The Hemlock Dam Removal Story - Columbia Basin Restoration

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  • Опубликовано: 4 май 2024
  • Hemlock Dam was built in the Great Depression to provide water for a work camp in the area. The dam was build on Trout Creek, a tributary of the Wind River, in the Columbia River Gorge.
    The dam was removed in the summer of 2009 and over 12 miles of upstream habitat was restored for Columbia River Steelhead. The Forest Service worked with local contractors, conservation groups, the Bonneville Power Administration, federal agencies and native tribes to secure funding for the dam removal and complete this ambitious restoration project.
    The Crag Law Center worked with the Gifford Pinchot Task Force to ensure that the project moved forward smoothly. Crag intervened in a challenge to the water quality certification for the project and contended that the Washington Department of Ecology had complied with federal law in approving the dam removal.
    This 10 minute version of the film is an edited version of the full-feature length 23-minute version of the film which is available directly from the Crag Law Center. Contact Ralph Bloemers at 503.525.2727 to obtain a copy of the feature length or look for it to appear in various film festivals across the country.
    Copyright 2010 HydroPower Reform Coalition
    Directed by: Sam Drevo and Ralph Bloemers
    Produced by: Ralph Bloemers

Комментарии • 341

  • @georgew.5639
    @georgew.5639 3 года назад +80

    Dams that no longer serve a purpose ought to be removed.

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl 2 года назад +2

      Even dams that don't seem to serve a purpose to the public most likely still have a purpose. It could be as simple as flood control even when the other as built purposes are no longer used. I do agree that those who have zero purposes and it's cheap enough to remove them should be removed. If the cost of removal is excessive then leave them.

    • @GerardMeijssen
      @GerardMeijssen 2 года назад

      @@dundonrl When dams serve no purpose, would you be willing to pay for their upkeep to standards?

    • @timshannon6363
      @timshannon6363 2 года назад

      Only if it is causing a problem because taxpayers foot the bill same with removing statues

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 2 года назад +11

      @@dundonrl No. If they're an ecological hazard then it doesn't matter what it costs to remove them, they need to go.

    • @namejeff6090
      @namejeff6090 Год назад +1

      @@aaronleverton4221 I agree with both of you. But I strongly agree with this.

  • @aolegario1
    @aolegario1 2 года назад +34

    I worked out there with the Forest Service and we would check the fish trap at the dam regularly to monitor steelhead adults passing through. Such an amazing fish and glad the dam came out as I know it was no small feat with opposing views from people that wanted it to remain and questioning whether fish could pass after removal.

  • @StereoSpace
    @StereoSpace 6 лет назад +110

    I am completely OK with removing the thousands of dams that are no longer necessary. Some dams serve vital purposes in terms of the energy they produce and the clean water they impound.

    • @cheswick617
      @cheswick617 3 года назад +9

      of course you are...But what many people that are for total dam removal forget is that hydro-electric power is BY FAR the cheapest and cleanest form of energy there is. EVERY form of energy has it's drawbacks...wind power kills birds and is ugly and is limited to when the wind actually blows enough to turn generators. solar power is extremely limited to sunny days (not nights). nuclear has a huge issue with disposal of spent fuel rods. Water (hyro-electric) has fish issues.

    • @certaindeed
      @certaindeed 3 года назад +4

      @@cheswick617 every concrete dam that they take down is a tragedy. We as a nation are not capable of building new ones

    • @blipco5
      @blipco5 3 года назад +1

      GB Zebra - That's not true but I can accept people who believe it to be.

    • @certaindeed
      @certaindeed 3 года назад +1

      @@blipco5 which part? That we will never be able to build new ones? Try it and see

    • @blipco5
      @blipco5 3 года назад +3

      GB Zebra - Cars, we can't build but dams yes. Look at the Hoover Dam..done right, still perfect.
      What you don't understand is that dams must be built on perfect locations. And for the most part, all these sites have already been built upon.
      You just can't put a dam anywhere. If you do they will fail.
      Read the updated version of "Cadillac Desert". Anything you want to know about building dams is there, from site selection, rejected sites and successes and failures.
      Read that then report back.

  • @normansilver905
    @normansilver905 Год назад +1

    It was good to see this Dam removed. Hopefully the plan to remove many Dams will continue to be implemented.

  • @siliconvalleyengineer5875
    @siliconvalleyengineer5875 Год назад +4

    I was a avid oregon fishermen for many years. what I saw were dams that were more than 70% silted with mud holding very little water back. my favorite stream to fish in the summer was the hood river, but it had a silted little dam a couple miles up stream that kept the salmon and other fish from getting above it. there was lots of talk about taking that dam out, and I hope it was removed. the fishing was excellent and the food and night life in the city of hood was fantastic.

  • @WildWestGal
    @WildWestGal 4 года назад +54

    Wonderful video, I love seeing Mother Nature being allowed to resume her natural course! We have way too many dams in this country that are not only dangerous but unnecessary at this point in time. They need to come down.

    • @jameshaynie4570
      @jameshaynie4570 2 года назад +3

      If the dams come down, where do you plan on getting the replacement electricity they provide? More carbon based fuel powered generation systems? Wind and solar won't be up to the task and are more damaging to the environment than dams. And where are you going to get the water for the thirsty masses of people and animals?

