Im just dropping by to tell you one thing - your channel is one of the very BEST, most useful and educational channels there are, at least regarding Linux, Servers and FOSS. Please, keep going. You are a great tutor and inspiration for all of us, UNIX/IT geeks.❤
love your work mr. Jay. Thanks for keeping high quality content updated and awsome. Ordered some of your shirts and ofcourse the cool tmux mouse pad. cant wait to get it 😁
Writing this on a mid-2014 Macbook Pro Retina 16Gig running KDE Neon Plasma 6.1. My 10-year old laptop feels like new - snappy, bright and stable. Instead of trashing it, the laptop feels amazing. Now my daily driver for Linux. My desktop is an M1 mac Mini. Waiting for KDE to run smoothly and stably on Mac Silicon. 😀
I've been using KDE Plasma 6 (Wayland) on my EndeavourOS install on my PC for about a week. Also on my vanilla Arch install on my laptop. In both cases, buttery smooth. No issues so far.
My experience is quite similar apart from strange artifacts with scrolling (I noticed them in Firefox and Konsole). It's like a split-second freeze and then the window is a bit blury and then it's updated and OK. Everything else is very solid and I like it. I have an AMD GPU and a 4k 120Hz FreeSync display with fractional scaling, so it could be the reason. If somebody knows how to fix it, please let me know!
Ordered the "sudo apt install coffee" shirt. I so wanted a "/bin/shirt", but it was just a link to "usr/bin/shirt", so I ordered that, too😉. Thanks, Jay, for all you do!
Nice work! Hopefully, you're going to do more of a long term review. I'd like to hear your thoughts. Looking forward to MX including it in their future updates....
7:30 I think you mean that the XOrg session is still available. Support for X11 apps via XWayland isn't going anywhere anytime soon and XWayland is still actively developed unlike XOrg, which will soon be deprecated in RHEL and Fedora 40 (for KDE spins) and 41 (for the main GNOME Workstation spin).
The RUclips channel, "explaining computers", has a video (posted either the 3rd of March or the 10th of March....it was his 1 million subscriber video). It details his capture setup, you can even capture when the computer is powered off. He doesn't use the capture card inside the computer....you should watch that video to see if it could help you.
The much improved add printer assistant is much more important IMO than new wallpapers. And of course the many Wayland fixes and other bug fixes. The less features added and the more bug fixed, the better.
Here 5 years before Microsoft "takes inspiration" from the kde6's floating taskbar. Im only joking. We should take inspiration from windows' design language.
@@cameronbosch1213 It "literally" doesn't. Never mind that KDE was designed to imitate windows. Don't be butthurt about software design. It makes you look like a moron.
KDE was my first Linux desktop 20 years ago. In between I was using also many other desktops but in 2016 I finally settled solely with KDE Plasma. Having used many other desktops professionally I can clearly say that KDE Plasma is on the long run the most feature rich, promising and easiest to work with desktop. The configuration and customization is a chore but you can export your settings what makes it much easier to configure KDE Plasma on a new PC.
The breeze theme still needs work for flatpaks. It takes some hacking around to make stuff look the way it should for flatpaked chromium based browsers. If they want to win over some Gnomies, theminig has to be consistent, and there should be a native option for dynamic workspaces.
It's great that desktop environments are evolving so much these last years. It's not my thing (I prefer simple window managers) but this could be great for newcomers and people who want something to work our of the box.
In my experience, kde plasma 5 was for me at least more organized, take settings for example, the settings side panel in kde 5, it was in my experience more organized with global themes starting at the top and everything else following below with nothing in the wrong places or hidden just made sense, mind you, since the update i lost many things, themes are all messed up, i lost my dock (latte dock), video wallpaper, my nvidia settings lol and sooo much more, with time hopefully they will get updated...... but there should be a way to not update, kde plasma 5 was a good thing, and the saying goes if it anit broke dont fix it, in the linux community it should be if it aint broke dont break it.... thanx for the video !!!
