Remember to probe up and BC. You don't want to waste supply on SCVs. Also in case you really want to mine with SCV, have the toss build assimilators for you, it's 21 seconds build time and $75, but you don't need to waste mining time to build it.
I loved this episode. I was thinking that BCs + Tempests will be crazy, cyclons and vikings would be attacked by the temptests and then you can use the BCs to Yamato everything. Also, what about even adding a zerg player that you can use to drone up quicly and for economy. Then focus on production with the T and P. Idk, just throwing some ideas out there.
I would like to see a 1v2 with you having Terran/Zerg where you rush medivac/queen drops. I bet you could get them out super fast, and spamming queens would protect against early aggression. A medivac can hold 4 queens O_O. I also can't help but wonder if it would be viable to modify your Thor drop build to drop ultras instead. It would be like a thor, except the medivac is healing it lol. Seems like it would be hilarious.
I would love to see post conversations in some of this where you are chatting about who you are and what you do. I can't imagine how many players have had the joy of playing you and not even knowing it.
Maybe rush 4 thors with 4 medivacs and do a super fast 4 thor drop. Another idea is mass oracles, but with even more-acles. Two more ideas I have is mass blink DTs, or a tempest or immortal allin, where you use shield batteries and SCVs to heal the units.
If you do more of this multi-race challenge, you should bring an scv to repair your robo things (looking at that colossus) from protoss. was one of my fav parts of playing terran/protoss with my old freinds, repairing their army. And with batteries now, scv pull under battery, omega giga never die protoss lol
Loving these team game videos :) would be fun if you had 2 Terrans and made like Tanks and Hellbats with one of them and Viking Raven with the other :) 2x maxed out armies of those units must be pretty damn strong:)
Love the videos, and thanks for showing losses. I’m just as interested or more interested in amazing players losing and learning than commentating over a win ❤️
is dropping mules on someone bad etiquette? I never knew. I mule ppl all the time for damage distraction, tank damage retargeting, high ground vision, etcetera
Yeah, if you're way ahead and you dump mules on the other player it's considered BM. 30:07 Another BM you can do in the same vein is called (I believe) a sun scan. This is where you use all of your scans at once in the same spot. This and the manner mule are both essentially saying the same thing "I don't need this extra CC energy to kick your ass". I don't know if the opponent was BMing with that scan or if he mistakenly double scanned as a misclick. 5:41 Dropping a mule on a widow mine seems like it could be a strategically smart play in the right circumstances. I would say dropping all your mules into your opponent's main when you've clearly won is rude. Dropping mules in unorthodox ways for strategical reasons like you described is fine. I've seen a marine/medivac drop where a mule was used to block probes trying to run away. I think stuff like that is smart, not rude
It's bad etiquette because 99.9% of the time it's a very terrible play, mules are important for your economy, scan for highground vision is a million times better and as they can't attack enemy units will never attack them if any of your units are near, so damage distraction isn't a thing.
In that last game, you were up against terrans that had already finished mining out 8 bases (and working on the next couple), compared to your 6 bases. You were lost just based on more stuff beats less stuff.
My brother and I got placed into Masters 2 in 2 v 2 for some reason... I was at my peak about 4.7k MMR Zerg and my brother has never gotten out of bronze, so after 5 placement matches we ended up masters 2.... The 2 v 2 ladder is messed up LMAO I hope we face Marc one day :D
1v2 is much easier than 2v2 in my experience. You eco on one player and mass units on the other; you save a lot of money on upgrades and tech without losing anything.
I think If you Go for zerg and terran, and only build units in terran and use zerg for economy, you can get triple bcs with 1-1 upgrades, would bê really broken
gj as always. i managed to watch the whole episode before like and comment for once. game one was too cool. it took everything i had to not comment just then and there. i guess you needed one more hand or at least a couple of more fingers maybe? lol. but still, i think with enough penguins you could solo them or maybe with phoenix lift cyclones or just viking in mineral line them? no idea really. not even a good armchair commentator. just sad. lol. luv your channel
Your doing way to much too much and not enough all at the same time.... I do this stuff on a daily when I 🪜🪜... Use protoss as your "economic race" get three bases from the start with toss and always use chrono..... you will reach 51 workers in around 3 min mark give Or take.. Then in-between make your prime army from Terran or whatever it is you prefer Then your sitting on 4 base with massive eco too pump.... What I do is play 2 protoss and +1 charglot flood off 4 or 5 base total and hit by 4.30 with 8 -10 gates and one toss building occasional defensive units.
