I finally got around to watching more of Eden’s zero I really like the professor guy who was sent 50 years in the past due to a space dragon. Really good show.
Well since its been confirmed that Ziggy is Shiki, I only have two theories. 1. Mother is the future version of Rebecca. Rebecca becomes stronger in the future and Shiki and Rebecca fall in love, which leads to the 'big bang' creating the universe, now Ziggy is simply trying to return to his love. 2. We see in the future that both shikki and rebecca are the two survivors in the future. Something terrible happened and now Ziggy went back in time to stop this incident from happening, or simply stop another version of himself become evil. No matter Eden zero is the most under rated manga series of all time.
Ziggy is actually shiki from 20.000 years in the future, he was shiki who decided to try and stop the anti matter bomb, he barely survived and got turned into a robot because his human body was too damaged, and rebecca died
Well according to Volume 20 Afterword The time skip was planned ahead and the series is already in its 2nd half but Hiro doesn’t know how long it will go on for (Mashima did say he wanted it to be longer than RAVE(almost 300 chapters) but shorter than FT(close to 600). So 170preskip chapters and 170~postskip chapters would fit that and it will probably be around 40-45 Volumes) And this arc will finally settle the Ziggy and Shiki situation there are "amazing" settings planned for mother and chronophage ziggys backstory was planned, he believes that some fans would have already guessed it but he wants to throw in a huge twist in there
Ha! I love that he pays such close attention to fan theories. But it was always pretty clear how planned this stuff was. It's what makes it so interesting to follow.
So that’s 340 chapters altogether. Mm I’m not sure I think the 2nd half will be longer than the 1st (like shippuden is to original naruto) because there’s more that we don’t know than what we already know imo. Also he said he don’t know how long it will be (Oda vibes, defo won’t be that long lol) but I defo think we will get at least 450 chapters. Could be wrong tho
To be fair words dont hold much value anymore with prime examples like mashles, MHA, and black clover. Then again, mashima is a veteran and often likes being a hard worker so I do hope
My theory is that Shiki was reborn from the original Adventurer that found Mother, its possible that in the past universe that Ziggy was the shiki that Failed to find mother and lost his memories
But there's many ways where we could say that Ziggy is not shiki If they are the same how Ziggy learn gravity by xenolith and not by another Ziggy, because xenolith meet Ziggy when he was in machine so how that could be shiki if he never was human and that would say too Ziggy doesn't have power before that and maybe doesn't searched Mother Xenolith say to shiki the power of gravity can attract someone from another universe so that could say Rebecca doesn't come from here that would explain too why she was alone when she was a child so if she doesn't come from the same universe or time line that shiki she can't Wich to restart the story for save everyone when she never meet them After Foresta Ziggy says shiki wouldn't existing, he says that like shiki is something who never existe and after mildian xiaomei say "after all for shiki, Mother is" and don't finish her sentence so maybe shiki is someone created by Mother, I don't see Ziggy created by Mother + during his fight against Nero, Ziggy says that was his birthday, with his old character I think shiki would be happy and scream that everywhere and make a party maybe after the war ect And Hiro Mashima insist in certain panel to draw an left human eyeball for Ziggy and shiki lost it against shura In conclusion I don't think Ziggy is another shiki from a different universe but I'm okay for discuss with everyone for these theory
There is a lot I like about this theory. But part of me is not completely convinced either. Granted a lot of that has to do with things we don't know. Such as why Ziggy is trying to make a machine world. Or why Ziggy revived the way he did. Plus now the Dark Stars & the big reveal from the last chapter opens up new questions. I do think Ziggy is some form of a fallen hero. Someone who had ideals that slowly got twisted over time. Cause he does give off vibes of a person who is well traveled and very knowledgeable. Like a veteran adventurer.
RUclips recommended this video after reading chapter 203, and now it's confirmed that ziggy is the shiki of the future if he had chosen to stay and try to defuse the bombs at the end of the Aoi Cosmos arc
Ziggy is shiki already confirmed, now the real question who brought Ziggy from future to past? Xenolith said that true gravity exceed concept like pull someone from future or pull out someone ether like what Ziggy did to Poseidon Nero. He pull out his wormhole power and put into him. It is possible shiki from other timeline is the real mastermind
Saw the afterword leaks regarding the upcoming Volume 20 of Edens Zero Apparently, Hiro knew about the theory of Ziggy being Shiki and he wants to add another twist. Also he confirmed that this is now the second half of the story.
ziggy stole neros ether gear, since shiki has the same power as ziggy he should at some point be able to do the same. hell then take rebeccas cat leaper either consciously - for example in an attempt to save her when shes about to die - or subconciously. he will fail to save rebecca and end up not being able to control and or overuse cat leaper, attracting chronophages wherever he goes which will "destroy the universe". just like rebeccas body cracked when she overused it the same will happen to shiki. probably a pay to use power, so he will sacrifice his body bit by bit and substitute the pieces with machine parts and the last time he uses it he will have to pay with his memories or his soul and completely turn into a robot.
