....I don't know. I really don't know. I love UBG. The concepts are insane and hajime no ippo was one of the best animes I've ever watched in my life. Initially, I've been trying to adapt to literally everything. The toxicity, the new combat system, the playstyles. Hell, even my ping randomly shooting up to 400. I don't know why I'm trying so desperately to love this game. All I'm hoping is that drowning's team can fix their game before even a large fan like me starts to hop off.
To be honest, for me, as a player who reached 20k and left a rating, this does not seem like something new, I noticed it and will notice it every day, I literally watched 4 or 5 people on one of the servers praying for the death of the mother of one good dude who did That's right and just came out ignoring them, the only thing that really annoys me is that this game, like many other competitive games not only in Roblox, will drag you into their toxic swamp, and you will become the same terrible toxic toad, sometimes when I log on to the servers they write to me - "Wow, you have 20k and streak is over 60, you're probably the god of this game" and all that, but when you remember how you were cursed for it, you don't feel like it's something meaningful, it's more like a stigma, in fact, if you have more than 16k - 18k, people won't want to fight you, because they understand they have no chance, and when they see your crazy Win Streak, they just admire you from afar and shun you in battle, I literally have to fight either very rare champions or newcomers who just entered the game because other people don't want to fight me. I would like to hide my rank.
bro just create an alt account it aint that hard, also as someone who is 22k I assure you not all people will run away from you if you can just talk to them or say you want to spar with them, honestly it aint that hard
@@clintguia7984 It's really easy to create a new account, but then what is the point of my Main's existence when I can jump on twinkies and say that I am the god of this game. It's stupid and everyone will immediately understand that I'm a fucking smurf, I don't want to create a new account because I want to continue my journey from what I started, and not look for an excuse every time to turn left or right, it's banal to become a beginner who destroys champions. And how can I become a Smurf when I hate them so much myself. As for the fact that I can ask a person to enter the ring with me, then it's a matter of taste and "honor" or something like that, I don't want to approach the conditional 16k diamond (because basically such people are the strongest after me on the servers) and ask him to come out with I am 1v1 knowing that the chances that he will win are about 20-40% because he still lacks experience, and as for the fact that I will give him a lesson with this fight, many do not absorb this knowledge, most simply merge saying - I did not have a chance or just hate me. So I would like people to come fight with me, just like that.
i agree with this, i am 19k and finding opponents in the casual game is nearly impossible as nobody wants to fight you besides other good players and new players
I’m sorry you had to experience this. But it’s important to know how experienced a player is before fighting him. If you couldn’t then you would never know which player was good and which was god teir. And also, running into somebody who can pd every m2 AND m1 is not something somebody wants to deal with randomly. How this games rank system is made seems more of describing how good you are and not how experienced you are. They should change it to rounds played and NOT SHOW THE STREAK. streak hunters make me lose sanity tbh bro.
I think a better thing for Passive Players is for them to be unable to perfect dodge if they stand still, and the first hit they throw when they do goes slower than usual
@@forgottenxzHow is it good?😭 You really expect drowning do some to your net or roblox servers? Low ping supremacy is a common thing on every single other games, so ppl's complaining bout it is mostly their own problems.
The easiest way to fix passive play is by adding like 100 second timer that resets each time someone gets knocked, and if it reaches 0 it disables backdashing for both players until someone gets knocked
The ping issue is real. Got to 22k with 70-110 ping and the recent updates made me abandon ranked completely. I can't compete against styles like Hitman, Long Guard or Ghost.
I agree bro, like its just impossible to keep up, we barely get used to 1 system and it takes months, then drowning just messes it up completely and makes it favour the low ping players..
@forgottenxz Literally, I learned patterns for literally every style because it was the only way I could ever keep up. And then I have to readapt because drowning unintentionally fucked it up too. I'm just so done with ranked I can't be bothered.
I still play ranked since I do enjoy it and thankfully I haven't ran into to too many toxic players. However, runners are a major issue and they should do something similar to Anime Showdown where if no one takes damage for 10 seconds then you gain this dash that brings you to your enemy allowing for a lot of damage. This could stop runners since they wouldn't wanna be sneak-attacked by this all the time. Imma put this in the server and hope a lot of other people do as well and drowningsome listens
I feel like new UBG combat systems is just flaw rn, drowning try to fix those issue but completely make the game unplayable. Wouldn't be better IF drowning makes those patch: 1. PD now have a cooldown, removed PD can only be done on the first dash of a sequence but the second second dash is more easier to punish or catch. 2. The buff m1s speed can only been applying if continuously attack once you begin to play passive those buff will gone and PD would be much harder to do plus easier to be catch, style that doesn't have a fast jabs would lose 5% m1s speed buff leaving them 5% speed buff but for style have fast jabs like hitman,long guard would completely lose 10% speed buff.
The game lacks mechanics, and players that say ''nah the combat is fine'' are most likely golden rank, if you are champion, diamond rank (20k), and actually fight good players, you can see the flaws of the combat being really limited, being that: Agressive Playstyle has counterplay While Passive Playstyle has no counterplay Agressive Playstyle counterplay is basically: Counter Playstyle, Perfect Dodges, and dodges Passive Playstyle doesn't have a counterplay, and the best way to add a balanced counterplay to passive playstyle is adding **Feinting**: Which encourages more Agressive fighting because Feinting would be a bait for dodges. More controversial mechanic would be the Clinch, which in my pov adds more variety in combat, and doesn't seem overpowered if you try to balance it in your head
In my opinion, a good ping starts from 70 and below, I play in this range myself, but there are times when I can't hit a terribly buggy Slugger with my 50-70 ping, at such moments I don't even know what to do. :/
It’s funny how this is an actual issue. Some people sided with drowning here. You can't fix everything while adding new things to the game. We already know drowning is the only developer of the game.. he already stated that and people can't accept the fact that he can't fix everything all at once. "Just let him cook"
This part about ping is incredibly true, I'm tired of losing fights because my ping went from 150 to 200, fights that I would have won I lose because of ping, I just hate it so much.
I agree with every point stated in this video, I honestly just believes it comes down to the point where either the most passive/lower ping player wins. No matter how genuinely good you are at the game you cannot beat anyone with significantly lower ping than you or someone being too passive and runs away the entire match. I'm playing a boxing game not a tom and jerry simulator. Good video btw
I like UBG but majority times i get on and encounter few matches I just end up getting pissed off at the end or annoyed because of shitty hitboxes hitting me from a mile away even if i clearly dodge or block i just get hit, passive players. Just went against a ghost with bullet and I kept getting outsped by his m2s when i clearly hit with an m1 and I just keep getting hit because the guy was playing passive and i kept having bad ping that keeps randomly spiking. I feel like to nerf passive play is a person NEEDS to throw a punch to actually initiate their PD or something because it just so annoying playing this game. Also not to mention i love getting so many wins then lose 1 match in ranked and -200 rt and i need to do 2 or 3 annoying extra matches to get back where i started
You know... At the moment of the life of this game, I will put forward a petition that now - "your rank is a Stigma" Because if you are gold or lower, you will be called weak, and if a diamond with 18k or more, no one will fight with you.
I didnt know that people actually thought that all styles were fucking equal, probally the same guys to only use hitman and do m1 m1 m1 and walk back and repeat
Actually, but ALMOST all styles can do this, Bullet, Long Guard, Iron fist, Basic, Ippo. The only ones who can't do this are styles that have a very small attack range, and very weak jerks, like Turtle.
@melvin404 Ik a ton of styles have this, it's just that with hitman this problem is even worse. For my personally I have a lower end device and my WiFi isn't too good, so I'm basically forced to play 100 ping, making perfect dodging like 100× harder. Like ping is defo gonna affect gameplay no matter what, but like Ugb takes this shit to a whole different lvl
Thats what ive been saying bruh. Drowning keeps adding these styles and yet ignore the game itself. Also the toxic players istg they just wait there in the ring and talk shit after
To me, balance changes cause styles to become unbalanced rather than balanced. I'm a main slugger and in the ranking I feel terribly nerfed because it doesn't seem fair that a long guard hits me from 3 kilometers and I can't do anything and also that the cooldown to dodge and the "buff to the dash" is ruining all
@@zeusnacion-gu1ki And I can tell you how I "bought" a +slot for the "BEST PRICE": Bat gloves from Hellowen create with effect. 60 spins 100k of money 12 lucky boxes and 3 lucky backs + another pair of legendary gloves. Even though it was very stupid, but this game is not about trading, it's a game about battles... So for the most part, I don't care.
