跟伯伯請教如何讓我的華語進步 👨🎓 MY UNCLE HELPS ME LEARN MANDARIN! 他已經學了四十幾年了 | Learning for Over 40 Years!
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I sit down with my Uncle yet again, this time we're talking all about our Mandarin learning experience. For him, it's been something he's been learning nearly all his life. For me, it's something that I'm trying to improve. He (and others) have told me that it will greatly improve my life here in Taiwan, which of course is true. Hope you enjoy this interview, it's always so insightful talking with my Uncle.
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Wes的伯父Dr.Gordon Davies是一位有學問的博士，待人誠懇又溫文儒雅，是國際知名多倫多大學『語言與翻譯，藝術與科學』的項目負責人(相當於這類學科領域研究所的所長)，監督20種語言的教學和120餘門人文課程。值得欽佩的是Gordon自己仍虛懷若谷不斷學習中，包括中文及法文等。相信能很快再來台灣與當年的學生碰面，並陪同遊覽台灣。
只要走出家門，勇於開口，不恥下問，相信您的中文ㄧ定進步神速！
So true
好喜歡Wes 的戈登伯伯
，他就是一位學識非常豐富的老師！❤👍Wes 就像戈登伯伯說的你現在在台灣只要打開門🚪走出去外面都是你的教室，只要你開口每一位台灣人都願意教你中文甚至是台語！至於看跟寫的部份我的建議是從注音符號開始學，基礎學好就會拼音這樣就能看懂很多字而且學好注音也能提升說話的口音，像酷.皓捷他們也都是學注音！
我知道Wes 非常喜歡台灣的民俗跟文化等你會中文後一定會有更不同的體驗和更豐富的生活加油！你一定沒問題的💪👍❤❤
哇，一個外國人母語不是中文 但卻很有心得，很棒！ 期待叔叔來
There is a tip called "有邊讀邊，沒邊讀中間"(read side radical if any, otherwise read middle one) we used in school when we are TRYING TO READ BY OURSELF (not recommend it for communication with people). Although it will only works on some of the words that is made of that way （形聲字）😂 it gets you some success like 10%. Some examples like 歌, 清, 油, 蜘蛛, 繪畫, 想像...
疫情過後穩定下來，請邀情叔叔來台灣，歡迎他回來福爾摩沙，旅遊景點，吃美食，這裡的人有他的學生，大家都歡迎，期盼他回家，第二個家喔！歡迎歡迎光臨
First! Looking forward to invite you to my Chinese-only livestreams coming up in 2021 衛斯理!
你的中文也說的啵棒！
很棒的意思啦
我們也很期待🤗❤
聽你的伯父分析中文與漢字就知道他是真的在"研究"而不只是學習而已!
Gordon 很厲害，不愧是語言方面的專家。
日語 台語 粵語 客家話 從小四聲道 去學校才學講國語 現在想想母語環境真的是王道
This was another great interview Wes. Your lucky to have family that understands Taiwan 🇹🇼 culture. Uncle Gordon is so inspiring to me. I’m dedicating this year to Chinese.
One can tell your uncle is not just a casual learner of Chinese but more of a language scholar. His explanations about the construct and origin of certain characters are fascinating to me even as a native Mandarin speaker. As he pointed out, we learned these characters naturally but never studied the linguistic part of it. My own experience of learning a foreign language is that it gets easier once you overcome the first one. I remember taking Spanish class and finding it not too difficult (with so many cognate words!) but my American classmates who were taking it as their first foreign language were really struggling. I am now tackling Italian and Portuguese (it gets easier because they are all Romance languages).
BTW, there are a lot adopted words/phrases in Chinese in addition to mango & Martini. For example, 摩托(車) from motor, 巴士 from bus, 摩登 from modern, 夾克 from jacket, 駭客 from hacker, etc. We are seeing more of them like the last one as more terms are adopted from Western technology.
