The circle cutter actually works pretty well, but the fore/aft adjustment is critical. The point has to be right at or very slightly ahead of the blade teeth. Also on my DoAll I use the on/off as a master power switch for the saw but I added a foot switch for the blade. I figured that if something goes bad with the saw I didn’t want to try to get out of the blade and over to the switch. Something happens, I step back, blade stops.
Steve, in the late ‘70’s I worked in a pre-CNC machine shop. My friend worked as a tool and die maker and so he operated one of the SFM-type grinders. Our company used some extremely heavy-duty multi-spindle turret machines like Wickmans. He routinely would precision-grind tools with machines such as these. I remember him using the profile viewer as well. Cool tool indeed!
You are very lucky in life. So glad you are sharing all this. My dad watches the History Channel and other crap. All those shows are about people screwing others or rooting for someone to fail. I would much rather watch you,Keith Adam, Clark, Quinn, This Old Tony, Mister Pete, the list goes on. All of you bring positive into the day. You show your struggles and mistakes and persevere through them. All of us are rooting for you. I think the big thing is that we all want to do what you do and when we start you would root for us too.
When I saw how much those balancing stands cost, I went in another direction. I bought an accelerometer sensor ($5) for an Arduino microcontroller and was able to dynamically balance it. I made a plate so I could add weights around the perimeter and moved them until the vibrations were reduced as much as possible. It really improved the surface quality of my ground finishes.
Hi Steve, as an amateur machinist I was so relieved to see how you balanced those grinding wheels. I made a balancing jig that works on the same principle as your commercial one and used it mainly on those horribly unbalanced wire wheels with excellent results. As there isn’t much to dill on a wire wheel I would add self tapping screws to the light side to even it up. What a difference that makes. Anyway I used the same jig to balance the wheel on my surface grinder and like you I drilled the stone to balance it. I thought it was probably a very shoddy way of doing it but I feel a whole lot better about it now. That grinder is an amazing piece of kit and I shudder to think what it cost new but I’m sure neither you or I could afford one. I love those Do-All accessories. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
😆 loading up a pickup load of drills, taps, reamers, countersinks, and all the other dull things. That way you don't run out of things to practice on 🤣😂. A great addition to your shop 👍 looking forward to learning it with you. I'm still trying to learn my tool and cutter grinder. Wonderful video and thanks for sharing 👍
First thing that came to mind seeing that was rifling broach fluting. That built in optical comparator is the neatest thing since sliced bread on a shop tool. It's really a tool station. Good investment
Hey Steve. Nice find on the SFM grinder. You are lucky to get it fully tooled. I can't imagine trying to find all those accessories on ebay. Well maybe I can.... All the best, Tom
As an apprentice I had the opertunity to use a machine similar to this. Was very satisfying to use to turn a tray of dull drills and end mills back into usefull tools.
Thanks for the flashback " cleaning a grinder "..! Coolent flood tank on a 26 inch diameter, 4 inch thick wheel with a 24 foot bed cylindrical grinder every 4 to 6 weeks .. the goop got everywhere . I do Love the toolroom grinder.. and love the channel each Saturday morning is the first channel that I look for.
That RO grinder was really something! Your demonstration spin-up of the grinding wheels to tens of thousands of RPM was amazing. Sort of like DARPA testing a new kinetic energy weapon.
Steve I love your shop videos, but ive absolutely feel for your dog Cora, shes a real sweetheart and reminds me how much I miss my dog Lady, one of the best dogs that ever lived. Cora seems like such a well behaved good natured pup, Id love to have one just like her
Good video. I always enjoy a new machine. It means I get to learn something new and become a master of it. Thank You and Thank You for the acknowledgment of service in the military. I would do it again if they’d let me.
A lot of guys and gals who's time is up in the military don't want to leave or want to return when they are out. The brotherhood is real and almost impossible to find in civilian life. Thank you for the service 🙏
Thanks so much taking us along. Learned alot. Your new machine is awesome. Can't wait till you learn more about it. New parts, new machine, you're like a kid in a candy store. Take care and thanks again.
