Flying the New VIRGIN AUSTRALIA 737 MAX 8 to Tokyo 🇯🇵
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- G’day, my name is Jayden, welcome back to my channel! In March 2024, I flew Virgin Australia Boeing 737 MAX 8 in economy class from Adelaide to Tokyo with connecting flights via Melbourne and Cairns. I used my Virgin Australia status for perks such as priority check-in and lounge access. Enjoy the video & thank you so much for watching!
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What you'll see in this video:
00:00 Intro & Adelaide-Melbourne
02:36 Melbourne to Cairns
04:52 Cairns Airport
06:26 Boarding flight VA77
06:57 Seat 14F & features
08:20 Passenger announcement (PA)
09:24 Takeoff
10:45 PA
12:13 Moved to row 16
12:34 Inflight service #1
13:45 Inflight service #2
14:28 Lavatory tour
15:24 Conclusion & landing
13:22 Landing
20:10 Tokyo vlog
Future flight reviews include:
- Asiana B747-400 Seoul to Taipei (economy class)
- Cathay Pacific A330-300 Hong Kong to Hangzhou (business class)
- Finnair A330-300 Singapore to Sydney (economy class)
- Fiji Airways A330-200 Nadi to Tokyo Narita (business class)
- Firefly ATR 72-500 Subang to Singapore Seletar (economy class)
- Icelandair B737 MAX 8 Keflavik to London Heathrow (economy class)
- Japan Airlines B767-300 Tokyo Haneda to Osaka Itami (economy class)
- Jetstar Japan A320-200 Fukuoka to Nagoya (economy class)
- Juneyao Air A321 Nagoya to Shanghai Pudong (economy class)
- KLM B737-900ER Rome to Amsterdam (economy class)
- Qantas A380 Sydney to Los Angeles (business class)
- Qatar Airways B777-300ER Hong Kong to Doha (business class)
- Turkish Airlines B777-300ER Istanbul to Kuala Lumpur (business class)
… and more, so stay tuned!
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The 737-8 Max is truly an amazing aircraft, who would ever thought a narrow body aircraft could fly such long flights 8hours on a narrow body is insane!
Glad the wings didn't fall off!
lol I was expecting a comment like this
Shhhh, u may be suicided if ur too loud.
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@@JaydenWong ha it had to be made.
Lovely VIRGIN has improved...
Great video Jayden! I always love following your journeys both on and off the plane!
thanks Karl :)))
Thank you very much for this Jayden!
my pleasure, thanks Andrew!
Great video, Jayden! What a long day to get to Tokyo. Glad things went smoothly other than your luggage deciding to spend an extra day in Australia. You’re a brave man to schedule a 30 minute connection on an international itinerary. 😊 Looks like you had a wonderful crew on the flight to Tokyo. I love Dinh’s comment at the end about being early and if you’re on another flight that’s late, we’ll just call it even. 😂 Hope you had a great time in Tokyo,
You got Dinh (FA) on the Japan route! He's a VA star :)
he absolutely is!!
I’m not sure that eating baked beans before flight is a good idea 😂😂😂
Great vid Jayden. Keep it up 👍
thank you!! :)
I enjoyed you and your video very much.
Liked how you edited the first two fights, in particular. Moving things along nicely.
You just keep getting better.
Thanks Jayden.
Thanks Stevo🤗🤗🤗
@@JaydenWong
Welcome JayWo. 😊
Great video Jayden!! You are always flying! What video will be next weeks flight review??
Turkish airlines
butifull another amazing video
thank you!! :)
Amazing video Jayden good to see you come back to Cairns to vlog this newish route! Looks like the VA MAX is quite nice and I have booked a trip in May to fly down to Brisbane on one since I’m too poor to fly all the way till Tokyo. Also on a side note, really love your cinematography skills there, the especially the zoom into the wing with the nice lighting from inside the cabin!
thanks for watching, glad you liked my filming! You'll like their MAX :)
i just love travelling with you thanks for sharing greetings from the netherlands
Brave boy...flying the killer machine😮
That brought back memories for me seeing Cairns Airport. In the mid nineties I flew there on JAL's 747-200 from NRT (a flight that continued on to Sydney). Stayed in Palm Cove for a week. Those were the days!
