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The hallucination scenes showed the disconnect Vi and Jinx had in regards to their past. Vi fights for those that are gone and brought them up to remind “Powder”. But those same faces and voices are the ones that have been torturing Jinx for years. Vi wanted to return to the past. Jinx wanted to escape her’s.
@@pretentiousname01 Probably a little bit of both but definitely more the latter. He doesn't spaz-out nearly as much even when Vi was openly asking Jinx to leave with her.
Yeah I love this about arcane- a lot of shows present a certain "right way" to get through to a oerson, when in reality what people need is different and Vi and Jinx's relationships to the past and the people they've lost is a perfect example. Vi is saying what SHE would need to hear, which is exactly what people tend to do, without realising how much it hurts jinx rather than helping. It just hoes to show how much thought went into every aspect of the characters
Also u can see like those monsters that are towering over her in that scene are the ones she remember because u see like their faces get scratched in a fast glimps of red blue monster and then u see those same monsters in full shape towering over her so that shows that her memory’s of them are just not the same as vi and sadly vi isn’t equipped to understand and see that vi in the end was hurting powder and I think silco in the end was the only one that understood to a limited extent of where jinx was at mentally that’s why I think when silco says “your perfect” not jinx is perfect made jinx feel what she wanted and also influenced her final choice because in the end vi haven’t accepted the jinx part of powder she haven’t even acknowledge jinx and jinx is a bigger part of powder than powder is apart of her the fact vi couldn’t accept her now is what made jinx feel like vi changed that vi doesn’t love her anymore that jinx actually disturbs vi and u can some what see it when silco accepts that and also some what accepts the powder in her as well it’s very well done I think silco was manipulative but I think a lot of it have to do with his own abandonment issues as u can see whenever jinx and his relationship is threatened he slips up his cool demeanor is gone he wasn’t worried about vi he was more worried with how vi would affect jinx it always circle round to him and jinx he needs her by his side and I think that stems from his own abandonment issues but jinx cost silco more than he gained from her realistically money shimmer all that he wanted her to make the weapon yes but she overall costed silco more and caused more problems for him than solutions so I think his manipulation comes more so from his need to keep his daughter more so than needing her to gain
I'm gonna give you a like because I read that in Dan Povenmire's voice, but I'm commenting because I also want you to understand I'm deeply upset with you.
Silco understands Jinx' insanity in a way Vi doesn't. Vi is accidentally torturing Jinx by forcing the past on her, and expecting her to want to go back to being Powder, who was helpless in the face of the reality that she killed her family. Silco pulls the gun on Vi to protect Jinx from that onslaught, accidentally triggering Jinx' trigger-happy loss of control, which he brushed off in episode 4. Silco, understanding how the guilt of killing her family brutalized Jinx last time, spends his last breathe showing Jinx that he not only accepts her for who she is, flaws and all, but does not blame her for killing him. He makes sure that 'he' won't be haunting her as a voice in her head. Jinx, realizing how unconditional Silco's love for her really was, both accepts his forgiveness, and realizes what she has just lost, in his death. She can never be Powder again, because the pain and guilt would be unbearable, and, with Silco's blessing, chooses to be Jinx forevermore.
>He makes sure that 'he' won't be haunting her as a voice in her head. Yeah, but... wouldn't it be AWESOME for him to be the sane voice in her head in season 2?
@@davididiart5934 Yes. I need more Silco. When I finished S1 I already missed him even though the season ends right after his death. So yes, give us flashback scenes, have him be the sane voice in her head.
@@davididiart5934 considering Silco's fondness for sea monsters in act 1, it's possible that the show's version of Fishbones (the rocket launcher, who Jinx thinks says things like "buy a home and save for retirement") will be his voice, so that could actually be the case
I like to think, that Vander looked down on him at that moment and was smiling a bit. Like, now you know what it feels like to be in my shoes, brother.
@zzziie well now that we know arcane isnt canon it could happen, im not betting on it though i feel like his daughter died and thats why hes trying to fix aging with the shimmer serum
This line broke me because it showed how time changes people but it doesn't mean what is bad doesn't have to be beautiful. Like the fact that Silco did truly care was so beautiful because she actually had someone who never gave up on her even in death.
@@norahhitt104 that’s what we all want to think but in reality I could be that he is just feeding Jinx the thought of everything he believes in. Even tho he is dying he is happy cause he know someone if gonna keep doing the stuff he did. In other words manipulation… soooo did he really care?
@@troyo3172 yes he did care, as clarified in his conversation with Vander's statue. Silco's understanding was that he finally found what he couldn't lose, same as Vander. "Oh it all makes sense now brother." Followed by all the reasons he should, but he can't.
The story of Season One wasn't the conflict between Jynx and Vi. It was the Journey of Powder into Jynx. That story had a biginning, middle and complete resolution.
I love Sivika’s implied threat to Silko: _”Not for a worm like him. But he won’t be the last.”_ Like: “I’m loyal to the cause, not you; remember that.”
Caleb hit the nail on the head about “The monster you created”. The truth is it wasn’t Silco or Vi who made Jinx. The truth is Jinx was born in the very first scene of the show when she walked with Vi among the carnage on the bridge.
yes, many people forget that there already were her trauma scribbles on the faces of the enforcers in the first scenes - that's the reason she couldn't be alone in ep3 and stay back as she was already (and not only her but also Vi traumatized)- for Vi as a child herself she couldn't manage this and it led to the more traumatic finale of ep3 - lastly, the shimmer injections are a nail in the coffin for Jinx as well as the last step of killing Silco. I am very curious how the story of Jinx proceeds in S2 - we are still not at the end - she is missing some tattoos and her finger nails should be painted in black.
@@PickledShark I totally agree, Powder has been unstable from the very beginning and then, at every single turn of events when there's a chance for her to become more stable, there's another push in the wrong direction, putting her further off balance. In my opinion, the most indicative event for this is Powder's/Jinx's question to Vi when they reunite for the first time, "Are you real?" She herself knows that she's having hallucinations and doesn't trust the things she sees and hears. That scene hurts every single time, as do many others.
@@redroseibarahime8755 Trauma hardened Vi. Her trauma in losing her loving space of her parents drove her to protect Powder. It also drove her to the protective arms of both Vander and Caitlyn, who both displayed immutability in the face of overwhelming danger/power. Unfortunately her hardness in her efforts to protect Powder also simultaneously made Powder feel helpless and alone, two feelings that defined her experiences with trauma. Powder sought to follow her sister in reacting to trauma with hardness, but Powder was not as hardened by trauma, and did not have the same "strength in exchange for solitude" nature as Vi. Instead, Powder was broken by her solitude. Whereas Vi, (unfortunately for Powder), found herself working even harder to protect those she could after losing Vander, Powder took it as a severance from where she had found solace before. Thus we find Powder not just left alone, but actively removed from the only place she had found comfort since the bridge. This is how Powder dies, and where Jinx is born. Powder's family is killed because of her. Vi's family is stolen from her. Only one of them is able to engage with the world in a proactive way, the other only lashes out when they feel aggrieved.
@@PickledSharkjinx is the monster piltover and zaun both created together. The old guard forged her with their own failings and now she’s the consequences of the leaders on both sides actions.
"Were you tempted?" "Not for a worm like him." That wasn't a no from Sevika. She was thinking of betraying Silco, but Finn just wasn't worthy enough to take Silco's place. Silco never once betrayed anyone and believed in loyalty and had the goal of obtaining independence for the undercity. With Finn's position, he would have most likely focused on money and business. Between the two, Sevika had higher respect for Silco. "I think Silco is going to turn himself in Jinx's place." Unfortunately that wouldn't have worked out since Silco did try to shift the blame from Jinx to himself by lying that her crimes were under his orders (they weren't, Silco even got mad when Jinx caused an explosion). But as Jayce said, "you can't make a deal with a snake and then cut off its head" especially since it's a direct deal between Jayce and Silco. That scene with Silco and Vander's statue is by far one of my favorite Silco scenes. Simply put, Silco initially didn't understand why Vander was willing to not fight for the sake of protecting the kids. But now that he had raised Jinx for the past 7-8 years and was given a choice of the undercity's independence at the cost of turning in Jinx, he now understood what it felt to be in Vander's shoes. Congrats on finishing your reaction on season 1 of Arcane! Looking forward to when you guys react to season 2!
Something a lot of people misunderstand about Sevika is that she's loyal to one thing only: the dream of a free and independent Zaun. People get mad at her for "betraying" Vander, but in reality she would have betrayed her ideals if she *hadn't* turned her back on Vander. She knew then and there that Vander's path didn't lead anywhere but maintaining the status quo. It's why she was willing to sacrifice her life to save Silco from the bomb in spite of having only just started working for him. She wasn't protecting Silco, she was protecting Zaun's future. So as you said, with Finn she was making it clear that she will serve whoever will lead Zaun to independence. I actually grew to like her as a character, there's way more to her than just "muscle for the badguy". It's a shame most people who watch the show seem to hate her, though. I'm hoping she gets the chance to shine in season 2. Maybe she'll be the leader of the Zaunite resistance?
@@kenjutsukata1o1 That's right. Even in the scene when she is strapped to the chair, she says Jinx is bad for 'the cause' not for 'our business' or anything. I really like Sevika because she fights for what she thinks is right.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 I get that Sevika is a freedom fighter at her core but I think she just wants a boss who's got integrity and who has her back. She walked out on Vander and she understands it's a mistake, it cost her an arm, and it's that sunk cost that keeps her with Silco. The scene where she tells Silco that Jynx will come to him when she's ready is the clue that she's more invested in Silco than just as the leader of her revolution. Also that scene with Silco at Vander's Statue defined their relationship so much better than any of the dialog they had in the first act. It was a powerful moment in a very quiet speech. Like so many things Silco's character does his lashing out angrily is never as impactful as his softly spoken words.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 In my opinion, the problem with saying Sevika betrayed Vander is the assumption she ever approved of his leadership after the revolution.
I thought so too, but you can see a painting Powder made in one of the first episodes, where she already had basically designed it. So Fishbones seems to be something she had in mind before, designwise. But the eye is definitely a nod to Silco
Also they said jinx destroyed or lost the hex tech . She didn't it's a side department by itself similar how the gauntlets have it as only a power source
That's a cool idea but Jinx had that weapon in League since her release, which was like, before Arcane was even thought of, let alone before Silco was conceived.
One line, outside of all the other amazing ones in the episode and series that breaks my heart, is Victor saying "I'm sorry, I don't know where you'd have preferred..." The pain that he didn't get the chance to even know her that well, and giving her that much attention and care only AFTER she died is so, so brutal...
Arcane really came and blew everything out of the water. It gave me everything i didn't know i wanted, and after seeing how many characters League of Legends has, my hope for this "Arcane franchise" grew even higher.
It literally made me burned out on other shows because they don't give me the same feeling, tbh, they can take even 5 years to make season 2 - I wouldn't mind waiting as long as they do it justice.
I'm totally behind them doing some stories from other champions, but Runeterra is an insane world. Vi, Jinx, Caitlyn, Warwick; all of these characters are at the lowest level of how powerful most of the champions in the game are, lore-wise. I have no doubt that they're going to extend the scope of the story into Noxus, and possibly Demacia, but I don't think they can go much beyond that. The story telling would get a little difficult. Arcane is, so far, set in a grounded world. Yeah, there's magic, but nothing like the high-fantasy stuff we would see if they started exploring the vast majority of the champion roster. Even a normal human of the freljord would basically be superman when compared to the people of Piltover/Zaun. If they portrayed them accurately, it would feel like an entirely different universe than the one they've presented so far.
@@Goomsies Frostborn humans don’t feel cold. Yet they wear furs! Although I agree on how grounded the show is, I can easily see them slowly getting into “the arcane”. We’ve already seen a real mage do magic, and heimerdinger talked about how magic destroys civilisations. We are already introduced to magic, it’s only a matter of broadening the scope.
@@GeneralPet Yeah, true. I just mean to say that the struggles of characters like Vi and Jinx would be inconsequential in the face of anything to do with, for example, the stories of some of the characters from the most recent cinematic. Champions like Pantheon, Leona, the Volibear, Aurelion Sol; the existence of characters like them in the story of Arcane would make the story presented so far pretty much inconsequential. I guess they could get around that by only mentioning their existences through myths or stories, but I'm just using them to make my point. There are characters so powerful in runeterra that they wouldn't exactly fit in the "grounded" world that they've shown us so far.
