Rotfl true The base model for home users = PRO The model for professionals= XL The more powerful model for professionals (but just as big as the XL)= XXL
A thought on the XXL: Since the recent popularity of larger pour overs will this be perfect for using with the Orea Big Boy (and others like it) that requires around 1 liter of water which is often too large for kettles?
Nice to see you embracing the higher voltages available to drop amps. How will the machine handle common commercial 3 phase voltages like 208 and 277 or even industrial 480? Are you using a wide input range switching supply that current limits or will each voltage require specific components? Going back to a previous conversation of a larger commercial machine, do you have any experience with rack mount server hardware and how they use modularity and hot-swapability to handle efficient parts swaps of failed components?
Unfortunately cannot handle arbitrary voltages as the resistive element of the heaters as to be calibrated to each voltage. Yeah very much know about server racks as I was a sysadmin for many years. I’m planning on writing multilocation, multimachine espresso management software, so that cafes can reduce downtime, see future failures, see when they need more capacity, see when quality of service is poor, and other things common to data centers but unknown to espresso machines. :-)
The close-up of the pour-over screen reminds me of a step in homebrewing (beer) called sparging. I didn't think I'd be pondering coffee/beer crossover tech so early in the day.
I have a question when doing a straight nine bar shot will the extra flow rate be helpful on the XXL. I've heard on straight nine bar shots they're a little better on the linea mini. Will this extra flow be beneficial?
@@decentespressothanks for answering my question, is this on par with the linea mini in your opinion? Can it do 9 bar shots as well ? Have there been changed to the decent to elevate it to that level?
Hey John question the xl and the pro are they the same except the xl can be plumbed in and can be counter sunk and haves a cover in the back is that it?
Cafe Frama in Frome in a nice pilgrimage. decentespresso.com/contact us and let us know where in the UK you are and we'll try to find someone local. Now with COVID decreasing in the UK, visits are more likely to happen.
Yeh the XXL can be a bit too much if your cup numbers per day aren't so great. The XL with the 3 hole tip makes great milk to just takes a few seconds longer.
Seriously?! The La Marzocco Linea Mini is $5,400.00 before tax, in which it does one thing and not nearly as well as the Decent. The Decent mercilessly spanks the Linea Mini clear around the block in every aspect, especially with countless profile options. Half the cost of the Linea Mini is brand tax and the other half is pure hype. The Decent is an absolute bargain for what you get.
actually every kitchen already has 220 since most kitchens have what is called a split 110 meaning every plug has 110 X 2 ,, while top and bottom plus are independent on the panel
Still think De1Café sounds better but, whatever. Are you experimenting with A.I. , machine learning, and (I think that's a cool term) computational extraction and is it somehow possible as the tech gets more advanced and smarter to measure weight without scale and maybe even EY and TDS? This last two are probably harder than proving string theory and dark matter. 😁
I don't understand either. Google emails them to me, and when I go to reply, they're gone. Sorry, please repost your question if that happens. I suspect it's Google's spam-killer being overzealous.
I don't mean to be rude, but that second guy (Mohammed?) who's been appearing in these videos lately is a distraction from what is otherwise really great content. I trust that he's a friendly guy in person, but he constantly seems to want to monopolize the screen time rather than letting John just do his thing. Please reconsider his participation or at least ask him to tone it down a bit. P.S. I also get that he hates Americans, but a lot of us are decent people who are trying to make the world a better place. No need to throw generalizations around about people you don't know.
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love the improvement, hopefully future models get a better naming sense.
Rotfl true
The base model for home users = PRO
The model for professionals= XL
The more powerful model for professionals (but just as big as the XL)= XXL
A thought on the XXL: Since the recent popularity of larger pour overs will this be perfect for using with the Orea Big Boy (and others like it) that requires around 1 liter of water which is often too large for kettles?
Nice to see you embracing the higher voltages available to drop amps. How will the machine handle common commercial 3 phase voltages like 208 and 277 or even industrial 480? Are you using a wide input range switching supply that current limits or will each voltage require specific components? Going back to a previous conversation of a larger commercial machine, do you have any experience with rack mount server hardware and how they use modularity and hot-swapability to handle efficient parts swaps of failed components?
Unfortunately cannot handle arbitrary voltages as the resistive element of the heaters as to be calibrated to each voltage. Yeah very much know about server racks as I was a sysadmin for many years. I’m planning on writing multilocation, multimachine espresso management software, so that cafes can reduce downtime, see future failures, see when they need more capacity, see when quality of service is poor, and other things common to data centers but unknown to espresso machines. :-)
And next well be building prototypes at 13a 15a and 20 amp. Heat transfer and physics make this not a simple matter of ramping power.
Can you retro fit an XL to an XXL or other power versions in the future?
@@kowalskimichael It is not, sorry. The higher powered models need some important high power part swaps.
brewing and steaming can't be performed simultaneously ?