    • @rodshop5897
      @rodshop5897 2 года назад +6

      @@jameshaynie4570 How much electricity was provided by the Hemlock dam? How do you define, "more damaging to the environment than dams" and with what evidence do you defend your position? Most drinking water is pumped from underground wells in my area.

    • @jameshaynie4570
      @jameshaynie4570 2 года назад +1

      @@rodshop5897 dams provide flood control, electricity, storafe for irrigation and drinking water. The push to tear down dams just so the fishing industry can make more money doesnt make sense. So why do you think that dam should come down? Do you know why that dam was built?

    • @rodshop5897
      @rodshop5897 2 года назад +2

      @@jameshaynie4570 So to correct your statement, "some dams are designed to provide flood control, some are designed to produce electricity, some are designed to create reservoirs for irrigation and drinking water." My point being that this dam did not seem to be doing any of that, so why are you against it coming down? Or are you just pushing the idea that there cannot be too much of a good thing?

    • @jameshaynie4570
      @jameshaynie4570 2 года назад +1

      @@rodshop5897 it was built to provide water and power in 1937 and included a fish ladder. The fishing industry started pushing to tear it out at the turn of the century to increase the numbers of steelhead and salmon. Tearing it out means the public has to find another source for the environmentally friendly electricity it provided and also the loss of water storage.
      Too many fans have been removed just to enrich the fishing industry at the expense of our environment!

  • @andrewhansen4179
    @andrewhansen4179 3 года назад +26

    Love it, keep moving the unnecessary dams out of natures way.

  • @ant-1382
    @ant-1382 Год назад +1

    Right on, I'm sure when folks see the results, they will see that it is for the best.

  • @lag9765
    @lag9765 2 года назад +3

    The right thing to do and for the good of all the people.

  • @dogbarbill
    @dogbarbill 4 года назад +57

    Since this was ten years ago, I'm curious to see how things are now.

    • @Arturas1244
      @Arturas1244 3 года назад +12

      @@TheWhale45 Come to Europe here we remove as much damns as possible, where is no such thing what will happen, what happen is full river of fish people doing more bussiness from rivers, its more like question of money for removal. If damn does not do profit we close and remove it, it takes years for fish to come beck, but more and more of salmon and other expensive fish come beck.

    • @Arturas1244
      @Arturas1244 3 года назад +4

      @@TheWhale45 i ment fish quantity how it was before damn :)

    • @englishruraldoggynerd
      @englishruraldoggynerd 3 года назад +6

      I’ve just found eleven RUclips videos in under a minute by searching..... you could too! 🤣

    • @certaindeed
      @certaindeed 3 года назад

      Not as good as if they had rebuilt the dam and planned a waterfront community town around it.

    • @climbinhawaiian7881
      @climbinhawaiian7881 3 года назад +26

      I live here. It looks nothing like the lake I grew up swimming in but no complaints here. Im an avid fisherman and the steelhead run has steadily increased every year, literally the year after they blasted this they had steelies comin up to spawn🤙

  • @johnortega8495
    @johnortega8495 3 года назад +24

    Restoring river system is a 1000% more important than having fun in an artificial swimming hole.Rivers transporting sediment and cobbles freely downstream without harmful viciously contructed dams is a way to let nature run free and fish to recover their lifecycle.

    • @danielmorse4213
      @danielmorse4213 2 года назад +2

      Take a shower hippi

    • @kayzeaza
      @kayzeaza 2 года назад

      To be fair both are important and plausible to have. I live near a lake that is created by damming a creek up to make the lake. The lake has become an important economic and environmental fixture of the area. Plus rivers arnt always dammed for just recreation. Plenty of times it’s to have drinking water, plenty of place in California so this. It creates reservoirs.

  • @eastsussexbeesandwildlife5801
    @eastsussexbeesandwildlife5801 6 месяцев назад

    Brilliant success. Unfortunately here in the UK we are lagging behind, so many of our streams abd rivers have obstructions which could and should be removed, but the process has started. Keep uo your successes!😅

  • @PacoOtis
    @PacoOtis 2 года назад +3

    Bravo! Thanks for sharing and the very best of luck!!

  • @lag9765
    @lag9765 2 года назад

    I thank you for all you do...

  • @furripupau
    @furripupau 5 лет назад +18

    Interesting comments. This was a small dam that probably wasn't doing anything useful anymore. It's better to have it removed than to have people foot the bill for maintenance when it's no longer useful. I do sometimes question the removal of larger dams that provide a good amount of generation capacity, but small dams like these are too outmoded and should be removed when possible.

    • @alex-marquette
      @alex-marquette 4 года назад +5

      if it isn't useful or another dam can provide the same energy that a particular dam can produce why not consolidate them so there aren't as many structures to check every few years. Less structures government workers need to check means the structures that are standing and being useful the more through the checks and less chance of disaster of occurring.

    • @WildWestGal
      @WildWestGal 4 года назад +9

      Particularly because this dam was only built to sustain the CCC while they were operating in the area. They were putting up structures of every kind all over hell's half acre during the Depression just to put people to work. Many of these were unneeded and ultimately detrimental. But at the time, the work was serving a purpose.

    • @charityrocks
      @charityrocks Год назад

      Revelstoke dam in BC Canada is causing ALOT of problems.

