It's the heartbreaking truth..How can we describe the consequences of the downright shocking truths...Today not only does Ukraine continue to bleed,but so do millions of people.😡
"there is a battle for the soul of man being fought at the moment and it's being fought on the battlefields of Ukraine, and it is the Ukrainians who are doing the fighting, bleeding and dying on all our behalf" well said Cormac
yeah but tech and knowledge is provided by Usa. Not like I try to make an excuse, North Korea and Iran can send missiles to russia but Ukraine ain't allowed to do the same is just stupid
@@bennyboy5374 We have our own tech and knowledge, Ukraine can share a lot in that area with US actually. We just neglected that area. And one of our former Presidents, Kuchma, was actually from Juzhmash. He notoriously gave away our nuclear weapons too, and he was a proponent of balancing between West and Russia, what was a mistake from today's point of view.
@@bennyboy5374 To my knowledge the Neptun antiship missiles and modifications made out of those are Ukrainian tech, not American. You are aware that Soviet ballistic and cruise missiles were designed and manufactured in Ukraine? Not all but good part. Ukraine also produced nukes. The equipment was decommissioned with the Budapest deal and Ukraine gave its nukes, missiles and strategic bombers to Russia against security guarantees from USA, UK and Russia, and in lesser extent from France. As these countries said after Russia's attack in 2022, that the agreement is not legally binding and they don't need to send troops to help Ukraine, I suppose Ukraine is free to resurrect their nuclear weapons program.
Its not a willpower problem, its a capability problem. Nato simply can't help ukraine any more unless they want to be directly part of the war.They maxxed out their proxy war.
yes, very good, but one problem needs to be resolved and it is big and urgent, why do all Americans and Brits fall for the Russian propaganda lie about the chaos and the civil war that will break out once Russia decolonizes? this is insane, there is no indication for this happening, 1991 nothing of that sort happened and if you look at Russia's population today, they go and fight because they get paid, they will never fight for something else, they will steal and maybe hurt a neighbour when they steal their car, but not start a nuclear war with the West, because everything they need is in the West, remember, Russia produces nothing much, everything is imported, imagine Russia falls apart and let's say regional governors take over, they will need the West to organize and trade for what they need, this will keep them busy, imagine 15 smaller Russia's , each one of them will never be strong enough to harm us🤡
Unfortunate,there are not many Storm Shadow,stocks are pretty low and production is limited today.hopefully US will allow atacms and even more important the jassm missiles..but its a dam DISGRACE,a SHAME that we force Ukraine,pressure Ukraine to fight with 1 hand behind their back..its 100% unfair,unjust,disgusting and wrong!🤬🥹 Stay strong Ukraine,stay united!.we in Sweden belive in you and support you! Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦💙💛🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪💯👍
Sweden how does it feel to give up your "Sovereignty" 17 US basees being built in your country and for what ? At least you'll get plenty of titie bars that follow the Americans every where they go....hilarius
If Philip is correct in saying that the US and German governments might restrict Ukraine from attacking oil refineries and storage depots, or even electrical power generation and distribution infrastructure within arbitrarily designated Russian sanctuaries, I believe that would be a major strategic error. Any facilities which can directly or even indirectly affect Russian forces' ability to make further military progress on Ukraine's eastern front or in Kursk are completely legitimate targets for attack. In point of fact, Ukraine has already made successful drone strikes on those types of targets with good effect despite the fact that explosive payloads delivered by long range UAVs are significantly less than those carried by ATACMs and Storm Shadows. Drone delivered attacks are therefore more psychologically symbolic and less effective in an operational or tactical sense. Ukraine walks a tactical tightrope, because the implicit threat by important allies that they might halt the supply of long range precision attack munitions, unfairly limits Kyiv's operational flexibility in eliminating Russian threats to its own civilian population centers, and lessens its chances of bringing this brutal war to a successful conclusion. We saw what happened in Vietnam when the Johnson Administration made Haiphong Harbor and large swaths of Laos and Cambodia off limits to American and South Vietnamese air power. It spelled existential disaster for the Republic of Vietnam.
Bear in mind that ATACMS range is around 190 miles and Storm Shadow range is about 340 miles. JASSMS, air launched cruise miles that have been talked about, have a range of about 230 miles. Ukraine is also working on its own Palyanytsia ballistic missile which is expected to have a range somewhere around 375 miles. Meanwhile strikes by Ukrainian drones have already traveled to Moscow: 670 miles, Murmansk: 1800 miles and Omsk: 2100 miles. Russia is an extremely large country, The majority of refineries tend to be in the western, i.e more accessible, part of Russia, but the main UralVagonZavod tank factory is located in the Urals at Nizhny Tagil, some 1600 miles from Ukraine.
Good comparison in my opinion. At the same time, Putin's goal to fracture NATO could work if all NATO members don't prepare for a much larger conflict as Poland is doing.
I stand with this guy and everything he says- Fact. Ukraine should be able to do whatever is necessary with USA weapons to win and END this war 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦❤️🙏🏻🇺🇸💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻
As the closest neighbour to the US I am quite aware of how the American public thinks. This lack of commitment, almost frozen hesitancy by the US has happened before, many times. WW2 is one shameful example. Do nothing until attacked themselves.
I have nothing but love and respect for Poland. Not only did they take in and assist with an enormous amount of Ukraine refugees but are among the NATO nations who have taken deadly seriously the threat of Putin's mafiosa regime and built up their defenses like almost no other NATO nation. ❤️💪💪💪 🇵🇱.
Both sides have similar perspectives on the "Russian issue". The difference is only in methods. Let's hope Harris thinks a bit differently. No high hopes tho.
@@artmcteagle The Americans threw Ukrania under a bus a long time ago or haven't you been paying attention. They are being used as a proxie army,they are not an allie.
Glory to Ukraine! Russian propaganda is getting crazier by the day. IMO, this is a sign of desperation. They are beginning to realize that they are going to lose this war.