Ciao, thank you for your nice Video, which i like to share at telegram and at Tribel, i'm using KDE since Version 2, have created some Desktop Wallpaper for kde-look Website back then in the early 2000's, and in 2005? i've created some glassy Buttonsets for Konqueror Browser, cool times ❤️ as for today, i'm using Debian 12 Linux and Plasma 5, so i'm waitin' for Plasma 6, many greetings from brunswick in germany and please stay safe 🙃
No Kubuntu releases aren't including Plasma 6 until 2604. Although that's for LTS versions. I think they are using Plasma 6 in a point release near the end of this year. Plasma 6 just dropped and LTS needs more testing.
when I minimize dolphin the lef panel hides and I have to press F9 key to show it again. It has some bugs, lets hope Kde Neon fix this issues soon. Overall is a great Distro.
Main thing is all the theme/widget/etc. makers will need to update their stuff to work with Plasma6 which is going to take a while due to the sheer amount out there for Plasma5.
The customization that KDE plasma offers is excellent. I just wish they could change how KDE apps save files to $HOME/.config. It's like they decided they own that entire directory along the letter 'k'.
My work machine I'm running Kubuntu 23.10 and I'm loving it, but after seeing this I may move to Neon 6.0. From memory I was also a bit dissuaded following the release of 4, but 5 has been amazing and 6 looks fantastic.
I use EndeavourOS, basically with the Calamares installer, a GUI installer with a KDE Plasma live environment. It's based on Arch but uses the stock Arch repos in addition to installing Nvidia drivers and an AUR helper (yay) by default. It honestly has been really great. If you're comfortable using the command-line, then I'd highly recommend it.
I tried to use plasma 6 recently, its not much different from plasma 5, it did feel snappier though, especially on wayland, one thing that surprises me is that plasma doesn't have a built in output command plugin for the panel, so you have to rely on a third party plugin, but that currently hasn't been ported to plasma 6, but it wasn't long after I installed it I closed the systemsettings app and got a error message saying systemsettings has crashed would you like to send a bug report? and I thought to myself plasma is still buggy, so I went back to lxqt with kwin as the window manager, its like a simplified plasma without the bugs.
@@unnainconnu9098 I just tried it again a couple of days ago and it wasn't long before I experienced a bug, I logged in and got a black screen with a cursor, I want to like plasma but every time I try it I always encounter bugs, so my go to desktop is lxqt with kwin as the window manager, its kind of like plasma just without the bugs.
I use plasma and gnome. Plasma on my PC and gnome on my laptop. Plasma just feels more restrictive but also not really meant for laptops. They are getting there but it just feels a little bit like windows 8 trying to be touch friendly. Gnome is good enough but its not as configurable. But on a laptop, it looks and feels good. The gestures are just more responsive. The menus and top bar just feel more laptop/mobile friendly. I really want to just use plasma and tried it but it's not as laptop friendly and the gestures are slightly less responsive. I'm guessing this will change in time and I'm hopeful about the future of plasma.
Suggestion for T-shirt "Why not both?" And have Linux logo (any I guess?) and "Windows" logo. Assuming you can legally make something that people will get but also not get you sued.
what is an inexpensive (under $300) mini pc similar in size to an HP elitedesk or intel nuc with good compatibility for installing linux on to tinker around with?
not got any recommendation but generally linux is pretty well suited to cheaper/underpowered PCs due to less bloat and so on... that being said, you might want to look at refurbs / second hand laptops/pcs, as computers more than a year, maybe 2 years old, have a much better chance of not having hardware support issues. the most recent drivers for new machines e.g. for things like wifi and graphics arent always well supported.
Sadly, I was using KDE Neon when it updated to Plasma 6, and my whole computer became unusable after the upgrade. The ideas behind it seem good, but having that happen to me gave a bad first impression and led to me wiping out the computer and installing Fedora KDE. Hopefully Fedora's upgrade to Plasma 6 won't be a nightmare like KDE Neon was.
Not sure about that. KDE Neon allowed you to switch back to X11 as Wayland support can still be buggy (especially just after the release). But Fedora decided to remove X11 support with Plasma 6. If you liked KDE Neon, you could switch to Kubuntu, it's the same underlying system, but a less buggy (older) KDE version. KDE Neon is great to test the latest KDE, but you get the bugs with it especially after a major release.
