Positions on the Violin - 1st, 2nd & 3rd & Where They Are!
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- Positions on the violin - 1st, 2nd & 3rd & Where They Are!
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Thank you as a beginner violinist I really appreciate the amount of time you spend making these really helpful videos!
I'm a newly violin enthusiast.. and your videos have been very helpful for me... Please continue to teach us through your videos.. God bless you.
thank you so much. you are just incredible. I thank the lord for all your great video. and I also like the way you teach
Thank you! Miss Alison for all your helpful violin videos, I'm 18 and planning on buying a violin. I know it's not too late to learn a new instrument and your videos are awesome. Not hard to understand, I'm preparing myself in advance so that when I finally buy a violin, I'll have the knowledge. Good Luck to Me ;)
Thanks a bunch! I'm new to the violin and didn't fully understand what second and third positions were, but your video made it extremely easy to understand.
Thank you so much! This video and the sheets were so helpful.
Please don't apologize about things we can see how amount of time you effort for us to understand where the positions that was so helpful thank you
You can also get a cling for the violin with positions. I found it on Amazon. It is called Fretless Finger Guide for Full (4/4) Size Violin. It is a cling so it has no adhesive. I'm going to try it!
hi !! teacher ..... thanks for share UR knowledge.... I admire you so much ....i learned so mucho with you.... God blessing U ..... Have a gread day ,,,,,,,,
Thank you soo much for your hard work and dedication to help beginners play in tune.... M new to violin n ur videos is helping me a lot❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
it's really beautiful and amazing. I don't have a teacher to teach me violin but by watching your tutorial on youtube, I now can play the violin, not perfectly of course but enough to impress the lady that I like. Thank you so much for your effort. You really changed the world. ( this is a fan from vietnam :))) ... you are international star :))
Wow , thankssss a lot . I am from Iran and I can't buy anything internationally and you put this amazing file for us for free , just wish you the beeeest . God bless you.
Great tutorial Alison! You always go above and beyond the call of duty. It appears to me that the first position covers the first two octaves in music. It all depends how far one wants to advance with a particular instrument. Two octaves suffice for me. Besides, playing above two octaves is rather ear piercing for me anyway.
In fact every instrument I play, including the violin, I play in only two octaves. For example, even though the concert flute and Bb clarinet play in three octaves - I play them in only two. I literally have thousands of pieces of sheet music, including over 700 hymns that are written in only two octaves (first position).
Incidentally as you know, there are instruments that inherently play in only two octaves. My first instrument is the Bb trumpet which is a two octave instrument for obvious reasons.
BTW: It is my understanding that you don't advocate fret marks for the violin. I personally have never used them when learning to play the violin. I've always relied on muscle memory, finger positioning, and the sound of each note to guide me. Admittedly it has taken me longer to learn to play the violin that way, but it was well worth it. If I want to play an instrument with fret marks, I turn either to my ukulele or mandolin. 😉
Thank you very much. One could not explain it any clearer. Awesome. A thousand thumbs up.
It won't ruin the fingerboard... Also you can make smaller tapes and stick them into position without the hassle of taking off strings... Hope this helps :-) and a great video
perfect amount of detail, perfect pace of giving the information, thank you.
Thank you so much for doing this. I always have trouble with shifting and tend to get confused and mixed up (after shifting) with my fingering. It is so convenient to just see all the notes laid out and practice memorising the shifted notes.
it might be the bow you have. If its a cheap one, then they sometimes tend to do this. I would just get the bow to a nice sensible tightness and carry on - as long as its not too tight.
Probably I am wrong, but surely Im confused. Just printed your positions paper, which by the way is really useful to me now, but on 2nd finger, first position, Shouldn't be B flat in the upper position? Im just learning to understand how this works. You are doing a great job promoting violin play, people like you make the difference, hope everything goes well for you in this project. Thank you very much!
