Thank you. You summed my own feelings nicely. It'll sell well for folks that want a street scrambler with a bit more of everything without losing what made the street scrambler so enjoyable. I tested a 1200x after riding my current '22 1200 speed twin to the dealer through the cambridgeshire fenland A & B roads and came to the conclusion that the 1200x is a damned good fit for british roads as they are today and definately better than my beloved ST12 on the types of road I haunt most of the time. I often wonder if there are still bits of the UK with roads that make sense for hypernakeds and sportsbikes. The 1200x suspension seems 'bob on' for my 12.5 stone [175lb, 79Kg] ..plush but controlled so I can live without the gold hangers extra adjustments. A bit of farm twin track at speeds that won't draw negative attention will be the limit of my offroad aspirations so losing ground clearance is no biggie. The IMU cornering ABS & TC is a nice road orientated upgrade too [over the outgoing slightly more dirt focused XC] so I am expecting that with the addition of a legend gear pannier, it will make a decent go of two up 'day rides' with my missus. Mines on order...roll on balmy summer picnics 😊
A bought a Street Scrambler in 2020 and absolutely loved it, so much so that when it was stolen and written off I bought another without hesitation. I often thought though that a "perfect" SS for me would be a 1200 version. Then the 1200 X came along so I bought one and I'm dead chuffed with it. The XE/XC bikes were always a bit of a conundrum to me, high spec componentry with supposedly off road focus yet they're way too heavy for anything I would call off road work. I dunno, maybe I'm just spoilt with owning an Enduro bike so why would I buy a bike, setup for off road use, purely for on road riding? As far as the 1200 X goes, less braking and suspension bling maybe but they're more than up to the job. Seat height was never an issue for me, it's the look of the X that first drew my attention and so far I'm lovin' it!😃👍
I have the 2022 Triumph Scrambler 1200XC. The engine has a knocking noise when I start it, then it smooths out. Seems to be a fairly common problem with the 900cc and the 1200cc engines. Has your engine developed a knocking noise? If yes, what was it?
@ I found the adjustable balancer shafts can "chatter" a bit when the engine is cold if they are not adjusted correctly. My first 900 SS hardly did it at all, my second SS was quite noisy and my 1200 occasionally does it but only slightly. In all three cases it disappeared when warm. At first, the noise concerned me but when I found out what it was I was OK with it. The adjustment on the balancer shafts doesn't alter the balance but just the meshing of the drive gears. Set too tight, they whine and will wear excessively and set too slack they can clatter. If it's not too loud and disappears when warm I wouldn't worry about it. I also found the hydraulic cam chain tensioner can sometimes cause a slight "tick" on cold start but only for a few seconds or so as the oil pressure builds although I haven't heard this on my 1200.
First when I entered in a local motorcycle shop, I saw this bike, and thought it was the XE (not knowing that there is an X and the XE with the upgraded suspensions). When I sat on it for the first time I was like "Waaaait a minute. This isn't as tall as I thought." Then I found out that there is another model with a seat height of 870 mm (holy moly). This model will definitely sell better than the XE. Heck, even I want one now.
Agree. I'm surprised Triumph don't do a version in the same vein as the original R80gs. The bike that arguably started it all. Small screen, panniers. Go. Definitely needs a longer front mudguard. That radiator was covered in a muddy stripe! But yes, it's a lovely bike. Ride safe 👍
It's good they've gone back to normal keys, but the X should have kept the Brembos, after all Marzocchi supply the suspension for the Tiger 900 and that has Stylema brakes.
I remember that I wanted to buy a 900 Scrambler, but never liked that it only had 5 speed amd the brakes were very subpar. Then came the XC and XE and they were way too much. I am short and not the most off road person, I just liked the Scrambler but wanted some more. But no that much more. This is great, wish the front brakes were a bit better but they I am sure they are more than ok. Really thinking if moving to one tbh.