  • @sitindogmas
    @sitindogmas Год назад +3

    I would be curious to see what it looks like these days, it looked like they done a hell of a job 👍

    • @covenant11
      @covenant11 Год назад

      Me too! I may have to take a trip down there just to take a look.

  • @cpierce3277
    @cpierce3277 2 года назад +11

    As many inappropriate dams were built , nobody talks about the other dams built by CCC and the WPA . A lot of dams were built simply to relieve flooding downstream , more flood control dams were built than any other type of dam .

    • @SuperGorli
      @SuperGorli 2 года назад +1

      The irony is: the sheer mass of dams result in a risk of cascade failure of flood dams. The incremental sedimentation of the flooded basins will also increase the risk of mud releases which, in worst case, cann also cascade the sedimented downstream dams. The risk rises with each year we dont remove uneccessary dams. In 50 years dams will be one of the biggest topics in china, hopefully the us and europe will have renatured most of them until then.

    • @cpierce3277
      @cpierce3277 2 года назад +1

      @@SuperGorli Great when you find another source of drinking water , agricultural uses, and hydro electric generation . Solar and wind alone wont power us . Takes more pollution to create huge lithium ion batteries than they save .

    • @SuperGorli
      @SuperGorli 2 года назад

      @@cpierce3277 Dams are not a problem in itself. The problem is, they were build as single structures and not embedded into a riversystem with dozens, sometimes hundrets of dams. If upstream dams are opening, donstream has to be able to manage by diverting and funneling the water. Most countries already react by rebuilding the dams in an order with widespread flood areas (reintroduction of swamps / marches). Only China is more or less doing the opposite, which i cannot really understand, since they normally have the biggest flooding events worldwide.

  • @richardhead3211
    @richardhead3211 Год назад

    humans in the dry west could use that water. it is a win for trout!

  • @davidruff1322
    @davidruff1322 7 лет назад +3

    great job

  • @Tupunaforever
    @Tupunaforever 3 года назад +6

    well done, an amazing job....

  • @AngryNotSoOldHippy
    @AngryNotSoOldHippy 11 лет назад +31

    What an incredible project, absolutely amazing. Fantastic work here.

  • @Tina-di4lx
    @Tina-di4lx 2 года назад +2

    Nice work you guys kudos

  • @deschutesmaple4520
    @deschutesmaple4520 10 лет назад +12

    Wow this is an excellent video, I'm really glad to see the Hemlock dam removed and the river returned to its normal healthy state with plenty of steelhead and salmon freely migrating to their spawning habitat :-))))))) I would also like to see the Dalles dam removed. That part of the Columbia was incredible with the rapids and falls. Bring it back please :-)

    • @VirginiaFitzpatrick
      @VirginiaFitzpatrick 9 лет назад +7

      I saw a dam removed in my local watershed in Pennsylvania. I was a watershed monitor for Stony Creek. One of my monitoring Stations was near the Dam. Now the stream provides a better environment for trout.

    • @deschutesmaple4520
      @deschutesmaple4520 9 лет назад +2

      Virginia Fitzpatrick
      That's great news Virginia, glad to hear it!

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl 8 лет назад +1

      +Deschutes Maple how will you get online without power to post your stupid crap? You do realize how much power the dams on the Columbia provide the northwest? I'm sure your also one of the liberal morons that want to do away with coal and natural gas fired power plants. (and those provide 80% of the power in the United States)

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl 8 лет назад +1

      +Virginia Fitzpatrick do they let people go fishing in that creek, I doubt it.. since it would upset the natural environment..

    • @rodshop5897
      @rodshop5897 2 года назад +2

      @@dundonrl "how will you get online without power" How much power was the Hemlock dam producing?

  • @anglosaxon244
    @anglosaxon244 3 года назад +2

    Less dams=Many more big wild salmons.---food for our grandchildren.

    • @jameshaynie4570
      @jameshaynie4570 2 года назад

      You mean more money in the fishing industry pockets. Do you know how much Salmon and Stealhead are put on grocers shelves and get discarded because they were not purchased?

    • @anglosaxon244
      @anglosaxon244 2 года назад

      @@jameshaynie4570 happy new year James,!!
      Yes,and soon there will be many more discarded,because there will be no one to eat them,Thanks to fauci and his gang.

    • @jameshaynie4570
      @jameshaynie4570 2 года назад +1

      @@anglosaxon244 surely you don't believe COVID and it's variants are going to kill off that many people. Fauci should be in prison along with the rest of the liberals pushing worthless vaccines that only cause variants while enriching the manufacturers that donate so heavily to their election campaigns.

    • @anglosaxon244
      @anglosaxon244 2 года назад

      @@jameshaynie4570 How is it they call us now....."purebloods".....Just a couple of years ago we where all just like that......f..k the metaverse!!..Greetings from Chile,..where 95% got the kool-aid.....soon they will put me in a museum over here....take care,be real!...and hunt the hunters!.

  • @williambtm1
    @williambtm1 9 лет назад +23

    How intelligent that the people were to remove the Salmon impeding dams.

    • @irenedavo3768
      @irenedavo3768 3 года назад +1

      Hello

    • @williambtm1
      @williambtm1 3 года назад +4

      @@irenedavo3768 Hello Irene, I like that you are a person that wants to see your inherited natural features and waterways et al remain intact. The problem in today's world began with treacherous governments, now add the ruthless lust for profits which is all that corporations care about... this has become the perfect formula for natures bounty, and the natural beauty of your environment to be targeted for its mass destruction.
      The same shit is happening in Australia.

