@@MrWolfxmanif you use “netherese orb blast” as an attack during the fight on the brain you’ll get an ending where Gale kills your whole party and the brain
There is indeed a unique character for Karlach! There's a date scene with her, and if you kill the barman before the date, his brother spawns in his place.
@@karlwittenburg5868 Technically he’s still reachable via a variant of the “shadow boxing” speedrun tech where you can then enter the debug rooms and kill him there, although that’s not really a feasible or legitimate way of doing things…
Fun fact - The blue jay is actually a bad guy, and if you knock out the eagles instead of killing them, the jay will come and finish them off in front of you and tells you it wasn't really his nest!
I also remember having read somewhere that Eagles are good-aligned creatures in the original D&D Handbooks, so it wouldn't really make sense for them to take over another bird's nest, and the jay is way too small for the huge eagle nest.
"Let's judge your sins real quick... Hmm, other than the basics, you're all good! Wait, I'm getting a call... Hmm... Check what he did in videogames? Alright, fine." "WE'RE MAKING A NEW LAYER OF HELL FOR YOU"
@@THATWHICHCHILLS And the replacement tieflings end up as corpses at the party. So technically the decision to side with the tieflings didn't change much.
He gets tied up in act 3? I'm doing an (sort of) evil run with my sorceror & left him in the goblin camp in that cage with Dribbo 😂 Does he get blown up, or something, if u don't rescue him when he's tied up?
@@animegamergeek1427 Yes actually. They have him tied up on a cart that's loaded with smokepowder barrels, with a trail of firewine leading away. There's an NPC that will throw a torch into the firewine, thus lighting it on fire, which of course lights the cart on fire. If the cart continues to burn, it will eventually ignite the smokepowder and boom, roaste de Volo.
@@theoperator3712 yeah, I just watched a video about it a couple minutes ago. The one I saw had it blow up as soon as the npc hit it with an bottle, or whatever it was. I'll just leave him in the goblin camp
True but it doesn’t _really_ kill her, just sends her back to Hell, since you can only truly kill a devil in Hell. I’ve heard that if you do kill her she finds your camp to scream at you for losing Wyll but I did that in my run and she hasn’t shown up yet so I honestly don’t know
Omg I did this in my honor run. I stole the idol and agro all the druids and killed them all. Tieflings too. So surprised halsin still joined, but I ended up romancing him and even got the ending where we stayed together at an orphanage :)
@ghostpond is he? I mean, he kind of looks like he is a cambion, but he presents more as a Duke of the nine. A cambion is born of the union of devil and human. I haven't finished the game though, I've only reach act 3 recently and met his warlock.
@@reeceandben4876 well atleast every wiki says so but if raphael would be a full devil I think he would be a lot stronger and I think it is mentioned somewhere in game but I cant remember where. And raphaels dad is archdevil mephistolies so he gets little special treatment so that is why he carries himself as a duke
@@ghostpond he's definitely a cambion, you can say something along the lines of 'pfft he's just a cambion we can take him' to Astarion as a Warlock specific option after you first meet Raphael, and he disapproves and tells you you're a cocky idiot lmao
Before watching the video. There is a replacement for every single tiefling in the emerald grove party if they die. And replacements to those replacements. And they are all named
The kid down on the beach dies if you don’t do anything. You can find his body if you go there after resolving (one way or another) the grove. Not sure about the other kids though.
Quick note; you can remove the bloodless penalty with lesser restoration. A level 2 cleric spell. Second quick note: there's an amulet for free 1/day lesser restoration under a rock in the grove, down at the beach where the bear you murdered is. Basically, giving Astarion the happy buff by letting him bite you every day (or someone else) is entirely free.
As a secondary minor aside which I should have waited to comment for: you can keep Mayrina's brothers alive by usning non-lethal mode after siding with Ethel. There's even a special dialogue for it when you talk to Mayrina. However she still reacts as if they've ben killed and nothing further comes of it. Not helpful for a "kill everyone" run, but an interesting interaction that was accounted for, then ignored.
You can also keep them alive by being non-comital and unhelpful in their dialogue. They'll survive the redcaps and Ethel sends them to a farm outside of Baldur's Gate to make them disappear@@KodyackCasual
FYI, you missed the three goblin kids outside the camp near Crusher. They're like the Zhents inside and despawn if you aggro the whole camp. I also think you missed the shadow druid rats in the grove, you might have to go through the exposing kagha questline to get them. If you choose to raid the grove with Minthara, all the Tiefling children will die.
I haven't tried it, but they can probably be killed while in rat-form. There is a dialogue option that lets you expose them without confronting Kagha the regular way. I suspect the key is killing them before Halsin returns, since that is when they leave.
You can kill the kids in the grove! If you team up with Minthara she’ll join you to attack the grove with some goblins, and the goblins will kill all of the kids, it’s pretty brutal and there’s some unsettling dialogue when you talk to the ones who did it.
You need halsin to get all the npcs involved in fixing the shadowfell, tho, so you can't attack the Grove with minthara because that implies 6ou killed halsin
Dude, I love Wyll. His lines are corny, yes. But he’s so damn cool. You just hate awesomeness if you can’t appreciate his heroism. That being said, this is a good video.
When you plan to kill a merchant but still want their things, give them a pouch or a backpack, open the pouch/backpack, drag all the items you want in it and then when you kill the merchant, they will have the pouch/backpack on their body
I'm impressed that you thought about Quil. When you picked Durge I was confused at first when you talked about NPCs that you will miss otherwise but then remembered Quil (I don't think you can kill the butler in Act I) and I was kinda expecting you to forget about it. Good for you to lower the expectations by telling your viewers to help you out ;) Nice video, I'm gonna watch the whole trilogy!