If it happens that Ziggy is not the final villain, then it’s safe to assume that he always went missing on different past timelines/worlds everytime Shiki fails to recreate/overwrite his past. (He mentioned world. 31 started) Ziggy(future Shiki has other enemy or he already found and casted a wish to Mother before technically he can’t wish to mother anymore) That’s why he’s trying to manipulate his past self (MC Shiki) to find Mother for the first time and to steal Shiki’s wish. He wants to rewrite his future 20,000 years later trying to revive Rebecca and the others.
The OG Ziggy were always Inactive and I think everytime Shiki 31 made something against what Ziggy(Shiki) planned/or og what happened in the past then he goes to leap into other universes again. (It’s either he stole Rebecca’s Ether in the future since she’s already dead or he got other means of time travelling like Harnessing Chronophage power using future tech) The fact that he knew about Cat Leaper then he does really have means regarding time travelling or crossing universes.
Since he’s Ziggy’s the only human alive in the future. (Shown on the several flashbacks when androids found two bodies with Rebecca’s B-cuber keychain floats)
Zig-ki went to the past and I think he tricked Master Xenolith to teach him how to possess an android’s body. Therefore to conclude the OG Ziggy can be always dead since World 1. Before Future Zig-Ki went to the past to possess Ziggy’s body there (which is main Shiki’s present timeline).
I'd really prefer Ziggy being his own character opposed to another Shiki/Dark Shiki if I'm being honest. I've heard many variations of this 'Ziggy Is Shiki' theory and i still don't like it lmao.
Maybe Ziggy is already evil from the start, and when he manage to revived his old memories (because of mother) So that's why he's evil or something like that??? (this is my theory) (I'm super bad at English aaaa but I tried :"3) The story is getting deeper and deeper so that's why I'm so obsessed with this anime now
What's your theory on Ziggy? Which of the popular theories do you find most persuasive?
Comfirmed
Congratulations.
@@masterprick1 Thank you thank you
future shiki from a alternate universe
Well it’s confirmed now
I finally got around to watching more of Eden’s zero I really like the professor guy who was sent 50 years in the past due to a space dragon. Really good show.
Awesome! Lmk how you enjoy the rest of the anime. And yes! Weisz is such a cool character.
Well since its been confirmed that Ziggy is Shiki, I only have two theories. 1. Mother is the future version of Rebecca. Rebecca becomes stronger in the future and Shiki and Rebecca fall in love, which leads to the 'big bang' creating the universe, now Ziggy is simply trying to return to his love. 2. We see in the future that both shikki and rebecca are the two survivors in the future. Something terrible happened and now Ziggy went back in time to stop this incident from happening, or simply stop another version of himself become evil. No matter Eden zero is the most under rated manga series of all time.
wow, nailed it i guess
this series is fucking fire
Ziggy is actually shiki from 20.000 years in the future, he was shiki who decided to try and stop the anti matter bomb, he barely survived and got turned into a robot because his human body was too damaged, and rebecca died
Bruh...bruh...this video was straight facts. XD
Well according to Volume 20 Afterword
The time skip was planned ahead and the series is already in its 2nd half but Hiro doesn’t know how long it will go on for
(Mashima did say he wanted it to be longer than RAVE(almost 300 chapters) but shorter than FT(close to 600).
So 170preskip chapters and 170~postskip chapters would fit that and it will probably be around 40-45 Volumes)
And this arc will finally settle the Ziggy and Shiki situation
there are "amazing" settings planned for mother and chronophage
ziggys backstory was planned, he believes that some fans would have already guessed it but he wants to throw in a huge twist in there
Ha! I love that he pays such close attention to fan theories. But it was always pretty clear how planned this stuff was. It's what makes it so interesting to follow.
So that’s 340 chapters altogether. Mm I’m not sure I think the 2nd half will be longer than the 1st (like shippuden is to original naruto) because there’s more that we don’t know than what we already know imo. Also he said he don’t know how long it will be (Oda vibes, defo won’t be that long lol) but I defo think we will get at least 450 chapters. Could be wrong tho
To be fair words dont hold much value anymore with prime examples like mashles, MHA, and black clover.
Then again, mashima is a veteran and often likes being a hard worker so I do hope
My theory is that Shiki was reborn from the original Adventurer that found Mother, its possible that in the past universe that Ziggy was the shiki that Failed to find mother and lost his memories
Well, it's finally been confimed.
But there's many ways where we could say that Ziggy is not shiki
If they are the same how Ziggy learn gravity by xenolith and not by another Ziggy, because xenolith meet Ziggy when he was in machine so how that could be shiki if he never was human and that would say too Ziggy doesn't have power before that and maybe doesn't searched Mother
Xenolith say to shiki the power of gravity can attract someone from another universe so that could say Rebecca doesn't come from here that would explain too why she was alone when she was a child so if she doesn't come from the same universe or time line that shiki she can't Wich to restart the story for save everyone when she never meet them
After Foresta Ziggy says shiki wouldn't existing, he says that like shiki is something who never existe and after mildian xiaomei say "after all for shiki, Mother is" and don't finish her sentence so maybe shiki is someone created by Mother, I don't see Ziggy created by Mother + during his fight against Nero, Ziggy says that was his birthday, with his old character I think shiki would be happy and scream that everywhere and make a party maybe after the war ect
And Hiro Mashima insist in certain panel to draw an left human eyeball for Ziggy and shiki lost it against shura
In conclusion I don't think Ziggy is another shiki from a different universe but I'm okay for discuss with everyone for these theory
There is a lot I like about this theory. But part of me is not completely convinced either. Granted a lot of that has to do with things we don't know. Such as why Ziggy is trying to make a machine world. Or why Ziggy revived the way he did. Plus now the Dark Stars & the big reveal from the last chapter opens up new questions. I do think Ziggy is some form of a fallen hero. Someone who had ideals that slowly got twisted over time. Cause he does give off vibes of a person who is well traveled and very knowledgeable. Like a veteran adventurer.