Ah last time I was in Cairns for a visit in 2020 I stayed in Palm Cove too. Nice, quiet area :)
What an adventure !
Brave Man!
For some reason those meal you ate made me hungry jayden gashhh lovely trip review cheers 🥂
ahaha thanks for watching mate!
Awesome video Jayden, I love having an insight into Virgin Australia, especially a 7 hour flight on a 737-max! Longest 737 flight I've down is 4 and a half hours, I don't know if I could handle 3 more!
haha on this flight it wasn't that bad at all! Due to payload restrictions the flight always has empty seats.
Hi Jayden, just subscribed your channel.😀
I am also fan of xx airways,seat maps, flight configurations …
Great videos
Cheers!
thank you so much!! :)
Omg loved the Japan vlog! 🎉 And you are back in Japan again! Hehe😊
again later this month, this flight was spontaneous haha. Next trip was booked a while ago haha
@@JaydenWong please enjoy yourself! Japan is my fav country 😊
Wow, so much packed into this episode! Such a nice flight crew on the way to Tokyo! Nice to see Odaiba Marine Park with the miniature Statue of Liberty. I almost forgot about this area in Tokyo. (I was there nearly 15 years ago). I love that you shared your purchase at UniQLO. Good stuff! 😉
haha yes, only my second time there ever, last time was 2007!
Wow! So fun. Even my friend who was just there too watched this....usually I can't keep his attention. haha @@JaydenWong
Great video! Keep up the good work and fliy from Delhi to melbourne on Qantas
thanks for watching!
Hey Jayden 👋
Thanks for 3 awesome trips. Loved the crew and the seats in the VA to Haneda looked very comfortable. The food looked tasty and not too expensive 😋
Really sucks about your baggage 🧳 not getting there in time 😢
Cute staff at Starbucks 😍 lol 😆
Great Vlog as always stud. Looking forward to the A380 and 747 trip reports when you upload them. Cheers from Adelaide 👋🤗
Hello from Adelaide! My last week here :(
Moving out on Thursday. Thanks for watching!
@@JaydenWong Gonna miss you being here 😢 Have fun at home. And visit often 🌹❤️🥰
Great trip report! I like the unusual routing from Adelaide to Japan. Interesting flight from Cairns to Tokyo on the MAX as well. Got excited to see the Royal Brunei 787 at 3:34. Used to live in Brunei for a few years in my childhood. Have you tried them yet?
nope haven't had the chance, almost booked them from MEL-HKG last year but decided to book Scoot instead (but then when I hadn't tried both haha)
The crew was amazing and lovely ❤❤❤❤🎉
they were!!
yoooo!!! good stuff! the plane is always relatively empty since the flight range is very very close to the max range. Love the triple review!
thanks :)
Hi Jayden, I’m not surprised your luggage didn’t make the next flight to Cairns. I’ve learnt through my own experience, that if you have less than 1.5 hours between flights, you have a very slim chance of your luggage making it. As you’re aware, boarding gate closes about 15 min before departure, which usually means final luggage has been loaded 20-30 mins before the boarding gate closes. A few years back I had a cancelled flight from FRA to BKK, as there were heavy storms in FRA that afternoon. So I got diverted to MUC, then onwards to AMS to catch an EVA air flight to BKK. I had a 30 min transit between MUC -AMS, then a 60 min to get from the non Schengen area to international departures at AMS, and barely made the flight.mind you, my baggage did not arrive until the following day after I arrived in BKK. Lastly, I could not handle a flight of more than 5 hours without any IFE, so I don’t know how you or any other passengers would have survived it. I wonder if you would have been better off going with Jetstar in a B787 where you get IFE - even though you have to pay extra for it…
haha yeah, sadly I had no choice. Adelaide thing. You catch the first flight after curfew which is 6am to the east coast, and you have limited time to catch your next flight. Qantas/oneworld parters are the exact same if you go from Adelaide- Sydney/Melbourne - Asia/USA/NZ/South America
Prior to covid, I had never visited the Qantas international lounges in SYD and MEL for that reason, never had time. Recently I went only because I slept the night in Sydney/MEL
OMG JAYDEN,
You keep calm and always smiling without your luggage. Transit flights takes so much energie from the passenger and missing your luggage would make me crazy.😅
If the airport logistics strike, then we take mostly handbagage with only the necessary needs. But I can imagine it's not easy if you have to take much more devices. Thanks for sharing.
