If you want to clear an area around your mines easily and quickly then just make your ship into a bulldozer. Make a HUGE armor plate that is twice as wide and twice as tall as your ship and put a stabilizer behind it to reinforce it. Make sure it's a good 4 blocks thick. Then just RAM the asteroids with your ship and if you get some damage who cares because it's cheap to fix iron armor. The bigger and heavier your ship the better. Just move at a nice slow pace and you probably wont even take any damage. Sometimes you might need to add some extra energy generation and engines to help move the mass you have added but it's not big deal. Just add them anywhere on the outside of your ship other than the front bull dozer blade and cover it with some rocks or armor. When your done then just delete them off your ship and get your resources back. For FUN you can use this method to sling shot HUGE asteroids into nearby factories by other factions and enjoy the crumple effect. You take no faction hit from this since you don't own the asteroid you hurtled at them =P MWA HAHAHA!!!
Trying to decide if I want to get this game, so have been watching a few different channels videos. I appreciate your videos (especially for beginners) and the knowledge/experience you share - thanks for your efforts. Cool looking ship too! ;)
Thanks for this video - very informative. I've made it to the Barrier and want to get a good foothold before I cross, so I figured it was about time to set up some mines. now I have a better idea how to go about it.
Ah yeah, that's the stuff i needed to know. I searched youtube, google, wiki etc and couldn't find any info on what you have put in this video. Fantastic job man. Cheers.
Yeah, no problem. There is other series video that explain it, alot of times though the are not specific about setting up certain things. Hope it helps.
yesterday i came into a system with 2 mines next to each other. both using tractor beams to push each other away. but they kept rubber banding back together.
I am loving how easily you dispatched the AI. My ship has like 17k firepower, 8 torpedoes, 7 squads of combat fighters and 3 million shields and it was easy but took a few minutes. You just clicked and it was vaporized. Hilarious!
I’m still confused with a few things my mines do or don’t do: - even if buy and request is off, the mine still ‘buys’ / gets goods from orher faction traders. For free, I don’t pay for it. The mine does consume the goods but does not need them to run. I find this really weird en unintuitive. Kinda cheaty too. *cough trading posts cough * - ye, mines clear asteroids. But the cargo hauler pathfinding still hates asteroid fields and will get stuck. They go like 1m/s untill you remove some asteroids. - I’m still not sure if it matters to build a mine in sectors with factories that actually use the products you mine. Got some stations and mines in far off sectors that work just fine. There seems to be no real trade going on in the universe. Just spawned in cargo haulers.
I thought the same thing about the free stuff...lol. I have a trading post that buys 12000 body armor and I would pick it up and sell it. However I noticed that after that, my income would drop until the free stuff was filled back up. You might be right that it really is totally free, but it's a happened a few times now and I don't know why, other than stations are actually buying the stuff. I might have to try a little experiment and find. Thanks for pointing that out, though. I am going to do a video on that asteroid field problem. I have been lucky so far, NPC have had no problem docking with my mines. However the still get stuck getting to the mine. A force turret video and good old fashioned blasting asteroid video is coming up. Sorry, I think I kinda didnt explain myself really well there. I put the mines in friendly or close to factories that use the minerals if I am transporting them myself. Not relying on NPC to do it. You are right that you dont need to be close to anything.
Shrike Gaming I encountered the same thing last night, while playing with my buddy. Was watching our money. Lost 26m once, 500k the other time, etc. Unfortunatly we made everything as alliance ships, so you cannot see what is happening in the economy chat window. Gonna go through all our stations tonight, turn off buy/request everywhere, and see what happens. In this game we built our own empire in empty sectos. Next to friends though. - it seems only 1 of 3 surrounding allies is trading with us. The closest one. - although they do buy my energy cells. Im constantly saturated. While in my single player game, I made mines inside faction sectors. Those are never saturated. How do you transport your goods out of your sectors then? Automated or ‘by hand’? Recently started to experiment with 1 freighter picking up and delivering multiple kinds of goods (to and from my own stations). It’s not going well :p not how I want it, rather.