"i don't know about you guys, but personally, i think, owning slaves... is wack" is probably the best quote to ever exist on youtube no shot your next sentence rhymes with it too LMAO subscribed
You missed quite a big amount of goblins that can only be killed when you tell Minthara the location of the grove and then defend the grove from Minthara leading the attack as there's a lot of similar enemies that are in the camp, but they're not the same goblins. After you kill all the enemies in the grove siege you can go back to the camp and all the goblins are still there and they're auto hostile towards you.
deactivating the steel watcher is probably top priority there. Even then, the amount of guards and innocents that will be slaughtered... Baahl hit the jackpot with this one
I’ve never had a problem saving him, and if he lives, he’s so grateful to you for saving his life that he’ll write a story about how awesome you are. It’s a really sweet moment.
Having done that in Divinity Original Sin 1&2 i can vouch for Larian being actually very good with this sort of thing in terms of not breaking the game/story. Though, i didnt get around to do it in BG3 yet. Regardless, happy hunting my dude
I mean the main story is quite simple. Skip act1 go to shadow lands trough mountainpass. Get moonlantern, go to shadowfell free or kill nightsong, go to moonrise towers kill kethric and go to act 3 kill gortash. If ur dark urge u can go directly to bhalls temple kill orinand go kill brain the end if not u have to go to saverok to get amulet and then go to bhalls temple
Larian is actually HORRIBLE with this sort of thing Because they do not let u kill children, even clearly evil children that attack you and attempt to kill you (githyanki ones) Which is extremely immersion breaking especially for Durge and entirely avoidable by just having them either not exist or not TRY TO FUCKING MURDER YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE
@@xelloskaczor5051Blame all the people who would be trying to bury the game if it included child murder. There is a reason Fallout 3 and even New Vegas dropped the ability to murder children when it was in OG Fallout.
I don't know if anyone else commented this, but there are more NPC's connected to Kagha *Spoilers btw* Near Ethel's cabin there is an abandoned road that leads to a huge tree. Within said tree there is a letter to Kagha from the Shadow Druids. Confront her and the rats in the druid camp will transform back to their humanoid form and a new combat begins
Honestly I feel really bad, the entire run is technically failed, but I hope he either just continues and points it out, or (god forbid his sanity) loads all the way back and kills them
@@eslin2845 I think that'll only turn them into their normal form, because when a wild shaped ally is killed they just turn back into a human. I'm not sure tho, never tried it that way and I'm going off my friends druid character in our multiplayer game
You can get that location marked on your map also if you discovered Kagha's hidden chest in the grove. There is a letter that says that that's where they meet.
@@dumpykong I just started a similar one on the side going solo and bumped on this video(YT spying on my google search for solo build ideas) and it's confusing you didn't try to murder literally every npc.
The blue jay was lying. He even stole a different bluejays nest. The one you meet him at was a different birds. From this we can easily assume the tiny bluejay has not built a nest using branches. /s
@dumpykong he did. If you look for clues it shows he steals things all the time. And he makes you go up to the eagle parents and kill them very much dead so he may have a penthouse.
@@dumpykong you know actually with the encounter with the eagles there actually was more eagles if you allowed the mother eagle to call for reinforcements
Mirkon (the kid by the Harpies) will die if you don't activate the encounter soon enough, but he can also die in the battle against the Harpies, though it is up to random chance. While the Harpies rarely, if ever, directly target Mirkon for attacks, and he primarily uses the Disengage skill to flee the battle, if one of the Harpies begins singing on a subsequent turn and succeeds in luring him back, he can walk past one of them and trigger an Attack of Opportunity, one-shotting him. Happened to me just last night and cost me 30 minutes because I forgot to save, lol.
I killed him when he disengaged and ran right through a cloud of daggers I'd got going, although that might have been patched out, since he no longer runs directly at the harpies like he did in earlier versions.
Fantastic job. I am surprised how easily you have sliced through some really tough fights. I can't wait to see Act 2 and Act 3. Your blood lust and accounting is quite inspirational. :P
If you just ignore the hapries long enough the child dies. Once you advance the story of Act 1 far enough if he hasn't been saved from the harpies he just dies off screne. Found this out the hard way.
I'm surprised you didn't do the Karlach beheading event. It's as brutal as it sounds and I feel like this is the only kind of run where it would be most appropriate.
u can kill the grove kids by raiding the grove with the gobbos but i am not sure about any other kids So what u should have done is clear out all the gobbos except for the red dude and minthara then sent her to raid the grove from their kill the red dude and raid the grove which spawns new gobbos once the grove and kids are dead u kill the gobbos
I know you can kill goblin kids, because when I rescued Halsin, he killed the ones who were throwing stones at him. Usually they run away as soon as combat starts, but Halsin was before them in initiative, so they did not get to run away.
i thought this would be a hard watch but man your commentary was so good the time flew by. looking forward to act 2 (or maybe even more act 1 judging by all the comments pointing out the shadow druids, mayrina's npcs, florrick's npcs...you got your work cut out for you LMAO)
Also, you missed an opportunuty to kill the Shadow Druids. If you expose Kagha by grabbing the paper from the tree where the woodwoads are three more npcs show up to kill!
Thank you for this. I kinda started to do a run like this for my 2nd playthrough but realizing i have to do everything again kinda turned me off from continuing. Now i can experience that playthrough through these videos :)
You missed out on being able to safely kill Gale by NOT cutting his hand off. This also locks you out of Elminster appearances and any of his unique quest characters, but now that Gale is in your world the only way to kill him is with the Netherese Orb at the end of the game, which results in an ending where everyone DOESN'T die. Cutting of Gale's hand traps him between realms with an open wound and no means of escape, and no way for his orb to go boom and end your game early.
Love the video! And since you asked: you can use the Basilisk Oil to remove the petrified condition from the dwarf in Auntie Etel's Basement. He'll end up dieing on his own since he's effected by a desease and the petrification was stopping it, but by leving him petrified he's tecnically still alive (that's kinda the whole reason why he willingly did that)!