Japanees crew were very engaged and friendly. Great vlog!👌👍🙏
Thanks for the great video. I couldn't do a 737 on such a long route. I uaed Jetstar 788 all the time when I lived in Cairns to go to Japan.
Some are making similar comments here in Europe and the US. As you may know more and more carriers are deploying narrow-bodies on transatlantic routes. But any negative feedback doesn't seem to affected JetBlue's carrying ..maybe because it provides superior onboard service (compared to the big boys).
Is same for Cairns To osaka
JetBlue's mint class is stunning, I wish VA had that!
Impressive video Jayden and this Virgin Australia Max 8 needs TV screen and AC plug like a United B737 Max 8 which are equipped with Both. Had Virgin Australia went with that option then it's the proper setup for CNS-HND and also Transcontinental flights PER-SYD/BNE/CNS. 16:37 that might be the runway that JL516 crashed or the runway you're landing in. 19:58 Try the QF A330-303X or A330-203. I wonder what was the return trip
The cabin crew on this flight are so charming, lovely and beautiful 😂😂😂😂
Our cabin manger Dinh is a honey ❤
And the arrival announcement was so funny and creative 👏
it was the sweetest flight ever haha
Nice video, and given the ongoing Boeing saga…..brave man.
hahaha thanks!
After 2000 flights we all have stories.
My best baggage transfer was in J from Okinawa to HKG via TPE on the last flight of the day with a 5 minute transfer and they waited for a few minutes to load baggage and arrived. Well done CI.
As working in HKG and apartment I had clothes but still impressed.
Wow good on them indeed! Thanks for sharing :)
i am heading to KOREA this coming fall....hope to get to JAPAN during that trip
Nobody sitting next to you in economy class is like free upgrade and it’s AMAZING.
agreed!
Welcome to Japan Jayden!
Arigato!! Greetings from Hiroshima :)
Amazing video as always Jayden 😊 Did you photoshop the meal into the thumbnail 😂😂
No!! Although it did look it. The second meal didn’t come with a tray😂
Hey Jayden
When you were in Melbourne taxiing past Rex VHMFM if you were filming just a bit earlier you would of spotted me
Dam never flown virgin but your reports are really good
thanka :))
Good Morning from Germany 🇩🇪. Perfect Start in the Day!!!! Coffee ☕️ and Jayden👍. Stay Safe and Healthy 🙏🙏. Best wishes to 6,4
Greetings from Ho Chi Minh City :)) Very hot here today, 36c, have a good day :)
23:44... That build-up to that, and the moment of "aahhhh!" made me laugh! Does 6'4" know about this? 😂
I think so, I would hope he watches my videos 🤣
THIS IS INCREDIBLE! It's time to try VA but they don't fly from London! I really enjoyed this vlog and you had Dinh along with a wonderful crew, this must've been amazing! His professionalism announcements and style is slick and amazing to see as I feel I will Never have the opportunity to fly with him! This flight albeit 7 hours on a 737 wouldn't put me off. Enjoy your travels and keep the footage coming! 👍
And it won't fly from London as it's a franchise operation.
I hope VS and VA bring back Australia-London flights! Can do if VS fly to HND or as far as Perth haha. Dinh is a star! Read so many positive comments about him
Hi Jayden
Thank you for your vlog.
Mind asking if you will be travelling with Starlux in TPE?
no plans at the moment, perhaps in October when they launch HK flights!
Nice!
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video. 15:50 Why are there payload restrictions?
VA are using almost the top end of the maximum range of the 737-8 MAX at MTOW for the CNS-HND route. Whilst on a good, fine day the aircraft could take almost a full load at MTOW, this can change relatively quickly if weather conditions change en-route prior to the scheduled takeoff, which could affect payloads, which for example storms forcecasted mid-route may require the aircraft to take alternative waypoints to get around the weather, thus requiring more fuel
Hi Jayden plenty leg room meals looked worth the money. Hotel room good.
thanks Maureen :))
Nice shiny coathook 😍
haha yesss!!
I think lots of people have problems with luggage not getting to their destination at the same time as they do.
