Vancouver looks to tackle housing crisis by building around SkyTrain stations
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- The City of Vancouver is looking at a series of housing policies to tackle the housing crisis, which includes streamlining the city’s building code, allowing for mid-rise buildings in village centres, and as Justin McElroy reports, potentially constructing residential towers around SkyTrain stations that have never had them.
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There's a lot of REALLY nice golf courses around Vancouver that would be PERFECT for homeless encampments.
In other words, mayor has no real plan on fixing housing so he puts out fluffs like building condos around skytrain...
Hows that gonna help when retail investors buy up more than half of the suites at pre sale?
A real plan is to prioritize first time home buyers. Retail investors shouldnt be allowed to buy up rental properties and rent out suites potentially couldve been bought by first time home buyers
My only concern is suite size and if rental units would be included. Here in New West the apartments/condos built at New West Station are tiny. I remember reading an interview with the developer and he said that they didn't expect people to actually live in the suites. Mostly just sleep there. They were targeting people with money who are out all the time, dining, clubbing, etc. They don't expect anyone to actually entertain guests, or cook meals. What a flipping joke.
While I don't think it's great, I think it's better than nothing. I think a minimum of 400 sqft is fine.
Adding more density and walkable neighbourhoods is a good thing. People who already own housing cannot and should not selfishly block others from building and owning.
whoa whoa man cool it with the sinophobia
High density housing where families have no choice but to live in a box; and have to use a bus to get around is deplorable.
You’re going to separate society into those who have houses, electric cars with kids you can drive to hockey practice; and this other group that Hass to live in a shoebox and take the stinking bus to go to work. Kids get nothing
@@Ont785you do realize we don't live in 1950s Chicago anymore? Urban design and planning has come a long way since then. There are many examples of high density neighbourhoods all over the world where people enjoy a very high quality of life, arguably much higher than people living in the burbs.
Its not always black and white. There are many ways to do it right.
Its not selfish to make every effort to protect your way of life and keep whats yours😉
@@bustedford that's literally the definition of being selfish haha. Thinking only of yourself
Those nimbys don't want to know how wasteful it is to build new infrastructure for low density zones compared to upgrading the existing one
And now I thought they DIDN'T want to do that because of the resulting crime problems.
The issue with affordability is not necessarily lack of housing, it is the investors who scoop up whatever becomes available. If you really want to fix housing, create a multi-tiered tax system based on how many properties a company/individual owns. Put 100% tax on any profit for flipped properties within 5 years. Put hefty penalties for realtors and brokers who fake documents, ban investors who fake documents. This should fix it
Taxation does nothing for the rich, it just means that the additional cost will be off-loaded to the customer, in this case the renter.
You should know by now that it's Blackrock and other such ginormous corporations that are buying most of the new property in canada and are circle jerking with all politicians (left-wing, right-wing, up, down, you name it!).
They are also the drivers of additional taxation, because it means more and more locals cannot afford to buy and have to rent instead. (you will own nothing and you will be happy)
Additionally, having a million new immigrants every year flock to Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal and Calgary means that supporting existing infrstructure will cost more, and thus the vicious cycle continues and more and more canadians can't afford buying their homes.
I believe this is already done to done extent but many people have found a way to cheat the system. If you're a family of four you technically have 4 first time home owners even though all of you live under the same roof.
They only way to control the cost of housing is to completely socialize it and have everyone paying a relatively low amount of rent.
@@doctorspook4414 No, it does not necessarily mean that, especially in the scenarios listed. This is a common fallacious argument lazy people apply to all things tax-related, when taxation is actually far more nuanced than this.
Also, as much as it fits your conspiracy theories, no, real estate investors and rich people would not want, nor benefit from higher tax rates on their additional properties 😂. The market is already almost perfectly designed for them to maximize profits as it is.
I think people who do not currently own a home should get first dibs on purchasing a property in these areas.
I have a 6500 sqft lot 800 metres within 29th station will this increase the assessment value?
The west coast express is the most under utilized transit system and it could be a gold mine for the city. More stations could added and surrounding land could be leased to developers to build mixed use developments all along the route of the west coast express. Canada is the only country in the G7 without a high speed rail system. This is exactly what we need to increase housing supply with a transit system that stretches from the waterfront to Mission. Prioritize people over freight like in the USA and put the rail system to better use. Rush hour traffic getting in and out of Vancouver is horrendous.