I prevented Ethel from escaping by putting arcane lock on her staircase behind the fireplace leading down, and then proceeded to bludgeon her to death.
if you go into the zaithisk yourself instead of laezel and pass all the saves (lower dc than if laezel does it), your main character will be able to use all the tadpole powers as a bonus action instead of an action for the rest of the game
31:46 raphael is a devil, not a demon Devils in dungeons and dragons originate from the hells and are lawful evil Demons are from the abyss and are chaotic evil
12:32 the first time watching this I thought you were making up what that sounded like. Well I just got to it in my resisting the dark urge playthrough (I knocked out Alferia hoping to save her) and was shocked when I heard that that sound is unaltered
in the creche with the zei'thisk or however its spelled, whoever gets inside of it will receive a debuff based on where you failed your saving rolls, but if you pass all 3 rolls in the thing you instead get the "awakened" buff which makes all of your Illithid powers bonus actions instead of actions. granted itll always explode so its whoever goes in gets it
Your video has made me think that when I do this kind of run, I will deliberately keep alive any NPC in an earlier act that reappears later, so that it opens up the other quests and NPCs. So I can do them in at the later stage. Props.
if you don't rescue the tiefling child from the harpies until after you have laid waste to the goblins and allowed the tieflings to travel past easily, the child will be dead. technically you killed him from negligence.
My theory is that the Blue Jay is not telling the truth about the nests in the creshe portion of the game 1. Blue Jays are known for stealing the nests of other birds 2. The nest in question is way too large for it to be a Blue Jay nest 3. Giant eagles are naturally neutral good creatures in DnD
I'm pretty sure Mayrina has to be rescued and stay alive until act 3 as there's 3 other NPC's that are connected to the quest: Avenge the Hag Survivors that appear in Old Garlow's Place if Mayrina has been rescued and is alive.
I'm sure people have already said this but you could have let that kid die if you got close enough to hear the song but then proceeded to go back to camp and sleep instead of getting close enough to engage in conversation or combat
For killing playable characters: you can technically kill them anytime, but there are circumstances where they can die permanently. Lae’zel is the easiest, you get SO many opportunities to let her die, e.g. letting Shadowheart kill her. Astarian can be killed in the scene where he tries to suck you. Karlach is dead. Wyll can be killed if you raid the Druid grove with him and Minthara (who can be killed immediately after iirc). Shart can be killed in the Shadowfell if you don’t let her kill (spoilers) the Nightsong. Minsc can be killed in his initial battle, and I think as long as you kill Jaheira before the assault on Moonrise, you’re good. From what I remember, none of these deaths lock you out of any unique kills. Cazador, Voss, Lady DeVriska, and Ravengard all still appear iirc. However if you kill Halsin too early, you don’t get access to Thaniel. I’m not actually sure if Thaniel can die, so this might be moot. Orin can kill him later anyway. Lastly, Gale. He can die in the portal you meet him in, but that locks you out of Elminster. He can’t actually die, but where’s the fun if you can’t even beat up an old man(‘s construct he’s using as a body)? After that, you should let Gale explode during the Netherbrain fight, so both he and your Durge die. (: Also, nitpick, lorewise Shovel doesn’t really die. She’s from the hells, so she respawns back there, like Yurgir. But gamewise she’s effectively dead since you didn’t learn the scroll, so whatever.
You can actually kill Mirkon at the harpies by defeating the entire goblin camp without visiting that area first or interacting with him. If you do that they will kill him and you can find his body!
Technically if you kill Karlach, she returns to Avernus, so shes not dead Dead, Shes dead in the Material Realm; and once again a soldier in Zariel's infernal army...Her worst fear...
So, fun fact, the Tiefling children CAN be killed as can the kid on the beach. The kid on the beach is easy, I have just had the harpies attack him before and he can die, also, if you go to the area, see him, leave, then come back, he's body is just left on the beach. As for the other children, if you attack the grove with Minthara and the Goblins, you can't kill them but if you go to their hideout, you find a few goblins walking around and all their dead bodies. Honestly, it's super dark and weird that you can do it! You might not want to do these things as doing them might mean you miss other killable characters but yeah, while you can't murder children your self, the kids in the game can certainly die!
I tried something like this and gave up on it in Act III, because dealing with the Flaming Fist spawns is.... interesting. There was a spot near the stage in the Circus with three civilians, none of whom run away when you attack one of the others. Each one summons three Flaming Fist when you attack them. Finding this out was the worst time I've had in this entire game. On the other hand, I attacked the Murder Tribunal target outside of the Blushing Mermaid, aggroed the whole tavern, and had a blast. Attacking the bank instead of talking my way in was also really fun. Just maybe take down the Steel Watchers as early as possible in Act III.
Also fun fact: if you kill everyone in the grove before you talk to Minthara, you can tell her about it and then it skips to the goblins being in charge of the grove. No raid and no party.
There's an awesome irony inbcalling the spectator a Doom extra, when you consider that the monster he's referring to (cacodemon) was taken from the head of a DnD monster, the astral dreadnought. Love it!
I will say Counceller Florrick *might* be required to be fed 2 tasty morsels due to refusing the deal Wyll is offered if you try to break his pact in act 2. I'm pretty sure refusing this deal is already required for Mizora to feed you even more morsels by trying to get what she offers anyways(since she summons adds to stop you) but refusing the deal also has Florrick bring her allies(which is another fucking quest you have to do to make sure she is free in act 3) and those allies *might* be unique to that encounter. Either that or someone else replaces her but if not Florrick has to live technically. I also don't think you can kill Isobel right away because you want to progress Halsin's quest to get his feeding frenzy of morsels from portal defense and that seems to only trigger after Isobel's fight which I think means the optimal strat is to kill the grove to 1 person, and if the raiders on the grove are unique raid the grove and betray Minthara to get those kills and if the raiders are not unique then make sure the last person in the grove is a druid who can complete the rite of thorns. If the grove is thorned off Halsin will join your camp but not if it's raided with you helping the raiders. You can also raid the grove with only Zevlor remaining since you can kill him later but don't fry him in act 2 since freeing him gives more adds in the fight than would be fried without freeing them. If you don't care about maximizing kill count ignore me and just make sure to clear the prison in Moonrise before and during the raid to make sure the guards there are dealt with
40:43 Incorrect use of the word psychotic. Psychosis is a symptom of mental illnesses (probably most well known with, but not exclusive to, schizophrenia) where your brain struggles to determine what is real and what is not. Psychotic is not a synonym for insane, violent, maniacal, et cetera. I comment this every time I see someone misuse the word because I don't think they're *trying* to insult the mentally ill, they probably just don't know. Otherwise, great video. Humorously, one of the most in-depth ones I've ever seen, given the goal.
