Steve Greene has basically confirmed the Colleen would lie about Josh about a month ago on JKnews when they were discussing the situation. He knew them both personally and there was no reason for him to lie about that before Josh’s interview. So I’m inclined to believe Josh.
Ethan she was making stuff up to make sure Josh looked like the bad guy. She always planned on leaving him. She just wanted the wedding for content. She never wanted Josh
plus shane has already been outed for this sort of manipulative gossiping behavior, trisha outed him for it like 2 years ago and she was better friends with him than colleen. if colleen can go behind his back and cheat, go behind her fans backs and shit talk, etc she can definitely shit talk to shane dawson the notorious pot stirrer. he even said it himself that they had that sort of relationship
I don't think anyone would date someone and go through getting them to fall in love with them all in hopes to make wedding content 💀 y'all are reaching now let's be sensible
She wanted to break up with Josh, but didn't want to look like the bad guy, so she got everyone to believe he was a bad guy, so they'd be happy for her when she finally got out, instead of mad at her for breaking it off with someone her audience also cared about.
the fact that josh couldn't even catch her in the act of cheating and had to tell her 15 minutes before he got there because he couldn't keep a secret from her tells me the type of person he is tbh so i believe him he's had such a minor part (in comparison to colleen herself and her best friend) in this and yes, he's not blameless but he's personally reached out and apologized to her victims when her and her bff have been dead silent plus, there is a youtuber who talked about this story in particular months prior saying the same thing (adam covered this on his channel) so yes, i do believe him
If she’s honestly being abused…wouldn’t it have already come out? And was she so close to Shane that she would confide in him? Just questions. Also, remember what Shane has said about her.
If Josh is lying the only explanation I can think of is that he’s not admitting it to himself because he clearly doesn’t want to get revenge on Colleen or else he would have gone harder and he doesn’t want to make himself look better because he’s admitting to things already and isn’t even online anyway. Colleen I could see getting cold feet already at the honeymoon and setting up narratives to prepare to discredit Josh as a preemptive measure if she ever wants out.
Watching a narcissist in the midst of their discard phase is so sad. You can literally see how done with him she is. Yawning. Mocking him. Anyone who has been with a narc knows these signs
I fully believe Josh this seems to have been her plan from the start, it seems that she was leaving breadcrumbs for whenever she did divorce him. Nobody would wanna work with him or believe him. I mean we see it all in the tiny chats. She was doing it to make sure her audience didn’t leave her to go to Josh or his new page, but he ended leaving YT completely.
i can't imagine having someone that loves you and just using them like that and then cheating and discarding them, like what the heck is wrong with this woman? i can't imagine she is a good mother... her poor child is gonna have some questionable morals
They did so much vlogging that they both know how to put on a show. Vlogging their intimate lives and trying to look like a perfect couple. Behind the scenes is so much different. It's hard to say what actually happened. Colleen's acting background really shows however, especially in her divorce announcement video. Josh couldn't help but show his true unhappiness at times.
I’ve suspected all along right from the divorce videos that Colleen was the disingenuous one. Josh seemed absolutely devastated by the break up whereas Colleen seemed upset, but her tears seemed forced. After it became public news that she and Eric were an item I instantly believed that she cheated. From the little bits of information that I saw, and the videos from Josh, it just seemed very clear that he was absolutely ruined by everything that happened whereas Colleen was living her best life. She is absolutely a liar and a selfish, self-absorbed person and all I can say is Karma is a bitch.
I was asked: "How is it that Shane Dawson has his filthy bucket in every well of drama?" My reply: "He's the OG of filthy buckets... He drilled the damn well."
If Josh didn't flip out when she cheated and treated him like trash in the lead up to their split then I highly doubt he ever acted badly towards Colleen. Abuse is a patterned behavior with cycles. They were together for years and she is obviously the one who did the (mental, some physical) abusing. I think that Colleen decided during the honeymoon that she made a mistake so she started setting Josh up for a big take down. She is a narcissistic monster. This is pretty much the plot of the classic noir movie Gaslight...thus gaslighting!