Bravo Cormac Smith! Your candid views are much appreciated & should be more widely shared! It’s well past time for the West to stop dithering & vacillating!
Uncle Sam works WITH Russia. If Russia falls, it becomes a problem. Uncle Sam hates it when others get nukes. The fall of Russia also suggests another nuclear superpower can trip and fall.
USA has contributed close to all Ukraine nations combined. Americans "choose" to pay a large percentage of our taxes to our defense industry, which for over 70 years kept free navigation of our seas, free air space for transportation and the only nuclear triad to keep Russia in check. What have other NATO nations done during these 70 years other than to enjoy global trade without properly preparing for their own personal defense. I am a very liberal democratic American and I am offended by insults from nations who could barely defend themselves in a dispute with a neighboring European nation....just call the U.S. I'm sorry, yes the U.S. is a very powerful nation and every tax payer knows why. How about looking at your own government spending before you blame the U.S. for every problem?
Not much I can add enforcing sanctions on Russia and providing Ukraine the full use of and everything that they need to prosecute the war,except what's happening to all the talk about ramping up Europe's military industrial complex as US elections are only a few weeks away now and many months have again passed since this was a burning issue to continue supporting Ukraine regardless of outcome in US elections.
his legacy will be of a failed one term sleeper-in-chief and demented coward. his brain was turning into pudding already in 2020 as anybody not affected by TDS hysteria noticed by his memory problems and incoherent ramblings. Back then they just tried to dismiss it with "stutter" when in previous years, even during the obama era, he had no such "stutter" He had the golden ticket layed out to him by fate and could finally let this americas decades long arch enemy, soviet union/russia, be completely defeated in its imperial aggression. By immediately backing as soon as ukranians showed the will to fight and flooding the country with all the weapons and gear they asked. Instead he trembled in fear, dilly-dallied around until the war stalemated and now is slowly grinding away all the goodwill of outsiders had toward america No surprise given that even before he went senile he was the only big brained chess player who was against taking out bin laden. before that during the 80s he loudly criticized Reagan for the star war program as being "provocative" to the soviet union. He was never cut out for the job and its only his ego that kept pushing him into it
@mdevilden Me too, obviously. I abhorrent Trump, his 3 time military draft deferment for bone spurs yet he golf every day he can. He also adores dictators like Putin and Kim Jun Ung. Trump wants to be America's first dictator. He said so himself. I hope I live long enough to when MAGA is an almost forgotten chapter in American history. Trump is a chump, Don the con, always has been, never will change.
We are not going to announce the permission to strike targets inside russia before it happens!!, like the storm shadow arrival without announcement had more affect. But as i keep saying a storm shadow missile is for bunkers or deep penatration , i suppose it could target air base communication tower or power buildings, but the runways and functionality if these bases need wiping out. So the f16 can carry side arms that can do just that so i wouldn't give up on Ukraine hitting these targets anyway or a surprise appearance of our missiles
Do you think they are talking about morals in those meetings? I think they are talking about how to get putin back in his little box without doing something stupid. I hope Ukrainians get some help.
We are watching, in real time, current political figureheads replaying past events. From the German guard, Schultz, in the comedy “Hogan’s Heroes” saying…. “I see nothing, I know nothing” to modern-day Chamberlains ‘Biden their time’. Politicians remain the same, doing whatever they see is best in their own selfish interests and ignoring the openly obvious plights of helpless innocents. Where are the Winston Churchills of today when you need them?
Speculation on my part but I know several American oil and gas corporations have been in Russia for building or maintaining the facilities. French oil and gas, German corporations lie Siemens have had a large investment in the Russian infrastructure. Would these push for "timidity" on the parts of the various governments? It's quite possible. Regardless, this timidity is nonsense when an entire country is facing annihilation. 🇺🇦🔱
Given that the Russian economy is deteriorating, that the country is run by a murderous thug, that Russia has stolen these companies' investments there, and that the future Russian political situation is uncertain, I'd be surprised if many companies would be dying to go back into Russia. One can't underestimate the power of greed, but I expect most Russians will be much poorer and less able to afford foreign goods after this is all over, while corporations will see Russia as an unreliable and untrustworthy partner.
Mr. Smith & Colonel Ingram are a great return panel, hopefully they become regular return guests, pretty much well on par, with Mark Toth & Jon Sweet as a well integrated combo pair that knows their stuff. One more point, about the secrecy of the Kursk operation - last years summer "counter offensive, the original plan was to go cut the land bridge in the territory of the Karkhovka Dam, and because everyone blabbed about it, the Russians blew the dam and f**ked up our plan. THat's part of the reason the counter never worked, that and the Sorovikin line, but we'd chosen the weakest point to hit at it and the flooding of the land in that region ruined that, probably, as Jonathon intimated, the plans got leaked to the Kremlin via Washington.
i'm a yank hawk and i doubt Wa. leaked that. If we eventually they/we did, ppl like me will hold us accountable, not that it matter in retro for Ukr but it might financially, ie perhaps US /we will assist Ukr more in rebuildling if we actually were severely incompetent in that way, by leaking to the most psycopathic sadists in late modern history, aka 'russians'.
NATO provided long-range guided missiles to Ukraine? An alternative approach could be to supply Ukraine immediately, regardless of cost, with the materials and knowledge transfer necessary to develop its own long-range weapons and electronic navigation systems. This would reduce NATO's direct involvement while empowering Ukraine to defend itself. NATO must refrain from delivering long-range weapons to Ukraine to avoid escalating tensions with Russia. Putin has warned that such weapons, used with NATO satellite assistance, would be seen as direct NATO involvement in the conflict. If Russia perceives this as an act of war, it may retaliate by targeting NATO satellites, which could lead to a broader conflict or even World War III. The risk of nuclear escalation would increase significantly, endangering global security. Therefore, an immediate alternative is essential.
So cause Putin warned against long range missiles NATO should jump to that tune? Look at what Russia is doing in it's illegal attack on a neighbour state. Ukraine needs to stop the glide bombs being sent from Russian territory. Suggest a better way?