10:40 The kid can die if he gets too close to the harpy singing on the rocks. I found that out after he kept failing the saves to get away, he was lured all the way across. She basically one shot him.
If I recall correctly I remember someone “killing” withers by using the Flesh to Gold spell (obtained via the signed trade visa, dropped from Gerringothe Thorm after giving her at least 5k gold.)
Thats bizarre that they put a cutscene in the game just in case you left one of your party members in a completely different part of the map while doing something else. Amazed that someone even figured that out
If anything, killing Oscar spawns more NPCs for you to kill because there’s an art party at Lady Janneth’s instead of a haunting. You just won’t get to kill Oscar’s lost lover ghost.
Remember you can use Gale at the end to nuke your party so there's legitimately nobody left
not even at the end of the game xD you can go boom before even the Myrkul fight, killing the three and the Absolute
@@XorsosedutoXwell then you can’t murder act 3
Gale teleports you and your party away before nuking the brain though
@@MrWolfxmanif you use “netherese orb blast” as an attack during the fight on the brain you’ll get an ending where Gale kills your whole party and the brain
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by being Dark Urge, he can kill his entire party at the very end of the game
“No one was particularly pleased”
*Astarion Approves*
Story of the game tbh
astarion was first on my kill list
"I might be a murderer but Owning slaves is where I draw the line"
Atleast he has his convictions.
Lawful evil
“Professionals have standards”
Nothing wrong with owning a few slaves
A man's gotta have a code.
I didnt own them i killed them for astarions approval
There is indeed a unique character for Karlach! There's a date scene with her, and if you kill the barman before the date, his brother spawns in his place.
True but he only appears in that one cutscene and nowhere else so he’s unreachable regardless if you see that cutscene or not
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Technically he’s still reachable via a variant of the “shadow boxing” speedrun tech where you can then enter the debug rooms and kill him there, although that’s not really a feasible or legitimate way of doing things…
In act 3 make sure to pick up that body that has a necrotic aura in cazador’s mansion then run through the streets of the gate
YES
don't you die too tho
@@highdefinition450not if you use an immunity potion
@uraverageskeleton6480 there is a immunity potion?
@@bosunbill9059 yeah it’s called the Elixir of Necrotic Resistance
Fun fact - The blue jay is actually a bad guy, and if you knock out the eagles instead of killing them, the jay will come and finish them off in front of you and tells you it wasn't really his nest!
I also remember having read somewhere that Eagles are good-aligned creatures in the original D&D Handbooks, so it wouldn't really make sense for them to take over another bird's nest, and the jay is way too small for the huge eagle nest.
I was so devastated when this happened I love eagles and I really thought it’d work 😭
Your crime against Scratch will never be forgotten Dumpy. What will you say when god confronts you about what you did.
"Let's judge your sins real quick... Hmm, other than the basics, you're all good! Wait, I'm getting a call... Hmm... Check what he did in videogames? Alright, fine."
"WE'RE MAKING A NEW LAYER OF HELL FOR YOU"
* Turns to god *
"Looks like i forgot to kill someone"
"I was just having a Ruff day...."
scratch is overrated lol
@@highdefinition450 Your mother
You actually can kill the kids! The first time I did the harpy mission he ran away without disengage and got his shit rocked by a harpy
The rest all die if you side with Minthara and attack the grove too!
Same here.
you're killing kids while freeing halsin too
@@THATWHICHCHILLS And the replacement tieflings end up as corpses at the party. So technically the decision to side with the tieflings didn't change much.
Killing Volo before act 3 means you won't spawn all those NPCs that tie him to the exploding barrels
He gets tied up in act 3? I'm doing an (sort of) evil run with my sorceror & left him in the goblin camp in that cage with Dribbo 😂
Does he get blown up, or something, if u don't rescue him when he's tied up?
@@animegamergeek1427 Yes actually. They have him tied up on a cart that's loaded with smokepowder barrels, with a trail of firewine leading away. There's an NPC that will throw a torch into the firewine, thus lighting it on fire, which of course lights the cart on fire. If the cart continues to burn, it will eventually ignite the smokepowder and boom, roaste de Volo.
@@theoperator3712 yeah, I just watched a video about it a couple minutes ago. The one I saw had it blow up as soon as the npc hit it with an bottle, or whatever it was.
I'll just leave him in the goblin camp
@@animegamergeek1427 Yes. Precisely. You find him tied up by some cultists, and only get a couple turns to save him from the fire.
@@sabrina0013 damn
You can also kill Mizora, and doing so sends Wyll down to the hells.
True but it doesn’t _really_ kill her, just sends her back to Hell, since you can only truly kill a devil in Hell. I’ve heard that if you do kill her she finds your camp to scream at you for losing Wyll but I did that in my run and she hasn’t shown up yet so I honestly don’t know
I like how Halsin still wants to join you for saving the grove after you literally slaughtered all of the people there yourself
Omg I did this in my honor run. I stole the idol and agro all the druids and killed them all. Tieflings too. So surprised halsin still joined, but I ended up romancing him and even got the ending where we stayed together at an orphanage :)
@@dirtiestdan4756 his lust for you was greater than saving the Grove
You forgot the shadow druids, Kagha's rats that only turn into humans if you expose her plotting.
According to D&D Beyond, a group of goblins is called "A Gob."