Another weird coincidence is how her and Ariana grande actually knew each other and had the same vocal coach or whatever she was it or something like that when they knew each other and here we are theyre the same type of serial homewreckers
I never thought I would be triggered by yawning but my ex made that happen 😅 because he was an incessant extreme yawner. I call it scream yawning because it would be as loud as someone yelling. It was a very extreme type of yawn that made you question if they were ok. And it happened constantly. At least 3-4 times an hour. It made me believe he had medical issues but he refused to go get checked out by a Dr bc he didn’t trust western medicine or something. But basically he could “sleep” (I don’t believe he actually entered a deep REM sleep tho) for 12 hours and still be super tired. Hence the constant yawning.
the way he seemed so upset/annoyed when she ‘corrected’ him and he just got the defeated ‘ok’ look on his face tells me this was something that happened often. this is just from my own personal experiences and it’s speculation ofc, but idk it feels like this further shows her emotional abuse.
I agree with Ethan here. This one red flagged me too. It makes no sense to randomly make that up to her friend on her honeymoon. What's the motive? If we're giving Josh the benefit of the doubt possibly because he hesitated and say he didn't want to say it at first to "protect her". Perhaps she did something bad and he fr did that in retaliation but he gave the answer of that just not happening at all to avoid answering it and explain that away. Best I can come up with.
Colleen has a huge track record of lying as Olivia said in the video. And in Adam’s videos, he often tells stories of how she lies to make herself look like the victim. That’s what she was doing here. She didn’t love josh, knew she wanted a divorce, but wanted it to make it seem as if she was the victim. But she couldn’t outright say that at the time bc she knew she could face legal trouble due to the agreement she had with josh, so instead she started spreading rumors, hoping it would eventually get out but that no one could trace it back to her.
Because Josh is taking accountability and actually talking about what he did and didn't do meanwhile Colleen is Silent not denying anything she's been accused of I'm inclined to believe Josh
There’s an MTV episode of True Life that followed them and it was so atrocious it was taken off the air- please dig up. Both are messed up. I totally believe he trashed the room
??? So you’re going to give literally ZERO evidence or details?? Really? Josh isn’t trash (referring to your previous comment). He’s a fucking victim. You seem like someone who just refuses to see men as victims. Did you watch the Swoop Doc?
Is the common denominator for Colleen's relationships, that she used them for something? Josh, JoJo etc: views. Shane: spreading her fake narrative. Her underaged fans: free work, adoration, hate mob, shit posters that will do her bidding. Erik: a foot into the "industry". Kory: slave that will do anything for her. Her kids: clickbait 😢 Where does it end? Idk
I like how he is entertaining the idea that shes telling the truth. I think critical thinking has left the chat in regard to allegations against her at this point. Not saying she isnt lying, its just refreshing to see some devils advocate
Could she have been lying to lay the grroundwork for people to turn on Josh, to make sure fellow large YT creators don't like him and think the worst of him from the beeginning? I do think it is valid to question him about it hough and to get Colleen's side of it as with all allegations of abuse.
I do have to say though I believe a lot of what Josh is saying, there were certain moments in his interview where I felt uncomfortable. Like where he was describing his interactions with Johnny (who is deplorable)... He seems very shifty and can't recall Johnny being at some family dinners (???). Like you remembered all these other details but you can't remember THAT? It's just super odd. I know that interaction isn't referenced in this video, but go watch Swoop's interview with him and just think about it. We only have one viewpoint right now. Colleen is by no means innocent and Josh definitely went through some shit, but he is not completely absolved of wrongdoing. He let these things happen and he participated.
Ethan is level headed, & its what makes this podcast watchable and last the test of time. The way ppl in comments state ideas as facts is rly frustrating.
what probably happened was a disagreement or discussion during the honeymoon and that really pissed colleen off so she decided to lie and tell shane that he did all that and that’s why we see some tension in the blog.
Would it be so strange to think it was a good way to isolate him from other big YT people who might want to do some collabs with him, hinder him from growing his platform? How would this conversation even start, on her honeymoon, just informing the old pal Shane (likely known gossip girl of the group)? In Josh's story the woman told him "I'm supposed to dislike you", so if that was the intended outcome, it was masterfully executed.
Narcissist tend to do stuff like this, because they want to make sure their victim is weak and has no power after they break up, or if they try to break up.