@@unnainconnu9098 Yeah, it wasn't an X11 vs Wayland problem. I could choose both and tried both. The problem was after entering my login info that the system went black on both X11 and Wayland. You're right about KDE Neon, and I definitely learned that it's not good for a productivity computer.
I'm completly new to Linux. All I do on my PC is play games that don't need anti-cheat and I browse. I can't make my mind up for ease of use for a noob. KDE Plasma 6 or Linux Mint? Please help!
i didnt really get much of a sense of what changed compared to plasma 5. im using plasma 5 at the moment (on debian) and enjoy it and it doesnt seem like they've taken a big change from that, it seems like evolution over revolution which is nice. but i feel like the video focuses more on the defaults rather than its capabilities...
Thank you for making this video. I dumped desktop Linux in August 2011, moving to Mac. All these years later it's so nice to watch a video like this, to reaffirm why I never moved back. FWIW I work as a senior Linux admin and engineer, and I've noticed how so many admins moved away from Linux desktops to macOS, loved it and stuck with it.
@@cameronbosch1213 it certainly does not suck. Its a consistent desktop, aesthetically pleasing, and a joy to use. I remember using KDE 1.0, and onward, even compelling the entire KDE from source on SuSE. Sure I get why people want a Linux desktop. But while it will have its proponents - I'm an opponent.
Plasma 6 is ok but wasn't ready for release. Has way too many bugs on my laptop, hopefully this reinstall is good. On my PC is good. I can install hyperland and everything else and will work fine but P6 is no good at theoment. Have to reinstall every few days, and yes u ran mentest ram is good. And on noth my desktop keeps resetting, it seems to be ok on my PC now but you have to use a default theme or it goes haywire
Surprisingly, it's been better than Plasma 5.27 on my desktop with an Nvidia GPU. I'm not trying to downplay the KDE Neon bugs, but on Arch Linux at least, it's been close to rock-solid.
@cameronbosch1213 so my Desktop is not stable good to go. But my laptop has some strange issue so just reinstalled arch now going to scan memory for errors. It's only a couple years old but things happen Or it might be a good time to try Manjaro again on my laptop. Never know right?
I don't know why I love the floating panel so much, but I do. It provides zero functionality, just pure optics. But somehow it looks so cool and modern. 😂
Plasma 6 is somewhat both a big and minor release at the same time. Big, since it changes from Qt5 to Qt6, and minor, because you barely feel any difference. The latter can be seen as a sign of a successful transition to Qt6. Still, at this point after using it for some years, I am kind of disappointed in Plasma 6. Yes, there is a ton of ways to change and adjust something, but it always seems that 95% of the options are meaningless anyways. And what I would like to change sometimes is lacking on Plasma just as on any other DE. So I do not feel any difference between the DEs when it comes to customisability. Or there are things that you can change, but are unusable in the current state. E.g. you can place a panel at the top of the screen, but this is basically not usable in the standard breeze theme, cause it has a shadow at the bottom that then overlaps with any full screen window.
There's a design problem with that style of floating panel. It has to do with something called Fitts's Law. They talk about it in this episode of computerphile: ruclips.net/video/E3gS9tjACwU/видео.html The TL;DW of it being, the easiest place to hit on a screen, aside from a context menu (right click), is the edges. By moving the buttons just a couple of pixels out on a floating panel, it increases the relative effort a user has to put in for accuracy to hit that target (button).
@@maycherryblossoms And this is a good and bad thing at the same time. Good, because you have the same higher chance to hit the button like on a non floating panel. Bad, because it makes it obviously inconsistent that you can click next to a button and are able to activate it. So I would still say, that a floating panel is just a superficially "pretty" thing, that has inherently some issues in functionality that you just cannot "fix".