An incredible fun detail I noticed that just dawned on me, in the beginning of the series silco mentions how he's fond of sea monsters finding them strangely beautiful. Jinx is ultimate weapon is a shark with an x over one of its eyes, she made it for him.
:D yeah it was a nice double by her. Followed by the "Sheesh even I'm not that crazy" showing full well that she knows and intended to cause fear/a big reaction within Vi.
@@6666Imperator And she did, she could also see that Vi doesnt think the same about her because she thought it was actually Caitlyn's head on that plate.
Even people who know LoL and were sure Caitlyn would be fine...still experience that split second of horrifying doubt where they WEREN'T actually sure. That one brief moment where the writers and animators had managed to convince absolutely everyone that they really did it...that they killed a Champion, for the sake of the story. . And nobody's even mad that they didn't "have the balls" to do it, because they faked us out so expertly, and played the rest of the story so well, that all we do is accept it gratefully that Cait survived.
@@6666Imperator I think it was more of a test. Vi thinking it was actually her head on the plate meant that Vi was not only horrified of Jinx, but also thought she was that far gone.
@@TheLangenator The thing is he made the hammer after coming to the conclusion that he needs to be combat ready, so it's most likely not standard-issue.
@@TheLangenator the gauntlet was made with Viktor and lore wise makes all sense that he wanted safety measures on anything civilians would use and Jace adopted the mentality.
I honestly love where they decided to end this episode. This entire season was about Powder. She’s the first character we see, she’s the one at the center of most of the promotions for this show, she’s the one who causes basically every conflict in this season. So I think it fits perfectly that we end on the metaphorical “death” of Powder rather than having the episode go on for another 5 or so minutes and focus on the fallout from that.
His nickname was "The Hound of the Undercity" (or something like that), that's basically them being pretty on the nose for those who play league, after that last frame with singed at least
@@honscha "who taught you how to punch?" To Vi "You were there... let me forget" to Jinx (could refer to both episode 3 OR the lab he was made in.) "I used to run these streets... now it's you who has to run" (he used to be some kind of leader in Zaun) "Until you played lapDOG, after everything we suffered" "I'll show you what you really are" *faint WW theme plays as shimmered up Vander walks on the bridge*
I'm curious how he turns into a dog though. And if in season 2 maybe also Mundo appears as Shimmer had effects that made the first guy look like an alpha version of Mundo already.
I'm convinced Silco is one of the best characters ever created. He made me hate him with a burning passion. And 6 episodes later I am in tears as he solidifies the spot as my favorite character
The fact that you want to cry for Silco says so much about the quality of the writing in this show. I honestly haven’t seen better characterization in anything ever
'Is there anything so undoing as a daughter' may just be my favourite line of the show. Also, non-league players noticing Warwick is extremely impressive. I only made the connection as I knew Singed
I've never been so not-mad at a cliffhanger ending because despite being a cliffhanger it's still narratively fulfilling. You don't *need* to know precisely how bad the damage from the rocket is. You already know the most important thing it destroyed - the chance of peace.
The prevailing fan theory is that yes, that is Vander in the scene in Singed’s lab. The theory revolves around the lore of the champion, Warwick, a werewolf like character created by Singed. There’s evidence of this theory in game through the use of voice lines (specifically to Jinx and Vi) and in his character bio (I highly recommend checking out both) but the most damning evidence, they’re both referred to as “The Hound of the Lanes” Also, unrelated side note (and I’ll edit this part out if you talk about it, I commented before finishing the video) that ending song is an original piece performed by Sting and a violinist named Ray Chen, they did a live performance of it for the game awards that was just incredible.
The sounds during Vanders last fight in episode 3 also push towards that theory. The music when he gets 'shimmered up' matches with Warwicks hunting theme and the growls Vander makes while on shimmer are almost identical to Warwicks voice.
Silco in my mind is actually almost as tragic a character as Jinx. A lot of people i see just think Silco manipulates Jinx all the time, but in reality I think he has a twisted perspective because of his experiences, but he doesn't lie much, at least to her.
I'm pretty sure the Gemstone was the propellant, not the explosive, since we see the rocket opening up to show the chemtech explosives Jinx normally uses, I'd like to think the Gemstone was only used to deliver the missile, not explode it, so it might still be in her launcher.
I agree it's the propellant (the only way to give her weapon the reach needed) but if it's a missile the gem would be in it, even if the explosives are separate, pure chemtech. If the gem is in the launcher, it's some kind of ballistic device, or something pretty exotic (gem makes a small hex gate to just before the target? But it'd travel much faster). Didn't look ballistic to me, straight line to the council window.
I just realized two cool things in the bar fight scene that in many many reactions and comment sections, I didn't hear anybody talk about. 1) when Sevika says "everyone out", you can see Thieram, the bartender, sliding under the bar in a really funny way. 2) every episode started with the jukebox putting on a record. The right end with Vi throwing Sevika into the jukebox, destroying it. There are no more episodes.
I want to comment on what Caleb was saying at the end about Riot expanding this into its own cinematic universe - They pretty much already have it built. Not just the worldbuilding, but a LOT of stories are already written. (If you're ever interested in it, go to the official "map of runeterra"). BUT, what I love is that Riot said Arcane ISN'T canon. That means that the creators of any potential future series/movies can do whatever they want, but they can still take all of the inspiration, characters and worldbuilding from the world that is already built. They're not adapting a video game, they're building a whole new world based on all of the already existing stories and cinematics. I think that's why Arcane's story was so good, and why I have high hopes for future series, including the ones that focus on other regions of the world. Riot really started something big with this show.
I didn’t know they said it wasn’t canon. That makes me excited to see what they’d do with other places like Ionia or Shurima. Imagine seeing Varus’ backstory and the story of Zed, Shen & Jhin. the Ascension process of Shurima & Nasus. I can’t wait holy hells imagine the Shadow Isles
@@forsenfan69 You're right, League also isn't canon. They rebooted the whole universe in 2014 where they completely got rid of the idea of summoners and summoner's rift. But they also said Arcane isn't canon. I think the only canon things right now are: - Cinematics after "a twist of fate" in 2013 - All stories after the reboot - Cards in Legends of Runeterra (except poros and kda cards) - Everything in Ruined King
@@georgeytg That seems strange on Riot's side. I have to imagine that the most beloved multimedia narrative property set in the universe is Arcane. Wouldn't it make sense for them to canonize that instead?
@@forsenfan69 Arcane has many conflicts with the current lore right now. If they made it canon, they would either have to: 1. Change the Arcane lore to fit with the current lore, or 2. Retcon the current lore. For example, hextech in current lore was supposed to be something ancient (found in Brackern species in Shurima), but here it was created recently. There's a TON of implications if hextech didn't exist before Arcane events. If that was canon, then they would have to change Camille's lore entirely, since she's currently 80 years old and has had a hextech heart for 54 years. And that's just one character. Maybe Riot will at some point say that Arcane is indeed canon, and will rewrite a lot of the old lore, but in my opinion, I think it's better if they have their own cinematic universe.
The best detail after silco died is that you can hear the voices jinx has been hearing blowing away with the wind. Suggesting that her personallity is no longer torn/split and she now knows who she is and what she wants to do.
22:45 vander being a certain character from league (warwick) was foreshadowed SO HARD this season, its pretty much confirmed When vander fought on that bridge, you could even hear warwicks passive-sound in the back - also hes been called a "hound/dog" 4 times in this season - and warwick is an ex-human whos been turned into a "werewolf-like-thing" by singed (the professor who helped jinx, viktor, and whos sitting next to.. well, vander hanging there. Basically everyone in the league community agrees with this, and everyone who doesnt just says "well its not confirmed yet"
Silco was a monster who turned into a human to save his daughter. Vander was a human who turned into a monster to save his daughter. It’s only fitting that Silco would die as a human whereas Vander continues to live as a monster. Another tragic circumstance where both brothers end up turning into something they hate to save the ones they love.
After finishing this show, there was a profound emptiness because I’d never watched something so brilliantly executed. It’s a masterpiece and the fact that it’s based on the lore of top-down MOBA video game is incredible. This is unprecedented. Raised the bar to an unreachable height. I’m hoping you guys have a similar reaction to me and decide to explore more Runeterra/LoL content and give us reactions, too. All of Riot’s cinematics are mind-blowing. Even without knowing anything about LoL. Riot has also put out a lot of music. They’ve created virtual bands. They have a spin-off card game based on the lore of Runeterra. There’s so much for you guys to see and believe me when I say Riot has consumed 90% of my time on RUclips the last few weeks since finishing the show, from exploring the cinematics, to watching reactions to those same cinematics, to the music, etc.
so true - I have still a void I can't fill in because no show hits me at the moment as Arcane did. And to be honest -a show never hit me this hard before.
This is something I just thought of (maybe someone else thought the same. The whole title of “The Monster You Created” can be brought back to episode 8 when Vi and Caitlyn are talking about how Vi and Powder used to play as kids. Vi says that she used to create monsters to fight them and sometimes she would scare Powder with her creations then say that “no monster’s ever gonna get you when I’m here.”
Exactly, and in episode 6 we see the very same monsters drawn on the wall by Powder in their old dwelling where Vi and Caitlyn have sought refuge. I love how this show is filled with clues/forshadowing for practically everything!
Interesting parallel is how Powder botched her family and friends’ escape thinking she was doing what they’d want and then Jinx botched Silco’s dreams coming true thinking she was doing what he’d want.
(There is however a possibility that she actually did know about the deal, which means she knowingly wrecked his dreams coming true, but Silco did choose Jinx over his dreams in the end, so she’d actually just be following what he wanted for real…)
It even makes sense from what we learned in the show, too. Jayce said the gauntlets were for miners. Having a shield that can defend you from something above would save lives from things like a cave-in.
@@Kasia120612 It not make sense, they said it was for a faster and easy job (and for "easy" they mean no fatigue), they NEVER mention something about unsafe mines, like, the gauntlets are more unsafe than the mine itself, with what the show told us.
@@magoconcancer99 Yes, they never directly said it, but it makes sense. The gauntlets were designed for miners, and Jayce/Viktor were oblivious to how well they would work as weapons.
they don't have to mention it. it simply makes sense that if it's made for miners, for normal civilians, it should have an ability to save and protect the user. jayce and viktor didn't even think of its potential as a weapon at first...
The tea party was a test for Vi. It was laid out to test what Vi's reaction is to who Jinx is not who she was when she was Powder. Vi failed. She was obviously repelled by the scene, and the final nail was when she assumed the cupcake was Katelyn's head. Jinx realized Vi would never accept her.
Vi loves her sister obviously but she would never enable her like Silco did. That is the love Jinx thinks is unconditional and true, not letting her be accountable for her actions, (like killing the Enforcers, the bombings etc.) and based on Jinx's reaction to all of the things she's done and Silco's anger, she just laughs it off and that was it, she's forgiven because she got the hextech stone. Since Jinx was a kid Silco let her do whatever she wanted and became a loose canon. Now look where that got him, it all blew up in his face. We all know Silco loves Jinx but he also projected his abandonment issues and trauma onto her and let's be honest, he kinda spoiled her by not correcting her bad behavior. Parenting is all about balance. Also remember the fact that Vi has been in prison for 5-6 years, that's why she still thinks Powder is still in there. Vi understands that Jinx did what she had to do to survive, she said so herself but they both changed and they realize this by the end. I noticed that a lot of people are really ignoring Vi's perspective on all of this and that she's the only one at fault, but every single one of these characters have done something wrong and that is a very human thing to do, they're complex and gray! This is an amazingly written tragedy after all. And as much as yall are convinced that Powder is gone, she will always be a part of Jinx, separated? Maybe but she will always be there, at the bottom of a well but that's just my couple of cents.
The scene when Jinx is about to fire the rocket, the music in the background and as soon as i heard Silco in her head saying "We`ll show them all" ...... I got shivers
That scene with Silco at Vander's statue man...I did not think I would actually like Silco when I watched the first episode, but he was just an amazing villain.
Season 2 can't come fast enough. What's even worse though is knowing how long it will realistically take for a season 2 to be produced. Dammit this show is high art.
