125 mph? Lol!!!!! That's fast in America. Slow in the far East and Europe. The first Japanese bullet train opened in the early 50s with a top speed of 150 mph. 125 mph in 2023? Someone has to step it up and it's not the far east and Europe... Highspeed bullet trains and maglev super train technology, the new american dream...
@@MaxiAirthat would be my guess also, although the Union Pacific passenger trains did regularly exceed 100 MPH (sometimes with steam locomotives!) until federal regulations and a lack of lineside equipment for cab signaling put an end to that.
Love hearing real railfans like him talk about how we can make High Speed Rail in the US, and what he says about those silly anti-rail politicians. It reminds of what kind of world we live in nowadays.
Oh boy there is so much I need to correct that the video got it wrong… N700, N700A and N700S are both used and owned by JR West and JR Central. N700-8000 (the blue one) are owned by JR West AND JR Kyushu. E7 is used and owned by JR East AND JR West (I am not too sure is East owning E7 and West owning W7.) And no Sanyo Shinkansen DOES NOT RUN FORMER Tokaido Shinkansen use. Because both the 500 series and (specifically) Hikari Railstar 700 series are all owned by JR west themselves, JR central has NO CONNECTIONS TO THEM SO THEY ARENT FORMER STOCK. The section about the N700As being transferred to West might be wrong or not true, JR West is heard to get 8 car versions of the N700S to replace the 500 series. But rumor continues as it heard that it was delayed. And N700s of JR central and West are possibly going to scrap already. N700A should still remain for more years before going as well. And please don’t use mp/h when they use km/h
JR West does have a history of operating SOME former JR Central 16 car trainsets. In the mid 1990s JR Central gave some of there early built 100 0 series “G” formations to JR West so they could retire the last of there 0 series 16 car “NH” formations that were being used on Hikari services. These JR West 0 series Hikari trains ran on both the Sanyo and Tokiado, but JR Central wanted all 0 series timetabled trains off the Tokiado so they could implement an updated faster schedule. Once JR West had all there 0 Series Hikari updated to the former JR Central 100 G stock, Central retired the last of there own 0 Series “YK” Kodama local trains, and the Tokiado Shinkansen became 0 series free in 1999. The same thing happened in late 2011/12 when JR Central wanted to retire the 300 Series from the Tokiado. The issue was that JR West still operated some through service Hikari and extra Nozomi services that used 300 3000 “F” formation stock that was limited to 270KMH operation. JR Central donated some early 700 0 “C” sets in order to completely remove the 300 series from service to avoid any timetable conflicts that the 300 series was not capable of meeting.
Great video on the greatest high speed rail network in the world! Japan is a prime example as to what happens when you properly fund a rail network, as its high speed, intercity and commuter services are unlike anything else in the world. I also didn't know the Shinkansen had their own dedicated MOW vehicles other than Dr. Yellow. (Nice jab at UPHSR at 18:17 btw). Brightline is also a great example of an essential passenger rail service as it not only connests highly developed regions, but they like JR Group are privately funded, meaning the taxpayers don't have to pay a cent for it!
That's objectively not true. Brightline is privately-owned but explicitly publicly funded. Their last three projects were 90+ % funded by various state and Federal grants. This is public information. I encourage you to look it up and disprove me! I'll wait! Also, Brightline are themselves saying that they will never make a cent of profit on actual rail operations. All their profit and almost all of their revenue is supposed to come from real estate. That real estate was made possible exclusively by the local governments allowing them to build stuff that is not allowed to be built at those locations. In other words, even their theoretically private source of revenue is actually indirectly subsidized by the government. Transportation is always subsidized by the government. It's been like this since the very first ancient Mesopotamian and Roman roads all the way to today's 100% subsidized highways. We need to stop pretending like it's possible to capture the very large but also very diffuse economic effects that a strong transportation network generates with use fees. This is not a thing that has ever worked on system level. The only way to make money in transportation is to capture a key link on a subsidized network and milk it. That's not "private" business. That's just legalized corruption.
the reason the US doesnt have high speed rail is because of the highway network. Thats because its just how we do things in America. American culture has always been heavily based on automobiles and cars instead of mass transit like Japan
This! The Japanese government subsidized HSR while we subsidized the highway network. We each got what we wanted. But we guessed wrong and Japan guessed right. Now we just need to stop throwing good money after bad. Burning even more money on highways will do us no good. We just reverse the original mistake.
Yes the highway systems were designed to be mass a transit network between American cities but there are other reasons for lack or real high speed rail in the USA. 1st is the geography of the USA, Its a huge land mass that has many large and midsize cities that are spread out throughout the county. Some east coast cities and some on the west will benefit, but most cities in the USA will never see high speed rail, as its to expensive and would not be as efficient for trips more that 5 to 600 miles. lack of existing secondary rail infrastructure also would major issue in many cities, because where would people go once they arrive in a city by bullet train? there needs to be a efficient way to get people around the cities and to the suburban areas in a reasonable time to make taking the bullet train worth while. Also the Existing rail infrastructure in the states is mainly owed by freight companies and is not designed for high speed. Whole new networks would have to be built, and the question of what cities to connect would be a issue. Denver to Vegas? Minneapolis to Chicago? Cleveland to New York? Orlando to Atlanta? many of the lines would have to be dedicated between 2 cities because of how spread out the cities are, and streamlined operations would be difficult and likely be prone to delays due to weather and scheduling issues. All in All the US just is not a good market for a high-speed rail system outside of a few select areas.