@@little_forest Which again is mostly resolved by the item highlight showing this extended hitbox clearly. This only takes noticing the highlight once, or overshooting the bar and not noticing as it works as expected. The buttons only shift vertically, collapsing the top and bottom margin and making the side margin visible. So all usability issues have been IMO adequately resolved, along with having an easy to find and understand toggle to disable it. And like with the Cube, the distinguishing factor causing techy people to notice and ask about it is more beneficial, even if this mostly happens at IT studies.
@@WyvernDotRed Still, as I said, inconsistent if the button works/highlights if you place your pointer next to it. And inconsistency affects functionality for the average user.
You made me do it you twisted my arm I'm trying linux just bought another hard drive to put it on to learn and hopefully switch away from the windows hell I have been living in.
6:40 And Zoom is part of the desktop effect and not part of accessibility settings. heh... Typical KDE community. Typical for not making accessibility the core part of KDE experience for those with visual disabilities.
Hello Linux people I'm sorry to take advantage of this video but I've a question to ask : I'm trying to convert my applefan girlfriend to Linux for obvious money reasons, do you know of a distro/desktop with ergonomics similar to those of apple? Also now I might try and get plasma 6 on my laptop it looks very nice
I think Plasma looks nice but I'm just overwhelmed with all the customization options and bells&whistles. As a person who likes simplicity I prefer Gnome desktop. I'd rather install needed extensions to customize my desktop than have hundreds on hundreds of different options.
So the "major" features of the 6 version is the new wallpaper, the cube effect re-introduction after 15+ years and that is more customizable. Oh wait. Its was already that customizable. What a "major" update, yeah
It was an update to Qt 6. Qt 5.15 was basically unsupported by Trolltech so they had to move to Qt6 ASAP. And it does bring enough improvements to Wayland with Nvidia GPUs that it basically goes from usable but very buggy to near perfect on my Nvidia RTX GPU. The panel freezes I had in Plasma 5.27.10 are gone in Plasma 6.0.1.
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Im just dropping by to tell you one thing - your channel is one of the very BEST, most useful and educational channels there are, at least regarding Linux, Servers and FOSS. Please, keep going. You are a great tutor and inspiration for all of us, UNIX/IT geeks.❤
love your work mr. Jay. Thanks for keeping high quality content updated and awsome. Ordered some of your shirts and ofcourse the cool tmux mouse pad. cant wait to get it 😁
Writing this on a mid-2014 Macbook Pro Retina 16Gig running KDE Neon Plasma 6.1. My 10-year old laptop feels like new - snappy, bright and stable. Instead of trashing it, the laptop feels amazing. Now my daily driver for Linux. My desktop is an M1 mac Mini. Waiting for KDE to run smoothly and stably on Mac Silicon. 😀
I've been using KDE Plasma 6 (Wayland) on my EndeavourOS install on my PC for about a week. Also on my vanilla Arch install on my laptop. In both cases, buttery smooth. No issues so far.
Same here. Even on my Nvidia GPU desktop has been greatly improved. On Plasma 5.27.10, the panels would randomly break. Not so on Plasma 6.0.1.
My experience is quite similar apart from strange artifacts with scrolling (I noticed them in Firefox and Konsole). It's like a split-second freeze and then the window is a bit blury and then it's updated and OK. Everything else is very solid and I like it.
I have an AMD GPU and a 4k 120Hz FreeSync display with fractional scaling, so it could be the reason. If somebody knows how to fix it, please let me know!
Great review! Thanks!
The stutter might also come from your monitor refresh rate, which is set at 30Hz.
Ordered the "sudo apt install coffee" shirt. I so wanted a "/bin/shirt", but it was just a link to "usr/bin/shirt", so I ordered that, too😉. Thanks, Jay, for all you do!
Fantastic content. Subscribed.
As I said elsewhere, everyone should contribute to this KDE 6 and ship it
👍Thanks Jay.
Nice work! Hopefully, you're going to do more of a long term review. I'd like to hear your thoughts. Looking forward to MX including it in their future updates....
I might try this out. This is a very cool desktop.
7:30 I think you mean that the XOrg session is still available. Support for X11 apps via XWayland isn't going anywhere anytime soon and XWayland is still actively developed unlike XOrg, which will soon be deprecated in RHEL and Fedora 40 (for KDE spins) and 41 (for the main GNOME Workstation spin).