There is a little hope, because despite them saying it took 6 years, that includes stuff like getting the project kicked off from the ground, so they don't need to do any handshaking and convincing to get season 2 to get produced. I'd say maybe 2-4 years, which is kind of sad that it'll be that long, but honestly this was the best show I have seen in years and would absolutely wait 4 years for it.
Neet little detail someone pointed out. The robo arm with the shimmer. She changed it from auto cartridge to a manual one cause it was a weakpoint of the design.
she was also seen in episode 8 tinkering with it and fine tuning it while finn talks to her. This being right after her previous fight with Vi. So she realizes the weaknesses right away and is willing to adapt. She'll make a great leader in Zaun in silco's wake. edit- the second one is on the catwalk just behind the two of them, and vi is wearing the undamaged one. So she takes them back.
It's unbelievable how Silco's death reveals how much loving Jinx has altered the fundamentals of his being. Zaun: no explanation needed. Betrayal: He who values loyalty and loathes treachery above all, forgives and comforts his killer, even though he is betrayed, again, by the person he loves most, in a previous event that defined him. Jinx: therefore, he might believe that Powder won out, since she chooses to save Vi. So he doesn't repeat "Jinx is perfect." But "You're perfect." Whoever his daughter decides to be. Rage: As you say, in his final moments, he stops fighting, lets the waters take him, the monster rest. "Have you had enough?" He finally has, and goes gentle into that long night.
I'm surprised you noticed the hanging body in the room with Singed at the end. Spoilers so I'll put this below in case anyone doesn't want to know what might happen: The fan theory is that is indeed Vander, and he's going to become Warwick. The lore adds up, there's many videos that show it. Warwick's music played in the back of Episode 3 when he had the shimmer affect him and he was growling, and Warwick has a metal hand that replaced the same hand Vander injured when he tried to kill Silco in his past
Caleb using his super deduction skills on the possible theory that's going around the community haha! A lot of the community is speculating that Vander indeed is the guy at the very end, but there's no definitive confirmation of it. Very excited to see if it plays out once season 2 happens haha!
@@jinxedmeta1963 there's many hints yes, but it's never confirmed. Also arcane is not canon. So it's not 100% confirmed but it is the most likely option.
I know it's not canon, like Vi and Jinx being sisters. But they put it here on purpose because they knew league players would go read WW's lore. And it fits Vander pretty well. They also teased Blitzcrank with Jayce and Viktor. I'm hyped.
I mean they've given us too many reasons to think it's him, that if they backed out it would just be awkward. His ingame interactions, the end scene, "Hound of the Underground", his "death" being very similar to Warwick's lore. It all matches up.
I will never get over how many subtle touches there are to the animation in this show - I didn't even notice Silco's eyes darting toward Vi when saying "her" during his speech to Jinx until this particular watch.
0:59 *They weren't fighting children. He just accidentally shot that kid who happened to be caught in the crossfire. All those juiced up shimmer guys they were fighting were grown men. You can catch a glimpse of how one of them looks like behind their bubble glass helmet when they are emerging out after the red button was pushed.*
0:53 They weren't fighting children. Those guys in chemtank suits are adults or teens like the one who drank shimmer in Ep3. The children just work there, they are not combatants.
This show may be my favorite show of all time? Im 31 and have seen A LOT of stuff but the pacing, tone, music, sound, voices, animation, world, characters, development, etc etc are all at an incredible level AND mix so well constantly. Such a great experience.
In Episode 2, Vi would have started a war with Piltover just like Silco would have done for her in Episode 9, but now Vi wouldn't have done that anymore. Also, when Jinx asked Vi to kill Caitlyn (make her to away) she was referring to how when they were children, Vi used to chase their imaginary monsters away. Caitlyn was one of those monsters in her eyes.
26:30 Thats essentially the theme of the entire show. No one is completely right or wrong. No one is completely good or evil. No one is completely black or white. Everyone is a little bit of both. Vander is the "Paragon of Virtue" character (Like Obi-wan) BUT he's a criminal and a murderer, even if he did it for the right cause. Silco is the "Archetypal Villain" character (Like Vader) BUT even tho his methods are ruthless and cruel, his cause is actually just. Vi is a "Robin Hood" type of character, Caitlyn is a "Letter of the Law" type of character. Viktor/Jayce Grayson/Marcus Echo/Heimerdinger All are two sides of one coin and all of them embodies both sides even in themselves. Its all about duality.. No one is actually *truly* evil, not even Silco. He's not hurting people for no reason, he's not a blood thirsty sadist hurting people for his own amusement. He only ever does it to further his cause which is to rid the undercity of the oppression of Piltover. In his eyes no individual is worth more than the freedom of his people. Until Jayce demands Jinx ofc. Silcos monologue to Vanders statue is by far the best scene in the show btw. Jinx being both the exception AND the poetically beautiful pinnacle of this by being none of it and both of them at the same time due to her Split personality. Jinx/Powder, more than any other, highlights this by both being the same person. Jinx being the ultimate chaos and Powder being the ultimate innocence. Its such a basic, common sense concept unfortunately lacking in todays entertainment industry. And with so phenomenal writing, This is what makes the show so god damn authentic and human. Its the best animated show of all time, it might be the best show of all time period. Absolute master class.
I love the fact that Jinx essentially cuts the head of both Piltover and Zaun Also, I would love Vander returning as Warwick but for the sisters to never learn he is back, just keep his past secret from everyone except the audience and have it be sad by itself Also also, there might have been a possibility that Slico was that desperate to escape his constraints because Vi mentioning their family was hurting Jinx, since he was never that desperate at any point before that
The way I interpreted Silco trying to shoot Vi is that he was trying to protect Jinx. What Vi doesn't get is that Claggor and Milo aren't pleasant memories for Jinx. They are the shadow monsters that whisper and torment her. Silco, having been with Jinx in the aftermath, sees that and tries to help Jinx but stopping Vi. Vi, while trying to help, making Jinx confront her trauma but not in the best way. Its very confrontational so Silco panicked and attacked Vi.
I love how the series’s other (third) father-daughter pair is also central to a variety of conflicts, but not directly stated. It’s cool how so many parent-child relationships (or even metaphorical ones) serve as the foundation for the story.
Silcos dying words proved he really did love Jynx. Manipulative that he was, he really wanted the best for her. One of the best written villains of the decade
I didn't realize when I first watched it the depth of what's going on when Silco and Vi are yelling over each other and Silco tries to shoot her. Vi doesn't understand that those memories are painful for Jinx, even if Powder is still in there, bringing up the people she killed is NOT how you will get through to her because remembering them is deeply traumatic for her and Vi seems to completely disregard Jinx's suffering because all she wants is Powder back. Silco shoots Vi not necessarily because he's worried Vi will get through to her or something, but because Vi is hurting his daughter and he wants to stop it. Another thing that I don't think is mentioned much is how complex the consequences Silco's final words actually are. Despite the undeniable love between Silco and Jinx and how beautiful his words are in the moment, those words very likely lock Jinx into her current mentality permanently. She was concerned about whether Vi could accept her, and Silco accepts her unconditionally even after she shoots him, and what does he say? that she's perfect. If you're mentally unstable and the person that loves you unconditionally tells you you're perfect as they die, well are you going to be very inclined to change in the future? It's a beautiful moment but not the most healthy, sometimes it's important for loved ones to be constructively critical of your choices and actions if they are destructive or unhealthy. I think Vander is a perfect example of a stern parental figure who doesn't endorse or let everything slide, but even when he's firm he's not mean or abusive. Silco if anything, even before his death, was a little too lenient with Jinx. I also saw an interesting theory that Jinx's "I made her a snack" moment was actually a test for Vi, would Vi actually believe Jinx would do something so terrible? and Vi failed. On a less interpersonal level also I remember seeing someone point out how Jinx kind of represents the Undercity in general. All the ingenuity and creativity and individuality, but also all the pain and anguish and chaos and volatility of the undercity is all represented in Jinx. Silco's soft spot for her and his response to the deal suddenly becomes pretty interesting when thinking of Jinx this way. Obviously as a person Silco loves Jinx and doesn't want to give her up, but as a metaphor for Zaun giving Jinx up could be seen as Zaun also losing what makes it special, and also that Silco is hesitant to give that up. He even alludes a little bit to it a few times how he doesn't want Zaun to necessarily be sanitized into some sort of Pilltover 2.0, he's directly critical of other people who have "spent too much time in the sun".
Silko attempted to kill vi, because he saw what memories of vander and others does to jinx. Then last of powder kill Silko to protect vi. Then jinx laid powder to rest forever. 'Here' s to the new us. '
What I like about the fact that Silco couldn't talk at the table is that in the beginning he dindn't even try to talk, he was calm, he only tried talking when Vi told Jinx the idea of getting away and never coming back, he heard that and started to talk because of the fear of losing Jinx for ever. Thats one of the things that I love about how the made Silco and Jinx father/daughter relationship, you can't deny the love and care they have for each other but at the same time is so messed up, it isn't healthy because both have so many abandonment issues, he isn't capable of letting his daughter go, but every father or parent should be prepared for their sons/ Daughters to grow up and live their life, that was imposible for him and for Jinx who is stuck in a childish mindset , Silco was so calm while he was dying, he didn't care, he only wanted Jinx to know that he loved her more than anything and its obvious he would choose death before losing her or seeing her sad. I also like the choice of words, when he baptized her he said "Jinx is perfect" but in here he said "You are perfect" its all of her, no matter what she decides or not decides for him she always be perfect, and that makes Jinx's decicion more powerful because it was her choice, she decided for better or worse, aaaaaa such a great show, what a master piece ❤❤❤❤
yes but there was way more direct love and affection. I also think Silco has fear of being abandoned by Jinx like how vander left him which I don't think Askellad ever felt towards Thorfin
Quite the opposite actually - Jinx attached herself to Silco to sate her need for familial love, Thorfinn stuck with Askeladd out of his desire for revenge. There was no love lost between the latter, with Thorfinn only finding forgiveness for Askeladd years after his death. Askeladd in turn would have taken Jayce’s deal in a heartbeat in Silco’s place.
I think what makes this hurt so much is because it is architypal, it is the most extreme. Litterally in every single sense, everything would be better for everyone else had she not existed. It hurts to even think that of someone whom we've seen suffer so much.
You should check out wearemako’s video on the making of “What Could Have Been”. Like everything else Arcane, you get to see the incredible attention to detail by the creators. Really cool look inside the art and the process.
Silco is the closest to a perfect villain I've ever seen. 11/10. The fact that he only wants to kill Vi when he sees the amount of damage Vi was doing to Jinx when calling her old family, was only to protect Jinx. And in the end his death with the validation of a great father, saying to his daughter she's perfect, he wouldn't change her in any way, may help Jinx solidify her personality. It's beautiful.
I agree with everything except calling him a great father. He's far from it. He loves her, but that's not enough. A great father would see that she's not perfect, she has flaws, major ones at that, but love her anyway. Family is supposed to be there for you not only to validate you but also to help you become a better person. Then there's the whole thing of "well he's a villain himself, ofcourse this is what he views as the perfect daughter." Now here's the thing: maybe bad people shouldn't be in a position qualified for parenting. Crazy, I know. But if they lived in Piltover, Powder would've been taken away from Silco and raised in a better environment.
I think him saying she's perfect as she is also doomed her, since with the belief instilled in her that she was perfect as she is right now would probably not let her grow in a healthy way. Silco and Vi cared for her and even if Silco is the one who really understands her right now since V i is stuck on past, he still let the negative parts of Jinx to fester instead of helping her through it. If you really care about someone, you'll help them get over either physical,emotional, or psychological problems, not leave it as that or worsen it (Vi also worsened it also, unknowingly). That's like seeing a child do bad things and not doing anything about it, therefore unkowingly encouraging that kind of behaviour no matter how destructive it is. It irks me how many people didn't see the negative effect of that validation. A great parent will love you unconditionally with all the flaws we have and help us to be a better person than we are right now, or else we would be stuck with our bad habits. It really irks me how a lot see him as a great parent because of personal reasons, when I was younger I was a bit of a kleptomaniac and my parent love me, but they also understand that me getting things from others without permission is not right, so they helped understand and work through it, not ignore it. If they told me I was perfect no matter how many things I steal from others, I would probably a thief right now. They saw my flaws, but they helped me get over it, and that's real parenting and true love from a parent. They care about you and want you to be a better person, not let you get stuck in the idea that of "Oh, my parent told me I'm perfect, and if so why should I change", when we clearly have flaws that are destructive, not only to others, but for ourselves. I don't know if I was able to get my thoughts clearly since English is not first language, but here it is. Also, this show is amazing (which I didn't ecpect honstly), and nothing makes me like a story more, than a story that let's us see, interpret, and analyze things from different perspectives. Long discussions are great, which is also why I like this channel for they have long discussions abour every episode.