Finally, studies repeatedly show that multilingual people are a lot less likely to develop dementia/Alzheimer’s. I am doing exactly what your uncle is doing: to keep my brain active. But more importantly, I just love learning different languages. In your old age, you will fully appreciate your experience in Taiwan. Good luck.
p.s. BTW, this fellow Canadian's Mandarin would be an inspiration. His Mandarin puts even me to shame.
ruclips.net/video/3KTLr5PfA2c/видео.html
叔叔真的不簡單，好厲害!
推薦，108課綱的小學國文課本學認字。像高登爺爺般，學會基本的字，再將它們的含義或發音結合在一起形成畫面與故事，是個很好的方式。
如，先懂"足"foot
足球 football
跑=足+包=the action about foot(足), then use 包 pronounce to guess similar sound and what action about foot.跑=run
如，上=up, 下=down, 卡=>卡住=get stuck
卡，it combined 上&下, they use the same horizontal line, that makes them can't get up and can't get down, they get stuck.
另一個關於2個字形成一詞如何記憶這點，我會建議先了解單一個字的含義，再將兩個含義組合成一個詞時所代表的東西，會更理解其文化。
如，團聚 reunite
團=group, round, circular, unite
聚=get together, assemble
we can image that situation likes there's a family(group團) getting together（聚） and sitting circularity for dinner in Chinese's new year. it will become more easily to remember.
英文不好，請見諒。我盡力了。🙏
Uncle Gordon was a great teacher. I was in his 1976 class and know the fact firsthand. I followed your last post last week in the first edition of uncle Gordon’s wonderful journey to Taiwan in 1976. The second part truly shows not only a great English himself but also a true holistic, systemic learner of Chinese language. Uncle Gordon did not speak much Chinese in classes. I figure that was actually a blessing if I look back in the moments we, students at the start of our second year of English-learning, were scratching our heads off trying to make sense of the ideas uncle Gordon was conveying. Now, he is approaching 69 maybe and still taking on Chinese language as a hobby. Uncle Gordon not only has the sharpest photographic memories of all the things in details in 1970’s but also one of the smartest people we luckily had the chance to share those wonderful a year and a half at Viator High in 1976.
Thanks again for this wonderful post. Really?! It’s been 44 years??!! Gosh, time slips by so fast. If not for uncle Gordon’s native English phonic, I would probably be stuck forever by those KK phonetic symbols. We had no clue about the phonetic rules and pronunciation. Now that I also know the little secret that the English phonics he taught us was a great gift passed on to us by Sister Elizabeth of our sister Catholic girl school, 曉明女中. We were all shammed by those KK phonetic symbols in our first year of junior high. Uncle Gordon, who was actually only 9 years older than all of us, showed us the bolts and nuts of English phonics. That was truly a watershed moment to figure out all rules of phonics in English language. All students are really grateful to have a great English teacher at very young ages to pave the way for many years going forward. He was also an avid swimmer, true gentleman, and fearless globetrotter. I guess the fearless part honestly stays in the Davies family.
I must say I was beyond glad to find your Taiwan's moonshine post, 高粱酒, so that we could reconvene with uncle Gordon after 44 long years. Without your help, I could not possibly reach out and get in touch again. Your follow-up interviews with uncle Gordon are equally exciting and mesmerizing on many levels. Maybe just like your uncle G’s best quote last time, we’d also just like to close the loop after all these decades slipping by. Thanks to you, Wes.
Just one more thing, we are waiting to meet again with our enlightening English teacher, Uncle Gordon, in Taichung after the pandemic mess. All students of 1976 can’t wait to meet him again hopefully some time this year. Yeah, that would be the resolution and my little wish for 2021!
Stay safe and a very happy new year to you, too.
ST Lin (76er)
伯父的理解很正確的！漢字的結構，的確是以形狀創字的，當時創漢字的人，就是看到實體，然後按照樣子畫下來，慢慢的為了要能書寫，就將原本畫出來的原型，調整成比較容易寫的筆劃，就是現在的漢字了！例如：雞，創字的時候就真的是有爪子，有尾巴（像紡織品）、一隻像鳥的動物。所以，用形狀、或把一個字拆開來看，將個別字的意思的意思找出來，就更可以把組合之後的意思，猜出來。漢字大部份是這樣的。沒錯！
伯伯真的很有氣質
經過好幾十年了，叔叔說的中文還是很標準厲害💕💕💕👍👍👍
高登叔叔 真的很厲害, 很有素養, 思考模式也很有邏輯, 期盼早日能見到他的再臨台灣, 新年快樂!
