yes i i know they just debuted i ain’t stupid & i said “based on the skills they’ve shown SO FAR” the selective literacy of kpop stans is smth not of god
Just curious, what are these evaluations based on? Like for example, does a “Strong” stage presence rating mean that person is better than most of their peers on that category? Does an “Excellent” rating mean top tier?
@@yoonrisworld8678 Yeah but my point is that I dont think some of their skills in those categories are that strong compared to other 4th gen groups, but if you say everyone is strong making ratings kinda loses its point?
@@zrf4944 it’s not compared to anyone it’s just in general you either have stage presence or you don’t. But stage presence is smth your can work on and improve
I disagree.. I usually notice Hyein & Danielle.. They dance very well.. Not much of Haerin or Hanni.. They only look pretty, but not strong stage presence.
@@hannis_personal_phoneStage precence doesn’t always need to be about dance. You’ll need to have the facial expressions, strong movements and more. I think she’s pretty good at sp.
im not refering to the dance she does have stage presence but its average but i can see that shes improving as i wrote that comment 3 weeks ago. Hope that helps clear that up 😊@@emmafrancis5199
Ma girl Haerin have already caught my attention with her big cat eyes, beautiful voice and mysterious aura. I actually like that she's not too extra with her facial expressions, she does it in a very natural way, her fancams are relaxing I would say. I think she only needs more confidence. Give her few years and you will see the difference. All the members are already so good considering how young they are. Seriously NewJeans are so close to perfection.
True! Haerin caught my first as well (even tho i thought Hyein is gonna be my ult bias). Haerin is on center (delivered perfectly well) and always stable with facial expressions. Never did I ever thought she's actually an introvert 🥺🤍 im shoookt!
i’m really impressed with the production of new jeans, it might seem like them not being stellar in the rap category is a diss but in reality it feels like a relief 😭 a lot of groups that debut have rap lines with mediocre rappers bc they think every song needs a rap to go viral, when in reality they DONT! and that’s okay bc you see how far newjeans have come ❤ much success to them, i hope they win rookie of the year award
Hey you guys, don't be blind on Hyein's vocal, you will see the talents of Hyein in"it is live" ditto ver, her vocal can't be described by words, she is so talented and also her stage presence is excellent ❗❗
Yes, it shouldn't be. But for some cases, it is. Have you ever heard there's visual line or visual member in kpop groups? Because visual has been a position.
@@meenaverma4973 ik but FOR ME visual isn't a talent..If you can sing, dance, rap (like other things except visual) then you're talented. Visual is just about beauty (who fit KBS the most, not a talent or posi, But they just take it as position).
But even though I love them, haerin when they debuted looks lost onstage. Hyein and Minji also. Only Danielle and Hanni were making different facial expressions and looked very comfortable... It's changed and they have improved immensely but that was the majority opinion when they debuted seeing their debut stages. Smiling winking also is part of showing presence... No need to put down who smile onstage. If you are nervous it gets to your head and people forget smiling etc... So it's a valid opinion for that time
Haerin dance style is closer to my ideal but tbh I love how flowy Hyein is like DOES SHE EVEN HAVE BONES??? Both got excellent execution for isolation but Hyein is more prominent. Ngl their voices are my favorite. Haerin and Hyein caught my attention since the beginning tho 😻
@@lilyrics_ idk which video you refer, sometimes I do think so. But she's less stiff than the others, at least it doesn't look awkward cuz she got the groove. It's still their debut era, so they have so much room to improve but they already got the talent so I look forward to it!
this is so biased and wrong 💀 there is no rap parts so why is haerin "weak" while hanni is "average"? if you want to praise hanni and danielle you can do that without bringing the others down. haerin is vocally excellent main dancer amazing stage presence centre visual and ace of the group. you can't change my mind.