Also too note a big part of that strategy is keeping multiple zealot squads alive and distracting... remember you only need 3 to wreck a whole mineral line... so send in four and let the other spread put 1 or 3 to a building further splitting them up the more you split his army and at 100 minerals a pop on 5 base income..... he can't be everywhere all the time
I love how after the bm mules - you just type SORRY - accidentally being even more bm.
lol yeah, his best option was saying nothing... it's like he was apologising for kicking their ass.
Activates a mine with a Mule. Apologises for it anyways, good guy Thermy
Remember to probe up and BC. You don't want to waste supply on SCVs. Also in case you really want to mine with SCV, have the toss build assimilators for you, it's 21 seconds build time and $75, but you don't need to waste mining time to build it.
smart man
I loved this episode. I was thinking that BCs + Tempests will be crazy, cyclons and vikings would be attacked by the temptests and then you can use the BCs to Yamato everything.
Also, what about even adding a zerg player that you can use to drone up quicly and for economy. Then focus on production with the T and P. Idk, just throwing some ideas out there.
I would like to see a 1v2 with you having Terran/Zerg where you rush medivac/queen drops. I bet you could get them out super fast, and spamming queens would protect against early aggression. A medivac can hold 4 queens O_O.
I also can't help but wonder if it would be viable to modify your Thor drop build to drop ultras instead. It would be like a thor, except the medivac is healing it lol. Seems like it would be hilarious.
I dont think the two races can pick up the other race, like I am 90 percent sure the terran can't pick up zerg u its
I would love to see post conversations in some of this where you are chatting about who you are and what you do. I can't imagine how many players have had the joy of playing you and not even knowing it.
You played very well!
IMBA Terran in 1x1 and now in 1x2! ;)
Next step 1x3? xD
Lets goooo :D
Maybe rush 4 thors with 4 medivacs and do a super fast 4 thor drop.
Another idea is mass oracles, but with even more-acles.
Two more ideas I have is mass blink DTs, or a tempest or immortal allin, where you use shield batteries and SCVs to heal the units.
This is what the next evolution of SC2 should be! Solo 2v2 tournaments!!
If you do more of this multi-race challenge, you should bring an scv to repair your robo things (looking at that colossus) from protoss. was one of my fav parts of playing terran/protoss with my old freinds, repairing their army. And with batteries now, scv pull under battery, omega giga never die protoss lol
Loving these team game videos :) would be fun if you had 2 Terrans and made like Tanks and Hellbats with one of them and Viking Raven with the other :) 2x maxed out armies of those units must be pretty damn strong:)
Love the videos, and thanks for showing losses. I’m just as interested or more interested in amazing players losing and learning than commentating over a win ❤️
As always it was fun to watch .
"I just muled myself" lol
Proxy zealot marauder could sync up nice. With the marauder shell thing.
wp! very like reaper+photones rush! Hello from Ukraine!
I love the solo xvx cheese games.
Ah yes classic PROtoss gameplay - having all your nexuses with full energy. Very precise 😏
at least he's using his cc energy to bm XD
thanks for the video :)
Storm w/ your BCS could have been a great way to push back cyclones/Vikings.
wow! what a beast! the first game was something
should use your Terran to make supply depot wall for your Toss base! lol the dream
is dropping mules on someone bad etiquette? I never knew. I mule ppl all the time for damage distraction, tank damage retargeting, high ground vision, etcetera
Yeah, if you're way ahead and you dump mules on the other player it's considered BM. 30:07 Another BM you can do in the same vein is called (I believe) a sun scan. This is where you use all of your scans at once in the same spot. This and the manner mule are both essentially saying the same thing "I don't need this extra CC energy to kick your ass". I don't know if the opponent was BMing with that scan or if he mistakenly double scanned as a misclick.
5:41 Dropping a mule on a widow mine seems like it could be a strategically smart play in the right circumstances.
I would say dropping all your mules into your opponent's main when you've clearly won is rude. Dropping mules in unorthodox ways for strategical reasons like you described is fine. I've seen a marine/medivac drop where a mule was used to block probes trying to run away. I think stuff like that is smart, not rude
Yeah, they're called "Manner Mules". Sometimes zergs bring drones and build "Manner Hatcheries" in the opponents base during a push too.
