I nearly drowned it: 2025 Triumph Scrambler 1200X tested off road and on road
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- The Triumph Scrambler 1200X is the more affordable, road-biased and lower sister of the Scrambler 1200XE. This means it's not really the one you'd choose for a storm-lashed spot of green-laning, but I forgot about that bit. Join me for an in-depth review of the 2025 Triumph Scrambler 1200's features, including a look at its ability to wobble down a greenlane with a novice onboard, as well as a bit of a soggy road ride. And yes, that puddle is much deeper than it looks...
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I have learned to listen carefully to your reviews as you will often “imbed” vital information while ridding, like the brakes for instance….“you can’t two finger it like your secondary school disco girlfriend…” had me nearly blowing my morning coffee ☕️ out my nose 😆👍!
Hahaha thank you (and sorry)
@@timrodierides I literally just hit the subscribe button because of that one quote 🤣
Got a 19 XE. It is a fabulous all rounder, and doesn't look like a bug! I love it.
Hey Squelchy Boots - that was super Tim. I've done virtually no off road so that was mildly terrifying 🤣
That puddle was great, keep it up.
I’ve just got the X. Been on various adventure bikes for years including 1290SAS and lastly a GSA. The Scrambler is such a breath of fresh air. So much fun and no I don’t miss a quick shifter or hill hold or even cruise control. I opted for the X rather then the XE mainly for seat height and also because I feel the XE looks too lanky and odd and I loath gold cycle parts! Wish I he’d brembos but you know what the brakes work fine. As for the dash well it tells me what I need to know. I’ve added a Unit garage screen so this is now my adventure travel bike
Great review Tim. Particularly liked the deep puddle adventure; I could feel my boots filling too😄. I note your comments about “Lower quality components “ compared to the XE. I recall my engineering design lecturer explaining to us how he defines quality as “fit for purpose”. 30+ years later I still can’t come up with anything better. So, if the purpose of the X is different (less) as per the design brief compared to the XE, then it’s difficult to say it’s lower quality. I can’t think of a bike journalist who doesn’t say the same thing on reviews for different bikes …. And I don’t have a scrambler. And and I too think Triumph are making a hash of the instrument choices. Cheers
Great video and great presentation. Not a personal criticism because everybody says the same thing on RUclips. "The XC is THE road bike". LOL! Is that because it ONLY has 200 mm of suspension instead of 250mm? Look, every single world record was first broken on bikes on which these are very loosely styled, but with 19inch front wheels and 130mm of suspension. Steve McQueen would have given his right bollock for 200mm, Thierry Sabine whoo invented the Paris Dakar would have killed his mother for it, so please get things back into perspective please.! LOL! BTW at 22 I rode the entire way around Australia (23,000 km) on a Kawasaki 900 road bike with 130mm, and that was 60 percent on dirt, and then around Africa and many other places so please....a case in point are the excellent Ducati Multistrada Enduro and the Moto Guzzi V85TT, both extremely competent adventure bikes, both of which only have 170mm of suspension travel.
Yeah, people just say it's the road bike because that's how Triumph position it with the XE living alongisde it! I take your points!
I know that puddle too. Brave man. Last time I was there the bloke I was with hit a submerged rock and whisky throttled his KTM 990 adventure into the scenery (no damage luckliy) so it can bite. In fact I usually avoid that section when it's deep so I don't have to ride with 'squelchy boots' 😀
I had a Scrambler XE and sort of regret selling it but the suspension really worked better at speeds I wasn't comfortable with off-road plus the hot exhaust cat (which I think is moved on the newer version. Now I have an enduro for green lanes and a big ADV for the road.
I think the X has too many compromises for the price - brakes and dash mainly - so if was buying again I'd still go for the XE. The previously owned one was my only bike at the time and it covers a lot of bases.
Respect. I know that green lane and that puddle in particular. I do it on my KTM 250 EXC (a proper enduro) and am well impressed you got through it unscathed. Maybe see you down the lanes on a Harley Davidson Pan America next time I am out. Now that would make an interesting video.
Haha, thank you! I can only own one bike at a time sadly, but I think something with knobblies might be on the channel in 2025
Secondary school disco girlfriend 😂 very good mate. Do like the scrambler looks I must say
Watched going through the deep puddle twice 😂😂😂
That green lane….Funniest thing I’ve seen this year!