My big takeaway from that Singed moment; Singed knocked out Silco to save the trauma of watching the healing, while Vander (Warwick) was chained to the ceiling, forced to watch Singed work on her.
You know how they said the character of the Joker is a mirror of society's failings and sins? I think Jinx is likewise a reflection of the violence she endured and witnessed, the oppression of Zaun and her stifling, brutal growing environment. But in a way, her madness, the bad luck she trails after her, make her almost an instruments in the hands of some retributive divinity, dishing out vengeance and punishment in some blind version of justice. She's the Lady of Misrule, and she redirects back, topsy-turvy, the sins and violence at the sinners. Therefore she is Silco's undoing (while being his greatest gift. god, I love his character, but what a poetic death), and also Piltover's new nightmare. I predict therefore that the only hope for Jinx's peace, or let's say appeasement, can only happen once Piltover's addressed its original sin, the oppression of Zaun, and a measure of peace is brought to the Undercity.
Thank you for your reactions, one of the best!!! There is the scene in last 9th episode which I find very important for season 2, but a lot people overlooked it. When Silco and Jayce was meeting on city walls, Jayce said: "I was reminded recently of what brought us together in the first place The threats beyond our walls". And Silco had answered: "The city has a short memory". Threats beyond OUR walls! Like Noxus Empire, the mommy general Medarda is part of! So I hope, that in Season 2, the both parts of the City, after some struggle, will be forced to cooperate for survival and fight the outsiders to remain independent! P.S. Family dinner is the great dramatic ending! It make me too look forward to 2. season even more, and for me cliffhanger do not matter. The satisfying end of the season one is the Jinx deciding who she is. When she sat on that chair with Jinx name like a boss, this is it! She finally accepted who she is and her past is not tearing her personality apart, no more, scars remain, but she let go her past, like Silco try to told her earlier!
remember the raven Jinx shot down in the arcade ? the raven was standing on the shooting game, but it's a real target and Jinx got a real gun now, the raven was then made into Jinx's pen for her Hextech research and yes, the "Jinx's chair" .Ravens also symbolism for "change", 3rd eye, witch craft,.... which all the traits can be found in Jinx, black birds can also be consider bad luck, of course.
A thing I noticed about the wonderful scene between Jayce and Victor, at the ledge where Victor threw Sky's ashes and delivered that amazing quote, the shape of the "hole" where they stand and their position in said place, it very much looks like a skull. Idk if it has any specific indication but Victor wishing for the Hexcore to be destroyed despite its potential to save his life, is kinda him signing his death sentence.
I love that on one hand, the end of the season does feel like a cliff hanger, cutting off before the literal big bag, but, on the other, when you think about it there's nothing more to the basic story that the viewer can't conclude for themselves. Jinx and Vi will never be sisters as they used to again, Pilltover and the undercity wage war and the undercity will probably lose in a bloody battle and history will repeat itself. Any chance at peace between the two sides have been shattered.
The Arcane S2 trailer was very brief, but Warwick’s theme song is apparently in there somewhere. If the tease wasn’t enough, Warwick will definitely be in S2 - and I’m also betting it’s Vander. I’m not well-versed in League lore but when Arcane came out I did look up if Warwick had a name (and he doesn’t). Something about Vander’s design makes him look werewolf-y, and the subtle hints at calling him a dog and such.
I recommend The Canipa Effect's video on just how why and how Arcane got developed and rare THIS type of udnertaking this type animation is and why it's so good/unique in the first place.
If I had to describe the entire plot of Arcane perfectly and vaguely with one line: is there anything so undoing as a daughter? SO many characters have daughters and they’re always a plot point.
great discussion as always. hoping for some league related stuff on stream boys ! even us league fans hate the game most of the time, but we all agree; cinematics, music videos, lore stuff, it's all done really well. it's really worth checking out, even stuff that is completely unrelated to arcane. of course this is up to you, if u want to just stick with the show and wait for season 2 that is completely fine. the 3rd act really was phenomenal, episodes 7,8,9 were pretty much perfect. hope riot keeps up with the good work, cheers
One thing to note -- Mel turns around long before anyone else even started to notice the missile. And, on top of that, the light that appears to be reflecting off the gold she's wearing doesn't really have a source -- there's nothing from that direction that could have been casting that light. And, the sound design shifts dramatically in that moment, in a similar manner to the more subtle effects of hextech. AND Mel is portrayed visually as a source of light at many, many points in the show (e.g. the very bright flashlight in episode 3; her introduction scene when the sun is a harsh illuminating backlight). AND her clothes as a child have a design remiscent of sun/light imagery. I'm pretty convinced that Mel weilds some kind of magic related to light. After all, she was the only council member to be gung-ho about hextech from the start -- if she's a magic wielder already, she knows the potential it could have for Piltover. I don't know if this is a Noxus thing, or unique to Mel (and could be part of what shaped her to be different from Mamadarda), but I think that that magic is going to be what saves Victor and Jayce, but probably not any others on the council. Which, if this is the case, adds a whole new layer to the Piltover/Zaun and Piltover/Noxus and Noxus/[unnamed threat] dynamics -- if the leader of Piltover, the daughter of the ruler of Noxus, wields magic openly, it could very well open the floodgates for a lot more non-hextech magic to enter the fray. Magic seems to have been somewhat suppressed in Piltover, thanks to Heimerdingers founding principles, but he's gone, and she will quickly become the most powerful person in Piltover. There's no reason to believe that, if she weilds magic, that she's the only one. More and more will come out of the woodwork, fighting and peacekeeping on all sides, because the zeitgeist around magic has shifted.
So glad to hear your high praise for this show, this shows writing is something else, man everything just works out perfectly in the show in ways you don't often see, it's crazy
I loved rewatching this show with you guys! Thank you for the incredible reactions, they were definitely worth becoming a Patreon. Arcane has quickly risen in my top 3 favourite animated shows of all time. Truly fantastic I just love Silco's character so much...up until the end he loved Jinx, and when he was about to shoot Vi, was because by saying all the names of the past family (Vander, Mylo, etc) she was hurting Jinx instead of helping her, which drove him mad
Out of all the reactors post discussion, this one by far has the most depth to it. Most reactors simply discuss things that can be perceived on the surface.
I'm glad you guys mentioned Jinx being Jinx. For the first time in her life now JInx can be who she wants and while terrifying, will allow her to choose her own path. And maybe let her smile some.
i know theres not much point commenting because this is a year old, but you were right about the thing on the roof of singed's lab being vander. Vander gets experimented on and turned into warwick, he even uses the same growls as in the gamefiles of warwick in LoL, and it plays warwick's theme when vander is being dragged to the chair. and he even gets called "the hound of the underground" in episode 1! as well as there being lots of voicelines in game that relate to vi and jinx Just hoping you guys see this!
There's a small teaser for season 2!!! You should definetely see - react to that if you havent already! I have to say from all the reactors Ive watched (and there have been A LOT), Im so glad to see finally the first one to aknowledge that Jinx didnt "accidentally" kill Silco but it was an active choice to protect Vi. I also want to point out that your analysis on Silco while I dont want to put in a spectrum of right and wrong, as its entirely subjective I guess on how each individual interpretates his actions, is the closest to how I think of him... A very bad person, a bad father, but with uncoditional love for his daughter... Great reaction all around for the entire season you managed to become favorites without having even heard of you before, So ill be sure to check out more of you! Keep it up!
Arcane Season 1 has been finished and it was a MASTERPIECE! The next chapter in Vi and Jinx's story will continue, sometime, but until then let's just gush about this work of art!
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@@spaghetti5810 Probably meant "full length". Most of the stuff is copy paste so sometimes you encounter minor typos like these.
well this post doesn't make sense
They have a teaser trailer for season 2. Make sure to react to it.
Do a hidden detail reaction so you guys can see the thing you may have missed
The hallucination scenes showed the disconnect Vi and Jinx had in regards to their past. Vi fights for those that are gone and brought them up to remind “Powder”. But those same faces and voices are the ones that have been torturing Jinx for years. Vi wanted to return to the past. Jinx wanted to escape her’s.
And Silco was trying to stop Vi, not cause he was going to lose Jinx. But because she was hurting Jinx
@@pretentiousname01 Probably a little bit of both but definitely more the latter. He doesn't spaz-out nearly as much even when Vi was openly asking Jinx to leave with her.
It's just like when they're still little, the hallucinations jinx has can be seen as monsters Vi created
Yeah I love this about arcane- a lot of shows present a certain "right way" to get through to a oerson, when in reality what people need is different and Vi and Jinx's relationships to the past and the people they've lost is a perfect example. Vi is saying what SHE would need to hear, which is exactly what people tend to do, without realising how much it hurts jinx rather than helping. It just hoes to show how much thought went into every aspect of the characters
Also u can see like those monsters that are towering over her in that scene are the ones she remember because u see like their faces get scratched in a fast glimps of red blue monster and then u see those same monsters in full shape towering over her so that shows that her memory’s of them are just not the same as vi and sadly vi isn’t equipped to understand and see that vi in the end was hurting powder and I think silco in the end was the only one that understood to a limited extent of where jinx was at mentally that’s why I think when silco says “your perfect” not jinx is perfect made jinx feel what she wanted and also influenced her final choice because in the end vi haven’t accepted the jinx part of powder she haven’t even acknowledge jinx and jinx is a bigger part of powder than powder is apart of her the fact vi couldn’t accept her now is what made jinx feel like vi changed that vi doesn’t love her anymore that jinx actually disturbs vi and u can some what see it when silco accepts that and also some what accepts the powder in her as well it’s very well done I think silco was manipulative but I think a lot of it have to do with his own abandonment issues as u can see whenever jinx and his relationship is threatened he slips up his cool demeanor is gone he wasn’t worried about vi he was more worried with how vi would affect jinx it always circle round to him and jinx he needs her by his side and I think that stems from his own abandonment issues but jinx cost silco more than he gained from her realistically money shimmer all that he wanted her to make the weapon yes but she overall costed silco more and caused more problems for him than solutions so I think his manipulation comes more so from his need to keep his daughter more so than needing her to gain
"If I had a nickel for every time Jinx killed her adoptive father... I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice."
XD
I'm gonna give you a like because I read that in Dan Povenmire's voice, but I'm commenting because I also want you to understand I'm deeply upset with you.
Perry could have saved powder.
"If I had a nickel for every time Jinx killed her adoptive father... I'd have a dime."
No Silco killed Vander by stabbing him in the back then in the stomach.
Silco understands Jinx' insanity in a way Vi doesn't. Vi is accidentally torturing Jinx by forcing the past on her, and expecting her to want to go back to being Powder, who was helpless in the face of the reality that she killed her family.
Silco pulls the gun on Vi to protect Jinx from that onslaught, accidentally triggering Jinx' trigger-happy loss of control, which he brushed off in episode 4.
Silco, understanding how the guilt of killing her family brutalized Jinx last time, spends his last breathe showing Jinx that he not only accepts her for who she is, flaws and all, but does not blame her for killing him. He makes sure that 'he' won't be haunting her as a voice in her head.
Jinx, realizing how unconditional Silco's love for her really was, both accepts his forgiveness, and realizes what she has just lost, in his death.
She can never be Powder again, because the pain and guilt would be unbearable, and, with Silco's blessing, chooses to be Jinx forevermore.
welp that just makes silco’s death even sadder
>He makes sure that 'he' won't be haunting her as a voice in her head.
Yeah, but... wouldn't it be AWESOME for him to be the sane voice in her head in season 2?
@@davididiart5934 on the merit of him getting more screentime alone, yess!!!
@@davididiart5934 Yes. I need more Silco. When I finished S1 I already missed him even though the season ends right after his death. So yes, give us flashback scenes, have him be the sane voice in her head.
