Todd Rogers in August of 2022 achieved the world first frame rule bus skip by starting the bus in 2nd gear. Not even a TAS can recreate it the strat is so cutting edge. Just another monumental feat in his Hall of Fame career. Great video and explanation of the manipulation.
I can see these Todd Rogers jokes Ala Chuck Norris going a long way to amuze like 5000 people. In an unrelated story, Todd Rogers once beat Trevor Berbick's Punch Out with less than 10 punches.
MTPO has shockingly sophisticated coding for when it came out, especially when it comes to speedrunning. Every time I watch a video about MTPO I learn something new. Stuff like the scrambler and punches dealing extra damage on specific frames is amazing to hear about.
This was a great video. Just a very minor correction: the numbers you show are all one-byte long. For instance, FF is a one-byte value. When you look only at the right hex digit, you are actually just looking at the least significant four bits, i.e. the least significant nibble. A nibble is half a byte. Another way of looking at it is that to obtain just the least significant nibble, you can 'bitwise and' the number with #$0F, which will zero out the highest four bits.
You said before that you want to do a world record progression video for every fight in Mike Tyson's Punch Out except Mike Tyson. This is because Summing Salt did a video on that fight already. I still think that you should do it. The record for Mike Tyson has gone a long way since Summoning Salt's video, and he wasn't as good at making WR progression videos back then.
Ill get there (hopefully). TBH there is nothing to really talk about for Don 1, King Hippo and Great Tiger. I decided to atleast do this video for King Hippo though.
@@Papamanual I'd still love to just have them all for completion. If they all are super trivial, maybe just make 1 video out of those 3 fights? As for this video, great content as always :)
I have a feeling all of the creators that make speedrunning content talk to each other and thought it would be hilarious to try incorporating the bus analogy in their videos.
As a software developer I find this amazing that something like this got cracked. Bravo to the Punchout Speedrunners!! Bravo!! Makes me wonder what some of the community do for a Living.
It was in trying to fact-check this video when i learned that a byte isn't strictly 8 bits, so you weren't wrong to call 0-F a byte. Truly I am humbled.
This is another magnificent video Pap. The Hippo-Manippo, and how it works on a fundamental level, has been a bit hard to describe but you made it so clear and evident. Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge. I have learned so much from watching your videos and gameplay. Thank you.
Very impressive for a game that was released in 1987 for all the background data that’s going on. I cannot imagine what’s going on in the data in today’s games. Mind blowing
I love it when people just completely deconstruct the code like this. It's so amazing. Maybe I'm more in awe because I barely read assembly and don't code at all...
Aaaa, the "F" on the right isn't a byte, it's four bits, more properly termed a nybble, or just, four bits. The whole byte is FF. It's really a minor point, but I figured I should say something. It's still a great video!
My other comments are stupid but seriously here: I did actually used to beat this game one handed while loading and smoking weed with my other hand, as a kid. 1998 I could have never comprehended there was anybody better than me at Punch Out.
Something I'm curious about, is why is this not useful in Don Flamenco 2 runs? Couldn't you hard reset, put in the passcode, and by starting the fight on a specific frame and doing well timed inputs, manipulate a bunch of random stars?
Thats a good question... I dont know the answer for sure, but as far as I know, the check for random stars happens very late (after atleast 1 bit rotation) so it is basically uncontrollable for humans
@@Papamanual it doesn't have the intro cutscene so it is technically quicker Tbh still useless i swear to miyamoto JUST COZ TYSON LOST TO BUSTER DUGLAS DOESNT MEAN YOU DON'T RENOVATE I honestly think it is not useful
Unfortunately yes. There is no progression for him. No one knows when the first 0:14.97 time happened but the earliest description of such a strategy was in 1998 by Martin Charlebois. SInce then, this is the confirmed TAS time and no further improvements have been found.
@@Papamanual I thought there would have been something before '98, but I guess the strategy was just too simple. I guess before the days of Charlebois the simple 'left right' combo was all they did.
ew.com/article/2003/05/13/we-rank-100-greatest-videogames/ And my source for this link was the first paragraph on wikipedia. But really, do these people actually know anything, are their opinions any more valid than mine... Im a person and I say its one of the greatest video games of all time, im sure i could find someone with similar opinions given unlimited time and resources.
Maybe for you but a lot people that grew up when the NES came out would consider it such. Got my NES for my 7th birthday in 87 and I’d consider it a top game of all time. Estimates have the number of video games on traditional platforms at around 93k. Can easily be argued Mike Tyson’s Punchout is in the top 250 and an even easier argument for top 500 both of which would classify it as a greatest game of all time.
@@Zazzaro703 I did grow up during that time. I remember going to a friend's house with a NES who had just gotten it a week or so before. He showed it to me, literally finishing every fighter in one try and Mike in two. Thats part of the reason I never bothered with getting a NES. By that time, far better games were out on PC. Any of which would be in the top 100, and far better than Punch Out. People just like Punch Out, as it has nostalgia for them, it wasnt all that interesting of a game. Its literally pattern and sound recognition. Jeez, people can literally complete it blindfolded.