RUclips recommended this video after reading chapter 203, and now it's confirmed that ziggy is the shiki of the future if he had chosen to stay and try to defuse the bombs at the end of the Aoi Cosmos arc
when your theory makes sense with chapter 203
Ziggy is shiki already confirmed, now the real question who brought Ziggy from future to past? Xenolith said that true gravity exceed concept like pull someone from future or pull out someone ether like what Ziggy did to Poseidon Nero. He pull out his wormhole power and put into him. It is possible shiki from other timeline is the real mastermind
Saw the afterword leaks regarding the upcoming Volume 20 of Edens Zero
Apparently, Hiro knew about the theory of Ziggy being Shiki and he wants to add another twist. Also he confirmed that this is now the second half of the story.
I will definitely have to look into this. Appreciate you spacing it out so people wouldn't be spoiled.
I’m here to confirm you are right😂
I have like 2 theories I’d like to discuss ESPECIALLY after reading the most recent chapter
Hello there here after chapter 202🤣🤣🤣🤣
Quality video
ziggy stole neros ether gear, since shiki has the same power as ziggy he should at some point be able to do the same. hell then take rebeccas cat leaper either consciously - for example in an attempt to save her when shes about to die - or subconciously. he will fail to save rebecca and end up not being able to control and or overuse cat leaper, attracting chronophages wherever he goes which will "destroy the universe". just like rebeccas body cracked when she overused it the same will happen to shiki. probably a pay to use power, so he will sacrifice his body bit by bit and substitute the pieces with machine parts and the last time he uses it he will have to pay with his memories or his soul and completely turn into a robot.
I’m a little surprised you didn’t bring up the part where Xenolith mentioned How it was almost like ziggy already knew how control gravity ether.
If I’m being honest I completely forgot that quote, but yeah it’s definitely a big hint. Undeniable at this point.
If it happens that Ziggy is not the final villain, then it’s safe to assume that he always went missing on different past timelines/worlds everytime Shiki fails to recreate/overwrite his past. (He mentioned world. 31 started)
Ziggy(future Shiki has other enemy or he already found and casted a wish to Mother before technically he can’t wish to mother anymore)
That’s why he’s trying to manipulate his past self (MC Shiki) to find Mother for the first time and to steal Shiki’s wish.
He wants to rewrite his future 20,000 years later trying to revive Rebecca and the others.
The OG Ziggy were always Inactive and I think everytime Shiki 31 made something against what Ziggy(Shiki) planned/or og what happened in the past then he goes to leap into other universes again. (It’s either he stole Rebecca’s Ether in the future since she’s already dead or he got other means of time travelling like Harnessing Chronophage power using future tech)
The fact that he knew about Cat Leaper then he does really have means regarding time travelling or crossing universes.
Since he’s Ziggy’s the only human alive in the future. (Shown on the several flashbacks when androids found two bodies with Rebecca’s B-cuber keychain floats)
Zig-ki went to the past and I think he tricked Master Xenolith to teach him how to possess an android’s body.
Therefore to conclude the OG Ziggy can be always dead since World 1. Before Future Zig-Ki went to the past to possess Ziggy’s body there (which is main Shiki’s present timeline).
For moment i thought thT was franky
Kinda reminds me of the story of yu gi oh arc-V🤔
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I'd really prefer Ziggy being his own character opposed to another Shiki/Dark Shiki if I'm being honest. I've heard many variations of this 'Ziggy Is Shiki' theory and i still don't like it lmao.
Interesting 🤔
Maybe Ziggy is already evil from the start, and when he manage to revived his old memories (because of mother)
So that's why he's evil or something like that??? (this is my theory)
(I'm super bad at English aaaa but I tried :"3)
The story is getting deeper and deeper so that's why I'm so obsessed with this anime now
No worries! If anything your English is better than mine haha. But yes! This is kind of what I’m expecting at this point.
WOW
Correction : it’s Shiki from the future.
You know what though? I’ll take the partial credit.
Of course. I take it you read the last chapter?
When I made it to the plot twist, I was angry.
@@louis-marcelotsamamba6688 Yep!
@@louis-marcelotsamamba6688 Why?
Not a past but a future alternate Shiki
If Ziggy is shiki then why did he changed his appearance and became a bot
It can make sense. Xenolith (the gravity ether mentor) was once human then probably transferred his soul or ether to a bot when he died
Zigei is sigei