@@davididiart5934 considering Silco's fondness for sea monsters in act 1, it's possible that the show's version of Fishbones (the rocket launcher, who Jinx thinks says things like "buy a home and save for retirement") will be his voice, so that could actually be the case
“Is there anything so undoing than a Daughter?”
Silco finally understands Vander.
I like to think, that Vander looked down on him at that moment and was smiling a bit. Like, now you know what it feels like to be in my shoes, brother.
Sons... Failed Sons that fall short of Fathers' expectations for the Daughter is a hope to a Father but a Son is a dream.
Singed too
@zzziie well now that we know arcane isnt canon it could happen, im not betting on it though i feel like his daughter died and thats why hes trying to fix aging with the shimmer serum
@@RenegadeSamurai Looking up**
Vander ain't in the good place lol.
"The boy didn't even haggle" is also what Ekko said ep 1 about Jayce which marked him to get looted lol
It’s an attribute of the idealist
Weird I've reached it and didn't even notice that but that's a fun detail lol
"Don't Cry. You're Perfect."
Your not the boss of me! I can cry if I want to!
This line broke me because it showed how time changes people but it doesn't mean what is bad doesn't have to be beautiful. Like the fact that Silco did truly care was so beautiful because she actually had someone who never gave up on her even in death.
I like how he said YOU instead of "Jinx is perfect" like he did all other times, as if it didn't matter if she's jinx or powder
@@norahhitt104 that’s what we all want to think but in reality I could be that he is just feeding Jinx the thought of everything he believes in. Even tho he is dying he is happy cause he know someone if gonna keep doing the stuff he did. In other words manipulation… soooo did he really care?
@@troyo3172 yes he did care, as clarified in his conversation with Vander's statue. Silco's understanding was that he finally found what he couldn't lose, same as Vander. "Oh it all makes sense now brother." Followed by all the reasons he should, but he can't.
Me to myself: "You're a grown ass man. You can do this!"
*watches Silco's death*
*sobs uncontrollably*
well, your guard needs working. i wish i could say it gets easier
*pats back*
I've watched at least 5 reactions and it's the same thing every time for me, same as it was the first time I saw it on my own...
@@yami2227 silco is goat
@Vi "Don't cry. You're perfect."
Mood.
People call it a cliffhanger, but the major conflict was resolved as soon as Jinx fired the rocket.
Agreed. This is a tragedy. And even if they never would release any new material. It would be complete.
Yeah, it felt like a very satisfying and complete story for me. Yes, its also the beginning of a new story but season 1 stands as its own story.
The story of Season One wasn't the conflict between Jynx and Vi. It was the Journey of Powder into Jynx. That story had a biginning, middle and complete resolution.
@dfsdfdsfdsfsdf No, it isn't. It's not a cliffhanger, lol. By this logic every single story is a cliffhanger.
exactly opening scene ep1 Vi Vows to make them pay as vander carries them of the bridge.. Last ep9 Vi created a monster and she does the deed.
5:39
"In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good."
*chills, every time*
One of the best lines of the show.
I love viktor
I love Sivika’s implied threat to Silko:
_”Not for a worm like him. But he won’t be the last.”_
Like: “I’m loyal to the cause, not you; remember that.”
That doctor guy does have a track record of keeping things alive WELL passed their expiration date. That axolotl thing is *still* alive in that tank.
Caleb hit the nail on the head about “The monster you created”.
The truth is it wasn’t Silco or Vi who made Jinx. The truth is Jinx was born in the very first scene of the show when she walked with Vi among the carnage on the bridge.
yes, many people forget that there already were her trauma scribbles on the faces of the enforcers in the first scenes - that's the reason she couldn't be alone in ep3 and stay back as she was already (and not only her but also Vi traumatized)- for Vi as a child herself she couldn't manage this and it led to the more traumatic finale of ep3 - lastly, the shimmer injections are a nail in the coffin for Jinx as well as the last step of killing Silco. I am very curious how the story of Jinx proceeds in S2 - we are still not at the end - she is missing some tattoos and her finger nails should be painted in black.
I don’t think there was just one thing that made Jinx, but rather a long sequence of events.
@@PickledShark I totally agree, Powder has been unstable from the very beginning and then, at every single turn of events when there's a chance for her to become more stable, there's another push in the wrong direction, putting her further off balance.
In my opinion, the most indicative event for this is Powder's/Jinx's question to Vi when they reunite for the first time, "Are you real?"
She herself knows that she's having hallucinations and doesn't trust the things she sees and hears. That scene hurts every single time, as do many others.
@@redroseibarahime8755 Trauma hardened Vi. Her trauma in losing her loving space of her parents drove her to protect Powder. It also drove her to the protective arms of both Vander and Caitlyn, who both displayed immutability in the face of overwhelming danger/power. Unfortunately her hardness in her efforts to protect Powder also simultaneously made Powder feel helpless and alone, two feelings that defined her experiences with trauma. Powder sought to follow her sister in reacting to trauma with hardness, but Powder was not as hardened by trauma, and did not have the same "strength in exchange for solitude" nature as Vi. Instead, Powder was broken by her solitude. Whereas Vi, (unfortunately for Powder), found herself working even harder to protect those she could after losing Vander, Powder took it as a severance from where she had found solace before. Thus we find Powder not just left alone, but actively removed from the only place she had found comfort since the bridge. This is how Powder dies, and where Jinx is born. Powder's family is killed because of her. Vi's family is stolen from her. Only one of them is able to engage with the world in a proactive way, the other only lashes out when they feel aggrieved.
@@PickledSharkjinx is the monster piltover and zaun both created together. The old guard forged her with their own failings and now she’s the consequences of the leaders on both sides actions.
"Were you tempted?" "Not for a worm like him."
That wasn't a no from Sevika. She was thinking of betraying Silco, but Finn just wasn't worthy enough to take Silco's place. Silco never once betrayed anyone and believed in loyalty and had the goal of obtaining independence for the undercity. With Finn's position, he would have most likely focused on money and business. Between the two, Sevika had higher respect for Silco.
"I think Silco is going to turn himself in Jinx's place."
Unfortunately that wouldn't have worked out since Silco did try to shift the blame from Jinx to himself by lying that her crimes were under his orders (they weren't, Silco even got mad when Jinx caused an explosion). But as Jayce said, "you can't make a deal with a snake and then cut off its head" especially since it's a direct deal between Jayce and Silco.
That scene with Silco and Vander's statue is by far one of my favorite Silco scenes. Simply put, Silco initially didn't understand why Vander was willing to not fight for the sake of protecting the kids. But now that he had raised Jinx for the past 7-8 years and was given a choice of the undercity's independence at the cost of turning in Jinx, he now understood what it felt to be in Vander's shoes.
Congrats on finishing your reaction on season 1 of Arcane! Looking forward to when you guys react to season 2!
Something a lot of people misunderstand about Sevika is that she's loyal to one thing only: the dream of a free and independent Zaun. People get mad at her for "betraying" Vander, but in reality she would have betrayed her ideals if she *hadn't* turned her back on Vander. She knew then and there that Vander's path didn't lead anywhere but maintaining the status quo. It's why she was willing to sacrifice her life to save Silco from the bomb in spite of having only just started working for him. She wasn't protecting Silco, she was protecting Zaun's future. So as you said, with Finn she was making it clear that she will serve whoever will lead Zaun to independence. I actually grew to like her as a character, there's way more to her than just "muscle for the badguy". It's a shame most people who watch the show seem to hate her, though. I'm hoping she gets the chance to shine in season 2. Maybe she'll be the leader of the Zaunite resistance?
@@kenjutsukata1o1 That's right. Even in the scene when she is strapped to the chair, she says Jinx is bad for 'the cause' not for 'our business' or anything. I really like Sevika because she fights for what she thinks is right.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 I get that Sevika is a freedom fighter at her core but I think she just wants a boss who's got integrity and who has her back. She walked out on Vander and she understands it's a mistake, it cost her an arm, and it's that sunk cost that keeps her with Silco. The scene where she tells Silco that Jynx will come to him when she's ready is the clue that she's more invested in Silco than just as the leader of her revolution.
Also that scene with Silco at Vander's Statue defined their relationship so much better than any of the dialog they had in the first act. It was a powerful moment in a very quiet speech. Like so many things Silco's character does his lashing out angrily is never as impactful as his softly spoken words.
@@kenjutsukata1o1 In my opinion, the problem with saying Sevika betrayed Vander is the assumption she ever approved of his leadership after the revolution.
The Rocket Launcher Jinx used was a shark with a weird eye.
Silco has a drowning motif with an affinity to sea monsters, he also has a weird eye.
I thought so too, but you can see a painting Powder made in one of the first episodes, where she already had basically designed it. So Fishbones seems to be something she had in mind before, designwise. But the eye is definitely a nod to Silco
Also they said jinx destroyed or lost the hex tech . She didn't it's a side department by itself similar how the gauntlets have it as only a power source
That's a cool idea but Jinx had that weapon in League since her release, which was like, before Arcane was even thought of, let alone before Silco was conceived.
@@TimeToGetAGoodLifethey can still tie it into the arcane lore. and they have
One line, outside of all the other amazing ones in the episode and series that breaks my heart, is Victor saying "I'm sorry, I don't know where you'd have preferred..."
The pain that he didn't get the chance to even know her that well, and giving her that much attention and care only AFTER she died is so, so brutal...
“Powder fell down a well.”
"If you take this path, they will despise you" Viktor never considered he would end up despising himself.
Arcane really came and blew everything out of the water. It gave me everything i didn't know i wanted, and after seeing how many characters League of Legends has, my hope for this "Arcane franchise" grew even higher.
It literally made me burned out on other shows because they don't give me the same feeling, tbh, they can take even 5 years to make season 2 - I wouldn't mind waiting as long as they do it justice.
@@yami2227 prolly gonna take 2-3 years, maybe even less
I'm totally behind them doing some stories from other champions, but Runeterra is an insane world. Vi, Jinx, Caitlyn, Warwick; all of these characters are at the lowest level of how powerful most of the champions in the game are, lore-wise.
I have no doubt that they're going to extend the scope of the story into Noxus, and possibly Demacia, but I don't think they can go much beyond that. The story telling would get a little difficult.
Arcane is, so far, set in a grounded world. Yeah, there's magic, but nothing like the high-fantasy stuff we would see if they started exploring the vast majority of the champion roster. Even a normal human of the freljord would basically be superman when compared to the people of Piltover/Zaun. If they portrayed them accurately, it would feel like an entirely different universe than the one they've presented so far.
@@Goomsies Frostborn humans don’t feel cold. Yet they wear furs! Although I agree on how grounded the show is, I can easily see them slowly getting into “the arcane”. We’ve already seen a real mage do magic, and heimerdinger talked about how magic destroys civilisations. We are already introduced to magic, it’s only a matter of broadening the scope.
@@GeneralPet Yeah, true. I just mean to say that the struggles of characters like Vi and Jinx would be inconsequential in the face of anything to do with, for example, the stories of some of the characters from the most recent cinematic.
Champions like Pantheon, Leona, the Volibear, Aurelion Sol; the existence of characters like them in the story of Arcane would make the story presented so far pretty much inconsequential. I guess they could get around that by only mentioning their existences through myths or stories, but I'm just using them to make my point. There are characters so powerful in runeterra that they wouldn't exactly fit in the "grounded" world that they've shown us so far.
“Today’s the day you die Silco” -Finn
*dies at daughter’s tea party 🫖
Vander and Silco’s legacies live on in their daughters.
What could’ve been is looong gone.
An incredible fun detail I noticed that just dawned on me, in the beginning of the series silco mentions how he's fond of sea monsters finding them strangely beautiful. Jinx is ultimate weapon is a shark with an x over one of its eyes, she made it for him.
In the game she says “we’ll show them all” while using Fishbones. :’)
If you look in the first episodes there's a shark pillow on the couch in her hideout that resembles her ult weapon too.
Jinx: I made her a snack.
Me: Oh my god she means that literally
Jinx reveals a cupcake.
Me: Oh thank god she meant that literally.
:D yeah it was a nice double by her. Followed by the "Sheesh even I'm not that crazy" showing full well that she knows and intended to cause fear/a big reaction within Vi.
@@6666Imperator And she did, she could also see that Vi doesnt think the same about her because she thought it was actually Caitlyn's head on that plate.
