SIG SAUER P365 AXG LEGION | I'm Having Issues
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- I'm back again with another gun video. This time we're talking specifically about the Sig Sauer P365 AXG Legion. As I go on to explain in the video, my experience shooting this gun has been mixed. I'd first like to acknowledge that this gun is reliable. In the 600 or so rounds that I've shot through this pistol, I have had zero malfunctions. Frankly though, for the price, I expect that to be the case. A gun this expensive should work and be reliable right out of the box. What I have noticed is that I cannot shoot this weapon as accurately or as precisely as my P365 X Macro.
I believe my lack of accuracy is due to two reasons. First, I'm ovvrgripping the pistol. Secondly, and most important, I am out of time with the gun. I am anticipating the recoil of the weapon too early, and muscling the gun down before I break the shot, causing my shots to go off of my point of aim. Being in time with your gun and resetting the trigger under is critical to ensuring good accuracy and ensuring fast rates of fire. I am still working on developing the proper time synchronization as part of proper recoil management.
This will not be the last time I talk about this weapon, I will do a full review once I have reached 1000 rounds through the gun. Until then, let me know your thoughts in the comments below. Enjoy.
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What’s nice about it is that you have the fcu and are able to switch out grips and slide and do whatever you can dream of doing
Zero issues of any kind. Yes, it is really that good and makes for an excellent concealed carry firearm.
@@BanditApache-nd6lu totally agree
I had the same issues with the magazines at full capacity very hard to rack the slide but I loaded the magazines and let them sit for a few days and broke them in and broke the pistol in and now I have no problems with it at all the pistols absolutely great
Dude I can't wait to get my axg!!!
I got my axg about 2 weeks ago. In the first 500rounds I had 4-5 malfunctions with cheap/budget ammo. Switched ammo with another 500 in with no problems. Another problem I had from factory, was the irons were to the left. Thought it was me not being used to micros. Added a red dot and shooting has greatly improved.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Hard rack - My X Macro comp was the same till broken in and will expect no different when take the Legion to the range today. Grip - The grips feel different in my hand meaning, may be some adapting for accuracy by me too.
Nice too see someone changing a tool and admitting the problem is them, not the tool. Change always means adapting to it. To many are quick to bash the change when the real problem is not adapting to it instead.
Good day sir,
I’ve had similar issues with extremely tight tolerances of the mag spring on both my 365 AXG Legion and my 365 Spector comp. So much so I was convinced I had reassembled them incorrectly. But proved not to be the case.
Removed two rounds from my EDC mag, while leaving the other mags full to compress the spring and alternating the mags through my EDC rotation. This has solved my issue after 7-10 days. Now 1000+ rounds later, both run flawlessly.
Hope this helps. Least to know, it’s not just you. lol
Happy shooting!
Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s definitely good to know that it’s not just me having the mag issues
I've had mine since April, and I've had the same issues with accuracy from the AXG and to add, I've run into issues with the slide not locking to the rear after emptying a magazine...I put Javelins in both my Icarus Precision/Norrso XL build and my AXG and it helped slightly with slide manipulation, but still pretty stiff on the AXG.
Thank you for the honest review. Subscribed waiting for your follow up after break in is complete.
@@chadfilbert1366 I posted the follow up a week ago, you should be able to view it as it’s my latest video. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks for watching
Self eval and awareness is key! Amazing video! Keep at it brother
Thank you! See you out on the range!
The answer is yes!
AXG 1000% I have 1700 rounds through mine and I’m very accurate with it plus not even 1 malfunction with different ammo fired
that's awesome dude. keep putting in work and I'm glad yours is working out for you. I've since shot mine more and remedied a lot of the issues I was having
chambering first round is prevalent in new mags. Load them full, and then cycle them through on the range. Rinse repeat 100x. The spring will loosen up and will still be tough to chamber the first out of 17 rounds. I saw an issue with replacement iron sights loosening due to the cerakote on the slide. Readjusted and added red loctite and saw no more issues. Wait til your slide develops the "rattle". It's annoying but doesn't cause any firing issues. Sig customer service says "it is still within specs". Just unusual for a slide to get that loose at under 1000 rounds fired.