Disclaimer: this is (maybe) a rant Just fought a guy named "mike tyson" something something in his name, and me using long guard. Of course bro was using ippo, which was fine. Then when we engaged bro was being passive in the first half of our fight. I thought "Wow this guy's being passive." Holding that block which kinda helps in perfect dodging is what he did, never even once started a clash, and me always being the one to start the bout. Had to use feint to even hit him. Then on second half of our fight he finally started a clash, of course I was off-guard (no pun intended) by that and ended up losing. And when we had a rematch I kinda tried using his passive strat calling it the "Waitress Mike Tyson" at that point in time. And wouldn't you know it, I actually got the upperhand and 1-0 that guy. Unfortunately I got disconnected cuz it was raining. So to conclude, like everyone is saying, ubg rewards passive play with no risks and not aggresive play which I think is more fun. When you encounter a passive, just leave, maybe try to win if you're good enough. Another thing I wanna say is that there is no "passive style", only "outboxer styles". Look at Thomas Hearns, an outboxer, in his fight with Sugar Ray, he was actively throwing jabs st Ray. And what about Ray? He was dodging cuz Thomas has more reach, trying to see an opening, which is truly more harder than reacting to the outline when punching.
Another thing is hiding rank. I played before the rank system's and people wouldnt wanna fight cause of my knockdown numbers. Now I'm not all that high I'm in that final stage for gold before I hit the next rank and most people avoid me if they arent Continental or higher. Or just a new player. I'll be in a lobby for mintues watching everyone fight except me. I got jumped by two guys who each lost to me individually after they jumped me. I used hitman so one of them changed to hitman and spammed me. So I just spun, got smash and he wanted to finally 1v1, he got cooked and they proceed to be toxic again. Like dude how you laughing at me cause I won?????? I just wanna be able to hide my rank as well.
Ngl they should add ping based servers (like if you have 100-200 ping you will join a server with people that have the same ping region as you, and if your 90-0 you will join a server filled with people that also have 90-0 ping almost constantly)
Ok ngl, who ever uses Hitman like that annoys, as a hitman user, you literally have good speed, great strength and defense, like what need do you have that you just stay in the corner and wait
the thing is, you can train really hard as a kimura and beat a hitman. But as soon as they have they same amount of skill and they have a better style, you will lose 99% of the time
In fact, all styles are relatively equal in front of each other if you look at the characteristics, but when it comes to the fight itself, then the problems begin, take the same M1 spam from Hitman followed by running around, and Hawk with its terrible animation and just insane damage from Counter. The most painful and biggest problem of styles is that they are all broken in some one area, which is why some styles can't even win others in theory, I'll give a happy strange example, but Turtle dominates Hawk if he plays well, because Turtle's block is incredibly strong, and Hawk's M1 damage the lowest in the game.
I’ve been playing this game since Hawk came out and I’ve been sitting on World Champion 1 for a while. I understand that the dodging update that drowning put out was supposed to nerf dodge spamming and make players less passive but to me I feel like ever since that update, players have been more passive then ever. Sure maybe people can’t backdash as much but that also makes forward dashing for more aggressive players (like me) not worth it. I feel like that update only supported more passive play rather than combating it and I’ve just been having a real struggle to have the motivation to play because it feels like the only way to win (in higher level matches) is to play more passive than your opponent otherwise I’ll simply be read and counter or perfect dodged. Dodging has also felt more sluggish to me ever since and it’s been really demotivating because I’ve gone from perfect dodging every attack (not dodge spam) to perfect dodging once in a blue moon.
Yea the dodge change made the game more passive in some part player who engaged are punished and they bear more risk, Like why you want to punish player who want to finish a match in under 5 min instead of player who rope the match for 20 min straight. As for My idea to fix this is add a timer just add a fucking timer for god if the timer of the match ran out back dashing will be disabled and front dash will be enchanced
As someone who played the game since wolf was realeased, the bad ending to this is that drowning might not care about doing something about the passive playthrough
I played rank only for the spin, you're more likely to get a style slot there. Also yes, hitbox is dogwater and can be quite annoying sometimes but we sometimes laugh it off because of confusion
I was playing boxing league but i switched to this cuz its much less toxic I have barely seen any toxic players in this game, while in boxing league i play 3 matches whith 3 people and all of them are toxic and also there are levels in BL and the person whith higher level is just stronger whith no downsides cuz he has moves you dont have
Trust me, when you get good enough, people will split into 2 sides: 1 - They will curse you and hate you when they can't beat you. 2 - They will admire you from afar, not daring to enter the ring.
Funniest fact you forgot to mention : "They wasnt making game for passive play" also them (Adding Hawk with instant perfect dodge which is more abuseable cuz it dont requires brain cells to tap A and D more than Spacebar)
YES BRO. I faced a long guard that kept running then wanna talk trash like bruh. Then when I complain about it on Discord, all the edgelords wanna say skill issue. Then if I clap back, I get banned 💀
@@topfary3272 Perhaps you really have problems with skills, but this does not negate the fact that, for example, when playing for the style of Counter against Hitman or Long guard, you simply will not be able to get them because of their monstrous attack distance, sometimes it really discourages you from playing if you cannot impose your style from the first seconds.
i appreciate you voiced my (and any other logical persons) views w the kimura n hitman thing and ykw man ranked is a CESSPIT i once wanted to get to undisputed and 20k was a milestone but everytime i got close a toxic sweat came in and took it from me. drowning needs to fix ranked and make it way more rewarding.
I used to play Ranked Mode, but I only played three matches and all of them were wins for me. The first match was me using Slugger against a Ghost user, the second one was me using Slugger against a Smash user and the third one was me using Hitman against another Ghost user. The reason on why I've stopped playing Ranked Mode is because some people are toxic fighters. I think there should be an update that you can fight against AI where you can choose the difficulty and style that the AI will be using. The difficulty affects the damage, aggression behaviour and health of the AI including increasing the money rewards if you defeat the AI.
About the ping supremacy thing, I live in South America and roblox does not have servers there, because of that your ping will be way higher than other places, In my case the minimum ping i can get is 130, it is still playable but you can clearly see the difference when fighting someone with low ping, their m1,m2 and dash just works better and faster, when you reach 200 ping the game becomes clearly unfair, all your moves get delayed and way slower than your opponent, it doesn´t even matter the style, it feels like your moves are all linked to ping, so the higher you get, the worse it is, and when you reach very high amounts like 1k, it feels like you can watch a whole video while waiting for your m1 to land
YEAH! finally somebody talked about the problems of all games not only ranked my biggest issues are passive players, instead of trying to get head to head with me i'd MOSTLEY win the battle not always tho , like HOW DO YOU EVEN MAKE IRON FIST AND IPPO CAPBLE OR PLAYING PASSIVLEY? HOW? second ping like you said i play at leaset 160 ping nothing less and then i'll fall with hawk or a hitman yeah fuuuuun cool combo tho , ghost jab into M1 string and ult , a classiC but still a cool one in my oppinion 6:42
you forgot to mention some wolf players, I had so many cases where people just stand there and hit you with double fang and spam that the whole game then stops as soon as you have very low health where you cant even recover, thats why Im still in prodigy.
Another problem is the slugger style as a whole, they nerf it, say they fix it, but it's a walking glitch that everyone exploits even on accident I was fighting a slugger user with one of my favourite styles, Counter and i was countering him pretty well up until he started doing something, he dashed into my range and charged his m2, i attacked to cancel his m2 the second i calculated that his s were gone in the middle of the dash, we were basically 1cm away from each other, i jab and my jab goes through him as he fully charges the m2 and hits me, i try again and each time he always gets s during the whole m2 charge and even after the m2 is launched he has s I main iron fist because i found out it's one of the best ways to check if someone is a fraud who is carried by their ping, device & fps or if they actually have what it takes to be their rank, even with my average 180-250 ping (sometimes 250-500 or completely spiking up to 1500), terrible fps, horrible phone (i can't buy a PC) and my lack of motivation even if i'm better and leave them at 1 hit i lose because the ping difference is too much The "outboxers" are mostly all just trash who crumble under pressure yet the new mechanics and updates gave them a better way to run away, i have met outboxers who were worthy of praise for actually initiating fights then only moving away to analyze my in-fighting So far this video covers all the reasons why i only sometimes enter emptier public servers to fight and chill in my private with friends, it's just more fun fighting actual equals who share your ping & device. Now i just wanna have fun with my friends since my goal of becoming a champion is gone however i do have one goal which might sound dumb but i'll say it anyway, i wanna be able to improve more, to either get a PC to actually improve more since i can no longer improve on mobile, i wanna actually fight someone equal to me before i get fully bored and retire from the game, i wanna fight someone in an actually fair match, and whether i win or lose i won't care as just like Joe Yabuki (the GOAT) i would've burnt brighter than anyone else and turned to white ashes. Sorry for being dramatic.
