of ground moves vs levitate Pokemon. Although the exp share is pretty powerful I never felt it took anything away from the game. I treat Pokemon games pretty casually so I didn't mind and on the contrary I felt my Sun playthrough team was on of the teams I liked using the most mainly because Alola's roster is great. I can actually remember all their names off the top of my head because I liked the team so much. The cutscenes are no doubt a problem. Pretty much everyone agrees a skip or fast forward button would have been nice and SwSh did actually add it for the 5 cutscenes you could use it on (hey it's a start). Rotom dex I will admit was also a pretty bad feature but I didn't hate it. At least he's slient (unlike in the anime) and in USUM they actually made it worse as well.
Generally that's all I can respond with. I get the game isn't perfect (I know it isn't) and it has some bad elements like Sophocles' trial whch I always disliked but generally I enjoy the games. I prefer them to games like All the Hoenn region games, XY and possibly even DP. For your first video it's good and hey they even changed somethings in SwSh you didn't like such as the trials and the bad guys always being under the "team" branding. It was an enjoyable video, and I gave you a like. Sincerely a Gen 7 diehard.
I genuinely LOVE playing Moon, so this video kinda made me sad, especially looking through the comments. I didn't realize how many people hated it, and since I'm not a die-hard Pokemon fan and just play it casually, I wouldn't see it from their perspectives. I did agree that most of the cutscenes were too much but at the same time, the more cutscenes with my husband, the better. There weren't too many of those :(
Dakota O'Brien I also thought they’re we’re too many cutscenes but I thought they were well written and I really liked the characters so they didn’t bother me
'A moment that gives me a story that I can talk to my friends about'
*_Ultra Necrozma flashbacks_*
Is it weird that watching this makes me remember how much I love this game (probably because it’s my first Pokémon game)
Ok ok, but lillie and gladion were both good characters who had good backstories and amazing development.
Maybe, but the constant cutscenes shoved into my face and the constant hand holding ruined their characters and the story as a whole for me
For a pokemon game
I really wish gamefreak would stop with the blank silent protagonist. Everytime I saw Gladion I legitimately felt he should have been the play character. Altering your type null with held items would be a solid way to replace starters.
yeh but the constant cutscenes make me hate them lol
How can anyon enjoy the cut scenes, they take forever to skip, and take away more content of the game to explore. I hate this games progression so much, and replayability is a pain in the ass to relive the fucking tutorials.
Xurkitree is an exception if you ask me i love that freaky boi, you’ve seen that walk???
I kinda found it stupid 😭
Xurkitree is just one funky man, and that's what I like.
he is one funky boy and I love him
I kinda disagree with you on the BW ending being a contradiction.
Explain
@@vandagylon2885 I don't remember it going against anything. N wasn't contradicting himself, he learned that he was in the wrong and set off to contemplate on the ideals he was being brainwashed to believe his entire life. He believed that the segregation of Pokémon and humans was for the best, being completely oblivious to Pokémon not wanting that themselves. It hit him all at once when the player and their own ideals overpowerd his, presenting itself as truth. Nothing about the ending contradicted the story.
@@TheAbsol7448 dude "the player and his own *ideals* presenting themselves as *truth* " no way that was unintentional lol. beautifully written I can tell you love the BW story just from reading that. personally I loved BW much more than BW2 (which is not to say that I didn't lobe BW2), but the original BW just hit me incredibly. BW2 is definitely faring better compared to BW than USUM fares compared to SM if you get what I mean. way more changes
@@TrigramThunder That's why I love Unova. Partly why B2W2 is so much better than USUM is that it's a sequel, and I've heard USUM kinda ruins any decency the character roster had.
Also, yeah. That was completely intentional, but it fits!
I'd say that's why I loved the story so much. Team Plasma was a jab at organizations like PETA, where they say they're for animals on the surface, meanwhile doing everything to contradict that behind the scenes. How ironic that PETA tried to get back at Game Freak with a parody flash game with 10x the brutality of what it's parody-ing. All the while N is treated as a false messiah in this campaign only to find out that he was just a pawn.
Team Rocket, Magma, Aqua, and Galactic might want to rule the world but that's hard to get behind when there really is no reason for it. I truly despised Team Plasma because they seemed logical, had an actual plan that made sense, and were a direct threat to everything pokémon was about. Ghetsis is a cunning and manipulative tyrant, and is quite possibly the best antagonist from the series.
"Pokemon is a kids' game"
Some dude in Pokemon Emerald in mt. Pyre: "I'm going to cream you"
Tbf, you can't tell me that childhood you wouldn't cream May.
I liked how they did the quiz in the Kalos Electric type gym. If you answer correctly, you may proceed uninterrupted. But if you fail a question, you get "punished" with a battle (which obviously means more experience and money). The trainers even reference that by wondering if you just answered incorrectly to battle them.
I think that's just a repeat of Blaine's Gym from Gen 1, though. I know I would always answer the question right and then go ahead and fight the trainers anyway.
@@CrookiNari Admittedly I haven't played any Kanto games in years. I totally forgot about that.
@@CrookiNarii'm sorry to break it to you but Kanto is irrelevant
I believe the brief moment of control you get at the start of the game is this weird compromise to let you soft reset for a starter without breaking up the later cutscenes. Why they don't put it closer to the selection is beyond me, but that's almost certainly why it's there.
Yeah, I remember literally yelling "OH MY GOD, SHUT UP" while playing Moon, and I just couldn't bring myself to like or finish it.
I'd hate to be your friend. You sound so obnoxious
@@yoshii2757 Thanks.
Why are you gonna play RPGs if you don't wanna watch cutscenes
@@Soniman001 My issue isn't cutscenes, but it just seemed like they never had anything important to say, and were only there to say "Over here, dipshit." The water trial (which I think was mentioned in the video) is a good example of that.
