The Verge's Non-Apology Towards Kyle And I Makes Me VERY Angry...
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2019
- The Verge has released a Non-Apology Towards Kyle and I. I'm not happy with it at all. Let's discuss.
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Well said, Rich! You covered and nailed everything. This article shows some companies like Vox will never learn or admit fault. Hoping change happens soon for all of us. Keep up the great work.
also i feel there's something really weird about an indian man accusing someone with chinese heritage of being racist towards chinese people
BUT HEY THAT'S JUST ME
@@DDRWakaLaka heritage doesn't matter, SJW's are racial purists and if you are mixed you are white unless you are mixed black and on their side.
@@thnderleg no, you're right. i forgot that they (disgustingly) view mixed race people as children of race traitors
I feel the community would like to hear a statement from Lyle and his opinions on the matter
Bitwit doesn’t use enough Thermal Paste in his videos, just saying.
"So much censorship, make me feel like I'm back in China!" -Lyle
Lol
“He not fighting static he fighting cancer”
SWAMRAT 4795 I died when he said that
"Screw in with confidence. I rike his styre!" So good
In China you get censored by the government, in America you get censored by private corporations. Honestly it’s hard to see which one is worse or more worrying
On Twitter that clown actually said it wasn't an apology and he wouldn't be giving one. He also said he used to be a copyright lawyer. No wonder he isn't one anymore he doesn't even understand fair use.
apparently you dont either lol
luvdady ???
@@xternalz see fair use is a subpart of the copyright law. fair use is a doctrine big difference. in basic terms fair use is an opinion, just because you say its a critique or ""parody"" means nothing . theres a lot of things in the rules not just im critiquing it. at the end of the day the verge could have sued and WON but its not worth the time or costs
@@luvdady apparently you don't either
@@rosco3 yeah see the above comment and think about it
If a copyright strike gets repealed because it was fair use, that company/person should get a strike for copyright abuse. IDK why RUclips hasn't done anything like this. It's been an issue for years!
Jayjaychavez23 that would open RUclips to liabilities because they would be arbitrating copyright of content. RUclips does not want that legal mess
@@Naa45702 Vox is a very liberal and toxic company. When you dont like their views or content and write about it they feel offended will do anything in their power
to burn you down. Since RUclips is run by liberals as well they will try to side with Vox as well but they are bound by their own regulations. Look at all the videos that they have demonitised.
Cuz Susan is unfair
Follow the money. I'm sure you will find your answer.
tom scott has a really good video on this actually
The Verge is just jealous that Rich has the power of cucumbers on his side
GOD and cucumbers!
@@jaybosher6144 *inhuman scream*
Power Overwhelming!
Cucumber overload
The Verge Cucumber Strike incoming! 😱 L😂L
RUclips should have a system that says that if you misuse the copyright claiming system, then you can’t manually claim videos anymore.
agreed brother
I think it should be like that but they lose it for a year so it would act as a warning
this big companies already use shodow groups to cliam for them so they can get away with their bullying so it wouldnt do much
Yeah but that would make sense.
3 strike rule would be fair imo. 3 false manual strikes result in an account freeze/termination.
Sept. 2019. Yoututbe recommended the supercut of people criticizing the video. I missed this originally.
That super cut was amazing lololol
Yup, same here.
Soulshocks yep i just got it recommenced to me lol
Its 2020 and youtube algorithm just popped it up to me
Just recommended it to me yesterday and this video today
On THE VERGE of extinction
Half of me wants to clap the other half wants to cringe
You mean 90% of you wants to cringe
Jaxon Read honestly yeah
Thats a death threat...
Badumtss
*”Rich and Kyle, we deeply regret you felt that way.”*
- The Verge “can’t build a PC” channel
bruuuh
@Dual J the Gamer It's girth rivals mega wide Pecorino Romano
"I didn't finish the video or read the article."
- cartmann94
@@Darkmortal100 I can't even start the video, RUclips keeps freezing on me
“They should have reached out to me.”