@@forgottenxz I also forgot to mention that in-fighters are hella rare now since even in-fighting styles are being used passively & to outbox, in-fighting in the game has become so unviable (is that the word for it?) that every offensive style (except slugger because it's a walking glitch & smash because most smash users are built different) has to be passive or else they lose, and this all happened because people refused to use their hands and instead use their legs in a game about throwing hands
Hey. Vet player here. See, I’ve been playing since July, a month after the game came out, and I’m sitting at 16k on ranked. Why? Because I refuse to use hitman, long guard, or any of the braindead styles. I COMPLETELY agree that all styles aren’t equal. There are some busted styles that take little to no effort to use, and people use them on ranked. Another thing, your rank essentially determines your skill, according to the community. I find this patently false and completely untrue. I’m primarily a mobile player, and ranked runs like shit on mobile, so I refrain from playing it. Only time I play ranked seriously is on PC. I regularly play in casual servers, and I’d say I’m decent. But since I’m a ‘3k knockdowns at Gold’ I apparently suck.
Were in the same boat bro, Ive been playing this game simce day 1 pretty much, and I js refuse to give into hitman and similar.. They claim all styles are viable, but its pretty obvious they aint..
Number 4. I have suffered this curse for months. Everyday I hop on this game I fight mobile players (my bretheren) and I can out skill them every time, might not win but I get a CHANCE against mobile players. The. One faithful hour I decide to play this game I run into a random dude with hitman who can perfect dodge shit that makes no sense. WHY IS IT ALWAYS HITMAN.
I quit ranked when i went from diamond 3 to diamond 1 so i just play the main game and hunt for toxic people, ranked really wasn't for me and its always filled with toxic fucks and i completely agree with this video
In my opinion i like the idea of losing health if you play pasive, lol, and i would like to a be a thing in the game like the ps3 game, the stats,once a round end you check your stats like idk good force but bad speed for the punches like that will force to play in diferent moves, other thing its like whit a clock the ring becomes more small forcing the player to be agressive, other thing its like remove the pd that thing its the most powerfull weapon whir the 40 ping in the game like fr bro this its not a boxing game its a game that you need to trow the most pd to win thats all shesh
ill be honest when u play ubg the ping will go high and low its like the ping is trolling you,next the style when u main ur own style and ur in the rank the movement will go slower everytime when u spam m1 and m2 all because of the ping this game need to be fix its like the game is trolling u alot
Been playing this game since slugger came out, And in my experience, I have encountered so many issues, One of the issues is the range, Like wtf do I have to even explain this 💀, People with a good range style could literally hit you 50 kilometers away😂, And probably your thinking, "just dodge forward.", well no shit Sherlock, The dashing in ubg is literally trash, To the point where you clearly dodge the hit, a mother fuckin damage will came out of nowhere, like wtf? - there's way too many issues on the game, and this 2 that I hate the most.
Here’s the problem is that even despite the passive players LITERALLY when you get to a point in the game where your good enough to dodge within a 5 second frame of expecting a punch your just standing there stalling the fight out waiting for the first punch from your opponent and it’s so dumb. The fact your STARING at them for a whole 6’s is stupid, don’t even get me started on Hawk mains who you can sit there for 8’d and still somehow PD the punch despite the fact YOU LITERALLY WAITED A WHOLE EIGHT SECONDS DOING NOTHING
Bro perfect ping is the most unfair thing on this game, me as an brazillian player i'm close to stop playing bcs someone from another region with perfect ping can destroy me in seconds, even if i have low graphics and perfomace mode on. A guy that literally started today could almost make an 3-1 just using ippo, high ping with no brazillian server + trash hitbox= almost unplayeable
I guess that the best way to get rid of passive players is just to add a "hit timer". Basically if they don't attack you for like 5-7 seconds, they will receive a warning and after like 3-5 warnings they will lose or something.
You probably didn't though about how it will affect other player who's trying to catch the runner, especially if he got first few hits on u and just started running
I never really had fun in ranked tbh I used to be diamond two until people started to develop horrendous passive play to the point I can’t even hop on ranked to have fun
The ping issue needs to be fixed, almost any mobile player can agree that with high ping, the game is really difficult to fight someone with decent amount of ping. I don’t want to pay a $1000 for a pc to just be better at a kids game. Hope they slowly fix ping over time. A good example would be AOPG. Almost unplayable for mobile players at first before the owner looked into it. After that no lag existed for a mobile player like me. They need to take time out of their day and focus on quality of life changes and fixes instead of updating the game for new styles and new mechanics, because that will make the ping issue worse over time.
I 100% agree with on that because evrrytime I join a server I'm getting like over 100 ping everytime I get into a fight. And it's making me slowly lose motivation for the game. If they fix this which I highly doubt they will I will return to this game
I dont haved that rlly strange experience as you, always its was not passive guyz, one thing its was brainded players on smash (now) and ghost (in past) and my ping 60-90 and i became world champion by high cost of nerves. And yeah, that me, slugger champiom. 🤙 Me too man, im quit it 3 weeks ago.
I've sorta been on this downward spiral playing this game, my latest play session was just... terrible, all around even. Heck, when the game is all fine, I don't necessarily feel like Im having fun to the fullest, cuz there's just so many things about this game that can make or break this whole experience, I don't even know where to begin. Like, ping differences so bad, a lag spike can be considered a time stop for you and the opponent gets to destroy you in a split second. Hit boxes so nonsensical that styles that don't specialize in range (say ippo for example) can hit you while you take two steps back or so, or even the fact that you can be in breathing distance and still miss somehow w/out the opponent dodging away. Dodges and s that don't make sense, you'd believe you got out of the way safely but nope you got hit anyway (especially if you rubber band back into getting hit, god that just sucks), or how about getting pd by the opponent for whiffing a punch but you were already done missing but it still counted as a pd for some reason? How about ults? My god man, what fun is there to use it while not at kill range, land it, and either get hit afterwards or having it completely wasted if you get knocked down immediately after cuz now the other guy has all his hp restored. At the very least, the VERY least, I can get behind getting hit by a fast style, cuz fine I guess that makes sense, but nope I guess any style even slow as a dang turtle is just plus on frames to wail on you afterwards. This game at it's absolute worst is misery to play, and when it's "enjoyable" I don't even feel all that accomplished for wasting what could possibly be 10 minutes max of wasted time for myself and the other person. I liked the game for what it was before, and that experience of just playing with simple controls and no dumb, weird gimmicks like kicking the opponent but instead have gimmicks centered around what style you get was the more enjoyable experience of UBG, though to this day dealing with Hitmans and Sluggers are still a pain no doubt about that. Overall, when worse comes to worst, to me UBG is the one example of why Roblox and pvp just doesn't mesh well together, top that with whatever game mechanics the game itself follows and essentially this game is as bad as XV2 online pvp (entirely different kind of game but still)
I did Ranked 3 times, never again. All 3 were +20,000 above me, like wtf? And those passive players are so DAMN ANNOYING! But, oh god, does it feel good to beat their asses and emote on them?
tried to play it, i am from south america, and it has 0 SA servers, its IMPOSSIBLE to play this game with 200+ ping spinking in 400, is just impossible i cant even see the hits
the lag issue ong bro, i dodge the m2's when i'm supposed to be perfect dodge but it just doesn't count, like, bro, what kind of bs is that. And to make it worse when my m1 animation starts they already perfect dodged.
lately when i dash back they get me with a m1 and i get infront their faces again, not only i wasted the little stamina i had but im getting punished for playing the game i would called it dash vaccum.