  • @gardenia24sugarfoot.36
    @gardenia24sugarfoot.36 3 года назад +21

    I understand the sentiments of the gentleman talking about the kids swimming in beautiful swimming hole those are your awesome memories but that is just what they are,, the realty sir is 'that unless Mother Nature is left to nourish us all we will not have a safe n healthy environment' for those kids babies in their future'. In my opinion. Travel safely

    • @Mrbfgray
      @Mrbfgray 2 года назад +2

      *Always a false choice* ppl vs fish, nature in general. It's a question of values, I'd argue his kids and grandkids, to extent they stayed in the area, would be richer for resurrection of the river. Dude was totally cool tho.

    • @deanfirnatine7814
      @deanfirnatine7814 2 года назад +9

      I am a hardcore conservative from a ranching and logging family that said I agree basically with you, he is being very selfish and narrow minded, what about all the commercial fishing families and entire communities that depend upon them, if we continue to destroy our fish runs what becomes of them and the people they feed? This dam served no real purpose anymore and if he thinks that is the last clean swimming hole in the area then he is just lazy and not looking very hard. Fish are not "more important than people" this is about the people I mentioned but his myopic view of the world fails to recognize the people and communities his swimming hole negatively impacts.

    • @Mrbfgray
      @Mrbfgray 2 года назад +3

      @@deanfirnatine7814 I'm with you but I don't think he was adamant against dam removal, he was just presenting another side. No big change goes without some negatives and it's worth considering all angles.

    • @billrobbins5874
      @billrobbins5874 2 года назад

      Most realistic opinion I've heard. For the future. These projects are good things to do for the environment and all people living in the surrounding areas.

  • @JakobFischer60
    @JakobFischer60 2 года назад +2

    I like videos like this. There is still hope for the US.

  • @treemoon6394
    @treemoon6394 Год назад +1

    Great project.

  • @mountainboyoakley3119
    @mountainboyoakley3119 2 года назад +1

    Love it

  • @w.w.2restorations.vehicles698
    @w.w.2restorations.vehicles698 Год назад

    EXCELLENT!!

  • @andreiandreyuk652
    @andreiandreyuk652 Год назад +1

    Good job
    Way to go

  • @leo959
    @leo959 7 лет назад +17

    seeing dams removed puts a swelling feeling in my chest but when a dam goes up i dont feel that good.

    • @StereoSpace
      @StereoSpace 6 лет назад +5

      I'm glad you don't need fresh water or clean power.

    • @LisaBeergutHolst
      @LisaBeergutHolst 2 года назад

      @@StereoSpace People also need healthy ecosystems lol

  • @xaiano794
    @xaiano794 2 года назад +10

    10:09 - it always amazes me how opposed people are to change, yet how we all build our lives around a reliance on change. I mean look at this guy, the worst thing he could say about the change was that 'other people' couldn't swim here - he didn't personally have a single reason to oppose the project yet he clearly did.
    (and yes, kids are 'other people' - everyone uses the 'won't someone think of the children' argument as a last resort)

  • @aussieswatching3135
    @aussieswatching3135 4 года назад +7

    Great job, love it

    • @johncope9619
      @johncope9619 3 года назад

      Time we just get out of the way, man.We built them, we can Remove the bloody dams and remove all the poisoning pellet fed hatcheries too on the Columbia River.You need power? Go nuclear. Go Hydrogen-solar hybrid, whatever.
      Man needs to eat, and this is free! Man build's ladders, hatcheries, pens ect. it makes each fish sickly and costly! $60.00. Ea. If you factor the costs.
      Save all that by getting out of the way. There are many ways to spin a turbine. If not, we destroy all that free resource, livelyhood's the reliant biodiversity, forrest critter food, healthy forests nutrients.
      Think food insecurity. Human population gains another billion souls every 12 years, will we worry about plugging in or eating? Prepare, It would be prudent to restore salmon, now. Restore the massive fish run's now, before we ruin this priceless resource. Ban pens that infect, degrade, poison and kill the wild healthy fish as in Georgia and Wanda Fucca straits. Orcas are sickened pcb. laiden from tainted salmon and so are your children.
      Extreme measures are needed, do away with pens. We do with the same with diseased food poultry and livestock bird flu, madcow ect. Reimburse, cull or sell then entirely, ban, shutter, stop all farmed salmon . Sickly diseased fish stock farm's in B.C and Washington. hatchery fish experiments cannot match the numbers unencumbered given by wild unencumbered free spawning salmon. Pellet fed fish Infect wild healthy salmon return slaughtered milked? Man just get out of the way! They will come back, multiple species,10's of tons of healthy wild salmon will return, will rebound, will feed us will sustain fisher families.
      Get out of the way and teaming salmon will recover by nature. Fight for a healthy food source. A sport fishing boom. Rise, recover the gift that just keeps on giving.

  • @Squarerig
    @Squarerig 9 лет назад +8

    This is heartening news indeed from the USA,from the USA which here,instead of interfering across the globe and thus causing death and misery,is setting an example which the whole world should follow!Bravo!