„Has always“. When do you think your country was founded, when Henry Ford had the first model-T roll of the production line? You made the conscious move away from passenger rail from the 40s onwards. It didn‘t have to happen, and it certainly hasn‘t always been like it is now.
@@cleasanna05 Dude, all of your propaganda has already been debunked. What difference does it make if there's nothing in the flyover states if HSR is only ever built between city pairs 200-500 miles apart? No one is proposing what you are claiming won't work. Read the actual proposals that exist. CAHSR, Texas Central, Brightline West, improved NEC, Cascades HSR. None of what you wrote applies to any of the HSR proposals on the table. Just please read a little on this subject before posting.
@@TohaBgood2 where are the proposal for a Nationwide highspeed rail network? i see none, only in select areas which will connect only select cities. The factors i mentioned are not true? please debunk them. You going to ignore the geographic and infrastructure issues i mentioned? what are you talking about? Bright line is regional, Texas Central is on hold and only connects 2 cites as well as Cali projects will only connect a few cities. Thats all that will work. Proposals are a dime a dozen, does not mean they will ever happen.
favourite shinkansen are the E2 and E3s because when i was a kid there was this video about the shinkansen but that was before the E5.E6,E7,E8,H5 were introduced
It has been studied in great detail. If the bullet train were to be introduced in the U.S., it would play the most role between San Francisco and Los Angeles, and between Washington D.C. and New York or Boston and New York
4:46 Six privatized companies all of which have continued the Shinkansen legacy JR Shikoku: YES we have the "Tetsudo Hobby Train" which is inarguably a Shinkansen! 🚅
Again the same weird mistake about the timeline of the construction of the Shinkansen pops up. The Shinkansen started planning in the 1930s and the plans were finalized by 1939 for the first line (of many). By the early 1940s construction on the Tokyo to Osaka Shinkansen had already began and they did manage to build a good sized portion of the line and some of the tunnels. Yes, they had to stop later into WW2, but they did continue building until at least 1943! That's 50% 1958-1964 timeline of the later project that finished the job. After the war many improvements to this first Shinkansen line were bundled in with general repairs to the rail system. They did not just stop building and restarted in 1958. They continued doing the little that they could afford to do for this line. The 1958 project was explicitly a project to _finish_ the first Shinkansen line, and was sold to the public as such. Nevertheless, everyone toady likes to forget this little factoid. It took Japan over 20 years to finish the Tokyo to Osaka line from the first day of construction to the day of the first limited passenger operations in 1964. And that line was far from finished even then. They continued to "finish the first Shinkansen line" for almost a decade afterwards. This was a titanic effort that everyone just ignores! Denying this complicated history of the very first HSR line in the world cheapens the achievement. Japan persevered against all odds, through a world war that they lost, with all the naysayers constantly calling for the project to be cancelled in favor of highways, through financial hardships and 2-3x cost increases. This is extremely similar to how modern HSR projects happen today. By pretending like none of this ever happened you're doing a massive disservice to the development of modern HSR. If you all keep pretending like something that is actually very hard to do is easy-breezy then you're setting everyone up for perpetual disappointment and cancelled projects. Knock it off!
@@TohaBgood2 You may be correct but nonetheless, the bottom line is, Japan built and put into operation highspeed bullet trains decades ago. This is something the mighty United States of America should have done. Today Japan has the second largest highspeed rail grid on earth. The United States of America still remains behind because americans are stupid and ignorant, just like csxtfarmer who made the boo hoo remark. He has ignorance in his blood and stupidity for a mind because he's an American. People like him are the reason why we fail. But for the rest of us who are for improvement of infrastructure, Highspeed bullet trains and maglev super train technology, the new american dream....
And again, today Japan not ony has the second largest highspeed rail grid on earth, they are now reaching the next level of highspeed bullet train technology with maglev super train technology. Now under construction from Tokyo to Nagoya is the Chuo Shinkansen maglev super train technology. These are trains that reach speeds of 375mph superseding any public vehicle anywhere in the mighty United States of America. Highspeed bullet trains and maglev super train technology is a reality in the far more advanced countries of the far east and Europe but. The new american dream..
@@Pensyfan19 JR tried to propose their project for CAHSR. It was comical. They were laughed out of the room. They wanted an elevated guideway almost the whole way. This included seizing private homes for a brand new elevated right of way in literally the most expensive metro areas on the planet. They either did not know that NIMBYs exist or deliberately failed so that they don't have to build the project. JR is also failing now with their project in India. It's more over budget than CAHSR and even HS2. Stop idolizing JR. They're a hyper-corrupt government-sponsored megacorp with extensive ties to the Japanese mafia. The only time that they have ever made any money is when the Japanese government handed it to them, or when some sucker country paid double for one of their construction projects purely based on the Shinkansen system's reputation. And when they fail hard enough, or when the execs steal too much money again, the government is right there to bail them out!