Hyein vocals are amazing. She’s a main vocalist and her voice blends in so well. And her rapping and and dancing are amazing! She’s mainly known for her rapping
@@billythecat she caught my attention first, I like her vibe, aura and personality and she appeared to be the most beautiful for me although they are all pretty except from that her voice and dancing skills is also amazing. 💗
She is kinda weak in SP. look at her perfo in hype boy, she sings the chorus but her expressions are pretty basic. does not smile much, her eyes stay the same and her overall facials just bland. you can compare it to other members
@@Daisy-qd2cf She is shy compared to the other, i think it’s mainly because she did not have much work pre debut while other had tv shows, fashion shows, dance cover etc.
Honestly, after watching a few of their live singing. Hyein vocals is exactly the same as the one in their recorded songs. she didn't even have to try too hard, and she is only 14 which means her voice is not matured yet (mature voice is around 18+ age) but to be able to not make a mistake in singing is already a great thing for someone their age
@@joshchanhonest2787 compared to hanni, dani and haerin… she still considerably right there along with them not to mention shes only 14 and her voice still has to mature so shes probs gonna sound 10x better once she gets their age with all the training hybe does with their artist vocal wise. so uhh yea ig lol. def not just “ok” but probs is to you💀
no thats not minjis charm tho shes amazing at rapping and dancing but she has a husky voice and as an ex-trainee i know that vocals is not her strong point.(im not trying to hate on minji btw 😊)@@emmafrancis5199
It is funny that people evaluate idols based on an imaginary or subjective concept like stage presence although most viewers are not professionals. Who has stage presence? Who can be evaluated by stage presence although there are only a few idols who show stage presence. There is no official center in this group, and each member performs on both center and side. If you just watch one person, her presence becomes larger than others.
Although Haerin's SP is weak, but she still attract my eyes a lot, there's sth mysterious in her and i love it. I love all of them. They are the first Kpop group i like all members
Ngl their dance skills as a group are above average, even tho as individuals they still have so much room to improve (like for isolation, angles, etc). No one notices that each has individual style unless you watch their fancams, but it shows that their calibration is no joke ✋😩👍 dancing alone is pretty tough but dancing as a group is hard, luckily they only have 5 members so it won't be that hard since they're already talented I only talk about their dances cuz I have no knowledge about singing and rapping, even tho I'm not professional in dance either HAHAHAH✋😔
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yes i i know they just debuted i ain’t stupid & i said “based on the skills they’ve shown SO FAR” the selective literacy of kpop stans is smth not of god
Just curious, what are these evaluations based on? Like for example, does a “Strong” stage presence rating mean that person is better than most of their peers on that category? Does an “Excellent” rating mean top tier?
@@zrf4944 I’m pretty sure it really just means their stage presence, or whatever the category is, that it’s strong.
The moment i read the “so far” i knew you wanted to make it clear. I don’t understand how some kpop stans pick and choose what words to read😭😭
@@yoonrisworld8678 Yeah but my point is that I dont think some of their skills in those categories are that strong compared to other 4th gen groups, but if you say everyone is strong making ratings kinda loses its point?
@@zrf4944 it’s not compared to anyone it’s just in general you either have stage presence or you don’t. But stage presence is smth your can work on and improve
Hanni and Danielle have amazing vibes on stage
@Bang me Chan wtf is your pfp???
@@beomie1039 omg
@Bang me Chan ur pfp, tf
@Bang me Chan omg your pfp tf?
@Bang me Chan tf is dattt-
Hanni's vocals are just so good
Yess
@Giy Goy Haerin has the best vocals
@@hallooos7585 in terms of technique, Hanni and Danielle are stronger than Haerin. I really like her voice as well but just wanna state the fact
Yes especially in the into the new world collab that she did
Sweet like honey
I think hyein's vocal was so really really STRONGGGHH
I agreee
Sameeee and haerin dance is excellent
her vocals are so underrated! she sounds angelic. imo the best vocalist in newjeans
yes i agree shes only 15
agreed, plus she’s really young and she already sound like an angel like id could listen to her for hours.. ❤
Hyein have a strong vocal, her timbre is so beautiful and mature, also Danielle is just born to be an idol, she always shines on the stage!