Give it a few days haha
You did well Roadie, those tyres on a cafe racer in that muck I didn't give it much hope.
I was surprised!
i had the XE when it first came out …i really really regret selling it . two issues i had was the comfort seat being very uncomfortable and the heat from the exhaust being too much during the summer and slow moving town traffic ..but that engine is superb
I decatted my XC and got a custom seat. heat is gone. The low seat is actually the most comfortable factory option
@@logangodofcandyi had the seat re done at hurleys custom seats , and put the zard low exhaust on …😂
Thanks Triumph - the Air Filter ist under the Seat - TOP
Triumph's are hardy bikes, I had mine out today in -8 C and flurries. Ran great and the heated grips work.
Love your reviews... 👍
Thanks Graham!
Ha ha that was pretty funny, love the big puddle crossing thought for sure you were going for a big dipper 😂 XE for me, no brainer at £1400 extra unless you're a shortarse.... Just wish it had a physically larger headlight and traditional twin clocks (with the modern electronics) for extra retro appearance. On my radar .... 🙂
I had a Street Scrambler 900 for three years and loved that but wanted something else. The Scrambler 1200X was on my list because I'm way too short for XE, but I bought a DCT NT 100 and have been more than happy with that. I think I'd probably buy the Speed Twin 1200 over the Scramber 1200X, because it's probably a better motorcycle for the riding I do most often.
Impressive .......going by those tyres .....I assume you were sat right back on the seat for THE PUDDLE tho?....last time I tried that sort of thing with block patterns.on a little xt125r ..half the weight .....front washed right out ......nice camber hidden away 🫣...respect! you gave it a .nice little muddy plug
Not really, I was just plonked on the seat like a sack of spuds worrying about stalling...
Wow....that Scrambler pretty sure footed then.....NICE BIKE ...👍....nice vid to show what it can do !
They should put the cruise control on the X, I would buy it! Can't ride the XE because I'm vertically challenged.
Wouldn't trade my XE for this and wouldn't have traded my old 900 Scrambler either. That horrible dash, the suspension and definitely the Nissins would be enough to put me off. Hats off for washing your boots though!
Breathing as heavy as a 70s light entertainer in a police interview
@@allezneg8545 hahahaha
And there was me thinking that only Freddie Dobbs was daft enough to attempt to drown a Triumph 🤣😂
Weird how the XC lettering (appreciate it’s now defunct) - often shorthand for “Cross Country”, was the road biased version. 😵💫
Yes, it's actually good for off road that isn't crazy, so you can take any road and anything that looks like it might be some kind of road or foot path.
The XE is the wannabe Enduro lol
Why was the orange warning light flashing?
@@mrcintheuk4641 I had the rear ABS off
@@timrodierides 👍
You looks just like Steve McQueen 😮
H2ooooooh!
Happy New Year Tim, glad the millennium bug didn't affect too much. Oh and I hope your secondary school disco girlfriend isn't watching ;) I cant believe that puddle - if you'd tipped over you've ruined your camera as well 👍
Great content! just the bike is £2.5k overpriced in my opinion.
You should've done a Steve McQueen! 🤣
It's a lovely looking bike. I've never owned a Triumph, primarily to me not wanting to give my local main dealer the business (Central Bristol). I don't know if I expect too much from dealers or most of them really don't care 🤔 Weird they don't offer cruise as an option on the X, personally I wouldn't buy a bike without cruise these days. 👍 Also secondary school girlfriend at the disco 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You brave bastard, great.
0:08 Being British this one's made at Hinckley yes?
Not sure, my XE is made in Thailand.
Brave man 😂
Or foolish... haha
Plus no tankbag or decent panniers
Tim, the 1980s called and they want their Steel Twin-spar frame and twin rear shocks back! ;) :( I don't personally like the now "classic" look (round headlight, trying to make a new bike look old), but I understand the (marketing/sales) appeal. What I can't understand is why people accept in the 21st century, in a "premium" brand (and premium-ish price), such nasty and compromised 1960/70s tech as per above??? :( Imagine how much better it would be with a proper (torsionally rigid) ally frame/engine as a stressed member, with decent mono-shock suspension (not to mention how much lighter it would be!!). Seems like it could turn a good bike into a great one? (and for 12k, with the above "tech", it seems overpriced, no? ). 🤷♀ Great review however, keep up the good work :) Is cruise/heated grips, an optional extra at least?