The Sanyo Shinkansen does NOT get hand-me-downs from the Tokaido shinkansen. Their operators are entirely different and individually decide what trainsets to order. The 500 series was never purchased by JR Central (who owns the Tokaido Shinkansen), only JR West (who owns the Sanyo Shinkansen) ever ordered them. The N700s owned by JR West on the Sanyo Shinkansen are technically a variant not operated by JR Central (the N700-7000). The E3 series trains are often coupled with E2 trains as they have the same top speed of 275km/h. Both are being phased out. E2s are being replaced by E5/H5 trainsets and the E3s are being replaced by E8s to have a common top speed across the entire tohoku shinkansen of 320km/h. Testing and construction is already underway to upgrade the tohoku shinkansen to 360km/h. Phase 2 of the Nishi-Kyushu shinkansen is just a paper plan at this point. It has not been built because the prefecture it passes through refuses to fund its part as it feels that it wont benefit from the shinkansen. It is currently unknown if it will ever be built. And for those who don't know, the Tokaido Shinkansen is the MOST profitable high speed line in Japan by a large margin. It also has the largest passenger volume of any shinkansen line (174 million passengers in fiscal year 2019. The next highest passenger volume is the tohoku shinkansen which had just 89.4 million passengers in fiscal year 2019. This translates to a revenue of JPY 1,291 Billion (This is 92% of JR Central's annual revenue) vs JPY 376.3 Billion respectively in 2019. There is a video by JPRail that goes into more detail.
indeed, even the 8 car 700 Railstar sets were purchased for the Sanyo shinkansen by JR west and were originally planned to be able to connect to another 8 car set to create a 16 car train but it was never done. The 500s were doing Nozomi to Tokyo but were shortened and condensed to just Sanyo in 2010. indeed. Jr west has always had their own trains. The E-8s will not run at 320kph, they will couple to the E5s and run 275kph until the E3s are phased out, this is to not disrupt the timetable because of the 2 train types being in service at the same time. After that the E-8/E5s will run together at 300kph. The E8s don't need to do 320kph as they don't run high speed past Fukushima and the time gain between Utsunomiya and Fukushima would not be that much. Yes the track sound barriers on the Tohoku Shinkansen are being upgraded and some glass walls added. When the Next Generation trains come along in the next 7-10 years the goal will be to run them at 360kph to make the Hokkaido shinkansen extension competitive with air travel from Tokyo.
@@valiant8730 Nope. All Shinkansen lines are by law entitled to no less than 30% construction cash subsidy and a ton of other work that is done for free. Utility relocations, permitting, infrastructure to the stations, etc., etc. is all subsidized up to 100% from a mix of local and national government subsidies. And of course, there's the elephant in the room - the real estate subsidies. The rail companies in Japan automatically get special privileges in how they can develop the land that they choose for the stations. This is also a direct subsidy because most Japanese rail companies take a loss on rail operations to make money solely on the government-sponsored real estate. In other words, free stuff is a myth. The government still pays for Japan's rail service. But unlike in Western nations, where this subsidy is transparent and under constant public scrutiny to ensure certain standards, in Japan these semi-private companies just get a bunch of money and steal as much of it as they please. Then they declare a bankruptcy or two, and the whole cycle starts again. It's a silly, clown show system. I'm glad that it sort-of works there, but it's not something anyone should try to copy. It's just not a good system.
@@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist Because unlike our dumb asses over in Anglo-America, they actually invested in transportation and infrastructure technology that got people off roads instead of crowding them because doing so somehow "freedom"...
when you said it never had a single death your wrong in 2015 or 2016 a guy was struck and killed by one after falling on the tracks, thats why so many japan and china train routes have platform doors
I've got mixed feelings about the Shinkansen network. Yes, those lines are fast and due to the separation from other traffic extremely reliable. Thats excellent and no small achievement. But its basically a long line from North to South trough the country, with barely any other connections. Not really a dense network interconnected throughout. And the regional lines are often quite slow. Trains aren't as reliable in Europe, thats for sure, but the density throughout the country is a lot higher and there are endless connection points between East-West/North-South running long distance trains etc.. Also upgrading traditional lines to 200/230 kph helps expand the networks drastically, which couldn't really happen in Japan due to the different gauges. In fact, Japan has some 2800km of Shinkansen network, which is impressive and similar to France, Germany has only 1600km of true Highspeed network, but more than 2800km of tracks 200kph and faster, and over 6600km of network served by ICE trains overall. And just in general, I can't be the only one to consider almost all Shinkansen trains to be utterly hideous, with the N500s and E7/W7 being the least worst. That is something Europe without a doubt does a lot better (Spanish Talgo Ducklings are sort of the exception).
Agreed on the points. Actually, I'm a lot more critical of the Shinkansen system than you are. They are a wildly subsidized and extremely corrupt set of corporations with extensive Yakuza ties. Typical Japanese megacorps that are shamelessly suckling on the government's teat while pretending to be "profitable." The fact that this economic model for fast rail keeps getting brought up is insane. The devil himself wouldn't be able to replicate the complicated web of sneaky and overt subsidies, real estate speculation, corruption, and mafia pay-to-play to create another Shinkansen system in another country. Even they are just barely keeping it afloat. The whole thing is constantly at some stage of going bankrupt. Occasionally the entire system fails when too many of the execs steal too much money simultaneously, and the government always dutifully bails them out. It's a joke of a system from an economical point of view. Yet, I still love those trains. They're a sight to behold in person!