敬邀衛斯理一月底來這一屆衛道同學的聚會，為邀請老師來台灣預作規劃。
下次可以跟叔叔考慮一起挑戰，整部影片用中文聊天🎈😊👍👍👍👍
read about the books "說文解字" (analyse the words&characters)
"六書":象形、指事、會意、形聲、轉注、假借，其中象形、指事是「造字法」，會意、形聲是「組字法」，轉注、假借是「用字法」。漢字中，形聲字佔最多。(the structure of how the word is created. It will also help to know/memory the words even when those words are totally new to you. )
叔叔對中文字的了解非常熟悉，看樣衛斯理的中文可以跟叔叔多請教請教了
勇敢的說出口別人會教你正確的
If you close your eyes and listen, Wes sounds exactly like Nick Swardson 😂
Lol I’ve heard that before actually 🤣
好有趣的一部影片.對於中文為母語.且每天都在使用的我.能透過高登伯不同的角度.剖析他認識的中文.真的感到有趣
叔叔很專業
When I was a elementary kid, whenever there’s a new word and no one knew how to read, my teacher would give us a guess. 有邊讀邊，沒邊念中間 is the key!
阿伯太厲害了，還研究形聲字，中文的造字方法!
叔叔厲害👍
希望新的一年裡能夠看到疫情得到控制，這樣Wes的Gordon叔叔才能自由的來台灣，Gordon叔叔用自己的風格，學習中文很有邏輯、創造力👍，台灣RUclips裡的黑素斯、元元也是很棒的學習對象💖。
GOLDEN 有深度的叔叔
其實中文的最初為象形文字以形體演變出來到現在的中文，沒有固定的方法可練習，但通常用部首來練習可能會簡單一點，如果會查中文字典會更好！可試試看！
期待叔叔來台灣的那一天
Your uncle’s is a good teacher.
叔叔的中文真厲害！因為他頭腦很靈光！
萬事起頭難，但只要下定決心，一定可以達成目標；
其實，多與人溝通，從日常生活中學習，學會活用；
相信衛斯理一定可以學好華語，我對你很有信心哦；
高登叔叔的華語知識比我們還厲害，真的令人汗顏！👍😄👏
在哪裡?!
Wes中文已很棒，但不得不說叔叔很有溫文儒雅氣質。
小時候是靠著讀一種報紙“國語日報”學來的，國語日報的每個字，旁邊都有注音符號，剛開始看不懂字都是先讀中文字旁邊的注音符號，家裡有訂“國語日報”，每天看每天讀，看久了，字就記住了，所以建議你先學會注音符號，再去看國語日報，或是有注音符號的書
看外國人拆字分析蠻有趣的，謝謝叔叔分享
中文字就是象形、指事、會意、形聲、假借、轉注
現在越來越多人認為，雖然在學習的初級階段，漢字由於比拉丁字母複雜，學習難度會較大，但當深入學習之後，漢字的優勢就會顯現出來。這是因為，漢字不是拼音文字，它阻止了世界各地的詞彙直接進入漢語，而是多靠意譯才能進入漢語，漢語中各個領域的絕大多數詞彙都是用三千個常用字構成的，某些科技上的專用字也是形聲字構造，易學易記，便於學習各種知識。而英語中的詞彙來源極為複雜，直接從世界各地引入詞語，在構詞方面又依賴希臘-拉丁構詞法而不是本族語言構詞，使得英語在學習中後期難度陡增，並且，英語還是拼讀不規則的語言。
記得美國的莫彩曦有分享過她怎麼學會中文的,她中文講的很好,可以參考看看
There is a set of methods for the formation of Chinese characters in 六書, which is 象形， 指事， 會意， 形聲， 轉注，假借.
