Got them already. Added a whole house filter last year, I use a non electric bidet and I built the house 19 yrs ago with a tankless hot water heater. Love them. I’d add one plumbing item to the list… and exterior hot cold water faucet hose bib. Woodford makes a great one. We live in the NE. I can run it year round. Wash the deck, dogs, etc
Chlorine does also escape into the air over time, and also this is sped up by heat such as a hand being immersed in the water. So I'm not sure your test shows what you imply it does. This is not to say that there are not issues with chlorine, but just saying that a known home remedy for reducing chlorine from tap water is to pour it into something and let it sit a while.
Hi Roger! I thank you for the videos you publish, and they are very educational. My wife and I are having a house built, and one "must have" is an electrical outlet in both my bathroom vanities. I can't stand waiting for hot water to wash up and brush my teeth, so a simple point of use hot water heater is my solution. And, it now allows me to install the bidet toilet seat. Thanks, Roger!!!
My bidet just gets hot water from the plumbing, and doesn't require power. It's a good option for if you don't already have power in place, and it works very well. ( Just remember to let the water warm up for a few seconds before you spray your nethers )
The bidet is a godsend to someone that can no longer reach back there to wipe. I used to shower right after to wash up. A couple of times I left a mess between the toilet and the shower. The only upgrade you need is heated water which requires electricity usually. What comes out of the wall in the morning can be quite a wake up call.
I keep toilet flappers in the garage, because they last around 2 months in my house. I very very recently (within the last month) discovered just how awful my water is, after visiting my mum and dad in Washington state over Christmas. I made the same food with the same ingredients that I always did, and it tasted COMPLETELY different. When I got home, I made the same thing again using a jug of distilled water, and it tasted nearly like it did in Washington. Made it again with tap water, and it was COMPLETELY different. I am now in the process or researching whole-home water purification systems!
@@FROG2000 With where my folks live, they get their water from the same place Tsawwassen and Delta do. Deliciously soft water! Meanwhile, I live down in the mountains of North Alabama, and my water appears to be made of rocks and anger.
Roger, I hope you enjoy making and posting these videos, because you stopping, is non negotiable. You must continue to make videos. There, I said it. Roger is in a non negotiable contract to never stop making videos. Much love and Aloha brother Roger. I love all of your videos. Even after being a plumber in the field for 31 years, I still learn new things from you. And for that, I Thank You. 🤙💯
It's far cheaper to install for future expansion today than to add it later. I work with EV chargers. Some municipalities now require the wiring for an EV charger to be installed in new construction. Install it today $50, 5 years from now $5,000. I was fortunate enough that the wiring for a backup generator was preinstalled, all I had to do was add the connector outside.
I thought about installing a whole house water filter BUT it wouldn't work out because the main comes into the house via the mud room that has the water heater, washer and dryer which takes up all of the room. So the only option is to route the main into the garage BUT again a new problem arises, the garage isn't climate controlled and winters can get into the negatives at night. It's just not feasible.
A suggestion for a future video. At the Energy Vanguard, there was a suggestion to plumb hot water to low flow fixtures with 3/8" pipe from a manifold very close to the outlet of the water heater. The smaller diameter pipe minimizes the amount of water in the pipe, so the time it takes to flow through the pipe is reduced, getting hot water to your faucet before you are done washing your hands. Back in the day before flow restrictors were installed, this wasn't quite as important, as flow rates were higher. This approach avoids the need for a recirculation pump and associated energy costs. Obviously, a washing machine shouldn't use this approach, and a shower with multiple shower heads wouldn't work well. My question is whether you see any downsides from this approach, whether from a tankless or traditional water heater.
Thank you for sharing your education and knowledge as I have a midcentury house that i'm going to have to renovate and redo the plumbing and electrical.
@RogerWakefield the plumbing system needs to be torn out and redone. Also flipping a bathroom to the opposite side of a wall where I'll take a half bath to a full bath. I want one of those steam showers when i do the bath reno. Anything i should know about adding on when i get the steam shower?
No i would design my house so all the water runs are central walls in a line, and i would put access directly every 8-10 feet and use propress. and every bathroom would have closet on other side with access as well. And maybe throw two lines and cap one from the house out to the street protected by conduit so if i never needed to replace one, i could either pull new or just swap over. That makes everything else easy, would never need to call for help again. ^_^
outlet at w/c good idea But Im not requiring a customer install a filter or including it in my base price as non negotiable or running oversize gas lines heck in Ca we might not be installing gas heaters soon what you should think about is 240 to w/h locations? thanks though those are good options do you insist on running gas pippping in a all electric home Just in case someone installs propane or natural gas becomes available ? Good upsells though and money in our pocket and happy customer is the key !