She sounds like a narcissist for sure. And it’s just something I recognize from my marriage so I’m no expert. Maybe he did throw stuff around the room but I guarantee it was because she baited him over and over until he snapped. Then text her friends to establish a “pattern” to serve her when she was done with him. She was baiting him too by yawning in the vlog. She looked so smug and in control, she knew that would bother him but he wouldn’t know if he could react to it. The equivalent of sticking a finger in someone’s face and saying “I’m not touching you”. she wasn’t being abused. No abused person would be so overtly rude to their abuser. She was pulling his strings and was completely satisfied with herself.
If i go to heaven after dying and see that Shane Dawson is already there and good friends with god, then im pretty sure hell is where i want to be. Shane is just trouble and you should probably stay away at all costs.
It’s annoying when Ethan does this every 2 seconds and talks for a long time. It messes up the flow of the video and then I don’t get the full impact of the original video. At least let it play like 10 seconds before pausing it to quickly comment
@@Lunatikhex i love the commentary? Hence why i love the h3 podcast. Just saying its annoying when they talk over the video they are commenting on. Then you don’t get to know what they are fully talking about without the full context. Thanks for your stupid comment tho, very helpful.
Ethan randomly trying to change the narrative that josh is lying based on a ‘feeling’ is soooo annoying. I think we can all agree that it’s important to be unbiased but dude, listen to Olivia. Colleen lies constantly. Something that is very evident in Adam’s stories as well. Like I feel as if Ethan tries so hard to have these super unique perspectives but it’s making him look like a douche.
Why would Josh bring it up then? If he did do something, why bring it up to make people put doubt in him? If he was upset about something she said (and she knew he was), we also know Colleen has a way of dramatizing things to make it way more worse.
Its funny how some of yall are saying shane is always in the youtube drama but theres one other person who likes to stick her nose in drama that times has nothing to do with her (trisha).. she lives for drama.. I feel shane tried to help colleen not knowing she was lying..
I get playing devils advocate, but the point is that Colleen makes up things for attention all the time. You could also ask why Johnny would make up all of these lies about Josh that weren’t founded in anything. People do it, and people like Colleen and Johnnyare willing to do anything to get attention.
maybe the whole marriage was for clout and colleen wanted to make sure she had an easy out if she needed to divorce. but the easy out was a new man instead.
I dont like Colleen and such but the look on his face, that annoyed face he gives I could see him flipping out at her "humiliating him" in front of the audience again so playing devils advocate and Watchung that vlog, the texts to Shane could be real. That being said, if she was already cheating and wanted an out to their marriage, that is a great lie to make up about someone. I had to leave you should have seen him being so abusive on our honeymoon. A narcissistic person absolutely would lie about something like that to set the stage for their exit.
I am starting to lose the plot. We are getting to the edge of the story being engaging. And I’d the point is proving how weird ballinger is, I think everyone knows.
I like Olivia but she’s gotta work on the length of project and cut down clips more precisely. They drag on a bit too much for me as a segment. Ian and AB were very good at Content Court and could improve Olivia’s style.
She was narcissistically abusing him right from the get go!! The yawning, the mocking VOWELS, the lying about him trashing the place. Josh is Not lying!
there are two possibilities, from what we know of shane and especially that time on the internet, ppl were gossipy drama queens so maybe she lied about drama in her marriage to seem interesting to shane. the other possibility (which I'm leaning towards because his entire demeanor screams performance, the forced 'pause for dramatic effect' moments are cringe) is that sometimes when one shitty person exists not everyone they meet is their victim, sometimes two shitty ppl find each other and exist in their shittyness until they break up and one just does a better job of the 'I was hard done by' narrative.
