REVIEW: 2020 Duramax 3.0 Diesel
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We're making more, slowly... Be patient this is a pain in the ass.
DEBOSS GARAGE lol who wants a 3.0 liter diesel gross. I have a 2016 Chevrolet express diesel panel work van and I was lucky I got it new and it’s the last year they put the 6.6 liter duramax in the cargo van. I’d never buy a 3.0 liter piece of trash.
Ouch diesel is expensive where you’re at ..!!!! Here in Ottawa Ontario we’re at 84.5 per liter of diesel
Just a thought, but have you ever considered bolting on a couple of sacrificial anodes to your truck frame to help with corrosion? If it helps boats I'd imagine it would help your trucks.
More reviews of vehicles always cool to hear from a master tech what he thinks about certain cars
@@glenmel78 Doesn't work. Sacrificial anodes work in water, they don't work in air.
Deboss, can't find the 2004-2008 fuse box sticker!
You just made a better "real people" ad than GM ever did.
@Pro-Abortion-Athiest-Republican Never-Trumper did you even bother watching the rest of the video? He talk about the potential rust issues on the new truck.
He’s just missing skinny jeans and a man bun
I think you should have watched the entire episode, what you guys are talking about is fast lane truck.
One of the real and honest reviews on the net. NOW if ONLY GM allowed Rich to take a few things apart.
facts
If GM was smart they would hire this guy as a consultant when they build the next generation Sierra.
They kind of try to do new things in new trucks so hiring him as a consultant isn't probably the way to go if they're trying to move forward. What we need is a company or a brand that cares about making simple long lasting vehicles that don't have impressive specs.
When was the last time a large Corp did things that were smart
GM is smart enough to sell 70k piece of shit trucks to fan boys
@@Jeremy-fy1sz this is so true we just need some around this soex that is good on fuel and last 10 years without literally falling apart like every other american truck does after 3 years of owner ship
@@mattbrewer9487 lol i think you got it confused with ford 2015 was the year for got it’s head off it’s ass
This is the kind of reviews I like to see from the mechanics standpoint. As a mechanic I wanna see whats under it and and the mechanical workings....I could care less about most of the inner fancy features and if the ball tickler button is to far to the right of the console like most channels beat to death......and kudos to GM for letting you be honest about there vehicles..they have my respect
I agree 100%. Anybody can put nice plastic interiors in...the tailgate is a gimmick IMO IM concerned with reliability...period. If a guy is gonna spend $67k on a truck it better last 10 years and a couple hundred thousand miles without major problems. I know tons of coworkers who bought the 6.0 Powerstroke and after spending almost $50k on a truck then had to spend another $8k on making it reliable. Thats robbery IMO. Although i love this review and hope he does more....IMO the real facts will be known once this 3.0 fleet starts to reach the 100K+ mile mark...once the warranty is done and they have been on the road for 5+ years then we find out who was swimming naked after the tide went out. 5.9 Cummins 12V no problem...but it remains to be seen how the emissions stuff and longevity of the motor behaves over time.
Camaro 68 you do not want to know. Globally sourced variable speed water thermal control unit aka water pump with multiple valves and an oil pump drive belt behind the flywheel.
dude we rich ppl dont do . we lease , drive 3 years then return...
Fahim Fahhad why would you want a diesel then? Why take the risk you’ll be returning to the dealer for unscheduled repair?
Youll like savage geese reviews if you are interested in cars too.
Anyone who lives in the rustbelt would be beyond lucky to have a video in-depth analysis done by these guys. Worth more than an oil change alone!
I really like your approach on reviews. You don't tell me whats in a spec-sheet I could look up, but you show what will be important owning a vehicle: serviceability and repairability. Good job!
The 3 year report format is an amazing idea as well as the oil analysis. Good way of keeping automakers honest. Can't wait for more content along those lines.
"the best view of the city is in the rearview mirror." 🤣🤣🤣I'm stealing this one.
I put it on a T-shirt, ha!!
This has been one of the best honest looks at a vehicle I've ever seen. Please do more of these!
I second this 👌
@Joe DeMasters - suit yourself... I ain't giving shit to the chinese!
@Joe DeMasters Do the Chinese drive these trucks?
Dash, I watch your videos with big Bertha bbqer in garage or basement for catering
I’d love if you continued doing these reviews. It’s awesome to see this level of honesty by someone who knows what they’re talking about.
Fast lane truck needs to take notes, this is standard-setting stuff. I can't wait to see some year 3 or year 5 reviews.
Fast lane is comparing same model trucks with different set ups like 1 is 4wd and the other 2wd and then saying x engine did better then y engine they are a joke.