I started ranked a while ago and it is prob the worst ranked experience ive ever seen it bases you just off rank not by ko's,style etc so its possible for a 100 ko guy to get matched with a 1k ko hitman guy And my god i swear the game is just horribly optimised in general i live in Ireland and im always connected to a british server yet i swear my lag makes it look like im from asia And i know that i should have relatively decent ping because in any other game ive played that connect to me to a british server i only get about 25-35 ping on avg
Yes, I'm a hitman main, I play passive, yes, but when there's a guy who plays more passive than me or just waits for something to happen, I go for it without regret, like when I fought a hawk who was just waiting to throw the sway back but normally I play very aggressive using hitman, blocking and dodging and obviously strafing m1, I haven't seen the whole video yet and I just wanted to talk about it, I used the translator to speak here, I'm Brazilian and I understand a considerable part of English, I preferred to speak by the translator because exactly in the game I fight with people from the USA who, when they lose to me, act very toxic and mainly tell me to learn how to write and that bothers me a lot.
( you can say it's s a summary, but this is for DROWNING see the things that he actually needs to focus right now ) Main Fixes for the Game to be a actual good fight game: Balancing styles ( blud balance your game better ) Hitboxes ( put it to sync with the animation ) Passive players ( ForgottenXZ suggestion is good enough ) Ping difference supremacy ( if u make the animation sync with dmg and hitbox, maybe this will fix ) Fix after these ones Toxic Community ( This literally can be fixed with an actual good administration on the game's chat )
Idk if this can be implemented in roblox, but i remember some games had a "host" for internet, which made the host have good internet but others shit internet, so just make that but if 1 Player has shit internet, the other one should too
@@PIKIBURGERSo the host would be the one with the worst internet which would make the one with better internet have a reduction or a certain pairing with the host. Can work but I don't know if Roblox has this
The big thing about ranked is you can earn amazing titles and rewards however you also need to have a very good fighting style that suits best in your playstyle. The only problem is you go against passive hitman, back sway waiting game hawk, m2 spamming slugger and a very pro pdodger ghost and the lucky m2 puncher iron fist.....
I hate passive players, but feels super obnoxious and it has a really annoying gameplay, the people I hate the most has to be passive players and hitmen users
Damn I’ve been watching for a while and I never knew the community was like this. It doesn’t surprise me as a casual who’s seen games like this get very toxic communities but hopefully it can change man. Just gotta show these mfs who’s boss. Good video btw.
@@forgottenxz anytime, the struggle in games like this is real lol. Let it be smash, mk, or any other fighting game communities be wild. It’s a shame but as players we just gotta break through it all. Hang in there!
i love the game but yea the combat gonna need abit refining or other than that i still love the game since its really a hard work and passionate project by solo dev personally yea if a player was standing still in corner maybe give them a debuff or something but really sometimes felt like maybe theres something to stop this
I do agree about the passive thing. I've gained hatred towards long guard users, holy moly the fact that m1 is so quick and has large range is bs, i absolutely hate that style, and now freedom exists who has a mode that gives you the best dash in the game and speed boost is just basicly a game trying to catch a rock with your arms in a dark room.
Its safe to say that UBG is not a complete boxing game that's for sure because I've been saying this for a long time. 1. If two boxers refuse to engage, they both get a warning. If they did it again, disqualified, no rewards. 2. No feints. This is perfect for dash spammers who can't rely on their rxns (reactions) like any other fighters. Also, a perfect way to set up some combos if the opponent took the bait. I would definitely use the Ali Shuffle emote if downing is actually going to add that. 3. Add timers and a few rounds. 4 or 5 rounds because 12 rounds is too long lol. What else?
I'll list something that could potentially fix those: 1. Add a timer which when activated disables all dash except the front dash and enhance it slightly 2. This could work if you hold/press the button again when you want to release m1/m2 3. 3 rounds for casual/sparring and 5 for ranked with a 2-3 minutes timer each rounds. If you get knocked down thrice in 1 round you lose
I've made smurf accounts all around 17k-20k in ranked and I'll tell u this what mainly dominates ranks is hawk, ippo, and the new one freedom if u don't have these yea good luck everyone plays he same
They should make it so if you havent attack the enemy and just stand still for more than 10 sec the referee will come and yell box! And it will force both player to walk forward closing each other gaps and when box! Has been initiated both player will have same m1 speed
i completely agree, but how would the health depletion if your passive work? Because if say they dont hit you for 7 seconds, would YOU also not of hit them for 7 seconds also? So would both of your health deplete? Also yeah hitboxes suck ass, ping advantage is disgustingly crazy, and they need a fucking TIMER NOW
Fax pyro, the health depletion would be really like small, and very slow, the damage of 1 m1 every few seconds, if its like no combat and u were the last one to land a hit, you would be marked, and if you dont strike after 15 secondish you start losing health
So far i haven't really encountered toxic player in rank yet tbf though i just hit 11k elo though my major problem is unbalanced matchmaking and y'all know the average hitman user +runners now don't get me wrong i know passive players but avoiding confrontation is just annoying i dont want to quit though i love ubg way too much
....I don't know. I really don't know. I love UBG. The concepts are insane and hajime no ippo was one of the best animes I've ever watched in my life. Initially, I've been trying to adapt to literally everything. The toxicity, the new combat system, the playstyles. Hell, even my ping randomly shooting up to 400. I don't know why I'm trying so desperately to love this game. All I'm hoping is that drowning's team can fix their game before even a large fan like me starts to hop off.
Sadly at the rate we progressing highly doubt that anything will get fixed
isnt drowning a solo dev?
@@Pogchamp786 doesn't he have a balancing team?
@@dingsley18that shit isn't real
@@Damn.522 oh..... fuck
To be honest, for me, as a player who reached 20k and left a rating, this does not seem like something new, I noticed it and will notice it every day, I literally watched 4 or 5 people on one of the servers praying for the death of the mother of one good dude who did That's right and just came out ignoring them, the only thing that really annoys me is that this game, like many other competitive games not only in Roblox, will drag you into their toxic swamp, and you will become the same terrible toxic toad, sometimes when I log on to the servers they write to me - "Wow, you have 20k and streak is over 60, you're probably the god of this game" and all that, but when you remember how you were cursed for it, you don't feel like it's something meaningful, it's more like a stigma, in fact, if you have more than 16k - 18k, people won't want to fight you, because they understand they have no chance, and when they see your crazy Win Streak, they just admire you from afar and shun you in battle, I literally have to fight either very rare champions or newcomers who just entered the game because other people don't want to fight me. I would like to hide my rank.
bro just create an alt account it aint that hard, also as someone who is 22k I assure you not all people will run away from you if you can just talk
to them or say you want to spar with them, honestly it aint that hard
@@clintguia7984
It's really easy to create a new account, but then what is the point of my Main's existence when I can jump on twinkies and say that I am the god of this game. It's stupid and everyone will immediately understand that I'm a fucking smurf, I don't want to create a new account because I want to continue my journey from what I started, and not look for an excuse every time to turn left or right, it's banal to become a beginner who destroys champions. And how can I become a Smurf when I hate them so much myself.
As for the fact that I can ask a person to enter the ring with me, then it's a matter of taste and "honor" or something like that, I don't want to approach the conditional 16k diamond (because basically such people are the strongest after me on the servers) and ask him to come out with I am 1v1 knowing that the chances that he will win are about 20-40% because he still lacks experience, and as for the fact that I will give him a lesson with this fight, many do not absorb this knowledge, most simply merge saying - I did not have a chance or just hate me. So I would like people to come fight with me, just like that.
i agree with this, i am 19k and finding opponents in the casual game is nearly impossible as nobody wants to fight you besides other good players and new players
i@@melvin404 i would want to fight you
I’m sorry you had to experience this. But it’s important to know how experienced a player is before fighting him.
If you couldn’t then you would never know which player was good and which was god teir. And also, running into somebody who can pd every m2 AND m1 is not something somebody wants to deal with randomly.
How this games rank system is made seems more of describing how good you are and not how experienced you are.
They should change it to rounds played and NOT SHOW THE STREAK. streak hunters make me lose sanity tbh bro.
I think a better thing for Passive Players is for them to be unable to perfect dodge if they stand still, and the first hit they throw when they do goes slower than usual
That's actually a good idea
@@forgottenxzHow is it good?😭 You really expect drowning do some to your net or roblox servers? Low ping supremacy is a common thing on every single other games, so ppl's complaining bout it is mostly their own problems.
