Working with Gongs #1: Gongs & Mallets

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @Sockfullapoo
    @Sockfullapoo 5 лет назад +154

    I have never wanted to know anything about gongs, but here I am.

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  5 лет назад +9

      And so you are…

    • @eongxien
      @eongxien 5 лет назад +3

      Sock fullapoo I’m guessing RUclips recommendation brought us here.

    • @Sockfullapoo
      @Sockfullapoo 5 лет назад +1

      @@Gongtopia I'm glad I ended up here! Very interesting video!

    • @whiskyweasal89
      @whiskyweasal89 5 лет назад +1

      Sock fullapoo lol. I was thinking “man you mean someone was interested enough in the gong to spend years mastering it?” What if film director sought this guy out from far and wide because he is the gong guru and paid him thousands of bucks for his time?

    • @whiskyweasal89
      @whiskyweasal89 5 лет назад +1

      eongxien yeah, this must have been recommended because I watched to many drumming videos.

  • @WORLDDRUMCLUB
    @WORLDDRUMCLUB 5 лет назад +4

    Nice video - Thank you for helping support our global community of drummers and percussionists.

  • @68PieceDrumKit
    @68PieceDrumKit 13 лет назад +6

    Wealth of knowledge and so generous to share with everybody! You are the best Michael! Marty F.

  • @soyoonakim
    @soyoonakim 6 лет назад +14

    I am a composer, and watching this to learn about Gong. Thank you very much! It is really helpful!!

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  6 лет назад +1

      I'm very glad you found this video helpful. Thanks!

  • @darrinpennington
    @darrinpennington 4 года назад +2

    Pretty amazing you can get all of those different sounds just by using different playing tools

  • @brainwashingdetergent4322
    @brainwashingdetergent4322 5 лет назад +3

    When I here the sound coming from the gong, I imagine the gong’s face as a body of water, and the strike of the mallet is like a stone being thrown into the water, with the sound coming from the peaks and valleys of the waves interacting with each other.

  • @elsaanndo7720
    @elsaanndo7720 2 года назад +1

    Great video. You are very creative and talented. Thank you. Please have more video.

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  2 года назад

      I try to have a new video every week. Thanks for your comment.

  • @lauraroberts2250
    @lauraroberts2250 4 года назад

    Loved how you used knitting needles! Brought back memories of my first drumming experience as a toddler with pan kids and knitting needles!

  • @lancethrustworthy
    @lancethrustworthy 5 лет назад +19

    Cool! Good demonstration! I've always wondered how 'Paiste' was pronounced.

  • @stephenanthonythomas3533
    @stephenanthonythomas3533 3 года назад

    I loved the Pro Mark Tubz! Wish they still made those. Great video, learned a lot.🙏💯

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  3 года назад

      The closest thing I've found are the long plastic tubes that fit into a golf bag so you can separate your clubs. They are a bit thinner, but you can cut the tube in half and cut off the folded over end.

  • @Kohntarkosz
    @Kohntarkosz 12 лет назад +2

    Thanks for using the tubz! I saw Wertico credited with using those on The Sign Of Four, the album he did with Pat Metheny, Derek Bailey, and Gregg Bendian. I've been wondering for the last 15 years what those were.

  • @marendenison3550
    @marendenison3550 5 лет назад +6

    I didn’t know there were so many subtleties to gongs. I thought you just whacked it with a big mallet and that was it.

    • @aaronmayhew6106
      @aaronmayhew6106 5 лет назад

      Me neither. i was supposed learn about gongs today I guess. lol

  • @SallyJoViolin
    @SallyJoViolin 3 года назад

    This is really helpful information, thank you!

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  3 года назад

      You’re welcome! I’m glad you found something helpful.

  • @MolnarPohdap
    @MolnarPohdap 5 лет назад +3

    Wow, this video has been a vast store of information, many thanks! Question: years ago at my undergrad school we performed George Crumb’s Ancient Voices of Children. At the climax of the final movement, it calls for the gong to be hit with a chimes mallet - and the dynamic is at least fff. Our percussionists were so alarmed by the sound, that they could hardly bring themselves to use that mallet! Your raising the issue of possibly damaging the gong with too hard a stroke with too hard a mallet makes me wonder: what would the the safest hard mallet to use on the gong for that moment in that piece?

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  5 лет назад +1

      That's a good question. While using a chime mallet may have obtained the sound Crumb wanted, I doubt he took into consideration the effect it would physically have on the Gong. As for what else to use, a lot depends on the type and size of Gong used. Hitting a Paiste Gong with a chime mallet at fff may dent it, while hitting a Chinese Chau Gong may crack it.
      The one good thing is that it’s for a small ensemble, so fff would not have to be that loud to project over the ensemble. I would probably use a hard yarn Gong mallet on a 24”-32” Gong, and try not to completely lay into the Gong when striking it.

  • @tombiby5892
    @tombiby5892 5 лет назад +5

    "It's hard to excite the whole face of the gong...with a tiny mallet."

  • @grantholland421
    @grantholland421 Год назад

    Exciting!

  • @harryschaefer8563
    @harryschaefer8563 5 лет назад

    Thanks for the master class. I learned a lot from you. Does anyone make a "sizzle gong" like a sizzle cymbol with rivets placed around the perimeter resulting in a long sustain?