FLT seems like they dont have much knowledge or experience
I watch both this channel and TFL but I can definitely agree with you on this
Fast Lane should just donate their subscriber base and move onto something they're good at...
TFL are car and truck nerds.. Not car and truck guys.. Their like a women as long as it starts and everything works they test and eval it.. They have little to no knowledge on how shit works or how to work on it!
They're not interested in having the truck last you 15 years. They want you to buy a new one after your lease is up or after you paid it off.
Haha so true! And so many people do too... must be made of money and/or have no sense.
Right on. GM's business model is based on consumer consumption. This is why every 3 or 4 years the pick up recieves a complete revavamping on top of the mid season refresh. All auto manufacturers. As is our entire Throw away economy. Something breaks? Don't fix it, buy new! More consumption makes shareholder driven companies profitable.
In tech school they would tell us all the time that manufacturers just make sure the vehicle makes it to warranty.
@@TheBlazerSociety i believe it. Im gonna just keep fixing my 19 yr old one. Its before it got too expensive and stuff like old pans and intake manifolds went plastic. Maybe not all cars of this year, but mine is still aluminum.
@@matthewholzmueller6292 No vehicle ever has been an investment. Vehicles are expenses, they do not last forever and they can't.
Digging under the hood, looking at the body lines and panel fitment, and getting it under load! Awesome... you don't see tfl or Doug doing this.
tfl is a joke they compare vehicles with different engines and 1 is 2wd and the other 4wd and different axle rations to boot im sure and act like they have some freaking real opinion to put out when they don't know jack shit.
They can't. They are dependent on OEM's benevolence to hand them their work. They are on their payroll one way or another.
I though gm would have better quality. I was under the impression they had more quality control. It like they splap this thing together and away we go. We are professional grade.
@@zacharyhart8750 I think the quality of build versus lack of investment in materials is the bigger problem here. Minus the lack of protection on the chassis every thing else looks good.
@@persistentwind werent you just saying about the panel gaps?
I had my 2015 GMC oil sprayed at Crown twice since I've owned it. Barely any rust underneath. So yes it costs $100 each time on top of the cost of the truck, but well worth the investment! It probably has less rust than this new one you reviewed.
And yes, I am in the rust belt like you.
Thanks for the GREAT review Rich!!
2003 and same thing. 4 spray and going strong. Never going anywhere else
I have a 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis, it has been sprayed every year since new and it still looks great. It looks better than some 5 year old cars and I live in an area where they salt the roads bad. If you get it sprayed wait for a very dry day.
@@anonymic79 If you don't wait for a dry day it will trap the moisture in and rust quicker.
@@anonymic79 I have been getting my vehicles undersprayed for 30+ years, I have never had them powerwash or spray water near my vehicle, before applying the undercoating. My mind is well! if your trapping water inside your layers of coating explain how that works?
that truck is a piece of s 8it
Bought a trailer that the guy had 100% professionally bed lined when it was new. 15 years later= Worst rust ever. The bed liner will hold moisture underneath with any pin hole.
Oil spray is best i allways tell people and rubber coating or bed liners are crap
Is paint no good?
I don't run bed liners of any sort, I embrace the scratches lol
@@jakepennington8507 Bar and Chain oil... You have to cut it with Gas or Kerosene to make it go through a sprayer, but its the stickiest stuff around.
@@redsite001 Paint can chip and will hold moisture under any cracks. Oil Spray is best.
Thanks for the look into this thing, Rich. I was wondering what the deal was with the 3.0, but 67K for a half ton is daylight robbery.
Finally a REAL world review!
I took me a couple hours to clean it before I gave it back
Deboss score is!
One of the best reviews I’ve seen. It is a different review when someone will have to work on the vehicle, instead of being a typical car review RUclipsr
Loved your style of review. I am one who does not want to see what every button does but am looking for general impression. WELL DONE!
I'm looking at buying this truck and this was the best real review I've ever watched. I love how you didnt bs around with the fancy gimmicky buttons and options. It's about how it drives and what it can do. Great work.
Owner Here 6 months: just looked under mine and there is just as much surface rust as Deboss review truck and I'm in Florida. Since purchase I've had the truck serviced twice for check engine due fan/cooling system failures.
William Huston, RN You are brave to purchase a relatively new engine option.
@@Nostradamus_Order33 yes, but its been working perfectly since the last fix. turned out some rotary valve was failing. Apparently they don't have traditional thermostats, but a valve that diverts coolant throughout the engine based on the demand of the ECU.
@@williamhustonrn6160 sounds shitty to own a truck you can't fix yourself
@@williamhustonrn6160 Yeah bet that is gonna be cheap when you have to fix it and gm isn't footing the bill when its out of warranty.