If you're going to balance a grinding wheel, you need a wheel hub with adjustable weights. I don't think there's enough money in the universe to get me to stand in front of that grinding wheel after you've drilled into the side of it.
Nice to see this machine in your hands , I’m sure you will put it to good use . It may look like a complicated machine , but it simplifies the process accurately. Thanks of sharing from au
About 35 years ago I worked in a shop that made heat exchangers. The tubesheets and baffles required hundreds to thousands of holes to be drilled, reamed, and grooved. About 90% of the time these were 3/4" diameter, occasionally 1". We would drill them using radial drills, and there wasn't a CNC machine in sight. We never drilled pilot holes as this would significantly increase the hours on a big tubesheet. The swarf was a pretty reliable indicator of when the bit was sharp and when it was dull enough to require sharpening. My recollection is that a sharp bit would eject swarf from both flutes of the bit evenly, and the swarf would not tend to break off unless you disengaged the feed and pulled the bit up a little. This is exactly what your sharpened bit did, so I reckon your grinder was working well. We had a similar grinder in the toolroom of that shop, although I don't remember the manufacturer of it. There was a lot of demand for heat exchangers at that time; the radial drills were in constant operation and the grinder was frequently in use to keep the bits sharp.
There was an old-timer in the town I grew up in that had a reputation for being able to sharpen everything and anything. He sharpened my old rotary Cooper Clipper. His garage shop was filled with machinery I could not identify. I would imagine that he had a cutter grinder of some sort and other specialty tools.
Steve, Nice machine. Back in the 70's, I would periodically stop at a cutter grinder shop a few miles from our shop. Their shop was full of tools like this as their main business was end mill regrinding supporting the plethora of tool and die shops around at the time. Sad to say, most all are out of business and the cutter grinder with them. Ahh, the old days.
Killer machine man would have to go to school for about 3 years or so before he could make any real money with that. Thanks for the show. Tell that dog tony says hello.
Wow Steve! By finding and refurbishing all of this shop equipment, you now have an amazing shop. Then with everything you learned in the process, you have a wealth of knowledge. Now you have completed the trifecta by being able to turn every old dull tool that you find, in to a brand new cutting tool or make anything you need. When the SHTF you will rule the world. I'm proud of you!
@ 32:41 I use drills sharpened (not by me) with a point... Saves me using a pilot drill when cutting soft metal;... Aluminium;... Copper Bus Bars to connect cable lugs... & it eliminates the drill snatching;... digging in...
Interesting ... I'd have assumed a hydraulic feed table on that DoAll 🧐 👍But that tool grinder w/the comparator is SWEET It gives SOO much added value to your shop....>me with watering mouth and Chinese diamond plate
Al came through again, fantastic picking. Great demonstration. My dad had a etching hand wand that used a 12 volt battery. As a kid I don’t know how it worked but tried to use it and destroyed a deep cycle marine battery. I was using it on the steel weld table and set it down to long. Thanks for sharing.
Nice score man that thing is freaking awesome throw a big bit in there and it does it's thing fast and accurate really sweet find 👍👍👍 I'm sure you can get a ton more work out of old dull cutters and make cool custom tools as well 👍👍👍
32 years precision grinding and i have never once balanced a normal 7" diameter surface grinding wheel less than 1 inch wide. Not only have I not done it but no one i have ever worked with has ever done it. No shop i have been ever! Sure seems popular with youtubers though.
I make aluminum rings with set screw holes tapped all around the outside circumference that attach to the back of the wheel hub. That way i can add/remove set screws wherever i need to balance the wheel. It’s quicker and easier than drilling divots.
Steve, I do hope you have a box of drills and taps which you always meant to sharpen and perhaps should have thrown away long ago,. to practice with on the new machine. 😀
I'm pretty sure it's SENECA Sen-a-ca Falls Machine co. Once located about 45 miles north of me at the north end of Seneca Lake and nearby Geneva, NY. Gone now, they built engine lathes and other machine tools for 100+ years.