Hanni 's stage presence is just perfection ✨
Edit:Omg 12k likes 😱
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I disagree.. I usually notice Hyein & Danielle.. They dance very well.. Not much of Haerin or Hanni.. They only look pretty, but not strong stage presence.
@@sharlene.e your opinion..
@@sharlene.e who asked
@@Akachan_10 because she’s honestly overrated? The other members deserve more hype
I would say Hyein has excellent stage presence as well
I agree, for me she has the best stage presence among the other members along with danielle
agree.. her stage presence is on top
I agree her stage presence on the next level.
totally agree she standout the most
Gotta agree!!🔥🔥🔥
Hyein's "Cool With You" rap slays idc what anyone says
Now, look at Hyein's vocal in Ditto..IT's heaven sis
her opinion
For me, I think Minji's stage presence is excellent. With the visuals, fresh smile and her energetic moves you'll surely watch her.
True, I also love her facial expressions. She enjoys every performance and I love it!
Yeah and her rap is strong. Idk why they put her as average?
@@Yytggg345this was 11 monthes ago this is when they first debuted. They said in the beginning
True!!! Minji was the best
FR! FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICES MINJI! ❤❤
Hanni, Hyein, and Danielle got the stage presence aspect down to a T. They perform like this is their final shot
Hyein's stage presence is just chef kiss ✨
i’d say hyeins vocals are nice! in the tell me cover and in ditto when she did the starting woo hoo hoo was very hitg
Danielle stage presence: Perfection
Ikrrr
Danielle is just too perfect. Can't tell she's from a newbie group
true, for me her cookie fancam, the one without the bangs, beautifully shows her elegantly hypnotizing stage presence
@@tahiraalaraf7505 she was in so many Korean shows before this ..
@@raya7390 what does Korean shows have to do with stage presence, dancing, and singing?
Haerin is effortlessly charismatic, she's very chill in every performance making every move they do look so easy. I love herrr
Haerin = Best NJ member. Period
Cat eye i love it
Me toooooo ❤❤❤
@@urhypeboy 💯
girl stay de;ulu@@urhypeboy
Hyein has a strong vocal thoo
her opinion
I am so in love with minji ✨
hyein is so pretty
i agree for hyein’s, hanni’s and danielle’s stage presence, they have one of the best ones imo
hyein's vocal is strong she slayed their comeback
hyein singing voice is badass and very viby imo i freaking love the background vocals of her saying 1 2 3 eeeeh
Hanni, best dancer 🥰🤩
For me Minji has a super strong stage presence her smile is so charming and her performing on stage is so smooth
minji is pretty n smiles but that isnt sp
@@hannis_personal_phoneStage precence doesn’t always need to be about dance. You’ll need to have the facial expressions, strong movements and more. I think she’s pretty good at sp.
im not refering to the dance she does have stage presence but its average but i can see that shes improving as i wrote that comment 3 weeks ago. Hope that helps clear that up 😊@@emmafrancis5199
Hyein's stage presence is divine
but hyeins vocals are heavenly
Ma girl Haerin have already caught my attention with her big cat eyes, beautiful voice and mysterious aura. I actually like that she's not too extra with her facial expressions, she does it in a very natural way, her fancams are relaxing I would say. I think she only needs more confidence. Give her few years and you will see the difference. All the members are already so good considering how young they are. Seriously NewJeans are so close to perfection.
as a haerin biased...i agree
Agreed :)
I Agree, we'll see. And also i like haerin cuz she is main vocal.