Soniman001 I like cutscenes in RPG’s but in Gen 7 it didn’t really impress me. Yeah the graphics are better than anything prior to the Switch games (which isn’t saying much) but I didn’t feel moved with Gen 7’s cut scenes like I felt with all 4 of the Gen 6 games. Gen 7 is my “battle and breeding and shiny hunting game) and my copies of ORAS/XY are my fun “replay” games. AZ’s story arc with Floette was so sad and sweet. Zinnia’s story arc in the Delta Episode has way more meaning than the Rainbow Rocket Episode. Bonus points for representation in Zinnia’s character being possibly bisexual.
I never liked the "tell you the type matchup" feature ever since it was revealed E3 2016. The whole point of RPGs is to use your brain to some extent. Critics who praise an RPG by basically not being an RPG is absurd to me. RPGs have this amazing compromise where someone who doesn't want to strategize alot can just over level and blast right through anyway, and Pokemon is no different. Even if they wanted to include the "tell you the type matchup" anyway, why can't we at least toggle it off?
I mean at least its only present for battles with pokémon you've fought before. For the first time you encounter something it doesn't turn on
i know right? what kind of person plays pokemon and doesn't remember type matchups? we have only 18 types and some of those are pretty uncommon to find, and not even all of the possible weaknesses/resistances/immunities combinations are even on any actual pokemon, barely more than half
It really bothers me how you keep saying “Nintendo and GameFreak” as if Nintendo co-worked on these games. Nintendo has literally no involvement on these games or the decisions GameFreak makes, they just publish the games...
Nintendo has a huuuuge part in it. If you think Nintendo leaves publishers alone (even first party ones) you're mistaken. Ask Sakurai, he jokes all the time that Nintendo is breathing down his neck.
GameFreak may have had some more leeway in gen 1 but today it's very much dictated by what Nintendo wants from the series.
@@dxqx3794 Nintendo always puts effort in their first party games, just look at BOTW/Super Mario Odyssey. Xenoblade is made by a second party company and still the games are amazing. Just compare Xenoblade 2 with Sword and Shield. The problem here is Gamefreak.
Now that swsh are out... I actually started appreciating sun and moon more, gen 8 was an example of what NOT to do.
In 2026, Gen 7 will become just as praised as Gen 5 and will be put with the "Classic" Pokemon games
...I'm so mad right now. Not because of the hot take, no. But because now I know why I got absolutely MURDERED on Poni Island. I hadnt played since Diamond, I didnt know the XP share did spread teamwide.. I was taking my time and grinding each one individually. Wow I hate that.
Axis i’m sorry but your misery is funny
Such is life man
I think people like the idea of the trials, being more like an adventure in the world than just battling more trainers. They were all dissappinting though.
The appeal of team skull is how campy and goofy they are, personally i wish they were more than a red herring for the obviously evil aether foundation though
eh...trials weren't disappointing really
aether foundation wasn't as obvious compared to say team plasma
me personally, one change I've always hated was fishing.
In at least gen 1 and 2, you just go up to the water and use the fishing rod you want, then wait, and then you have a chance for a bite.
However, when I first played pokemon y, you now have to wait for the bite and then click the button. As nitpicky as it may sound, it gets REALLY annoying when you're fishing for any reason (fishing repeatedly is how I got a shiny basculin once) having to constantly wait for the bite. sometimes, you get a bite and don't have enough time to react.
Also if I'm being honest, the linearity destroys the adventurous feeling of the pokemon games. Let's look back to Red and Blue. There was a lot of ways to screw around with the way you do things. For example, you can beat Team Rocket out of Silph Co. as soon as you can get there (last I checked), you can either go beat Erika in Celadon City or go for the thing in Pokemon Tower, once you pass about Cerulean City, the game becomes much more open, and so many ways to explore.
Now let's look to sun and moon. is there anything like that? Hell, I've beaten pokemon Y and I can't remember many ways to explore. Its just not adventurous anymore.
Pokemon Y was fun, but Pokemon Moon, I couldn't beat. Not because of difficulty, but because it was so unenjoyable.
The biggest flaw for me though, and this may sound petty, but believe me, this gets really annoying, the HP bar drains so slowly. I remember in Y and Omega Ruby, the HP bars drain pretty quickly. I've seen in early games where a pokemon got hit hard and the HP bar drained really quick. In Moon, the HP bar drains very, very slowly, and it makes grinding a pain. There's no reason for it to feel so laggy.
That’s why, in my opinion, red and blue / fire red and leaf green are the most replayable games in the series and why I find myself constantly coming back to them. After going through rock tunnel, pretty much all of the game opens up for you to tackle in any particular order you want. No other Pokémon game does this and it really makes me sad that this kind of world design won’t ever come back in favor for linear story telling. Red and blue didn’t have a full-fledged story, other then stop team rocket from being assholes and become the champion, and somehow it feels more compelling compared to most other main series plots.
The fishing mechanic where you have to click when you get a bite has been the thing since generation 3.
@@kirin1230 hecc
@@jamesflanagan6261 Johto and Hoenn also have a similar amount of an open world. I'd say Johto is less linear compared to Kanto. In Kanto there are no locations or cities that don't have either a gym, or team rocket. Johto has a lot of random, seemingly pointless side quests which give you freedom to make your own story.
Cookie yeah but can you do your gyms in the order of 2 6 7 3 4 5 1 8 in jhoto? You can skip brock do misty so you can use cut head into rock tunnel after the boat do the rocket hideout and then rescue fuiji go get surf beat koga to use surf beat blaine do everything before the 8th gym before brock one shot his team and then challenge giovani’s gym. Leaf green fire red have way less limits caused by hms. ( meanwhile the jhoto games forces you to have a cut slave in kanto)
- Started with Gen 2
- Hated Gen 5 and Gen 7
- Thought that Gen 6 was actually not bad
Are you me?
Sorta
“Everyone’s allowed to have bad opinions” best line ever
Ok
Gen 5 music is overhyped
"The game is for kids" but more 20+ adults play it.
isn't gonna change it buddy
Not really, they are just more vocal online about it
Sun/Moon are some of my least favorite in the franchise how ever I MAJORLY disagree with your points on the exp share and telling me what moves are super effective. I find swapping pokemon constantly for exp to be extremely annoying and loved the exp share. Nor do I think difficulty should be tied to remembering every type of every pokemon. There's a ton of pokemon and some dual typings can be easily forgotten. The problem is not the exp share, the problem is that the games are intentionally made easy regardless. They could make the games more difficult with the new exp share easily, that's just not what they want to do.