It's about narrative, not reality. Ukraine has almost certainly already been using NATO satellites. Putin is just using the issue as yet another redline. Go on the narrative-offensive and state Ukraine is deriving its own data from civilian satellites.
I'm a Biden supporter,but this issue pisses me off! It reminds me of what President Johnson and Robert McNamara did. Fighting with one arm tied behind the back!!!
You’d think they learned something from Vietnam, huh? But i assume Comrade Sullivanov is more concerned about having a good nights sleep, and not dreaming about Puting angrily waving his finger at him.
The real problem is American "management" of NATO. Europe needs to stand on it's own two feet and manage it's own defense. And NO, this is NOT support of trump in any way, shape or form.
The British are the worst. Everything has to be discussed and exposed, including all doubts and weaknesses. It’s like discussing the merits of intended chess moves with your opponent. Just keep schtum and do things sneakily, lie if necessary, but overall maintain a facade of inscrutability.
I don’t think it’s a factor at all! There will not be a popular revolution, and no matter how deeply people come to despise Putin, they will not do anything about it.
Ukraine: "Please help us defend our country?" USA: "Okay, we will stand by you as long as it takes!" Then they go back to bed and do nothing. // In the future: "Hey, here is the history of the US back then. It lists all these members of the government as baby killers. One of them is a president."
The training of Ukrainian pilots for F-16 is organized worse than arts and crafts class in school. USA said they can train maximum 10 pilots a year. How is that possible, if a country 70 times smaller like Denmark can train 30 pilots a year for Ukraine. Well done Denmark btw. It doesn't look like anyone is coordinating this training, as individual countries from time to time tell the press that they are offering to train some pilots.
@@RodrickLionheart are you telling me that those are right. Yes it charity, but the longer they take to help, Ukraine me be need More. Sort if you are American, but the politicians are very corrupt.
From my POV as an American: What goes-on on the streets of most of the Western countries is that the poor and minorities cannot expect any justice and the Rules and Law only seem to apply to us in the middle class and not to the Rich and the Powerful (and especially not the Corporations - e.g. Boeing). Similarly, the West also picks and chooses where we apply our "Rule of Law": not applying it when we invade other countries (Granada, Iraq, etc.), where our troops commit mass-murders (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.), where we don't see much profit (Ukraine, Africa, Burma, ...) or where our allies are actively committing Genocide right now, and have been for the past year (Palestine). Still, what we have (the dictatorship of the Corporations, the Rich and the Powerful) at least allows us to "speak" and breath freely - more or less. However, the similar groups who also control the BRICS (especially Russia, Iran and China, as well as N. Korea, Venezuela, etc.) are completely intolerant of any free speech, movement, etc. (Such groups have been controlling every country, more or less, for at least the past several decades). Therefore, given a choice, I'd much rather live under the rule of the Western powers than those of the BRICS-type terrorist leaders. Yes: our hands in the West are not saintly and yes, we are often hypocritical, but all our leaders ask for is everyone else's wealth and not their lives. Sadness.... And the comparison that you are looking for is that Russia will become to China what the UK has been to the US - just so it could stay "relevant". Oh my, how the passage of time takes its tole on all of us. And I agree: refusing weapons (that we already have) to Ukraine and limiting how they can be used is not only immoral, but also short-sighted when it comes to our own long-term defense and security (a selfish matter), not just in Europe, but also in the Chinese theater. Slava Ukraini. Heroyam Slava. 💙💛
I agree w/ most of what they say, but there is some disingenuousness. "Omg, the rules based order, very important, Russia hurting it!". Meanwhile, they have nothing to say about an ethno-state carrying out war crimes at a rate & scale not seen for decades, WITH 110% backing & complicity by the entire "west". (i.e. Israel)... Russia kills 500 kids & 10k civilians in 3 years, "omg it's a genocide!". Israel kills 20k kids & 13k women in 8 months, using the equivalent of 3+ Hiroshima blasts in an area the size of east London, not so much as a mention when talking about how the west is so steadfast in international law & the rules based order. Israel does annexation- crickets. Russia does it- bring out the bullion & soapbox. To be super clear, my point is NOT "well Russia gets a free pass then & international law is bad"... its how about some principals, honesty, integrity, & consistency. Russia, Hamas, & Israel(& all its backers) must be held accountable. International law is important & is a good thing, but not when it's it's nothing more than a weapon to be wielded for geopolitics & to be discarded at earliest convenience, only to be picked up as a shield once u find utility in it...
As an Australian who has travelled much. Meeting many Englishman and many Americans throughout the world. The English will apologise were not necessarily. But take an Englishman off the leash you are the most reasonable sycopaths on earth. The Americans not so. What the Americans need is to grow a pare and help Ukraine to win not just survive for now. America's contempt for America's betters is laughable(:-)
I wonder if Philip Ingram would have been saying in 1943-44 that "we need to think of a way to allow h1tl3r to save face and to prevent the disintegration of the third r3ich and that's a tricky balance to find". He really is very afraid of ruzzian defeat itsn't he? I would recommend he read some dugin before bedtime
from what I hear that Patrushev FSB has won the political power struggle for now with the imprisonment of various Russian army officers close to Shoigu Russian army. So the FSB is now helming the Russian gov and the direction of Russia's war in Ukraine. So while the Patrushev FSB has won the power struggle for now. the Shoigu GRU/Army is now down and out and still a strong force, so if the FSB flops, the Army will be in ascendant. Putin himself is a bit more closer to Patrushev FSB than he is to Shoigu so he favours the FSB a bit more however he has to counterbalance the FSB with the GRU/Russian army, since keeping both sides weak as to not being strong enough to overthrow Putin is imperative. However the Russian army leadership really does not like the FSB and being put under the military leadership of the FSB I think will be disastrous. since the army leadership might act in a way to throw the war .