..Proceeds to drop copyright strike unannounced.
Like something a stalker would say. "I'll stop harassing you if you do whatever I want"
If you just go inside these doors...I promise they'll open again
It's 2020 and RUclips is starting to recommend this controversy again.
Gotta love RUclips algorithm
Yes love being recommended crap I don’t care about in 2020 let alone the year it was posted
2021, third round :D
Lyle is an established comedic parody/alter ego that Kyle has used for YEARS now and is no different to similar character's that comedians and such use on a regular basis. Him wanting to call that racists show how much of a clown the guy really is.
You're wrong man. Lyle is Kyle's identical twin brother.
Lyle is his long lost twin brother who was adopted by a nice Chinese family
Not to mention that Kyle is himself half-asian so that racist card they tried using is pretty dang weak
@@kittyyuki1537 weak is an understatement. Moronic? Pathetic? Both? Probably both.
*_Can we copystrike The Verge?_*
Sandice yeah
@@lIlIllIIllllI go get your master to go oh yeah yeah verge
I mean you could, though it'd be just as valid as the claims Vox media issued. While rarely- who am I kidding, they're never enforced, there are legal repercussions for doing so. Specifically, you have committed a count of perjury and if Vox decides to sue (which they will), you have no legal leg to stand on.
Let’s copy strike back !!
@@MoistChungus get 'em
The verge can’t build a pc let alone make a proper apology, no surprise here.
Sounds like a Vox company to me.
This what happens when one is full of egos and pride. They tend to think they can't do wrong.
If his video was in fact racist, why would they use the copy right system to take it down? RUclips has a system to flag videos violating policies on hate speech, targeted harassment, and encouraging or depicting violence.
Exactly and who even got offended from that.
Just glad to know you got the strike removed. By the kudos on the massive hustle lately Rich. You keep improving and you’re also looking like you’re enjoying the videos more again!
I hope The Verge is on the verge of collapse
That will make for a great video title for a future video
It's painfully obvious that The Verge and VOX Media are run by highly incompetent individuals. I hope these people lose their jobs, because they're a disgrace to the entire internet. Please get educated on Fair Use principles; you guys are embarrassing yourselves.
🤣🤣👌🏽
Death to The Verge!
LazärheaD THATS A DEATH THREAT!
The Verge is Triggered and wants a safe space now
TheOneAndOnlyDoubleU and The Verge’s owner, Vox Media. Vox is cancer
100 TB of cloud safe space.
TheOneAndOnlyDoubleU does Fox issue copyright strikes for criticizing their content? I’m actually curious. Does CNN? Does MSNBC?
In my safe spaccceeeeee!!!!!!!!!
@TheOneAndOnlyDoubleU Pathetic,you deflect everything with "What about fox news" grow up
Let's Cringe AGAIN at the Verge Failing MISERABLY at Damage Control
Lyle from Bitwit: "Screw da Verge with kawnfidence" I rike hiss styyrll.
Kyle is half asian himself. Also, being full asian myself, I also make fun of the accent. Am I racist for doing that? smh
I get your point. It's like when an African-American gets accused of racism for dropping the nuclear bomb!
You can't do that it offeneds white ppl
@@Elias___ I'm white and found it funny...not everything is about being racist, people who think everything is racist are often racists themselves~The verge
I make fun of my fellow Koreans 😂
They used again the race card to throw the narrative their way. Even if Lyle character was full on racist it wouldn't have mattered one bit regarding fair use.
Remember when Digital Homicide said you had to ask them permission to review their shovelware otherwise you're breaking fair use because you're being unfair?
And look where they are now🤣🤣
Digital Homicide pesters people besides Sterling? lol
those were the days!
Wow. Just wow.
Remember when fine bros tried to copyright the word react?
Kotaku & Polygon: Were the worst Journalist sites ever.
Verge: Hold my beer...