I have the 2022 Triumph Scrambler 1200XC. The engine has a knocking noise when I start it, then it smooths out. Has your engine developed a knocking noise? If yes, what was it?
I m torn between getting a bonneville T120 or a scrambler 1200x. I love the size of 1200x tank. What about the bonneville t120 tank? I m a big guy. Would I look like a circus clown if I pick the t120? I m also afraid that the exhaust of the 1200x would be too hot for me long term. BTW I live in Malaysia, a hot country. Pls advice. I do love the 1200x. The t120 would be my second choice. Thks.
@@mancavemoto thank you. I’m thinking of trading my old XJR 1300 in for a Triumph and was not sure about the 1200 scrambler because I’d watched a video saying the exhaust was to hot so I was looking at the street twin.
Test rode one last week, couldn’t believe how much fun it was to ride, it looks more in proportion than the XE and XC to my eyes, the suspension is fine, the clock is a bit crap but not as ugly as the XE/XC version, why the heck Triumph can’t just put twin clocks on it I do not know???, anyway, buying one tomorrow 🙂
New Stealth Edition colours are great candy 🍬 colour fading to black very nice & for 1yr only.Not your normal Ltd edition colour schemes but candy 🍬 colour so costs extra cause candy is expensive to make.
@ruahinesrider I can't see that the stealth paint is available on the 1200x. Black is standard or Ash grey and carnival red, which are +£200. I personally think the grey is dull.
I recently tested the X, but found the downgraded suspension was quite jarring on our potholed roads. I was also not impressed with the instrument panel that you liked and the colours available are boring to say the least. I didn't want the XE as it is too tall and I'll never go off-road, so I went for a low mileage second-hand XC instead. All of your points are valid, but so are all of mine; it would be boring if we all liked the same things!
@@mancavemoto Yeah, I've got lots of highway to do before I get to the good stuff. I simply don't understand deleting it, and not even making it an option. I was interested in it because of the lower seat and I don't need the high-speed suspension. But not making cruise control available on the exact same motor just makes me look harder at the Scrambler 900. All the best!
@@malikknows3510 I know what you're saying, it would have cost virtually nothing to include it, plus the 1200X is supposed to be more road focused so in that respect would benefit more from CC than the XE. It's not even an option so that doesn't make sense either but I think Triumph have excluded it to widen the gap between the X and the XE. I've never had CC on a bike so personally it doesn't bother me, it's certainly not a deal breaker but I was just wondering why the lack of it would make you look closer at a 900?
Nice review. I had an 1200XE that I sold within a few months, it was one of the first to arrive in Canada in the first year of production and based on the comments on my review, some agreed and some didn't (some were saying it was the BEST suspensions they've ever had and that it soaked up everything like it was nothing...) so I'm still not sure if it was a batch of XE that were like that (though when I called Triumphs' customer service for a BO part I asked out of curiosity if they had received complaints about the Xe's suspension and he was very transparent that they received quite a few calls about it), but in the over 150 bikes I tried, it had the worse suspensions I've ever experienced. The ride from the dealer to my place was about an hour, and when I arrived I had back pain...(which I've never had before or since). I brought it to 2 suspension shops, had them resprung and revalved, but still wasn't by any means a comfortable ride on rough pavement. Many people are impressed by the Ohlins sticker, but the fact that this bike doesn't have Ohlins shocks would actually be a positive for me and would be curious to try this new X version. I had two 900 Scramblers that were 100 times more comfortable than the XE, I could ride 800km on them in a day, and ride the next day. On the XE 400km was a heck of a ride and the next day I wouldn't have gone on another 400km trip. Always been a fan of Triumph bikes, but the day I sold my XE was one of the best days of my life hehe I would buy another Scrambler, but I would never in my life do it again without trying it first (and in my area, you're lucky if dealers have 1 demo of any of their bikes) and since Covid it's been even worse, since they didn't have enough stock for the demand, they had even less incentive to let you try before you buy.