Britain was a Superpower, and in that time learnt from it, if you are a Superpower there will always be those who wish to take it from you, fact. It had an empire, and many condemn empire's but what if Britain was right, it's be killed or kill first to save your life in a one on one battle, same for a Rules Based world. We sit and deliberate while they gain advantage and power, before long it will to late to do what needs to be done. Now i'm not saying another empire is a good idea, what i'm saying is Britain sowed the seed with it's empire, we share a common set of values, rules based order, Governmental system, court system, language etc with other nations, perhaps an Anglosphere or CANZUK or an Alliance of Democracies.
There was NEVER any significant difference between Republicans + Trump and Democrats + Biden. It all comes down to keeping Putin's regime in charge. As well as China kept up in business with the US.
@@GailBurfootThat was a very smart move for them. Reduced the losses while being the main winner and the "savior", helped to spread their power and influence over Europe and earn massive profits by rebuilding it. And everyone is thankful, nevertheless.
ukraine has also no trained soldiers anymore. only untrained mostly men between 40 to 60 years old who are forced to the front. with such soldiers any war is lost.
I agree that BRICS in some way wants to emulate the EU, but perhaps even more important they want to replace USD with their own currency as the new world reserve currency, or a strong competitor of that.
Western hypocrisy Russia too has rights,give Russia it due,what is NATO doing in Russian border let ukarine be a neutral nation what is difficult in that must everyone bow to western ideas
ukraine was misused by NATo and never had a chance.The expectation of nato was to win the economic war, but that was lost. So now ukraine is of not much use, but costs a lot. so ukraine is dumped.
@@davidl.7317 i believe that your problem is not to understand that in a war both sides lie as lie can. Also very powerful psychological brainwashing tecniques are used. By BOTH sides. If you dont take this fact into acount you are lost and brainwashed and believe the propaganda of "your" side. And one more information: the bad guys are always the others. Dont forget this. I hope i could help you. And thats it for me.
@babahanuman83 BS. Ukraine's allies are not dumping them. Russian military is a paper tiger from all the Soviet and Russian corruption over the years. If NATO truly got involved this war would be ended in a week. We are hoping this does not occur, if Russia wants to push it NATO is more than equipped to end it on NATO terms. Putin has made a horrible miscalculation. He may have caught NATO weak, now we have had time to start up military production, and this should include not only armaments but also increased troop numbers.
It's the heartbreaking truth..How can we describe the consequences of the downright shocking truths...Today not only does Ukraine continue to bleed,but so do millions of people.😡
It is our money and guns today,
or our daughters and sons tomorrow.
- Cormac Smith
Sons, only Sons.
@@AS-np3yq Women serve in the armed forces as well, also russia targets civilians.
These guests are about the best I've ever seen on your show. Right to the point and they are saying it how it really is
"there is a battle for the soul of man being fought at the moment and it's being fought on the battlefields of Ukraine, and it is the Ukrainians who are doing the fighting, bleeding and dying on all our behalf" well said Cormac
Great vocabulary too! I had to look this one up
punctilious
/ˌpʌŋ(k)ˈtɪlɪəs/
adjective
showing great attention to detail or correct behaviour.
Cormac Smith is so well articulated and straight forward! A real „fighting Irish“!
And don't forget that the majority of humanity is almost always wrong. Majority of people are ignorant and stupid.
The soul of man is fine it doesn't need the overthrow of Russia. That's backwards thinking.
No wonder Ukraine is working on its own ballistic missiles.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦.
Bigger balls than any Western nation.
yeah but tech and knowledge is provided by Usa. Not like I try to make an excuse, North Korea and Iran can send missiles to russia but Ukraine ain't allowed to do the same is just stupid
@@bennyboy5374 We have our own tech and knowledge, Ukraine can share a lot in that area with US actually. We just neglected that area. And one of our former Presidents, Kuchma, was actually from Juzhmash. He notoriously gave away our nuclear weapons too, and he was a proponent of balancing between West and Russia, what was a mistake from today's point of view.
@@bennyboy5374 To my knowledge the Neptun antiship missiles and modifications made out of those are Ukrainian tech, not American. You are aware that Soviet ballistic and cruise missiles were designed and manufactured in Ukraine? Not all but good part. Ukraine also produced nukes. The equipment was decommissioned with the Budapest deal and Ukraine gave its nukes, missiles and strategic bombers to Russia against security guarantees from USA, UK and Russia, and in lesser extent from France. As these countries said after Russia's attack in 2022, that the agreement is not legally binding and they don't need to send troops to help Ukraine, I suppose Ukraine is free to resurrect their nuclear weapons program.
@@SergyOrloff Yeah I'm aware of it, Bill Clinton said it's his biggest regret to force Ukraine to give up it's nukes.
If ever there was a reason that the US should never be in charge of NATO this is it.
Its not a willpower problem, its a capability problem.
Nato simply can't help ukraine any more unless they want to be directly part of the war.They maxxed out their proxy war.
Who would do a better job and why? I'm not saying that the response is what I call great.
@davidshapiro292 It's still a matter of willpower. Putin keeps winning the brinkmanship game. Long-range missiles are just the latest iteration.
Russia doesn’t care as we do who provides the weapons or how they are used or on whom.That is the difference between our approach and russias.
@@davidshapiro292 Please go away.
Fantastic episode
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Thanks for the Stream and for the fantastic guests … 💙💛💙
yes, very good, but one problem needs to be resolved and it is big and urgent, why do all Americans and Brits fall for the Russian propaganda lie about the chaos and the civil war that will break out once Russia decolonizes? this is insane, there is no indication for this happening, 1991 nothing of that sort happened and if you look at Russia's population today, they go and fight because they get paid, they will never fight for something else, they will steal and maybe hurt a neighbour when they steal their car, but not start a nuclear war with the West, because everything they need is in the West, remember, Russia produces nothing much, everything is imported, imagine Russia falls apart and let's say regional governors take over, they will need the West to organize and trade for what they need, this will keep them busy, imagine 15 smaller Russia's , each one of them will never be strong enough to harm us🤡
Unfortunate,there are not many Storm Shadow,stocks are pretty low and production is limited today.hopefully US will allow atacms and even more important the jassm missiles..but its a dam DISGRACE,a SHAME that we force Ukraine,pressure Ukraine to fight with 1 hand behind their back..its 100% unfair,unjust,disgusting and wrong!🤬🥹
Stay strong Ukraine,stay united!.we in Sweden belive in you and support you!
Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦💙💛🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪💯👍
"Friends" for some Nations are only "friends" if a country can get more back than they give. 🤬
It's happened so many times.
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Sweden how does it feel to give up your "Sovereignty" 17 US basees being built in your country and for what ? At least you'll get plenty of titie bars that follow the Americans every where they go....hilarius
NATO is so very lucky to have Sweden 🇸🇪 join our alliance.
Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 The most innovative and inspirational army on earth 🇺🇦💪
If Philip is correct in saying that the US and German governments might restrict Ukraine from attacking oil refineries and storage depots, or even electrical power generation and distribution infrastructure within arbitrarily designated Russian sanctuaries, I believe that would be a major strategic error. Any facilities which can directly or even indirectly affect Russian forces' ability to make further military progress on Ukraine's eastern front or in Kursk are completely legitimate targets for attack. In point of fact, Ukraine has already made successful drone strikes on those types of targets with good effect despite the fact that explosive payloads delivered by long range UAVs are significantly less than those carried by ATACMs and Storm Shadows. Drone delivered attacks are therefore more psychologically symbolic and less effective in an operational or tactical sense.
Ukraine walks a tactical tightrope, because the implicit threat by important allies that they might halt the supply of long range precision attack munitions, unfairly limits Kyiv's operational flexibility in eliminating Russian threats to its own civilian population centers, and lessens its chances of bringing this brutal war to a successful conclusion. We saw what happened in Vietnam when the Johnson Administration made Haiphong Harbor and large swaths of Laos and Cambodia off limits to American and South Vietnamese air power. It spelled existential disaster for the Republic of Vietnam.
It is not that easy. Half of the West, Trump, MAGA, his cults cry WW3 every day.
The United States always chooses the best option when all other options are exausted... Winston Churchill said something similar.
Bear in mind that ATACMS range is around 190 miles and Storm Shadow range is about 340 miles. JASSMS, air launched cruise miles that have been talked about, have a range of about 230 miles. Ukraine is also working on its own Palyanytsia ballistic missile which is expected to have a range somewhere around 375 miles. Meanwhile strikes by Ukrainian drones have already traveled to Moscow: 670 miles, Murmansk: 1800 miles and Omsk: 2100 miles. Russia is an extremely large country, The majority of refineries tend to be in the western, i.e more accessible, part of Russia, but the main UralVagonZavod tank factory is located in the Urals at Nizhny Tagil, some 1600 miles from Ukraine.
Germany fears a new rival...
Good comparison in my opinion.
At the same time, Putin's goal to fracture NATO could work if all NATO members don't prepare for a much larger conflict as Poland is doing.
Thanks Jonathan 😊
You had her before 4 months ago. Just re listening to it. 😊 Her voice is so sound.
One to watch 🙏🇺🇦✌
Philip Ittner & Jessica Berlin interview
If you're against a "rules-based order" you have no (rules-based) grounds to complain about someone trying to impose a "rules-based order."
What rules? More Western lectures on International Law? Don't make me laugh. Follow your own rules, then we'll talk.
@@GeistInTheMachineHow deep did you take Putin's nob?
@@GeistInTheMachine "Follow your own rules, then we'll talk."
Is that a rule?
I stand with this guy and everything he says- Fact. Ukraine should be able to do whatever is necessary with USA weapons to win and END this war 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦❤️🙏🏻🇺🇸💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻
100% except I would add, USA and NATO made weapons.
What a surprise in Baltic we know it years ago.
What did you know years ago ?
The same in Poland.
As the closest neighbour to the US I am quite aware of how the American public thinks. This lack of commitment, almost frozen hesitancy by the US has happened before, many times.
WW2 is one shameful example. Do nothing until attacked themselves.
@goenzoy712
How Russia thinks, and how wesk the west is. Pussies.
I have nothing but love and respect for Poland. Not only did they take in and assist with an enormous amount of Ukraine refugees but are among the NATO nations who have taken deadly seriously the threat of Putin's mafiosa regime and built up their defenses like almost no other NATO nation.
❤️💪💪💪 🇵🇱.
Wow, what a top notch conversation! Couldn’t agree more with Cormac Smith‘s well articulated analysis of that dreadful conflict!!!
Powerfully put Gentlemen !
Salva Ucrania. Thanks Jonathan. Regards from Argentina.
AMERICA - LAND OF THE FREE & GROVELING!!!
GFY
Cormac is absolutely correct about china.
Who needs enemies when you have friends like America.
"Goodbye Crimean Bridge, so long."
If trump gets voted in.all this talk won't matter.
Both sides have similar perspectives on the "Russian issue". The difference is only in methods. Let's hope Harris thinks a bit differently. No high hopes tho.
@HanSolo__ It's clear Putin wants another Trump presidency.
@@HanSolo__ Trump will throw Ukraine under the bus, did you not watch the debate?
@@artmcteagle
The Americans threw Ukrania under a bus a long time ago or haven't you been paying attention. They are being used as a proxie army,they are not an allie.
@@DickDuck007 I have been paying attention, and what you just said is a typical statement from a russian troll. The usual lies.
Lukashenko “pushed to one side”…more like down a well.
"A battle for the soul of man" excellently put.
I am afraid but sadly this is the case.
Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦❤️🙏🏻
Glory to Ukraine! Russian propaganda is getting crazier by the day. IMO, this is a sign of desperation. They are beginning to realize that they are going to lose this war.
....and what propaganda would that be?, especially that all and any Russian media is banned in Europe
Fascinating. Thank you Jonathan 😊 Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
Bravo Cormac Smith!
Your candid views are much appreciated & should be more widely shared!