Maybe Canada should stop importing people to keep housing prices high and developers rich.
It won’t be affordable anyway.
Nope. Because there are people willing to pay higher prices.
@@shauncameron8390 yep
Building homes near train stations is smart and other major cities like Tokyo have had immense success with this model (the transit companies there are even in the real estate business to create a profitable feedback loop) but there's one missing piece to consider. People generally dislike Translink. The SkyTrain is cramped, slow, dirty, smelly and doesn't always feel safe. Especially the Expo line.
Vancouver needs REAL trains. Frequently cleaned, large, 12-car trains with open gangways pushing 90-100kph like those seen in Tokyo and other major cities.
I notice in US & Canada light rails or new train systems use them as their metro, subway & commuter rail. It’s slow down the commuter
People will also find whatever to complain about and when Translink offers public meetings those that complained don't show up. The skytrain like the Expo Line is safe in the day but can be sketchy at night.
What do you mean "real trains?" The skytrain is real. They already increased by adding extra cars. Also we shouldn't have to compare our skytrain systems around the world, there's just no way for it to happen.
@@saradostal3076 I can only speak for myself. I live in Dallas and our system way worst. Our headway is literally 20 mins in regular hours. 15 mins during rush hour. You get out of those stations, there’s giant parking lots and only some areas are in low density. I complained to DART about their obsession with creating long extensive rail but placed nowhere near dense areas in most stations.
In regards to the prior comment. I have certainty that the Skytrain is 100 times better than DART. However, I just hope they build an Express/commuter rail that skips stations from urban rail and travels outside the city limits. Don’t do the mistake our rails in US do. Our light rails are commuter, street cars, metro & subways all in one. It becomes inefficient. They should like Stockholm, San Francisco & other non US cities. A metro line & a separate commuter rail.
@@saradostal3076 A real train system is one with both local and express trains. Take the JR Sobu-Kaisoku Line in Greater Tokyo for instance. The trains have 12 large cars, all with open gangways for speedy onboarding and disembarking except two cars in the middle which are double-deckers with front-facing seats, and the express train travels ~90-100kph. The trains are almost always on time and don't let the weather impact their schedules. Lastly, the fare system is accountable. You pay ~130 yen for the first station, and 10-20 yen for each additional station traveled. Suica cards (the Japanese equivalent of the Compass Card) were introduced in 2001 and the sensors pick it up even at a distance of 4-5cm and slap open the gate paddles instantly. When you occasionally have issues with your card it's no problem because each and every station has a stationmaster and other staff to help you reset it for you.
The Expo Line is a toy train system by comparison. It tops out at what... 50kph?, stopping at each and every station, making those screechy wheel noises the whole way. The seating configuration is a mish-mash to say the least and rather tight. I don't even know what the fares are now but I know they're not cheap nor accountable. You pay by zone so someone traveling from Joyce to Waterfront pays less than someone going from Joyce to Patterson. The Compass Card came out very late and is, well... quirky. I always had to press it directly onto the sensor for a few seconds and the gate opens slower than I can walk into it. I even once had my monthly card rejected for no reason and there was no help in sight. I tried forcing my way through the gates to exit but they're too stiff. I wanted to call for help but their support phone in the station was out of order on that day too. I ended up having to charge my card just enough to allow me out so I could then go wait in line for 15 minutes at their Stadium/Chinatown support office, just to repair the card and get a refund.
You're right about a decent train system being unlikely to come to Vancouver. I gave up on public transit in Vancouver a few years ago but, when I was a rider, Translink couldn't even figure out how to put arrow decals on station staircases to avoid collisions between people. If they can't get the easy stuff right how can they be trusted to solve the big ticket items like world-class transit?
Now you come up with such a solution?! Building around transit is the most sustainable way of housing.
The west coast express is the most under utilized transit system and it could be a gold mine for the city. More stations could added and surrounding land could be leased to developers to build mixed use developments all along the route of the west coast express. Canada is the only country in the G7 without a high speed rail system. This is exactly what we need to increase housing supply with a transit system that stretches from the waterfront to Mission. Prioritize people over freight like in the USA and put the rail system to better use. Rush hour traffic getting in and out of Vancouver is horrendous.