@@oshi_dae brotha u talkin about a whole different thing
The easiest way to fix passive play is by adding like 100 second timer that resets each time someone gets knocked, and if it reaches 0 it disables backdashing for both players until someone gets knocked
The first part is good the second part is half bad since aggresive playstyle gonna be bad while kepping the passive extra carefull
The ping issue is real. Got to 22k with 70-110 ping and the recent updates made me abandon ranked completely. I can't compete against styles like Hitman, Long Guard or Ghost.
I agree bro, like its just impossible to keep up, we barely get used to 1 system and it takes months, then drowning just messes it up completely and makes it favour the low ping players..
Like I saw it change twice and had go adapt, aint bothering a 3rd time
Ubg ranked is literally just "that would have been a perfect dodge if it was my ping"
@forgottenxz Literally, I learned patterns for literally every style because it was the only way I could ever keep up. And then I have to readapt because drowning unintentionally fucked it up too. I'm just so done with ranked I can't be bothered.
I am going to adopt hitman now.
Been hearing how good it is, and since I no longer have a main, might as well
I still play ranked since I do enjoy it and thankfully I haven't ran into to too many toxic players. However, runners are a major issue and they should do something similar to Anime Showdown where if no one takes damage for 10 seconds then you gain this dash that brings you to your enemy allowing for a lot of damage. This could stop runners since they wouldn't wanna be sneak-attacked by this all the time. Imma put this in the server and hope a lot of other people do as well and drowningsome listens
Good luck bro
Yes too much toxic and runners but i saw then only at low rank like 13-14k
I was playing against a wolf user sitting on 22k rank, playing passively and struggling to pd m2s
I used to play a game called boxing league, the hit box were awful it made UBG hit box look good
Exactly I loved boxing league, the gloves giving stats too and everyone having the same style
@@forgottenxz lol
I feel like new UBG combat systems is just flaw rn, drowning try to fix those issue but completely make the game unplayable. Wouldn't be better IF drowning makes those patch:
1. PD now have a cooldown, removed PD can only be done on the first dash of a sequence but the second second dash is more easier to punish or catch.
2. The buff m1s speed can only been applying if continuously attack once you begin to play passive those buff will gone and PD would be much harder to do plus easier to be catch, style that doesn't have a fast jabs would lose 5% m1s speed buff leaving them 5% speed buff but for style have fast jabs like hitman,long guard would completely lose 10% speed buff.
The game lacks mechanics, and players that say ''nah the combat is fine'' are most likely golden rank, if you are champion, diamond rank (20k), and actually fight good players, you can see the flaws of the combat being really limited, being that:
Agressive Playstyle has counterplay
While
Passive Playstyle has no counterplay
Agressive Playstyle counterplay is basically: Counter Playstyle, Perfect Dodges, and dodges
Passive Playstyle doesn't have a counterplay, and the best way to add a balanced counterplay to passive playstyle is adding **Feinting**:
Which encourages more Agressive fighting because Feinting would be a bait for dodges.
More controversial mechanic would be the Clinch, which in my pov adds more variety in combat, and doesn't seem overpowered if you try to balance it in your head
Yeah its gold mfs saying shit like all styles are balanced and etc
Well it got added and it still is an issue 😅
@@gamerpro6289faint suck…it too weak and consume too much stamina
I quit ranked the second I hit 23k and became astronomically worse at the game but atleast I'm having fun.
Literally not even ur fault, my skill was devalued to gold rating even though I'm at 23k as well, because drowning keeps on messing it up
people With Good Ping are like Katakuri And See A Good 1 second in to the future 💀💀
Accurate
As a low ping player myself I agree
In my opinion, a good ping starts from 70 and below, I play in this range myself, but there are times when I can't hit a terribly buggy Slugger with my 50-70 ping, at such moments I don't even know what to do. :/
120pings+😡😡😡😡
Brazilians with 200+ ping: yeah...
I have officially retired from ranked, my rank today is 18277, it will probably stay like that until something changes
Same bro
What they should do to counter passive play is add a rush mechanic to close the gap fast between you and your opponent
Fax
It’s funny how this is an actual issue. Some people sided with drowning here. You can't fix everything while adding new things to the game. We already know drowning is the only developer of the game.. he already stated that and people can't accept the fact that he can't fix everything all at once. "Just let him cook"
Yep
That’s why i stopped bothering with ranked a long time ago. I just enjoy myself on public servers with friends and strangers who’re willing to fight.
This part about ping is incredibly true, I'm tired of losing fights because my ping went from 150 to 200, fights that I would have won I lose because of ping, I just hate it so much.
I agree with every point stated in this video, I honestly just believes it comes down to the point where either the most passive/lower ping player wins. No matter how genuinely good you are at the game you cannot beat anyone with significantly lower ping than you or someone being too passive and runs away the entire match. I'm playing a boxing game not a tom and jerry simulator. Good video btw
Facts bro, tysm for watching the vid! Will keep up this typa content
Lmao Tom and Jerry simulator kinda fits well😂
I like UBG but majority times i get on and encounter few matches I just end up getting pissed off at the end or annoyed because of shitty hitboxes hitting me from a mile away even if i clearly dodge or block i just get hit, passive players. Just went against a ghost with bullet and I kept getting outsped by his m2s when i clearly hit with an m1 and I just keep getting hit because the guy was playing passive and i kept having bad ping that keeps randomly spiking.
I feel like to nerf passive play is a person NEEDS to throw a punch to actually initiate their PD or something because it just so annoying playing this game.
Also not to mention i love getting so many wins then lose 1 match in ranked and -200 rt and i need to do 2 or 3 annoying extra matches to get back where i started
You know... At the moment of the life of this game, I will put forward a petition that now - "your rank is a Stigma"
Because if you are gold or lower, you will be called weak, and if a diamond with 18k or more, no one will fight with you.
I am a player with an average 70-90 ping and I gotta say I have to literally predict 90% of the punches coming at me.
fax
I didnt know that people actually thought that all styles were fucking equal, probally the same guys to only use hitman and do m1 m1 m1 and walk back and repeat
Literally idk why everyone be saying that, like bro they aint equal
Actually, but ALMOST all styles can do this, Bullet, Long Guard, Iron fist, Basic, Ippo. The only ones who can't do this are styles that have a very small attack range, and very weak jerks, like Turtle.
@melvin404 Ik a ton of styles have this, it's just that with hitman this problem is even worse. For my personally I have a lower end device and my WiFi isn't too good, so I'm basically forced to play 100 ping, making perfect dodging like 100× harder. Like ping is defo gonna affect gameplay no matter what, but like Ugb takes this shit to a whole different lvl
Thats what ive been saying bruh. Drowning keeps adding these styles and yet ignore the game itself. Also the toxic players istg they just wait there in the ring and talk shit after
Facts
To me, balance changes cause styles to become unbalanced rather than balanced. I'm a main slugger and in the ranking I feel terribly nerfed because it doesn't seem fair that a long guard hits me from 3 kilometers and I can't do anything and also that the cooldown to dodge and the "buff to the dash" is ruining all
Someone finally spoke up about hitman/ passive players thank god to you sir
Np!
Real ( i lost to your hitman and went from 21000 to 20750 while getting +20rt per win )
Fair
I played ranked only to get a style slot without selling my kidney but i gave up since i kept running into the styles that beat my main + lag
Literally talked about it in the video, if u lag u cant compete in ranked cause others will out time you
@@forgottenxz yeah, i posted this comment at the start
i got style slot 3x on 1 acc tho
@@zeusnacion-gu1ki
And I can tell you how I "bought" a +slot for the "BEST PRICE":
Bat gloves from Hellowen create with effect.
60 spins
100k of money
12 lucky boxes and 3 lucky backs
+ another pair of legendary gloves.
Even though it was very stupid, but this game is not about trading, it's a game about battles... So for the most part, I don't care.