I have one question...although the mine can't use more than 25000 of space can we make it bigger to store items?, raidable ones :)my question has been answered in the video :)
being friendly with different factions, does that lead to different types of gear you could buy and otherwise could not get? couple of suggestions for the game developers 1) developing systems, if you build a mine at the outer rims of the galaxy where the need of them is low in the beginning, as they offer materials, the systems where it is in or surrounding the minesystem should develop itself. Quite like it is handled within the X series. That way they are longterm projects and do get better on the return on investment over time 2) i heared that in multiplayer the system is not quite stable yet. Why not make the ticks higher of the mines and similar stuff which does not need immediate attention all the time. Every minute is defenitly still more then enough for mines. So instead of every 15 seconds f.e. 100 mineral production, every minute 400. Even every 5 minute should be fine as most gamesessions take longer anyways and in muliplayer settings they could still produce when the owner is offline. Equally weapon fire rates could be reduced and damage per shot incresaed. All hail the network performance.
I did just like in the video (but before I find it), remove check on the "buy from others", but freighters just dump for free on my mine acid, medical components, mining robots etc, and more to it, they do not buy from mine gold and platinum. I try to reload my save, invert the settings in the mine, it's all not helping. I guess I have a bug at least for free staff that those ships just leave me without taking anything for it.
My only issue is the micro management. You can't really have miner ships without babysitting them, and then having to manually click out all the trade routes.... Crap. I have 6 mines that I abandoned because no NPC's would go there to buy anything, even at Max -% base.
It's relatively new. If you are in a system and 2 ships are destroyed or boarded the system shuts down. All NPC traders will no longer enter the system. Really sucks if you like raid. I am not sure about a indicator, other than it last for about s half hour.
what a hell of a ship. is it in the workshop or do you habe a video about it? i would like to know how you got your ship that fast and almost no colldown
Seems kinda broke that your mine works without any supplies...You'd think that not having enough robots results in less efficiency, or if you don't have enough medical supplies your crew starts dying off...
HOW?? How did you kill the AI so fast? I'd like to get that kind of dps but the turret factories only give little stuff like usually around 5k dps per turret.
I was wondering if you could give me some tips. My in game money continues to fluctuate heavily. In the millions. Theres no subtraction on the side (when a transaction takes place). I only see that it has dropped when I get another income and notice that it has lowered significantly. Within an hour, it fluctuated over 10million. I've just started the multi-player map with my friend a few days ago and this is a mystery to us. Thank you for your content!!
Nope, I as long as you are not in system, the pirates and Xsotan will not spawn. They only spawn where you are at. You can leave the mine and never have to worry about it getting attacked.
I’d like to add: if you build mines/stations in sectors owned by other factions, they will ‘defend’ the sector for you. Nice afk spots too. Throw a cruiser/destroyer in there on attack enemies. Hide in a corner of a station, as a drone. See the pirate kill rewards flow in :)
@@TheTheiceking. A detector does help but you can find those big roids with just your eye. Secret stashes are a little harder to find without a detector.
@@shrikegaming9765 The interface is a little bit different but the concepts still apply. The wiki makes no mention of cargo hold, yet it was the reason I was not mining
That's if you rely on NPCs only. This is a old video, one load of mining robots that the mine bought at no cost to you covered the cost of the mine in about ten minutes. It's a really old video, the supply and demand version we have now works this way using just using NPCs. I was going to delete this video because it's really out of date. Thanks for watching.
If you want to clear an area around your mines easily and quickly then just make your ship into a bulldozer. Make a HUGE armor plate that is twice as wide and twice as tall as your ship and put a stabilizer behind it to reinforce it. Make sure it's a good 4 blocks thick. Then just RAM the asteroids with your ship and if you get some damage who cares because it's cheap to fix iron armor. The bigger and heavier your ship the better. Just move at a nice slow pace and you probably wont even take any damage.
Sometimes you might need to add some extra energy generation and engines to help move the mass you have added but it's not big deal. Just add them anywhere on the outside of your ship other than the front bull dozer blade and cover it with some rocks or armor. When your done then just delete them off your ship and get your resources back.
For FUN you can use this method to sling shot HUGE asteroids into nearby factories by other factions and enjoy the crumple effect. You take no faction hit from this since you don't own the asteroid you hurtled at them =P MWA HAHAHA!!!
...definitely gonna build an asteroid cradling ship 😂
Local government: "The system is a hazard zone!"
You, who just killed all the headhunters: "Are they talking about...me?!?"
Haha
Trying to decide if I want to get this game, so have been watching a few different channels videos. I appreciate your videos (especially for beginners) and the knowledge/experience you share - thanks for your efforts. Cool looking ship too! ;)
Thanks, I will try to keep them coming.