    • @robertwoodpa6463
      @robertwoodpa6463 9 лет назад +3

      Oh like interfering with Hitler? Like interfering in Korea? Like interfering in Bosnia? Like interfering in Afghanistan? Yeah we need to knock that crap off. .

    • @Squarerig
      @Squarerig 9 лет назад +3

      Robert Wood PA Exactly!

  • @sresto7943
    @sresto7943 Год назад

    So much effort and energy when nature is sometimes easier, take a look at marmot dam removal.

  • @desert.mantis
    @desert.mantis 4 года назад +11

    I'm always glad to see another dam go. The ecological benefits far outweigh the economic ones. Thanks for posting this video.

  • @tj7870
    @tj7870 10 месяцев назад

    GOOD!

  • @eddiedelzer8823
    @eddiedelzer8823 Год назад +1

    A list of ideas to sam dams.
    Fish Runs saving Dams and Water Shortages
    Update 7/4/2021
    Do you have a nearby moving river or stream? You can now place a slow speed water generator on the bottom of the stream and make power 24 hours a day. The unit is called a Waterotor made in Canada. The Waterotors won't harm fish and can be scaled up to meet the needs of small towns or cities. Make the power miles away from the small town, sell the power to the power company than use the power to make water anywhere. Atmospheric water generators can make drinking water and irrigation water, and with a Waterotor, power can be made even in remote regions of the World. You just need moving water 3 to 4 miles an hour in streams, irrigation channels, fish ladders or even waste water outlet's. Garbage treatment plants can also use the power they make burning garbage to make water with atmospheric water generators and add storage tanks to supply small towns and cities. Adding Waterotors below dams can maximize electrical power made by any dam and replace power lost if the dam has a fish ladder or channel for fish to move up and down stream. A dam can be saved for flood control by adding these powered fish ladders and channels or notching the dam and putting in a flood gate to raise and lower the river during fish runs. Now people and fish can share the river. Note using the methane from sewage treatment plants or garbage landfills might be used to generate electricity for any water making projects. You might use your own City sewage system to make filtered irrigation water for lawns and gardens they have a system like that in my my small town. Note, what to make even more power? Then by covering fish ladders and channels with spaced solar panels decreases evaporation of the water and increases the efficiency of the solar panels.
    A now overdue idea, dealing with forest fires. You build and place atmospheric water generators and 100,000 to 5,000,000 gallon water tanks on hilltops to protect your town. You cover the tanks with solar panels and add wind turbines to make power anywhere. You sell the power, drinking water and irrigation water, then by adding irrigation pipes down the hillsides, you can create fire lines that lasts up to 24 hours. You make these fire lines by adding TetraKO, by Earth Clean at a 4 to 6 percent solution to the water. Turn on these stand alone units remotely, your fire trucks can work elsewhere or resupply themselves with needed water. Fire protection, drinking water, irrigation water and stand alone power for any city or town in need. Here again, Waterotor generators could be used to generate power for the hilltop water making units. These ideas all can be done today, just search RUclips, and then tell someone.

  • @BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists

    I enjoy the Wind RIver area.

  • @HighWealder
    @HighWealder 2 года назад

    Great.

  • @avail1.
    @avail1. Год назад

    do you have a picture of that important fish ??

  • @markroberts5203
    @markroberts5203 8 месяцев назад

    Content is messed up.Make up your mind. Hemlock Dam or Trout Creek Dam, which is it?

  • @Tina-di4lx
    @Tina-di4lx 2 года назад +4

    That material must have been very fertile .
    I’m thinking Farmers must have lined up for some of that.

    • @bigears4426
      @bigears4426 2 года назад

      It's dead as , but doesn't take long to come back to life once you get worms and microbes back into it

  • @masterspin7796
    @masterspin7796 3 года назад +4

    Im happy this is happening...

  • @ronward3949
    @ronward3949 4 года назад +4

    Heavy duty compaction may seriously compromise the ability of a river to heal itself so use of modern technology to get a real reading on human caused compaction sections may be used to find other potential techniques to thoroughly restore the potential habitat, gravel beds, natural stream function, scouring, and habitat back to historical or Ancestral Knowledge levels of the natural process where man may have heightened the pristine conditions that existed before the dam was made. Excellent efforts and don't forget to leave it to beavers and or muskrats to bring back natural deep holes and riparian masters of the ecological kind!

    • @ceceliaclarke264
      @ceceliaclarke264 2 года назад

      Excellent comment. Thank you. To add clarification to your comment, I would say that fish require varied levels in a stream or river bed. They must have over-hang of banks, for shade through the hottest hours of a summer day; they require low-current, quieter areas for the attachment of eggs to rocks; and they require deep areas for protection from predatory birds. The equipment shown in this video seems to be compacting the stream bed into something resembling a paved highway. Certain of these multi-ton vehicles are even identified as road building equipment. The impression which I receive from this video is of general enthusiasm for a project which lacks a foundation in knowledge, study, and preparation. Directors and the hoards of volunteers seem to me to be not so much different from the dam enthusiasts of the 1930s. The mind set is in many ways, just the same.
      I am sorry for being two years late with a response. This video has been recommended in May, 2022. Thank you for your very insightful comment.