You mean "Hold my thermal applicator?"
@@Solidude wtf hahahahahahahah
When you said people had already forgotten the video. I had never seen the OG Verge video until your first copyright strike video went up.
ironic the Verge calling an asian man's impression of an asian man racist
Cody Bradley Well, that was an asian (nilay) calling an impression of an asian by an asian racist. But frankly, an asian doing a caricature of an asian accent can be racist, imo. But It has nothing to do with the strike, of course.
@@arn999 Nilay is Indian American. He isn't even Oriental. He has zero grounds to stand on calling an Oriental Asian for making a stereotypical oriental character.
Christopher Fortineux Oriental? Are you from the 1950s?
@@arn999 Oriental? That's my favourite flavour of 2-minute noodles
Probably he has an inferiority complex. @@christopherfortineux6937
Big companies throwing there weight around and bullying I'm shocked.
Their *
There? THERE???????
Damn, my phone started overheating from all that steam coming out of your ears.
I don't blame you
Just wanted to say, when they claim you two used "90% of their video" you go on a rant claiming your videos weren't 90% theirs. That's not what they were claiming. They were saying WITHIN the videos the two of your made, you use 90% of their video. Which in your case, is true (I haven't seen Kyle/Lyle's video). You used most of their video within your video. But your video still falls within fair use and they abused the copyright strike system.
Glad someone pointed this out.
Simp
Yes this is true I was thinking the same thing but like you said it still falls under fair use either way so it's an irrelevant point for them to make
I thought the exact same thing.
Rich, last night the guy from tech yes city spoke about it and showed how you and Kyle used the entire video of the verge with edits and that the two of you did fell under the fair use law because it was clear that you and Kyle were not doing anything wrong and RUclips seriously needs to start pushing the rules evenly
I can feeeeeeeel your anger it gives you focus, makes you stronger.
Lmao. Do it.
You’re violating copyright by using Chancellor Palpatine’s line without permission. You now have a strike. 😵
ROFL!
Alerion Horizon Good, Anakin. Gooood.
Darth Rich the Thicc
WHY is no one mentioning the fact that "The Verge" did NOT remove the strikes I think it was from Kyle (I forgot which youtuber said it) I heard that apparently RUclips sided with him as they eventually noticed that there were discrepencies in the what "The Verge" tried to claim and what the video showed or something like that and themselves removed the strike. Vox/The Verge is just taking credit to make themselves look better trying to be like "Oh we accidentally copyright striked some channels and we will remove the strikes"
ALSO Kyle's character was not really racist as he is half Asian (It is CLEARLY obvious that he is not White/Black/Hispanic/Latino or whatever and if you watch his channel his full Asian grandparents have appeared on his channel SO MANY TIMES) and his character was just a stereotypical Chinese guy speaking really broken English and by the looks of things this was just some random thing they managed to pull out of Kyle's video just to put dirt on him
Zahid Shabir Nilay said they retracted the claims themselves. The message from youtube wasn’t a definitive « this is fair use ». The process wasn’t finished.
Its still racist no matter what race you are, assuming you would have found the voice racist even if he wasnt half-asian (I dont find it racist either way).
@@notlNSIGHT what
Anybody seen the amount of dislikes on the verge's videos off late?
"I'm so proud of this community"
We should perhaps start also issuing strikes to companies that abuse the copyright system. If they claim something that is fair use, then they get a strike. If they get 3 or more they get flagged for copyright abuse and and cant file copyright claims for however long is deemed appropriate. Just to make them stop claiming everything with impunity, encourage them to only file when they are absolutely sure its infringement
**insert the m.bison yes!!! Gif or video clip here**
Honestly false claims should count as one of their three strikes, as if they got a copyright claim
@@adventureoflinkmk2 right, cuz look at the repercussions of having a strike on your own channel for no reason, let alone 3 strikes. It's horrible, it can shut a channel down immediately
That would be ironic.
Edit: Never mind I had misread it.