The RUclips channel, "explaining computers", has a video (posted either the 3rd of March or the 10th of March....it was his 1 million subscriber video). It details his capture setup, you can even capture when the computer is powered off. He doesn't use the capture card inside the computer....you should watch that video to see if it could help you.
The much improved add printer assistant is much more important IMO than new wallpapers.
And of course the many Wayland fixes and other bug fixes.
The less features added and the more bug fixed, the better.
Here 5 years before Microsoft "takes inspiration" from the kde6's floating taskbar.
Im only joking. We should take inspiration from windows' design language.
Windows 11's UI literally looks almost exactly like a poor clone of KDE Plasma 5.27. That's shameless.
@@cameronbosch1213 It "literally" doesn't. Never mind that KDE was designed to imitate windows. Don't be butthurt about software design. It makes you look like a moron.
Great Video, wait for its release on a major distro, tried several time to build it but never been able to.
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if it weren't for KDE, I'd still be in Microshaft Winders. I'm just not fond of Gnome.
Same here. KDE has been great.
"Microshaft Winders." 😂
@@davey820051 You're both wrong. It's Microshaft *Winblows* 11: "Where do *you* want users to go today?"
KDE was my first Linux desktop 20 years ago. In between I was using also many other desktops but in 2016 I finally settled solely with KDE Plasma. Having used many other desktops professionally I can clearly say that KDE Plasma is on the long run the most feature rich, promising and easiest to work with desktop. The configuration and customization is a chore but you can export your settings what makes it much easier to configure KDE Plasma on a new PC.
OOooOoo I love the Tmux cheat sheet mousepad. I'm a huge fan of cheat sheets. 😊💡
Is autorotation of the screen enable on kde? With xorg or x11 works on gnome but not with Wayland
The breeze theme still needs work for flatpaks. It takes some hacking around to make stuff look the way it should for flatpaked chromium based browsers. If they want to win over some Gnomies, theminig has to be consistent, and there should be a native option for dynamic workspaces.
Virtual desktops are actually hidden in the Overview as well. You can press Meta+W and there’s a UI very similar to Windows
It's great that desktop environments are evolving so much these last years. It's not my thing (I prefer simple window managers) but this could be great for newcomers and people who want something to work our of the box.
So how to fix this white line issue on fedora kde
In my experience, kde plasma 5 was for me at least more organized, take settings for example, the settings side panel in kde 5, it was in my experience more organized with global themes starting at the top and everything else following below with nothing in the wrong places or hidden just made sense, mind you, since the update i lost many things, themes are all messed up, i lost my dock (latte dock), video wallpaper, my nvidia settings lol and sooo much more, with time hopefully they will get updated...... but there should be a way to not update, kde plasma 5 was a good thing, and the saying goes if it anit broke dont fix it, in the linux community it should be if it aint broke dont break it.... thanx for the video !!!
Plasma 6 is amazing! I can't wait for Fedora 40 to be released ;)
Same :)
Already upgraded to fedora 40 myself. I wasn't waiting lol.
@@kolz4ever1980 Did you install a nightly build?
Thank you! Greetings from Michel in the French Alps!
Same.
Ciao, thank you for your nice Video, which i like to share at telegram and at Tribel, i'm using KDE since Version 2, have created some Desktop Wallpaper for kde-look Website back then in the early 2000's, and in 2005? i've created some glassy Buttonsets for Konqueror Browser, cool times ❤️ as for today, i'm using Debian 12 Linux and Plasma 5, so i'm waitin' for Plasma 6, many greetings from brunswick in germany and please stay safe 🙃
Will Kubuntu 24 set this as default?
No, Kubuntu is garbage, especially because of Snaps!
@@Daniel-wn5ye What? I run Kubuntu and I like it a lot.
No Kubuntu releases aren't including Plasma 6 until 2604. Although that's for LTS versions. I think they are using Plasma 6 in a point release near the end of this year. Plasma 6 just dropped and LTS needs more testing.
when I minimize dolphin the lef panel hides and I have to press F9 key to show it again. It has some bugs, lets hope Kde Neon fix this issues soon. Overall is a great Distro.
