I don't understand how this video keeps saying Perez had the better exit and racing line. Sure Perez had a better exit, but Sainz was ahead of him and in the racing line. Perez had more track to use to his left and Sainz was clearly far enough ahead that there's no way Perez didn't know he was there. Perez simply refused to give the line up and it cost them both precious points.
I don't know what you people are watching but Perez stayed in a straight line it was F/G Sainz that drifted over trying to catch the tow from Charles. Worse than that he then ploughed straight into him after the initial touch..It was beyond stupid...I got no idea how he didn't a penalty for that.
@@theelf152 No - they were both going straight - albeit - on different lines, blame should primarily be on Perez that made a conscious decision to have the collision, where Sainz has blind spots. This is how Perez drives!
Perez fault , not totally along side , behind so He should be allowing Sainz to move, when you drive in traffic on normal roads you predict the movement of cars next to You behind you in front of You and move decelerate accordingly .Perez knows racing line and CHOSE to impede Carlos to move , He would have known Carlos was going to drift a little as Carlos was in front and had the right to racing line but DECIDED to stay going straight , Perez could have just mimicked the move like formation flying lol and all would have been avoided. It is racing and you can't expect Carlos to have stayed against the wall to let a Driver behind determine where He should be when the driver behind has the whole track to move ?! The best would have been to have just said I did not see Him cause of the SUN.
If you are driving in a straight line minding your own business and the guy to the right just moves over on you...Guess What - ITS HIS F/G FAULT. Especially when he has plenty of space in front of him to do so. FFS Sergio did absolutely nothing. He's not obliged to move and especially when he is alongside ..You cannot argue "He was in front" because HE WAS NOT. If he was mostly in front there might be an argument but half a car in a straight line with a whole straight ahead - there is NO argument. Sainz did one of Dumbest things I've ever seen...I cannot believe he did not get a penalty for it.
Sainz was not 'drifting across the track', he was following the normal racing line. Watch LeVkerc's line in front of the incident. And watch the lines that both drivers were taking during the Practice sessions and Qualifying.
@@janmirandam yeah exactly ! it's a given that his goal is to get to Leclerc's racing line or whatever .. problem is someone's alongside you , right ? He 'forced' to take the 'racing line' ... no matter what the scenario may be :D :D :D
The FIA stewards called it about right one driver had limited view of the chasing car and made no sudden moves, the other though making ground pushed a position that was risky and had the better view, Perez is not as impulsive as his team mate but perhaps due to the pressure of his position in the team felt obliged to try to push his luck.
Why did you use so many OLD photos? McLaren #28? Logan Sargeant? Ferrari #38? Adrian Newey in the Red Bull garage? A circuit scene that definitely wasn’t Baku? Come on! You get a big thumbs down from me.
Put it this way... If you look into history I think you find Perez has had a number more avoidable collisions than Sainz. Perez is prone to a rush of blood to the head.
It's a race incident. It's easy to blame one or the other from a different POV. But in a drivers seat visibility is limited. It's not like either driver intentionally drove erratically towards the other. As soon as their tires touched, it was over
Sainz was not 'drifting'. He was following the racing line. Watch LeClerc's path. Watch what drivers were doing during Qualifying. Perez could see Sainz clearly, and Sainz had precedence because of being ahead. I hope that Ferrari can appeal the steward's decision successfully. And no; I don't support Ferrari or either of their drivers.
if you're a ferrari fan, this is a racing incident ... of course :D I'm no racing driver, not even close to it but on face value, why will Checo steer away in that instance ? To give way to the swerving Sainz ? I don't get it . Sainz knew he was there alongside him, he was ahead, why steer to the left at that time .. yeah yeah he was following his 'racing line' .. WHICH WAS BLOCKED !!!!!!! geeezzzzz
If there's any intentionality in the collision it would likely be Checo putting the squeeze onto Carlos. The racing line is the outside of the next turn, which is as far left as you can get. By holding Carlos to the right he tightened the line into the next corner - for both of them. It's so far off the "natural" line - for both of them. In my opinion Checo tried to squeeze from a position that didn't entitle him to determine Carlos's natural line. Jolyon seems to agree also. My first impression was mainly on Carlos, but it's now 80/20 on Checo.