In Han Dynasty, some scholars proposed it and this is wikipedia link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_classification
這支Video裡的談話深奧&正統到涉及*語言學*与*文學*十分學術性。Wes是個正經&嚴謹的人，太認真對待學"中文會話"這回事反而學的慢。四周全是說華語的人你大可輕鬆自在的學習生活會話，再慢慢進行較深入的中文。你的Uncle是個有學問的*學者*也愛慕中國文化，我們華人用的*溫文儒雅*形容他十分適合。
叔叔對中文字構造的了解實在讓我意外。這是造字的秦代六書 象形 指事 會意 行聲 轉注 假借。要分別了解每個字的造字法則才能真的貫穿了解。查字典是最快的
哇....象形、指事、會意、形聲、轉注、假借.....真的很重要，所以若學習「簡體」中文就無法了解其內涵！
叔叔對中文的理解很厲害!我們遇到看不懂的字也是有邊唸邊，沒邊唸中間
看完覺得很有感，中文的聲調真的很重要😂 我的法文老師之前給我們解釋栗子的時候，說：東西長在樹上，可以放在蛋糕當甜點。我們猜了李子、梨子、荔枝，直到最後才知道是指栗子，因為老師講出來的音調都一樣😂😂😂
又有伯伯的影片了
一定不能錯過
我覺得莫彩曦夫妻是學中文最快又標準的，她們有一部學習中文方式的影片，你可以去看看
你說的番茄 威士忌等等的中文 都是由英文直接翻譯過來的 所以音跟英文接近
台灣有不少台語 中文都有這種外來語
我以前小學的時候每個學生手上都會有一本國語字典，封面頁後前兩頁說部首，以前老師會教怎麼用部首查單字，真的查不到時才用封底頁後的前幾頁的注音來查。所以基本上就是看到字開始「拆」或「猜」部首後，再去查該部首頁，然後再用筆劃數去查到該字所在頁面。因此，可以同時學到拆字及部首外，因為後續要用筆劃查，所以在計算筆劃時順便也學到怎麼寫。
好期待叔叔來台灣 誠摯邀請您
Gorden記漢字的方法讓我想到
國中的時候怎麼都記不住dangerous
直到有個老師教我們
記住單腳拉屎很危險
就再也沒忘過了XD
A toast of 威士忌 to your uncle. 活到老，學到老令人佩服！
14:41
關於文字統一性，是在秦始皇時代。
車同軌，書同文，行同倫
統一車子 軌道寬度
統一文字 寫字方式
統一 食衣住行、風俗習慣和信仰等。
方便治理國家。
秦始皇統治時代把週邊口音不同的燕語統一為河洛語,也就是今天的閩南語和台語
0:34 爬梳
解釋：
爬搔梳櫛，整理紛亂的事物。唐．韓愈〈送鄭尚書序〉：「蜂屯蟻雜，不可爬梳。」也作「爬櫛」。
中文使用，相當厲害。
期待你伯父來台灣，說話語氣真的很紳士、散發氣質、會讓人想看他本人。
I had two hours chat with a good friend each night to learn English when I first arrived US at age of 13. Not afraid to speak out and a friend to correct you is a best to go.
Gordon 真的很厲害！
我在加拿大教中文，很多學生讓我很驚艷！uncle說的沒錯，在這裡，幾乎算是dead language
有決心要好好學，一定會慢慢地，一步一步學好
希望你能學得非常開心！
戴老師觀察力和思考好機極....妙語如珠真是很棒的長者.....謝謝能夠訪談他^^衛斯理真是託您的福有你真好^^
學術式拆解文字並且論述完整^^
Just can't help to fall in love with uncle Gordon!💕💕💕 He's so inspiring, kind, knowledgeable!
衛斯理叔叔是位學者，聽他學習中文如此深奧的解析，真是不簡單啊！期待他早點來台灣和他以前的學生相聚，想必定令人感動。⋯
Uncle Gordon 闡述到秦始王「書同文」對中國統一的重要影響，不簡單！
歡迎歡迎來台灣！
There’s an interesting TV show in Taiwan named “一字千金”. It’s a word-game show. At the end of each episode, there’s a section showing the roots of Chinese words. They use pictures to tell people how the words formed and evolved. It might be helpful to you and any one interested in Chinese words.