I use Fedora 39 .... how can I install it?
Install Fedora 40. It's in testing now and almost ready to be released.
Main thing is all the theme/widget/etc. makers will need to update their stuff to work with Plasma6 which is going to take a while due to the sheer amount out there for Plasma5.
The customization that KDE plasma offers is excellent. I just wish they could change how KDE apps save files to $HOME/.config. It's like they decided they own that entire directory along the letter 'k'.
There's a bug about that, it will get fixed as soon as someone minds more about that than about other bugs.
Hot corners are not working in VM
What distro(s) did you use? I quit using KDE when release 4 hit.
My work machine I'm running Kubuntu 23.10 and I'm loving it, but after seeing this I may move to Neon 6.0. From memory I was also a bit dissuaded following the release of 4, but 5 has been amazing and 6 looks fantastic.
I use EndeavourOS, basically with the Calamares installer, a GUI installer with a KDE Plasma live environment. It's based on Arch but uses the stock Arch repos in addition to installing Nvidia drivers and an AUR helper (yay) by default.
It honestly has been really great. If you're comfortable using the command-line, then I'd highly recommend it.
KDE 4 was a mess upon release. KDE Plasma 6 couldn't be more different to 4.
I've always loved plasma but in the past my PC has been to slow for it
Did you try disabling composition (those animations may look nice at first, but they actually just add a delay) and using zram-generator?
I tried to use plasma 6 recently, its not much different from plasma 5, it did feel snappier though, especially on wayland, one thing that surprises me is that plasma doesn't have a built in output command plugin for the panel, so you have to rely on a third party plugin, but that currently hasn't been ported to plasma 6, but it wasn't long after I installed it I closed the systemsettings app and got a error message saying systemsettings has crashed would you like to send a bug report? and I thought to myself plasma is still buggy, so I went back to lxqt with kwin as the window manager, its like a simplified plasma without the bugs.
It's better to wait before trying a new release unless you want to help reporting bugs. Many bugs get reported and fixed in the first few weeks.
@@unnainconnu9098 I just tried it again a couple of days ago and it wasn't long before I experienced a bug, I logged in and got a black screen with a cursor, I want to like plasma but every time I try it I always encounter bugs, so my go to desktop is lxqt with kwin as the window manager, its kind of like plasma just without the bugs.
I use plasma and gnome. Plasma on my PC and gnome on my laptop. Plasma just feels more restrictive but also not really meant for laptops. They are getting there but it just feels a little bit like windows 8 trying to be touch friendly. Gnome is good enough but its not as configurable. But on a laptop, it looks and feels good. The gestures are just more responsive. The menus and top bar just feel more laptop/mobile friendly. I really want to just use plasma and tried it but it's not as laptop friendly and the gestures are slightly less responsive. I'm guessing this will change in time and I'm hopeful about the future of plasma.
hello frens i am on linux mint XFCE and itchy to try debian 12 with KDE. any tips for linux noob as myself?
Hi there! Is there any way to get back Dolphin copying/moving progress in separate window?
If plasma desktop session not running it gets back
Can't use a blank panel as a dock no more with this version. That's too bad...
Nice excursion...I on Mate or xfce...
May I request you a video on,
Rocky Linux Minimal with KDE?
Thank you. 😊
Suggestion for T-shirt "Why not both?" And have Linux logo (any I guess?) and "Windows" logo. Assuming you can legally make something that people will get but also not get you sued.
Kubuntu is pretty darn good.
what is an inexpensive (under $300) mini pc similar in size to an HP elitedesk or intel nuc with good compatibility for installing linux on to tinker around with?
not got any recommendation but generally linux is pretty well suited to cheaper/underpowered PCs due to less bloat and so on... that being said, you might want to look at refurbs / second hand laptops/pcs, as computers more than a year, maybe 2 years old, have a much better chance of not having hardware support issues. the most recent drivers for new machines e.g. for things like wifi and graphics arent always well supported.
sudo zypper remove coffee
🤣
I hoped for new look,round corners and others.I think open kylin looks better
Sadly, I was using KDE Neon when it updated to Plasma 6, and my whole computer became unusable after the upgrade. The ideas behind it seem good, but having that happen to me gave a bad first impression and led to me wiping out the computer and installing Fedora KDE. Hopefully Fedora's upgrade to Plasma 6 won't be a nightmare like KDE Neon was.