It’s well past time for the West to stop dithering & vacillating!
Great interview. I liked Cormac's comparison with WW2. Thanks Jonathan.
Uncle Sam needs to increase his range over Mother Russia.
They are dansing...
Uncle Sam works WITH Russia. If Russia falls, it becomes a problem. Uncle Sam hates it when others get nukes.
The fall of Russia also suggests another nuclear superpower can trip and fall.
USA has contributed close to all Ukraine nations combined. Americans "choose" to pay a large percentage of our taxes to our defense industry, which for over 70 years kept free navigation of our seas, free air space for transportation and the only nuclear triad to keep Russia in check.
What have other NATO nations done during these 70 years other than to enjoy global trade without properly preparing for their own personal defense.
I am a very liberal democratic American and I am offended by insults from nations who could barely defend themselves in a dispute with a neighboring European nation....just call the U.S.
I'm sorry, yes the U.S. is a very powerful nation and every tax payer knows why. How about looking at your own government spending before you blame the U.S. for every problem?
Not much I can add enforcing sanctions on Russia and providing Ukraine the full use of and everything that they need to prosecute the war,except what's happening to all the talk about ramping up Europe's military industrial complex as US elections are only a few weeks away now and many months have again passed since this was a burning issue to continue supporting Ukraine regardless of outcome in US elections.
25:00 Will Biden's legacy be too little too late?
Biden's legacy, at least in the U.S., will live long. His dedication to America and the world based order.
@@davidl.7317 I respect Biden. His dedication to America is unquestioned(by any reasonable person)
his legacy will be of a failed one term sleeper-in-chief and demented coward. his brain was turning into pudding already in 2020 as anybody not affected by TDS hysteria noticed by his memory problems and incoherent ramblings. Back then they just tried to dismiss it with "stutter" when in previous years, even during the obama era, he had no such "stutter"
He had the golden ticket layed out to him by fate and could finally let this americas decades long arch enemy, soviet union/russia, be completely defeated in its imperial aggression. By immediately backing as soon as ukranians showed the will to fight and flooding the country with all the weapons and gear they asked. Instead he trembled in fear, dilly-dallied around until the war stalemated and now is slowly grinding away all the goodwill of outsiders had toward america
No surprise given that even before he went senile he was the only big brained chess player who was against taking out bin laden. before that during the 80s he loudly criticized Reagan for the star war program as being "provocative" to the soviet union. He was never cut out for the job and its only his ego that kept pushing him into it
@mdevilden Me too, obviously. I abhorrent Trump, his 3 time military draft deferment for bone spurs yet he golf every day he can. He also adores dictators like Putin and Kim Jun Ung. Trump wants to be America's first dictator. He said so himself. I hope I live long enough to when MAGA is an almost forgotten chapter in American history.
Trump is a chump, Don the con, always has been, never will change.
Omg that was just a fantastic discussion, thank you.
We are not going to announce the permission to strike targets inside russia before it happens!!, like the storm shadow arrival without announcement had more affect. But as i keep saying a storm shadow missile is for bunkers or deep penatration , i suppose it could target air base communication tower or power buildings, but the runways and functionality if these bases need wiping out. So the f16 can carry side arms that can do just that so i wouldn't give up on Ukraine hitting these targets anyway or a surprise appearance of our missiles
Thank you❤
Awesome interview again 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇺🇦🇺🇦
Never forget what the Russians did to Mariupol.
They are so fantastic those people in this RUclips! 👌👍
Thx JF
Larry Johnson ,summed up this Ingran guy very well.
Do you think they are talking about morals in those meetings? I think they are talking about how to get putin back in his little box without doing something stupid. I hope Ukrainians get some help.
Couldn't agree more with both.
Good 👍
We are watching, in real time, current political figureheads replaying past events. From the German guard, Schultz, in the comedy “Hogan’s Heroes” saying…. “I see nothing, I know nothing” to modern-day Chamberlains ‘Biden their time’. Politicians remain the same, doing whatever they see is best in their own selfish interests and ignoring the openly obvious plights of helpless innocents. Where are the Winston Churchills of today when you need them?
Speculation on my part but I know several American oil and gas corporations have been in Russia for building or maintaining the facilities.
French oil and gas, German corporations lie Siemens have had a large investment in the Russian infrastructure.
Would these push for "timidity" on the parts of the various governments? It's quite possible.
Regardless, this timidity is nonsense when an entire country is facing annihilation.
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Given that the Russian economy is deteriorating, that the country is run by a murderous thug, that Russia has stolen these companies' investments there, and that the future Russian political situation is uncertain, I'd be surprised if many companies would be dying to go back into Russia. One can't underestimate the power of greed, but I expect most Russians will be much poorer and less able to afford foreign goods after this is all over, while corporations will see Russia as an unreliable and untrustworthy partner.
Mr. Smith & Colonel Ingram are a great return panel, hopefully they become regular return guests, pretty much well on par, with Mark Toth & Jon Sweet as a well integrated combo pair that knows their stuff. One more point, about the secrecy of the Kursk operation - last years summer "counter offensive, the original plan was to go cut the land bridge in the territory of the Karkhovka Dam, and because everyone blabbed about it, the Russians blew the dam and f**ked up our plan. THat's part of the reason the counter never worked, that and the Sorovikin line, but we'd chosen the weakest point to hit at it and the flooding of the land in that region ruined that, probably, as Jonathon intimated, the plans got leaked to the Kremlin via Washington.
i'm a yank hawk and i doubt Wa. leaked that. If we eventually they/we did, ppl like me will hold us accountable, not that it matter in retro for Ukr but it might financially, ie perhaps US /we will assist Ukr more in rebuildling if we actually were severely incompetent in that way, by leaking to the most psycopathic sadists in late modern history, aka 'russians'.
SLAVA UKRAINE!
Ukraine needs manpower. Lots of it.