But how do you want to connect East with West in country so thin like your point of view? Especially when there are mountains in the middle. Why regional trains are slow? Because: 1. Narrow gauge 2. Often earthquakes Their train suck? So that’s why most are still operated after 40 years of being in service and most get either refurbished or sent off for retirement after hitting 18? Oh, yeah? Germany trains so good? Over 85% of ICE trains are running with small to moderate issues like doors not working or broken toilets etc. And if Europe is soooooooo goooood… then why most DB trains are so late you can time travel on them? Average train latency per year in Japan is 3 seconds while in Europe it’s 2 hours. So shut… And design? Shinkansen trains are designed to be aerodynamic, not fancy.
@@crvcrfing I'm not sure what you are replying to or what you read? That must be something in your head. Because I never said, that the Shinkansen System sucks and I explicitly pointed out that they are very punctual, while European trains are not. Also the age question, I don't even understand what you are trying to say. I didn't even talk about the age of trains and Europe has fairly old ones as well, even in High Speed Service. Old trains aren't bad and some High speed trains in Germany have gone trough two complete interior refurbishments as well. Sure, ICE trains running with many minor technical issues, because there are fewer spare trains sitting idle to cover more downtime for cosmetical repairs, but again, not even a pont I mentioned. And looks, well, European trains certainly have experienced a lot of aerodynamic testing as well, but instead of squeezing one or two more percent out of it, decided on a visually more appealing compromise. And looking at the shown test train, where almost the whole first car is taken up by the nose, in an 400m train thats wasting 10% of passenger capacity, if you have half length trains, thats reaching up to 20%. In the real world everything is a trade off and trading so much capacity, plus the visual appeal for a few percent less air resistance is a poor trade off in my opinion. Simple as that.
@@valiant8730 You're actually proving his point. So much economic activity but so few lines and much poorer connectivity. That would be a disadvantage, no?
By the time Japan fully opens their MagLev train we will have moved on from climate change to a new thing for people to be scared of, so it might arrive just in time!
@@solarflare623 Not sure, we've had an ice-age, a heat wave, killer bees, the millennium bug, nuclear destruction, the second-coming of Christ predicted multiple times... Who knows? But don't worry, some unelectable politician, a billionaire who defo isn't making money from the scam or an autistic Swedish teenager will be along before then to reassure you that your demise is imminent, except this time they will really mean it.
That maglev project is stalled. They're unable to proceed after 2x cost overruns and a more than 2x increase in the timeline, one of the prefectures has refused to allow to cross their land. It might still get worked out if the government gets involved, and the railroad is still pretending like they have a shot. But for all intents and purposes this project is dead. It's Transrapid maglev all over again.
@@TohaBgood2 Fine, scrap the whole thing, move on to teleportation; probably should've skipped straight to that anyhow. I mean, It can't be THAT difficult can it? While they're at that, maybe they can work on a replicator for people too, which presumably would be like a Xerox where you just ask for 2 copies not 1. I mean, sure, 1 of them is your wife but the other is free to marry me since they can't both be married to you Dave. Sorry, I think I went off on a tangent there. No one tell Dave my plan.
@@TohaBgood2 JR Central don't care about the cost issue as the company earns $5B income every year and tends increasing. The real issue is Shizouka governor is a stupid leftist, most citizens and neighbouring prefetures are criticize him.
The Union Pacific 125mph zone is extremely advanced humor
Glad someone noticed
@@WorldwideRailfanHow do I find THIS, a Union Pacific hat has a HSR mark red on It.
Is that referencing the Cajon Pass derailment? Or what is the joke behind it?
125 mph? Lol!!!!! That's fast in America. Slow in the far East and Europe. The first Japanese bullet train opened in the early 50s with a top speed of 150 mph. 125 mph in 2023? Someone has to step it up and it's not the far east and Europe... Highspeed bullet trains and maglev super train technology, the new american dream...
@@MaxiAirthat would be my guess also, although the Union Pacific passenger trains did regularly exceed 100 MPH (sometimes with steam locomotives!) until federal regulations and a lack of lineside equipment for cab signaling put an end to that.
Love hearing real railfans like him talk about how we can make High Speed Rail in the US, and what he says about those silly anti-rail politicians. It reminds of what kind of world we live in nowadays.
テキサス新幹線は日本の新幹線が採用されました。
安全、安心。車両事故０です。 他国のような事故はありません。
出来上がるのが楽しみですね。
Oh boy there is so much I need to correct that the video got it wrong…
N700, N700A and N700S are both used and owned by JR West and JR Central. N700-8000 (the blue one) are owned by JR West AND JR Kyushu.
E7 is used and owned by JR East AND JR West (I am not too sure is East owning E7 and West owning W7.)
And no Sanyo Shinkansen DOES NOT RUN FORMER Tokaido Shinkansen use. Because both the 500 series and (specifically) Hikari Railstar 700 series are all owned by JR west themselves, JR central has NO CONNECTIONS TO THEM SO THEY ARENT FORMER STOCK.