What my main problem with sun/moon is is that THE GAME NEVER LEAVES ME ALONE. It does not feel like an adventure, it feels like a sight seeing tour with my friends. This sucks so much fun out of the game. Walk into a new route, cutscene, game yells at you to go 50 feet down a linear path with nothing to explore, game then interrupts you at the end of the path with ANOTHER cutscene about some insignificant shit that did not need to exist. Rise and repeat.
I think he agrees with you on the EXP share, which is why he mentioned that he thinks it should give you 50% xp per battle to one Pokemon not in battle, or 25% for two Pokemon for 16.6% for 3 Pokemon. As it is it gives you about 250% xp per battle which becomes a case of the cure being worse than the disease.
Personally I agree with him on telling you what move is supereffective is bad, I think it's fun for beginners to progress and learn all about the different type matchups naturally over a long playthrough, and it's rewarding for veterans to be able to play at a higher level.
I agree with you on your last paragraph, even Black/White and their sequels which were incredibly linear still felt like an adventure because you were free to go where you want and what interruptions they were had interesting dialogue and a compelling narrative.
JarekTheGamingDragon The type chart and the types of each Pokémon is one of the main difficulty barriers that you’re supposed to overcome in these ganes. When I play a Pokémon game for the first time and I find Pokémon I’ve never seen before, it’s fun to guess their types try out different types of attacks to test their effectiveness. Of course I don’t get that feeling anymore since I’ve played the series so much to where I pretty much know every Pokémon’s types and the full type chart, but it’s still a feeling that isn’t there in SM no matter when you play it
Preach
All these issues are easily fixed. Just give us the fucking option to skip dialogue or cutscense and give us a hard mode! Idk why gamefreak is so stubborn its not hard to add that. Like fuck they don't pay attention at all to what fans want it's bullshit
@@IceBlueLugia Actually the system in SM/USUM is such that you only know the type effectiveness for Pokemon you've met before. Granted, if you've played enough for the type chart to be ingrained to your brain like me that can easily go unnoticed since we already know them.
It's also funny to get "lied" to by the game telling you a Ground-type move is super effective on a Poison or Electric type Pokemon even when the Pokemon has Levitate
I swear to God when I first played moon I was in school with my friend and he was rushing me to make a little progress so I could battle him, the whole day it was nothing but cutscenes and tutorials and cutscenes I almost snapped my ds in half
I dont mind cutsenes
Honestly I can relate to this, I don't play pokemon pvp but there were times I got insanely frustrated with how many cutscenes there are in a row sometimes
"charizard has had enough of the spotlight"
- gamefreak, nope we need to make him the next region's champion's ace.
- everyone else, why? wouldn't it make more sense to give him an ace of that region
- gamefreak, nope
- everyone else, well okay then,
Festival Plaza was a step back in communication features.
“I hate a generation everyone likes* *black and white is one of the most hated* me: ????
I don't understand why people hate Black and White. Sure the gen 5 anime is garbage, but the games are fucking amazing.
Black and White isn’t so hated anymore
Right
Like before he showed black and white thought he was gonna show a Gen 4 game lol
@@acerbusthedarkenvtuber5684 I think that's why it's not liked as much
It's because the anime was so bad during that time that it rubbed offed on the game
And also the game(s) itself felt kinda meh
Especially when they hyped the fusion between the dragons and just kind agave us a Lame Hybrid mix of the 2/3 dragons
I had the exact same reaction. I can't take seriously the arguments of people who bash gen 5 yet claim it's one "everyone likes." Over time some more people have grown fond of it, but it's still one of, if not the most hated to this day. At least SwSh had people rallying behind it and defending it to the death. I also don't get the logic behind the "bad" anime influencing peoples' opinions of the game. The XY anime was great but I don't see anyone using that as a reason to tout the games as fantastic. Why is it that the anime's quality only influences what people think about gen 5 and not the other gens?
"I didn't get attached to my pokemon at all"
*Alolan Raichu literally became my favorite Pokemon after playing moon*
Same but with my entire party.
Same with Rowlet
i didnt even enjoy SM nearly as much as other games but god alolan raichu just stuck with me
Alolan forms are bad and we should've just gotten all new pokemon same with galarian forms No new forms, or gimmicks please please GameFreak just give me a pokemon game that just has new pokemon like gen 1-5. No gimmick just pokemon not ever design was a winner but most of them we're someone's favorite pokemon.
@@danielpruitt8550 I totally disagree with you and I'm personally offended. We get new pokemon lines every gen, but it's still fun seeing new forms of old pokemon. If you don't like them, don't use them. Nobody forced you to.
I'm someone who played the original Gold/Silver as a kid, and the last game for me was Pokemon Colosseum. Getting U-S/M so many years after, it was quite the culture shock. When people say Whitney and Claire were hard, we're talking thousand-year stare levels of "WAR...IS HELL". There were so many nail-biting moments, but I was the idiot who chose chikorita--and I'll stick by my chikorita. ;/ Then I got Ultra Moon.
I was so thankful for the exp share, truth be told, because I remember how frustrating it was to only have a Prima strategy guide to look at for the longest time in order to get help. GameFAQs wouldn't become as popular for GS for quite some time when I was a kid.
You're right about the hand-holding, though, even as I say I was more-so thankful for the PokePelago. Once I got an inklay with contrary, a grubbin, mimikyu and trevanent, I practically blitzed through the game.
Maybe it's because my sensibilities are different from way back when, but my impression of most of the characters save for a few of them is that they all blend together. I could hardly tell Kukui from Hau or a good majority of the major characters because they seemed so..."cheerful and gung-ho", if that makes any sense? I could easily pick up the bigwigs of the Aether Foundation, Nanu, Hapu, and Nina because they had more distinction to me. Probably because they were mostly subdued compared to everyone else.