Not sure about that. KDE Neon allowed you to switch back to X11 as Wayland support can still be buggy (especially just after the release). But Fedora decided to remove X11 support with Plasma 6.
If you liked KDE Neon, you could switch to Kubuntu, it's the same underlying system, but a less buggy (older) KDE version.
KDE Neon is great to test the latest KDE, but you get the bugs with it especially after a major release.
@@unnainconnu9098 Yeah, it wasn't an X11 vs Wayland problem. I could choose both and tried both. The problem was after entering my login info that the system went black on both X11 and Wayland. You're right about KDE Neon, and I definitely learned that it's not good for a productivity computer.
I'm completly new to Linux. All I do on my PC is play games that don't need anti-cheat and I browse. I can't make my mind up for ease of use for a noob. KDE Plasma 6 or Linux Mint? Please help!
i didnt really get much of a sense of what changed compared to plasma 5. im using plasma 5 at the moment (on debian) and enjoy it and it doesnt seem like they've taken a big change from that, it seems like evolution over revolution which is nice. but i feel like the video focuses more on the defaults rather than its capabilities...
Thank you for making this video. I dumped desktop Linux in August 2011, moving to Mac. All these years later it's so nice to watch a video like this, to reaffirm why I never moved back. FWIW I work as a senior Linux admin and engineer, and I've noticed how so many admins moved away from Linux desktops to macOS, loved it and stuck with it.
macOS sucks now. Such a backwards user interface for window management and hardware exclusivity.
@@cameronbosch1213 it certainly does not suck. Its a consistent desktop, aesthetically pleasing, and a joy to use. I remember using KDE 1.0, and onward, even compelling the entire KDE from source on SuSE. Sure I get why people want a Linux desktop. But while it will have its proponents - I'm an opponent.
@@diablobarcelona Then why can't Apple get menu bar items with a notch right? Why can't they get window management right?
Video starts at 4:09
Plasma 6 is ok but wasn't ready for release. Has way too many bugs on my laptop, hopefully this reinstall is good. On my PC is good. I can install hyperland and everything else and will work fine but P6 is no good at theoment. Have to reinstall every few days, and yes u ran mentest ram is good.
And on noth my desktop keeps resetting, it seems to be ok on my PC now but you have to use a default theme or it goes haywire
Surprisingly, it's been better than Plasma 5.27 on my desktop with an Nvidia GPU. I'm not trying to downplay the KDE Neon bugs, but on Arch Linux at least, it's been close to rock-solid.
What CPU & GPU are you using?
@cameronbosch1213 interl i5 12th gen and an RTX 4070 ti. Sorry been away
@cameronbosch1213 so my Desktop is not stable good to go. But my laptop has some strange issue so just reinstalled arch now going to scan memory for errors. It's only a couple years old but things happen
Or it might be a good time to try Manjaro again on my laptop. Never know right?
@rarrie9123 That's weird, my RTX 4090 system has been better with Plasma 6... Hope they keep at it with the patches!
If thé update from plasma 5 to plasma 6 didn't break my desktop I would be happy to try it...😢
I don't know why I love the floating panel so much, but I do. It provides zero functionality, just pure optics. But somehow it looks so cool and modern. 😂
Plasma 6 is somewhat both a big and minor release at the same time. Big, since it changes from Qt5 to Qt6, and minor, because you barely feel any difference. The latter can be seen as a sign of a successful transition to Qt6.
Still, at this point after using it for some years, I am kind of disappointed in Plasma 6. Yes, there is a ton of ways to change and adjust something, but it always seems that 95% of the options are meaningless anyways. And what I would like to change sometimes is lacking on Plasma just as on any other DE. So I do not feel any difference between the DEs when it comes to customisability. Or there are things that you can change, but are unusable in the current state. E.g. you can place a panel at the top of the screen, but this is basically not usable in the standard breeze theme, cause it has a shadow at the bottom that then overlaps with any full screen window.