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Todd Rogers in August of 2022 achieved the world first frame rule bus skip by starting the bus in 2nd gear. Not even a TAS can recreate it the strat is so cutting edge. Just another monumental feat in his Hall of Fame career. Great video and explanation of the manipulation.
*Todd Togers
Rodd Togers is a crafty one
I can see these Todd Rogers jokes Ala Chuck Norris going a long way to amuze like 5000 people.
In an unrelated story, Todd Rogers once beat Trevor Berbick's Punch Out with less than 10 punches.
The bus has finally made its way to a MTPO video.
MTPO has shockingly sophisticated coding for when it came out, especially when it comes to speedrunning. Every time I watch a video about MTPO I learn something new. Stuff like the scrambler and punches dealing extra damage on specific frames is amazing to hear about.
Love these- I learn a bunch even if I've already known about a concept. I didn't know about delaying different frames on Hippo Manippo!
Yo, Kosmc in da RING! 💪😎✌️
Get destroyed, lol
my best friend Ray taught me about the Hippo 3-cycle in 1988
Thanks to people like you, summoning salt, one short eye and Karl Jobst I get to enjoy the amazing things you speed runners accomplish. Thank you.
The naming of these speedrunning tricks is almost as great as the trick itself
This was a great video. Just a very minor correction: the numbers you show are all one-byte long. For instance, FF is a one-byte value. When you look only at the right hex digit, you are actually just looking at the least significant four bits, i.e. the least significant nibble. A nibble is half a byte. Another way of looking at it is that to obtain just the least significant nibble, you can 'bitwise and' the number with #$0F, which will zero out the highest four bits.
haha. yup done goofed there. Only did 1 semester of comp-sci... 10 years ago
Hippo manippo is the best name for a trick maybe in all of speedrunning
You said before that you want to do a world record progression video for every fight in Mike Tyson's Punch Out except Mike Tyson. This is because Summing Salt did a video on that fight already. I still think that you should do it. The record for Mike Tyson has gone a long way since Summoning Salt's video, and he wasn't as good at making WR progression videos back then.
Ill get there (hopefully). TBH there is nothing to really talk about for Don 1, King Hippo and Great Tiger. I decided to atleast do this video for King Hippo though.
@@Papamanual I'd still love to just have them all for completion. If they all are super trivial, maybe just make 1 video out of those 3 fights?
As for this video, great content as always :)
@@Papamanual what will you do with glass joe?
@@smoceany9478one video for all the trivial fights would be nice. Would be short and easy to make as well
Thank you so much for explaining Hippo Manipo! Got my first rd 1 Tyson Wednesday. Time to start lowering it now! Current pb: 2:51
nice
did you get a better run?
@@smoceany9478pb now at 2:44. Rd 1 Tysons still aren’t a regular thing for me but I’ve had a good handful
So glad Pap's getting sponsors, also the editing on this one was sick
Hippo manippo is hilarious, Great name
I have a feeling all of the creators that make speedrunning content talk to each other and thought it would be hilarious to try incorporating the bus analogy in their videos.
As a software developer I find this amazing that something like this got cracked. Bravo to the Punchout Speedrunners!! Bravo!! Makes me wonder what some of the community do for a Living.
It was in trying to fact-check this video when i learned that a byte isn't strictly 8 bits, so you weren't wrong to call 0-F a byte. Truly I am humbled.
im no computer scientist, so i mightve got it wrong lol
I remember first time Summoning Salt was talking about this manip on twitch stream. His voice was shaking! 👍
This is another magnificent video Pap. The Hippo-Manippo, and how it works on a fundamental level, has been a bit hard to describe but you made it so clear and evident. Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge. I have learned so much from watching your videos and gameplay. Thank you.
Very impressive for a game that was released in 1987 for all the background data that’s going on. I cannot imagine what’s going on in the data in today’s games. Mind blowing
9:49 Love that visual pun there. :)
Hippo manippo is also one of the greatest coined names for a strat 😂
The level which people have broken this game is incredible
I love it when people just completely deconstruct the code like this. It's so amazing. Maybe I'm more in awe because I barely read assembly and don't code at all...
Kudos to the programmers of Punch Out. Wow
Your punchout content is honestly great
This video answered my rng questions.. awesome. Thank you
Incredible video. Really well explained. Can't wait for more content
when you talk about ram addresses as if they are scps
I would argue it is also a rythim game.
YO YOU'RE SO RIGHT
Please let me pass, sir :'(
Contra and MTsPunchout were games that lowered my anxiety before my first days of kindergarten
Great job, subscribed. The audio sounds distorted though. You should record less hot and use compression.