The section about the N700As being transferred to West might be wrong or not true, JR West is heard to get 8 car versions of the N700S to replace the 500 series. But rumor continues as it heard that it was delayed. And N700s of JR central and West are possibly going to scrap already. N700A should still remain for more years before going as well.
And please don’t use mp/h when they use km/h
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JR West does have a history of operating SOME former JR Central 16 car trainsets. In the mid 1990s JR Central gave some of there early built 100 0 series “G” formations to JR West so they could retire the last of there 0 series 16 car “NH” formations that were being used on Hikari services. These JR West 0 series Hikari trains ran on both the Sanyo and Tokiado, but JR Central wanted all 0 series timetabled trains off the Tokiado so they could implement an updated faster schedule. Once JR West had all there 0 Series Hikari updated to the former JR Central 100 G stock, Central retired the last of there own 0 Series “YK” Kodama local trains, and the Tokiado Shinkansen became 0 series free in 1999. The same thing happened in late 2011/12 when JR Central wanted to retire the 300 Series from the Tokiado. The issue was that JR West still operated some through service Hikari and extra Nozomi services that used 300 3000 “F” formation stock that was limited to 270KMH operation. JR Central donated some early 700 0 “C” sets in order to completely remove the 300 series from service to avoid any timetable conflicts that the 300 series was not capable of meeting.
Glad you're covering other railways. Awesome video, cheers.
Great video on the greatest high speed rail network in the world! Japan is a prime example as to what happens when you properly fund a rail network, as its high speed, intercity and commuter services are unlike anything else in the world. I also didn't know the Shinkansen had their own dedicated MOW vehicles other than Dr. Yellow. (Nice jab at UPHSR at 18:17 btw). Brightline is also a great example of an essential passenger rail service as it not only connests highly developed regions, but they like JR Group are privately funded, meaning the taxpayers don't have to pay a cent for it!
That's objectively not true. Brightline is privately-owned but explicitly publicly funded. Their last three projects were 90+ % funded by various state and Federal grants. This is public information. I encourage you to look it up and disprove me! I'll wait!
Also, Brightline are themselves saying that they will never make a cent of profit on actual rail operations. All their profit and almost all of their revenue is supposed to come from real estate. That real estate was made possible exclusively by the local governments allowing them to build stuff that is not allowed to be built at those locations. In other words, even their theoretically private source of revenue is actually indirectly subsidized by the government.
Transportation is always subsidized by the government. It's been like this since the very first ancient Mesopotamian and Roman roads all the way to today's 100% subsidized highways. We need to stop pretending like it's possible to capture the very large but also very diffuse economic effects that a strong transportation network generates with use fees. This is not a thing that has ever worked on system level. The only way to make money in transportation is to capture a key link on a subsidized network and milk it. That's not "private" business. That's just legalized corruption.
the reason the US doesnt have high speed rail is because of the highway network. Thats because its just how we do things in America. American culture has always been heavily based on automobiles and cars instead of mass transit like Japan
This! The Japanese government subsidized HSR while we subsidized the highway network. We each got what we wanted. But we guessed wrong and Japan guessed right.
Now we just need to stop throwing good money after bad. Burning even more money on highways will do us no good. We just reverse the original mistake.
Yes the highway systems were designed to be mass a transit network between American cities but there are other reasons for lack or real high speed rail in the USA. 1st is the geography of the USA, Its a huge land mass that has many large and midsize cities that are spread out throughout the county. Some east coast cities and some on the west will benefit, but most cities in the USA will never see high speed rail, as its to expensive and would not be as efficient for trips more that 5 to 600 miles. lack of existing secondary rail infrastructure also would major issue in many cities, because where would people go once they arrive in a city by bullet train? there needs to be a efficient way to get people around the cities and to the suburban areas in a reasonable time to make taking the bullet train worth while. Also the Existing rail infrastructure in the states is mainly owed by freight companies and is not designed for high speed. Whole new networks would have to be built, and the question of what cities to connect would be a issue. Denver to Vegas? Minneapolis to Chicago? Cleveland to New York? Orlando to Atlanta? many of the lines would have to be dedicated between 2 cities because of how spread out the cities are, and streamlined operations would be difficult and likely be prone to delays due to weather and scheduling issues. All in All the US just is not a good market for a high-speed rail system outside of a few select areas.
„Has always“. When do you think your country was founded, when Henry Ford had the first model-T roll of the production line?
You made the conscious move away from passenger rail from the 40s onwards. It didn‘t have to happen, and it certainly hasn‘t always been like it is now.
@@cleasanna05 Dude, all of your propaganda has already been debunked. What difference does it make if there's nothing in the flyover states if HSR is only ever built between city pairs 200-500 miles apart? No one is proposing what you are claiming won't work. Read the actual proposals that exist. CAHSR, Texas Central, Brightline West, improved NEC, Cascades HSR. None of what you wrote applies to any of the HSR proposals on the table.
Just please read a little on this subject before posting.
@@TohaBgood2 where are the proposal for a Nationwide highspeed rail network? i see none, only in select areas which will connect only select cities. The factors i mentioned are not true? please debunk them. You going to ignore the geographic and infrastructure issues i mentioned? what are you talking about? Bright line is regional, Texas Central is on hold and only connects 2 cites as well as Cali projects will only connect a few cities. Thats all that will work. Proposals are a dime a dozen, does not mean they will ever happen.
favourite shinkansen are the E2 and E3s because when i was a kid there was this video about the shinkansen but that was before the E5.E6,E7,E8,H5 were introduced
10:33 Oh quack you found the Dr. Yellow! Now you are right on track!