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  5 лет назад +1

      I don't know of any commercial 'sizzle' Gongs, but I have added rivets to one of my Gongs to get that sort of effect. I've also hung different types of metal chains across them to create a 'sizzling' sound.

  • @whiskyweasal89
    @whiskyweasal89 5 лет назад

    I’d like to see how low you can get frequencies on that gong. What would happen if you hit it with something the size of a beach ball but a little bit harder?

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  5 лет назад

      Whisky Weasal - Something that big would over power a gong that size. Besides, it’s more how you play it that determines the sound/note/frequency…

  • @VideoNOLA
    @VideoNOLA 5 лет назад

    How is music for concert gong notated on the staff? Does it include instructions for which type of mallet to use and/or where and how hard to strike?

    • @Fishermhm
      @Fishermhm 5 лет назад

      Typically, yes, the composer will have instructions on which mallet is best for use. But, if it doesnt, It's up to the sensitivity of the percussionist to decide what mallet and stroke best fits the music.

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  5 лет назад

      Yes to all the above. It is often notated on the standard 5-line staff. Details beyond that are at the composer's discretion. Some composers offer very detailed notes as to mallets and where/how to strike the Gong. Contemporary percussion music can get quite detailed at times. Yet there is much music where only the actual notes are indicated, with everything else being left up to the performer.

  • @SamChaneyProductions
    @SamChaneyProductions 5 лет назад +11

    This is useful information, but for a video that's all about tones it's a shame that it was recorded with such poor audio quality.

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  5 лет назад +6

      Sam Chaney - Well, this was recorded 8 or 9 years ago with a very basic setup (direct to a camcorder/tape - no external mics), so it was pretty good for its time. I wish it was better too, but I did the best I could at the time. Take what info works for you from it…

    • @mrMacMilli2000
      @mrMacMilli2000 5 лет назад

      @@Gongtopia info is on point

  • @aaronmayhew6106
    @aaronmayhew6106 5 лет назад +2

    I had no idea gongs were so complex. no wonder Danny Carrey from Tool has a huge gong i should've known. lol

  • @mikemonkeyz
    @mikemonkeyz 5 лет назад

    Damn... The stuff i watch at 2am... thanks recommended :P

  • @jaysen2200
    @jaysen2200 5 лет назад

    What a fucking gong show !

  • @dmomcilovic9185
    @dmomcilovic9185 5 лет назад +4

    Toilet brush?

  • @Gongtopia
    @Gongtopia  12 лет назад +3

    Actually, Paul Wertico 'invented' the TUBZ - he's a creative guy. Thanks for the comment! - MB

  • @dannnnny86
    @dannnnny86 5 лет назад +10

    test your might

  • @alexse7266
    @alexse7266 5 лет назад

    Агни-хотры?)

  • @omarcortes1459
    @omarcortes1459 5 лет назад

    Sound halo!

  • @keithdavis4626
    @keithdavis4626 5 лет назад +1

    Bang a gong get it on

  • @hommerecorder7003
    @hommerecorder7003 5 лет назад

    great sice paiste gong. 32

  • @airbrushingbynick6071
    @airbrushingbynick6071 5 лет назад +1

    Gong with the Wind.

  • @mientaytoanbui8724
    @mientaytoanbui8724 5 лет назад

    Ok

  • @matthewsaxman1028
    @matthewsaxman1028 5 лет назад +1

    Isn't this a tam tam?

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  5 лет назад +1

      'Tam tam' is a term mainly used in Western orchestral music, similar to how a 'violin' is called a 'fiddle' in country music. I prefer to refer to my instruments as 'gongs' because I don't play in the symphony.

  • @mikegeorges7935
    @mikegeorges7935 5 лет назад

    JESUS CARES FOR YOU!!!

  • @MM-vs2et
    @MM-vs2et 5 лет назад +1

    Sounds like God calling me. Why am I here again?

    • @cosmicsprings8690
      @cosmicsprings8690 5 лет назад

      Martin Anthonio16 lol 😂 because you have been a very naughty boy...✨✨😲🤔😂😂😂✨✨

  • @kirieley
    @kirieley 5 лет назад

    :)

  • @danesz021
    @danesz021 5 лет назад

    500th like and 50th comment

  • @62chanel76
    @62chanel76 5 лет назад

    gong comes from Indonesia

  • @fartwrangler
    @fartwrangler 5 лет назад

    That isn't a gong, it's a tam-tam.

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  5 лет назад

      Tam-Tam is an orchestral term. I don't play in an orchestra. Besides, the Chinese don't call them tam-tams…

    • @Gongtopia
      @Gongtopia  5 лет назад +1

      Actually, 'tam tam' is a term that was created when 'Gongs' were 1st used in symphonic music back in the 1800s to differentiate a flat faced Gong from a Gong with a raised center 'boss.' (There is no definitive answer as to where the term originated - same say it's Chinese, some say it's Hindi, still others say it's something else…) When a score calls for a 'tam tam' (like Messiaen’s 'Et exspecto resurrectionem mortuorum'),then a flat faced Gong, like a Chinese Chau, is used.