I absolutely hated the mc, and wished I could be more dickish. I guess that would also be a programming nightmare too.
Loved Rotom's functions, couldn't stand Rotom. Many of the other features like the scanning, trading and the like were wonderful additions as well.
What I liked about Team Skull is that they seemed to be the leftovers of the failures of the trial system in Alola. It seems like there's quite the stigma attached to people who can't pass the trials, if I'm correctly assuming the case about Team Skull. The townspeople don't even seem to regard them as a genuine threat for the most part. At best, I thought they were very "[cue 1950's stock music' Oh, you silly scamps! *waggles finger*]". I was far more intrigued by that, and it's a shame the game didn't go too much further than surface level. I think we missed out on some good storytelling, because I can see that being a very valuable lesson for kids (and adults, I guess, from a pokemon game).
The Aether Foundation was the closest thing to a "good" organization in my experience, had Faba not gotten greedy and Lusamine not been taken over by that poison.
Where Kanto and Johto seemed more reliant on people for the inner workings of society to some extent, the Alolan Islands seemed to hinge on how auspicious and battle-eager the Tapu are. Since the Tapu gods are more tangible to the average Alolan in some capacity, it made them much scarier to me how intimate they were with the Alolan and how fragile life was on those islands. With the legendary birds and dogs, they generally kept their distance from people. If a god was made manifest in my hometown and said "you have to fight, and please me with your fighting to get my good graces", I'd move to another region. Ain't messin' with that.
I can see why a lot of people don't like the ultra beasts. I'm mixed on them as well. Being able to travel to the world were you can see guzlord still eating everything then showing up was kinda scary to me. And then the ultra beasts lose their flavor with staka-whatever invading those post-game plains.
Team Rainbow Rocket just...eh.
I'm still waiting for an item to block trainer battles, but I think I that might be asking for something that goes against the game. Sometimes, I just want to scope out the area without unwanted battles.
I enjoyed the addition of telling the type effectiveness because I have a very poor memory and I don’t like looking up the type table every fight
Yeah I think his opinion on that is pretty terrible. In this day and age, people are gonna look up the type table on their phone anyway, so why not just put it in there? Knowing what is super effective alone is not going to win your battles for you, especially if you have poor type coverage in your team, movesets that don't fit your pokemon, etc...
He also left out the fact that YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THIS UNLESS THE POKEMON IS ALREADY IN YOUR POKEDEX!!! Meaning that the first time you fight a new pokemon you have to fight it blind unless you have the type chart memorized AND you looked up the pokemon's type.
@@spade4acer See, the problem is that the information of telling you what's supereffective is totally unearned.
Let's say you encounter a Pyukumuku in the wild. You're probably thinking that it's Rock type, so you use only Ground type moves against it and it faints. The next time you encounter another Pyukumuku, not only does it tell you the effectiveness of the type you used last time, but it also tells you the effectiveness of types you haven't used against it yet. Why is the game telling me everything it's weak and strong against if I haven't used those types of moves or caught Pyukumuku?
What they should have done is go the Persona/Shin Megami Tensei route and have the type effectiveness be displayed only if you either caught the Pokemon or used that type of move against the Pokemon before. Showing that information without doing anything to earn it just oversimplifies the games to the point where you can legitimately beat them only by looking at the bottom screen. That and having a pointless map with markers on the bottom screen despite the game design be oversimplified to the point of never being lost.
I also didn’t like it. I bought it, and I stopped using it after playing for about 20-30 hours. I just came back to the game, 3 years later. Finally completed, and it’s actually not that bad now. I don’t know, but somehow, my mind changed into liking this game.
I had the same experience. Stopped playing it after the second trial or so because it felt odd and didn't have the pokemon charm. Then years later, I came back fresh and played it all the way through and ended up enjoying it for what it is. By no means is it one of my favourites, but it was unique to the classic formula.
30:35 I gotta disagree with you on this. It looks like Lillie for a reason. It's because Lusamine always picked out Lillies clothes and so she made Lillie look like an ultra beast. So there *is* a reason they look similiar, at least those two.
Yeah. And Lusamine styled herself after Pheromosa. But how do you explain Guzma looking like Xurkitree or Hala looking like Guzzlord (and Sophocles looking like Shiny Guzzlord)? I hate how this was never explained, a lot of potential wasted.
@@spade4acer the aesthetic
@@spade4acer the similarities outside of lillies family are just similarities I think.
Honestly, the main reason why I like how the game tells you about move effectiveness in battle is because I run Hidden Power on some of my mons, and I can't for the life of me remember what type of Hidden Power they have. And I still keep forgetting about what types resist Fairy and what types Fairy resists.
Fairy resist Dragon. Poison and Steel are super effective against Fairy
Honestly the only hard battle in SM and USUM was that teacher that was like, your tenth battle ever
Alolan Meowth was easy but that Magnemite was a Real Problem if you chose Popplio or Rowlet as your Starter.
felt more difficult in usum...(choose popplio but originally picked rowlet) the ace trainer with the muk though...always tough
i mean ultra necrozma.....
Gladion's theme is actually a remix of "Run Away, Fugitives" from Mystery Dungeon, because he is a fugitive running away from Lusamine. Simple and clever.
Damn I agree on pretty much of all of this, especially the part about feeling like you were the only person that didn’t really like it. Great video dude.
I’m still a huge Pokémon fan, but more so because of the individual Pokémon and their designs, I really enjoy analyzing them and learning about all the lore and influence that goes into making them. I’ll even go as far as to say Pokémon designs are better now then they have been in previous generations.
But the games need themselves need to undergo some serious changes.
The biggest change I would like to see is a greater emphasis on exploration and length. These past few generations have had some thoroughly disappointing post games, not to mention everything feels so, small, I feel like these areas have so little to explore in them. And that can make these regions feel very small by proxy. Gen 8 had the right idea with the wild areas, but that just results in everything outside the wild areas feeling even smaller.
My other complaints seem to mirror the rest of the fandom’s. GameFreak removing things that people really like, the games being super hand-holdy, the graphics being sub-par, the games coming out too close back to back, the characters, plot, and writing being weak depending on who you ask.