It has been studied in great detail. If the bullet train were to be introduced in the U.S., it would play the most role between San Francisco and Los Angeles, and between Washington D.C. and New York or Boston and New York
4:46 Six privatized companies all of which have continued the Shinkansen legacy
JR Shikoku: YES we have the "Tetsudo Hobby Train" which is inarguably a Shinkansen! 🚅
Again the same weird mistake about the timeline of the construction of the Shinkansen pops up. The Shinkansen started planning in the 1930s and the plans were finalized by 1939 for the first line (of many). By the early 1940s construction on the Tokyo to Osaka Shinkansen had already began and they did manage to build a good sized portion of the line and some of the tunnels. Yes, they had to stop later into WW2, but they did continue building until at least 1943! That's 50% 1958-1964 timeline of the later project that finished the job.
After the war many improvements to this first Shinkansen line were bundled in with general repairs to the rail system. They did not just stop building and restarted in 1958. They continued doing the little that they could afford to do for this line. The 1958 project was explicitly a project to _finish_ the first Shinkansen line, and was sold to the public as such. Nevertheless, everyone toady likes to forget this little factoid. It took Japan over 20 years to finish the Tokyo to Osaka line from the first day of construction to the day of the first limited passenger operations in 1964. And that line was far from finished even then. They continued to "finish the first Shinkansen line" for almost a decade afterwards. This was a titanic effort that everyone just ignores!
Denying this complicated history of the very first HSR line in the world cheapens the achievement. Japan persevered against all odds, through a world war that they lost, with all the naysayers constantly calling for the project to be cancelled in favor of highways, through financial hardships and 2-3x cost increases. This is extremely similar to how modern HSR projects happen today. By pretending like none of this ever happened you're doing a massive disservice to the development of modern HSR. If you all keep pretending like something that is actually very hard to do is easy-breezy then you're setting everyone up for perpetual disappointment and cancelled projects. Knock it off!
Boo hoo
@@csxtfarmer What I said is 100% accurate. The video is simply wrong on this.
If you can't nerd out on a train video, where can you??
@@TohaBgood2 You may be correct but nonetheless, the bottom line is, Japan built and put into operation highspeed bullet trains decades ago. This is something the mighty United States of America should have done. Today Japan has the second largest highspeed rail grid on earth. The United States of America still remains behind because americans are stupid and ignorant, just like csxtfarmer who made the boo hoo remark. He has ignorance in his blood and stupidity for a mind because he's an American. People like him are the reason why we fail. But for the rest of us who are for improvement of infrastructure, Highspeed bullet trains and maglev super train technology, the new american dream....
@@csxtfarmer ignorance is bliss...
And again, today Japan not ony has the second largest highspeed rail grid on earth, they are now reaching the next level of highspeed bullet train technology with maglev super train technology. Now under construction from Tokyo to Nagoya is the Chuo Shinkansen maglev super train technology. These are trains that reach speeds of 375mph superseding any public vehicle anywhere in the mighty United States of America. Highspeed bullet trains and maglev super train technology is a reality in the far more advanced countries of the far east and Europe but. The new american dream..
So cool!
Beautiful trains 💯
Great Video, as always Sam!
The United States is mighty but Japan is far more advanced. Highspeed bullet trains and maglev super train technology, the new american dream..
Great video! Loved it!
Awesome as always!
Gives me hope for CHR
Give the project to JR.
@@Pensyfan19 JR tried to propose their project for CAHSR. It was comical. They were laughed out of the room. They wanted an elevated guideway almost the whole way. This included seizing private homes for a brand new elevated right of way in literally the most expensive metro areas on the planet. They either did not know that NIMBYs exist or deliberately failed so that they don't have to build the project.
JR is also failing now with their project in India. It's more over budget than CAHSR and even HS2. Stop idolizing JR. They're a hyper-corrupt government-sponsored megacorp with extensive ties to the Japanese mafia. The only time that they have ever made any money is when the Japanese government handed it to them, or when some sucker country paid double for one of their construction projects purely based on the Shinkansen system's reputation. And when they fail hard enough, or when the execs steal too much money again, the government is right there to bail them out!
The Sanyo Shinkansen does NOT get hand-me-downs from the Tokaido shinkansen. Their operators are entirely different and individually decide what trainsets to order. The 500 series was never purchased by JR Central (who owns the Tokaido Shinkansen), only JR West (who owns the Sanyo Shinkansen) ever ordered them. The N700s owned by JR West on the Sanyo Shinkansen are technically a variant not operated by JR Central (the N700-7000).
The E3 series trains are often coupled with E2 trains as they have the same top speed of 275km/h. Both are being phased out. E2s are being replaced by E5/H5 trainsets and the E3s are being replaced by E8s to have a common top speed across the entire tohoku shinkansen of 320km/h. Testing and construction is already underway to upgrade the tohoku shinkansen to 360km/h.