Cruise isn't an option I don't think, heated grips are!
Thanks to your comment, I found out that a round headlamp is less efficient than an oblong one, so my f700GS, with LED bulbs, is more advanced than I imagined .
Great vid 👍. That dash is outclassed by cheap Chinese offerings and looks like it's off a child's big wheel. It brings down almost any bike they put it on.
Hey listening to your voice, I was thinking, who does it remind me of? Then it struck me...Alan Rickman.
Why were you going through the woods?i wasnt paying attention sorry.
Off-road, innit
@@timrodierides neither of you had the right boots on for those types of shenanigans!😃
For me the most disappointing thing about the 1200X is the non removable pillion peg attachments, they stick out like a sore thumb ,if you fall and accidentally hit one of them they bend easily inwards, the bike has a big chance that it will be rideable but if those are bend you permanently damaged the frame and it can be a write off for most insurance companies.
It's a road bike with a high level exhaust, but pleased a few puddles gave you the feeling that you "challenged" yourself.
Apologies for having fun Paul
Hi, i've got one. It's great. Kindly Fiete
I know I’m like a broken record, but I just can’t get turned on by triumphs, especially as they claim so much to be British, yet not a single model is made in Blighty. Even if they just did the flagship one in Blighty it would make so much difference…..and “designing it” in the UK is not enough to warrant the bottom half of the emblem. Every one of them, including the sporty ones, just seem somehow dull and uninspiring to ride too. That said, I do like the look of black one of these and the speed twin and the 1200RR …..so I should get my butt on one and try them…..innit!! 👍😃👍
I gave up on what actually constitutes Britishness in the mind of Brits a long time ago.
@@SoWereDoingWhatNowwell indeed, though I guess we could say in many ways it’s the UK’s multinational past that partly makes it great, at least not having been successfully invaded since 1066, invented the jet engine, the world being saved by Alan Turing, and the P51 only becoming great once it had a British engine……..but it’s amazing how many Brits don’t know that the “national” religion is Middle Eastern, the language a mix of French, German and Latin, the English saint a Syrian, the French defending our backs in order for the British army to escape almost intact at Dunkirk, and the polish pilots being a big part of what made the Battle of Britain a success.
Hinkley makes around 4500 bikes per year, and Triumph have committed to increasing production to 20,000 per year from Britain.
@@dreamcrusher112 Is this Scrambler 1200X made at Hinckley ?
@@dreamcrusher112yes, I’d read that too, but I’m wondering if the current bike market will put a blocker on it, as it seemed the potential U-turn on the trend in moving stuff away was the result of the post covid spike, and whether it’ll just remain R&D and a few specials.
It's only 1000 £ cheaper than the xe but is lacking all the high quality equipment. Should be another 2000 £ cheaper, this. But Triumph got really greedy there.
Little confused this is described as “more affordable” at £12k. Also for the money that dash is a bit of a joke (needs to be analog) and brakes don’t sound good enough for the money.
Well £12k is more affordable than £14k! For some...
@ trueeee
Same dash as Street Triple R works really well, super clear & easy to read. Depends if you want bling
@ appreciate its functionality, but given the styling personally I think the analog suits the aesthetic much better (less about bling). But I guess it’s all personal taste.
Great as ever. Looks a nice bike. What do you think it would be like for mile munching…… like mile munching your secondary school girlfriend 😂😂😂😂
I don’t think you’re allowed to say pansy anymore Tim…
I couldn't help thinking of Freddie Dobbs when you went through the water. It killed his Bonnie. Still, looks like you got away with it.
Why are triumph fitting these clocks their bloody awful ! The motor though is bloody fantastic ❤
Baffled by Triumph sticking that awful gauge cluster on their more expensive bikes. I'm REALLY keen on the new Tiger Sport 800, but coming from a BMW with a dash that tells you every single thing you could possibly want to know what's going on with your bike (as well as an excellent turn by turn navigation system), to that cheap looking thing would be a genuine unwanted compromise
I genuinely think if Triumph could give the screen an anti-glare finish like a BMW dash then it’d look a lot better. And disguise the fact it’s two screens better. I’m riding the Tiger Sport 800 at the end of Jan, can’t wait - it looks like a sensible road package!
I definitely drowned...
Lol the x is not an off-road bike. Great road bike, though
Turns out it's alright!
Scrambler or U-Boat?
Lol
Mad dogs and Englishmen?