A gob and a stench are both great groupings 😁
Awe, I’ve always called them a “Glob”
In Ethels Lair, you can heal the guy who was turned into stone with a basilisk(?) potion. Another easily missed NPC.
he returns to normal even without that if you kill Ethel
You can also just kill his ass regardless
@@somebird4757But if you use the basilisk oil on him before Ethel is killed, he dies from the "Bite" she infected him
"Rafael is a demon"
I can already hear dnd fans explaining the difference between demons and devils.
Well actually Rafael is a cambion not a devil
Im sorry I just had to
@ghostpond is he? I mean, he kind of looks like he is a cambion, but he presents more as a Duke of the nine. A cambion is born of the union of devil and human. I haven't finished the game though, I've only reach act 3 recently and met his warlock.
@@reeceandben4876 well atleast every wiki says so but if raphael would be a full devil I think he would be a lot stronger and I think it is mentioned somewhere in game but I cant remember where.
And raphaels dad is archdevil mephistolies so he gets little special treatment so that is why he carries himself as a duke
@@ghostpond he's definitely a cambion, you can say something along the lines of 'pfft he's just a cambion we can take him' to Astarion as a Warlock specific option after you first meet Raphael, and he disapproves and tells you you're a cocky idiot lmao
@@ghostpondaren’t cambions devils???
Before watching the video. There is a replacement for every single tiefling in the emerald grove party if they die. And replacements to those replacements. And they are all named
A freaking PARTY in BG 3 is better designed than most of the modern AAA games...
The kid down on the beach dies if you don’t do anything. You can find his body if you go there after resolving (one way or another) the grove. Not sure about the other kids though.
Bro it doesnt even matter, my team will just fall to the chant immediately
Jk
Thanks Mol
Bruh in honor mode the harpy murked the kid I was pissed about it
The tiefling Kids die if you raid the grove
Theres a child??
I think he metaphorically killed Raphael by calling him a demon.
Quick note; you can remove the bloodless penalty with lesser restoration. A level 2 cleric spell. Second quick note: there's an amulet for free 1/day lesser restoration under a rock in the grove, down at the beach where the bear you murdered is.
Basically, giving Astarion the happy buff by letting him bite you every day (or someone else) is entirely free.
As a secondary minor aside which I should have waited to comment for: you can keep Mayrina's brothers alive by usning non-lethal mode after siding with Ethel. There's even a special dialogue for it when you talk to Mayrina. However she still reacts as if they've ben killed and nothing further comes of it. Not helpful for a "kill everyone" run, but an interesting interaction that was accounted for, then ignored.
Alternatively just have him slurp the first person he sees
You can also just use a hireling as a bloodbag and get the buff at no resource cost.
You can also keep them alive by being non-comital and unhelpful in their dialogue. They'll survive the redcaps and Ethel sends them to a farm outside of Baldur's Gate to make them disappear@@KodyackCasual
But he can just bite a bad guy for FREE so why would anyone ever PAY a cast to get the buff
You missed your chance with Gale at the beginning.. his severed hand looks so nice in the Dark Urge's inventory.
FYI, you missed the three goblin kids outside the camp near Crusher. They're like the Zhents inside and despawn if you aggro the whole camp. I also think you missed the shadow druid rats in the grove, you might have to go through the exposing kagha questline to get them.
If you choose to raid the grove with Minthara, all the Tiefling children will die.
I haven't tried it, but they can probably be killed while in rat-form. There is a dialogue option that lets you expose them without confronting Kagha the regular way. I suspect the key is killing them before Halsin returns, since that is when they leave.
yes was about to bring up the shadow druids!
You can still kill all the tieflings in act 2 by betraying last light.
@@TheBoromirDonkey They transform as if you killed them in wildshape, which I guess is probably the case. But yeah they fight you.
He also forgot the 3 mimics in grymforge and the boar near the cliff where you recruit astarion.
You can kill the kids in the grove! If you team up with Minthara she’ll join you to attack the grove with some goblins, and the goblins will kill all of the kids, it’s pretty brutal and there’s some unsettling dialogue when you talk to the ones who did it.
Plus there's the two goblin kids you see throwing rocks at Halsin, they're also in the room when he escapes and the fight starts.
@@jetex1911Lmao, I remember sniping those ones when they went to get the guards while I was fighting in the Worg pen.
@@martyr_lightsilver1833 I was playing a Durge Monk and they had enough strength to _wield_ them.
You need halsin to get all the npcs involved in fixing the shadowfell, tho, so you can't attack the Grove with minthara because that implies 6ou killed halsin
you are the person I was warned about when hosting D&D Games
Dude, I love Wyll. His lines are corny, yes. But he’s so damn cool. You just hate awesomeness if you can’t appreciate his heroism. That being said, this is a good video.
When you plan to kill a merchant but still want their things, give them a pouch or a backpack, open the pouch/backpack, drag all the items you want in it and then when you kill the merchant, they will have the pouch/backpack on their body
Wait really? That is super op lol
@@drschwandi3687 yep, Hope it doesn’t get patched soon lol
This will 100% get patched, (at least on honor mode)
This is brilliant thank you!
or just use mods and not be fail if you want extra crap.
I cannot stand for the Wyll slander. He is my perfect prince and you better leave him alone >:(
You forgot to kill the 3 shadow druids which only appear if you reveal Kagha's past
oh yeah they were the rats in the grove and in the back of the swamp for that ambush
@@JChosen53 But he should be able to kill them in their rat form.
Also the part of the swamp you have to do for that quest line.
kills the witch terrorizing everyone finds a basement full of people ecstatic to be finally freed and just has to lay them all out LMAO
you can kill withers by draining his intelligence and then absorb intellect, works with mizora too
No way
Though how do you drain mizoras stats without her tping
@@qwart22 she eventually returns and you keep doing it
@zenotheeleatic2940 but he's a being with a health bar in game, so why not
@zenotheeleatic2940 I mean, you can *definitely* kill gods in the Forgotten Realms. It's not easy, certainly, but it *can* be done.