Disclaimer: this is (maybe) a rant
Just fought a guy named "mike tyson" something something in his name, and me using long guard. Of course bro was using ippo, which was fine. Then when we engaged bro was being passive in the first half of our fight. I thought "Wow this guy's being passive." Holding that block which kinda helps in perfect dodging is what he did, never even once started a clash, and me always being the one to start the bout. Had to use feint to even hit him. Then on second half of our fight he finally started a clash, of course I was off-guard (no pun intended) by that and ended up losing. And when we had a rematch I kinda tried using his passive strat calling it the "Waitress Mike Tyson" at that point in time. And wouldn't you know it, I actually got the upperhand and 1-0 that guy. Unfortunately I got disconnected cuz it was raining. So to conclude, like everyone is saying, ubg rewards passive play with no risks and not aggresive play which I think is more fun. When you encounter a passive, just leave, maybe try to win if you're good enough. Another thing I wanna say is that there is no "passive style", only "outboxer styles". Look at Thomas Hearns, an outboxer, in his fight with Sugar Ray, he was actively throwing jabs st Ray. And what about Ray? He was dodging cuz Thomas has more reach, trying to see an opening, which is truly more harder than reacting to the outline when punching.
Another thing is hiding rank. I played before the rank system's and people wouldnt wanna fight cause of my knockdown numbers. Now I'm not all that high I'm in that final stage for gold before I hit the next rank and most people avoid me if they arent Continental or higher. Or just a new player. I'll be in a lobby for mintues watching everyone fight except me. I got jumped by two guys who each lost to me individually after they jumped me. I used hitman so one of them changed to hitman and spammed me. So I just spun, got smash and he wanted to finally 1v1, he got cooked and they proceed to be toxic again. Like dude how you laughing at me cause I won?????? I just wanna be able to hide my rank as well.
Ngl they should add ping based servers (like if you have 100-200 ping you will join a server with people that have the same ping region as you, and if your 90-0 you will join a server filled with people that also have 90-0 ping almost constantly)
Ok ngl, who ever uses Hitman like that annoys, as a hitman user, you literally have good speed, great strength and defense, like what need do you have that you just stay in the corner and wait
fax
There are people that say all styles are equal? CRAZY
FAX
the thing is, you can train really hard as a kimura and beat a hitman. But as soon as they have they same amount of skill and they have a better style, you will lose 99% of the time
In fact, all styles are relatively equal in front of each other if you look at the characteristics, but when it comes to the fight itself, then the problems begin, take the same M1 spam from Hitman followed by running around, and Hawk with its terrible animation and just insane damage from Counter.
The most painful and biggest problem of styles is that they are all broken in some one area, which is why some styles can't even win others in theory, I'll give a happy strange example, but Turtle dominates Hawk if he plays well, because Turtle's block is incredibly strong, and Hawk's M1 damage the lowest in the game.
@@melvin404 Aint reading allat
I aint rading allat cap
Tbh, the first two reasons you gave are the main reasons why it’s impossible for me to play hands low aggressively
I’ve been playing this game since Hawk came out and I’ve been sitting on World Champion 1 for a while. I understand that the dodging update that drowning put out was supposed to nerf dodge spamming and make players less passive but to me I feel like ever since that update, players have been more passive then ever. Sure maybe people can’t backdash as much but that also makes forward dashing for more aggressive players (like me) not worth it. I feel like that update only supported more passive play rather than combating it and I’ve just been having a real struggle to have the motivation to play because it feels like the only way to win (in higher level matches) is to play more passive than your opponent otherwise I’ll simply be read and counter or perfect dodged. Dodging has also felt more sluggish to me ever since and it’s been really demotivating because I’ve gone from perfect dodging every attack (not dodge spam) to perfect dodging once in a blue moon.
Yea the dodge change made the game more passive in some part player who engaged are punished and they bear more risk,
Like why you want to punish player who want to finish a match in under 5 min instead of player who rope the match for 20 min straight.
As for My idea to fix this is add a timer just add a fucking timer for god if the timer of the match ran out back dashing will be disabled and front dash will be enchanced
As someone who played the game since wolf was realeased, the bad ending to this is that drowning might not care about doing something about the passive playthrough
I played rank only for the spin, you're more likely to get a style slot there. Also yes, hitbox is dogwater and can be quite annoying sometimes but we sometimes laugh it off because of confusion
It's been 5 months and some of these problems still exist
also im a handslow main, and I always try to initiate an attack first or if they are a hitman i immediately dodge bc hitman is so easy to pd
I was playing boxing league but i switched to this cuz its much less toxic I have barely seen any toxic players in this game, while in boxing league i play 3 matches whith 3 people and all of them are toxic and also there are levels in BL and the person whith higher level is just stronger whith no downsides cuz he has moves you dont have
Trust me, when you get good enough, people will split into 2 sides:
1 - They will curse you and hate you when they can't beat you.
2 - They will admire you from afar, not daring to enter the ring.
Yeah I used to no life boxing league shit was an acid pit
Funniest fact you forgot to mention :
"They wasnt making game for passive play" also them (Adding Hawk with instant perfect dodge which is more abuseable cuz it dont requires brain cells to tap A and D more than Spacebar)
YES BRO. I faced a long guard that kept running then wanna talk trash like bruh. Then when I complain about it on Discord, all the edgelords wanna say skill issue. Then if I clap back, I get banned 💀
You literally just described a perfect example of what im talking about in the vid
So true when i say it in discord everyone just says skill issue
@@topfary3272 Perhaps you really have problems with skills, but this does not negate the fact that, for example, when playing for the style of Counter against Hitman or Long guard, you simply will not be able to get them because of their monstrous attack distance, sometimes it really discourages you from playing if you cannot impose your style from the first seconds.
i appreciate you voiced my (and any other logical persons) views w the kimura n hitman thing and ykw man ranked is a CESSPIT i once wanted to get to undisputed and 20k was a milestone but everytime i got close a toxic sweat came in and took it from me. drowning needs to fix ranked and make it way more rewarding.
I used to play Ranked Mode, but I only played three matches and all of them were wins for me. The first match was me using Slugger against a Ghost user, the second one was me using Slugger against a Smash user and the third one was me using Hitman against another Ghost user. The reason on why I've stopped playing Ranked Mode is because some people are toxic fighters. I think there should be an update that you can fight against AI where you can choose the difficulty and style that the AI will be using. The difficulty affects the damage, aggression behaviour and health of the AI including increasing the money rewards if you defeat the AI.
I've have not seen another ranked entrace animation, Literally they don't Give nothing about It, they simplely forgot about It
my counter to passive players is just become passive as well. Eventually, the passive player loses patience then attacks
About the ping supremacy thing, I live in South America and roblox does not have servers there, because of that your ping will be way higher than other places, In my case the minimum ping i can get is 130, it is still playable but you can clearly see the difference when fighting someone with low ping, their m1,m2 and dash just works better and faster, when you reach 200 ping the game becomes clearly unfair, all your moves get delayed and way slower than your opponent, it doesn´t even matter the style, it feels like your moves are all linked to ping, so the higher you get, the worse it is, and when you reach very high amounts like 1k, it feels like you can watch a whole video while waiting for your m1 to land
YEAH! finally somebody talked about the problems of all games not only ranked
my biggest issues are passive players, instead of trying to get head to head with me i'd MOSTLEY win the battle not always tho , like HOW DO YOU EVEN MAKE IRON FIST AND IPPO CAPBLE OR PLAYING PASSIVLEY? HOW?
second ping like you said i play at leaset 160 ping nothing less and then i'll fall with hawk or a hitman yeah fuuuuun
cool combo tho , ghost jab into M1 string and ult , a classiC but still a cool one in my oppinion 6:42
I got u bro
you forgot to mention some wolf players, I had so many cases where people just stand there and hit you with double fang and spam that the whole game then stops as soon as you have very low health where you cant even recover, thats why Im still in prodigy.
Another problem is the slugger style as a whole, they nerf it, say they fix it, but it's a walking glitch that everyone exploits even on accident
I was fighting a slugger user with one of my favourite styles, Counter and i was countering him pretty well up until he started doing something, he dashed into my range and charged his m2, i attacked to cancel his m2 the second i calculated that his s were gone in the middle of the dash, we were basically 1cm away from each other, i jab and my jab goes through him as he fully charges the m2 and hits me, i try again and each time he always gets s during the whole m2 charge and even after the m2 is launched he has s
I main iron fist because i found out it's one of the best ways to check if someone is a fraud who is carried by their ping, device & fps or if they actually have what it takes to be their rank, even with my average 180-250 ping (sometimes 250-500 or completely spiking up to 1500), terrible fps, horrible phone (i can't buy a PC) and my lack of motivation even if i'm better and leave them at 1 hit i lose because the ping difference is too much
The "outboxers" are mostly all just trash who crumble under pressure yet the new mechanics and updates gave them a better way to run away, i have met outboxers who were worthy of praise for actually initiating fights then only moving away to analyze my in-fighting
So far this video covers all the reasons why i only sometimes enter emptier public servers to fight and chill in my private with friends, it's just more fun fighting actual equals who share your ping & device.