@@sergiosilva83 It was not like Carlos was wiggling... Perez was behind and should adapt to Carlos "move" (as it was bearly any movment). Race incident but mostly Perez fault.
@@sergiosilva83 If you are behind, you ADAPT to the car in front! Imagine your self driving on the road and car in front moves a tiny bit, either you break or move away. Or do you crash in to him??
@@DR-ib2yg not really, there is only one condition where the driver in front has the right of way. When the are entering a turn. Not When they fighting for postion.
Great content. Perez had a better view he is overtaking. To do so it must be done safely. It wasn't. He pinned the Ferrari. Carlos turns away from wall. Collision occurred. Racing incident. They were all in. They were all going for it. That's a 50/50 agreement. Both could of backed out at any time. They went all in. It's always a racing incident. It's funny cause the safety car was in drivers strategy. And when they got it they moaned.
Perez had far better vision he could have played it safe, but took a chance to get the tow that Sainz wanted. Blame is about marketing & advertising (aka PR). Its racing fer gawd's sake.
geez i dont buy your argument that checho should have seen sainz & give way to avoid collision so it meant that sainz is on collision course if you dont give way then we crashed kinda what max employs
Perez is 100 percent to blame. He deliberately held the line because he was definitely going to lose the position. The Ferrari was finding better traction and was in front on the drag race to the next corner. It was Perez's desperation which cost Ferrari and Sainz major points, potential constructors lead over atleast Red Bull and points in drivers championship
I tend to agree. The had view of the Ferrari and decided not to deviate. he never said that he couldn’t see the other car. If he had there is something terribly wrong with his vision so words he saw it but decided to do nothing.
The reason Checo got partly up with him was Carlos fumbled the turn and actually LOST traction. I do agree though that it's nearly all on Checo, he had an acre of room to move into (on the correct line also!) unlike the way Max squeezed Lando at Austria where he ran him out of track. A certain amount of similarity though no two are the same.
@@visionproductionsnz7828 I agree those of us who raced if you see a car near you and it looks like it’s gonna collide with you. You give it room you don’t just hold your ground and drill both of you into the end of the fence if you can avoid it. These two had form during, the weekend with some impeding. I suspect the red mist descended and Perez was not going to back off but he’s not even admitted it to himself.
You don’t have a f/g clue about racing. Perez held his line to the left. It was Sainz who jinked left Very Suddenly and made contact. If you bothered to open your F/g eyes you would have seen that. We all even heard Sainz say “I don’t know what happened” - when the car went left.. There was initial light touch but then it was almost as if something failed on the Ferrari - like the front left upright - which is why he said that. If Ferrari Don’t make a statement about it- then it would be safe to say SAINZ was just covering up and did not want to admit the mistake. I mean what kind of a f/g idiot jumps over like that “attempting to catch the slip stream” of Charles in front when Perez was already sat there. Im definitely NOT A Perez fan- he should not have that seat but he did NOTHINg wrong in that.🤡. I would be shocked and surprised if Sainz doesnt get a grid penalty for Singapore because last I heard Stewards are still reviewing
Most of the people here are clarly influenced by your opinions in the video and they don't really analyze incident video frame by frame. They really don't know the drive and racing rules. Regards fellows.
Yes, the crash was a "Racing Incident," but IMO Perez deserves 60~70% of the blame. Sainz was slowly "drifting" (or just following the racing line) and Sergio had plenty of time to avoid the collision.
As a spanish speaker and as I always say Spanish media shares more info than English midea dose in F1 ..... Carlos is at fualt he didn't know how it happend because he had tunnel vision he completely disregarded Checo even being near him or behind him also understanding that Checo Carlos fernando and colapinto are spanish speakers this guy's will have eachothers back and mitigate bad situations becuase having them in the top of such a sport is something rare
Nobody talking about leclercs defense on checo into the turn and Perez gave him the room because he was there. Perez could have turned in and leclerc would have crashed perez But if checo wants to hold his line he’s at fault haha haters
I don't understand how this video keeps saying Perez had the better exit and racing line. Sure Perez had a better exit, but Sainz was ahead of him and in the racing line. Perez had more track to use to his left and Sainz was clearly far enough ahead that there's no way Perez didn't know he was there. Perez simply refused to give the line up and it cost them both precious points.