In my opinion, the lack of depth and exploration is what really makes the newer games less then what they could be but should they fix that, as well as fixing all the other stuff mentioned above, I think there is a chance that Pokémon could continue to be good. I’m somewhat skeptical but also somewhat optimistic.
I would gladly shell out $150 for Gen 9 when it comes out as long as I can have everything that was cut from Gen 8. They could still have DLC that is expensive but I just would rather pay once and done to have 1000 plus mon’s than pay for the uncertainty that Pokémon Home will be around by the time I can transfer. What will happen to them if I accidentally miss a payment or find myself in a situation where I don’t have internet outside of my iPhone data (sorry Samsung fans I prefer my terrible iPhone 6S that is somehow faster than my husband’s newest model Samsung Galaxy phone and has convinced him to get one when he can). I don’t trust having my Pokémon data that I have collected from the years being in a “cloud based” storage unless I can put them into a physical or digital copy of my game. I don’t feel good about cloud storage and streaming games (what if it fails like Google Stadia??? All that wasted money).
Hear me out. The next core Pokémon made should be made by Monolith Soft, with a similar design philosophy they use with the Xenoblade games. The core games should honestly just be given to them. IMAGINE a Pokémon game with the world design philosophy of Xenoblade 1 and/or 2. I leave X out because it's so different.
@@princesspikachu3915 But iPhones are so damn limited. They're terrible phones for more complex use. I have 10 emulators, 12 consoles total(My OldBoy!, Dolphin), and there's no jailbreaking needed.
TheAbsol That’d be pretty cool. Like I said, I play Pokémon for the Pokémon themselves, so as long as the focus is on them, I’m down for taking influence from newer, arguably better designed RPGs.
TheAbsol I should clarify I have no experience with Xenoblade specifically, however, I’ve heard nothin but great things about it, so I’ll take your word for it that it would be great in combination with Pokémon.
God I hated like 90% of the cutscenes.
I was at the end of the third island when I finally asked myself: When did I leave the tutorial?
Daan Strik you didn’t. The whole game was one big tutorial. I liked these games but all the cutscenes takes away replay value
If pokemon wants to succeed, the NUMBER 1 thing it must do, become non-linear and get rid of the gimmicky antagonistic teams. What I have seen with Gen7/8, it’s just a reskin of XY but with a cool gimmick. You essentially do the same thing you did in the last generation. Get starter, beat gyms, defeat bad guy, win Pokemon league. Gen8 with Sw/Sh expands on this with extremely tedious linear progression and a basic bad-guy team. This time around you don’t even get the legendary pokemon until the very end when the game is complete. When I got to the pokemon league I thought I just wasn’t getting any legendary Pokemon, which was dumb because they were held to such high standards. Then I got them. Then I put down the game.
Pokemon needs to throw away the linear progression and different gimmicks if they want people to keep playing their games. Or if they did, at least make it interesting. The power-moves and massive, strong Pokemon didn’t really interest me. Because both already happened with Mega-Evolution. It was revolutionary for pokemon, only to be thrown away in the next generation.
> When you got to the hall of fame how attached were you to-
Bold of you to assume I played that far into the game.
I appreciated the red flag telling me where to go, it made it easier to just go to the objective and finish this shitty game as soon as possible.
Had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
I don’t know if you knew, but Gladion’s theme is a remix of “Runway/ Fugitives theme” from Pokémon mystery dungeon red/ blue rescue team. Fits pretty well if you ask me. Also mystery dungeon games have the best soundtracks of all the Pokémon games don’t @ me
That's actually really cool!
It’s unfortunate how much I agree with most of this video, I’ve long accepted that Sun/Moon were my least favourite main entries, and USUM don’t do nearly enough to repair that... but there really are that many problems huh? I certainly wouldn’t say I hate it, at the end of the day it is a Pokémon game doing Pokémon things, it’s just less favourable for me. The only thing I really disagree with you on is the difficulty. It feels like because you played with the EXP Share off, you’ve taken the assumption that turning it on would make the game easy, but I don’t find that to be true. I hit obstacles with things like Lurantis even with the EXP Share on, and sure enough, I even lost to the champion on my first go! Granted I don’t think I had six Pokémon, but I honestly found this to be the most challenging entry since Platinum, and USUM goes way beyond that (hello Necrozma)
Certainly I’ll look forward to the full Sword/Shield thoughts at some point in the future!
I've played both with the Exp. Share on AND off, had I not I wouldn't felt within my rights to say that the game isn't balanced around you playing with it off. In fact I'm pretty sure I've played through it twice with the Exp. Share on and I stand by what I said, I still personally feel that the games are ridiculously easy to a pretty silly extent with the Exp. Share on :P
Regardless though thank for your kind comments and support! :)
I still hate Sword and Shield more for feeling like they truly stripped every bit of exploration from the games, by making every single route a linear hallway, and not even having a few secret areas like Sun and Moon did. The insistence on still having tons of text, for characters that i didn’t care about in Sword and Shield compared to ones I actually did in Sun and Moon made me remember how much more I enjoyed the story of Sun and Moon.
I enjoyed sun and moons characters and pokemon designs so much more than xy. Im glad the anime adapted the better parts of the games intp it
Its my second favorite in the series before b&w and pokke
Another thing I didn’t like about this game is the tour guide/friend group. In previous gens, you get your Pokémon and set out on your own! No friends telling you where to go, you pick a direction and just go. Hate that today games always have a friend with you. Just let me explore!
I remember playing heart gold and getting stuck at Ice Road. I had no idea you had to push the stones down the holes. So I just grinded Frelgatr to level 75 until I found out what to do 😅 I was a very dumb kid, but it felt really good getting past that area and just sweeping the game
Me and a friend were stuck in the same area, but in GBC's Gold Version.
We were like age of 10.