Even people who know LoL and were sure Caitlyn would be fine...still experience that split second of horrifying doubt where they WEREN'T actually sure. That one brief moment where the writers and animators had managed to convince absolutely everyone that they really did it...that they killed a Champion, for the sake of the story.
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And nobody's even mad that they didn't "have the balls" to do it, because they faked us out so expertly, and played the rest of the story so well, that all we do is accept it gratefully that Cait survived.
@@6666Imperator I think it was more of a test. Vi thinking it was actually her head on the plate meant that Vi was not only horrified of Jinx, but also thought she was that far gone.
Such a great subversion
I think that magic shield on the atlas gauntlets are designs to block rubble from crushing the user
Jace put a shield into his hammer too, so it might just be standard-issue for Jace's weapon designs
It's also a nod to Vi's Passive in League, where she gets a shield after using an ability. At least, that's what I think.
@@SaintlyDemon even if it is, this show is too well put together to not have a real in universe explanation for it.
@@TheLangenator The thing is he made the hammer after coming to the conclusion that he needs to be combat ready, so it's most likely not standard-issue.
@@TheLangenator the gauntlet was made with Viktor and lore wise makes all sense that he wanted safety measures on anything civilians would use and Jace adopted the mentality.
I honestly love where they decided to end this episode. This entire season was about Powder. She’s the first character we see, she’s the one at the center of most of the promotions for this show, she’s the one who causes basically every conflict in this season. So I think it fits perfectly that we end on the metaphorical “death” of Powder rather than having the episode go on for another 5 or so minutes and focus on the fallout from that.
Not to mention once season 2 hits (in a couple of years hopefully), seeing the aftermath will be a great way to immediately hook us back in.
False I must say Vi was the one.
@@lolicongang.4974 the first thing we see Violet's body and Powder's face (well, we see soldier first bit he's not an actual character)
@@erickl1482 let's just say that Vi is the main character, but it's Jinx's story
@@JornL not really
Main theory is that it's both Vander AND a league champion: Warwick. There's multiple hints in both the show and the game that supports this theory.
His nickname was "The Hound of the Undercity" (or something like that), that's basically them being pretty on the nose for those who play league, after that last frame with singed at least
@@honscha "who taught you how to punch?" To Vi
"You were there... let me forget" to Jinx (could refer to both episode 3 OR the lab he was made in.)
"I used to run these streets... now it's you who has to run" (he used to be some kind of leader in Zaun)
"Until you played lapDOG, after everything we suffered"
"I'll show you what you really are"
*faint WW theme plays as shimmered up Vander walks on the bridge*
@@mathies3598 yeah vander is Warwick xd
Also in warwick lore. The only memory he can remember is blood and a little girl screaming a name.
I'm curious how he turns into a dog though. And if in season 2 maybe also Mundo appears as Shimmer had effects that made the first guy look like an alpha version of Mundo already.
Victor's line where he says in our pursuit of great we failed to do good basically sums up the theme of the entire show
I'm convinced Silco is one of the best characters ever created. He made me hate him with a burning passion. And 6 episodes later I am in tears as he solidifies the spot as my favorite character
Best you met yourself, but ever created is rude overexaggeration. It's still cool that he made you feel that way.
Nice way to say you have never knew Meruem.
@@tslex6477 rude over exaggeration? How is it rude?
ooh yess silco and meruem some of the best, if not the best antagonists in a show ever imo
@@magoconcancer99 Meruem is amazing but I have Silco slightly above him for villains. Simply cause Silco has a lot more to him.
The fact that you want to cry for Silco says so much about the quality of the writing in this show. I honestly haven’t seen better characterization in anything ever
'Is there anything so undoing as a daughter' may just be my favourite line of the show.
Also, non-league players noticing Warwick is extremely impressive. I only made the connection as I knew Singed
One of the most beautiful season finales ever.
I've never been so not-mad at a cliffhanger ending because despite being a cliffhanger it's still narratively fulfilling. You don't *need* to know precisely how bad the damage from the rocket is. You already know the most important thing it destroyed - the chance of peace.
@@ecyor0 I mean peace was destroyed when Silco died, also with Silco not giving up Jinx...there won't be peace at all.
The prevailing fan theory is that yes, that is Vander in the scene in Singed’s lab. The theory revolves around the lore of the champion, Warwick, a werewolf like character created by Singed. There’s evidence of this theory in game through the use of voice lines (specifically to Jinx and Vi) and in his character bio (I highly recommend checking out both) but the most damning evidence, they’re both referred to as “The Hound of the Lanes”
Also, unrelated side note (and I’ll edit this part out if you talk about it, I commented before finishing the video) that ending song is an original piece performed by Sting and a violinist named Ray Chen, they did a live performance of it for the game awards that was just incredible.
The sounds during Vanders last fight in episode 3 also push towards that theory. The music when he gets 'shimmered up' matches with Warwicks hunting theme and the growls Vander makes while on shimmer are almost identical to Warwicks voice.
There's a YT video from the guy that wrote the song and the whole experience of working on it and getting Sting.
Silco in my mind is actually almost as tragic a character as Jinx. A lot of people i see just think Silco manipulates Jinx all the time, but in reality I think he has a twisted perspective because of his experiences, but he doesn't lie much, at least to her.
I'm pretty sure the Gemstone was the propellant, not the explosive, since we see the rocket opening up to show the chemtech explosives Jinx normally uses, I'd like to think the Gemstone was only used to deliver the missile, not explode it, so it might still be in her launcher.
Yep, the gem is probably in Fishbone's eyes
The gemstone was powering her launcher. It could go such a long distance cuz it was Hextech.
And either way, Jinx might have access to the two gems in Vi's gauntlets, depending on who picks up all the stuff in that table room.
@@krensharwhite8363 Vi was seen with at least one of the guantlets when they're looking at the rocket.
I agree it's the propellant (the only way to give her weapon the reach needed) but if it's a missile the gem would be in it, even if the explosives are separate, pure chemtech.
If the gem is in the launcher, it's some kind of ballistic device, or something pretty exotic (gem makes a small hex gate to just before the target? But it'd travel much faster).
Didn't look ballistic to me, straight line to the council window.
I just realized two cool things in the bar fight scene that in many many reactions and comment sections, I didn't hear anybody talk about.
1) when Sevika says "everyone out", you can see Thieram, the bartender, sliding under the bar in a really funny way.
2) every episode started with the jukebox putting on a record. The right end with Vi throwing Sevika into the jukebox, destroying it. There are no more episodes.
I want to comment on what Caleb was saying at the end about Riot expanding this into its own cinematic universe - They pretty much already have it built. Not just the worldbuilding, but a LOT of stories are already written. (If you're ever interested in it, go to the official "map of runeterra"). BUT, what I love is that Riot said Arcane ISN'T canon. That means that the creators of any potential future series/movies can do whatever they want, but they can still take all of the inspiration, characters and worldbuilding from the world that is already built. They're not adapting a video game, they're building a whole new world based on all of the already existing stories and cinematics. I think that's why Arcane's story was so good, and why I have high hopes for future series, including the ones that focus on other regions of the world. Riot really started something big with this show.
I didn’t know they said it wasn’t canon. That makes me excited to see what they’d do with other places like Ionia or Shurima.
Imagine seeing Varus’ backstory and the story of Zed, Shen & Jhin. the Ascension process of Shurima & Nasus. I can’t wait holy hells imagine the Shadow Isles
Didn't they state that League of Legends isn't canon, not Arcane?
@@forsenfan69 You're right, League also isn't canon. They rebooted the whole universe in 2014 where they completely got rid of the idea of summoners and summoner's rift. But they also said Arcane isn't canon. I think the only canon things right now are:
- Cinematics after "a twist of fate" in 2013
- All stories after the reboot
- Cards in Legends of Runeterra (except poros and kda cards)
- Everything in Ruined King
@@georgeytg That seems strange on Riot's side. I have to imagine that the most beloved multimedia narrative property set in the universe is Arcane. Wouldn't it make sense for them to canonize that instead?
@@forsenfan69 Arcane has many conflicts with the current lore right now. If they made it canon, they would either have to: 1. Change the Arcane lore to fit with the current lore, or 2. Retcon the current lore.
For example, hextech in current lore was supposed to be something ancient (found in Brackern species in Shurima), but here it was created recently. There's a TON of implications if hextech didn't exist before Arcane events. If that was canon, then they would have to change Camille's lore entirely, since she's currently 80 years old and has had a hextech heart for 54 years. And that's just one character.
Maybe Riot will at some point say that Arcane is indeed canon, and will rewrite a lot of the old lore, but in my opinion, I think it's better if they have their own cinematic universe.
The best detail after silco died is that you can hear the voices jinx has been hearing blowing away with the wind. Suggesting that her personallity is no longer torn/split and she now knows who she is and what she wants to do.
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vander being a certain character from league (warwick) was foreshadowed SO HARD this season, its pretty much confirmed
When vander fought on that bridge, you could even hear warwicks passive-sound in the back - also hes been called a "hound/dog" 4 times in this season - and warwick is an ex-human whos been turned into a "werewolf-like-thing" by singed (the professor who helped jinx, viktor, and whos sitting next to.. well, vander hanging there.
Basically everyone in the league community agrees with this, and everyone who doesnt just says "well its not confirmed yet"
Silco was a monster who turned into a human to save his daughter.
Vander was a human who turned into a monster to save his daughter.
It’s only fitting that Silco would die as a human whereas Vander continues to live as a monster. Another tragic circumstance where both brothers end up turning into something they hate to save the ones they love.
After finishing this show, there was a profound emptiness because I’d never watched something so brilliantly executed. It’s a masterpiece and the fact that it’s based on the lore of top-down MOBA video game is incredible. This is unprecedented. Raised the bar to an unreachable height.
I’m hoping you guys have a similar reaction to me and decide to explore more Runeterra/LoL content and give us reactions, too. All of Riot’s cinematics are mind-blowing. Even without knowing anything about LoL. Riot has also put out a lot of music. They’ve created virtual bands. They have a spin-off card game based on the lore of Runeterra. There’s so much for you guys to see and believe me when I say Riot has consumed 90% of my time on RUclips the last few weeks since finishing the show, from exploring the cinematics, to watching reactions to those same cinematics, to the music, etc.
so true - I have still a void I can't fill in because no show hits me at the moment as Arcane did. And to be honest -a show never hit me this hard before.
This is something I just thought of (maybe someone else thought the same. The whole title of “The Monster You Created” can be brought back to episode 8 when Vi and Caitlyn are talking about how Vi and Powder used to play as kids. Vi says that she used to create monsters to fight them and sometimes she would scare Powder with her creations then say that “no monster’s ever gonna get you when I’m here.”
Exactly, and in episode 6 we see the very same monsters drawn on the wall by Powder in their old dwelling where Vi and Caitlyn have sought refuge. I love how this show is filled with clues/forshadowing for practically everything!
“Don’t cry. You’re perfect” while Vi made her cry and called her a jinx last time powder made a mistake. Silco best dad
Jinx is one of the most beautiful characters I've ever seen. Her story is the perfect example of of a beautiful tragedy
Interesting parallel is how Powder botched her family and friends’ escape thinking she was doing what they’d want and then Jinx botched Silco’s dreams coming true thinking she was doing what he’d want.
(There is however a possibility that she actually did know about the deal, which means she knowingly wrecked his dreams coming true, but Silco did choose Jinx over his dreams in the end, so she’d actually just be following what he wanted for real…)
@GraffitiTurtle Yep! That’s why I added an extra comment to this
@GraffitiTurtle probably, but it doesn't matter that much to me 🤷♂️ I added it at least, so it's enough for me
11:59 Vi's passive. Saved me in the game, saved her in the show.
Technically it should proc off an attack, but yeah. It's a nice touch.
It even makes sense from what we learned in the show, too. Jayce said the gauntlets were for miners. Having a shield that can defend you from something above would save lives from things like a cave-in.
@@Kasia120612 It not make sense, they said it was for a faster and easy job (and for "easy" they mean no fatigue), they NEVER mention something about unsafe mines, like, the gauntlets are more unsafe than the mine itself, with what the show told us.
@@magoconcancer99 Yes, they never directly said it, but it makes sense. The gauntlets were designed for miners, and Jayce/Viktor were oblivious to how well they would work as weapons.
they don't have to mention it. it simply makes sense that if it's made for miners, for normal civilians, it should have an ability to save and protect the user. jayce and viktor didn't even think of its potential as a weapon at first...