Why would he give up his position on a straight line?!
I don't know what you people are watching but Perez stayed in a straight line it was F/G Sainz that drifted over trying to catch the tow from Charles. Worse than that he then ploughed straight into him after the initial touch..It was beyond stupid...I got no idea how he didn't a penalty for that.
@@theelf152 No - they were both going straight - albeit - on different lines, blame should primarily be on Perez that made a conscious decision to have the collision, where Sainz has blind spots.
This is how Perez drives!
Red bull relies on other drivers to spot them. Madness.
🤡
Nobody "spot themselves" do they genius. Didn't Sainz spot Sergio?...I think he decided to play dodgems for the sake of Charles.
Perez fault , not totally along side , behind so He should be allowing Sainz to move, when you drive in traffic on normal roads you predict the movement of cars next to You behind you in front of You and move decelerate accordingly .Perez knows racing line and CHOSE to impede Carlos to move , He would have known Carlos was going to drift a little as Carlos was in front and had the right to racing line but DECIDED to stay going straight , Perez could have just mimicked the move like formation flying lol and all would have been avoided. It is racing and you can't expect Carlos to have stayed against the wall to let a Driver behind determine where He should be when the driver behind has the whole track to move ?! The best would have been to have just said I did not see Him cause of the SUN.
no
It's on a straight not a bend (corner)
The walls along the straight aren't parallel to the street lines. Carlos had to slightly move left
If you are driving in a straight line minding your own business and the guy to the right just moves over on you...Guess What - ITS HIS F/G FAULT. Especially when he has plenty of space in front of him to do so.
FFS Sergio did absolutely nothing. He's not obliged to move and especially when he is alongside ..You cannot argue "He was in front" because HE WAS NOT. If he was mostly in front there might be an argument but half a car in a straight line with a whole straight ahead - there is NO argument. Sainz did one of Dumbest things I've ever seen...I cannot believe he did not get a penalty for it.
Sainz was not 'drifting across the track', he was following the normal racing line. Watch LeVkerc's line in front of the incident. And watch the lines that both drivers were taking during the Practice sessions and Qualifying.
if the normal racing line is blocked..... u need to maintaing position.... Sainz fault 100%
@@janmirandam yeah exactly ! it's a given that his goal is to get to Leclerc's racing line or whatever .. problem is someone's alongside you , right ? He 'forced' to take the 'racing line' ... no matter what the scenario may be :D :D :D
It’s a race incident, the only two drivers who know what they know, in hundreds of a second, any other opinion is due to the luxury of hindsight.
The FIA stewards called it about right one driver had limited view of the chasing car and made no sudden moves, the other though making ground pushed a position that was risky and had the better view, Perez is not as impulsive as his team mate but perhaps due to the pressure of his position in the team felt obliged to try to push his luck.
Perez fault because he was behind
Perez held his line, sainz turned on him
Normal racing line does not apply when there is a car there.
lol ty very much
Why did you use so many OLD photos? McLaren #28? Logan Sargeant? Ferrari #38? Adrian Newey in the Red Bull garage? A circuit scene that definitely wasn’t Baku? Come on! You get a big thumbs down from me.
Put it this way... If you look into history I think you find Perez has had a number more avoidable collisions than Sainz. Perez is prone to a rush of blood to the head.
It's a race incident. It's easy to blame one or the other from a different POV. But in a drivers seat visibility is limited. It's not like either driver intentionally drove erratically towards the other. As soon as their tires touched, it was over
Couldn't agree more
Especially if you are in a Red Bull and another car is in front of you, Merc.Ferarri or any other manufacturer.
Bro have you seen the crash, if you're telling me he can't see the wheels. He should NOT in be in the car
Perez had full visibility, and is 100% the one that should give way there.