Somehow, after a week we managed to get out XD
Our Thyplosion wasn't at level 75 but it was a pretty awsome experience.
i laughed my ass off when you said that you couldnt help but take the legendary with you because i literally boxed it instantly because i didnt give a flying FRICK about it whatsoever. really liked the video though, props :)
only took them when i was young, be now, it's basically hey, you want to destroy the game from this point on, take this overpowered pokemon and have fun
so yeah, insta box for most of them instantly
@@xdCloudxd1996 I know exactly what you mean. Legendary Pokemon that you get during the main game are often powerful enough to make the rest of the game easier by having them in your party. This is on top of the fact that if you already have a full party of 6 Pokemon that you have been raising up until that point, it can be difficult to choose to give up on one of them so you can include the new overpowered legendary Pokemon instead.
I only keep the legendaries with me that i really like and enjoy the design. So far, that's limited to Lugia, Yveltal, Reshiram, Kyurem and alt-form Zekrom. And even then, half the time they're boxxed because I value my original teams far more, and I just prefer a challenge. It's a lot more fun if they give them to you after the entire main game and elite four are defeated like in B/W2.
ew mayonnaise I don’t like kyurem, especially it other form, look like it’s from a rom hack and not a Pokémon game freak actually made
well that's just you. some legendaries are so cool you can't help but use them. dialga, ho-oh, reshiram, groudon, xerneas, solgaleo... and yes even zacian. if you value difficulty then yes you should box them but I'm the kind of person who wants the easiest game possible so using legendaries is enjoyable
I remember when the games were announced to be based on islands I had hoped we'd get to surf and explore between them. I remember loving exploration in windwaker or RSE or finding the Whirl Islands in Crystal
i mean tbf we did get mantine surf but thats about it and it is exclusive to the ultra games soo
@@noishfanboy1141 😂
I'm sure I'm not the first to say this, but you did yourself a favor for skipping the Ultra games. If you didn't like Sun and Moon, oh boy, the Ultra games did it worst (for me anyways)
What's worse about the ultra games, are they much more difficult? Because i had a really hard time in ultra sun unlike any other pokemon game. The totems are real bastards!
Matthew Berrios it really depends on your team and if you know what's coming, people who've played it know what I'm talking about
@@MattKimura It was really the story that got butchered in my opinion. They kept elements of the story of Sun and Moon when the Ultra games were doing something else. Where Ultra fixed, other elements of the games were unnecessary or neglected. The greatest example is Lusemine and Nebby. The team still made Lusemine go insane of blind justice to help another world, and to abuse Nebby to gain access to Ultramegaopolis. Then later on, it turns out that the members of the Ulta Recon Squad ALREADY had a Solgaleo/Lunala as a means of transportation between Alola and their homeworld. It is because of that fact that makes Lusemine's betrayal and abuse of Nebby and Lilly absolutley pointless. Lusemine had no interest in the Ultra Beasts in the Ultra games. All she wanted was to stop Necrozma from destroying the homeworld of the Ultra Recon Squad and Alola. That is my biggest gripe with the Ultra games. There are improvements that the games did make with some of the trials. Sophocles' trial is more interesting than a quiz game, but the other trials weren't really that much more interesting as they were much of the same. From the trailers leading to the Ultra games, I thought we were getting hints of new trials and boss battles. An example of that was Lycanroc in one trailer. It looked bigger because of the angle and it was glowing with the aura normally seen with totem Pokémon, BUT it turns out to be an exclusive z-move that was ultimately given to the player with no fan fair by Hau.
Speaking of totem Pokemon, I thought we would see more of the idea of exclusive boss battles between the two games like with the first totem battle with Gumshoos in Sun and Raticate in Moon. Granted there were some battles that were changed from Sun and Moon such as Araqunid from Wishiwashi and Marowak from Salazzle, but I figured we would get new trials alongside new battles. Another trailer, for example, showed us an interaction with Kahili where the Flynium Z crystal is though for a brief moment. That clip of the game gave the impression that things are definitely different this time around compared to Sun and Moon and we would see new trials and battles. Back on track, however, I thought Game Freak would expand on the idea like Gumshoos/Raticate boss battle. Initially, with Sun and Moon I'd figure the idea would be constant throughout the Island Trial. A couple of examples of this idea would be Wishiwashi for Sun and Araquid for Moon, and Luarantis for Sun and Shiinotic for Moon.
Lastly, the difficulty of the Ultra games are not my issue with them. It is nice to have a challenge every once and a while. Lurantis still kicked my team back to the Pokémon Center a couple of times and it was fine because it made me think that I can just brute force the battle with my Torracat. As for Necrozma, it is the biggest difficulty spike of Pokémon since Evice from Pokémon Colosseum. Even with having a Metagross on my first playthrough was unable to tank the not effective hits. I didn't mind it. The music is great and atmosphere of the battle was great. Unfortunately, however, not the stakes. As before I entered the Ultra Wormhole leading to Necrozma, I flew off elsewhere for some reason, and was welcomed with the worm Alola sun as if nothing was happening. This is not the first time something like this happens in the series though. On a side tangent, Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald on the GBA did the same thing with the intense heat and constant drizzling affecting some of Hoenn and not all of it. I still remember as a a kid, I would fly back to LittleRoot Town to check on my mom to see how she is doing during the weather crisis only to see that everything before Mossdeep was untouched so I would sigh with relief.
This may be a mouthful, but I hope I got my point across somewhat. If you still like the games, that's fine. You still have your opinion. I will just be visiting Sun and Moon more often that the Ultra games. (Also, Ultramegaopolis was a waste of time and potential)
In my opinion the ultra games are the best remake. And people tend to ignore gen 7s music.
@@blui3609 Oh no, the soundtrack is great. That is one of the positives of the Ultra games
When I first played Sun, I was impressed by the game having an actual plot and cutscenes the whole way through. However, when I played Ultra Sun I realized how bad it makes the game. They have no replay value, and it really does feel like walking from room to room and having an NPC talk to you in each one.
eh...in USUM it was still good to me. walking from room to room and having a npc talk to you? isn't that like all the pokemon buildings really?