I'm impressed that you thought about Quil. When you picked Durge I was confused at first when you talked about NPCs that you will miss otherwise but then remembered Quil (I don't think you can kill the butler in Act I) and I was kinda expecting you to forget about it. Good for you to lower the expectations by telling your viewers to help you out ;)
Nice video, I'm gonna watch the whole trilogy!
Can't wait for the finale. The cutscene before the final battle (where your allies cheer you on) is going to be hilarious!
"i don't know about you guys, but personally, i think, owning slaves... is wack" is probably the best quote to ever exist on youtube
no shot your next sentence rhymes with it too LMAO
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Fun fact, you CAN kill Withers
with ability drain: intelligence and devour intellect
You missed quite a big amount of goblins that can only be killed when you tell Minthara the location of the grove and then defend the grove from Minthara leading the attack as there's a lot of similar enemies that are in the camp, but they're not the same goblins. After you kill all the enemies in the grove siege you can go back to the camp and all the goblins are still there and they're auto hostile towards you.
13:09 thank you for using a smite to nake sure it only takes one hit. It means a lot
This was so much more entertaining than I thought it would be. I know this had to of taken just an absurd amount of time.
Act 3 is going to be insane
deactivating the steel watcher is probably top priority there. Even then, the amount of guards and innocents that will be slaughtered... Baahl hit the jackpot with this one
and broken as hell lol
every time i fought the harpies that child died, so definitely possible💀
You can save the child.
I’ve never had a problem saving him, and if he lives, he’s so grateful to you for saving his life that he’ll write a story about how awesome you are. It’s a really sweet moment.
Having done that in Divinity Original Sin 1&2 i can vouch for Larian being actually very good with this sort of thing in terms of not breaking the game/story. Though, i didnt get around to do it in BG3 yet. Regardless, happy hunting my dude
Larian wants you to play however you want, and if you want to be a murder hobo that's perfectly justified in their eyes
That just shows how meaningless these npcs are.
I mean the main story is quite simple.
Skip act1 go to shadow lands trough mountainpass. Get moonlantern, go to shadowfell free or kill nightsong, go to moonrise towers kill kethric and go to act 3 kill gortash. If ur dark urge u can go directly to bhalls temple kill orinand go kill brain the end if not u have to go to saverok to get amulet and then go to bhalls temple
Larian is actually HORRIBLE with this sort of thing
Because they do not let u kill children, even clearly evil children that attack you and attempt to kill you (githyanki ones)
Which is extremely immersion breaking especially for Durge and entirely avoidable by just having them either not exist or not TRY TO FUCKING MURDER YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE
@@xelloskaczor5051Blame all the people who would be trying to bury the game if it included child murder. There is a reason Fallout 3 and even New Vegas dropped the ability to murder children when it was in OG Fallout.
"like a weed-whacker to a baby's soft spot" is something only a broken man would say, i hope you recover from these "kill all NPCs" challenges
I don't know if anyone else commented this, but there are more NPC's connected to Kagha *Spoilers btw*
Near Ethel's cabin there is an abandoned road that leads to a huge tree. Within said tree there is a letter to Kagha from the Shadow Druids. Confront her and the rats in the druid camp will transform back to their humanoid form and a new combat begins
Was gonna comment the exact same thing
Honestly I feel really bad, the entire run is technically failed, but I hope he either just continues and points it out, or (god forbid his sanity) loads all the way back and kills them
I think you can just attack the rats outright to get them
@@eslin2845 I think that'll only turn them into their normal form, because when a wild shaped ally is killed they just turn back into a human. I'm not sure tho, never tried it that way and I'm going off my friends druid character in our multiplayer game
You can get that location marked on your map also if you discovered Kagha's hidden chest in the grove. There is a letter that says that that's where they meet.
Imagine doing a manslaughter run without biting off Gale's hand, or killing Shadowheart(I'd kill her even on a normal run, she's so annoying)
You are crazier than I am
@@dumpykong I just started a similar one on the side going solo and bumped on this video(YT spying on my google search for solo build ideas) and it's confusing you didn't try to murder literally every npc.
The blue jay was lying. He even stole a different bluejays nest. The one you meet him at was a different birds. From this we can easily assume the tiny bluejay has not built a nest using branches. /s
He tricked me 😭?
@dumpykong he did. If you look for clues it shows he steals things all the time. And he makes you go up to the eagle parents and kill them very much dead so he may have a penthouse.
BRUH.
@@shimotuazuma9485 If you knock out the Eagles he flies up and finishes them off too. He's kind of a dick
@@dumpykong you know actually with the encounter with the eagles there actually was more eagles if you allowed the mother eagle to call for reinforcements
You forgot the shadow druids
Mirkon (the kid by the Harpies) will die if you don't activate the encounter soon enough, but he can also die in the battle against the Harpies, though it is up to random chance. While the Harpies rarely, if ever, directly target Mirkon for attacks, and he primarily uses the Disengage skill to flee the battle, if one of the Harpies begins singing on a subsequent turn and succeeds in luring him back, he can walk past one of them and trigger an Attack of Opportunity, one-shotting him. Happened to me just last night and cost me 30 minutes because I forgot to save, lol.
I killed him when he disengaged and ran right through a cloud of daggers I'd got going, although that might have been patched out, since he no longer runs directly at the harpies like he did in earlier versions.
Every time I try to save the boy from the harpies he dies
Oathbreaker Durge who kills everyone with a black and red color theme is the most edgy thing I've ever seen
ITS PERFECT
I wanted to like this but I'm gonna let the 69 likes stay
the ultimate murderhobo build
Oathbreaker was like "ALREADY?!"
Fantastic job.
I am surprised how easily you have sliced through some really tough fights.
I can't wait to see Act 2 and Act 3. Your blood lust and accounting is quite inspirational. :P
If you just ignore the hapries long enough the child dies. Once you advance the story of Act 1 far enough if he hasn't been saved from the harpies he just dies off screne. Found this out the hard way.
I'm surprised you didn't do the Karlach beheading event. It's as brutal as it sounds and I feel like this is the only kind of run where it would be most appropriate.