Thanks mam for the lesson but,if I may ask how many 3rd position do we have for the key of G major please 🤔🤔
Thanks Alison! So helpful & visual. I love all your attention to detail, & creative ways of explaining things in all your videos. I appreciate this handout.
Alison! You're such a Queen!!!
Finally a GREAT and DETAILED explanation on positions! needed that.
I thank you so much!!!
You rock, my band wants me to play Devil Went Down to Georgia, I can play some Irish tunes fairly well, but your videos are really pointing me in the right way and reducing my "freak out" tendencies
Thanks a ton for putting this information together in such concise form. I was juat recently researching & putting together maps for 2nd/3rd position (took a break just after mapping 2nd lol) so I know how much work you must have invested. Very much appreciated a keep up the great work!
Hi thanks for this video! I am a beginner.. I noticed you put Bb after B, isn't it the other way?
Thank you very much Ms Alison Hope all is well! Blessings! In all that you do!
Hi again, I saw it on amazon so I could get it from there where I live (Portugal). So you don't know if it is good or not for a starter?
Any ways thanks you very much for your reply :)
Personally I dont see the need to do that as it makes it harder in the long run, but if your teacher says, then best to do what they say.
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Great video!..I was looking everywhere for an explanation for the sticker..I bought the sticker with the violin and didnt know the exactly notes..Thanks a million
Can you help me. When i tighten my bow and play it, it touches the wood but plays perfectly. But when i untighten in about the width of my pinkie finger its kinda loose a little and produces a little sound
Thank you so much. you were so sweet you really did that for us
Maybe I missed something, but on 2nd position, say you were playing on the E string, do you place your first finger on G and move it forward for G# or do you place you finger on G# and reach back to hit G. Or does it depend on what you are playing? Thanks!
in second position on say the E string:
F#
G 1
A 2
B 3
C 4
Everything moves up one. You would put your 1st finger on which ever G the music tells you too. If the key signature says G#s then you put your 1st finger where you would put a G#.
Hey Alison, a problem I have is changing the strings while playing, any advice? Like going from a G on the D string to a B on the A string. I have all 3 fingers down and then I have to like jump to one finger on the A string. Am I supposed to do that? Is it something I'm just supposed to practice to make quicker and more precise?
I downloaded the sheet and to my surprise I loved the hand writing HAHAHA! Its the content that matters really.
Haha, obviously the days before I knew what a computer was!! This video is SUPER old!
Ah as old as the Jurassic era! And you looked the same! Don't you age? What are you??
Excellent!!! Thanks for taking the time to do that for all of us!
I just think its practise. I cant see that there would be any problem there as you just lift up the 3rd finger and place the 1st down on the new string.
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Second could you please do a video on the pros and cons of a electric violin?
And at last what do you think about the Cecilio Silent Electric Violin type 1? Would you recomend it for a starter?
Once more awesome videos :D
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The position paper doesn't seem to match 4/4 size violin
Hello! I’m just beginning violin but I’d like to ask why is there a need to shift positions instead of just crossing strings to play the notes?
For various reasons. You might have to jump 2 strings to get to the note. You might not be able to reach it, it might only exist in a higher position...
Thank you so much, Alison! I really needed this for 3rd position D: !
I've seen the dots on your fingerboard before, where did you find those? My teacher told me today that I should put a sticker on my fingerboard for the fourth finger, both as a reference for that finger and also to help since I'll soon be learning other positions. I'm not too keen on it, don't want to ruin the fingerboard of my violin, but I kind of like the dots (yes, I realize that's probably silly lol), and was hoping you could help me find some or figure out how they work? Thanks!
I get dot stickers from a stationary store and i put them on and take them off for loads of my violin videos to demonstrate and they do not leave a mark on my fingerboard at all. I would not put them on my violin if they did!
I like using stickers as they help to reaffirm your intonation as its really hard to place your fingers accurately on the stings if you dont know what the sound should be in the first place.