@@Jdudec367 I mean that even the outside works that way in sun and moon. There is always exactly one place that you can go next, and you never really have the ability to explore that places, as it's very small
I can agree that the story is a little toned down, so it’s not as good.
But I kind of see Ultra Sun as The Definitive Aloha Playthrough, it’s much harder and not a toddlers game.
It has WAY more post game, and the post game is one of the best In the whole Pokémon Series.
Sure it’s very very Linear, but that’s kind of how I like Pokémon, Exploration was never my thing for Pokémon.
I mainly played Pokémon because of My Team in the game, and the just the game itself.
Though saying it has no replay value is kinda strange, I first played the game a year ago, then just started playing it yesterday, and had the same Charm.
If you ever want to replay a game, I recommend when you forget most bits, so a few months or a year.
Though that could just be me, Pokémon Sun and Moon though are VERY EASY.
So I don’t feel very accomplished when I beat it, I feel like: “Oh hey finally I beaten this damn game”
I don’t feel happy or excited or well accomplished, because the game was so easy.
When you beat Ultra Sun and Moon, YOU FEEL VERY ACOMPLISHED, you just went through some very hard trials, Ultra Necrozma for fucks Sake,
and a I guess tough Elite Four.
The Post game too is very hard too, unlike SwSh, The story is bad, it’s hilariously easy, and the replay value IS HORRIBLE.
I replayed it on April 3rd 2021, a year after I played it, AND I COULDN’T EVEN GET PAST THE TUTORIAL BEFORE GETTING SO BORED.
Ultra Sun and Moon are definitely my cup of tea, and favorite 3D Pokémon game right now.
Though I could understand your opinion.
@@iloveicecream9017 If someone hadn't played any gen 7 games, I'd tell them to play ultra sun for sure, that's very true
@@yat282 You never played the OG red and blue. Ultra sun and moon are complete garbage and absolute disgrace to Pokemon. Trash story, bad designed mons, no freedom to explore, the game just tells you what to do next. It's terrible. I can't believe the games got this bad since the OG red and blue. I mean gen 2, hoenn games and HG SS were classics but everything else is just complete garbage. I feel sad that people don't like the Pokemon in older days when it was so much better
Gen 7 is my favorite but it’s always nice to hear people’s opinions, different then mines or not🙂👍
I loved gen 7 too bro and ultra sun and moon isn't easy
@@mono475 I think ultra is what gen 7 should have been in the first place, despite its flaws. But yeah, gen 7 is awesome.
@@lukefitton7329 ultra sun is perfect in every way except for the story. they completely destroyed it
@@Misimi agree, gets way too much hate
I respect your opinion bro👊 nice to see a rational fan other than crazy defenders
I didn't know this at first but the reason why Trials are so odd is because they were supposedly a last minute addition since they realized they didn't have gyms they had to supplement it with a puzzle for every totem.
Speaking on the exp share, after realizing how easy it made xy, I decided to play the game with a team of 18 Pokemon. 3 full teams rotated out throughout the game. And my party still ended up like 1 level over everything.
I didn't use it in USUM and I had to actually grind a few times
I did that on my first S/V playthrough because I couldn't choose only 6 Pokemon.
The first pokemon game I couldn’t finish, as a matter of fact by the second island I was done, it felt like a chore to see all those lame ass cutscenes. The constant handholding was on an all time high and I’m not gonna play any new Pokémon games as long as this is part of it
I read this in Carltons voice
You asked the question "did any of you have a moment in this game where your pokemon got a critical hit at a decisive moment in a hard battle, and that's what got you the win," and I saw your Decidueye look back at you... It reminded me that the Pokemon Refresh functionality in this game blatantly gives your pokemon an unfair advantage where it increases the likelihood of getting crits "because they wanted to try hard for you!" or surviving an attack with 1 HP "because they were worried about you." The affection thing is just pure gamebreaking fake garbage, trying to manufacture moments like those because the design cannot do it naturally.
Your reaction to these games was exactly mine, too. Sun & Moon made me realize I don't like new Pokemon games anymore. Guess I should be thankful it made me realize it early, because it's saved me a lot of money the past few years.
Did anyone else really not like Nebby/the get in the bag meme?
I absolutely hated it
Yeah it isn’t funny at All
Ever since gen 6 I just turn off exp share. It's basically a baby lock.
That's what I did for Sun and Moon, but it's locked on in Sword and Shield. You can't turn it off.
I haven't even bought those games.
@@trumpeterjen They balanced it out though.
@@BlackSalamander439 There's no good reason to take an option away from a player. No one has ever picked up a video game and said, "Aw, sweet! I don't get to choose anymore!"
Also, Pokemon don't level up at the same rate. A permanent Exp. Share makes it essentially impossible to keep your team members at the same level, which is one of the reasons I never liked it.
The only thing I used it for was EV training.
@@trumpeterjen so much agreement on my part. like, first they force you to catch the legendary (starting with BW), then they force you to turn on the exp share, whats next, taking away the arguably freest choice (the starter)? gen 9 they're just gonna say "three starters? nope mate we just got this fire starter here take it or leave it" lmao
@@TrigramThunder Game Freak in Gen 9, probably: "For a starter, you can have Charizard, Blaziken, OR this new Fire-type starter we're adding. Instead of being Fire/Fighting, it's Fighting/Fire! Also, the new Pokedex only has 25 Pokemon. Please understand"
i just recently found your channel and i'm going through a bunch of your videos, but i must say i completely agree on how easy these games are getting, making them more "accessible" is turning these games into a children's electronic story book, something that just tells you the story and finishes each page by even telling you to turn the page,
i would love an open world style pokemon game, with actual exploration, not just a series of hallways where even the most out of the way areas are just a screen or two away and already have people there, it's just so dull
Main changes I would've implemented:
- island challenges not being linear
- ultra space being part of the post-game, similar to how you explore a whole new region in some of the earlier pokemon games. The two accessible rooms for the story have a roadblock that you can't move for whatever reason during that story portion, and then there's a logical reason during the post-game the roadblock can be removed, and then there's an interesting ultra-space area for you to explore to aid in research or something
- The poke ride uses alolan pokemon instead of taurus and charizard etc. That would make it make sense in terms of the world building of alola; as soon as you introduce other region's pokemon, it becomes a question of 'then why is this not a thing in other regions'. Would've been more neat to make it exclusive to alolan pokemon
The whole thing about Rotom Dex? The unending "staccato" style cutscenes (cutscene, walk two steps, cutscene, walk to steps, cutscene...)? The total lack of meaningful exploration and optional paths? The complete _tube-like_ nature of progression? The never-ending interruptions by NPCs in every single location in the game?