Their food seems expensive. The crew sounded lovely. Nice review. Hope your luggage caught up to you! You’re funny, socks and jock comment cracked Me up.
three of us haha, the other two were a couple connecting from Brisbane. Bags made it to my next flight to Seoul! VA sent them to Narita Airport
i flew premium. economy to London on VIRGIN.......loved it...great crew...etc
amazing! Love Virgin Atlantic
@@JaydenWong i can not remember you ever visiting Thailand.....have you?????
I recently flew Rex Brisbane to Adelaide and Adelaide to Brisbane. Love the Fringe advertising at the airport
ahaha and VA had a stand at the Fringe as well :)
I saw it.Did you go to the Fringe
Always love watching your vlogs Jayden. Very entertaining and love your humour 😂😂
thank you!! :)
Another great video Jayden. I especially like the inclusion of hotel and city checks towards the end. I realise VA is downgrading to a hybrid airline but really it ought to offer complimentary catering on an international route of this length and one which serves Japan. Look at JetBlue ...it's a budget operator for US domestic but on the transatlantic it becomes a full service airline (complete with Mint (business) class) and everyone praises the quality of JetBlue's Y catering which is superior to normal airline Y food.
Hi Alex!! Thanks for watching this one :)
When I flew VA to New Zealand last year I was hoping there would be free hot meals but no :/ not even lounge access if you’re in business or got gold/platinum. Definitely nowhere near VS and even Jetblue!
Virgin's direct Hybrid competitor Batik Air also largely offers Food for Purchase in Y on their international routes, including their 7 hour long hauls, VA and Batik largely operate the same aircraft types and service, both are largely LCC Y and Full Service Recliner J with limited Lounge Services for J passengers.
Awesome video as always!
I’ll be in Hong Kong 🇭🇰 on 17th of march.
thank you! Enjoy your trip!
@@JaydenWongur from hong kong? speak cantonese
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Great video! I fly VA from SYD a lot and hope to fluke a flight on the MAX one day. If not I'll have to try Bonza just to log a MAX...✈️✈️✈️
Thanks for watching!
Wow! All airline cabin crew need to be trained by Virgin. How much was the kitkat? $24 for a meal is daylight robbery. Had no idea the Max could fly for 8 hours. Such a lovely trip report.
$5 from memory. Was $24 with the mimosa haha. $15 by its own :) thanks for watching!
Welcome to Japan!
thank you :))
Bummer when one's luggage goes AWOL. Bad luck there Jayden. I am off on a Boeing this coming Tuesday. I think I'll bring along a screwdriver - and keep my seatbelt done up! 😁
🤣good luck!
New plane max 👍👍
OMG I wish I was your flight too
Hey Jayden! I love your videos, i was wondering what do you do for work and why do you only stay in countries for a short period of time? 🔥
Full time RUclips. haha we HKers never stay in a country for too long, we're used to weekend trips. Anything more than 5 days is too long for one place.
@@JaydenWong That's so awesome dude, hoping to travel the world this year!
Welcome to Tokyo! Didn't know that the 737MAX can fly between Australia and Japan, I thought you needed wide body aircraft for longer range!
CNS to HND isn't even the longest flight that a 737 MAX flies
the 737 MAX and Airbus A321XLR can go extra far!
Great video! Extremely disappointed that you have to pay for food on an International flight that is 7 hours long. Otherwise great review
Been on VA's 737 MAX 8 before on a domestic flight.
I should try them out on an international flight next time :)
absolutely!
Oh I didn't realise the 737-800 and Max 8 were different - was recently on the former - their legroom in Economy (not X) is a bit on the tight side once you've got a back in front of you if you're above average height.
Yeah Aussie domestic flights in general don’t have much legroom unfortunately
Good to know, thanks.🙏
There is a lounge at cairns airport
It's great to hear that VA has since restarted their business again!? Cheers!?
Cheers😁🥂
Hi ! U really enjoying life! ❤❤🎉🎉🎉
thanks Brandon! :)
I Experience B737 MAX 8 jet.Great Trip Report
thank you :)
naughty Jayden ... boarding at 12:39am then take off at 1:11pm,? lol .... was a great video anyway, I really love Japan, the people are just so nice and friendly
whoops haha 12:39pm!! Thanks Gavin :))
Cool
Hi Jayden. That Max 8 loo is really squishy !😮
The plane did seem quieter than an older 737.... although I wonder did you feel safe , considering all the problems the Max 8 have had ?