Either that, or, if you put those cleaning pucks in the tank. Remember, any of that stuff they make to clean your toilet by putting it in the toilet tank, are made of chemicals, and most of the innards of a toilet is made of rubber. Chemicals and rubber that is already constantly sitting in water, do not mix. But yeah, if you have hard water, like I do, that will also break down the flapper. Much Aloha from Oahu Hawaii.
Hooking a bidet to an existing box can be a poor choice if that bidet heats the water. Some bidets expect a dedicated circuit, or someone running a blow dryer and someone else using the bidet can trip the circuit breaker. A bidet which heats the water is essentially an electric tankless water heater for relatively low flow rates.
In my experience working for a company that specializes in water filtration, the salt free systems are kinda junk. We installed them for a year or two and then stopped because they just don’t meet the same expectations as a traditional salt softener. A salt softener physically removed the minerals from the water and sends them down the drain into the sewer, but salt free systems don’t even have a drain line most of the time because they don’t remove the minerals. Salt free systems change the chemical form of the minerals, but still keep them in the water, so to the customer, it still feels and looks hard. Does good for the plumbing in your walls, but customers were still getting hard water spots and scale buildup on fixtures. The majority of the systems we installed have since been replaced since customers were not happy with them, and the ones that were happy had never had soft water before and just liked the carbon filter that was installed with it.
You aren't absorbing the chlorine, that's a bad test. Chlorine escapes into the air, try it with a plastic spoon, you'll get the same result. And heat the water slightly (like a hard would do), and you'll get the identical result.
@@Ariel1S Yes, your body can absorb chlorine, primarily through the skin when you're exposed to chlorinated water, such as during swimming or bathing. Here's how it works: Skin Absorption: Chlorine in water can be absorbed through the skin. This is why you might notice your skin feeling dry or your hair becoming brittle after spending time in a chlorinated pool. Inhalation: When chlorine gas evaporates from water, you might inhale it, especially in enclosed spaces like indoor pools. This can lead to respiratory issues in some individuals. Ingestion: Drinking tap water that contains chlorine or swallowing pool water can also lead to chlorine absorption by the body. Once absorbed, chlorine can: React with Organic Matter: Inside the body, chlorine can react with organic materials to form compounds like trihalomethanes (THMs), which are considered potentially harmful if exposure is prolonged or at high levels. Metabolic Pathways: The body does have mechanisms to detoxify and eliminate chlorine, mainly through the liver and kidneys. Chlorine is converted into chloride ions, which are then excreted in urine or sweat.
I am on city water from Lake Erie and I have an OMNI whole house filter- the good 15,000 gallon Carbon Filters ahead of my 60,000 grain 54 year old Artesian Water Softener. No Chlorine smell at all. I only use about 25gal of water a day. I change the Filter after 1 year and it’s still good. Filter 2 pack cost about $18 plus tax. Run the Softener every 5 months. City water has about 7 grains a gallon. Chlorine is between 5 to 7. before the filter.
It is hilarious that the copy of the electrical code that I have says the plug must be six feet from a water supply. I put them at the toilet and near the sink.
Got them already. Added a whole house filter last year, I use a non electric bidet and I built the house 19 yrs ago with a tankless hot water heater. Love them.
I’d add one plumbing item to the list… and exterior hot cold water faucet hose bib. Woodford makes a great one. We live in the NE. I can run it year round. Wash the deck, dogs, etc
Chlorine does also escape into the air over time, and also this is sped up by heat such as a hand being immersed in the water. So I'm not sure your test shows what you imply it does. This is not to say that there are not issues with chlorine, but just saying that a known home remedy for reducing chlorine from tap water is to pour it into something and let it sit a while.
Chlorine escaping into the air is also why you have to keep adding it to your pool, and why you can smell it when you are next to the pool.
True,its why you leave water out before watering house plants! If you dont,the leaves will brown up on the edges from the chlorine!
Yeah if chlorine to skin contact was an actual health issue nobody would ever get into swimming pools.
Good to note that chloramine does not evaporate out of the water though. Some municipalities use chloramine in the water.
I agree that chlorine does escape the water, but the main point of the test was to prove it was still present even after filtering through the faucet.