Yeah true! Haerin caught my eye first hehe, but I also like Hanni and Minji
True! Haerin caught my first as well (even tho i thought Hyein is gonna be my ult bias). Haerin is on center (delivered perfectly well) and always stable with facial expressions. Never did I ever thought she's actually an introvert 🥺🤍 im shoookt!
i’m really impressed with the production of new jeans, it might seem like them not being stellar in the rap category is a diss but in reality it feels like a relief 😭 a lot of groups that debut have rap lines with mediocre rappers bc they think every song needs a rap to go viral, when in reality they DONT! and that’s okay bc you see how far newjeans have come ❤ much success to them, i hope they win rookie of the year award
so true bestie well said
Hey you guys, don't be blind on Hyein's vocal, you will see the talents of Hyein in"it is live" ditto ver, her vocal can't be described by words, she is so talented and also her stage presence is excellent ❗❗
Hyien vocals are not a joke it's strong❤
Hyein has excellent stage presence imo
Dannielle and Hanni make me feel like a proud Aussie haha they slaying
They were literally in my dream last night haha
Dani is a mixed breed and Hanni is of Vietnamese descent
@@hienchuthithanh3124 That's their ethnicities.. They're still Aussies born and raised.
But still she have viet blood running through veins not Aussie@@aero.l
HOW CAN YOU HYEIN’S VOCALS ARE AVERAGE?? ITS LITERALLY ONE OF THE BEST OUT OF EVERYONE IN THE GRP
Hanni is an all-rounder.
I can see her having a succesful solo career in the future. 🐰
I'm from the future
Hanni is now an ace
And dani is a all rounder ❤
Minji has excellent stage presence tho like she's so captivating
Hanni my talented baby
vietnamese
Dannni are my favourite ❤️
@@nguyenveronika bro u just solved a whole damn case! But what is wrong with her being việt?
@@so-sophiesticated1486 i am vietnamese and she is my bias
@@nguyenveronika but why did u have say that?
I’d say Hyein has strong/excellent vocals
Hyein's stage presence is excellent what is this bruh
Only one thing I know for sure
*Visual*
All member: excellent
Visual isn't a talent/position
Yes, it shouldn't be. But for some cases, it is. Have you ever heard there's visual line or visual member in kpop groups? Because visual has been a position.
@@Evoraxy0 It is
@@meenaverma4973 ik but FOR ME visual isn't a talent..If you can sing, dance, rap (like other things except visual) then you're talented. Visual is just about beauty (who fit KBS the most, not a talent or posi, But they just take it as position).
Tho every members are pretty, but VISUAL shouldn't be a talent/position.
People should know stage presence is not about smiling and winking it's about being skilled and knowing how to deliver the expressions when needed.
tell’em
But even though I love them, haerin when they debuted looks lost onstage. Hyein and Minji also. Only Danielle and Hanni were making different facial expressions and looked very comfortable... It's changed and they have improved immensely but that was the majority opinion when they debuted seeing their debut stages. Smiling winking also is part of showing presence... No need to put down who smile onstage. If you are nervous it gets to your head and people forget smiling etc... So it's a valid opinion for that time
When needed. Except when you don't do it and you look lost on stage with blank facial expressions then that's an issue
Yes and Dani can do all of that 😉
Stage presence is all about who attracts the audience.
All based on their opinion.
I think Hyein vocal is strong too, just look at her voice in Ditto
Hyein have a strong vocals wdym
Haerin dance style is closer to my ideal but tbh I love how flowy Hyein is like DOES SHE EVEN HAVE BONES??? Both got excellent execution for isolation but Hyein is more prominent. Ngl their voices are my favorite. Haerin and Hyein caught my attention since the beginning tho 😻
FR THE BONE PART
True!!
hyein dance move look stiff imo
@@lilyrics_ idk which video you refer, sometimes I do think so. But she's less stiff than the others, at least it doesn't look awkward cuz she got the groove. It's still their debut era, so they have so much room to improve but they already got the talent so I look forward to it!