The tea party was a test for Vi. It was laid out to test what Vi's reaction is to who Jinx is not who she was when she was Powder. Vi failed. She was obviously repelled by the scene, and the final nail was when she assumed the cupcake was Katelyn's head. Jinx realized Vi would never accept her.
And when vi starts saying remember the others, jinx says "stop" in a depressed tone. But vi keeps going.
Vi loves her sister obviously but she would never enable her like Silco did. That is the love Jinx thinks is unconditional and true, not letting her be accountable for her actions, (like killing the Enforcers, the bombings etc.) and based on Jinx's reaction to all of the things she's done and Silco's anger, she just laughs it off and that was it, she's forgiven because she got the hextech stone. Since Jinx was a kid Silco let her do whatever she wanted and became a loose canon. Now look where that got him, it all blew up in his face.
We all know Silco loves Jinx but he also projected his abandonment issues and trauma onto her and let's be honest, he kinda spoiled her by not correcting her bad behavior. Parenting is all about balance.
Also remember the fact that Vi has been in prison for 5-6 years, that's why she still thinks Powder is still in there. Vi understands that Jinx did what she had to do to survive, she said so herself but they both changed and they realize this by the end.
I noticed that a lot of people are really ignoring Vi's perspective on all of this and that she's the only one at fault, but every single one of these characters have done something wrong and that is a very human thing to do, they're complex and gray! This is an amazingly written tragedy after all. And as much as yall are convinced that Powder is gone, she will always be a part of Jinx, separated? Maybe but she will always be there, at the bottom of a well but that's just my couple of cents.
@@MordredAngstromshe still refuses to except that her sister will never be that person again
The scene when Jinx is about to fire the rocket, the music in the background and as soon as i heard Silco in her head saying "We`ll show them all" ...... I got shivers
I'm amazed by the optimism for their relationship, the moment I finished this episode I was like "ah and this is how two mortal enemies came to be."
That scene with Silco at Vander's statue man...I did not think I would actually like Silco when I watched the first episode, but he was just an amazing villain.
Mama-darda: I would burn the world to protect our family!
Silco: They can all burn!
I shipped 'em..😍🙏🤣🤣
Season 2 can't come fast enough. What's even worse though is knowing how long it will realistically take for a season 2 to be produced. Dammit this show is high art.
There is a little hope, because despite them saying it took 6 years, that includes stuff like getting the project kicked off from the ground, so they don't need to do any handshaking and convincing to get season 2 to get produced. I'd say maybe 2-4 years, which is kind of sad that it'll be that long, but honestly this was the best show I have seen in years and would absolutely wait 4 years for it.
@@OnionKnightRises afaik they said it would either be late 2023 or early 2024. So it's actually much closer than expected.
It's coming out November 2024
Neet little detail someone pointed out. The robo arm with the shimmer. She changed it from auto cartridge to a manual one cause it was a weakpoint of the design.
she was also seen in episode 8 tinkering with it and fine tuning it while finn talks to her. This being right after her previous fight with Vi. So she realizes the weaknesses right away and is willing to adapt. She'll make a great leader in Zaun in silco's wake.
edit- the second one is on the catwalk just behind the two of them, and vi is wearing the undamaged one. So she takes them back.
It's unbelievable how Silco's death reveals how much loving Jinx has altered the fundamentals of his being.
Zaun: no explanation needed.
Betrayal: He who values loyalty and loathes treachery above all, forgives and comforts his killer, even though he is betrayed, again, by the person he loves most, in a previous event that defined him.
Jinx: therefore, he might believe that Powder won out, since she chooses to save Vi. So he doesn't repeat "Jinx is perfect." But "You're perfect." Whoever his daughter decides to be.
Rage: As you say, in his final moments, he stops fighting, lets the waters take him, the monster rest. "Have you had enough?" He finally has, and goes gentle into that long night.
Why did you make Silco's death SADDER? 😭
I'm surprised you noticed the hanging body in the room with Singed at the end.
Spoilers so I'll put this below in case anyone doesn't want to know what might happen:
The fan theory is that is indeed Vander, and he's going to become Warwick. The lore adds up, there's many videos that show it.
Warwick's music played in the back of Episode 3 when he had the shimmer affect him and he was growling, and Warwick has a metal hand that replaced the same hand Vander injured when he tried to kill Silco in his past
plus the in game voice lines
Yeah I didn't even see that silhouette!
Caleb using his super deduction skills on the possible theory that's going around the community haha! A lot of the community is speculating that Vander indeed is the guy at the very end, but there's no definitive confirmation of it. Very excited to see if it plays out once season 2 happens haha!
He is called warwick and it has to be him. His lore fits and he also has interactions in game with jinx and vi.
@@jinxedmeta1963 there's many hints yes, but it's never confirmed. Also arcane is not canon. So it's not 100% confirmed but it is the most likely option.
I know it's not canon, like Vi and Jinx being sisters. But they put it here on purpose because they knew league players would go read WW's lore. And it fits Vander pretty well. They also teased Blitzcrank with Jayce and Viktor. I'm hyped.
And in the first episode he's called "The Hound of the Underground". Sounds like foreshadowing to me!
I mean they've given us too many reasons to think it's him, that if they backed out it would just be awkward. His ingame interactions, the end scene, "Hound of the Underground", his "death" being very similar to Warwick's lore. It all matches up.
I will never get over how many subtle touches there are to the animation in this show - I didn't even notice Silco's eyes darting toward Vi when saying "her" during his speech to Jinx until this particular watch.
0:59 *They weren't fighting children. He just accidentally shot that kid who happened to be caught in the crossfire. All those juiced up shimmer guys they were fighting were grown men. You can catch a glimpse of how one of them looks like behind their bubble glass helmet when they are emerging out after the red button was pushed.*
0:53 They weren't fighting children. Those guys in chemtank suits are adults or teens like the one who drank shimmer in Ep3. The children just work there, they are not combatants.
The symbolism is that those in the chemanks were once in the the same stage of those very children currently are.
This show may be my favorite show of all time? Im 31 and have seen A LOT of stuff but the pacing, tone, music, sound, voices, animation, world, characters, development, etc etc are all at an incredible level AND mix so well constantly. Such a great experience.
agreed it’s so amazing
In Episode 2, Vi would have started a war with Piltover just like Silco would have done for her in Episode 9, but now Vi wouldn't have done that anymore.
Also, when Jinx asked Vi to kill Caitlyn (make her to away) she was referring to how when they were children, Vi used to chase their imaginary monsters away.
Caitlyn was one of those monsters in her eyes.
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Thats essentially the theme of the entire show.
No one is completely right or wrong.
No one is completely good or evil.
No one is completely black or white.
Everyone is a little bit of both.
Vander is the "Paragon of Virtue" character (Like Obi-wan) BUT he's a criminal and a murderer, even if he did it for the right cause.
Silco is the "Archetypal Villain" character (Like Vader) BUT even tho his methods are ruthless and cruel, his cause is actually just.
Vi is a "Robin Hood" type of character, Caitlyn is a "Letter of the Law" type of character.
Viktor/Jayce
Grayson/Marcus
Echo/Heimerdinger
All are two sides of one coin and all of them embodies both sides even in themselves.
Its all about duality..
No one is actually *truly* evil, not even Silco.
He's not hurting people for no reason, he's not a blood thirsty sadist hurting people for his own amusement.
He only ever does it to further his cause which is to rid the undercity of the oppression of Piltover.
In his eyes no individual is worth more than the freedom of his people.
Until Jayce demands Jinx ofc.
Silcos monologue to Vanders statue is by far the best scene in the show btw.
Jinx being both the exception AND the poetically beautiful pinnacle of this by being none of it and both of them at the same time due to her Split personality.
Jinx/Powder, more than any other, highlights this by both being the same person.
Jinx being the ultimate chaos and Powder being the ultimate innocence.
Its such a basic, common sense concept unfortunately lacking in todays entertainment industry.
And with so phenomenal writing,
This is what makes the show so god damn authentic and human.
Its the best animated show of all time, it might be the best show of all time period.
Absolute master class.
The Jinx seat gives her her fallen angel wings when she finally sits down in it, complete with the odd black feather hanging off it. :)
I love the fact that Jinx essentially cuts the head of both Piltover and Zaun
Also, I would love Vander returning as Warwick but for the sisters to never learn he is back, just keep his past secret from everyone except the audience and have it be sad by itself
Also also, there might have been a possibility that Slico was that desperate to escape his constraints because Vi mentioning their family was hurting Jinx, since he was never that desperate at any point before that
The way I interpreted Silco trying to shoot Vi is that he was trying to protect Jinx. What Vi doesn't get is that Claggor and Milo aren't pleasant memories for Jinx. They are the shadow monsters that whisper and torment her. Silco, having been with Jinx in the aftermath, sees that and tries to help Jinx but stopping Vi. Vi, while trying to help, making Jinx confront her trauma but not in the best way. Its very confrontational so Silco panicked and attacked Vi.
When powder messed up and killed vander, Vi hit her. When she messed up and killed Silko, he told her she was perfect.
I love how the series’s other (third) father-daughter pair is also central to a variety of conflicts, but not directly stated. It’s cool how so many parent-child relationships (or even metaphorical ones) serve as the foundation for the story.
All about the family :D
Silcos dying words proved he really did love Jynx. Manipulative that he was, he really wanted the best for her. One of the best written villains of the decade
I didn't realize when I first watched it the depth of what's going on when Silco and Vi are yelling over each other and Silco tries to shoot her. Vi doesn't understand that those memories are painful for Jinx, even if Powder is still in there, bringing up the people she killed is NOT how you will get through to her because remembering them is deeply traumatic for her and Vi seems to completely disregard Jinx's suffering because all she wants is Powder back. Silco shoots Vi not necessarily because he's worried Vi will get through to her or something, but because Vi is hurting his daughter and he wants to stop it.
Another thing that I don't think is mentioned much is how complex the consequences Silco's final words actually are. Despite the undeniable love between Silco and Jinx and how beautiful his words are in the moment, those words very likely lock Jinx into her current mentality permanently. She was concerned about whether Vi could accept her, and Silco accepts her unconditionally even after she shoots him, and what does he say? that she's perfect. If you're mentally unstable and the person that loves you unconditionally tells you you're perfect as they die, well are you going to be very inclined to change in the future? It's a beautiful moment but not the most healthy, sometimes it's important for loved ones to be constructively critical of your choices and actions if they are destructive or unhealthy. I think Vander is a perfect example of a stern parental figure who doesn't endorse or let everything slide, but even when he's firm he's not mean or abusive. Silco if anything, even before his death, was a little too lenient with Jinx. I also saw an interesting theory that Jinx's "I made her a snack" moment was actually a test for Vi, would Vi actually believe Jinx would do something so terrible? and Vi failed.
On a less interpersonal level also I remember seeing someone point out how Jinx kind of represents the Undercity in general. All the ingenuity and creativity and individuality, but also all the pain and anguish and chaos and volatility of the undercity is all represented in Jinx. Silco's soft spot for her and his response to the deal suddenly becomes pretty interesting when thinking of Jinx this way. Obviously as a person Silco loves Jinx and doesn't want to give her up, but as a metaphor for Zaun giving Jinx up could be seen as Zaun also losing what makes it special, and also that Silco is hesitant to give that up. He even alludes a little bit to it a few times how he doesn't want Zaun to necessarily be sanitized into some sort of Pilltover 2.0, he's directly critical of other people who have "spent too much time in the sun".