I just passed 1000 rounds yesterday and it officially has the rattle
The obvious answer, to me, you don’t have issues with the Macro with the red dot but you do with the AXG Legion with irons. I see this quite often at the local state range. The two guns are essentially the same gun with small exceptions of the lower metal frame on the Legion. I’m working with a young lady. Can shoot with red dot but irons she’s consistently shooting left. When I have here target focus, she fine. Front site focused, left every time.
@@monicaarredondo1250 what was the solution you gave her to be precise with irons?
@@WornDownCrown I’ve tried many ways to explain but what seems the easiest is to have the student close their non dominant eye and get on target. They will focus on the front site for sure. Without moving the gun, focus on the target..the front site is still on target even though it may be blurred. Shift between target focus and front site focus. They will quickly see the difference because the eye can only focus on one plane at a time. Now, still focused on the target without moving the gun, open both eyes 👀, by staying focused on the target the front site is still on target. There are RUclips videos and articles about this subject. I worked with an older guy wearing trifocals. His head was going up and down trying to get the best lens aligned. He was getting so frustrated so when I offered to help, he was trilled. I had him take off the glasses and asked if he could see the target clearly (10 yards) to which he responded “yes”. With unloaded gun I had him come up on target (focused) and pull the trigger a few times. Shooting a four inch group at ten yards easily. With practice, he got better and better. As a general comment, people have a tendency to overthink things. You can clearly shoot with your red dot so transition to the irons by using the same concept of looking at the target…instead of a red dot you’ll still see the front site interfering the target. Good luck. I mentioned RUclips, put in “Point Shooting vs iron sites”
I’ll absolutely try that. I shoot a Glock 19 with precision HD XR irons from Trijicon and I seem to do okay with that, but I’ll put that technique into practice and see what the results are. I always shoot with both eyes open because that’s how we should do it, but I appreciate you further breaking down the mechanics of it. Hopefully it leads me to interface with the weapon more efficiently.
Thank you so much for the response.
@@WornDownCrown attached is a video re point shooting. ruclips.net/video/TDP-7Zv7jd0/видео.htmlsi=8Cn7vil-R2ED_lvF
I’m not sure if this is a fair comparison but I would love to see the AXG up against the M&P 2.0 Metal Carry Comp
What you have there is a 365 AXG Legion which has the X-Macro Comp upper and 3.1" barrel, and an X-Macro TacOps with a 3.7 barrel. I have both the X-Macro Comp and the X-Macro TacOps. Personally I prefer the TacOps version. Have you bench fired the 'Legion yet to confirm point of impact is really that far off? If you have, check your front tight with a calipers. That's a dovetail front sight and could be very slightly drifted off target. Being just a few thousandths off can make a point of impact difference downrange.
I posted a follow up video to this one where I shot over 600 more rounds through it and I determined that my accuracy issues were primarily my own fault. I was overgripping the gun, my stance was slightly off, and I was prematurely anticipating the recoil. Addressing these issues directly during training alleviated the problem and my shots started to go back towards the center of the A zone. Next time I'll bench fire it to test that theory as well.
I have the XMAcro “ comp” it basically sucks with accuracy beyond 15 yards honestly im a ton better with my Glock 19
Man really, my experience is completely different.
Any rust on the slide of Macro ???
@@thepatriotsrock2 nope, none that I’ve noticed yet
Thanks for the content. 2 weeks and ~1000 rounds later, my P365 AXG reliability is 100%. That said, my mags are pinned for 10 rounds (NJ :( so my experience may be totally different. I'd love to know how your gun performs after break-in. Hopefully our "high capacity" magazine ban is repealed asap so I can have the same problems :)
nope my mags are blocked to 10 as well per HI state law. glad to hear yours is working for you though
@@WornDownCrown wondering if you also tried with other ammo brands (or snap caps). I’ve only tested with home defense (Hornady 135gr +P) and obviously shot plenty with my range ammo of choice (New Republic 115 gr).