Everyone here knows a little about a situation and they suddenly know everything there is to know about abuse. The way Josh explains it, frames it and phrases it.... I'm inclined to believe that he did it. It doesn't mean he DID and even if he DID... It's one thing among however much she abused him. She is a narcissist (imo). She is looking for a reaction. It's what she wants. She wants to neg him into something? I think Josh is probably an ok guy, so he's not repulsive enough to hit her but after prodding and pushing and nudging him into exploding, he does. And trashes the room. Honestly, even if he hit her, I can't say it's great but being the recipient of abuse I've been in the position where I've been pushed to the point of exploding and then the abuser in questions acts like they did nothing, have done so much for me and how awful and abusive I am when I'm the victim and they've set me up as an alibi "just in case" Again, I could be very very wrong and either is plausible in my mind. But from knowing about abuse and reactive abuse, I'm inclined to believe he did it but I do not think any less of him for it. I've been there and know people who have been there. I understand. Hell, we see that sort of thing with the Depp v Heard case and it's why people like to insist that she was the abuser when it was Depp. Especially given the dire abuse she dealt drøm hun i totally understand why she may have hit him in a moment of anguish or rage. Same with Gabby Petito. God forbid she hit him once and he tried to act like she was the aggressor in the situation. Just my two cents.
I feel like I heard through the grapevine that he was saving himself for after marriage? maybe she thought he was a wretched lay and being the pervert she is was already thinking of ways out, lol.
You tube is getting into peoples ex relationships now . Wow or how boring.not our business The ex husband interview was nauseating .his voice and the interview was sickening . Enough with it all Tneres bo more content to be had anymore.its dull.
I don't know anything personal bout anyone involved.. but this Josh guy's body language is telling on him. He speaks like he's trading lines in a basic acting class.
All I gotta say is Jenna and Julien took Josh's side and that's all I need to know about Colleen's character
Can I ask where you got this info? 🥲 just want to know 😊
JENNA I miss her so damn much love to hear it
@@cruzggraceI also want to know, I stan it, miss hearing about Jenna and Julien
@@cruzggraceJulien and Josh vlogged together post Josh and Colleen’s divorce, plus Josh confirmed they took his side on Twitter
@@abigail6394ohhh thanks!!
Steve Greene has basically confirmed the Colleen would lie about Josh about a month ago on JKnews when they were discussing the situation. He knew them both personally and there was no reason for him to lie about that before Josh’s interview. So I’m inclined to believe Josh.
Ethan she was making stuff up to make sure Josh looked like the bad guy. She always planned on leaving him. She just wanted the wedding for content. She never wanted Josh
100%
plus shane has already been outed for this sort of manipulative gossiping behavior, trisha outed him for it like 2 years ago and she was better friends with him than colleen. if colleen can go behind his back and cheat, go behind her fans backs and shit talk, etc she can definitely shit talk to shane dawson the notorious pot stirrer. he even said it himself that they had that sort of relationship
Sad but true.
I don't think anyone would date someone and go through getting them to fall in love with them all in hopes to make wedding content 💀 y'all are reaching now let's be sensible
no normal person would. a narcissist would.
Colleen has been proven a liar and we have all the reason to believe Josh. She's not denying it right now, and all trails lead to her.
Colleen looked bored, yawning, and making fun of him. She was not into it!
and that was their honeymoon😅like omg i actually feel so bad for josh
right the whole marriage was just a reality show storyline it seems lmfao
She wanted to break up with Josh, but didn't want to look like the bad guy, so she got everyone to believe he was a bad guy, so they'd be happy for her when she finally got out, instead of mad at her for breaking it off with someone her audience also cared about.
And that’s pathetic
GOD this hits close to home
the fact that josh couldn't even catch her in the act of cheating and had to tell her 15 minutes before he got there because he couldn't keep a secret from her tells me the type of person he is tbh so i believe him
he's had such a minor part (in comparison to colleen herself and her best friend) in this and yes, he's not blameless but he's personally reached out and apologized to her victims when her and her bff have been dead silent
plus, there is a youtuber who talked about this story in particular months prior saying the same thing (adam covered this on his channel) so yes, i do believe him
Shane Dawson is the root of all RUclips drama
He's so fucking annoying. He's always the first person to reach out to someone who's in shit and get involved for 0 reason.
damn don’t give him too much credit lmao
You are giving him too much credit.
He is the root of all the dry elbow skin flakes and eyebrow dandruff though.
Root of a lot of evil!
Work with a new girl that also watches a lot of RUclips. I asked her who her favorite creators were. Guess who she fuckin said 🤦♀️
If she’s honestly being abused…wouldn’t it have already come out? And was she so close to Shane that she would confide in him? Just questions. Also, remember what Shane has said about her.
if josh did do it, then why would HE bring it up himself? if he did it, wouldn’t he want to make that disappear????