@@lilyrics_ that’s a weird thing to say
Hanni is literally perfect and I heard she’s Vietnameseeeeeee just like meee
HANNI IS REALLY BORN TO BE AN IDOL 💗💗 LOVE HER SO MUCH!!
EXCUSE ME? HYEIN VOCALS ARE CRAZY GOOD. Even Hanni try to imites her 💕
Minji is beautiful too her visual
Bro haerin is the first one I noticed, her stage presence is ✨excellent✨
Samee
Me too.
for me, its her features, her large, cat-like eyes just captivates me so much- (I love all of Newjeans, but i fav Hyein more I'm so sorry)
Her facial expression literally almost never changes tho. Like the emotion on her face is always the same
@@Vivian-ho1xu I love Haerin so much but I do agree. I think it has to do with her being an introvert and shy
Hanni is just too perfect 🥺
Minji im so proud of you 😌😭
I think minji stage presence is excellent because she got a lot of praise from it and legit went viral
smiling isnt sp
@@hannis_personal_phoneshut up
Haerin doesn't need stage presence to my bias 🥰
I already have a strong Danielle and Hanni bias😭😭
If you watch omg/ditto recording behind the scenes, Hyein is a very powerful vocalist. Rating her as average no longer applies
Haerin don't need to have a great facial expression because she's already captivating with her aura & her big beautiful cat eyes
Same
haha true
Same girl
Same girl there is something about this girl that makes me fall for the group . Her vibes are so calm yet you won't get bored .
danielle’s stage presence is too perfect, she’s the first member that caught my eyes
this is so biased and wrong 💀 there is no rap parts so why is haerin "weak" while hanni is "average"? if you want to praise hanni and danielle you can do that without bringing the others down. haerin is vocally excellent main dancer amazing stage presence centre visual and ace of the group. you can't change my mind.
That’s what I was thinking 💀
Hyein vocals are amazing. She’s a main vocalist and her voice blends in so well. And her rapping and and dancing are amazing! She’s mainly known for her rapping
Agree but baby Haerin is still my Bias💗 lovelots NewJeans fighting 💪
Same
No hate. I honestly want to know what makes her your bias?
@@billythecat she caught my attention first, I like her vibe, aura and personality and she appeared to be the most beautiful for me although they are all pretty except from that her voice and dancing skills is also amazing. 💗
@@Lihaejin understood thank you :)
I like her too, just make sure you don't Infintalize her, y know with that "baby" She's older than 14.
haerin is definitely not weak in stage presence imo
she quite is though, most of the time she's pretty bland
She is kinda weak in SP. look at her perfo in hype boy, she sings the chorus but her expressions are pretty basic. does not smile much, her eyes stay the same and her overall facials just bland. you can compare it to other members
I love her in the mvs but the concerts she looks a bit lost. She will improve
She’s quite emotionless to me :((
@@Daisy-qd2cf She is shy compared to the other, i think it’s mainly because she did not have much work pre debut while other had tv shows, fashion shows, dance cover etc.
HAERIN STAGE PRESENCE EXCELLENT! AND SHES VISUAL ACTUALY 😭💙 arghhhh SHES CHARM SHES AURA INSANE
Honestly, after watching a few of their live singing. Hyein vocals is exactly the same as the one in their recorded songs. she didn't even have to try too hard, and she is only 14 which means her voice is not matured yet (mature voice is around 18+ age) but to be able to not make a mistake in singing is already a great thing for someone their age
Hyein prob has the strongest stage presence in the group
No Danielle for me
@@just_existing253 same
hanni for me
Yes
Yes true.
I really love Minji's vocals!!!
How talented they are. Remember Hyein is only 14 now. I believe NJ will be more and more successful
All members in this group are such strong dancers!
My baby hanni love you
Hyein's vocals are strong
Actually she is ok, but compare to Hanni, Dani or Hearin, ….