That thing is cool. I'd really like to see how the comparator works when mounted on the same assembly as the tool grinder. Seems like that swivel head would catch stray grit and lose registration.on the display. Maybe it has other hidden talents...
Thanks for the video Steve, I used to work at a drill place American Tool,made bits for different companies.flute machines, clearing machine and pointing machine.
I own two precision grinders I use in my home shop. 1 is a auction find that was the deal of the century. Apparently designed for optical grinding work it has a diamond wheel with two grit sections and a v notch all in one wheel. Plus four other wheel types. Like your machine this has two cam assemblies. One to move the glass part x and y, and one to move the motor (wheel) for course fine or v-notch. Since I grind carbide not glass I have made some modifications, but have made some new cams for custom applications. Honestly, none of my cam profiles have worked correctly, but I keep trying. So I can totally appreciate the learning curve your machine would have.
I was taught to balance vitreous wheels by grinding shallow recesses on the side of the wheel with a hand grinder. My teacher told me it was best to make the pits wide and shallow to minimize sharp edged stress risers.
Holy Cow! that must have been one expensive tool in it's day. Nice addition for they guy who does not mind making his own tools. Outstanding Steve.
Good afternoon Steve 😊 like your new toys.
The circle cutter actually works pretty well, but the fore/aft adjustment is critical. The point has to be right at or very slightly ahead of the blade teeth. Also on my DoAll I use the on/off as a master power switch for the saw but I added a foot switch for the blade. I figured that if something goes bad with the saw I didn’t want to try to get out of the blade and over to the switch. Something happens, I step back, blade stops.
I added a foot switch to my drill press for the exact same reason. Best upgrade I have made for a long time.
@@richardl4556 same here!
A 'dead mans' or a kick to stop?
Steve, in the late ‘70’s I worked in a pre-CNC machine shop. My friend worked as a tool and die maker and so he operated one of the SFM-type grinders. Our company used some extremely heavy-duty multi-spindle turret machines like Wickmans. He routinely would precision-grind tools with machines such as these. I remember him using the profile viewer as well. Cool tool indeed!
Awesome machine. I found myself reaching for my safety glasses when you turned it on…..
Truely skilled men that designed and made those machines.
You are very lucky in life. So glad you are sharing all this. My dad watches the History Channel and other crap. All those shows are about people screwing others or rooting for someone to fail. I would much rather watch you,Keith Adam, Clark, Quinn, This Old Tony, Mister Pete, the list goes on. All of you bring positive into the day. You show your struggles and mistakes and persevere through them. All of us are rooting for you. I think the big thing is that we all want to do what you do and when we start you would root for us too.
Years ago the History Channel was petty good but now it's in the toilet far as I'm concerned. Much better here..
Great shop also like the square body in the back round .
Spent many hours running one of those !
I like a man with so many machines that he has to use a stick to reach the on/off switch of some of them!
Amazing tool that I didnt know I wanted. Al comes through again. Bet even Stan was envious.
Morning all!
Christmas day makes a return! New machine tool day yippee! Good morning from the UK Cambridgeshire fens on a cloudy day!
That grinder performance is jaw-dropping. Amazing machine.
Nice machine and like the new tools for the shop. Thanks for sharing.
Great video. Awesome grinder. Thank you for sharing.
That one machine is a whole business in itself.
A young man with a good attitude could easily make a nice living with it.
When I saw how much those balancing stands cost, I went in another direction. I bought an accelerometer sensor ($5) for an Arduino microcontroller and was able to dynamically balance it. I made a plate so I could add weights around the perimeter and moved them until the vibrations were reduced as much as possible. It really improved the surface quality of my ground finishes.
That is a really cool idea. You should send me a photo of the setup. I would like to see it
@@SteveSummers I sent you some pics.
Nice new tools! Thanks for sharing.