  • @daled8221
    @daled8221 Год назад

    This is all fine & dandy, until it just flows out into the ocean unchecked as a waste of fresh water during our permanent drought.

  • @loganbedard4905
    @loganbedard4905 8 лет назад +2

    Which Pinchot park is the original? I live in PA and we have one here too

    • @GH-oi2jf
      @GH-oi2jf 4 года назад

      Logan Bedard - This is the Gifford Pinchot National Forest, not a park.

    • @Seeker0fTruth
      @Seeker0fTruth 2 года назад

      I noted that as well but the PA forest is newer if I recall.

  • @trevormann8221
    @trevormann8221 3 года назад

    Brilliant, well done all involved

  • @donchonealyotheoneal5456
    @donchonealyotheoneal5456 Год назад

    I just hope there's a way to put Beaver back in there I'm sure there were beaver in that system so that could be the Final Fix

  • @casienwhey
    @casienwhey 4 года назад +7

    Now what about removing all the dams on the Columbia River and making it a true river again?

    • @GH-oi2jf
      @GH-oi2jf 4 года назад +1

      casienwhey - Won’t happen.

    • @shawnmoore288
      @shawnmoore288 4 года назад +2

      What about all the communities that depend on the river being dammed for commercial business like the wheat farmers in central Washington and Oregon and Idaho that would just mean more trucks and trains instead of barging the grain to Portland, but just means more wind farms being built so you can have power also

    • @cheswick617
      @cheswick617 3 года назад +1

      how about you get on your bicycle and convert it to a generator? Hydro power is BY FAR, THE cleanest, and cheapest form of energy there is.

    • @Mrbfgray
      @Mrbfgray 2 года назад

      @@cheswick617 Cleanest is debatable, destruction of rivers and wildlife is a high price to pay, fortunately we have many viable, economical options today.

    • @hardup9809
      @hardup9809 2 года назад

      Fuck you

  • @ThePatriot87
    @ThePatriot87 2 года назад +5

    Very interesting how many people are for removing damns yet when there are major floods people are gonna be like well that damn really helped

    • @danielmorse4213
      @danielmorse4213 2 года назад

      And don't forget the dry years. So many.

    • @Arrica101
      @Arrica101 2 года назад +2

      Maybe if they hadn't cut down everything green and replaced it with so many inefficient and destructive farms flooding wouldn't be even close to the issue it currently is

    • @ThePatriot87
      @ThePatriot87 2 года назад

      @@Arrica101 there is a reasonable amount of deforestation. Clearly in this case cutting down the Forrest was not the issue

    • @danielmorse4213
      @danielmorse4213 2 года назад +1

      @@Arrica101 Go buy your 10 dollar coffee and cry in your prius. No farms equals no food baby!

    • @ericpl7227
      @ericpl7227 2 года назад

      @@Arrica101 do you know how many trees are cut down and how many acres are cleared to build your "wonderful" wind turbines and solar fields?!

  • @TRICK-OR-TREAT236
    @TRICK-OR-TREAT236 2 года назад

    THAT STEELHEAD APPEARS TO HAVE 2 TUBE TAGS IN IT TOO.

  • @thestreetlawyer1
    @thestreetlawyer1 Год назад

    ive been here before and after the removal

  • @111day1
    @111day1 5 лет назад +3

    What was the cost?

  • @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
    @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki 2 года назад +4

    "Mountain in the Clouds" I have in hard copy, and early eighties book on early dams (1890 onwards) in the pacific north west, and the dams were largely PRIVATE and authorized by a Federal employee who "interpreted" policy one off. (No actual legislation or other LEGAL entity involved). Those dams mainly along the Columbia DESTROYED more fish value than they created in power value, but FISH are free. Hydro you get to charge money!!

  • @escaping6726
    @escaping6726 Год назад

    I grew up here swimming and catching salamanders and fishing. I know this was good but it makes a huge hole in my hart.

  • @brucepoole8552
    @brucepoole8552 2 года назад +1

    Here in California in spite of the drought we need to follow this success story

    • @bob_frazier
      @bob_frazier 2 года назад

      California needs more water storage not less.

    • @brucepoole8552
      @brucepoole8552 2 года назад

      @@bob_frazier California needs to use less water

    • @bob_frazier
      @bob_frazier 2 года назад +1

      @@brucepoole8552 I'd agree with that Bruce, especially when it comes to growing rice. But, S. Cal look like it simply has outgrown the supply and just needs more. Today in Oregon we have multiple rivers flooding, hundreds of thousands of cfm's just blowing out.

    • @brucepoole8552
      @brucepoole8552 2 года назад

      @@bob_frazier pipeline from oregon to so cal ?

    • @bob_frazier
      @bob_frazier 2 года назад

      @@brucepoole8552 Imagine the insanity that would cause here? But truly, we waste so much water 6 months out of the year. Enough to grow anything and everything in California several times over... if you had the storage.

  • @chrisstaylor8377
    @chrisstaylor8377 Год назад

    Why dose it take so long to get the ok to remove these dams ?

  • @lucysinate6095
    @lucysinate6095 6 лет назад +2

    😊

  • @royormonde3682
    @royormonde3682 2 года назад +2

    Fish aren't more important than people, they are just as important I figure. All those years that the dam was there was monument to how people and their needs were more important. His grandkids and future generations will enjoy this river much more than a swimming hole, you can find those anywhere. Now a living breathing river full of fish and wildlife around every corner is a thing of beauty to explore.