@@joshchanhonest2787 compared to hanni, dani and haerin… she still considerably right there along with them not to mention shes only 14 and her voice still has to mature so shes probs gonna sound 10x better once she gets their age with all the training hybe does with their artist vocal wise. so uhh yea ig lol. def not just “ok” but probs is to you💀
@@jarvjfghgtv7405 agreed
I don’t think Minji has average vocals. She actually has a nice raspy tone to her voice that adds a lovely touch to NJ songs. I love her!
Y'all fr sleeping on Hyejin's vocals 😭 they are so heavenly
Haerin 's stage presence is average not weak
it is weak???
i agree she looks very lost on stage she is pretty tho@@hannis_personal_phone
Hyein dance brilliant❤️
i can't wait for hyein to improve just a little bit more (cause she's already really talented) so she can get the recognition she deserves😌
Hanni stage presence is off the charts!
Minji’s vocals is so good she’s strong at it
cap
no thats not minjis charm tho shes amazing at rapping and dancing but she has a husky voice and as an ex-trainee i know that vocals is not her strong point.(im not trying to hate on minji btw 😊)@@emmafrancis5199
I think all of them got a strong stage presence. The line distribution is well balanced and each one of them got center time as well.
Am I the only one who find Hyein so attractive and have the best stage presence •_• ?
Hanni is perfection all across the board ✨
Hanni definitely the ace❤
Hanni an all rounder🥰
update ts cause hyein vocals are strong she can sing really well live
Hanni's vocals and dance are so excellent!!!
Hyein got excellent stage presence too...girl be slaying it on stage ✨
Minji looks so cute ☺️
I knew Hanni is an all rounder! Even on their debut stage, Hanni stood out the most to me because of how confident and fun she looked
Hyein rap its strong bro , u should listen cool with you
That’s not rapping. Lol..
Hanni is definitely on her way to being an all-rounder at such a young age :)
My girl Hanni slayed (others did too she’s just my bias)
HAERIN LITERALLY HAS THE BEST STAGE PRESENCE WHAT
Being attractive doesn’t mean your stage presence is good, she’s improved tho
no
Haerin’s stage presence is definitely not weak.
Haerin is really an all rounder, she's equally good in everything
💀
has she rapped? no and she isnt even top 3 in vocals shes amazing tho but that is an overstretch
@@kirbysflower9364 this comment was a year ago ive changed my mind since then lmao, i think hyein is an all rounder and the most underrated
Hanni is really their ace
Facts
100%
minji too,she have not weak points🤨
@@ajoybhujel7965vocal
@@ajoybhujel7965 she's f+ vocalist :')
It is funny that people evaluate idols based on an imaginary or subjective concept like stage presence although most viewers are not professionals. Who has stage presence? Who can be evaluated by stage presence although there are only a few idols who show stage presence. There is no official center in this group, and each member performs on both center and side. If you just watch one person, her presence becomes larger than others.
Although Haerin's SP is weak, but she still attract my eyes a lot, there's sth mysterious in her and i love it. I love all of them. They are the first Kpop group i like all members
Haerin is definitely have this natural aura that can captivate anyones attention, she flowlessly perform on the stage that caught my eyes.
Haerin prettiest girl alive
Hyein is so confident on stage, including her facial expressions. Her skills become even more impressive, when age is factored in.
I feel like minji and Dani speak to me when they perform 🔥🌟
Hyein is so amazing on stage, it's insane! 🔥
Ngl their dance skills as a group are above average, even tho as individuals they still have so much room to improve (like for isolation, angles, etc). No one notices that each has individual style unless you watch their fancams, but it shows that their calibration is no joke ✋😩👍 dancing alone is pretty tough but dancing as a group is hard, luckily they only have 5 members so it won't be that hard since they're already talented
I only talk about their dances cuz I have no knowledge about singing and rapping, even tho I'm not professional in dance either HAHAHAH✋😔
Agreed
Danielle so good I love how she always smiles