NATO provided long-range guided missiles to Ukraine? An alternative approach could be to supply Ukraine immediately, regardless of cost, with the materials and knowledge transfer necessary to develop its own long-range weapons and electronic navigation systems. This would reduce NATO's direct involvement while empowering Ukraine to defend itself.
NATO must refrain from delivering long-range weapons to Ukraine to avoid escalating tensions with Russia. Putin has warned that such weapons, used with NATO satellite assistance, would be seen as direct NATO involvement in the conflict. If Russia perceives this as an act of war, it may retaliate by targeting NATO satellites, which could lead to a broader conflict or even World War III. The risk of nuclear escalation would increase significantly, endangering global security. Therefore, an immediate alternative is essential.
So western countries should go deeper into debt so that Ukraine might win?
So cause Putin warned against long range missiles NATO should jump to that tune? Look at what Russia is doing in it's illegal attack on a neighbour state. Ukraine needs to stop the glide bombs being sent from Russian territory. Suggest a better way?
Exactly.
It's about narrative, not reality. Ukraine has almost certainly already been using NATO satellites. Putin is just using the issue as yet another redline.
Go on the narrative-offensive and state Ukraine is deriving its own data from civilian satellites.
Just more Putun redlines.
The USA would of warned Russia, if they knew about the Kursk incursion. In my opinion.
I'm a Biden supporter,but this issue pisses me off! It reminds me of what President Johnson and Robert McNamara did. Fighting with one arm tied behind the back!!!
You’d think they learned something from Vietnam, huh?
But i assume Comrade Sullivanov is more concerned about having a good nights sleep, and not dreaming about Puting angrily waving his finger at him.
The real problem is American "management" of NATO. Europe needs to stand on it's own two feet and manage it's own defense. And NO, this is NOT support of trump in any way, shape or form.
Good show today.
The British are the worst. Everything has to be discussed and exposed, including all doubts and weaknesses. It’s like discussing the merits of intended chess moves with your opponent. Just keep schtum and do things sneakily, lie if necessary, but overall maintain a facade of inscrutability.
That's exactly the case and they are not even ashamed of it - unbelievable and annoying!!
Great guests but give me a break. Europe may not be keen on rebuilding Europe again, but bleeding out Ukraine?
Ukraine need to put some names on this betrayal
"Anti Putin feeling" in Russia is probably the most important factor. But Western leaders just do not seem to appreciate that.
I don’t think it’s a factor at all! There will not be a popular revolution, and no matter how deeply people come to despise Putin, they will not do anything about it.
Ukraine: "Please help us defend our country?" USA: "Okay, we will stand by you as long as it takes!" Then they go back to bed and do nothing. // In the future: "Hey, here is the history of the US back then. It lists all these members of the government as baby killers. One of them is a president."
The training of Ukrainian pilots for F-16 is organized worse than arts and crafts class in school. USA said they can train maximum 10 pilots a year. How is that possible, if a country 70 times smaller like Denmark can train 30 pilots a year for Ukraine. Well done Denmark btw. It doesn't look like anyone is coordinating this training, as individual countries from time to time tell the press that they are offering to train some pilots.
Ukraine is not meant to win.
That was never the plan.
Is true USA, UK, France Germany and others only thinking on selfishness.. give the Ukraine freedom to use the armaments from those countries.
well it's not selfishness, remember that charity begins at home.
@@RodrickLionheart are you telling me that those are right. Yes it charity, but the longer they take to help, Ukraine me be need
More. Sort if you are American, but the politicians are very corrupt.
Hear hear, great comparison with ww2 Britain re had they been handicapped by the US then.
From my POV as an American: What goes-on on the streets of most of the Western countries is that the poor and minorities cannot expect any justice and the Rules and Law only seem to apply to us in the middle class and not to the Rich and the Powerful (and especially not the Corporations - e.g. Boeing). Similarly, the West also picks and chooses where we apply our "Rule of Law": not applying it when we invade other countries (Granada, Iraq, etc.), where our troops commit mass-murders (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.), where we don't see much profit (Ukraine, Africa, Burma, ...) or where our allies are actively committing Genocide right now, and have been for the past year (Palestine). Still, what we have (the dictatorship of the Corporations, the Rich and the Powerful) at least allows us to "speak" and breath freely - more or less. However, the similar groups who also control the BRICS (especially Russia, Iran and China, as well as N. Korea, Venezuela, etc.) are completely intolerant of any free speech, movement, etc. (Such groups have been controlling every country, more or less, for at least the past several decades). Therefore, given a choice, I'd much rather live under the rule of the Western powers than those of the BRICS-type terrorist leaders. Yes: our hands in the West are not saintly and yes, we are often hypocritical, but all our leaders ask for is everyone else's wealth and not their lives. Sadness....
And the comparison that you are looking for is that Russia will become to China what the UK has been to the US - just so it could stay "relevant". Oh my, how the passage of time takes its tole on all of us.
And I agree: refusing weapons (that we already have) to Ukraine and limiting how they can be used is not only immoral, but also short-sighted when it comes to our own long-term defense and security (a selfish matter), not just in Europe, but also in the Chinese theater.
Slava Ukraini. Heroyam Slava. 💙💛
That's a plan
Well now that David Lammy has been there, Ukrainians must be feeling much safer.
I agree w/ most of what they say, but there is some disingenuousness. "Omg, the rules based order, very important, Russia hurting it!". Meanwhile, they have nothing to say about an ethno-state carrying out war crimes at a rate & scale not seen for decades, WITH 110% backing & complicity by the entire "west". (i.e. Israel)... Russia kills 500 kids & 10k civilians in 3 years, "omg it's a genocide!". Israel kills 20k kids & 13k women in 8 months, using the equivalent of 3+ Hiroshima blasts in an area the size of east London, not so much as a mention when talking about how the west is so steadfast in international law & the rules based order. Israel does annexation- crickets. Russia does it- bring out the bullion & soapbox. To be super clear, my point is NOT "well Russia gets a free pass then & international law is bad"... its how about some principals, honesty, integrity, & consistency. Russia, Hamas, & Israel(& all its backers) must be held accountable. International law is important & is a good thing, but not when it's it's nothing more than a weapon to be wielded for geopolitics & to be discarded at earliest convenience, only to be picked up as a shield once u find utility in it...