Silko attempted to kill vi, because he saw what memories of vander and others does to jinx. Then last of powder kill Silko to protect vi. Then jinx laid powder to rest forever. 'Here' s to the new us. '
What I like about the fact that Silco couldn't talk at the table is that in the beginning he dindn't even try to talk, he was calm, he only tried talking when Vi told Jinx the idea of getting away and never coming back, he heard that and started to talk because of the fear of losing Jinx for ever. Thats one of the things that I love about how the made Silco and Jinx father/daughter relationship, you can't deny the love and care they have for each other but at the same time is so messed up, it isn't healthy because both have so many abandonment issues, he isn't capable of letting his daughter go, but every father or parent should be prepared for their sons/ Daughters to grow up and live their life, that was imposible for him and for Jinx who is stuck in a childish mindset , Silco was so calm while he was dying, he didn't care, he only wanted Jinx to know that he loved her more than anything and its obvious he would choose death before losing her or seeing her sad. I also like the choice of words, when he baptized her he said "Jinx is perfect" but in here he said "You are perfect" its all of her, no matter what she decides or not decides for him she always be perfect, and that makes Jinx's decicion more powerful because it was her choice, she decided for better or worse, aaaaaa such a great show, what a master piece ❤❤❤❤
Maybe it's just me, but seeing Silco and Jinx this episode reminded me of a MC-adopted father dynamic in a certain Viking anime
Vinland saga i assume? had the same feeling.
askeladd and thorfinn ;(
yes but there was way more direct love and affection. I also think Silco has fear of being abandoned by Jinx like how vander left him which I don't think Askellad ever felt towards Thorfin
Quite the opposite actually - Jinx attached herself to Silco to sate her need for familial love, Thorfinn stuck with Askeladd out of his desire for revenge. There was no love lost between the latter, with Thorfinn only finding forgiveness for Askeladd years after his death. Askeladd in turn would have taken Jayce’s deal in a heartbeat in Silco’s place.
@@FrizFroz yeah wait thats not the opposite its the same as I am saying Askellad never felt that strong about Thorffin/ he didn't care
"In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good." GODDAMN IS THAT LINE GOOD
I think what makes this hurt so much is because it is architypal, it is the most extreme. Litterally in every single sense, everything would be better for everyone else had she not existed. It hurts to even think that of someone whom we've seen suffer so much.
You should check out wearemako’s video on the making of “What Could Have Been”. Like everything else Arcane, you get to see the incredible attention to detail by the creators. Really cool look inside the art and the process.
Silco is the closest to a perfect villain I've ever seen. 11/10.
The fact that he only wants to kill Vi when he sees the amount of damage Vi was doing to Jinx when calling her old family, was only to protect Jinx. And in the end his death with the validation of a great father, saying to his daughter she's perfect, he wouldn't change her in any way, may help Jinx solidify her personality. It's beautiful.
I agree with everything except calling him a great father. He's far from it. He loves her, but that's not enough. A great father would see that she's not perfect, she has flaws, major ones at that, but love her anyway. Family is supposed to be there for you not only to validate you but also to help you become a better person. Then there's the whole thing of "well he's a villain himself, ofcourse this is what he views as the perfect daughter." Now here's the thing: maybe bad people shouldn't be in a position qualified for parenting. Crazy, I know. But if they lived in Piltover, Powder would've been taken away from Silco and raised in a better environment.
I think him saying she's perfect as she is also doomed her, since with the belief instilled in her that she was perfect as she is right now would probably not let her grow in a healthy way. Silco and Vi cared for her and even if Silco is the one who really understands her right now since V i is stuck on past, he still let the negative parts of Jinx to fester instead of helping her through it. If you really care about someone, you'll help them get over either physical,emotional, or psychological problems, not leave it as that or worsen it (Vi also worsened it also, unknowingly). That's like seeing a child do bad things and not doing anything about it, therefore unkowingly encouraging that kind of behaviour no matter how destructive it is. It irks me how many people didn't see the negative effect of that validation. A great parent will love you unconditionally with all the flaws we have and help us to be a better person than we are right now, or else we would be stuck with our bad habits.
It really irks me how a lot see him as a great parent because of personal reasons, when I was younger I was a bit of a kleptomaniac and my parent love me, but they also understand that me getting things from others without permission is not right, so they helped understand and work through it, not ignore it. If they told me I was perfect no matter how many things I steal from others, I would probably a thief right now. They saw my flaws, but they helped me get over it, and that's real parenting and true love from a parent. They care about you and want you to be a better person, not let you get stuck in the idea that of "Oh, my parent told me I'm perfect, and if so why should I change", when we clearly have flaws that are destructive, not only to others, but for ourselves.
I don't know if I was able to get my thoughts clearly since English is not first language, but here it is.
Also, this show is amazing (which I didn't ecpect honstly), and nothing makes me like a story more, than a story that let's us see, interpret, and analyze things from different perspectives. Long discussions are great, which is also why I like this channel for they have long discussions abour every episode.
My big takeaway from that Singed moment; Singed knocked out Silco to save the trauma of watching the healing, while Vander (Warwick) was chained to the ceiling, forced to watch Singed work on her.
You know how they said the character of the Joker is a mirror of society's failings and sins? I think Jinx is likewise a reflection of the violence she endured and witnessed, the oppression of Zaun and her stifling, brutal growing environment. But in a way, her madness, the bad luck she trails after her, make her almost an instruments in the hands of some retributive divinity, dishing out vengeance and punishment in some blind version of justice. She's the Lady of Misrule, and she redirects back, topsy-turvy, the sins and violence at the sinners. Therefore she is Silco's undoing (while being his greatest gift. god, I love his character, but what a poetic death), and also Piltover's new nightmare. I predict therefore that the only hope for Jinx's peace, or let's say appeasement, can only happen once Piltover's addressed its original sin, the oppression of Zaun, and a measure of peace is brought to the Undercity.
Thank you for your reactions, one of the best!!! There is the scene in last 9th episode which I find very important for season 2, but a lot people overlooked it. When Silco and Jayce was meeting on city walls, Jayce said: "I was reminded recently of what brought us together in the first place The threats beyond our walls". And Silco had answered: "The city has a short memory". Threats beyond OUR walls! Like Noxus Empire, the mommy general Medarda is part of! So I hope, that in Season 2, the both parts of the City, after some struggle, will be forced to cooperate for survival and fight the outsiders to remain independent!
P.S. Family dinner is the great dramatic ending! It make me too look forward to 2. season even more, and for me cliffhanger do not matter. The satisfying end of the season one is the Jinx deciding who she is. When she sat on that chair with Jinx name like a boss, this is it! She finally accepted who she is and her past is not tearing her personality apart, no more, scars remain, but she let go her past, like Silco try to told her earlier!
remember the raven Jinx shot down in the arcade ? the raven was standing on the shooting game, but it's a real target and Jinx got a real gun now, the raven was then made into Jinx's pen for her Hextech research and yes, the "Jinx's chair" .Ravens also symbolism for "change", 3rd eye, witch craft,.... which all the traits can be found in Jinx, black birds can also be consider bad luck, of course.
A thing I noticed about the wonderful scene between Jayce and Victor, at the ledge where Victor threw Sky's ashes and delivered that amazing quote, the shape of the "hole" where they stand and their position in said place, it very much looks like a skull. Idk if it has any specific indication but Victor wishing for the Hexcore to be destroyed despite its potential to save his life, is kinda him signing his death sentence.
I love that on one hand, the end of the season does feel like a cliff hanger, cutting off before the literal big bag, but, on the other, when you think about it there's nothing more to the basic story that the viewer can't conclude for themselves. Jinx and Vi will never be sisters as they used to again, Pilltover and the undercity wage war and the undercity will probably lose in a bloody battle and history will repeat itself. Any chance at peace between the two sides have been shattered.
The Arcane S2 trailer was very brief, but Warwick’s theme song is apparently in there somewhere. If the tease wasn’t enough, Warwick will definitely be in S2 - and I’m also betting it’s Vander.
I’m not well-versed in League lore but when Arcane came out I did look up if Warwick had a name (and he doesn’t). Something about Vander’s design makes him look werewolf-y, and the subtle hints at calling him a dog and such.
I recommend The Canipa Effect's video on just how why and how Arcane got developed and rare THIS type of udnertaking this type animation is and why it's so good/unique in the first place.
The last action of Jinx also fulfills the conversation that Vi had with Powder when Vi stated that "one day the city is going to respect us."
Caleb is the first person I've seen react to this that actually noticed Vander/Warwick in Singed's lab!
Yeah, that jinx ult is GLOBAL baby! XD This is gonna rock the whole damn region.
If I had to describe the entire plot of Arcane perfectly and vaguely with one line: is there anything so undoing as a daughter?
SO many characters have daughters and they’re always a plot point.
The faces in the thumbnail LMAOOO
The perfect reaction tbh
This show had zero right to be this good.
great discussion as always.
hoping for some league related stuff on stream boys !
even us league fans hate the game most of the time, but we all agree; cinematics, music videos, lore stuff, it's all done really well. it's really worth checking out, even stuff that is completely unrelated to arcane. of course this is up to you, if u want to just stick with the show and wait for season 2 that is completely fine.
the 3rd act really was phenomenal, episodes 7,8,9 were pretty much perfect. hope riot keeps up with the good work, cheers
One thing to note -- Mel turns around long before anyone else even started to notice the missile. And, on top of that, the light that appears to be reflecting off the gold she's wearing doesn't really have a source -- there's nothing from that direction that could have been casting that light. And, the sound design shifts dramatically in that moment, in a similar manner to the more subtle effects of hextech. AND Mel is portrayed visually as a source of light at many, many points in the show (e.g. the very bright flashlight in episode 3; her introduction scene when the sun is a harsh illuminating backlight). AND her clothes as a child have a design remiscent of sun/light imagery.
I'm pretty convinced that Mel weilds some kind of magic related to light. After all, she was the only council member to be gung-ho about hextech from the start -- if she's a magic wielder already, she knows the potential it could have for Piltover.
I don't know if this is a Noxus thing, or unique to Mel (and could be part of what shaped her to be different from Mamadarda), but I think that that magic is going to be what saves Victor and Jayce, but probably not any others on the council.
Which, if this is the case, adds a whole new layer to the Piltover/Zaun and Piltover/Noxus and Noxus/[unnamed threat] dynamics -- if the leader of Piltover, the daughter of the ruler of Noxus, wields magic openly, it could very well open the floodgates for a lot more non-hextech magic to enter the fray. Magic seems to have been somewhat suppressed in Piltover, thanks to Heimerdingers founding principles, but he's gone, and she will quickly become the most powerful person in Piltover. There's no reason to believe that, if she weilds magic, that she's the only one. More and more will come out of the woodwork, fighting and peacekeeping on all sides, because the zeitgeist around magic has shifted.
So glad to hear your high praise for this show, this shows writing is something else, man everything just works out perfectly in the show in ways you don't often see, it's crazy
I loved rewatching this show with you guys! Thank you for the incredible reactions, they were definitely worth becoming a Patreon. Arcane has quickly risen in my top 3 favourite animated shows of all time. Truly fantastic
I just love Silco's character so much...up until the end he loved Jinx, and when he was about to shoot Vi, was because by saying all the names of the past family (Vander, Mylo, etc) she was hurting Jinx instead of helping her, which drove him mad
Out of all the reactors post discussion, this one by far has the most depth to it.
Most reactors simply discuss things that can be perceived on the surface.
23:05 * Mischievous giggling *
I'm glad you guys mentioned Jinx being Jinx. For the first time in her life now JInx can be who she wants and while terrifying, will allow her to choose her own path. And maybe let her smile some.
I'm so glad the bros gave this show a chance. Became curious and finish the season. Hope to see you guys again for season 2.
To quote abridged Kirito in regeards to what these writers do to my emotions, "God damn you, I'm sick and tired of you kicking my heart in the d!@k"!
i think that the only way to GET the POWDER ending is that Vi is the one to die and Silco lives. to simply put --
Vi dies = POWDER
Silco dies = JINX
i know theres not much point commenting because this is a year old, but you were right about the thing on the roof of singed's lab being vander. Vander gets experimented on and turned into warwick, he even uses the same growls as in the gamefiles of warwick in LoL, and it plays warwick's theme when vander is being dragged to the chair. and he even gets called "the hound of the underground" in episode 1! as well as there being lots of voicelines in game that relate to vi and jinx
Just hoping you guys see this!
There's a small teaser for season 2!!! You should definetely see - react to that if you havent already!
I have to say from all the reactors Ive watched (and there have been A LOT), Im so glad to see finally the first one to aknowledge that Jinx didnt "accidentally" kill Silco but it was an active choice to protect Vi. I also want to point out that your analysis on Silco while I dont want to put in a spectrum of right and wrong, as its entirely subjective I guess on how each individual interpretates his actions, is the closest to how I think of him... A very bad person, a bad father, but with uncoditional love for his daughter... Great reaction all around for the entire season you managed to become favorites without having even heard of you before, So ill be sure to check out more of you! Keep it up!