Adding an outlet that way, do not forget ground fault outlet. Tankless water heaters require additional maintenance.
Hi Roger! I thank you for the videos you publish, and they are very educational. My wife and I are having a house built, and one "must have" is an electrical outlet in both my bathroom vanities. I can't stand waiting for hot water to wash up and brush my teeth, so a simple point of use hot water heater is my solution. And, it now allows me to install the bidet toilet seat.
Thanks, Roger!!!
My bidet just gets hot water from the plumbing, and doesn't require power. It's a good option for if you don't already have power in place, and it works very well. ( Just remember to let the water warm up for a few seconds before you spray your nethers )
The bidet is a godsend to someone that can no longer reach back there to wipe. I used to shower right after to wash up. A couple of times I left a mess between the toilet and the shower. The only upgrade you need is heated water which requires electricity usually. What comes out of the wall in the morning can be quite a wake up call.
I keep toilet flappers in the garage, because they last around 2 months in my house. I very very recently (within the last month) discovered just how awful my water is, after visiting my mum and dad in Washington state over Christmas. I made the same food with the same ingredients that I always did, and it tasted COMPLETELY different. When I got home, I made the same thing again using a jug of distilled water, and it tasted nearly like it did in Washington. Made it again with tap water, and it was COMPLETELY different. I am now in the process or researching whole-home water purification systems!
WA water, if you get your water from the cascade water shed, is some of the cleanest water in the nation.
@@FROG2000 With where my folks live, they get their water from the same place Tsawwassen and Delta do. Deliciously soft water!
Meanwhile, I live down in the mountains of North Alabama, and my water appears to be made of rocks and anger.
If a whole house one turns out to be too expensive, you could always look into an under sink one just for cooking
Roger, I hope you enjoy making and posting these videos, because you stopping, is non negotiable. You must continue to make videos. There, I said it. Roger is in a non negotiable contract to never stop making videos.
Much love and Aloha brother Roger. I love all of your videos. Even after being a plumber in the field for 31 years, I still learn new things from you. And for that, I Thank You. 🤙💯
Aloha brother, hope all is well with you...I'm glad you're still learning with me after all this time...
It's far cheaper to install for future expansion today than to add it later. I work with EV chargers. Some municipalities now require the wiring for an EV charger to be installed in new construction. Install it today $50, 5 years from now $5,000. I was fortunate enough that the wiring for a backup generator was preinstalled, all I had to do was add the connector outside.
Roger on the outlet for the bidet seat Roger. Install a bidet seat and you will fall in love all over again.
K
I thought about installing a whole house water filter BUT it wouldn't work out because the main comes into the house via the mud room that has the water heater, washer and dryer which takes up all of the room. So the only option is to route the main into the garage BUT again a new problem arises, the garage isn't climate controlled and winters can get into the negatives at night. It's just not feasible.
A suggestion for a future video. At the Energy Vanguard, there was a suggestion to plumb hot water to low flow fixtures with 3/8" pipe from a manifold very close to the outlet of the water heater. The smaller diameter pipe minimizes the amount of water in the pipe, so the time it takes to flow through the pipe is reduced, getting hot water to your faucet before you are done washing your hands.
Back in the day before flow restrictors were installed, this wasn't quite as important, as flow rates were higher. This approach avoids the need for a recirculation pump and associated energy costs.
Obviously, a washing machine shouldn't use this approach, and a shower with multiple shower heads wouldn't work well.
My question is whether you see any downsides from this approach, whether from a tankless or traditional water heater.
Thank you for sharing your education and knowledge as I have a midcentury house that i'm going to have to renovate and redo the plumbing and electrical.
Good luck with your project! What do have planned?
@RogerWakefield the plumbing system needs to be torn out and redone. Also flipping a bathroom to the opposite side of a wall where I'll take a half bath to a full bath. I want one of those steam showers when i do the bath reno. Anything i should know about adding on when i get the steam shower?
No i would design my house so all the water runs are central walls in a line, and i would put access directly every 8-10 feet and use propress. and every bathroom would have closet on other side with access as well. And maybe throw two lines and cap one from the house out to the street protected by conduit so if i never needed to replace one, i could either pull new or just swap over. That makes everything else easy, would never need to call for help again. ^_^
I spy a longhorn - love it 👀🤘🏻🧡
outlet at w/c good idea But Im not requiring a customer install a filter or including it in my base price as non negotiable or running oversize gas lines heck in Ca we might not be installing gas heaters soon what you should think about is 240 to w/h locations? thanks though those are good options do you insist on running gas pippping in a all electric home Just in case someone installs propane or natural gas becomes available ? Good upsells though and money in our pocket and happy customer is the key !