@@williamhustonrn6160 emissions is ruining diesel reliability..
DeBoss: My honest review of the GM 3.0 Diesel. Scotty Kilmer: Enters Chat
I cant wait for that dude to croak
I'd personally love to see more reviews like this, I think its beneficial to get a look at these new cars and it would definitely help a lot of people choose the right truck for their purposes and since its a genuine strictly business review of flaws it has that it could definitely be beneficial to the manufactures in getting legitimate reviews of performance thoughts and longevity thoughts.
Rust on chassis = finely tuned and controlled lifespan = new truck sold after a determined period.
Chassis swap is not a door swap it's directly straight going to junkyard.
EGR is to reduce NOX by reducing combustion temps,catalyst converter and DPF are to reduce soot and CO.
Fuel and urea in exhaust is too regen the filters,not to reduce emission.
Making fuse box stickers for fords! Who would of thought Deboss Garage would help us ford guys. Thanks man, brilliant!!
Everyone needs more reviews exactly like this
10:27 I’ve seen four or five year old GM trucks with their frames completely rusted. I live in Michigan and the amount of salt we dump on our roads just kills cars. GM’s wax-coated frames are not helping anything. Wax coating works in the south where the wax stays softer, but up north it just flakes and peels right off which traps moisture and dirt against the frame which accelerates frame rot.
I own 2 Silverados and I live in northern states...and you sir are full of shit
If you literally create a rust concoction, don't be surprised it steel gets rusted
Leonard Rice
Which state? Do you live in the rust belt?
I live in Washington state and my 1999 Silverado with 217k miles on the clock looks like brand new underneath.
I work at a gm dealer, it’s a problem with at least 50% of the trucks, the supplier did not prep metal properly and made their coatings look like shit. When the metal has been prepped or the bulletin to repair the wax coating has been completed they handle the cold much better.
Absolutely try and do reviews on new and couple-year-old trucks! That would be fantastic!
100% Keep doing these reviews! I personally am only interested in your mechanical expertise. No one else in RUclips land gives info like you do. I live in Mississippi rust isn't an issue, but I have been burned when it comes to diesel trucks. had a 6.0 ford, 2nd Gen Ram Eco Diesel. both motors blew, had an 08 Duramax also lots of mechanical issues but not drive train related. The only diesels I have had luck with are the 7.3 (2-1995 models, 97, and 02). I currently still have my 95 f-350 Choo-Choo custom dually. Never had a Cummins so I can't speak to those, i know they are good engines. I am very interested in this truck you reviewed tho. I would likely buy the Sliverado just to save the money, even tho I think the Sierra looks better.
Not sure of your typical comment volume but over a 1094, definitely struck a cord with truck buyers , but 127,512 views in 16 days at first glance seems like a very successful review. This is by far the BEST review of any truck I have ever seen, because most reviewers sound like a news reporters with annoying voice inflection and sensationalism. This review was the meat and potatoes of what any hobbiest mechanic all the way to professional mechanic wants to know about. The hardest part is always, what happens, like you mentioned 3 - 5 years down the road. I bought a 2005 GMC Denali because it was much more affordable than the 2012's or so that I was looking at before when I purchased in 2018. I'll never buy a new truck unless I fall into riduculous amounts of money someday, but who really wants that anyway? I just want to make the best decisions for what I can afford. So , maybe buying a 5 year old truck with low mileage, maybe an old guy just used it to pull his lawn clippings trailor 4 times month, and now I have a 5 year depreciated truck for $25,000 less or more than what these brand new shiny vehicles are bringing in. But I was scared off from the Active Fuel Management....a.k.a Dynamic Fuel Management in newer models that GM is putting on everything Gasoline. So, I switched and started watching as many videos about these Straight 6 Diesels with the same torque ratings roughly as the Lb7's had coming out of the early 2000's and now the trucks are getting 26 MPG? That's a fantastic thing, but if I have to spend $70,000 to get that mileage....It would take a long time to make up those savings....I don't want a truck that is designed to fail at 6 years just like everything else, washing machines, refridgerators, microwaves, toasters....At least my Walmart, Plastic MR. COFFEE machine is still brewing my morning sustinence mud. Black Gold. Wisconsin Wake ME UP. I just want to say, I've been a fan of your RUclips channel for a few years now, I used to be a security officer with lots of computer access, and for hours I would watch the AUDI build videos and just be amazed at the fabrication aspect of what you do. Add the humor and genuineness, plus the trips to the junkyard, my dad owned a junkyard in the 1990's when I was a kid through highschool, so I relate to that world, its really enjoyable for me watching this channel. I'll make a point to keep watching reviews like this as much as I can...3, 5, 7 year reviews would be great, and I hope GM gets there self proclaimed elitist egos in check and start making trucks like they used to, tough, reliable, accessible for mechanics to take care of the moderate fixes, instead of using the corporate PROFIT at all costs, until we start seeing drastic sales decline models that piss me off when I so badly want to keep the family tradition of buying GM. We have a 1970 GMC, that can sit for years, pour a little gas in that 350 4 barrel and the beast comes alive. 1985 Suburban loaded for weight and rusted halfway up the doors, but still plows snow just fine. My 2005 Denali has treated me well, still only have 130,000 miles on it, I'm still learning what I need to do to keep the NP149 transfer case doing okay, with AWD ALL the time, but I'm getting there. Doing a fluid change on Diffs, TC, Transmission(rebuilt valve body going in today...TCC Regulator Occalating Valve has a broken spring) so new fluid in Trans again. Figured everything rebuilt easier for me to just replace all solenoids and all valves redone in one shot, since don't have much time to spend on fixing my own stuff as much. Okay, my ramble is done. Thanks again for a great Review Rich. Hope to see more. God Bless.