Aaaa, the "F" on the right isn't a byte, it's four bits, more properly termed a nybble, or just, four bits. The whole byte is FF. It's really a minor point, but I figured I should say something. It's still a great video!
Lol, thanks for that. I only did 1 semester of comp sci and that was like 10 years ago
@@Papamanual Yeah, my head is loaded with this stuff. Thanks for making the video BTW!
Beautiful Thumbnail photo.
I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully, it will attract more attention to this underrated channel.
Mike Tyson's punch-out is the true precursor to Dark Souls
I'm gonna disagree, and say its Ghosts and Goblins lol
Deadly Towers
I'd say MTPO is closer to Zelda
I think you just have to get him with his mouth open.
Did you really use the bus analogy to describe framerules? :D
Yeah, I heard it on the internet somewhere... :D
SNES 'Super Punchout' was cool too
I hit like for "frame rules".
YO, THAT'S SICK! 🙂 It's pretty cool to see how much can be discovered about this game even 40 years later...
MY GAWD, has it been that long...?! O.o
Congrats on the sponser. Not sure if you've had one before, but still, congrats :)
I love the Scrambler's intro
VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
you're on fire, Pap. I'm gonna get me one of those wallets.
8:21 VES
My other comments are stupid but seriously here: I did actually used to beat this game one handed while loading and smoking weed with my other hand, as a kid. 1998 I could have never comprehended there was anybody better than me at Punch Out.
Something I'm curious about, is why is this not useful in Don Flamenco 2 runs? Couldn't you hard reset, put in the passcode, and by starting the fight on a specific frame and doing well timed inputs, manipulate a bunch of random stars?
Thats a good question... I dont know the answer for sure, but as far as I know, the check for random stars happens very late (after atleast 1 bit rotation) so it is basically uncontrollable for humans
@@Papamanual That's unfortunate...
Don 2 still haunts me to this day 💀
Hey, more PMD2 music! always a fan of that!
you got yourself a sub
spreadsheets the game! even more fun then mtpo
lol... Hippo Manippo
Another fight where we much guarantee the Tas time
Love those wallets! 🤩
PLEASE NO I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE BUS
This was honestly confusing me, but that’s because im dumb. You sure know a lot about this game…
What's up with that name tho 💀
Also this video deserves more comments
2:37
you should try Mr. Dream rerelease
why? its the same game
@@Papamanual it doesn't have the intro cutscene so it is technically quicker
Tbh still useless i swear to miyamoto
JUST COZ TYSON LOST TO BUSTER DUGLAS DOESNT MEAN YOU DON'T RENOVATE
I honestly think it is not useful
KO!
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less based mid roll ads every 5 minutes cba
Just skipping over Don 1 I guess
Unfortunately yes. There is no progression for him.
No one knows when the first 0:14.97 time happened but the earliest description of such a strategy was in 1998 by Martin Charlebois.
SInce then, this is the confirmed TAS time and no further improvements have been found.
@@Papamanual I thought there would have been something before '98, but I guess the strategy was just too simple. I guess before the days of Charlebois the simple 'left right' combo was all they did.
Doing left right left right on king hippo deals more damage n I see you showed lefts only and anyone who plays the game knows right deals more damage
My mate is top 10
Source for people saying it's one of the greatest games of all time?
ew.com/article/2003/05/13/we-rank-100-greatest-videogames/
And my source for this link was the first paragraph on wikipedia.
But really, do these people actually know anything, are their opinions any more valid than mine...
Im a person and I say its one of the greatest video games of all time, im sure i could find someone with similar opinions given unlimited time and resources.
@@Papamanuali figured out it was 53. Good evidence.
Hey PAP, are you an ethnic Armenian living in Australia?
I am Australian, but my family does not come from Armenia.
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Imagine if all this intellectual energy was put into finding a cure for cancer instead!
Lets hope I raise some future scientists spirit enough to never give up.
But then we would not know the inner workings of MTPO, wtf dude.
"Mike Tyson's Puch Out is considered one of the greatest games of all time" -- said no one ever
Maybe for you but a lot people that grew up when the NES came out would consider it such. Got my NES for my 7th birthday in 87 and I’d consider it a top game of all time. Estimates have the number of video games on traditional platforms at around 93k. Can easily be argued Mike Tyson’s Punchout is in the top 250 and an even easier argument for top 500 both of which would classify it as a greatest game of all time.
I said it
@@Papamanual GIGACHAD
@@Zazzaro703 I did grow up during that time. I remember going to a friend's house with a NES who had just gotten it a week or so before. He showed it to me, literally finishing every fighter in one try and Mike in two. Thats part of the reason I never bothered with getting a NES. By that time, far better games were out on PC. Any of which would be in the top 100, and far better than Punch Out. People just like Punch Out, as it has nostalgia for them, it wasnt all that interesting of a game. Its literally pattern and sound recognition. Jeez, people can literally complete it blindfolded.