高登叔叔的解析中文(台灣叫國語)真的太徹底了,被他說中,連我對中文字都不知還能這樣拆解分析,什麼象形,意像之類的,拍save,我以前的國文很差。中文除了口說之外,還有文字,博大精深,某些少用的中文字,連母語者也不會唸,之所以西方人會講中文跟我們聊通常我們會「驚訝」的動作出現,如果連成語都會講那就變「驚呆」,如果中文字都會讀,那我們大概要「躺平」了。^^ 😄😄😄😄
中文字有聲調變化，不同的音拼在一起的詞為了要好唸一些，音調會發生變化。然後字的方面，很多的字是要用背的。
期盼叔叔可以快點來台灣，很有意思的對話謝謝你的分享。
真的常常對我們母語使用者很自然而然的東西對外國人來說很難 之前看一個開實況學中文的美國人才意識到這件事
looking forward to seeing your Uncle and his students getting together after more than 40 years！
叔叔對於語言學的研究真的很深刻👍很厲害
Gordon叔叔說的沒錯，六書之中最多的字就是形聲字，但不見得是最常見的；最日、最基礎的字，反而是象形、指示和會意。中文真的很有意思，應該要好好回過頭來學習。
繁體中文還要「上天地面、左右對稱、平仄相對、一氣呵成」
中文造字有6個方式,"象形", ["指事","會意"],"形聲","[轉注","假借"].
象形就是從圖案轉成的文字,日月金木水火土,手,鳥等等.
指事,會意,有點接近,比方說"上,下",是指事,就是一條水平線,一個東西在上,就造了"上"這個字,同理,"下"也是.
形聲,就是借一個字的發音,加上部首而造出類似但不同意思的字,比方,"河","何",都是從"可"的音,
"鎔"跟"溶",都是融化,但一個是金屬的, 一個是液體的,
所以有人會說"有邊讀邊,沒邊唸中間",因為中文裡有很多形聲字.
什麼部首,通常都代表意思跟該部首有關,最常見的就是,金,木,水,火,土,手(扌),犬(犭),牛(牜).
轉注,假借,大致上是把一個字轉換,或是借用,讓它跟原本意思不同,一時我也想不起來有什麼字是這類的.
另外,科技是指"科學上的,科學方面"的技術,其他種類的技術有,球技,釣技,舞技...,這個科,指科學.
如果說是"技科",這個科指的是學科,比方"生物科","數學科"等.
你伯伯真的很厲害,可以自己研究出這些.
英文裡很多的組合字應該也是類似部首的原則,從這方面入手可能有助於你學中文,
可以考慮買本中文字典.
伯父的對單字的學習方式很好，這在我們受教育過程中都會學到的，『象形、指事、會意、形聲、轉注、假借』，這太複雜可以以後再理解，但是看字的外型跟部首，常常是我們認識陌生中文字用的方式，比如「手」的部首，就能判斷這個字的功能，如果遇到像是「撿」，就能看出他的發音，還有他的功能。
中文的文字是有邏輯性的產生出來，除非只是想學會口語而已，還是非常建議到專業的語文中心，有系統的學習中文比較好。
Gordon是真的很厲害
哪個字是象形、指示、會意的判斷方式很正確
說不定國中小課本對他來說不會很難(除了文言文)
打從內心佩服他
Wes, my tip to you to improve your Mandarin is to watch some of your favourite local TV programs or news regularly. Hope this helps.
你叔叔說的一口標準國語，有學問，氣質好，希望很快在台灣見到他。
中文其實是有系統的，無論字體或聲調，而且只保存在繁體字當中，只有繁體字可以連結這些相關性
衛斯理, 教你一句台語--- "拿去"的台語和英語的"take it " 發音幾乎一樣. LOL
take it see，台語就是"拿去X..........
@@user-nd5eg3kh9y lol..."拿去抬" 就是" take it , die ?