My issue with grease fittings is some shops over grease the fittings. When they over grease they wreck the boots and let dirt and water in the joints.
This, in addition to shops simply not being able to read a dipstick, are why I started rolling my own vehicle services over 20 years ago now. As such, since I know how to properly use a grease gun, I like the zerks. If body language is any clue, I think Rich likes the zerks too...
my boots are ripped. I just consider it a grease flush every time I grease em
Some people get learned that you grease until the old grease comes out. Which is wrong in some cases
DONT EVER CHANGE THIS REVIEW FORMAT. As a maintainer, these are the reviews we need. 🤘🏻
Every brand new truck seems fine. It's once they get a couple years on them when the problems start showing up.
I don't think i would ever buy a truck for personal use. And if i owned a business that needed trucks I would avoid diesel and replace them every 3-5 years (depending on mileage). And if you need to haul stuff cross country and you "need" diesel, I would get a damn semi. Honestly having a diesel (especially nowadays) in a light-medium duty rig makes no damn sense, especially considering the extra cost of diesel now.
benzlover55 hemis are trash and eat gas, diesel is fine especially if you’re turning them over while under warranty like you’re stating
@@benzlover55 stupid opinion not backed up by any reason nor facts. Diesel is sub 2$ right now and gets 50% better volumetric efficiency or better.
@@Heatherder not where I live it isnt
@@Heatherder regular gas is between 30-40 cents cheaper than diesel here, and thats consistent between all gas stations out here. There's even a few spots local to me where diesel is almost a full dollar more expensive (60-80 cents).
"you guys gotta stop it" LMFAO! Finally not a guy who gets a review and doesn't kiss the auto makers butt.
Hell yes I wanna see more of these. New trucks, old truck, coming off lease, hitting the 200k miles even!
The best review I have seen in a long time... will be looking forward to see the review of the new diesel F-150 and the Dodge ecodiesel
Do more please! This was way more in depth than what other channels do. I don't care about the electronics, I want to know how it is mechanically. The rust you showed was crazy for such a new truck.
This is how you do a review, absolutely love it, well at least for us guys who wrench for a living, all the fluff and tech is cool and all for regular end users who only care about that stuff but for us wrenches you killed it brother!
I would by a GM just for them having the balls to let you be honest.
I don't think they gave him permission..I think he shot himself in the foot
I might consider a GM if they improve their quality. There are a lot of these trucks making several trips in to the dealer with major issues as they rack up a modest amount of miles.
I've worked at GM Truck Paint and Final assembly. Building new lines from 2014-2020. Had no Idea the frames were not painted. They were shipped on railway boxcars. Maybe from Canada. I did notice on the 2020 line final inspection there were small hand pump canisters with spray wands sitting at every station.
Anytime they had media coverage at the Plants. All the trucks on display were inspected and detailed before they were shown. I'm surprised they didn't detail the truck before they let you review it.
I've been told that that Paint on a new truck is the biggest cost item to the build.
@@Hanzyscure Whoever told you paint was the highest cost item was almost certainly wrong. The engine typically represents about 1/4-1/3 of the cost of all trucks from light duty all the way on up to class 8. There's no way a paint job, applied by robots, costs GM than a motor.
Now... In machinery required on the line for production? I could easily see the paint shop being the most expensive building on the campus.
@@TheBrokenLife Yeah I guess the Paint shop and Final assembly plant Managers don't know what they are talking about. Engines don't cost $ 20-30k
That's how a review should be done, great work! Would love to see more auto makers have the balls to have you review their vehicles this way.