Ideas great but it would open up RUclips to lawsuits so it'd never happen
@@MoistChungus it is a pretty huge problem though, abusing copyright. Do you think it'll be better in the future? Cuz it's getting to be just too much
Is this the new thing for big companies now? Instead of review bombing, they're copyright bombing videos that hurt their feelings?
For Educational Purposes
Copyright Strike or DMCA takedown is the serious stuff with the implications 1 STRIKE STREAMING restricted for 90 days , 3 STRIKES your CHANNELS are DELETED and the ability to create new ones
Copyright CLAIM or Contentent ID Claims is an automated system with the only implication of taking the monetization for the original creator after a period of 1-2 days to dispute
Thursday May 21st, the super cut was watched by me and recommended to me. I have come here to fallow the trail.
He’s the head editor right, if it never met their standards how was it published in the first place. What does he actually do?
Pretends everything is OK and passes it on rather than make them record it again
Typical behaviour of any Indians from India.
Maybe he spends most of his time in a feminist rally?
Red 46 , look im all for being pissed at a guy, but come on, you can’t act like being from India if thats where he is from makes an difference, i know of plenty of people from America that blame scape too, its a human behavior not a race behavior.
@@jesserodriguez6848 honestly alot of people from india are some of the most racist people I have ever met. They are even racist against people in their own country with the same skin color.
Rich, we will ALWAYS be behind you and the tech community. Good fight, and lets stay loud until this issue is fixed!
ISSUES WITH THE BUILD of Verge
Always antistatic surface
Cable ties no tweezers
Screwdriver no hopefully swiss army knife with screwdriver
Antistatic Wristband that connects to the ground no plastic wristband that connects nowhere
IO shield no brace in most motherboards ram at slots USUALLY 1,3 OR 2,4 with a space between first for Dual Channel and push both ends CONSULT YOUR MOTHERBOARD MANUAL
DDR4 with 2666 Mhz is not fast is standard CONSULT YOUR MOTHERBOARD MANUAL usually the first PCI Express is x16 that connects electrically to CPU directly the others go through Chipset CONSULT YOUR MOTHERBOARD MANUAL
Also make sure all the brackets required by your cooler to install and in some cases a backplate (to match the height needed to make contact with the CPU) are inatalled before the motherboard in the case
There are no isolating pads to the Power Supply or PSU they are vibration dumpeners
CPU Socket no holder/slot and carefully match the cpu mark (golden triangle or black dot) with the mark in the socket and place it delicately to the socket DON'T USE APPLICATORS
PSU (power supply unit) fan must face to a position that gets air
If you are using a radiator or AIO NEVER USE THE LONG SCREWS WITHOUT A FAN BETWEEN BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY ARE GOING TO DRILL/PERFORATE THE RADIATOR
With the PSU if you have a modular one be carefull of what cables you use and use the ones you need
CPU coolers come with thermal paste pre-installed for the first time either use it the way it is which is perfectly fine or clean it with ISOPROPYL alcohol and apply thermal paste not the way it's showing also (ReviewTechUSA the pre-installed is thermal paste not thermal pad)
The best practice for years to put thermal paste is A PIE SIZE IN THE CENTER or A GRAIN OF RICE or A LINE BASED ON YOUR CPU DIE IS POSITION look for X-rays of your cpu to identify the way the pressure will spread evenly the paste or SPREAD IT YOUR SELF (with a SPATULA or CREDIT CARD)
Also used all the screws with your cooler in a cross patern if applicable like in the AIO all 4 thump screws
the games used is GTA V and League of Legends doesn't count is not demanding
yeah at ultra to max settings GTA V is quite demanding
June 2020 RUclips recommended me the verge Supercut and a few days later I’m here
As another Kyle I am angry on principle
I respect your decisions in life
Legally change your name to Lyle
@@Astrothunder_ I wanna see Halley Barry in your next movie fam! Cant wait till Chapter 3!!!