Hi Steve, as an amateur machinist I was so relieved to see how you balanced those grinding wheels. I made a balancing jig that works on the same principle as your commercial one and used it mainly on those horribly unbalanced wire wheels with excellent results. As there isn’t much to dill on a wire wheel I would add self tapping screws to the light side to even it up. What a difference that makes. Anyway I used the same jig to balance the wheel on my surface grinder and like you I drilled the stone to balance it. I thought it was probably a very shoddy way of doing it but I feel a whole lot better about it now. That grinder is an amazing piece of kit and I shudder to think what it cost new but I’m sure neither you or I could afford one. I love those Do-All accessories. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
😆 loading up a pickup load of drills, taps, reamers, countersinks, and all the other dull things. That way you don't run out of things to practice on 🤣😂. A great addition to your shop 👍 looking forward to learning it with you. I'm still trying to learn my tool and cutter grinder.
Wonderful video and thanks for sharing 👍
First thing that came to mind seeing that was rifling broach fluting. That built in optical comparator is the neatest thing since sliced bread on a shop tool. It's really a tool station. Good investment
Steve, a great mix of content and my Saturday morning is now complete. Thank You.
Hey Steve. Nice find on the SFM grinder. You are lucky to get it fully tooled. I can't imagine trying to find all those accessories on ebay. Well maybe I can....
All the best,
Tom
Thanks for stopping by Tom, good to see you. It wouldn't be easy to find tooling for this grinder anywhere. They don't seem to be all that common.
Seeing Cora enjoying herself made me smile. Lost my shop buddy this week
Sorry to hear that.
Sorry to hear that. They don't last like they should. Hard to let go of good friends
@@SteveSummers thanks
@@dcollins4679 thank you been tough
Very sorry to hear of your loss. We're blessed while we have them.
Looks like a good side gig sharpening tools for folks.
That grinder is cool AF. Thanks for the video Steve!
Didn't know such a machine existing. Awesome video.
Is there anything that machine can't do? Amazing. Thanks for letting us take a look!
As an apprentice I had the opertunity to use a machine similar to this. Was very satisfying to use to turn a tray of dull drills and end mills back into usefull tools.
Thanks for the flashback " cleaning a grinder "..! Coolent flood tank on a 26 inch diameter, 4 inch thick wheel with a 24 foot bed cylindrical grinder every 4 to 6 weeks .. the goop got everywhere . I do Love the toolroom grinder.. and love the channel each Saturday morning is the first channel that I look for.
Thank you 😊
That RO grinder was really something! Your demonstration spin-up of the grinding wheels to tens of thousands of RPM was amazing. Sort of like DARPA testing a new kinetic energy weapon.
It's scary fast. Putting on the wrong size wheel or a bent shank stone could = trouble quickly
We can count on Steve & Keith Rucker to bring us such fasinating machines and one who has the needed skills to properly use them.
Steve I love your shop videos, but ive absolutely feel for your dog Cora, shes a real sweetheart and reminds me how much I miss my dog Lady, one of the best dogs that ever lived. Cora seems like such a well behaved good natured pup, Id love to have one just like her
That’s a very fancy grinding machine, I think you will enjoy learning to use it to it’s full potential. Good girl Cora. 👍
Good video. I always enjoy a new machine. It means I get to learn something new and become a master of it. Thank You and Thank You for the acknowledgment of service in the military. I would do it again if they’d let me.
A lot of guys and gals who's time is up in the military don't want to leave or want to return when they are out. The brotherhood is real and almost impossible to find in civilian life.
Thank you for the service 🙏
Thanks so much taking us along. Learned alot. Your new machine is awesome. Can't wait till you learn more about it. New parts, new machine, you're like a kid in a candy store. Take care and thanks again.
Thanks Steve
amazing grinder, so lucky to find one and one that is complete like that
If you're going to balance a grinding wheel, you need a wheel hub with adjustable weights. I don't think there's enough money in the universe to get me to stand in front of that
grinding wheel after you've drilled into the side of it.