Adams been saying forever that colleen would lie about being abused by josh, and its looking like a lot of those lies were actually about herself
It's a classic abuser move. See: Depp v Heard
@@carnuatusthat’s a bad comparison lol
@@carnuatushope you're referring to Depp as the liar & abuser in that situation
If Josh is lying the only explanation I can think of is that he’s not admitting it to himself because he clearly doesn’t want to get revenge on Colleen or else he would have gone harder and he doesn’t want to make himself look better because he’s admitting to things already and isn’t even online anyway.
Colleen I could see getting cold feet already at the honeymoon and setting up narratives to prepare to discredit Josh as a preemptive measure if she ever wants out.
Watching a narcissist in the midst of their discard phase is so sad. You can literally see how done with him she is. Yawning. Mocking him. Anyone who has been with a narc knows these signs
Being in discard phase ON THE HONEYMOON??
His expression is that of a defeated man. So sad. She comes across as so insensitive.
This shows her true character, believe Josh. This is a pattern of hers.
I fully believe Josh this seems to have been her plan from the start, it seems that she was leaving breadcrumbs for whenever she did divorce him. Nobody would wanna work with him or believe him. I mean we see it all in the tiny chats. She was doing it to make sure her audience didn’t leave her to go to Josh or his new page, but he ended leaving YT completely.
i can't imagine having someone that loves you and just using them like that and then cheating and discarding them, like what the heck is wrong with this woman? i can't imagine she is a good mother... her poor child is gonna have some questionable morals
Peak narcissism.
To be fair, thankfully many kids find their way out of it or manage to find their own morality. But it'll be hard.
They did so much vlogging that they both know how to put on a show. Vlogging their intimate lives and trying to look like a perfect couple. Behind the scenes is so much different. It's hard to say what actually happened. Colleen's acting background really shows however, especially in her divorce announcement video. Josh couldn't help but show his true unhappiness at times.
Dude just wants to not believe that Colleen would be so foul - I believe Josh cuz she made up crap about Adam - she’s psychotic
I’ve suspected all along right from the divorce videos that Colleen was the disingenuous one. Josh seemed absolutely devastated by the break up whereas Colleen seemed upset, but her tears seemed forced. After it became public news that she and Eric were an item I instantly believed that she cheated. From the little bits of information that I saw, and the videos from Josh, it just seemed very clear that he was absolutely ruined by everything that happened whereas Colleen was living her best life. She is absolutely a liar and a selfish, self-absorbed person and all I can say is Karma is a bitch.
I was asked: "How is it that Shane Dawson has his filthy bucket in every well of drama?"
My reply: "He's the OG of filthy buckets... He drilled the damn well."
If Josh didn't flip out when she cheated and treated him like trash in the lead up to their split then I highly doubt he ever acted badly towards Colleen. Abuse is a patterned behavior with cycles. They were together for years and she is obviously the one who did the (mental, some physical) abusing.
I think that Colleen decided during the honeymoon that she made a mistake so she started setting Josh up for a big take down. She is a narcissistic monster. This is pretty much the plot of the classic noir movie Gaslight...thus gaslighting!
Another weird coincidence is how her and Ariana grande actually knew each other and had the same vocal coach or whatever she was it or something like that when they knew each other and here we are theyre the same type of serial homewreckers
They both give off the vibes of that CERTAIN type of theater girl. Iykyk.
I never thought I would be triggered by yawning but my ex made that happen 😅 because he was an incessant extreme yawner. I call it scream yawning because it would be as loud as someone yelling. It was a very extreme type of yawn that made you question if they were ok. And it happened constantly. At least 3-4 times an hour. It made me believe he had medical issues but he refused to go get checked out by a Dr bc he didn’t trust western medicine or something. But basically he could “sleep” (I don’t believe he actually entered a deep REM sleep tho) for 12 hours and still be super tired. Hence the constant yawning.
Oh stop! That man did nothing to her.
I guessed james charles damn
the way he seemed so upset/annoyed when she ‘corrected’ him and he just got the defeated ‘ok’ look on his face tells me this was something that happened often. this is just from my own personal experiences and it’s speculation ofc, but idk it feels like this further shows her emotional abuse.