I knew last year the Max 8 was coming to Virgin, but it's safety record still concerns me. Was there a reason that the plane is limited to 70% capacity ?
Is it a Max 8 thing, or so that the plane can fly the full distance from Cairns to Japan, on standard size fuel supply for the Max 8. (rather than a 737 long range plane, with bigger fuel payloads)
Hi Heather, yeah I feel safe. If the pilots are there flying the plane, I'm sure they know what they're doing and they're confident :)
For the capacity, I think it's just a bit too long for the 737 MAX, hence the plane needs to be lighter. Qantas 787 to Dallas and London and similar restrictions.
The tractor at cairns makes me think about how weird it is to go to an airport but not fly
it makes me sad to go to an airport to pick up and drop off people😫😂
Please note that they are selling J class in recliner seat,no int lounge and stop in Cairns for immigration for 1k aud more than CX.
Regular travellers will go non-stop on JL in Y on daylight flight for a quarter on that. What are they thinking. You even get lounges on JL and NH IN prem Y.
Safe travels.
It is not the cheapest option for me from Adelaide. I think the 737 does well with just those to/from Cairns. Japanese people love going to Cairns/Queensland
It's basically aimed at Japanese tourists visiting North Qld, leaving the outbound services basically to 'low yielding'/budget passengers departing out of Australia
(Most Australian outbound medium/high yield leisure mainly take the FSCs out of the East Coast capitals)
On the CNS-HND flight it sounded as if the APU was on for the duration of the flight. Weird
I came from Sydney to Cairns to Japan on the 2/12/ 23 not long ago. I must of being a different plane, not the 737 because we had entertainment in the shape of a i pad once after we took off.
Either VA has started offering IPads for rent as VA has no other aircraft than the 737 family of variants, or you were either on JQ on the same route.
Oh interesting, VA used to do that in business class. Samsung tablets they were. Maybe on the 737 to HND equipped with WiFi they give them out? This particular 737 MAX didn’t have WiFi due to late delivery from Boeing. If they installed it the HND launch would have had to be delayed
Youre a brave man. I would not go on the new ones
Amazing video Jayden I live in Mackay and was wondering what country would be the cheapest to fly to?
perhaps NZ or Bali via Brisbane
Wow thank you I’m going to Bali next holidays
I saw the AH! at Starbucks Reserve, Jayden! 😂
🤭🤭
Did you get your bags yet Jayden @Jayden Wong ?
yep I got it within two days :)
Great video! Done the this MEL > CNS > NRT a few times for work and it is such a slog. Might be tolerable for those going over for a holiday but I go over for work and this just destroyed me. Work has agreed to keep it direct with QF or JAL moving forward. Great to see a review from a different perspective :)
ahah yes and if you start from MEL or SYD, better off go with QF, JAL, ANA and even SQ, MH, CI or CX. Good to know it's JAL from now on! Happy employees haha
Jayden, couldn’t help but notice the intro: Virgin Jayden Wong. 🎉🎉🎉
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THE BATHROOM IS TINY!
It’s a narrow body what do you expect
I was out photographing planes landing at Haneda. Was so surprised to see a Virgin Australia flight from Australia using a 737-Max plane. I thought it must be pushing to boundaries of its flight envelope to make the distance.
You ought to see some of the long flights which FlyDubai and Icelandair operate with their MAX 737s.
haha yes it is funny to see VA 737 MAX 8 right next to the Qantas, UA, AA, JAL, ANA big jets at HND T3
great video, thanks. I wonder, when considering lack of entertainment/WiFi & buying food, and needing to go via CNS - is it worth saving a few $$ on Virgin? I am struggling to go with them (Feb 2025), when I could go ANA via SYD on a nicer bigger plane?!
The entertainment was unlucky, due to late delivery from Boeing, VA didn't have time to install them. This flight is ideal for those who want non-stop from Cairns, if you need to connect anyway, ANA no doubt.
have they fixed up the gyroscope thingy, that points the plane into a dive?
The chicken rice looks nice 😋 👌
hi Windell!!!
@@JaydenWong hi 👋 my friend 😊
Those seats 6:00 at cairns airport lol.