I know you like the 10 speed trans, but as a re builder they are nightmares to work on and rebuilds for the 6 and 8 speeds are almost 4K this is a completely electronic valve body that requires reprogramming after rebuilding
"...𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐢𝐬 𝐚 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐲 𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐢𝐜 𝐯𝐚𝐥𝐯𝐞 𝐛𝐨𝐝𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐫𝐞𝐪𝐮𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐬 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐟𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐫𝐞𝐛𝐮𝐢𝐥𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠..."
LOLZ . . . And here I was bitching about rebuilding a MUNDANE HONDA M4TA and the amount of "special parts" that are not available from Honda anymore.
I bet that electronic VB and the software to reprogram it costs a the same as a small house. (⊙_⊙;)
This is one of the best truck reviews I have seen on all of youtube. Everything I wanted to see and hear, none of the frills or focus on the stuff the manufacturers want consumers to focus on (flashy features and numbers). Well done, earned a sub for sure.
I really appreciate a review like this. This is where GM outshines the competition
From someone who bought a Kia, REAL rust protection is a must. 3 years and 93k miles later, I haven't even found rust yet!
Awesome review, you're definitely my #1 review channel for trucks or anything robust. TFL doesn't cut it for me.
Your reviews are no doubt going to have a HUGE following. Getting it on the lift is going to captivate most mechanics and auto builders. Great Vidya gear head. Keep 'em Cummins.
Yes, thank you! All the other reviews for trucks out there talk about how lovely the buttons are. Get these vehicles on the lift!
Man that looks like a great truck. That 3.0 is absolutely perfect for a plane. Lightweight, one piston per journal, strongest architecture for a block, ultra light weight aluminum casting to save weight but reinforced in the right areas. 450hp turbocharged all day with top quality components and studs.
I'm assuming that if you continually drive gravel roads that wax coating would wear off fairly quickly in certain areas .
Excellent review guys. Please please please do long term mechanical reviews if possible. There isn't anyone else out there diving into the mechanicals aside from maybe SavageGeese, and they focus more on cars. Keep up the good work
THAT'S the kind of review the industry needed, thank you. I look forward to the next one.
I work for gm and just had to put a full fuel system on one of these last week. You have to pull the trans out to get the injection pump out and woowee warranty time is 13 hours! It was a doozy!
You can review my 2011 3500HD Duramax that has 843,000 miles on it.
Gene Fugatt wow what if any major mechanical problems have you had?
@@carsonhammond6204 I had to do head gaskets at 510k miles. Other than that, it's just been routine maintenance.
Gene Fugatt right on! No injectors or turbo or anything else?
@@carsonhammond6204 original injectors, turbo and injection pump. I did have to have an injector harness replaced.
Theres a key word here lol routine maintenance will make anything last. Congrats on the 840k miles. Thats badass.
Targeting 3-5 year old vehicles is a fantastic idea.
Like you, not buying new so having some clue about the potential faults in something a bit older is gold.
When I lived in the big city, there was one diesel pump near me. It also happened to be in between two gas pumps so I would have to wait for the spots to open up and barge my way in.
Dude I gotta say my ability to be a nice person is tested when the gas station pumps are empty except the 2 pumps that have diesel both having some idiot in a small car getting $5.00 of gas and then spending 10 mins inside the store.
and here I am places to be shit to do with my trailer sitting there.
@@nou8257 the guy inside looking for tampons
@@David.D3 Prob trying to figure out how the slushie machine works
@@David.D3 🤣👍🏻
@@nou8257 I was sort of that guy once, but in reverse. There was a truck waiting behind me at the one island with a diesel pump. I went in to pre-pay (because I HAVE to have a receipt). Took a few minutes. I came back out, dude in the pickup was clearly starting to lose his cool. Waiting on my Prius.
So I open the back of the Prius and proceed to fill eight cans with 40 gallons of diesel for the tractor. I got done, I waved, he waved, I think we both decided it was kind of funny.
Glad to see some one with the balls to give an honest opinion and review and go after GM for their rust problems. I have seen similar reviews where some one put the 6.2L trailboss up on the hoist and looked under the hood too, however it was clearly done by fanboys who were getting a cheque cause they didn't mention anything about the frame coating.
Really liking this channel, time to go paint the frame on my 04 silverado.
Modern diesels got to a stage where they can be seriously impressive, clean with power and economy while even being fairly refined.
Shame dpf systems have been inflicted on them all.