@@captainshaq federal HST 124gr HP, Winchester 124gr HP +P, Fiocchi 115gr FMJ, CCI 115gr FMJ, federal 124gr FMJ and 147gr FMJ, cycles it all just fine
Between the two which one would you recommend as beginner gun? i.e. save $ for ammo or go straight with the axg legion?
@@mcswagsurfin that’s a tough call, but if your budget is tight and getting the AXG would kill your budget, save money so you can still train and get the macro.
Reading the manual says to lock the slide back when loading full mag.
Bold of you to assume that I read instructions.
Never understood the breaking in thing. When I buy a high end gun, it should work perfectly from first shot.
As much as I’d love to say there was no break in period, that wasn’t the reality. I had to put rounds through the gun before I could feel fully comfortable with it
Did yours loosen up tolerances like 1911 syndicates did?
Yep that’s exactly what happened
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After how many rounds?
@@CannonCountry once I passed the 1000 round mark it loosened up a lot and started rattling
@@WornDownCrown did you contact sig about it? That seems like a major design flaw
@@CannonCountry no. It doesn’t affect reliability at all. It actually enhanced it. Unless the gun stops shooting or something catastrophic happens I won’t be calling SIG about it.
Put slide back insert magazine release slide solved
Mine is rock solid. Dry fire more
You should watch the sequel to this video where I solved a lot of the problems I was having
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Red dot vs no red dot...? 🤔
My legion has no red dot and my macro has a Romeo X. I will say I miss having a red dot on my gun
Mine is 100% reliable.
Buy a macro and any aftermarket metal grip and you’re already have a gun that’s better and cheaper minus the trash ass legion cerakote
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It just sounds like you just need more range time.
you should watch my follow up video where I got some more range time. I think we could all use some more of that.
Tell me you have a training issue without telling me you have a training issue. Zero problem with the 365 AXG. And you’re playing indoors with live ammo SMDH! Get some competent instruction now!!!!!
Imagine watching a video where I lay out the things I need to improve upon and then thinking I'm blaming it on the AXG. That's basically what you just did. I've went and worked on those issues and I can shoot the AXG a lot better now.
Additionally, I handled the weapon as safely as I could while using that ammo. I never had an ND because I followed the 3rd rule of firearm safety. I assume you know what that is. When you're going to carry, I assume you're chambering a round, indoors, before you've left your house. Think about that before you try to criticize me for how I handle my weapons.
Sad you took it so personally, you came across as “self taught” . Demonstration with live ammo ALWAYS should be on the range. Make ready and holster are not demonstrative exercises. I have no desire to get in a urine stream fencing contest but you did some things that were not kosher in the video.
@@georgemoore3304 I've received training from multiple sources and it's something I continue to seek out and work on on my own. I'm always trying to improve and that's why I posted a follow-up video to this one.
Regarding loading the weapon, I think you're missing my point. Regardless of whether it's for the purpose of demonstration or loading and holstering, you're still administratively handling the weapon. the objectives are different but the action is still the same. The risk of something going wrong is equal in both instances. That's why I bring up the 3rd safety rule. That gun is not going to go off unless I deliberately pull the trigger, and that remains true during the loading and holstering process.
@@WornDownCrown have you ever heard of a slam fire? Anything mechanical can fail. I applaud your dedication. Keep working and improving, ignore the critics but consider the advice.
The gun is reliable so I wasn’t afraid of that happening. But I absolutely see your point. Bad things can happen. Thanks for the reminder. Now would probably be a good time to go out and buy some snap caps.
Have a great day and stay safe.
Sig hater. Go away.
@@TheAccountant730 triggered much?
You did buy the sig😮 oh no wrong choice, sorry but sig are very sux many people involved gun fired by its self
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Only the p320
Funny. I own countless Sig’s, P320 and P365 variants too. Never had one issue at all. They only fire when the trigger is pulled. Stop believing fake news.
@@BanditApache-nd6lu it’s crazy how after almost a year of owning two SIGs I still haven’t shot myself… it’s almost like the guns are actually reliable