Thats a bad look !!!! Surely lounge chairs are not that expensive for an airport !!!!
ikr! Even some airport lounges don't do lounge chairs...
1. Exit row on the MAX. That's a bold move lol.
2. You landed in a different terminal in Melbourne. What if someone has to pick you up and they are waiting at the wrong terminal? Do the passengers needs to inform them to go to T4?
T3 and T4 are connected. If you arrived on a VA flight I would assume you would pick up your bags in T3. Regardless even the pick up area from T1-4 are connected so nothing too much to worry about. :)
Virgin B737 MAX 8 looks actually stunning and pretty comfortable too, but for me it sounds a bit crazy to fly on it for 7hrs. I think they gonna fly daily using this B737 MAX 8 for the Bali routes except SYD. The seat features a lot of things too like the USB port, although some new phones these days don't have the USB cables anymore, and considering that there's only free water, coffee and tea even onboard such a long flight, I would have expect more but I guess that's what Virgin target market is. Do they really get ur missed bag to Tokyo the next day after you get to Narita and how did they manage that? Anyway, the food offering onboard isn't bad either, bunch of cup noodles and there's buy onboard hot meal with 2 choices, for me both meals looks really good, but imo the portion for the chicken rice is quite tiny. I wish VA open their lounge on Cairns knowing that they operate some domestic flight to SYD, MEL, BNE or ADL etc., but for international I think it would be weird as they only have 1 international flight from Cairns. Great videoo Jaydenn👍👍
The buy-on-board is really popular and some guests didn't eat at all. I suppose they really found their target customers haha. They sent my bag to my next flight- Asiana to Seoul. So I got them on arrival in Seoul haha. They did have a lounge in CNS and sadly they closed it permanently at the start of COVID :(( I guess for the same reason, not many members would fly to CNS unlike business hubs like SYD and MEL
Hey there Jayden, I'm about to have a four and a half hr layover in HKG and I'll arrive at approx 5am local, is there much restaurants and shops open at that time? flying pe on cathay and no ow status so no lounge for me :(
Food court might not be open yet. Never been that early sorry! But Mcdonalds near gate 20 is open 24/7! Great view over tarmac
@@JaydenWong noted, thanks for the reply!
Water is for your ears you know how it hurts that’s why to swollow
Jayden? As I understand the Statue of Liberty is in New York, USA. But I saw what looked like Liberty in this video today. What is it called and where is it located please do tell
In Odaiba, also called the Status of Liberty :)
@@JaydenWong thank you.
Where did the door plugs go? I mean one of them...
Moral of the story: fly JQ' 788s if youre from CNS, fly with an Asian full service carrier if youre anywhere else in Australia.
I’m a bit surprised there were no complimentary meals on a seven hour international flight. Not to mention no seatback entertainment! Are they a low-cost carrier now or has that always been the case with Virgin?
as for the food it’s been like this since Covid. It’s a hybrid airline now. So there’s a proper frequent flyer program still, plus water/tea/coffee and wireless entertainment on most flights
chiken look good Jayden😘
yep sure was!! Thank you so much for watching!!
I always watch you❤I am only sorry you were 2hours train from Rome to my Venice you would have loved I can't travel yet because of my ealth maybe next time Jayden❤❤
Fantastic video and review! Although Virgin Australia = a budget airline at full service airlines price.
Thanks! Actually between Japan-Australia, Virgin is pretty much the same price as China Southern via CAN, and both are significantly cheaper than any other carriers!
Gosh, a transcontinental long-haul on a narrowbody like the transatlantic A321neos. Do you find it more comfortable than a long-haul. Can't believe for such a long flight the food ain't free.
JetBlue operates transatlantic with narrow-bodies and its Y catering is free of charge and highly praised for quality. (Note: JetBlue's transatlantic offering is quite different to what it provides on US domestic routes)
Virgin is quite clear with the fact that in economy you pay for everything regardless how long the flight is. Business class is all inclusive. On this particular sector you're almost guaranteed a spare seat or two next to you due to payload restriction so yeah it was quite comfy for me :)
Hey Jayden next time go to visit Japan web and you won’t need to the immigration or customs paper work, just a QR code on your phone.
I did both just in case 🤣
Glad the spoilers didn’t deploy mid flight.