Agree, it’s the only thing I dislike about mine, soon to be fixed, I just got a 2nd hand XC tank and it’s off to the painters to get the Steve McQueen paint job, basically metallic British racing green, brushed ally knee panels with a gold pinstripe and the triumph script logo in gold.
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Thank you. You summed my own feelings nicely. It'll sell well for folks that want a street scrambler with a bit more of everything without losing what made the street scrambler so enjoyable.
I tested a 1200x after riding my current '22 1200 speed twin to the dealer through the cambridgeshire fenland A & B roads and came to the conclusion that the 1200x is a damned good fit for british roads as they are today and definately better than my beloved ST12 on the types of road I haunt most of the time.
I often wonder if there are still bits of the UK with roads that make sense for hypernakeds and sportsbikes.
The 1200x suspension seems 'bob on' for my 12.5 stone [175lb, 79Kg] ..plush but controlled so I can live without the gold hangers extra adjustments.
A bit of farm twin track at speeds that won't draw negative attention will be the limit of my offroad aspirations so losing ground clearance is no biggie.
The IMU cornering ABS & TC is a nice road orientated upgrade too [over the outgoing slightly more dirt focused XC] so I am expecting that with the addition of a legend gear pannier, it will make a decent go of two up 'day rides' with my missus. Mines on order...roll on balmy summer picnics 😊
I agree with you. The X is the best one. Just needs a low pipe for my taste. I like the dash. Great engine, I imagine. Good video, Tony. Nick
Perfect motorcycle! Great option! I just think that cruise control should be available as an accessory, to be installed in the After Market.
A bought a Street Scrambler in 2020 and absolutely loved it, so much so that when it was stolen and written off I bought another without hesitation. I often thought though that a "perfect" SS for me would be a 1200 version. Then the 1200 X came along so I bought one and I'm dead chuffed with it. The XE/XC bikes were always a bit of a conundrum to me, high spec componentry with supposedly off road focus yet they're way too heavy for anything I would call off road work. I dunno, maybe I'm just spoilt with owning an Enduro bike so why would I buy a bike, setup for off road use, purely for on road riding? As far as the 1200 X goes, less braking and suspension bling maybe but they're more than up to the job. Seat height was never an issue for me, it's the look of the X that first drew my attention and so far I'm lovin' it!😃👍
I have the 2022 Triumph Scrambler 1200XC.
The engine has a knocking noise when I start it, then it smooths out. Seems to be a fairly common problem with the 900cc and the 1200cc engines.
Has your engine developed a knocking noise?
If yes, what was it?
@ I found the adjustable balancer shafts can "chatter" a bit when the engine is cold if they are not adjusted correctly. My first 900 SS hardly did it at all, my second SS was quite noisy and my 1200 occasionally does it but only slightly. In all three cases it disappeared when warm. At first, the noise concerned me but when I found out what it was I was OK with it. The adjustment on the balancer shafts doesn't alter the balance but just the meshing of the drive gears. Set too tight, they whine and will wear excessively and set too slack they can clatter. If it's not too loud and disappears when warm I wouldn't worry about it.
I also found the hydraulic cam chain tensioner can sometimes cause a slight "tick" on cold start but only for a few seconds or so as the oil pressure builds although I haven't heard this on my 1200.
@ : thank you, very much appreciated!!!
First when I entered in a local motorcycle shop, I saw this bike, and thought it was the XE (not knowing that there is an X and the XE with the upgraded suspensions). When I sat on it for the first time I was like "Waaaait a minute. This isn't as tall as I thought." Then I found out that there is another model with a seat height of 870 mm (holy moly). This model will definitely sell better than the XE. Heck, even I want one now.
Great video Tony. Sat on one at MCL and my 5,7" frame could easily own one in contrast to my friend's XE which makes me feel like a child on it.
Nice, I think it will bring a lot more people to the model.
Thanks Tony for your honest review as this is a lid currently on my radar.
no problem
Always great videos and content. Keep up the good work
Cheers John
@@mancavemoto All your videos about your 900 speed twin, Encouraged me to buy a 900 scrambler and it always makes me smile riding it
Agree.