So THAT'S how my tank flapper got bleached out. Point taken.
Either that, or, if you put those cleaning pucks in the tank. Remember, any of that stuff they make to clean your toilet by putting it in the toilet tank, are made of chemicals, and most of the innards of a toilet is made of rubber. Chemicals and rubber that is already constantly sitting in water, do not mix. But yeah, if you have hard water, like I do, that will also break down the flapper. Much Aloha from Oahu Hawaii.
Those 3 things are cool
The water where I once stayed had as much chlorine as the pool . Good thing didn't get toe fungus.
Hooking a bidet to an existing box can be a poor choice if that bidet heats the water. Some bidets expect a dedicated circuit, or someone running a blow dryer and someone else using the bidet can trip the circuit breaker. A bidet which heats the water is essentially an electric tankless water heater for relatively low flow rates.
Something the twins home experts would use
Agreed 👍💯 !
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What do you think of salt free water conditioners?
In my experience working for a company that specializes in water filtration, the salt free systems are kinda junk. We installed them for a year or two and then stopped because they just don’t meet the same expectations as a traditional salt softener. A salt softener physically removed the minerals from the water and sends them down the drain into the sewer, but salt free systems don’t even have a drain line most of the time because they don’t remove the minerals. Salt free systems change the chemical form of the minerals, but still keep them in the water, so to the customer, it still feels and looks hard. Does good for the plumbing in your walls, but customers were still getting hard water spots and scale buildup on fixtures. The majority of the systems we installed have since been replaced since customers were not happy with them, and the ones that were happy had never had soft water before and just liked the carbon filter that was installed with it.
You aren't absorbing the chlorine, that's a bad test. Chlorine escapes into the air, try it with a plastic spoon, you'll get the same result. And heat the water slightly (like a hard would do), and you'll get the identical result.
@@Ariel1S Yes, your body can absorb chlorine, primarily through the skin when you're exposed to chlorinated water, such as during swimming or bathing. Here's how it works:
Skin Absorption: Chlorine in water can be absorbed through the skin. This is why you might notice your skin feeling dry or your hair becoming brittle after spending time in a chlorinated pool.
Inhalation: When chlorine gas evaporates from water, you might inhale it, especially in enclosed spaces like indoor pools. This can lead to respiratory issues in some individuals.
Ingestion: Drinking tap water that contains chlorine or swallowing pool water can also lead to chlorine absorption by the body.
Once absorbed, chlorine can:
React with Organic Matter: Inside the body, chlorine can react with organic materials to form compounds like trihalomethanes (THMs), which are considered potentially harmful if exposure is prolonged or at high levels.
Metabolic Pathways: The body does have mechanisms to detoxify and eliminate chlorine, mainly through the liver and kidneys. Chlorine is converted into chloride ions, which are then excreted in urine or sweat.
Do you a resize a filtered system for fire sprinklers?
you would not filter the sprinkler line, it needs 100% full line rate. any home with them would have an separate isolated fire piping install.
How much do replacement water filters/prefilters cost over the course of the entire year?
It depends on what water filter you install. I just installed a filter that I don't have to worry about for 5-10 years...
I am on city water from Lake Erie and I have an OMNI whole house filter- the good 15,000 gallon Carbon Filters ahead of my 60,000 grain 54 year old Artesian Water Softener. No Chlorine smell at all. I only use about 25gal of water a day. I change the Filter after 1 year and it’s still good. Filter 2 pack cost about $18 plus tax. Run the Softener every 5 months. City water has about 7 grains a gallon. Chlorine is between 5 to 7. before the filter.
Real soft clean water. I have a separate faucet on my kitchen sink for raw city water that I use for coffee, drinking and cooking.
Only way to strip it is very expensive carbon filters.
It is hilarious that the copy of the electrical code that I have says the plug must be six feet from a water supply. I put them at the toilet and near the sink.
GFCI's if 6 foot or closer, from any water source.
you must have a dinosaur codebook. lol
Yeah but im not eating with my booty hole 😂😂😂
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Is swimming in a pool once a week bad for you 🤷♂️
It’s not
I use a bidet but the argument of eating with shit hands is i dunno. Are people still eating with their asses like that old southpark episode?