  • @irenedavo3768
    @irenedavo3768 3 года назад

    Watching April 2021

  • @robertcalamusso4218
    @robertcalamusso4218 2 года назад +1

    So sad.
    To lose a swimming “ hole “
    A for a “ bunch of stinking fish ! “.
    60 yrs old going on 16 Dull Normal.
    Come on Pard ~ you can’t see what the World 🌎 has gained by removing that dam.
    Shame on you !!!

  • @rifelaw
    @rifelaw 2 года назад +1

    Nowhere near the fight there was over Condit, thankfully.

  • @micah_lee
    @micah_lee 2 года назад

    I thought swimming holes referred more to rivers than ponds

  • @bulletscreenprinting
    @bulletscreenprinting 2 месяца назад

    Next they might as well tear out the bridges and roads so the buffalo can return 😂

  • @notyou6950
    @notyou6950 4 года назад +2

    How is the property rights affected by the lake removal?

    • @englishruraldoggynerd
      @englishruraldoggynerd 3 года назад +3

      Hmmm. Stagnant mosquito filled pools, or natural rivers. Tough choice 😂

  • @Asae2
    @Asae2 9 лет назад +2

    mhh some beaver dam are greater - a very small one :-)

  • @timlewis9873
    @timlewis9873 Год назад

    The end game is no electricity, watch'em.

  • @ashikabdul5283
    @ashikabdul5283 Год назад

    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @powderbeast5598
    @powderbeast5598 2 года назад

    Its always interesting to me ; How for profit & private corporations in up with the dams ? ...

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel 2 года назад

      Do you use tap water & electricity? Thank a dam.

  • @carmengloriamugaastudillo1265
    @carmengloriamugaastudillo1265 3 года назад

    REFORESTAR REFORESTAR árboles nativos para que VUELVA el ciclo de vida. Los árboles regulan la temperatura en la corteza TERRESTRE. Resguardan las NAPAS SUBTERRÁNEAS. Plantar árboles en las ORILLAS de los ríos que se llama SAUCE LLORÓN sus RAICILLAS don ELEMENTALES para que no se SEQUE. PRIORIDAD para todos los países del mundo. Juntos podemos. REFORESTAR REFORESTAR árboles nativos

  • @buellb0y
    @buellb0y 4 года назад +9

    He said “dewatered the reservoir”
    The proper word is “drained”.
    I can’t understand why people need to invent alternatives to established nomenclature.
    Ponderous.

    • @adamforcade2200
      @adamforcade2200 4 года назад +5

      Dewatering is a legit word and construction process- just not one that occurred here. Dewatering is the removal of water from solid material or soil by wet classification, centrifugation, filtration, or similar solid-liquid separation processes, such as removal of residual liquid from a filter cake by a filter press as part of various industrial processes.

  • @xzy89c
    @xzy89c 7 лет назад +4

    why was the channel not allowed to reestablish itself

    • @Stubbee
      @Stubbee 7 лет назад +4

      Because the 'experts' thought they knew their stuff.
      Eventually dam removals will be like the Condit and Marmot dam removals.
      This way wastes to much money on stuff that will happen naturally.

    • @silentepsilon888
      @silentepsilon888 5 лет назад +4

      it also depends on timing and fish migration at the time of 'scheduled' release of the river back to it's normal state. If there is too much sediment left in the river, it will get washed down and could fill in spawning ground downstream. It could also cloud the water substantially and suspended dirt and sand in the water can irritate the fish, their gills and their senses, leaving them disoriented as to which direction to go.

    • @alex-marquette
      @alex-marquette 4 года назад

      @@silentepsilon888 with how powerful some rivers are, they like don't have that much dirt suspended in them. If this was a slow moving river then yeah it's possible.

    • @WildWestGal
      @WildWestGal 4 года назад +3

      @@alex-marquette It's the silt that has built up behind the dam that is dangerous. If not properly handled in the take-down, it can damage the environment and the wildlife downstream for a long time.

    • @jo8737
      @jo8737 3 года назад

      As stated in the video, there was a regulation that prevented that..the water quality had to be maintained at a certain level during the removal. They had to flush/ pulse the sediment downstream in intervals. If the manpower and money are there, it is a beneficial act. No argument from me though for just blowing them and letting them reset by themselves if cost is prohibitive of a gentler removal...it’s better long term to remove it in a mess than to leave it there for another 100 years!!!

  • @mchurch3905
    @mchurch3905 8 месяцев назад

    Hopefully most of these unnecessary dams will be removed. These valuable watersheds are better than any manmade fish hatchery.

  • @dmpmasters3353
    @dmpmasters3353 2 года назад

    I wanted to jump off the dam and bridge, but the fish also need to have fun.

  • @hksp
    @hksp 3 года назад +2

    no flooding like now if they remove those damn in michigan

    • @rodshop5897
      @rodshop5897 2 года назад +1

      "no flooding like now if they remove those damn in michigan" Here in Michigan, we had dams that removed themselves. Lots of flooding because of that. Samford was nearly wiped off the map when those old dams failed.