Is there any place in London where you can see a demo of the Decent Machine? Thanks
The close-up of the pour-over screen reminds me of a step in homebrewing (beer) called sparging.
I didn't think I'd be pondering coffee/beer crossover tech so early in the day.
Uppers and downers perfect match to balance things out 😅
I have a question when doing a straight nine bar shot will the extra flow rate be helpful on the XXL. I've heard on straight nine bar shots they're a little better on the linea mini. Will this extra flow be beneficial?
Hi James, I believe this to be more to do with real time temp stability and the distribution of water within the group head.
@@decentespressothanks for answering my question, is this on par with the linea mini in your opinion? Can it do 9 bar shots as well ? Have there been changed to the decent to elevate it to that level?
Can this model use without plumbing? My coffee counter top does not have pipes for plumbing purposes.
Yes it can
@@decentespresso Hahah I've already found out. Already purchased the DE1PRO. :)
Hey John question the xl and the pro are they the same except the xl can be plumbed in and can be counter sunk and haves a cover in the back is that it?
Almost the same apart from the XL has more powerful steam. Shot wise they are difficult to distinguish.
Hi, do new XL machines come with the new steam wand or is that XXL exclusive ?
new XL and XXL come with the latest steam wand model (v2)
Can you help me understand what plug I need again? It sounded like you said nema 50n? or was it nema 15n?
nema 6-15
Looking for a new machine, were can i see in the uk
Cafe Frama in Frome in a nice pilgrimage. decentespresso.com/contact us and let us know where in the UK you are and we'll try to find someone local. Now with COVID decreasing in the UK, visits are more likely to happen.
How many watts comes out of it tho if I have a smart power strip that hold 1800 watts is that good if I put it on a 240 v out?
I might just stick with the xl I mean I’ll just get the 3 hole wand and wait a lil longer haga
Yeh the XXL can be a bit too much if your cup numbers per day aren't so great. The XL with the 3 hole tip makes great milk to just takes a few seconds longer.
Where does one get one of those coffee carts?
decentespresso.com/coffeecart
Some Decent Power John!
Jokes were really funny 🤣 You and Mohammed are awesome 👍🏻
Love the xxl, but decents are a bit too expensive.
Seriously?! The La Marzocco Linea Mini is $5,400.00 before tax, in which it does one thing and not nearly as well as the Decent. The Decent mercilessly spanks the Linea Mini clear around the block in every aspect, especially with countless profile options. Half the cost of the Linea Mini is brand tax and the other half is pure hype. The Decent is an absolute bargain for what you get.
@@illiniwood The Decents are a bit too expensive, the Linea Mini is waaaaaaaay too expensive :)
Can you show us making latte art out of it plz. Understand the steam is powerful but seeing is believing.
Here you go: ruclips.net/video/azh_q0qpO5Y/видео.html - I've asked Dennis to make a longer video showing the whole process.
@@decentespresso Great! Hope to see more videos including the whole steaming process so we can actually see the shortended steaming time.
actually every kitchen already has 220 since most kitchens have what is called a split 110 meaning every plug has 110 X 2 ,, while top and bottom plus are independent on the panel
Still think De1Café sounds better but, whatever. Are you experimenting with A.I. , machine learning, and (I think that's a cool term) computational extraction and is it somehow possible as the tech gets more advanced and smarter to measure weight without scale and maybe even EY and TDS? This last two are probably harder than proving string theory and dark matter. 😁
Damn still got the vibration pump 😞
Weird also, some questions and comments seemed to have been deleted, not sure why.
I don't understand either. Google emails them to me, and when I go to reply, they're gone. Sorry, please repost your question if that happens. I suspect it's Google's spam-killer being overzealous.
You should put me in the video for the race joke since you have to have an Asian whenever you make a joke about it.
Oh wait
4 bars of steam power? that doesn't seem right lol
I don't mean to be rude, but that second guy (Mohammed?) who's been appearing in these videos lately is a distraction from what is otherwise really great content. I trust that he's a friendly guy in person, but he constantly seems to want to monopolize the screen time rather than letting John just do his thing. Please reconsider his participation or at least ask him to tone it down a bit.
P.S. I also get that he hates Americans, but a lot of us are decent people who are trying to make the world a better place. No need to throw generalizations around about people you don't know.
Yeah, that was a concern I had with this video, and for the Puck Rake video we toned it way down. ruclips.net/video/HIexlhxP0Ig/видео.html
@@decentespresso speaking about the Puck Rake... grooming your beard with it seems to be another use of it -> 8:12min of the video
@@emmanuelpollakis5196 Yah, someone must have slipped something "funny" into Mohammed's afternoon latte that day.
This guy Mohammad made it less boring in my opinion.
I’ll justify the price tag for the sex appeal
Hilarious! The Colonials don’t even have a 240 volt power system. Who knew?