Thank you thank you so so sooo much...it really helped me a lot...bless you
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Hi Alison, Love your videos and lessons BUT i always, always have trouble finding your links! And it seems I am not the only one as you yourself say people keep asking you where are your links. I am fully conversant with computers but I always have trouble...
I know this video is old but thank you :) it helped me a lot
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This was so helpful! Thank you so much!!!
Very good tutot
I so far have learned only D and A string, with E, F, G on the D and B, C, D on the A. Is that just "part" of 1st position? so do the stickers go where you showed on your other video, the one with the purple ruler? 1st @3.6cm 2nd@6.8cm and, 3rd@8.2cm???
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I don’t know if the problem is the strings on my violin, but I have a difficulty here
I am using a chromatic tuner to see the perfect pitch of each note.
So the first position first finger is: (from g to e string): A, E, B, F#
When I put the finger in the G and D string to make an A and E (first finger) is a little unequal, To make B in A string I have to climb the finger a little and for F# I have to put the finger way lower compared to B in the A string. So it’s not a horizontal line like the tapes you are putting. It’s a little zig zag I have for the first finger.
Now for second finger in first position, I see a way larger difference: My middle finger when playing G in the E string is very close to the F# first finger
It doesn’t happen with other strings
Is this normal? Ps: my violin is perfectly in tune
Im not sure exactly what is happening here? The 1st fingers will 'pretty' much be in a line, but not an exact straight line.
its why I use dots to place in the 1st and 3rd finger positions, right in the middle of the two strings - this way you can see where your finger(s) need to go, but can slightly alter things.
If you are saying that you have to adjust each finger by as much as you say, then either your violin is set up very poorly, or your strings are not quite in tune.
The Online Piano and Violin Tutor
Here’s the distance between E and D string. G,D and A string have more distance compared to E, that’s what it is worrying me, cause I know the first has aproximatelly 1 finger of distance from the second finger, the second finger is close to the third finger, and the third finger is 1 finger of distance from the fourth finger (sorry if my English is bad)
Here is a link: postimg.cc/gallery/32cvslg7m/
Look the second finger in the E string is very close to the first finger (this is first position)
D string: notes E and F#
E string: notes F# and G
If I do try to make the same thing in the E string as I did with the D string, it’s gonna become an A (third finger in the E string)
PS.: I ended up breaking my A string as I was trying to fix this problem, but it doesn’t alter the position of the notes (obviously) but just wanted to point it out since you are not going to see an A string in this image
I dont know what to say. Im at an absolute loss as I have never in all my 20 years of teaching students, have I ever come across this before.
The fist fingers will more or less be in a straight line across each string. There may be a millimetre difference, but essentially, you shouldnt need to move.
The first finger dot you have on the E string, is not in the F# position. Its placed in the F natural position - either that, or the first finger dot you have on the D/A string is wrong.
Either way, your dots are wrong, or your violin is not as in tune as you thought. Or, more likely, when you put the dots on, your strings were not in tune.
I can only suggest you take the violin to someone who can physically help you as I cant help with something like this over the internet as I cant hear the violin.
The Online Piano and Violin Tutor hey, I have a finetuner there is like a bar behind the finetuner, that connects to the finetuner (screw) , but for my E string this screw is not touching the bar, and when I put back to where the bar was after loosening the string, when I started tightening again, the screw just doesn’t connect to the bar...
So I can only tune with the pegs... this is the variance of the E string...
Do you think it’s a problem to have an E string more tuneful than it has to be?
Idk how to solve this, but when I try to turn the pegs when I control the screw to be above the bar, it seems the pegs gets loose, like when I turn, it returns backwards. If I don’t control the finetuner/screw, then the finetuner just gets in a side and the bar on the other
Help me pls ;-;
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miss alison sparrow one question here.....can I practice higher notes with the help of a tuner like "gstrings" a mobile app,will it work if I put marks on the finger board according to the tuner app and then practice.....so no need of finger board sticker or etc.please please reply
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+Kamble Nnr Im not sure as I dont know the app you are referring too. You could try...