I agree with Ethan here. This one red flagged me too. It makes no sense to randomly make that up to her friend on her honeymoon. What's the motive?
If we're giving Josh the benefit of the doubt possibly because he hesitated and say he didn't want to say it at first to "protect her". Perhaps she did something bad and he fr did that in retaliation but he gave the answer of that just not happening at all to avoid answering it and explain that away.
Best I can come up with.
Colleen has a huge track record of lying as Olivia said in the video. And in Adam’s videos, he often tells stories of how she lies to make herself look like the victim. That’s what she was doing here. She didn’t love josh, knew she wanted a divorce, but wanted it to make it seem as if she was the victim. But she couldn’t outright say that at the time bc she knew she could face legal trouble due to the agreement she had with josh, so instead she started spreading rumors, hoping it would eventually get out but that no one could trace it back to her.
Because Josh is taking accountability and actually talking about what he did and didn't do meanwhile Colleen is Silent not denying anything she's been accused of I'm inclined to believe Josh
There’s an MTV episode of True Life that followed them and it was so atrocious it was taken off the air- please dig up. Both are messed up. I totally believe he trashed the room
Oh, Im going to have to check that out.
Yup in 2013 called true life: I’m famous online
+ yes
??? So you’re going to give literally ZERO evidence or details?? Really?
Josh isn’t trash (referring to your previous comment). He’s a fucking victim. You seem like someone who just refuses to see men as victims. Did you watch the Swoop Doc?
Is the common denominator for Colleen's relationships, that she used them for something? Josh, JoJo etc: views. Shane: spreading her fake narrative. Her underaged fans: free work, adoration, hate mob, shit posters that will do her bidding. Erik: a foot into the "industry". Kory: slave that will do anything for her.
Her kids: clickbait 😢
Where does it end? Idk
I like how he is entertaining the idea that shes telling the truth. I think critical thinking has left the chat in regard to allegations against her at this point. Not saying she isnt lying, its just refreshing to see some devils advocate
All I’m getting is shitty people will continue to get exposed for being shitty. And that everything comes back around, even if it’s years later.
Ugh! The eating! Mouth noises
it’s genuinely so infuriating it just makes it seem like he’s so dismissive talking about literal abuse while smacking on food
where can we watch this full interview ? why do we keep getting clips of it
To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if she planned it so that Josh would get hated when they broke up.
Could she have been lying to lay the grroundwork for people to turn on Josh, to make sure fellow large YT creators don't like him and think the worst of him from the beeginning? I do think it is valid to question him about it hough and to get Colleen's side of it as with all allegations of abuse.
Really bottom of the barrel. Ethan is turning into keemstar with stupid drama
Colleen also used that as leverage to get Shane to stop Josh from making his tell-all video
I do have to say though I believe a lot of what Josh is saying, there were certain moments in his interview where I felt uncomfortable. Like where he was describing his interactions with Johnny (who is deplorable)... He seems very shifty and can't recall Johnny being at some family dinners (???). Like you remembered all these other details but you can't remember THAT? It's just super odd. I know that interaction isn't referenced in this video, but go watch Swoop's interview with him and just think about it.
We only have one viewpoint right now. Colleen is by no means innocent and Josh definitely went through some shit, but he is not completely absolved of wrongdoing. He let these things happen and he participated.
I see Ethan's skepticism at points, so that's why I'm commenting on this. This is just a thought, I could be wrong.
@@TeannaTasminei think we've seen From Depp v Heard that abuse can even make the victim "messy." Also, like attracts like and all that.
@@carnuatus For sure!!
Ethan is level headed, & its what makes this podcast watchable and last the test of time. The way ppl in comments state ideas as facts is rly frustrating.
what probably happened was a disagreement or discussion during the honeymoon and that really pissed colleen off so she decided to lie and tell shane that he did all that and that’s why we see some tension in the blog.
Idk why Ethen finds it so hard to believe that she would blatantly lie about that. She wrote a ukulele song about child grooming accusations….