As an Australian who has travelled much. Meeting many Englishman and many Americans throughout the world. The English will apologise were not necessarily. But take an Englishman off the leash you are the most reasonable sycopaths on earth. The Americans not so. What the Americans need is to grow a pare and help Ukraine to win not just survive for now. America's contempt for America's betters is laughable(:-)
I was in Mariupol 2 or 3 times 😊
Once again, why looks most of this so ridiciously blurred?
Does it matter? In what way does it detract from the message?
Unless you like staring at the background, in which case you sound a bit weird
Poor 🛜 WiFi at my location unfortunately. I’m trying to get it changed.
its a podcast anyway. What does the background matter? Put it on and then do something else instead of staring the three mugs staring into the cameras
What kind of a Headline is this????😮😮
Bleed Out! ????
We have the UK who always makes the wrong colonial choices and one man in the whtie house who has one pickle and no tomatoes
Putin is is dismissing Kurst, while ordering it be taken by Oct. 1, and has sent 30,000 reserve troops.
I wonder if Philip Ingram would have been saying in 1943-44 that "we need to think of a way to allow h1tl3r to save face and to prevent the disintegration of the third r3ich and that's a tricky balance to find". He really is very afraid of ruzzian defeat itsn't he? I would recommend he read some dugin before bedtime
If there is no rule based order, then the West is free to invade China, Russia, so... this critique begs for smashing critics.
from what I hear that Patrushev FSB has won the political power struggle for now with the imprisonment of various Russian army officers close to Shoigu Russian army. So the FSB is now helming the Russian gov and the direction of Russia's war in Ukraine. So while the Patrushev FSB has won the power struggle for now. the Shoigu GRU/Army is now down and out and still a strong force, so if the FSB flops, the Army will be in ascendant. Putin himself is a bit more closer to Patrushev FSB than he is to Shoigu so he favours the FSB a bit more however he has to counterbalance the FSB with the GRU/Russian army, since keeping both sides weak as to not being strong enough to overthrow Putin is imperative. However the Russian army leadership really does not like the FSB and being put under the military leadership of the FSB I think will be disastrous. since the army leadership might act in a way to throw the war .
🧐✨Merci!✨🫂
the support from south europe is lagable.
Russia: A boutique next to a superstore.
...with an option of selling gas.
Britain was a Superpower, and in that time learnt from it, if you are a Superpower there will always be those who wish to take it from you, fact.
It had an empire, and many condemn empire's but what if Britain was right, it's be killed or kill first to save your life in a one on one battle, same for a Rules Based world.
We sit and deliberate while they gain advantage and power, before long it will to late to do what needs to be done.
Now i'm not saying another empire is a good idea, what i'm saying is Britain sowed the seed with it's empire, we share a common set of values, rules based order, Governmental system, court system, language etc with other nations, perhaps an Anglosphere or CANZUK or an Alliance of Democracies.
First it was Congress, then Biden took his turn. Its messed up. I think I'm gonna sit out these elections all together
Utter rubbish.
There was NEVER any significant difference between Republicans + Trump and Democrats + Biden. It all comes down to keeping Putin's regime in charge. As well as China kept up in business with the US.
Sounds exactly like the USA while Europe was fighting for their lives……USA showed up late!
@@GailBurfootThat was a very smart move for them. Reduced the losses while being the main winner and the "savior", helped to spread their power and influence over Europe and earn massive profits by rebuilding it. And everyone is thankful, nevertheless.
ukraine has also no trained soldiers anymore. only untrained mostly men between 40 to 60 years old who are forced to the front. with such soldiers any war is lost.
Yup. And all children over the age of 8 are now being sent to the front lines.
I heard it on the internet.
@@CONTACTLIGHTTOMMYNo they are being sold into sexual slavery.There are no men left to protect the women and children.
Apartheid supporter west
Uuuuupp!!!
I agree that BRICS in some way wants to emulate the EU, but perhaps even more important they want to replace USD with their own currency as the new world reserve currency, or a strong competitor of that.
FYI, A Conversation with Jake Sullivan RUclips, Victor Pinchuk Foundation
Silly con BS pearl clutching as usual.
Western hypocrisy Russia too has rights,give Russia it due,what is NATO doing in Russian border let ukarine be a neutral nation what is difficult in that must everyone bow to western ideas
Blah, Kremlin talking points, blah blah
LIARS
Delusional
this is a ukrainian problem. theyre not fighting “on our behalf” lmao
"Allies letting Ukraine bleed". Was that not the allies' goal from the beginning? Otherwise they would not push it into war with a nuclear superpower.
ukraine was misused by NATo and never had a chance.The expectation of nato was to win the economic war, but that was lost. So now ukraine is of not much use, but costs a lot. so ukraine is dumped.
BS.
Are you just trolling?
If not your comment is meaningless and not worth the time to read.
NATO does want to help, but they're not reckless enough to risk destroying human civilization.
@@davidl.7317 i believe that your problem is not to understand that in a war both sides lie as lie can. Also very powerful psychological brainwashing tecniques are used. By BOTH sides. If you dont take this fact into acount you are lost and brainwashed and believe the propaganda of "your" side. And one more information: the bad guys are always the others. Dont forget this. I hope i could help you. And thats it for me.
@babahanuman83 BS. Ukraine's allies are not dumping them. Russian military is a paper tiger from all the Soviet and Russian corruption over the years.
If NATO truly got involved this war would be ended in a week. We are hoping this does not occur, if Russia wants to push it NATO is more than equipped to end it on NATO terms.
Putin has made a horrible miscalculation. He may have caught NATO weak, now we have had time to start up military production, and this should include not only armaments but also increased troop numbers.
Nonsense
Ukrane is bleeding out
Limitation is bullshit 17:47