@@user-nd5eg3kh9y 🤣🤣🤣
寒冬中聽戴老師的聲音，感覺溫馨❤️
Uncle Gordon is the best. 👍👍👍👏👏👏
是思儒爺爺～～～～～～ 未看先讚👍🏼
Some “terms 詞語” in mandarin nowadays, are sometimes differ from their ancient meaning and doesn't make sense compare to the meaning of each character themselves, is because some terms are made from Japan, so called 和製漢語. At the time around the 1900s, in which Japan was the most developed country in Asia, also the most Westernized country, translated books and newspapers from western into Japanese. However, there were a lot of terms that couldn't be translated, for some terms were new concepts to the East Asian cultural sphere, so the Japanese decided to invent some new ones. Some were newly invented and some were Chinese old terms with new meaning. Then afterwards some of these terms were brought back to China by the oversea students. There are also many Japanese-made-terms in Taiwanese Hokkien, due to the colonization between 1895-1945.
Thanks for the input!
Another great post Wes. I was 10 years old when I moved from Taiwan to the US without the ability to speak one word of English. Being very young and have no choice but to learn English to survive. After 45 years being in the states my Chinese is slowly fading away but by watching your RUclips channel and your friends channel that is in Chinese I’m slowly picking up Chinese again.
Wes 你可以去圖書館的兒童區借繪本 有很多有聲書 邊聽邊看 每一本可以借一個月之後再續借一個月
衛斯理…你可上網學注音教學、只要學會了在去看國語日報、中文一定進步神速！
5:25 whiskey is Wei she (shi) “Ji” 😉
可以像小學生一樣從練習生字開始，例如:小,大等...還有詞語也是，然後練習寫幾遍，慢慢增加生字量和詞語，就像我們學習英文一樣。
太強了XD 這些是我們國高中國文課會學的，但從來沒想到外國人為了學中文也會學這個w
基本上我忘光光了吧XD
金叔叔太有趣了，學講髒話、看電影都是可以加快學習語言的效率，不怕講錯更是重點唷！💖
Important information for Uncle Gordon: recently a Taiwanese movie, Your Name Engraved Herein 刻在你心底的名字，is hot in the box-office in Taiwan, which plot is based on true story and life experience of the producer and the director, two alumni of Viator High School, Taichung . The movie is now listed on Netflix, which is easily accessible. The ending part of the film was shot in Montreal, Canada.
我聽你們這樣講~我都覺得中文字難了...！哈哈哈. 不過我是喜愛中文字的(本國)人
我覺得那個「莎白」的中文講得比莫xx好！
而且她還是嫁給台灣人...
她的youtube有介紹如何學中文！
其實 Uncle Gordon 的說法講簡單一點就是〝有邊讀邊，沒邊讀中間〞
小時候學國文，這個很關鍵
幸好高登叔叔當年沒有去中國，因為中國的簡體字已經把字體改的亂七八糟了。
乾幹干都寫成干， 好寫但其實沒邏輯。
補充: 髮發 後后 麵面 範范 蕭肖 醜丑 裡里 悻幸 薑姜 準准，都是把不同意思的字硬合併在一起，外國人好寫，但一定覺得很奇怪，為何hair跟send是同一個字?為何noodle跟face是同一個字?
你，伯伯。是人生不可缺少的智慧
It really look forward to you being able to co-work with other local youtubers. I think that should speed up your Chinese learning.
Put pimple pastes on foot, hand, back and face if there is a drilling hole. Mothballs beside the window can help air purifier do a better job. Mothballs also can help washing machine to make clothes cleaner. Hang out clothes indoor without being polluted by the virouses air flow. Bath with alcohol and sanitizer because the water tower is polluted by the virous bubbles in the air. Bleach can kill the virous air flow hiding under the ground which looked like yellow even brown if it's serious. Car outside especially its wheels needs to pesticide.
打開家門就是教室，講太好了
日/韓 會有漢文是因早其他們文字稀少，中華文字文化當時已上千年，
且他們是中華的鄰近國，自國領袖稱"王"，中華稱"皇"。每年會進貢
慢慢延生些許漢字影響
I can't wait to see Uncle Gordon come to Taiwan. What a respectable elder!