Phase 2 of the Nishi-Kyushu shinkansen is just a paper plan at this point. It has not been built because the prefecture it passes through refuses to fund its part as it feels that it wont benefit from the shinkansen. It is currently unknown if it will ever be built.
And for those who don't know, the Tokaido Shinkansen is the MOST profitable high speed line in Japan by a large margin. It also has the largest passenger volume of any shinkansen line (174 million passengers in fiscal year 2019. The next highest passenger volume is the tohoku shinkansen which had just 89.4 million passengers in fiscal year 2019. This translates to a revenue of JPY 1,291 Billion (This is 92% of JR Central's annual revenue) vs JPY 376.3 Billion respectively in 2019. There is a video by JPRail that goes into more detail.
indeed, even the 8 car 700 Railstar sets were purchased for the Sanyo shinkansen by JR west and were originally planned to be able to connect to another 8 car set to create a 16 car train but it was never done. The 500s were doing Nozomi to Tokyo but were shortened and condensed to just Sanyo in 2010. indeed. Jr west has always had their own trains.
The E-8s will not run at 320kph, they will couple to the E5s and run 275kph until the E3s are phased out, this is to not disrupt the timetable because of the 2 train types being in service at the same time. After that the E-8/E5s will run together at 300kph. The E8s don't need to do 320kph as they don't run high speed past Fukushima and the time gain between Utsunomiya and Fukushima would not be that much. Yes the track sound barriers on the Tohoku Shinkansen are being upgraded and some glass walls added. When the Next Generation trains come along in the next 7-10 years the goal will be to run them at 360kph to make the Hokkaido shinkansen extension competitive with air travel from Tokyo.
Very good documentary, shinkansen is certainly the best in rail technology.
Train fans : N700
Me : E5
1:35 Narberth ❤❤❤
4:49 JR Hokkaido, JR Shikoku, and JR Freight are state owned. Btw
I love the shinkansen network!!!
And all Shinkansen expansion is subsidized or entirely funded by the federal government.
@@mikaelj90 A tiny little fact that literally everyone just looooooooves to forget!
@@mikaelj90 except the Maglev Chuo linear-shinkansen line, most privately funded by JR Central and a bit loan from government due to Covid.
@@valiant8730 Nope. All Shinkansen lines are by law entitled to no less than 30% construction cash subsidy and a ton of other work that is done for free. Utility relocations, permitting, infrastructure to the stations, etc., etc. is all subsidized up to 100% from a mix of local and national government subsidies.
And of course, there's the elephant in the room - the real estate subsidies. The rail companies in Japan automatically get special privileges in how they can develop the land that they choose for the stations. This is also a direct subsidy because most Japanese rail companies take a loss on rail operations to make money solely on the government-sponsored real estate.
In other words, free stuff is a myth. The government still pays for Japan's rail service. But unlike in Western nations, where this subsidy is transparent and under constant public scrutiny to ensure certain standards, in Japan these semi-private companies just get a bunch of money and steal as much of it as they please. Then they declare a bankruptcy or two, and the whole cycle starts again. It's a silly, clown show system. I'm glad that it sort-of works there, but it's not something anyone should try to copy. It's just not a good system.
@@TohaBgood2 yeah other lines. Linear is not.
17:17 just 50% more energy for over 50% higher speed is actually more efficient.
Japan showing up the world in transport like totally!!!
You were right you really have really outdone yourself with this! Im so pleasantly surprised by this quality!😊
Looking forward!
JR's Shinkansen is queen and king.
can you please do a video on the revival attempts of the TEE in Europe
3:54 The 0 Series only did 210 km/h (130 mph) till ‘86 when the 200 Series entered service doing 220 kph (137 mph)
Man how the jell did they have trains 50 km/h faster than canada's fastest train 60 years ago
@@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist Because unlike our dumb asses over in Anglo-America, they actually invested in transportation and infrastructure technology that got people off roads instead of crowding them because doing so somehow "freedom"...
How can you write km/h and then miswrite it like "kph" in the same sentence XD
@@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter km/hr.
@@TyrannoJoris_Rex mphr
Time to stack up JR Central stocks i guess
Ridge Racer Type 4 OST !
新幹線は高速、安全、快適、定時、大量輸送が出来る乗り物です。アメリカの中で人口密度が高い地域には、高速鉄道を敷設すると良いでしょう。
Thank you 🙏… enjoyed the documentary
Can you do the same video but with Spain 🇪🇸 and other European countries 🫶🏻?
What about the TGV😢, surely that has to be the world's greatest. Still a good documentary.
Shinkansen was the first and (imo) it was the best
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Sam, good video, to be honest, I was not a fan of the music in the intro. Too loud and really didnt sit right.
when you said it never had a single death your wrong in 2015 or 2016 a guy was struck and killed by one after falling on the tracks, thats why so many japan and china train routes have platform doors
What he means is that no one have ever died on board because of an accident.
Correct, that guy fell on the tracks. I dont know about your parents but mine taught me to never play on railroad tracks....