There's a design problem with that style of floating panel. It has to do with something called Fitts's Law. They talk about it in this episode of computerphile:
ruclips.net/video/E3gS9tjACwU/видео.html
The TL;DW of it being, the easiest place to hit on a screen, aside from a context menu (right click), is the edges. By moving the buttons just a couple of pixels out on a floating panel, it increases the relative effort a user has to put in for accuracy to hit that target (button).
I thought the hitbox extends beyond what you can see.
It doesn't violate that law because the clickable area of each element extends beyond the edge of the menu
@@maycherryblossoms And this is a good and bad thing at the same time. Good, because you have the same higher chance to hit the button like on a non floating panel. Bad, because it makes it obviously inconsistent that you can click next to a button and are able to activate it.
So I would still say, that a floating panel is just a superficially "pretty" thing, that has inherently some issues in functionality that you just cannot "fix".
@@little_forest Which again is mostly resolved by the item highlight showing this extended hitbox clearly.
This only takes noticing the highlight once, or overshooting the bar and not noticing as it works as expected.
The buttons only shift vertically, collapsing the top and bottom margin and making the side margin visible.
So all usability issues have been IMO adequately resolved, along with having an easy to find and understand toggle to disable it.
And like with the Cube, the distinguishing factor causing techy people to notice and ask about it is more beneficial, even if this mostly happens at IT studies.
@@WyvernDotRed Still, as I said, inconsistent if the button works/highlights if you place your pointer next to it. And inconsistency affects functionality for the average user.
You made me do it you twisted my arm I'm trying linux just bought another hard drive to put it on to learn and hopefully switch away from the windows hell I have been living in.
Honestly man i dont care for wall papers that much. I set a plain black screen as the wall paper 😂
KDE needs computer icon to desktop
looks the same to me 😂
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1:16 so you like plasma because you don't have nvidia. :) that's the end of it. :)
Did they finally fix the memory leak in plasma that's been there for years?
Which one?
6:40 And Zoom is part of the desktop effect and not part of accessibility settings. heh... Typical KDE community. Typical for not making accessibility the core part of KDE experience for those with visual disabilities.
Hello Linux people I'm sorry to take advantage of this video but I've a question to ask :
I'm trying to convert my applefan girlfriend to Linux for obvious money reasons, do you know of a distro/desktop with ergonomics similar to those of apple?
Also now I might try and get plasma 6 on my laptop it looks very nice
How did I got pinned?
I think Plasma looks nice but I'm just overwhelmed with all the customization options and bells&whistles. As a person who likes simplicity I prefer Gnome desktop. I'd rather install needed extensions to customize my desktop than have hundreds on hundreds of different options.
Buggy AF
Everything upgraded except your wig. 😂❤
Still not sold. Gnome for the win.
Gnome is soo good. Kde has no comparssion. Still looks a little bit ugly for me
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I prefer the Breeze theme, but GNOME's workflow works better for me (after I modify it with extensions)
@@ryebread095If it works for you, that's fine. I don't like GNOME's workflow, hence why I use KDE Plasma.
So the actual look starts at 4 minutes into the video... Thanks for wasting 4 minutes of my time!!!
Away and throw shite at yourself.
So the "major" features of the 6 version is the new wallpaper, the cube effect re-introduction after 15+ years and that is more customizable. Oh wait. Its was already that customizable. What a "major" update, yeah
It was an update to Qt 6. Qt 5.15 was basically unsupported by Trolltech so they had to move to Qt6 ASAP. And it does bring enough improvements to Wayland with Nvidia GPUs that it basically goes from usable but very buggy to near perfect on my Nvidia RTX GPU. The panel freezes I had in Plasma 5.27.10 are gone in Plasma 6.0.1.
Color management and HDR support are major features!
Especially since KDE Plasma is the first DE to bring them on Linux.