Now i just wanna have fun with my friends since my goal of becoming a champion is gone however i do have one goal which might sound dumb but i'll say it anyway, i wanna be able to improve more, to either get a PC to actually improve more since i can no longer improve on mobile, i wanna actually fight someone equal to me before i get fully bored and retire from the game, i wanna fight someone in an actually fair match, and whether i win or lose i won't care as just like Joe Yabuki (the GOAT) i would've burnt brighter than anyone else and turned to white ashes.
Sorry for being dramatic.
Dw bout it
@@forgottenxz I also forgot to mention that in-fighters are hella rare now since even in-fighting styles are being used passively & to outbox, in-fighting in the game has become so unviable (is that the word for it?) that every offensive style (except slugger because it's a walking glitch & smash because most smash users are built different) has to be passive or else they lose, and this all happened because people refused to use their hands and instead use their legs in a game about throwing hands
in my opinion i think they need to make it so when i dodge I ACTUALY DODGE that would make this game 10x better. also reduce how much hitboxes linger
Simply relatable
Hey. Vet player here. See, I’ve been playing since July, a month after the game came out, and I’m sitting at 16k on ranked. Why? Because I refuse to use hitman, long guard, or any of the braindead styles. I COMPLETELY agree that all styles aren’t equal. There are some busted styles that take little to no effort to use, and people use them on ranked. Another thing, your rank essentially determines your skill, according to the community. I find this patently false and completely untrue. I’m primarily a mobile player, and ranked runs like shit on mobile, so I refrain from playing it. Only time I play ranked seriously is on PC. I regularly play in casual servers, and I’d say I’m decent. But since I’m a ‘3k knockdowns at Gold’ I apparently suck.
Were in the same boat bro, Ive been playing this game simce day 1 pretty much, and I js refuse to give into hitman and similar..
They claim all styles are viable, but its pretty obvious they aint..
Number 4.
I have suffered this curse for months. Everyday I hop on this game I fight mobile players (my bretheren) and I can out skill them every time, might not win but I get a CHANCE against mobile players. The. One faithful hour I decide to play this game I run into a random dude with hitman who can perfect dodge shit that makes no sense.
WHY IS IT ALWAYS HITMAN.
i have no idea how drowning should fix wolf to fix wolf runner-spammers, that's literally unbeatable
Beat them at their own game
@@pavlo5551 there's no way im gonna become motherless monkey-clown
I agree on the hitman part bro, once you get matched up with a hitman and you have a ping above 100 your dead
I quit ranked when i went from diamond 3 to diamond 1 so i just play the main game and hunt for toxic people, ranked really wasn't for me and its always filled with toxic fucks and i completely agree with this video
W bro
In my opinion i like the idea of losing health if you play pasive, lol, and i would like to a be a thing in the game like the ps3 game, the stats,once a round end you check your stats like idk good force but bad speed for the punches like that will force to play in diferent moves, other thing its like whit a clock the ring becomes more small forcing the player to be agressive, other thing its like remove the pd that thing its the most powerfull weapon whir the 40 ping in the game like fr bro this its not a boxing game its a game that you need to trow the most pd to win thats all shesh
Valid bro
That's not just the perfect reasons to quit ranked, but quit the game aswell
ill be honest when u play ubg the ping will go high and low its like the ping is trolling you,next the style when u main ur own style and ur in the rank the movement will go slower everytime when u spam m1 and m2 all because of the ping this game need to be fix its like the game is trolling u alot
Been playing this game since slugger came out, And in my experience, I have encountered so many issues, One of the issues is the range, Like wtf do I have to even explain this 💀, People with a good range style could literally hit you 50 kilometers away😂, And probably your thinking, "just dodge forward.", well no shit Sherlock, The dashing in ubg is literally trash, To the point where you clearly dodge the hit, a mother fuckin damage will came out of nowhere, like wtf? - there's way too many issues on the game, and this 2 that I hate the most.
Here’s the problem is that even despite the passive players LITERALLY when you get to a point in the game where your good enough to dodge within a 5 second frame of expecting a punch your just standing there stalling the fight out waiting for the first punch from your opponent and it’s so dumb. The fact your STARING at them for a whole 6’s is stupid, don’t even get me started on Hawk mains who you can sit there for 8’d and still somehow PD the punch despite the fact YOU LITERALLY WAITED A WHOLE EIGHT SECONDS DOING NOTHING
Bro perfect ping is the most unfair thing on this game, me as an brazillian player i'm close to stop playing bcs someone from another region with perfect ping can destroy me in seconds, even if i have low graphics and perfomace mode on.
A guy that literally started today could almost make an 3-1 just using ippo, high ping with no brazillian server + trash hitbox= almost unplayeable
Bro i live in Brazil and sometimes i have 200-600 ping in a fight ☠️
I guess that the best way to get rid of passive players is just to add a "hit timer". Basically if they don't attack you for like 5-7 seconds, they will receive a warning and after like 3-5 warnings they will lose or something.
You probably didn't though about how it will affect other player who's trying to catch the runner, especially if he got first few hits on u and just started running
@@pavlo5551 oh, ye, totally forgot about that...
I never really had fun in ranked tbh I used to be diamond two until people started to develop horrendous passive play to the point I can’t even hop on ranked to have fun
The ping issue needs to be fixed, almost any mobile player can agree that with high ping, the game is really difficult to fight someone with decent amount of ping. I don’t want to pay a $1000 for a pc to just be better at a kids game. Hope they slowly fix ping over time. A good example would be AOPG. Almost unplayable for mobile players at first before the owner looked into it. After that no lag existed for a mobile player like me. They need to take time out of their day and focus on quality of life changes and fixes instead of updating the game for new styles and new mechanics, because that will make the ping issue worse over time.
I 100% agree with on that because evrrytime I join a server I'm getting like over 100 ping everytime I get into a fight. And it's making me slowly lose motivation for the game. If they fix this which I highly doubt they will I will return to this game
Thats the most funniest thing i saw, thanks man
Glad to hear man! Will keep up 🙏
I quit ranked after that one passive bullet called me spammer when using hawk....
Every time my matches for ranked is always those who slow m1s or dash spamming. I can't ranked up like that. Still stuck in gold 3
the fact they nerfed dashing legit ruined everything, i was top 40 in ranked on the first week of release and now i cant even parry any move.
I got almost all the check list...
Hitman? yes
Passive? idk
but at least I'm being polite and say gg everytime! even if I lose terribly
I dont haved that rlly strange experience as you, always its was not passive guyz, one thing its was brainded players on smash (now) and ghost (in past) and my ping 60-90 and i became world champion by high cost of nerves.
And yeah, that me, slugger champiom. 🤙
Me too man, im quit it 3 weeks ago.
I love how the only thing i was looking at was the Nah, Id Win text bubble throughout the vid
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I've sorta been on this downward spiral playing this game, my latest play session was just... terrible, all around even. Heck, when the game is all fine, I don't necessarily feel like Im having fun to the fullest, cuz there's just so many things about this game that can make or break this whole experience, I don't even know where to begin. Like, ping differences so bad, a lag spike can be considered a time stop for you and the opponent gets to destroy you in a split second. Hit boxes so nonsensical that styles that don't specialize in range (say ippo for example) can hit you while you take two steps back or so, or even the fact that you can be in breathing distance and still miss somehow w/out the opponent dodging away. Dodges and s that don't make sense, you'd believe you got out of the way safely but nope you got hit anyway (especially if you rubber band back into getting hit, god that just sucks), or how about getting pd by the opponent for whiffing a punch but you were already done missing but it still counted as a pd for some reason?
How about ults? My god man, what fun is there to use it while not at kill range, land it, and either get hit afterwards or having it completely wasted if you get knocked down immediately after cuz now the other guy has all his hp restored. At the very least, the VERY least, I can get behind getting hit by a fast style, cuz fine I guess that makes sense, but nope I guess any style even slow as a dang turtle is just plus on frames to wail on you afterwards.