It's bad etiquette because 99.9% of the time it's a very terrible play, mules are important for your economy, scan for highground vision is a million times better and as they can't attack enemy units will never attack them if any of your units are near, so damage distraction isn't a thing.
Subbed for more dank cheese!
Ghost DT combo. Ghost to emp command centers and snipe detection.
Thanks!
The buttons on the top right corner should have shown you the other races stats/supply, etc.
Underrated
i love it here
How you talk about the stress mixed with using the wrong hotkeys that comes with playing as two players I feel as playing with one :
That was some dank cannon reaper cheese
When I see my ally go cannon rush I go 3-rax reaper to protect their probes, can’t wait to see how uThermal does it
BratOk is still kinda competitive in some of the tournaments, though^^
No Great idear baut just supporting ❤
great games
This is what I imagine would happen if you played with your toes
Can you do 2 base muta cheese with 8 gas from 4 bases?
dankies bratOk
Lost building cannon?
In that last game, you were up against terrans that had already finished mining out 8 bases (and working on the next couple), compared to your 6 bases. You were lost just based on more stuff beats less stuff.
Imagine giving gold league vibe type of advice to a pro.
Not really, if thermo had maxed out marine tank medivac army he would roll over them but they would've of course made different units then.
Marc where’s Diego in your 2v2 challenge?
My brother and I got placed into Masters 2 in 2 v 2 for some reason... I was at my peak about 4.7k MMR Zerg and my brother has never gotten out of bronze, so after 5 placement matches we ended up masters 2.... The 2 v 2 ladder is messed up LMAO I hope we face Marc one day :D
Yep. I am terrible and got into masters 2 v 2 and masters 1 v 1. Just low population i think.
Next time, mass BC with the terran, and then mass charge zealot and void ray (or Stalker) with the protoss to counter the cyclone/viking
I've played 1v2 before so I know what it's like but watching you play does feel like it should be a lot easier
1v2 is much easier than 2v2 in my experience. You eco on one player and mass units on the other; you save a lot of money on upgrades and tech without losing anything.
Grid hot keys would make this so much easier
Perhaps if you pick toss while your ally picks terran it would be better, that way the 'W' hotkey for your warpgates will work.
why does no one use grid hotkey layout?
I switched to grid this year! Wish I had done it sooner and I'm surprised it wasn't thought of as the default sooner.
Plenty of pros do.
You lost a probe in your 2nd match when you got the 1st reaper out.
I think If you Go for zerg and terran, and only build units in terran and use zerg for economy, you can get triple bcs with 1-1 upgrades, would bê really broken
gj as always. i managed to watch the whole episode before like and comment for once. game one was too cool. it took everything i had to not comment just then and there. i guess you needed one more hand or at least a couple of more fingers maybe? lol. but still, i think with enough penguins you could solo them or maybe with phoenix lift cyclones or just viking in mineral line them? no idea really. not even a good armchair commentator. just sad. lol. luv your channel
its called dolo mate (duo solo)
Next u need to play 3v3 with zerg also XD
Do chargelots with medivacs
Im sad you cant just alt+hotkey when controlling multiple races
*When he macros and micros 2 races better than I can macro 1 with no army micro* ;_;
Your doing way to much too much and not enough all at the same time....
I do this stuff on a daily when I 🪜🪜...
Use protoss as your "economic race" get three bases from the start with toss and always use chrono..... you will reach 51 workers in around 3 min mark give Or take..
Then in-between make your prime army from Terran or whatever it is you prefer
Then your sitting on 4 base with massive eco too pump....
What I do is play 2 protoss and
+1 charglot flood off 4 or 5 base total and hit by 4.30 with 8 -10 gates and one toss building occasional defensive units.
Also too note a big part of that strategy is keeping multiple zealot squads alive and distracting... remember you only need 3 to wreck a whole mineral line... so send in four and let the other spread put 1 or 3 to a building further splitting them up the more you split his army and at 100 minerals a pop on 5 base income..... he can't be everywhere all the time
+1 charglots need nerfed so don't be afraid of the air in smaller numbers
Also note just 1 gas taken early from the start from toss with 3 workers will get you +1 , charge, and warp gate. before at the correct timing
hes not trying to climb ladder lol, hes just trolling. Do you know who you're trying to backseat?
@@Sapreme hey princess this is a reference to a cheese build I play... don't comment if you not adequate to understand or read the text ....