That Verge video defines "cringe" 😬 thus their desire for the clip's obscurity. That's exactly one of the main reasons they disabled comments ASAP.
They start the letter by saying they retracted the video because it didn't "meet their standards."
Remember when your parents told you "What you put on the internet, stays on the internet."? This is why.
This video just got you another sub! Love how you told them what's up and didn't hold back. I like seeing people more emotional instead of looking and sounding like they're reading a script.
well at least you can build a pc
Just don't ask him to fit a PSU to a case.
do you think I should order a bicycle from Amazon
I don't see apologies for people insulting nintendo switch online even after tetris 99, makes me a little upset.
Haha, tetris 99 is awesome!
Tetris 99 is that fire
You set ‘em straight Reggie!
Reggie Fils-Aimé at least it isn’t splatoon battle royale
I can see why.
>YT agreed with us, as shown by the fact that they issued a strike
That's not how strikes work on YT with copyright. They're issued BEFORE they're checked, not after
I am just now finding out about all of this. The only reason I found out was I saw a comment about the copyright strike system and using this as an example.
ReviewCopyrightLawUSA
I think their legal team must have the 3 Stooges in charge, not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier!
You gained a fan today. I love how objective you are in all this and it is SO refreshing! ^_^
Maybe they should go back to fighting cancer with their anti static wrist bands....
I thought on the first „dispute“ YT isn’t even involved in the process? Don’t they have to double down that they wanna continue the dispute before something like that happens?
Verge is a joke
And not even a funny one
Rich is Angry 🤐
Verge tried to steal his cucumber 😂
Help! Rich scares me, when he is angry:(
I enjoy to watch your videos man, even though I don’t know what you talk about most of the time, I still learn a bit and enjoy it. Great content man. I also seen a cucumber.
It's weird that the only 2 people to get a strike were the only 2 channels that I watched talk about it
Vox and the verge - why does everyone hate us (copyright strikes critism)
Wow over 800k subs, when did that happen? Last I saw like 600k subs
Whenenver a RUclips channel is attacked by stuff like this they get a ton of unintended exposure and subs skyrocket.
Been following since dude was under a hundred 100k and never thought he would get to this point, a true underdog overachiever.
Him and the quartering are being pushed hardcore.
@@bootcampassistant3301 by whom?
It's the Streisand effect. I hadn't heard of him before this Vox nonsense, and probably wouldn't have, but then those clowns over at Vox/Verge decided to start brutally beating the long-dead horse, and now I know about this channel.
I'm 1:30 in and he has mentioned his "editor" twice. I want to see his W2. xD
Didn't even know about Bitwit before this video.
I'm subscribed to it now. :D
Look into the vic mignogna situation its disgusting
rikoudu Perez can you tell me about it? EDIT: ohhh nevermind it’s the Broly false accusations bs. Yeah it’s extremely disgusting
Can we not? It’s sensitive right now, and so far nothing has been decided as far as I’m aware. Court will take care of it, THEN you can talk about it.
They have slighted the cucumber!
There needs to be consequences for false strikes/claims, such as fines, the ability for the victim of the false claim/strike to sue the company, and or the company making the fraudulent claim/strike must pay damages to the creator.
You can always sue the company. But it is expensive to do so.
"Truth is treason in an empire of lies."
Glad you got a resounding win. Almost at 1 Million Cucumbers!
PS: Richy let's get coffee to celebrate
☕ is the 💣
Destroy them
Vox and the Verge are "no go" channels for me, from now onwards.
crazy to come back to this video and see how much bigger you were Rich. its been awesome to see you change your life!
I hate it when companies damage control with such non-apologies and poor excuses
@Matthew Andrews Must be the corporate ego that keeps them from admitting their mistakes
What is with companies goofing so bad these days smh
Excellent points about those book-burning Brownshirts from the Verge. FYI... there is a typo in the title of this video " *It* Makes Me VERY Angry..."