This game at it's absolute worst is misery to play, and when it's "enjoyable" I don't even feel all that accomplished for wasting what could possibly be 10 minutes max of wasted time for myself and the other person. I liked the game for what it was before, and that experience of just playing with simple controls and no dumb, weird gimmicks like kicking the opponent but instead have gimmicks centered around what style you get was the more enjoyable experience of UBG, though to this day dealing with Hitmans and Sluggers are still a pain no doubt about that.
Overall, when worse comes to worst, to me UBG is the one example of why Roblox and pvp just doesn't mesh well together, top that with whatever game mechanics the game itself follows and essentially this game is as bad as XV2 online pvp (entirely different kind of game but still)
I did Ranked 3 times, never again. All 3 were +20,000 above me, like wtf? And those passive players are so DAMN ANNOYING! But, oh god, does it feel good to beat their asses and emote on them?
I just gotta love when the opponents I fight suddenly become hitman even though they’re a brawler style
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tried to play it, i am from south america, and it has 0 SA servers, its IMPOSSIBLE to play this game with 200+ ping spinking in 400, is just impossible i cant even see the hits
add some over heating like in real steal the video game where if you spam punches without thought you will be punished
by losing m1 speed and m2 speed
I laughed the hardest i ever had when i saw you describe conni from the discord server😭
Haters will say it aint accurate fr
Deadass perfect description tho
Doing combo backpedaling needs to be nerfed and punished is truly annoying
If all styles were viable ghost wouldn’t be getting nerfed into the grave
YOU SIR ARE VOICING MY OPINIONS AND I LIKE IT!
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Ayyy u out my brother in the video nice
I literally just quit ranked because there are STILL NO RANKED AUSTRALIA SERVERS
the lag issue ong bro, i dodge the m2's when i'm supposed to be perfect dodge but it just doesn't count, like, bro, what kind of bs is that. And to make it worse when my m1 animation starts they already perfect dodged.
Like bro its like I said, they PD before you even swing..
lately when i dash back they get me with a m1 and i get infront their faces again, not only i wasted the little stamina i had but im getting punished for playing the game i would called it dash vaccum.
I started ranked a while ago and it is prob the worst ranked experience ive ever seen it bases you just off rank not by ko's,style etc so its possible for a 100 ko guy to get matched with a 1k ko hitman guy
And my god i swear the game is just horribly optimised in general i live in Ireland and im always connected to a british server yet i swear my lag makes it look like im from asia
And i know that i should have relatively decent ping because in any other game ive played that connect to me to a british server i only get about 25-35 ping on avg
Yes, I'm a hitman main, I play passive, yes, but when there's a guy who plays more passive than me or just waits for something to happen, I go for it without regret, like when I fought a hawk who was just waiting to throw the sway back but normally I play very aggressive using hitman, blocking and dodging and obviously strafing m1, I haven't seen the whole video yet and I just wanted to talk about it, I used the translator to speak here, I'm Brazilian and I understand a considerable part of English, I preferred to speak by the translator because exactly in the game I fight with people from the USA who, when they lose to me, act very toxic and mainly tell me to learn how to write and that bothers me a lot.
( you can say it's s a summary, but this is for DROWNING see the things that he actually needs to focus right now )
Main Fixes for the Game to be a actual good fight game:
Balancing styles ( blud balance your game better )
Hitboxes ( put it to sync with the animation )
Passive players ( ForgottenXZ suggestion is good enough )
Ping difference supremacy ( if u make the animation sync with dmg and hitbox, maybe this will fix )
Fix after these ones
Toxic Community
( This literally can be fixed with an actual good administration on the game's chat )
Idk if this can be implemented in roblox, but i remember some games had a "host" for internet, which made the host have good internet but others shit internet, so just make that but if 1 Player has shit internet, the other one should too
@@PIKIBURGERSo the host would be the one with the worst internet which would make the one with better internet have a reduction or a certain pairing with the host. Can work but I don't know if Roblox has this
@@kaju7403 i doubt it does, but then those "ping dosent matter" enthusiants will feel the pain
Valid, I think the mods just don't care enough
@@PIKIBURGER they Don't know how s to play on 100-200 ping with more lag spikes than usual cuz u r a mobile
A passive style is required, it is a real boxing style called outboxing. I do not see him getting rid of it and I would agree
Its valid, but the thing is even outboxers sometimes have to engage first, they dont js stand in a corner for 30 min..
@@forgottenxztrue, outboxers are meant to punish every mistake you have while bring agressive (ex: mashiba in the anime) not running the entire match
The big thing about ranked is you can earn amazing titles and rewards however you also need to have a very good fighting style that suits best in your playstyle. The only problem is you go against passive hitman, back sway waiting game hawk, m2 spamming slugger and a very pro pdodger ghost and the lucky m2 puncher iron fist.....
Ranked iskinda same as gambling with ur emotions if u win u can win u be happy,if u lsot u actually sad but ur right.
I hate passive players, but feels super obnoxious and it has a really annoying gameplay, the people I hate the most has to be passive players and hitmen users
Yeah I agree I've fought toxic players with 30 pings this isso annoying bro
Damn I’ve been watching for a while and I never knew the community was like this. It doesn’t surprise me as a casual who’s seen games like this get very toxic communities but hopefully it can change man. Just gotta show these mfs who’s boss. Good video btw.
Ty man
@@forgottenxz anytime, the struggle in games like this is real lol. Let it be smash, mk, or any other fighting game communities be wild. It’s a shame but as players we just gotta break through it all. Hang in there!
i love the game
but yea the combat gonna need abit refining or other than that
i still love the game since its really a hard work and passionate project by solo dev
personally
yea if a player was standing still in corner
maybe give them a debuff or something
but really sometimes felt like maybe theres something to stop this
I do agree about the passive thing. I've gained hatred towards long guard users, holy moly the fact that m1 is so quick and has large range is bs, i absolutely hate that style, and now freedom exists who has a mode that gives you the best dash in the game and speed boost is just basicly a game trying to catch a rock with your arms in a dark room.
bro that fact that people are complaining about having 70 or 80 ping while im over here with a constant 150 ping. i just dont get it
Its safe to say that UBG is not a complete boxing game that's for sure because I've been saying this for a long time.
1. If two boxers refuse to engage, they both get a warning. If they did it again, disqualified, no rewards.
2. No feints. This is perfect for dash spammers who can't rely on their rxns (reactions) like any other fighters. Also, a perfect way to set up some combos if the opponent took the bait. I would definitely use the Ali Shuffle emote if downing is actually going to add that.
3. Add timers and a few rounds. 4 or 5 rounds because 12 rounds is too long lol.
What else?
I'll list something that could potentially fix those:
1. Add a timer which when activated disables all dash except the front dash and enhance it slightly
2. This could work if you hold/press the button again when you want to release m1/m2
3. 3 rounds for casual/sparring and 5 for ranked with a 2-3 minutes timer each rounds. If you get knocked down thrice in 1 round you lose
For the number 2 it simply cancels the m1/m2
For number 1 someone else has an idea where the more you walk backwards the slower you become or when you walk backwards you don't regen stamina
I've made smurf accounts all around 17k-20k in ranked and I'll tell u this what mainly dominates ranks is hawk, ippo, and the new one freedom if u don't have these yea good luck everyone plays he same
They should make it so if you havent attack the enemy and just stand still for more than 10 sec the referee will come and yell box! And it will force both player to walk forward closing each other gaps and when box! Has been initiated both player will have same m1 speed
THIS IS LITERALLY GENIUS
They should also add a dual exchange feature if possible lol
i completely agree, but how would the health depletion if your passive work? Because if say they dont hit you for 7 seconds, would YOU also not of hit them for 7 seconds also? So would both of your health deplete? Also yeah hitboxes suck ass, ping advantage is disgustingly crazy, and they need a fucking TIMER NOW
Fax pyro, the health depletion would be really like small, and very slow, the damage of 1 m1 every few seconds, if its like no combat and u were the last one to land a hit, you would be marked, and if you dont strike after 15 secondish you start losing health
So far i haven't really encountered toxic player in rank yet tbf though i just hit 11k elo though my major problem is unbalanced matchmaking and y'all know the average hitman user +runners now don't get me wrong i know passive players but avoiding confrontation is just annoying i dont want to quit though i love ubg way too much
OMG SOMEONE FINALLY SAYING MY TYPICAL PAIN IN UBG!! WOW
yep