I quit watching after seeing what he did to that grinding wheels 😮😢 (don't forget that those wheels are about as Fragile as a china plate)
Very cool that's the only 2nd one I've seen I thought it'd be fun to learn how to use that Thanks for the video
Nice to see this machine in your hands , I’m sure you will put it to good use . It may look like a complicated machine , but it simplifies the process accurately. Thanks of sharing from au
I’ve never seen a machine like that but I think it is great. I wish you good luck on the machine. Great video.
Very nice machine! Al done did it again! I bet Vintage Machinery is drooling 😁
Awesome relief grinder! One only dare think at what it cost when new! You are a lucky man!
Phil
Need to add a dedicated grinding room to your shop - looks like a great side business.
28:20 Sounds great!! - wind that up enough the workshop goes into warp factor nine, please Mr. Sulu!
I think that new grinder is the perfect fit for you to enhance your grinding skills look forward to future videos.😀
"Steve Gets a New Toy!" 👍🏻😁🤣
Hmmmmm I like that light. I think I'll add two of them to my milling machine! Can never have too much light.
About 35 years ago I worked in a shop that made heat exchangers. The tubesheets and baffles required hundreds to thousands of holes to be drilled, reamed, and grooved. About 90% of the time these were 3/4" diameter, occasionally 1". We would drill them using radial drills, and there wasn't a CNC machine in sight. We never drilled pilot holes as this would significantly increase the hours on a big tubesheet. The swarf was a pretty reliable indicator of when the bit was sharp and when it was dull enough to require sharpening. My recollection is that a sharp bit would eject swarf from both flutes of the bit evenly, and the swarf would not tend to break off unless you disengaged the feed and pulled the bit up a little. This is exactly what your sharpened bit did, so I reckon your grinder was working well. We had a similar grinder in the toolroom of that shop, although I don't remember the manufacturer of it. There was a lot of demand for heat exchangers at that time; the radial drills were in constant operation and the grinder was frequently in use to keep the bits sharp.
Great for marking different types steel cut offs
Good morning. That is one handy machine. Congratulation on getting it. Have a great week ahead.
Never seen a machine like that ,I’m a tool / machine guy thanks for the video
There was an old-timer in the town I grew up in that had a reputation for being able to sharpen everything and anything. He sharpened my old rotary Cooper Clipper. His garage shop was filled with machinery I could not identify. I would imagine that he had a cutter grinder of some sort and other specialty tools.
That work light is awesome Steve.
Steve, Nice machine. Back in the 70's, I would periodically stop at a cutter grinder shop a few miles from our shop. Their shop was full of tools like this as their main business was end mill regrinding supporting the plethora of tool and die shops around at the time. Sad to say, most all are out of business and the cutter grinder with them. Ahh, the old days.
Killer machine man would have to go to school for about 3 years or so before he could make any real money with that.
Thanks for the show. Tell that dog tony says hello.
Wow Steve! By finding and refurbishing all of this shop equipment, you now have an amazing shop. Then with everything you learned in the process, you have a wealth of knowledge. Now you have completed the trifecta by being able to turn every old dull tool that you find, in to a brand new cutting tool or make anything you need. When the SHTF you will rule the world. I'm proud of you!
Always a relaxing and learning Saturday when your video comes out. Greatly appreciate them.
It might be better than the drill doctor 😉 nice ad to the shop. Super cool machine.
One hell of a find Steve. Congrats.I wish I had the room.
Hey buddy, good to see you. I wish I had the room as well😁
All those cool tools and cameos from Cora!
Thank you Steve!
@ 32:41 I use drills sharpened (not by me) with a point...
Saves me using a pilot drill when cutting soft metal;... Aluminium;... Copper Bus Bars to connect cable lugs...
& it eliminates the drill snatching;... digging in...
Interesting ... I'd have assumed a hydraulic feed table on that DoAll 🧐
👍But that tool grinder w/the comparator is SWEET
It gives SOO much added value to your shop....>me with watering mouth and Chinese diamond plate
DoAll bandsaw an excellent piece of equipment,the add ons are great pieces probably thought up by consistent users of the machine.