That whole clean part of what you said is from dpf's
@@rickybobbyracing Ehhhh... The stuff right before EGR, DPFs, and SCR weren't really that filthy either, IMO. When people think of dirty Diesels they're thinking of old 2 stroke Detroits that really are filthy or the guys that tinker with them and roll the coal. It wasn't until fairly recently that offroad stuff had any of that and I don't remember seeing a combine rolling any coal for at least 15 years now. Back in the '80s and prior? Oh for sure they did. Black smoke all the time during harvest.
@@rickybobbyracing 2004 Cummins, no mods of any kind. 275k miles, and not one puff of smoke...not even cold. A diesel can never be as "clean" as a gasoline engine, and can't tolerate the methods used to make it so...simple fact.
@@seanhazelwood3311 My old 6.5 diesel is named Smoky for a reason. The old pos smokes constantly idle or driving it doesn't care it just does it but that's an idi diesel for you and parts are so nice and cheap for it compared to my other stuff and it's pre emissions bullshit too.
@@nou8257 I meant that a pre-emissions diesel, in good repair and relatively low miles, is about as clean as can be expected for a diesel engine yet still be reliable. Yes old, high-mileage diesels smoke; but so do equivalent gas engines.
Hands down best review I have seen. This is the kind of things we need to know before spending this kind of money on a vehicle. I would love to see one of these for all the top end trucks and your honest opinion on the best buy. I feel you understand the importance of reliability, not just cute features. Thank you for this!
That’s what I like to hear brother I want you to do more of these. You tell it like it is. I couldn’t give a damn about button locations, I have a new 2020F250 and that thing had more buttons than a 737 in it.
The 19 ram 2500 im going to look at in a few days has a 12" screen in it so it gets to replace most of the buttons i'd say.
Your reviews are awesome, no fluff, straight to the point. I’d like to see your take on Rams 4th Gen 3.0 diesel. Specially since they’ve been out for 5-6 years now
10/10 GREAT review
keep this up!
Great review. Loved the fact you showed the frame! You're right, they need to do better on rust protection, and the prices are getting silly. I've got a 2015 Ram 1500 and I plan on keeping it, but I do worry that they don't make trucks with longevity in mind, and that the 10 year obsolescence will be a problem. Mind you they've built alot, and with the Ram Classic they're still making it so hopefully parts won't be an issue.
Any idea why they put the timing chain on the back of the motor?
Loved the review, I work in construction and a lot of guys are buying these new diesels. I just can't justify the price only to get dented , scratched and not to mention a lot of them are having problems with there trucks, mainly emission crap here in Cali.I'll keep my two 01 3500s. There both payed off and the 5.9 Cummins may not be as fast, but she reliable and pulls great for me.
Love the channel keep up the good work.
The idea of doing a 3yr old truck review sounds awesome.
Thank you for the sticker. I can finally erase the sharpie in my fuse box 😂😂
Love your comments about examining the truck after 3-5-10 years. Most of us own older trucks and that is what is important to me! Thanks!
Really informative review that keeps one's attention with all of the soft humor.....eh. Well done with the looking at specifics for body fit, what's under the hood, underneath the vehicle, and how it performs. Enjoyed the video and learned something to boot. Keep up the informative reviews and humour.
Great video. I have a 2018 Chevy Colorado z71 here in Trinidad and Tobago. Recently I have been seeing some really bad and frightful reviews of Chevy midsize pickup truck leading me to think that I have purchased a piece of junk. In November this year 2020 this vehicle will be two years and I am keeping my fingers and toes crossed. So far I have had absolutely no problems with my Colorado. Peter.
#2 not bad... Close enough for me I'll watch it again!!
I purchased 2020 GMC Sierra SLT crew cab with the 6.2 and the Multi Pro tail gate. The first thing I did was have it undercoated by the dealer using a product made in NH called NH oil undercoating and they are respected for having a great product. And I will have it touched up if needed in 3 years. Engine and the transmission run great with plenty of power and the transmission is silky smooth. I really like the Multi pro tail gate and believe Chevy will be offering it in 2022. So with 7000 miles I'm very happy with the truck. One more thing about undercoating it's cheap insurance and I believe it's well worth $350.00.
Good review, Rich. I've never had the funding to even remotely consider a fullsize truck that wasn't already rusty so I had no idea about GM not actually painting the frames. That's pure lunacy! I think just about every guy here would pay an extra $5k for a full rhinoline option on a truck that expensive. I'm sure we're in the minority as the buy and drive forever demographic though and most buyers wouldn't. What a tragedy!
As others have stated...YES. This is exactly the type of review I want to see. Not that the infotainment system can send emails and you can change the color of the accent lights. Thank you...yes...please keep these coming.
This engine and transmission would be awesome in a 50's chevy or gmc truck. Too bad it will probably never be offered as plug and play setup.
just wait a couple years, im sure you'll be able to find one of these with a rotten frame in a junk yard.