Sainz was not 'drifting'. He was following the racing line. Watch LeClerc's path. Watch what drivers were doing during Qualifying. Perez could see Sainz clearly, and Sainz had precedence because of being ahead. I hope that Ferrari can appeal the steward's decision successfully. And no; I don't support Ferrari or either of their drivers.
Unfortunately there's nothing can be gained in appealing even if an appeal was permitted.
More on Perez. Sainz was ahead and so was entitled to the racing line. SP was a bit aggressive in filling a fast closing opening.
You said it Checo didn't react...think he's destroyed more cars than Carlos
if you're a ferrari fan, this is a racing incident ... of course :D I'm no racing driver, not even close to it but on face value, why will Checo steer away in that instance ? To give way to the swerving Sainz ? I don't get it . Sainz knew he was there alongside him, he was ahead, why steer to the left at that time .. yeah yeah he was following his 'racing line' .. WHICH WAS BLOCKED !!!!!!! geeezzzzz
I thought the rules were the car in front was entitled to take the racing line as long as you leave a cars width?
the driver ahead is allowed to follow the racing line. The PASSING driver is required to make the pass safely
If there's any intentionality in the collision it would likely be Checo putting the squeeze onto Carlos. The racing line is the outside of the next turn, which is as far left as you can get. By holding Carlos to the right he tightened the line into the next corner - for both of them. It's so far off the "natural" line - for both of them. In my opinion Checo tried to squeeze from a position that didn't entitle him to determine Carlos's natural line. Jolyon seems to agree also. My first impression was mainly on Carlos, but it's now 80/20 on Checo.
Yeah, that’s called racing
Hungary wasn't a real win for Piastri. Baku absolutely was
Sorry but Horner is wrong. Carlos was on the racing line.. and Sergio had PLENTY of room to give Carlos space.
Give room on a straight line?! U kidding right?!
@@sergiosilva83 It was not like Carlos was wiggling...
Perez was behind and should adapt to Carlos "move" (as it was bearly any movment).
Race incident but mostly Perez fault.
@@DR-ib2yg in a straight line u race, u don’t adapt or give racing line, besides that Carlos missed the apex and was drifting, replay the scene again
@@sergiosilva83 If you are behind, you ADAPT to the car in front!
Imagine your self driving on the road and car in front moves a tiny bit, either you break or move away. Or do you crash in to him??
@@DR-ib2yg not really, there is only one condition where the driver in front has the right of way.
When the are entering a turn.
Not When they fighting for postion.
It’s almost as if the FIA have a bias to benefiting RB at any opportunity. What ever could it be?
What was considered "Disgracefull!"? A racing incident that added to the sport's entertainment level?
this channel seems to blame checo for everything, even accidents he isnt involved in.
Perez was following too close .
Great content. Perez had a better view he is overtaking. To do so it must be done safely. It wasn't. He pinned the Ferrari. Carlos turns away from wall. Collision occurred. Racing incident. They were all in. They were all going for it. That's a 50/50 agreement. Both could of backed out at any time. They went all in. It's always a racing incident. It's funny cause the safety car was in drivers strategy. And when they got it they moaned.
I don't think 🤔 chanradook ever win a gran prix, correct if I'm wrong
But he did race F1 which is more than any of us. (He's wrong though)
Newey is counting the minutes.
Ferrari needs to focus more on fixing the garbage they are selling and voiding warranties for the simple fact they know they have a garbage product.
It's Perez fault. As he's behind, so he must see him 100%.
Perez had far better vision he could have played it safe, but took a chance to get the tow that Sainz wanted. Blame is about marketing & advertising (aka PR). Its racing fer gawd's sake.
Perez got torpedoes by Kmag and now this incident with Carlos. These are going to be massive repair bills.
geez i dont buy your argument that checho should have seen sainz & give way to avoid collision so it meant that sainz is on collision course if you dont give way then we crashed kinda what max employs
Perez is 100 percent to blame. He deliberately held the line because he was definitely going to lose the position. The Ferrari was finding better traction and was in front on the drag race to the next corner. It was Perez's desperation which cost Ferrari and Sainz major points, potential constructors lead over atleast Red Bull and points in drivers championship
I tend to agree. The had view of the Ferrari and decided not to deviate. he never said that he couldn’t see the other car. If he had there is something terribly wrong with his vision so words he saw it but decided to do nothing.