They should build density around the Millenium Line stations. I was shocked how uncrowded the trains were.
how about making building permits reasonable to get and cutting away all the useless red tape builders have to wade through to get anything done... give more power back to the landlords. many people want to rent out units but are afraid to do so because they might get stuck with a deadbeat renter and have to go through considerable time frustration and expense to get them evicted.
in the push to stop slumlords you have scared regular people away. streamline the tenancy act and get more mediators who look at the situation fairly and not just assume the landlord is the problem and not the junkie living in his basement rent free.
If Ken Sim hadn’t said the anticipated completion time of his plan in the press conference, he and his team had just expressed their wish.
Mum ,Dad I want to live 20 stories high in a condo , great visions for young people
as someone who lives 20 stories high in a condo, I'm getting a kick out of your weird take on the world
@@daveydudely9954 if the entire earth became a city like Courasant in Star Wars I would die lol.
No wonder the purposed construction around Broadway station is stalled..the information supplied by the city was going to destroy blocks of market and sometimes below market rental homes displacing untold amount of people.
So just rack em and stack em even more
Yeah, seven stories at King Edward is such a shame! It should have been no less than 100!!!!!
Meanwhile on the other coast of Canada, a big single floor strip mall is being renovated to have 5 floors of rental units built on top of it. Still a strip mall but at least slightly less wasteful.
Look at foreign investors and limit them scooping up all the property. Or stop foreign investment completely. Then stop Trudeau's 1 million per year immigration numbers when there is zero infrastructure or money to support it.
As someone who lives in a fairly small rural area in western Quebec, about 1hr west of Ottawa (maybe 4000 population) I can tell you that the thing foreign investors do in large cities is something domestic investors do to smaller cities/townships. It's happened rather frequently in the last 10-15 years that people with zero family ties, zero ties of any kind to our town (folks from Ottawa, Montreal, etc..) have bought houses and rental properties, given then the basic "house flipper" treatment (if you got it from Wish) and then turn around and try to sell or rent the places at significantly higher rates than is reasonable or even remotely comparable to anywhere else.
A recent and idiotic example, some city folks bought what used to be a bar/hotel and renovated it to make 1 bedroom apartments out of (the hotel part already had rooms, but they doubled them up to make the apartments, max like 450sq feet). Long story short, they're charging 1100-1200$ a month rent.....Prior to that I genuinely had never heard of anyone with a rent higher than 950$, and that was for a 3 bedroom house with a small front yard and back yard patio.... My own apartment is something like 700 sq feet and I'm paying 500$ at the moment. Point I'm getting at, the "foreign investor" problem is a thing, but it's definitely not the only similar issue happening.
@Astraeus.. wow. I didn't realize that was such a contributing factor, but I understand what you are saying. It is truly insane what is happening. I hope you are able to stay where you are with a reasonable rent. It is becoming impossible for people to find and afford housing. 😕
how will building OVERPRICED housing help anyone????
Do you even know the cost of construction? Only the government can afford to build at a loss
How is housing overpriced when developers have to pay a fortune just to get land and permit to build?
Not just any housing. Affordable housing!
Not in the midst of high land values, bureaucracy, demand and building costs.
It is loud and clear. Canadians don't want density but urban sprawl and space. Let's losen up regulation and build build and build.
That's their big discovery? What a bunch of sad and pathetic "leaders" we have in Canada.
not as bad as the 'commenters' though
He is very right we need to build more housing around skytrain stations that should be the way to go. It costs money but worth it in long run especially for young generations.
If you let translink control the property around the station (like MTR in Hong Kong) it’s very profitable and no need to worry about the money.
You can thank Pierre Poilievre for that idea. He was the one who came up with it. This guy deserves no credit for it.
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Idea is just a talk. I think Sim has a plan that is not only build high rise around sky train . He also has the idea to set up some small retails and corner stores around residential communities that make more life in the city . I need to see the action, not talking. A lot if leaders are talking good but does not mean doing well when they are actually in power.
@@ansel4052 good joke
@@saltymonkey8874 The term "transit-oriented development" was actually coined in the 90's by Peter Calthorpe.
THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE 30 YEARS AGO! Good grief Vancouver why are you so behind in upzoing? It's utterly ridiculous and a MASSIVE FAILURE. Stop cowering to weathly landowners.
And it won't be done for the next 30 years either.
How about building across the city, not just in the little pockets around our increasingly overloaded transit system?
The west coast express is the most under utilized transit system and it could be a gold mine for the city. More stations could added and surrounding land could be leased to developers to build mixed use developments all along the route of the west coast express. Canada is the only country in the G7 without a high speed rail system. This is exactly what we need to increase housing supply with a transit system that stretches from the waterfront to Mission. Prioritize people over freight like in the USA and put the rail system to better use. Rush hour traffic getting in and out of Vancouver is horrendous.
Canadian Politicians are so good talented people to have make Canadian History very important and interesting
It’s going to be a drop in the bucket. Most of the stations are already doing this and beyond. Towers are going up everywhere. There’s not enough people to feed the workforce to drive supply.
Great, more $700,000 condos
So is this the mayor responsible for all the drug over doses and homelessness?
Remember when Seattle AND Toronto real estate prices skyrocketed when B.C. introduced the Foreign Buyer Tax?
Vancouverites: High-rise towers? NO! they will block my view of the mountains! over my dead body!😡
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In downtown Toronto you can't even see the sun because of all the condos lol.
Congratulations on building more Infrastructure In Canadian Provinces And Territories and other Municipalities across Canada 🇨🇦
Rent caps are the only thing that could help the lower class. Rezoning land would turn these areas into condos for the wealthy. I know the govt only cares abt the wealthy but using housing affordability as a tagline to fund their own pet projects is annoying as hell.
Rent caps do not work. And BC already has that.
Why. Only in vancouver its full try out of town sites that would work 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
That always works in giant cities lol
And then you’ll just increase the cost of apartments surrounding the skytrain stn due to convenience. I agree yep lots of lost opportunities you can see that all along the expo line not just in Vancouver. So Why don’t you tackle the shortage of housing and make them affordable at the same time and stop immigration until this problem is solved ?! We don’t need more luxury suites sitting empty . If Vancouverites had any idea just how many suites are actually empty they’d shet themselves ! Meanwhile Canadians are dying on our streets .. Smh. If this country can afford to send billions of dollars worth of weapons to Ukraine to contribute in killing thousands of people you can get every Canadian into a home 🏡
Vote Conservative 🗳 Pierre Poilievre for Prime Minister of Canada 🇨🇦 #Pierre4PM #TrudeauMustGoNow
Vancouvers a ticking time bomb
Its nothing like it was & its moving so fast towards killing that happy cool vibe that its not even worth talking about
The happy cool vibe left about 2003
I hope they'll be equal opportunity housing.
build it and he will come
just send people somewhere else, why TF does every city have to keep growing until its an unmanageable sh thole?
i loved living in North Van and West Van, but the greater vancouver area is not pretty or pleasant.
Only solution to housing crisis is interest rate to 20% for 10 years.
That's the only real way to do it... Hong Kong/Vancouver-style... High rise skyscrapers built above mixed-use podiums at/above/next to rapid transit stations... It's also how you make sure nobody ever wants/needs a car again! Two birds, 1 stone as it were... I may not agree with the Mayor on much but this? You betcha!
Their housing market is just as unaffordable even with that design
Hong Kong is the world's most expensive place to live in with the world's highest rent.
lol they allowed the highest rent increase percentage possible and they try and say they trying hard to fix housing lmao
uhh..... You didn't build the housing before you accepted millions of immigrants per year?
Oh I see the picture do you ⁉️
Yeah totally Vancouver's idea, totally not a move closer to the 15min city model that Vancouver has been signed on to since 2012. UNSDG's are evil.
So.... pierres idea?
dont worry your 15min city is on the way
Ken is simply useless. Bringing Burnaby to Vancouver won't help at all.
And all of them will cost 1 to 2 million each. How about buying the houses back sold to the Asians that don't actually live here and those houses sit empty for decades!
The buildings around the sky train are so expensive currently that have been built.... sure this is a real solution LMFAO!