There's no point in waiting for or expecting an apology from just another scummy soulless corporation. The moment I won the copyright claim I would have done the figurative equivalent of taking a photo wearing a big foam hand with the middle digit extended and putting it out there with their name attached to it.
PewDiePie's farts smell like fascism lol you got me with that one
This video is unavailable due to a copyright strike by The Verge
It's crazy that while I am watching tjis video i get to see ads from "the verge"... What are the odds...
There is something both you (that is ReviewTechUSA) and Bitwit seem to be mistaking - the article states “A ... video we ... made several months ago ... did not meet our standards and [I] had pulled from RUclips” Nilay Patel is referring to the original Verge video being awful and getting removed. Granted that's what editing and editors are for (as far as I know), but I hope this helps clarify. I've not come across your channel before though I'm glad you got the fair use issue sorted, as it clearly is. All the best with future content : )
Love the video, the verge is a plague on the tech community, I think they'll be soon forgotten.
"I'm ready to active my PRIMAL RAGE!" - Rich
First time looking at this channel and I liked and subbed just for the intro *and you make pretty good content
What I don’t understand is how can RUclips just allow these strikes to go unpunished I mean people like rich and Kyle and other creators earn a living on RUclips, there has to be a law passed to protect people’s lively hoods!!!!
Mad respect bro! Standing up for yourself! I've just officially Un-subscribed from the verge!
RUclips should have a *counterstrike* option
Sadly, it doesn't, because Valve is too lazy.
Glad that this all worked out in your favor, Rich. One thing I don’t understand though is why RUclips doesn’t have something in place to penalize individuals or companies for making false copyright claims. Those who abuse the system should have some have some kind of strike put on their channel and after a certain amount of strikes, the channel gets taken down. It’s crazy to me how a company like this is able to abuse the copyright system because they they didn’t like a video and it made them look bad
for those legal people would any bit of the article be defamation?
Unsubbed from the Verge
When tf did u sub
You'll miss their next series. "How to change the breaks of a car" !! WITH THE SAME HOST!
jokes on you i never subbed to begin with same with TYT
-Learn to code-
*Learn to build a PC*
How long has there been a cucumber flying across the intro screen?
Funny that everyone talks about the video but i noticed that the title says " and I makes me very angry." 😂
The dislikes are Verge employees
The should get a strike for making a lot of people build faulty PC's
wait,
I do recall saying the internet doesn't forget i just don't remember the first part
*go to tweet history*
nope not me. i did say the second half though. weird
I just found out about this whole Verge PC build and your channel and all the drama behind this. THIS SHOULD BE A NETFLIX SERIES.
To everyone saying RUclips should start punishing these companies, they should, but they can't. These companies have influence, and could use their platform to call out RUclips and start another adpocalypse.
Jackson Sterling and you do understand if they don't do anything RUclips will be leaving it self open to lawsuits if they keep doing nothing
They the US copyright office could always just start handing out fines for false DMCA claims.
Now that's actually scary
“Real as the nipples on my chest.”
I’ll take your word they’re real
I didn't even know about the pc build video until the other day boy was it horrific
What’s the sfx for your intro called?
*SUE* them
Verge are Apple fanboy, why are ppl surprise that they can’t build a pc. They think that dongle make them a professional.
For some reason this has something to do with apple.... ?
@Luigi I was kinda bored at the time...
The cpu application tool is what separates the men from the boys
@The Office - Deleted Scenes, Bloopers, and Extrasthe applicator separates the men from the boys. How do you not understand.
I'd sue. For them to lose this case and pay attorney, defamation etc. this would also not only earn you $ but also scare other companies from trying to pull the same on the platform.
I like how this "Sorry. Not sorry" apology was hidden in a section of the site that seemingly can't be found from the main portion of the Verge's website. I tried to pull up the apology to read myself and also show it to a friend and couldn't find it on their site and then had to come back and find it by using the link Rich has in the description.