Thanks for this video - very informative. I've made it to the Barrier and want to get a good foothold before I cross, so I figured it was about time to set up some mines. now I have a better idea how to go about it.
Glad it was helpful!
Ah yeah, that's the stuff i needed to know. I searched youtube, google, wiki etc and couldn't find any info on what you have put in this video. Fantastic job man. Cheers.
Yeah, no problem. There is other series video that explain it, alot of times though the are not specific about setting up certain things. Hope it helps.
Thanks Shrike,
Awesome guide, clears up alot on how to build a mine and all.
Keep up with the great work!
yesterday i came into a system with 2 mines next to each other. both using tractor beams to push each other away. but they kept rubber banding back together.
I have seen that as well!
Your videos have really helped me. Thank you.
I am loving how easily you dispatched the AI. My ship has like 17k firepower, 8 torpedoes, 7 squads of combat fighters and 3 million shields and it was easy but took a few minutes. You just clicked and it was vaporized. Hilarious!
End game turrets are OP...lol
@@shrikegaming9765 Chain guns with lasers? or just the OP lasers?
I’m still confused with a few things my mines do or don’t do:
- even if buy and request is off, the mine still ‘buys’ / gets goods from orher faction traders. For free, I don’t pay for it. The mine does consume the goods but does not need them to run. I find this really weird en unintuitive. Kinda cheaty too. *cough trading posts cough *
- ye, mines clear asteroids. But the cargo hauler pathfinding still hates asteroid fields and will get stuck. They go like 1m/s untill you remove some asteroids.
- I’m still not sure if it matters to build a mine in sectors with factories that actually use the products you mine. Got some stations and mines in far off sectors that work just fine. There seems to be no real trade going on in the universe. Just spawned in cargo haulers.
I thought the same thing about the free stuff...lol. I have a trading post that buys 12000 body armor and I would pick it up and sell it. However I noticed that after that, my income would drop until the free stuff was filled back up. You might be right that it really is totally free, but it's a happened a few times now and I don't know why, other than stations are actually buying the stuff. I might have to try a little experiment and find. Thanks for pointing that out, though.
I am going to do a video on that asteroid field problem. I have been lucky so far, NPC have had no problem docking with my mines. However the still get stuck getting to the mine. A force turret video and good old fashioned blasting asteroid video is coming up.
Sorry, I think I kinda didnt explain myself really well there. I put the mines in friendly or close to factories that use the minerals if I am transporting them myself. Not relying on NPC to do it. You are right that you dont need to be close to anything.
Shrike Gaming
I encountered the same thing last night, while playing with my buddy. Was watching our money. Lost 26m once, 500k the other time, etc. Unfortunatly we made everything as alliance ships, so you cannot see what is happening in the economy chat window. Gonna go through all our stations tonight, turn off buy/request everywhere, and see what happens.
In this game we built our own empire in empty sectos. Next to friends though.
- it seems only 1 of 3 surrounding allies is trading with us. The closest one.
- although they do buy my energy cells. Im constantly saturated. While in my single player game, I made mines inside faction sectors. Those are never saturated.
How do you transport your goods out of your sectors then? Automated or ‘by hand’?
Recently started to experiment with 1 freighter picking up and delivering multiple kinds of goods (to and from my own stations). It’s not going well :p not how I want it, rather.
I have one question...although the mine can't use more than 25000 of space can we make it bigger to store items?, raidable ones :)my question has been answered in the video :)
being friendly with different factions, does that lead to different types of gear you could buy and otherwise could not get?
couple of suggestions for the game developers
1) developing systems, if you build a mine at the outer rims of the galaxy where the need of them is low in the beginning, as they offer materials, the systems where it is in or surrounding the minesystem should develop itself. Quite like it is handled within the X series. That way they are longterm projects and do get better on the return on investment over time
2) i heared that in multiplayer the system is not quite stable yet. Why not make the ticks higher of the mines and similar stuff which does not need immediate attention all the time. Every minute is defenitly still more then enough for mines. So instead of every 15 seconds f.e. 100 mineral production, every minute 400. Even every 5 minute should be fine as most gamesessions take longer anyways and in muliplayer settings they could still produce when the owner is offline. Equally weapon fire rates could be reduced and damage per shot incresaed. All hail the network performance.