P R O M O S M 😏
I've got mixed feelings about the Shinkansen network. Yes, those lines are fast and due to the separation from other traffic extremely reliable. Thats excellent and no small achievement. But its basically a long line from North to South trough the country, with barely any other connections. Not really a dense network interconnected throughout. And the regional lines are often quite slow. Trains aren't as reliable in Europe, thats for sure, but the density throughout the country is a lot higher and there are endless connection points between East-West/North-South running long distance trains etc.. Also upgrading traditional lines to 200/230 kph helps expand the networks drastically, which couldn't really happen in Japan due to the different gauges. In fact, Japan has some 2800km of Shinkansen network, which is impressive and similar to France, Germany has only 1600km of true Highspeed network, but more than 2800km of tracks 200kph and faster, and over 6600km of network served by ICE trains overall.
And just in general, I can't be the only one to consider almost all Shinkansen trains to be utterly hideous, with the N500s and E7/W7 being the least worst. That is something Europe without a doubt does a lot better (Spanish Talgo Ducklings are sort of the exception).
Agreed on the points. Actually, I'm a lot more critical of the Shinkansen system than you are. They are a wildly subsidized and extremely corrupt set of corporations with extensive Yakuza ties. Typical Japanese megacorps that are shamelessly suckling on the government's teat while pretending to be "profitable."
The fact that this economic model for fast rail keeps getting brought up is insane. The devil himself wouldn't be able to replicate the complicated web of sneaky and overt subsidies, real estate speculation, corruption, and mafia pay-to-play to create another Shinkansen system in another country. Even they are just barely keeping it afloat. The whole thing is constantly at some stage of going bankrupt. Occasionally the entire system fails when too many of the execs steal too much money simultaneously, and the government always dutifully bails them out. It's a joke of a system from an economical point of view.
Yet, I still love those trains. They're a sight to behold in person!
But how do you want to connect East with West in country so thin like your point of view? Especially when there are mountains in the middle.
Why regional trains are slow? Because:
1. Narrow gauge
2. Often earthquakes
Their train suck? So that’s why most are still operated after 40 years of being in service and most get either refurbished or sent off for retirement after hitting 18?
Oh, yeah? Germany trains so good? Over 85% of ICE trains are running with small to moderate issues like doors not working or broken toilets etc.
And if Europe is soooooooo goooood… then why most DB trains are so late you can time travel on them?
Average train latency per year in Japan is 3 seconds while in Europe it’s 2 hours. So shut…
And design? Shinkansen trains are designed to be aerodynamic, not fancy.
@@crvcrfing I'm not sure what you are replying to or what you read? That must be something in your head. Because I never said, that the Shinkansen System sucks and I explicitly pointed out that they are very punctual, while European trains are not. Also the age question, I don't
even understand what you are trying to say. I didn't even talk about the age of trains and Europe has fairly old ones as well, even in High Speed Service. Old trains aren't bad and some High speed trains in Germany have gone trough two complete interior refurbishments as well.
Sure, ICE trains running with many minor technical issues, because there are fewer spare trains sitting idle to cover more downtime for cosmetical repairs, but again, not even a pont I mentioned.
And looks, well, European trains certainly have experienced a lot of aerodynamic testing as well, but instead of squeezing one or two more percent out of it, decided on a visually more appealing compromise. And looking at the shown test train, where almost the whole first car is taken up by the nose, in an 400m train thats wasting 10% of passenger capacity, if you have half length trains, thats reaching up to 20%. In the real world everything is a trade off and trading so much capacity, plus the visual appeal for a few percent less air resistance is a poor trade off in my opinion. Simple as that.
Uh LOL, GDP of the area that served by Tokaido Shinkansen line is equal to GDP of whole France
@@valiant8730 You're actually proving his point. So much economic activity but so few lines and much poorer connectivity. That would be a disadvantage, no?
You are aware that the word 'train' does not mean locomotives and wagons, right? Just a 'train of thought'...
By the time Japan fully opens their MagLev train we will have moved on from climate change to a new thing for people to be scared of, so it might arrive just in time!
What is that new thing? What will I need!
@@solarflare623 Not sure, we've had an ice-age, a heat wave, killer bees, the millennium bug, nuclear destruction, the second-coming of Christ predicted multiple times... Who knows? But don't worry, some unelectable politician, a billionaire who defo isn't making money from the scam or an autistic Swedish teenager will be along before then to reassure you that your demise is imminent, except this time they will really mean it.
That maglev project is stalled. They're unable to proceed after 2x cost overruns and a more than 2x increase in the timeline, one of the prefectures has refused to allow to cross their land.
It might still get worked out if the government gets involved, and the railroad is still pretending like they have a shot. But for all intents and purposes this project is dead. It's Transrapid maglev all over again.
@@TohaBgood2 Fine, scrap the whole thing, move on to teleportation; probably should've skipped straight to that anyhow. I mean, It can't be THAT difficult can it? While they're at that, maybe they can work on a replicator for people too, which presumably would be like a Xerox where you just ask for 2 copies not 1. I mean, sure, 1 of them is your wife but the other is free to marry me since they can't both be married to you Dave. Sorry, I think I went off on a tangent there. No one tell Dave my plan.
@@TohaBgood2 JR Central don't care about the cost issue as the company earns $5B income every year and tends increasing.
The real issue is Shizouka governor is a stupid leftist, most citizens and neighbouring prefetures are criticize him.
Bright line sucks and ther soud be forlida HSR bild
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Awesome!