I'm surprised Triumph don't do a version in the same vein as the original R80gs. The bike that arguably started it all.
Small screen, panniers. Go.
Definitely needs a longer front mudguard. That radiator was covered in a muddy stripe!
But yes, it's a lovely bike.
Ride safe 👍
That would be cool
Also really like it. And for what a modern Scrambler really is.
Nice one Tony. You make a good case for this new tweaked model. You and your beard are maturing well like a fine bottle of claret.
Cheers Jamie, it’s all I want or need. Maturing is a very polite way to describe it. How’s the new bike
It's good they've gone back to normal keys, but the X should have kept the Brembos, after all Marzocchi supply the suspension for the Tiger 900 and that has Stylema brakes.
These brakes are fine, they do the job well.
Love these
I like the scambler 900 as well but i feel that the tank is also too small
I remember that I wanted to buy a 900 Scrambler, but never liked that it only had 5 speed amd the brakes were very subpar. Then came the XC and XE and they were way too much. I am short and not the most off road person, I just liked the Scrambler but wanted some more. But no that much more. This is great, wish the front brakes were a bit better but they I am sure they are more than ok. Really thinking if moving to one tbh.
Defo the best sounding bike
The 900 sounds better imo.
I have the 2022 Triumph Scrambler 1200XC.
The engine has a knocking noise when I start it, then it smooths out.
Has your engine developed a knocking noise?
If yes, what was it?
This was a press bike, I don't own it
I m torn between getting a bonneville T120 or a scrambler 1200x. I love the size of 1200x tank. What about the bonneville t120 tank? I m a big guy. Would I look like a circus clown if I pick the t120? I m also afraid that the exhaust of the 1200x would be too hot for me long term. BTW I live in Malaysia, a hot country. Pls advice. I do love the 1200x. The t120 would be my second choice. Thks.
What are the main differences between this one and T120, apart from the suspension, in terms of engine and torque and bhp?
The X has a different tune, with a little more power and torque than the T120
So how did you find the heat off the exhaust against your leg ??
No issue at all
@@mancavemoto thank you. I’m thinking of trading my old XJR 1300 in for a Triumph and was not sure about the 1200 scrambler because I’d watched a video saying the exhaust was to hot so I was looking at the street twin.
Often, "back to basics" and "entry-level" turn out to be delightful.
Life is complicated enough, so keep it simple and less-is-more.
I’m considering the X for the same reasons. I never had a scrambler and I’m worried about the heat on the right leg. How much does that bother you?
It didn’t bother me at all
Test rode one last week, couldn’t believe how much fun it was to ride, it looks more in proportion than the XE and XC to my eyes, the suspension is fine, the clock is a bit crap but not as ugly as the XE/XC version, why the heck Triumph can’t just put twin clocks on it I do not know???, anyway, buying one tomorrow 🙂
Purchase made, delivery will be 09/07, life is good 😂
I’ve had 72 bikes over the years, this 1200 X is by far my favourite bike of all of them, anyone want to buy a Thruxton 1200? 🙂😂
If only the colours Triumph did this year, had been a bit more inspiring. No green is a miss in my opinion
Hi Sam, hope you’re well?
New Stealth Edition colours are great candy 🍬 colour fading to black very nice & for 1yr only.Not your normal Ltd edition colour schemes but candy 🍬 colour so costs extra cause candy is expensive to make.
@ruahinesrider I can't see that the stealth paint is available on the 1200x. Black is standard or Ash grey and carnival red, which are +£200. I personally think the grey is dull.
I have a 1200xc and considering a change to a ktm 890 adventure to do more distance on, as you’ve ridden both what are your thoughts?
I really like the 890 adventure, and with the screen and extra cover the tank offers it offers more comfort on longer rides
I recently tested the X, but found the downgraded suspension was quite jarring on our potholed roads. I was also not impressed with the instrument panel that you liked and the colours available are boring to say the least. I didn't want the XE as it is too tall and I'll never go off-road, so I went for a low mileage second-hand XC instead. All of your points are valid, but so are all of mine; it would be boring if we all liked the same things!