I did just like in the video (but before I find it), remove check on the "buy from others", but freighters just dump for free on my mine acid, medical components, mining robots etc, and more to it, they do not buy from mine gold and platinum. I try to reload my save, invert the settings in the mine, it's all not helping. I guess I have a bug at least for free staff that those ships just leave me without taking anything for it.
If you set them up right they are the best mid to late game income
My only issue is the micro management. You can't really have miner ships without babysitting them, and then having to manually click out all the trade routes.... Crap. I have 6 mines that I abandoned because no NPC's would go there to buy anything, even at Max -% base.
it can be a little tedious, i would they stream line it a little better.
lmao 6:59 that poor AI just wanted to say hi
Yeah right......lol. they can be so pesky.
@@shrikegaming9765 you...
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@@reallynobody2462. It was before the railgun need, so they did maximum damage through all blocks.
very good guide
was the stuff getting dumped into stations for free fixed?
How did you get such a hard hitting railgun? The numbers seem to bug right out when you hit hull with it
What does a hazard zone do? How does it affect the area ? Is there an indicator that we can see that tells us it is a hazard zone ?
And sorry...thank you for the video and information ! Keep up the avorion videos !
It's relatively new. If you are in a system and 2 ships are destroyed or boarded the system shuts down. All NPC traders will no longer enter the system. Really sucks if you like raid. I am not sure about a indicator, other than it last for about s half hour.
@@beefeeter8267. No problem, I am glad people are playing the game.
does anyone know what turrets is he using??? WTFFFFF
High end railguns before they were nerfed.
@@shrikegaming9765 They must of replaced them with bb guns lol Them things must of been super op
Beautifully explained ! 👍
Don't you need docks?
what a hell of a ship. is it in the workshop or do you habe a video about it? i would like to know how you got your ship that fast and almost no colldown
it pays for itself in 28h
Its awhile, I usually take the equipment off as quick as possible to pay for it right away.
Seems kinda broke that your mine works without any supplies...You'd think that not having enough robots results in less efficiency, or if you don't have enough medical supplies your crew starts dying off...
You would think, but it's still early access, the game will continue to evolve.
HOW?? How did you kill the AI so fast? I'd like to get that kind of dps but the turret factories only give little stuff like usually around 5k dps per turret.
Those are old game railguns and lightening weapons. That was my scout ship with 1 million Omk. They nerfed rail guns because how OP they were.
@@shrikegaming9765 Oh I see. Thank you.
I was wondering if you could give me some tips.
My in game money continues to fluctuate heavily. In the millions.
Theres no subtraction on the side (when a transaction takes place).
I only see that it has dropped when I get another income and notice that it has lowered significantly.
Within an hour, it fluctuated over 10million.
I've just started the multi-player map with my friend a few days ago and this is a mystery to us.
Thank you for your content!!
You're probably getting confused between your own money, and your alliance money
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i have seen different factories and mines building docking stations. do you now have to do this for mines?
Bro I see a 4 month gap, are you done RUclips'n?
Working on it.
Right?
Yeah, I say it alot... lol
Will you not need to defend the mine?
Nope, I as long as you are not in system, the pirates and Xsotan will not spawn. They only spawn where you are at. You can leave the mine and never have to worry about it getting attacked.
I’d like to add: if you build mines/stations in sectors owned by other factions, they will ‘defend’ the sector for you.
Nice afk spots too. Throw a cruiser/destroyer in there on attack enemies. Hide in a corner of a station, as a drone. See the pirate kill rewards flow in :)
so when it has by defeult an white square it can be claimed?
Yes, it can be claimed.
@@shrikegaming9765 supposetly u need an detoctor module to have those white squares but you can mannually indentify em by lookin at thier appearance..
@@TheTheiceking. A detector does help but you can find those big roids with just your eye. Secret stashes are a little harder to find without a detector.
@@shrikegaming9765 yes, exactl;y
For once, a video that was actually useful
This is a old video, might be a little outdated.
@@shrikegaming9765 The interface is a little bit different but the concepts still apply. The wiki makes no mention of cargo hold, yet it was the reason I was not mining
At 5k credits/minute it will take *30* hours to make 9 million, not 8-9.
That's if you rely on NPCs only. This is a old video, one load of mining robots that the mine bought at no cost to you covered the cost of the mine in about ten minutes. It's a really old video, the supply and demand version we have now works this way using just using NPCs. I was going to delete this video because it's really out of date. Thanks for watching.