The reason Checo got partly up with him was Carlos fumbled the turn and actually LOST traction. I do agree though that it's nearly all on Checo, he had an acre of room to move into (on the correct line also!) unlike the way Max squeezed Lando at Austria where he ran him out of track. A certain amount of similarity though no two are the same.
@@visionproductionsnz7828 I agree those of us who raced if you see a car near you and it looks like it’s gonna collide with you. You give it room you don’t just hold your ground and drill both of you into the end of the fence if you can avoid it. These two had form during, the weekend with some impeding. I suspect the red mist descended and Perez was not going to back off but he’s not even admitted it to himself.
Totally agree
Perez is an absolute idiot, after 14 years he still doesn’t know how to overtake.
You don’t have a f/g clue about racing. Perez held his line to the left. It was Sainz who jinked left Very Suddenly and made contact. If you bothered to open your F/g eyes you would have seen that. We all even heard Sainz say “I don’t know what happened” - when the car went left.. There was initial light touch but then it was almost as if something failed on the Ferrari - like the front left upright - which is why he said that. If Ferrari Don’t make a statement about it- then it would be safe to say SAINZ was just covering up and did not want to admit the mistake. I mean what kind of a f/g idiot jumps over like that “attempting to catch the slip stream” of Charles in front when Perez was already sat there. Im definitely NOT A Perez fan- he should not have that seat but he did NOTHINg wrong in that.🤡. I would be shocked and surprised if Sainz doesnt get a grid penalty for Singapore because last I heard Stewards are still reviewing
Perez definitely learning from crashdapen, move or we will have contact, your move punk 🤣😂🙈
Like Sainz, but think this was a bit his mistake.
End of the day, Perez had half the track to move over to. Simple as that.
Why would he move over on a straight?
Sainz turned to him fgs
@@sergiosilva83 because the wall on the right was narrowing lol
Yeah and some spoiler on the Mcl.
Sergio Verstappen? 😂
Most of the people here are clarly influenced by your opinions in the video and they don't really analyze incident video frame by frame. They really don't know the drive and racing rules. Regards fellows.
Carlos had enough space and he did push Checo
driver behind is responsible for safe pass... Carlos was ahead and was entitled to the racing line.. which he was taking
Blocked.
So now there are dts youtubers as well😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Ferrari can be seen swerving to the left in a deliberate move
Perez at fault for trying to regain second place, Perez at fault for not trying hard enough, Perez you can’t win - no pun intended.
Yes, the crash was a "Racing Incident," but IMO Perez deserves 60~70% of the blame. Sainz was slowly "drifting" (or just following the racing line) and Sergio had plenty of time to avoid the collision.
Sainz completely lost the apex, he recognized he was aware of perez, "my normal line?" He missed the apex!
That was not Colapinto... too much bla bla bla and clickbait mate.
New constructors leader in forever? How long have you been watching F1. What was Mercedes then infinity?
Easy racing incident
Red bull Perez 200 percent blame
As a spanish speaker and as I always say Spanish media shares more info than English midea dose in F1 .....
Carlos is at fualt he didn't know how it happend because he had tunnel vision he completely disregarded Checo even being near him or behind him also understanding that Checo Carlos fernando and colapinto are spanish speakers this guy's will have eachothers back and mitigate bad situations becuase having them in the top of such a sport is something rare
dude, the driver in front is allowed the racing line. Checo needed to move as well.. he had plenty of room to give Carlos the racing line.
He had tunnel vision because he was driving a rocket ship, fired his nitrous and checo was long gone lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@TedSchoenlingno it is not on a straight, that’s called raging, there’s no racing line if a car is on the way fgs
49% Checko`s Fault and 51% Sainz fault for ever so slightly drifting left into Checo :)
Nobody talking about leclercs defense on checo into the turn and Perez gave him the room because he was there. Perez could have turned in and leclerc would have crashed perez
But if checo wants to hold his line he’s at fault haha haters
Carlos