Exactly, enjoy the XC!
I had a 2014 900 scrambler, foumd it fine 2 up. What would this be like in your opinion
Much the same, if not better given it’s the torque?
Thanks, good real world review @mancavemoto
It got my attention, too, until I found out they deleted the cruise control. WOW, that just doesn’t make sense to me. Nice video
Cheers, a fair point and it seems and oversight although for me, lack of CC on this sort of bike for how i'd use it isn't a problem
@@mancavemoto Yeah, I've got lots of highway to do before I get to the good stuff. I simply don't understand deleting it, and not even making it an option. I was interested in it because of the lower seat and I don't need the high-speed suspension. But not making cruise control available on the exact same motor just makes me look harder at the Scrambler 900. All the best!
@@malikknows3510The 900 doesn't have CC either.
@@phils2180 Yes, but the XE does and its got the same motor.
@@malikknows3510 I know what you're saying, it would have cost virtually nothing to include it, plus the 1200X is supposed to be more road focused so in that respect would benefit more from CC than the XE. It's not even an option so that doesn't make sense either but I think Triumph have excluded it to widen the gap between the X and the XE. I've never had CC on a bike so personally it doesn't bother me, it's certainly not a deal breaker but I was just wondering why the lack of it would make you look closer at a 900?
That thin seat must hurt
No, it’s pretty good actually
The XE looks fantastic but the X looks much more usable for most of us. Who's that young fella stood behind your Street Twin? !!!
Haha, yes. No idea who that guy is!
I agree. So much so, I might buy one........probably wont tho cos im a lazy sh*t and giving up the AT will be punishing....
Nice review. I had an 1200XE that I sold within a few months, it was one of the first to arrive in Canada in the first year of production and based on the comments on my review, some agreed and some didn't (some were saying it was the BEST suspensions they've ever had and that it soaked up everything like it was nothing...) so I'm still not sure if it was a batch of XE that were like that (though when I called Triumphs' customer service for a BO part I asked out of curiosity if they had received complaints about the Xe's suspension and he was very transparent that they received quite a few calls about it), but in the over 150 bikes I tried, it had the worse suspensions I've ever experienced.
The ride from the dealer to my place was about an hour, and when I arrived I had back pain...(which I've never had before or since). I brought it to 2 suspension shops, had them resprung and revalved, but still wasn't by any means a comfortable ride on rough pavement. Many people are impressed by the Ohlins sticker, but the fact that this bike doesn't have Ohlins shocks would actually be a positive for me and would be curious to try this new X version. I had two 900 Scramblers that were 100 times more comfortable than the XE, I could ride 800km on them in a day, and ride the next day. On the XE 400km was a heck of a ride and the next day I wouldn't have gone on another 400km trip. Always been a fan of Triumph bikes, but the day I sold my XE was one of the best days of my life hehe I would buy another Scrambler, but I would never in my life do it again without trying it first (and in my area, you're lucky if dealers have 1 demo of any of their bikes) and since Covid it's been even worse, since they didn't have enough stock for the demand, they had even less incentive to let you try before you buy.
If only funds would stretch
IKR?!
Tad too high seat for me …
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They need to get rid of the massive logo look as I think it looks Cheesy as!
Indeed, especially since Triumph makes such a great Paintjob on their bikes, and then in this case they kind of destroy it with this humongous label
Exactly! I'd rather have a plain tank over the half-assed stencil thing. The black Scramblers with the modest Triumph logo are much nicer.
So true.
Agree, it’s the only thing I dislike about mine, soon to be fixed, I just got a 2nd hand XC tank and it’s off to the painters to get the Steve McQueen paint job, basically metallic British racing green, brushed ally knee panels with a gold pinstripe and the triumph script logo in gold.
All style, no substance