Would it be so strange to think it was a good way to isolate him from other big YT people who might want to do some collabs with him, hinder him from growing his platform? How would this conversation even start, on her honeymoon, just informing the old pal Shane (likely known gossip girl of the group)? In Josh's story the woman told him "I'm supposed to dislike you", so if that was the intended outcome, it was masterfully executed.
Whys ethan sound like hes dying
Still not trusting josh ?
Narcissist tend to do stuff like this, because they want to make sure their victim is weak and has no power after they break up, or if they try to break up.
She sounds like a narcissist for sure. And it’s just something I recognize from my marriage so I’m no expert. Maybe he did throw stuff around the room but I guarantee it was because she baited him over and over until he snapped. Then text her friends to establish a “pattern” to serve her when she was done with him. She was baiting him too by yawning in the vlog. She looked so smug and in control, she knew that would bother him but he wouldn’t know if he could react to it. The equivalent of sticking a finger in someone’s face and saying “I’m not touching you”. she wasn’t being abused. No abused person would be so overtly rude to their abuser. She was pulling his strings and was completely satisfied with herself.
So true!!! Victims are afraid of their abusers… not smug and confident.
She could have sent that text to create a record she could utilise in the future. Yes, I can see Colleen thinking like that
I never trusted or had good feelings about Shane Dawson, especially his early days with others who do questionable things...
If i go to heaven after dying and see that Shane Dawson is already there and good friends with god, then im pretty sure hell is where i want to be. Shane is just trouble and you should probably stay away at all costs.
I’m curious about the current husband and where he stands in all of this
Alex Day jumpscare in that montage, lol.
Love Olivia. shes a hun. come UK dimension of this would be Coleen Nolan and Shayne Ward
I agree, I get bad vibes off Josh.. I think both him and Colleen are toxic.
YOu guys really need to stop pausing the videos that you keep showing and talking over the person in the video!! its soooo annoying
You mean a commentary channel giving commentary! Shocking
It’s annoying when Ethan does this every 2 seconds and talks for a long time. It messes up the flow of the video and then I don’t get the full impact of the original video. At least let it play like 10 seconds before pausing it to quickly comment
@stancexpunks just say you're abliest
@@Lunatikhex i love the commentary? Hence why i love the h3 podcast. Just saying its annoying when they talk over the video they are commenting on. Then you don’t get to know what they are fully talking about without the full context. Thanks for your stupid comment tho, very helpful.
@@stancexpunks 100% !!
Ethan randomly trying to change the narrative that josh is lying based on a ‘feeling’ is soooo annoying. I think we can all agree that it’s important to be unbiased but dude, listen to Olivia. Colleen lies constantly. Something that is very evident in Adam’s stories as well. Like I feel as if Ethan tries so hard to have these super unique perspectives but it’s making him look like a douche.
She was laying the groundwork to make josh look bad because she cheated with erik
There’s a newer girl at work. We both mentioned how we watch a lot of RUclips. I asked her who her favorite creators were. She said Shane Dawson.
Why would Josh bring it up then? If he did do something, why bring it up to make people put doubt in him? If he was upset about something she said (and she knew he was), we also know Colleen has a way of dramatizing things to make it way more worse.
Its funny how some of yall are saying shane is always in the youtube drama but theres one other person who likes to stick her nose in drama that times has nothing to do with her (trisha).. she lives for drama.. I feel shane tried to help colleen not knowing she was lying..
I agree 100%
True but too bad in this situation Trish is a victim of Colleens insanity.
Shane is a child predator
I get playing devils advocate, but the point is that Colleen makes up things for attention all the time. You could also ask why Johnny would make up all of these lies about Josh that weren’t founded in anything. People do it, and people like Colleen and Johnnyare willing to do anything to get attention.
maybe the whole marriage was for clout and colleen wanted to make sure she had an easy out if she needed to divorce. but the easy out was a new man instead.
pewdiepie is top tier
Of fucking course Shane Dawson is involved...
I dont like Colleen and such but the look on his face, that annoyed face he gives I could see him flipping out at her "humiliating him" in front of the audience again so playing devils advocate and Watchung that vlog, the texts to Shane could be real. That being said, if she was already cheating and wanted an out to their marriage, that is a great lie to make up about someone. I had to leave you should have seen him being so abusive on our honeymoon. A narcissistic person absolutely would lie about something like that to set the stage for their exit.