It's fun you can collect trophies like Karlachs head and Gales hand :)
New Idea: You're Lawful Good, but you have to do every Dark Urge dialogue
u can kill the grove kids by raiding the grove with the gobbos but i am not sure about any other kids
So what u should have done is clear out all the gobbos except for the red dude and minthara then sent her to raid the grove from their kill the red dude and raid the grove which spawns new gobbos once the grove and kids are dead u kill the gobbos
Only issue is that would mean halsin isn’t there and halsin is the only way to access certain NPCs during his unique quest where you find thaniel
I know you can kill goblin kids, because when I rescued Halsin, he killed the ones who were throwing stones at him. Usually they run away as soon as combat starts, but Halsin was before them in initiative, so they did not get to run away.
The audio bonk for Scratch made me audibly gasp.
This must have been so hard to do xD
i thought this would be a hard watch but man your commentary was so good the time flew by. looking forward to act 2 (or maybe even more act 1 judging by all the comments pointing out the shadow druids, mayrina's npcs, florrick's npcs...you got your work cut out for you LMAO)
Also, you missed an opportunuty to kill the Shadow Druids. If you expose Kagha by grabbing the paper from the tree where the woodwoads are three more npcs show up to kill!
right before Scratch went to be a good boy in a happier place I got an ad. The timing couldn't have been more perfect
Thank you for this. I kinda started to do a run like this for my 2nd playthrough but realizing i have to do everything again kinda turned me off from continuing. Now i can experience that playthrough through these videos :)
You missed out on being able to safely kill Gale by NOT cutting his hand off.
This also locks you out of Elminster appearances and any of his unique quest characters, but now that Gale is in your world the only way to kill him is with the Netherese Orb at the end of the game, which results in an ending where everyone DOESN'T die.
Cutting of Gale's hand traps him between realms with an open wound and no means of escape, and no way for his orb to go boom and end your game early.
Plot twist, that dwarf you shoved into the water was the only survivor, and you said you killed everyone! Blasphemy!
Love the video! And since you asked: you can use the Basilisk Oil to remove the petrified condition from the dwarf in Auntie Etel's Basement. He'll end up dieing on his own since he's effected by a desease and the petrification was stopping it, but by leving him petrified he's tecnically still alive (that's kinda the whole reason why he willingly did that)!
he unpetrifies when ethyl dies, and you can kill him normally then
I prevented Ethel from escaping by putting arcane lock on her staircase behind the fireplace leading down, and then proceeded to bludgeon her to death.
if you go into the zaithisk yourself instead of laezel and pass all the saves (lower dc than if laezel does it), your main character will be able to use all the tadpole powers as a bonus action instead of an action for the rest of the game
I put Laezel in, convinced her to stay in till the end, and still could cast the illithid powers as a bonus action as my main character.
@@szarixon2798Same, only I put Astarion in because he asked.
In an ending the dark urge can actually be the last living thing in all the realms
Missed the minotaurs
Nice someone else did notice
"Their names are really fucking ugly"
My sister is called Eef lmao
31:46 raphael is a devil, not a demon
Devils in dungeons and dragons originate from the hells and are lawful evil
Demons are from the abyss and are chaotic evil
☝️🤓
classy evil = devil
horrific evil = demon
well acthually
Raphael is a Cambion, not a Devil. He's actually even less cool.
Nope he is a half devil. His father is the lord of the 8th layer and his mom was a random woman.
12:32 the first time watching this I thought you were making up what that sounded like. Well I just got to it in my resisting the dark urge playthrough (I knocked out Alferia hoping to save her) and was shocked when I heard that that sound is unaltered
I wanted to do this after I finished my first playthrough but was never able to suffer through it.
I tried to do an evil durge run. It turned into a good run at Arabella. Being evil in bg3 hits different.
in the creche with the zei'thisk or however its spelled, whoever gets inside of it will receive a debuff based on where you failed your saving rolls, but if you pass all 3 rolls in the thing you instead get the "awakened" buff which makes all of your Illithid powers bonus actions instead of actions. granted itll always explode so its whoever goes in gets it
Your video has made me think that when I do this kind of run, I will deliberately keep alive any NPC in an earlier act that reappears later, so that it opens up the other quests and NPCs. So I can do them in at the later stage. Props.
This is the way. Planning to record such a run myself eventually.
if you don't rescue the tiefling child from the harpies until after you have laid waste to the goblins and allowed the tieflings to travel past easily, the child will be dead. technically you killed him from negligence.
I see another tragedy of the Bhaalspawn is that they are unable to appreciate the gold of Wyll's line.
My theory is that the Blue Jay is not telling the truth about the nests in the creshe portion of the game
1. Blue Jays are known for stealing the nests of other birds
2. The nest in question is way too large for it to be a Blue Jay nest
3. Giant eagles are naturally neutral good creatures in DnD
Raphael is not a demon btw, he's a devil. Big difference in DND, in the infernal realm they are kind of opposites
Hate to be the guy but he’s a half-devil half- human.
should've called your character "deadpool" and called this series "Deadpool kills the baldurs gate universe"
Larian: Oh boy I can't wait to see what content people make of our game!
Larian after seeing the content: :O
After your apparent aversion to males in the vampire discussion, I was surprised you had a male guardian.
I'm pretty sure Mayrina has to be rescued and stay alive until act 3 as there's 3 other NPC's that are connected to the quest: Avenge the Hag Survivors that appear in Old Garlow's Place if Mayrina has been rescued and is alive.
I'm sure people have already said this but you could have let that kid die if you got close enough to hear the song but then proceeded to go back to camp and sleep instead of getting close enough to engage in conversation or combat
For killing playable characters: you can technically kill them anytime, but there are circumstances where they can die permanently.