    • @hksp
      @hksp 2 года назад

      @@rodshop5897yyes sir, i think ur problem is the damn removed themselves

    • @rodshop5897
      @rodshop5897 2 года назад

      @@hksp Yep, exactly. Didn't stop the flood at all.

  • @climbinhawaiian7881
    @climbinhawaiian7881 3 года назад +1

    Hour and a Half? It only takes an hour max to drive from here to Portland. Unless your driving like an Oregonian!!

  • @carmengloriamugaastudillo1265
    @carmengloriamugaastudillo1265 2 года назад

    Ahora no hay equilibrio en el planeta. Cómo tan poca visión? Seguirán los desastres naturales si no hay REFORESTACION de árboles NATIVOS. Juntos podemos.

  • @egay86292
    @egay86292 2 года назад

    bourgeois bandaids, when the patient needs radical surgery.

  • @bubba8876
    @bubba8876 7 лет назад +6

    I can understand the old fart's nostalgia for things that have outlived their usefulness.

  • @hlebo
    @hlebo 3 года назад +4

    You created such a thoughtful, inspiring video; why did you have to spoil it two minutes before the end with the ranting of some narrow-minded local?

    • @christianwhite2652
      @christianwhite2652 3 года назад +5

      Isn't terrible to hear an opposing view? If only we all agreed with every opinion you had there would finally be order! Have a good day comrade

  • @danielevans3932
    @danielevans3932 2 года назад

    Let remember that each and everyone of us sh&t into a stream or river.

  • @MrJeep75
    @MrJeep75 4 года назад +4

    How about flooding during high rain season, they could of just left it without maintenance if would of fell apart on it's own

    • @englishruraldoggynerd
      @englishruraldoggynerd 3 года назад +2

      If they do that, then massive pulses of water will race downstream, and the dam itself will be a dangerous tangle of concrete and rebar perpetually catching debris, then releasing again.

  • @alanowens3
    @alanowens3 7 лет назад +3

    We have learned so much since this project. What a waste of money. Now we just remove the dam and all man made structures. The river takes care of it's self, and faster than we could have imagined.

  • @israelshelton230
    @israelshelton230 Год назад

    Sometimes this makes sense but to think this will save the salmon and steelhead is ludicrous. The MAJOR problem with the diminishing return’s is the over fishing. Asian fishing vessel’s right off our coast’s are decimating the population. They happily accept the fines they receive as they get to keep and sell their catch at considerable profit. There needs to be harsher penalties for all….

  • @davidfarrens3572
    @davidfarrens3572 Год назад

    Just me but the intire Columbus River needs to be rid of dam's.

  • @danielmorse4213
    @danielmorse4213 2 года назад

    Hippi feel good politics.

  • @jimboslice9472
    @jimboslice9472 2 года назад +1

    how ignurt

  • @andrewvillanueva4222
    @andrewvillanueva4222 4 года назад +3

    They should remove all dams from the rivers. Restore the salmon runs.

    • @GH-oi2jf
      @GH-oi2jf 4 года назад +1

      Andrew Villanueva - The large dams won’t be temoved. These little ones are of no great importance.

    • @andrewvillanueva4222
      @andrewvillanueva4222 4 года назад

      @@GH-oi2jf l guess you didn't care about bring back the king salmon fishery in California.

  • @TheHolyMongolEmpire
    @TheHolyMongolEmpire 11 лет назад +2

    Well, why do you think environmentalists are lying to you? Lying about what exactly?

  • @SOTB69
    @SOTB69 4 года назад

    God damn, shes got a hot ass voice

  • @merryhunt9153
    @merryhunt9153 3 года назад

    Okay, but what did you do with the old concrete, the rusty fish ladder and the sediment removed from the reservoir? Was good land turned to landfill to deal with those things? What's the rest of the story?

    • @softballgunny
      @softballgunny 2 года назад

      They usually crush the concrete and turn it into road base. Not sure what they do with the steel.

    • @jameshaynie4570
      @jameshaynie4570 2 года назад

      @@softballgunny do some research, it is all about profits for the salmon fishing industry and it is expensive to haul away all that concrete to the crusher not to mention the destruction to the environment breaking the concrete into small enough chunks to haul away.

  • @ef7388
    @ef7388 Год назад +1

    Dams have a limited lifespan... Silt fills them up

  • @SuperHunKing
    @SuperHunKing 2 года назад

    Rodman Dam and the locks need to be taken down, the Oklawaha River is dying.

  • @stimpy1715
    @stimpy1715 Год назад

    There will come a day when you'll wish you had that water behind a dam.

    • @mattsavage
      @mattsavage Год назад +1

      there was hardly any water behind it. it was mostly sediment.

  • @toddclean547
    @toddclean547 Год назад

    There is no access to Mt Saint Helens from the Columbia Gorge. Do your damn research.

  • @richardblais5232
    @richardblais5232 8 лет назад +18

    Yes, fish ARE more important than people, much more ... there are too many people around for them to be of any importance ...

    • @boomshine7
      @boomshine7 6 лет назад

      yeah, you sure can't swim in a river, need the damn dam :s

  • @strider5453
    @strider5453 9 месяцев назад

    You're absolutely right...fish are more important than people. I've never seen a fish do anything to harm our environment. Humans, on the other hand, take it for granted.

  • @filmmade6214
    @filmmade6214 6 лет назад +5

    7:50 i rember that they used us as free labor :/