Im pretty sure anything will be great for the homeless at this point! Stop worrrying about the dam power!! People need housing!°
Suggesing it a high-quality of life when u packed loads of people into a confined area, is absurd. It is healty for people to have person space, and no, not just during pandemics, although the name of the game the. Is space, so hey, thats just another of the dozens of reasons space is good. Loads of people in a limited area works nowhere in the world that is multicultural. And since Canada has deemed 'Multiculturalism' to be a panacea, the more spread out we are the better. High density in North American always means high crime, name one pkace on this continent that that is not a fact..??..
What is your solution?
While density in other continents = overcrowding, disease outbreaks, mass natural disaster deaths, etc.
This will do nothing
Hahahah Funny.
Before building or renew the town, please fix housing market first!
Trudeau to donate his cottage and mansion
whos going to make money off this ??
Welcome to "common sense"..
Tell me the conservatives are going to get in in the next election, without telling me they are going to get elected......
uh you mean they're going to try and overthrow the government Trump style? because otherwise your comment makes no...
High denisty neighbourhoods are entirely dependant on globalism stocking the shelves. The very thing people want to depend on is what is responsible for the rapid destruction of the planet. A good measure of sustainability is can we stand on our own; and can we maintain that with means that are entirely dependant on what we do.
It's cheaper and more environmentally friendly to ship something from Egypt to Newfoundland then from Manitoba to Newfoundland, even using the st.lawrence from Ontario onwards. That's not including labour market and economy.
Shipping by land is very resource intensive vs. Shipping by water, we should ship by water whenever possible .
@@gravegaming2023 I work at a grocery store in western Quebec (about 1hr from Ottawa). We fairly often get beef that's been imported from Mexico and Australia. If you're going to sit there and pretend like it's cheaper and more "environmentally friendly" to ship beef the 3000km from Mexico or the 16000km from Australia rather than having it produced here (Quebec and Ontario BOTH have more than enough potential farmland to make imports wholly unnecessary) then you're delusional.
@@Astraeus.. nice strawman, let me put it in a more direct way.
Every 500km land travel is less environmentally friendly than 5000km water travel.
This doesn't include that we export lots to Mexico and ships aren't going to come back to Canada empty . Find an import to fill the ship with and you cut the overall environmental cost nearly in half right there.
So yes, it's better to ship beef from mexico to Ottawa than from Windsor to Ottawa.
So yes, it's better to ship beef from Australia to Montreal than it is from Thunder Bay to Montreal.
Hahahahahahaha.... Are you serious .... Hahaha , that will not help anything .... 0.01% people will get helped and that assuming they help anyone . Selling it for a 10 million to a rich guy will not solve the homelessness issue ...
really though , come on people pull ur heads out of your ..............
Chinese style cramped living in Chinese City?... Soon to be reality in Chinada
Hahahahahahahahaa! Corrupt!
When it comes to humanity's long term survival I think the most logical action we can take as a species is to ENSURE safe housing, clean water, healthy food, quality education, and full health care for EVERYONE, while planning future development to be in harmony with the Earth and with each other ❤♾
Right - the skytrain otherwise known as the drug train. Every station will look disgusting! Didnt mention the new Arbutus and the Cambie Station.
Are you old? You sound boomerish. How come Burnaby and Coquitlam stations aren't how you're describing when they're doing what the mayor is proposing?
Give me a break. Do you even ride the train? I use it daily, and the sketchiest stations are the quietest ones, y'know, like Naniamo and 29th.
Do you even take the Skytrain?
Yes. More riders in skytrain that Baird less crime because no one likes to do crime in crowded station, only quite one.
@@GG-os4is BBY and Coquitlam are a long ways form Mainstreet Vancouver, Cambie, Vancouver and the growing homeless in Arbutus Vancouver.
Cool. I guess thatll take 15 years so that our generation is nice and outta the way.
Maybe stop letting immigrants in that’s what is friggen ridiculous
Not as "friggen ridiculous" as your comment is. We need immigrants.
Ok Sims, so your building it, and WHO CAN AFFORD TO BUY IT Geshhhhhhhhhhhh. something is wrong with you when LAND PRICES are so high, why would the developer LOSS MONEY TO Build something that YOU ALL CAN NOT AFFORD. so who are you building it for...t W A T S