If she lied about the honeymoon thing that’s some amber heard style shit
The yawn at 6:10
4:55 we don’t know the context of the conversation with Shane though, she’s known to slag Josh off so it might not be ‘out of nowhere’
I am starting to lose the plot. We are getting to the edge of the story being engaging. And I’d the point is proving how weird ballinger is, I think everyone knows.
I don’t trust Josh at all either.
I like Olivia but she’s gotta work on the length of project and cut down clips more precisely. They drag on a bit too much for me as a segment. Ian and AB were very good at Content Court and could improve Olivia’s style.
I thought that was weird as well
But im thinking she did that for a reason attempting to make him look bad in the RUclipsr community
all this says is that josh hates colleen more than his husband
ok am I losing it or did Shane publicly apologize to Josh on Twitter for this????
She was narcissistically abusing him right from the get go!! The yawning, the mocking VOWELS, the lying about him trashing the place. Josh is Not lying!
Swoop looks like a brat doll ngl. Not an insult just a unique look
you mean bratz ?
@@xxxxxxxxx1652 yup
All k have to say is josh is for sure involved in some weird way with this shit not sure exactly how but his eyes tell me everything
i knew it was shane lmao the second they said something
there are two possibilities, from what we know of shane and especially that time on the internet, ppl were gossipy drama queens so maybe she lied about drama in her marriage to seem interesting to shane. the other possibility (which I'm leaning towards because his entire demeanor screams performance, the forced 'pause for dramatic effect' moments are cringe) is that sometimes when one shitty person exists not everyone they meet is their victim, sometimes two shitty ppl find each other and exist in their shittyness until they break up and one just does a better job of the 'I was hard done by' narrative.
Everyone here knows a little about a situation and they suddenly know everything there is to know about abuse. The way Josh explains it, frames it and phrases it.... I'm inclined to believe that he did it. It doesn't mean he DID and even if he DID... It's one thing among however much she abused him.
She is a narcissist (imo). She is looking for a reaction. It's what she wants. She wants to neg him into something? I think Josh is probably an ok guy, so he's not repulsive enough to hit her but after prodding and pushing and nudging him into exploding, he does. And trashes the room. Honestly, even if he hit her, I can't say it's great but being the recipient of abuse I've been in the position where I've been pushed to the point of exploding and then the abuser in questions acts like they did nothing, have done so much for me and how awful and abusive I am when I'm the victim and they've set me up as an alibi "just in case"
Again, I could be very very wrong and either is plausible in my mind. But from knowing about abuse and reactive abuse, I'm inclined to believe he did it but I do not think any less of him for it. I've been there and know people who have been there. I understand.
Hell, we see that sort of thing with the Depp v Heard case and it's why people like to insist that she was the abuser when it was Depp. Especially given the dire abuse she dealt drøm hun i totally understand why she may have hit him in a moment of anguish or rage.
Same with Gabby Petito. God forbid she hit him once and he tried to act like she was the aggressor in the situation.
Just my two cents.
Thanks Colleen
I feel like I heard through the grapevine that he was saving himself for after marriage? maybe she thought he was a wretched lay and being the pervert she is was already thinking of ways out, lol.
Olivia is soo fucking beautiful❤❤
Olivia is to much tbh its getting old!!
You tube is getting into peoples ex relationships now . Wow or how boring.not our business
The ex husband interview was nauseating .his voice and the interview was sickening .
Enough with it all
Tneres bo more content to be had anymore.its dull.
Said Colleen B.
First
Given how sanctimonious Olivia is, how long is it before she's exposed for elder abuse or something else crazy?
huh.. ?
Are you confessing to something?
No one cares about this Colleen situation. And it’s also annoying everyone calling her co-leen. It’s call-een
I care and so do the victims. Speak for yoursepf shah-leen
@@neeren777 The sass in this comment is amazing. Best response lmao
I don't know anything personal bout anyone involved.. but this Josh guy's body language is telling on him. He speaks like he's trading lines in a basic acting class.
Is that you, Colon?
Dan in his Trixie Mattel x Brittany Broski phase is the only good thing to come of this situation 💕