Lae’zel is the easiest, you get SO many opportunities to let her die, e.g. letting Shadowheart kill her. Astarian can be killed in the scene where he tries to suck you. Karlach is dead. Wyll can be killed if you raid the Druid grove with him and Minthara (who can be killed immediately after iirc). Shart can be killed in the Shadowfell if you don’t let her kill (spoilers) the Nightsong. Minsc can be killed in his initial battle, and I think as long as you kill Jaheira before the assault on Moonrise, you’re good.
From what I remember, none of these deaths lock you out of any unique kills. Cazador, Voss, Lady DeVriska, and Ravengard all still appear iirc. However if you kill Halsin too early, you don’t get access to Thaniel. I’m not actually sure if Thaniel can die, so this might be moot. Orin can kill him later anyway. Lastly, Gale. He can die in the portal you meet him in, but that locks you out of Elminster. He can’t actually die, but where’s the fun if you can’t even beat up an old man(‘s construct he’s using as a body)? After that, you should let Gale explode during the Netherbrain fight, so both he and your Durge die. (:
Also, nitpick, lorewise Shovel doesn’t really die. She’s from the hells, so she respawns back there, like Yurgir. But gamewise she’s effectively dead since you didn’t learn the scroll, so whatever.
You can actually kill Mirkon at the harpies by defeating the entire goblin camp without visiting that area first or interacting with him. If you do that they will kill him and you can find his body!
missed the shadow druids
@@GoadedGoblinhe got those. It was shown briefly but not narrated
Technically if you kill Karlach, she returns to Avernus, so shes not dead Dead, Shes dead in the Material Realm; and once again a soldier in Zariel's infernal army...Her worst fear...
So, fun fact, the Tiefling children CAN be killed as can the kid on the beach.
The kid on the beach is easy, I have just had the harpies attack him before and he can die, also, if you go to the area, see him, leave, then come back, he's body is just left on the beach.
As for the other children, if you attack the grove with Minthara and the Goblins, you can't kill them but if you go to their hideout, you find a few goblins walking around and all their dead bodies. Honestly, it's super dark and weird that you can do it!
You might not want to do these things as doing them might mean you miss other killable characters but yeah, while you can't murder children your self, the kids in the game can certainly die!
congratulations youve been chosen to be my sleep video for this month, i will keep returning as i will never finish the video before i fall asleep
I tried something like this and gave up on it in Act III, because dealing with the Flaming Fist spawns is.... interesting. There was a spot near the stage in the Circus with three civilians, none of whom run away when you attack one of the others. Each one summons three Flaming Fist when you attack them. Finding this out was the worst time I've had in this entire game.
On the other hand, I attacked the Murder Tribunal target outside of the Blushing Mermaid, aggroed the whole tavern, and had a blast. Attacking the bank instead of talking my way in was also really fun. Just maybe take down the Steel Watchers as early as possible in Act III.
Also fun fact: if you kill everyone in the grove before you talk to Minthara, you can tell her about it and then it skips to the goblins being in charge of the grove. No raid and no party.
It's hilarious to me that you couldn't kill Mirkon when the harpies ganked him turn 1 on my first playthrough.
the child in the beach can die, aradin bring many npc against you in act 3, new gobelins appears if you attack the grove with minthara
There's an awesome irony inbcalling the spectator a Doom extra, when you consider that the monster he's referring to (cacodemon) was taken from the head of a DnD monster, the astral dreadnought. Love it!
I will say Counceller Florrick *might* be required to be fed 2 tasty morsels due to refusing the deal Wyll is offered if you try to break his pact in act 2. I'm pretty sure refusing this deal is already required for Mizora to feed you even more morsels by trying to get what she offers anyways(since she summons adds to stop you) but refusing the deal also has Florrick bring her allies(which is another fucking quest you have to do to make sure she is free in act 3) and those allies *might* be unique to that encounter. Either that or someone else replaces her but if not Florrick has to live technically.
I also don't think you can kill Isobel right away because you want to progress Halsin's quest to get his feeding frenzy of morsels from portal defense and that seems to only trigger after Isobel's fight which I think means the optimal strat is to kill the grove to 1 person, and if the raiders on the grove are unique raid the grove and betray Minthara to get those kills and if the raiders are not unique then make sure the last person in the grove is a druid who can complete the rite of thorns. If the grove is thorned off Halsin will join your camp but not if it's raided with you helping the raiders. You can also raid the grove with only Zevlor remaining since you can kill him later but don't fry him in act 2 since freeing him gives more adds in the fight than would be fried without freeing them.
If you don't care about maximizing kill count ignore me and just make sure to clear the prison in Moonrise before and during the raid to make sure the guards there are dealt with
40:43
Incorrect use of the word psychotic. Psychosis is a symptom of mental illnesses (probably most well known with, but not exclusive to, schizophrenia) where your brain struggles to determine what is real and what is not. Psychotic is not a synonym for insane, violent, maniacal, et cetera. I comment this every time I see someone misuse the word because I don't think they're *trying* to insult the mentally ill, they probably just don't know.
Otherwise, great video. Humorously, one of the most in-depth ones I've ever seen, given the goal.
10:40 The kid can die if he gets too close to the harpy singing on the rocks. I found that out after he kept failing the saves to get away, he was lured all the way across. She basically one shot him.
"I just want to be able to walk around this massive world and not find any life", ah the ol' starfield treatment i see
after the newest patch you can actually have minthara as a companion even if you kill the goblins you just have to knock her unconsious
Can't believe you chose Lae'zel over Minthara. Like she is THE PERFECT candidate for this playthrough
If I recall correctly I remember someone “killing” withers by using the Flesh to Gold spell (obtained via the signed trade visa, dropped from Gerringothe Thorm after giving her at least 5k gold.)
Thats bizarre that they put a cutscene in the game just in case you left one of your party members in a completely different part of the map while doing something else. Amazed that someone even figured that out
You miss the undead army guarding the way to the shadow cursed lands
If anything, killing Oscar spawns more NPCs for you to kill because there’s an art party at Lady Janneth’s instead of a haunting. You just won’t get to kill Oscar’s lost lover ghost.
Or all those poltergeists. Which really is a win.