Just put a cummins in it far less wiring bullshit it has aftermarket support and it won't break the bank to work on it plus gm has never been good at diesels by themselves case in point the olds 5.7
@@nou8257 I have no interest in owning a 50's chevy or actually having this project. Just stating it would be an interesting combination. Sticking a Cummins in everything is like sticking a 350 Chevy in every street rod. Yawn, it's been done a thousand times. This is also coming from someone that has a Cummins powered Ram and a '05 5.9 and '08 6.7 engines sitting in the garage (one which will be going in a 1933 Dodge Brothers 1.5 ton truck).
@@jamessheets9205 Ok put a 2 stroke detroit in it and also 350 chevy is the past its all ls swaps now or coyote swaps we need more tdi and 2 stroke swaps.
@@nou8257 But why the two cycle detroit? I thought you said gm was never good at diesel engines? It's hard to go back to a mechanic engine once you've had a common rail.
Deboss, I respect your opinion on this truck. You do know what your talking about and I love that I found someone like yourself! Honesty! So, I’d been looking at the big 3 truck with 3.0 Diesels. After watching your video with the GM truck, I did my homework and yes I bought one in Essex Ontario from Jeff Smith Chevrolet in January. It’s a 2021 Silverado 3.0 diesel. I love it? Thank you Deboss! You sold one!
PS I traded in my 2009 GMC Sierra 5.3 with 280,100 km.. I won’t miss it now driving a diesel!
This was a fantastic review! By far the best review of this truck! Hopefully GM won't be too mad at you and you'll get to do more reviews like this in the future. ;)
I’m a salesman in Upstate NY, we’ve had a few of these trucks pre owned pass through the store and they sell pretty quick, people seem to be pretty happy with them.
Thanks for the info! I'm excited that the diesel is in the Tahoe now.
When i talked to my local dealer about this truck. they said the 5.3 towed more than the duramax and 6.2 because it weighed less. Every pound the truck weighs is 7 pounds it can't tow.
6.2 weighs almost the same as a 5.3, and is in fact capable of towing more in the same configuration. As for the 3.0s tow rating, lots of factors could be effecting that such as cooling capacity perhaps. Not making excuses for it, just pointing out the engines ability to physically move a larger weight is likely not the sole contributor.
sounds like your dealer is trying to push some 5.3 s
@@davidjames5727 every dealer does that shit.
@@robert91rs I recall watching a video about the reasoning behind the low towing numbers from the 3.0L Duramax. They wanted to bump up their MPG numbers and figured if someone was towing over 9,000lbs regularly, they should buy a 3/4 or bigger pickup... Which definitely makes sense to me.
Dealer will tell you anything they think will make the sale
3.0l straight 6 diesel - very nice. Although the 3.0 V6 diesels are excellent, the straight 6 is always better from a maintenance perspective, and smoother as well.
Did I hear "belt driven oil pump"? I wouldn't sleep at night knowing my $80,000 truck was a thrown belt away from total engine failure.
Is just the beginning . . . now all the others will start copying their stupid ideas. Kinda like Cali and the rest of the country.😒
It’s also on the rear of the engine with the timing chain so you have to drop the transmission just to change it. This engine had so much potential and was ruined by intentionally shit engineering
It was a deal with Ford to keep people from buying all the blown up Fords with good bodies and swapping these Duramax engines from their rust failed trucks. Have to eliminate the secondary market to keep the truck prices sky high.
Engineers don't have to work on their own products.
Jellyfrosh Why’s this a concern though? It’s a chain, it’s not a service item. You could just leave it alone.
When I bought my 2016 3500 it came with 7 years rust warranty and lifetime if you put the electric module in. That is in British Columbia. Loved your review, nice seeing an honest real world review that looked at more long term issues.
Damn, lost the 95000 lbs tow rating? 😂😂😂
Lol
@@oldcroneysgarage9739 ford 150 gas pulls more then this 2020
Dave Campbell 84 Chevy also looks better then this Cadillac with a truck bed
Still has a 400A power outlet though... (I believe he intended 400W).
Maxwelhse I hope so.
Rich I loved the review. I’ve never seen an actual honest review before. All the ones I see are talking about how cool the infotainment is and how many buttons it has. And because of your honesty, good luck getting another vehicle to review. Thanks for keeping it real!
This is unfiltered wholesome content.
The best vehicle review I have ever read or viewed. And I have read/watched many thousands in my lifetime of cars and trucks!
gluing the fuse box page from a manual to the fuse box lid takes 2 minutes.
You the guy who would rip pages out of a phone book?? Lol
@@jasonhooey5677 yup.