When you said Treppaning tools I laughed out loud. Then looked it up, and it wasn't for skulls, lol. Cool tool though dude, never seen one before.
Cool machine! Thanks for sharing, looking forward to what that can do. As always: 👍👍
Steve: AWESOME!! It would take me a year of Sundays to figure out, but you are a master. Well done!
Thanks!
Al came through again, fantastic picking. Great demonstration. My dad had a etching hand wand that used a 12 volt battery. As a kid I don’t know how it worked but tried to use it and destroyed a deep cycle marine battery. I was using it on the steel weld table and set it down to long. Thanks for sharing.
Good morning Cora and Steve, your videos always put a smile on my face 😀. Thank you for sharing that awesome tool/cutter grinder.
Nice score man that thing is freaking awesome throw a big bit in there and it does it's thing fast and accurate really sweet find 👍👍👍 I'm sure you can get a ton more work out of old dull cutters and make cool custom tools as well 👍👍👍
Well heck! Thanks!
Very cool machine Steve thanks for sharing
good video steve and Elizabeth
Very VERY neato machine!
32 years precision grinding and i have never once balanced a normal 7" diameter surface grinding wheel less than 1 inch wide. Not only have I not done it but no one i have ever worked with has ever done it. No shop i have been ever! Sure seems popular with youtubers though.
A truly amazing piece of kit. I hope you share more of the learning experience.
The drill bit you sharpened was ground for drilling accurate holes through sheet metal without drama.
Thanks for the video Steve and what a good machine added to the shop. Fletch from the UK
I make aluminum rings with set screw holes tapped all around the outside circumference that attach to the back of the wheel hub. That way i can add/remove set screws wherever i need to balance the wheel. It’s quicker and easier than drilling divots.
Steve, I do hope you have a box of drills and taps which you always meant to sharpen and perhaps should have thrown away long ago,. to practice with on the new machine. 😀
I'm pretty sure it's SENECA Sen-a-ca Falls Machine co. Once located about 45 miles north of me at the north end of Seneca Lake and nearby Geneva, NY. Gone now, they built engine lathes and other machine tools for 100+ years.
very nice adds to the shop
Thank you for sharing. Very nice grinder. Enjoyed the video.👍
Wow, love that grinder! I now need one😢
Fabulous new grinder Steve. Neat the way the cams are profiled on both the radial and axial sides.
wow ! i'm blown away
That thing is cool. I'd really like to see how the comparator works when mounted on the same assembly as the tool grinder. Seems like that swivel head would catch stray grit and lose registration.on the display. Maybe it has other hidden talents...
I thought Keith Rucker's new mill was neat. Your new grinder tops it. Way cool.
Thanks for the video Steve, I used to work at a drill place American Tool,made bits for different companies.flute machines, clearing machine and pointing machine.
I own two precision grinders I use in my home shop. 1 is a auction find that was the deal of the century.
Apparently designed for optical grinding work it has a diamond wheel with two grit sections and a v notch all in one wheel. Plus four other wheel types. Like your machine this has two cam assemblies. One to move the glass part x and y, and one to move the motor (wheel) for course fine or v-notch.
Since I grind carbide not glass I have made some modifications, but have made some new cams for custom applications. Honestly, none of my cam profiles have worked correctly, but I keep trying.
So I can totally appreciate the learning curve your machine would have.
Well Steve utterly amazing machine thanks for the info ace video :-) UK
Did I pause the video to add that gooseneck light to an Amazon order? Why yes I did.
that is one awesome grinder.
I like your fancy pants drill Dr. Great video Steve!
If you make a ‘Tool Dork’ t-shirt, I will buy it.
They are in the works😁
Beautiful machine!
Superb machine…
I was taught to balance vitreous wheels by grinding shallow recesses on the side of the wheel with a hand grinder. My teacher told me it was best to make the pits wide and shallow to minimize sharp edged stress risers.