+The Online Piano and Violin Tutor "gstrings"a android app...I saw in your video 8 different ways to tune your violin
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thank you so much for your effort :*
I am not sure you would still respond to this video since it is 5 years old. But I have a question about positions. There is this one piece I play which is horrible for finger positioning "Malaguena" by F. Tarrega in any other key but G. Even then it only goes smoothly if for one part I drop back one note so that my middle finger is playing a B natural on the second string. I might be possible in a higher position. I haven't looked at that since I want the fullness of the open strings that occur in the key of G. So here is my question: What do you call that position?
Sounds like (if I understand you correctly) you are in 1/2 position. It’s not a ‘position’ as such, but it is of sorts.
Thank you. 1/2 position wouldn't have been my first guess.
Thank you, this was very helpful
The link isn’t working :((
hi. i am very interested in all of your videos. thanks so mch for all.
where can i find the notes of different positions? like the paper of yours?
the link is right under the video
It says that the sheet you're using is "coming soon."
Thank you so very much
Oh yes, Im having to do another sheet as i cant find the original. ASAP...
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!
To see all the links you must click the show more tab.
Thank you thank you!
Verry nce
Thank you.
i dont know how to play the violin but i have one and i know the strings names but the sheet is just so confusing for me and i was wondering if you can explain it to me in an easy way to undertands all those letters ..
+jasmincitaa Perez There is no other way im afraid.
+The Online Piano and Violin Tutor what would you recommend me then?
+jasmincitaa Perez go to amazon.com and buy a book called fiddle time jobbers. it will help you
+SHADOWMAN296 thank you so much!!
A year to late but one extremely easy way for me to learn to read G-clef sheet music is for notes on the lines remember E.very G.ood B.oy D.oes F.ine (bottom to top) and F A C E for the notes in between the lines from there, when you count really high notes start from F and follow the alphabet up till you get to the note on the paper (vise Vera for lower notes)
Is a 4/4 a full size or a 3/4?
Taylor Morgan 4/4 is full sized, sorry I'm terribly late!
thanks
Thank you soooo muchhhhhhh
I dont know how to make a mark in 5th position, Is there any measurements?? 😭😭😭 Please Help 😭😭😭
Khen Base Its not usually a position that gets marked. If you are playing 5th position, then usually one is advanced enough to know where it is and not need the markings.
tank you
hello I have a question it is hard for me to understand because my English is not very good, so my question is on the sheet in first position the finger one represents the first white lane and the yellow lane?
or the yellow lane and the second white lane?
I dont have the DontFret sticker so I dont know which is which, but they will both be for the 2nd finger. One will be the 2nd finger where its next door to the 1st finger and the other 2nd finger will be stretched right next to the 3rd finger.
For example, on the D string you would get an F natural with the 2nd finger close to the 1st and an F# with the 2nd finger close/next to the 3rd finger.
okay..thnx
miss alison sparrow can you please make one long strip of the notes and a little bit colourful one. cause the one which you made I've downloaded it! and also attached it on my violin but it is a little bit confusing please make a longer one....
+Kamble Nnr If you dot like the one i did here for free, then your only other option is to buy one from the internet.
Press on -SHOW MORE-
do i not say they are under the video? They are under the video - i promise.
How old r u
The Cute And cuddlie Channel A lady never tells her age... ;)
don't be upset about how many positions are on the violin
Link is broken for me... Thanks for the vid though, helpful. I watch and enjoy many of your videos but I must say you should rethink your intro because it's very jarring, loud, and annoying.
I'm the only one that thought she looked angry at the start of the video?
I probably did haha
Well my teacher makes me keep all 3 fingers down instead of just keeping my 3rd down
£6.95 for the sticker now...
that was stupid, I'm sorry. I know a 4/4 is a full size.