The automaker should continue to have you review their products. The honesty is what we want above all. Some of the stuff like you said can be over looked like the rust if you live in texas. Great review.
As someone who lives in northern Ontario that wax on the frame hurts me deeply
Meanwhile here in the south of the u.s in tn my 87 k1500 still has factory frame paint.
@@nou8257 oh my I wish, my 2009 car has had the rockers replaced twice from rotting right out
Yeah, the first gravel road at speed will sand blast that wax right off....
Also in my area they use brined sand on all the main roads...stripped the paint right off the Nissan work van the first year I had it.
@@muddyducker3336 Nissan merely hears the word salt and then starts rusting...
I have a new Silverado with the Dmax and I’m really happy with it. I get nearly 1000 kms on a tank doing highway and it’s so refined as a daily driver.
That stupid frame wax I really hope they do see this
Very well done! I have a similar trim 2020 Sierra to this one. I also love the 3.0L diesel engine and 10 speed transmission. Got to love that Ontario salt!
I ended up editing my comment at the same time you liked it, didn’t realize you were also from Ontario. Keep up the good work!
Great video, Guys. I have a 2017 Canyon 2.8 Duramax in Hamilton , Ontario you’re welcome to dissect. It’s had Krown applied every year so it may be a good case study to see if it actually offers any benefit.
Matthew Clarke canyons are e coated not wax dipped so it’s different.
Josh MacDougall - Frankly I’m shocked to learn from this video that the full size trucks are only wax dipped. I know the GMT 900 frames made in London were wax, but I figured they’d have progressed by now. With respect to mine, regardless of the type of factory coating, I’m still curious to know whether the Krown spray offers any benefit. In my mind ~$120/year is cheap insurance against corrosion. Or is it? Generally I’m happy with the Canyon. It gets better fuel economy than my wife’s Camry and does everything I ask of it while still fitting in the garage. My biggest apprehension about this truck was the 6L50 transmission. I think it’s the highest torque application of that transmission and I worry about its long term reliability. But what do I know.
Matthew Clarke krown is a great investment just never pressure wash your frame if you have the waxed one and never use fluid film on waxed frames it makes it worse.
The sound bite of it pulling out the trailer was awesome!
When he said tuning at PFI...... Brent's PFI?
I would love to see reviews on older 1-3 year old vehicles. Expecially if the owners kept accurate documentations on repairs, fuel economy etc.
Rich, Did you have a full detail before you got in that truck , I've never seen you so clean LoL
Since you asked. YEAH! I'd love to see a deboss review on more trucks/cars/suvs. I wish there were more reviews that were this indepth. Oil change + headlights + panel gaps... If someone could name 1 other reviewer that does that then you've enhanced my world, but i have yet to see this sort of all around, "everything a owner needs to know" sorta review. I understand we can't get a longevity understanding on these engines since their new, but top notch!
That wax concerns me being from Minnesota!!! AAAAAAnd it’s gone. “the frame”
I live in MN and my 2015 Silverado had a lot of rust after one winter. There was a TSB for it, for people that complained. I am a good complainer. They painted on some black "paint" where they could get to the frame. It is better than nothing but truly sucks to have spent so much only to have a rusted frame one year out. Here I am 5 years out and wherever they did not touch up, is apparent, as it is total rust.
@@richardfenton1769 Yeah I’ve realized its not worth having a nice vehicle in Minnesota. Either it rust away or some dink slides into it in a Walmart parking lot.
This has been the only realistic truck review I’ve ever seen
rubber oil pump belt seems like a very terrible idea
they shouldve made it a V-band belt with a hydraulic tensioner B-)
@@snoofayy6150 🤣👌🏻
probably not as much as people make it out to be. Its not like the belt is driving the power steering, AC, alternator, etc plus it will not dry out due to it being submerged in oil.
@@brjha but if it fails or slips and your oil pressure fails to warn you you have to purchase a new engine.
Big differences.
Also if you pay to replace that belt and its half way done you get a bonus of buying a engine and transmission since they have to drop that to get one belt.
But that never would happen since all stealership only have the most honest and knowledgeable people in service centers. 🙄
@@NatureRecycleFlorida All true, but at least GM was transparent about it as opposed to burying it in the owner's manual so that there are no surprises when it finally happens. I think this will be a good long-term engine albeit numerous first-generation issues.
I recently started restoring a 1979 C10. Of course there is rust in the usual suspect areas of the cab floor. As I get more into it though, I am absolutely amazed at how the seam sealers and undercoating they used back then held up. For most of the frame and cab, I can scrape said coating away and literally see shiny factory paint beneath it.
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