*_Yeah. THAT is what made me get downright ANGRY at this game. I couldn't finish it._*
Bro I’ve found your channel recently and ITS A GEM. I’m currently watching this vid, then XY, and BW cuz you told me to go back :o
The Battle Screen telling which moves are Super Effective is to remind me that Kommo-O isn't a Rock Type because dear Christ it looks like 1.
I didn't have problems with Totem Lurantis at all but the Champion Kukui fight clapped my team over 20 times.
A lot of pokemon don't look their type starting from this gen, especially the Ultra Beasts.
But that's why you catch one to find out what type it is and look at the Pokedex if you forget. You're not supposed to know these creatures going into it, and there have always been Pokemon who didn't look like their types until they evolved. I had no idea what the hell to do the first time I looked at Pokemon like Drapion or Armaldo. I didn't even know Oddish was part Poison when I first looked at it.
You're supposed to get better at it the more you play the games. The best teacher is experience.
@@rhowiththeflow3889 It doesn't matter when it tells you. It's still babying you. If you play enough, you'll learn what they are. If someone plays a Pokemon game longer than I do and learns their type matchups and Pokemon typings better than I do, then of course they should be a better player than I am. You're supposed to reward players for knowing shit about the game, not shove a cheat sheet in everyone's face. They don't even let you turn the damn thing off.
If you didn't know what type your opponent was in battle, you can look it up afterward. That's what the Pokedex is for.
I can't tell you how many times I beat someone in an online battle even though I was using mid-tier Pokemon against their legendaries, just because I knew my type matchups and they didn't. Game Freak has taken away the satisfaction of winning by skill and dedication. That's inexcusable.
@@trumpeterjen skill and dedicaton is still there I just found what they did to be convenient
@@Jdudec367 How in the world is the skill and dedication still there? It takes away every advantage that dedicated players have rightfully earned. Hell, Generation VIII is more centralized than ever now that they cut more than half of the National Dex, so you won't even see that many different Pokemon when you're battling.
There's no reason a beginner should be on the same level as a seasoned veteran when it comes to type matchups. What do you think experience is for? If you don't like it, just play the game to get better like everyone else did before Sun and Moon. Isn't the point of playing the game to get better at an activity you enjoy?
the only things I actually like about this gen is a few characters and character designs (team skull, golf lady, painter lady, prof) the Pokémon, and the region. Everything else is either just passable, not good, or poorly designed in my opinion.
My biggest problem with sun in Moon is actually related to what you said at 3:25 where you said that it is “all about Lillie” because it is really all about her and her family and not at all about you. I felt like I was just being forced into their family drama and by the end of the game I really didn’t feel like the hero of the story, I felt like I had just intruded on this girl’s personal life.
I mean tbf i would prefer that over us being the main character because we would probably just be a silent protagonist and the story would be kinda boring if we were the main character
I have a huge problem when games have a big disconnect between gameplay and story. You don't do anything to help Lillie; you just watch cut-scenes of you helping her.
RSE - Fight the Poochyena in a battle to save Prof Birch.
DP - Fight the Starly that ambush you in a battle.
SM - Watch a cut-scene of you fighting Spearow to save Lillie.
A straight-up downgrade in enjoyment.
This is why I really didn't care for Lillie's story.
@@noishfanboy1141 This is an issue I have with Pokemon Colloseum. Wes could've been a cool character, but turning him into a silent self-insert protagonist is dumb.
I think we underestimate children way too much, children like games when they are challenging too and we also don't need to dunb down movies/series because they are "just childrens movies"
When I was a kid, I was proud about knowing all the type advantages etc. Even though they weren't written out in the game
I played Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon without playing the originals, and I really liked them. I agree with the soundtrack thing a lot, there's only one or two songs that I really liked. I personally loved the ultra beast designs, and Primarina literally became my all-time favorite pokemon. But damn, is there a lot of dialogue and hand-holding.
What I did to avoid overleveling with the xp share was just rotate my party members a lot. I ended up with like 10 potential fighters and a bunch of pokemon evolved just for the dex.
Kinda same, I definitely swapped out several pokemon during the playthrough and even boxed my starter like midway through the game. I think the exp share makes it much easier to level up straggling pokemon more quickly, especially pokemon that have just hatched from eggs. Imo this is pretty important bc having to deal with an underleveled pokemon on your team is super annoying in the older games.
I actually did not find the game to be extra easy at all and maybe this is because I messed around a bit with training different pokemon but at the same time, my pokemon went from overleveled to normally leveled once I reached the third island and weren't overleveled again.
14:19
I mean, I had a moment when I beat Totem Vikavolt with my Delibird lol
I hated how Sun & Moon were Lillies' story and giving us ZERO reason for existing. I love Lillie but why am I not PLAYING as her? I connect far more with RPGs when assuming a character in-universe as opposed to an avatar of my own creation. That would have been awesome to play as a weak girl who starts out scared of her own shadow grow into her own person over the game and the whole structure of "trials" really play into the theme of growing into an adult who is capable. Such wasted potential.
There's a massive lack of end-game content (nothing new, it's Pokemon).
2. The story pacing is awful; it's especially bad since you can't skip the lengthy cutscenes.
3. The online features are obtuse as hell. A million games in and you can't set stakes or clauses.
4. Generic z-moves are ok but the Pokemon-specific ones are a huge waste of resources.
5. They failed to expand on Mega-evolutions. This is like introducing abilities but then giving up on adding them.
6. Difficulty is nowhere to be seen (again, nothing new). This could be easily remedied at low cost.