Whats makes these videos so good is how well spoken this guy is, and the simple but clear presentation. And of course, the free lessons and very useful recording techniques. This is such a great channel.
I've tried this so many times and just could never get it right. I figured maybe my logic was wrong but hearing/seeing you do this in this track motivated me to try it again and you've SAVED MY SANITY. All my mix attempts get wrecked in mono, but this technique has saved absolutely everything. This channel is so great.
You should promote the bands that you demo here, or at least leave a link to look into their music. Also, the mix sounds fantastic, I'd be interested to see how you mic'd the guitars/drums to get this sound. Great content, as always! Looking forward to more.
Thanks for the tip, Graham! I noticed that this can also compliment the drums a little - It seemed to me that when the EQ was active, the muddiness of the guitars that came out gave room for the snare and kick to crack and punch a little bit more, almost as if all the muddy stuff came out of the middle of the spectrum. Anybody else hear that?
Wow, such a simple step has already shown great results in my mixes, that last bit of definition that I was looking for. Thank you for this video. I've been experimenting with this concept in other plug-ins as well. I've gotten some desirable results with a transient designer, toning down the sustain on the left guitar, and turning it up on the right.
This has worked wonders for my guitars. I typically bus all my guitars and mix /ew from there, but it makes sense that L/R should be slightly different. Thanks again Graham!
This is a really interesting way to mix guitars that I've never considered before. I didn't think I'd find a better method than recording the same track twice for stereo width and hard panning L+R, but this method seems to create more unity as it's the same track duplicated - sounds like one huge guitar tone instead of two player's in unison, great tip!
I knew you'd use this technique , but I'm glad you keep doing so as it is one of the most important techniques especially for a genre like this that I make.
I try to keep it in the back my head to give each instrument its place on the Fq spectrum. I always do this with the kick drum and the bass, it never fails to bring out more focus in both instruments and gets the low end clear in the mix. it gets more tricky with the mid focused instruments such as guitars, but when you find the spot on every track were that instrument shines and make sure that it isn t fighting another instrument over that spot! oh man its sounds like butter!
Ive been using Mid Side encoders to get width and depth. Im able to track a single rhythm guitar track, clone it, delay one track by 10ms and use a MS encoder/decoder (Voxengo MSED) to generate a stereo image and then EQ from there. I get some pretty good results from that and sometimes good results to when using the same method (without 10ms delay) for dual tracked guitars.
Nice! Yeah I've been doing this and it's awesome. Also, when I double a guitar part, I like to change things up with the amp and/or mic placement. It also helps to get width.
Really good Tip. This plus using different guitars and amps is really useful. I also record two amps at once with two mics each which kind of goes the same way - using the mics and amps and guitars as an EQ. Again. great TIP for all the Guitar freaks :-). I would suggest the guitarists think of that when working the tracks.
+GODSON Official Music Loads of treble! They sound awful solo'd but that's not what's important. Parallel compression and overboard high end make drums in a dense mix. I think this is too much and the snare and toms have too much high end. IMO the level of them should be boosted and the treble cut but that is just that… My opinion.
Otto Mercer i typically agree. i have very sensitive hearing and any excessive treble hurts my ears. but i understand that for what people expect certain genres to sound like (Rock), i have to get used to these mixing techniques... perhaps Graham might show us something we both didn't know.
Late comment, but an external side chain of snare to a compressor the guitars and kick to bass makes the drums poke through very easily without needing a lot of volume
Excelente! Muy buen tip que aplique a varios de nuestros temas y quedaron excelentes. Lo unico que tuve q hacer es varirs las frecuencias editadas ya que depende del tipo de guitarra, pastillas, efectos, etc... Pero el concepto de Complementary EQ carvin es increible. Felicitaciones!!
Nice vid of a nice technique. Funny thing, I played this fullscreen and the mixer columns are the exact right width to create a "Magic Eye" effect, turning the whole mixer into a very clever 3D effect if you stare through it. Brilliant!
I do EQ carvings like that for the guitars and also do complementary EQs for the kick and bass. On what I'm working on now, I duplicated the left and right guitars, set a pair of left and right hard panned with a strong high pass filter and and a I've set a pair of left and right panned at 50% with a very strong low pass filter. I'm trying to keep the low portion of the guitar in the center. That cleared up my mix a lot. I could probably do something similar using a mid-side EQ but I haven't tried it yet. Graham, it's cool that you're starting to dabble in heavier music.
Nice tip about complimentary EQ plus I just recently got that SSL plugin from Waves and after watching this video it only now dawned on me how that type of EQ works, pick the frequency, adjust the width of the band and then cut or boost. LOL a lot less intimidating now that I get it. Thanks
Yes, this is what I do aswell. I can also add a little something. Low and high pass filter settings. eg Left Guitar 450hz and Right Guitar say 500hz. Great video!
this will help me out a lot. I record a lot of heavy dist guitars thanks. I was just mixing this song for Dueling Mixes and i thought the same thing about the guitars. They were muddy and on top of eachother
Over 30 years ago, I had a gig live-mixing my brother-in-laws band hard-rock band. One weekend, one of the two guitarists couldn't make it. So to try to compensate, we used 2 Hi-Watt cabinets, one placed on either side of the stage, and mic'ed both of them (I guess I could have used 2 mics on a single cabinet). I then EQ'ed the two sides differently to try to make it sound more like 2 guitars. When a lead was played that ping-ponged between the two "guitars", I traded channels to make them sound different. It was somewhat successful, but if I had had more experience and advance notice, I might have put different effects (flange, delay, reverb, etc) on one or both of the two channels. Come to think of it, he may have amped each cabinet separately, too, for different sounds from each side. At that time, I'd never heard of "doubling" a single guitar, so it was all "innovative".
For my one man band set up I run a guitar through two fender devils amps and use a delay pedal to get stereo separation. It works depending on the song.
Another tip woud be to pan the guitars to L and R equally on Chorus of tge song and bring it back to Center once it gets back to the Verse. This is to have some dynamics in the song using Panning/LCR
I'll definitely be trying this on my next mix. I also agree with a lot of these comments. I'd love more tips and tricks for this genre, or even heavier. I would love for you to explain how to get the mixing done by Periphery, Animals as Leaders, Meshuggah, Polyphia, Vitalism, etc. because you're always giving excellent advice and making mixing so much easier for me, even though I'm writing music that's nothing like the music you usually use as examples haha. :P I can't really find a source for Metal mixing that is as good as you, so if I could get some more ideas on how to beef up/clarify/widen/thicken up my mixes, I'd be soooo happy.
+Zachary Dial Take a look at the Systematic Production Mixing Guide by Ermin Hamidovic. It really helped me a lot. I'm still struggling with guitars (mainly because my source tones are shit), but that one really took me to the next level. He's the guy who does mastering for Periphery btw.
interesting trick, subtle but defenetly good to add some clarity and width. To add more separation using the same track feeding left and right channel I would have used also the Haas trick delaying one of the two tracks by 10-35 ms.
I already do this for all my guitars... between left and right guitars, and also between 2 different guitar parts. But i still learned that from you graham!! You already made a video about this tip hahaha, but its still cool to see it in this context.
That is impressive. I wonder if a single track would get the same effect by carving eq differently on L & R channels. Got some experiments to go try ... Thanks for sharing this!
Hey Graham, who is the band you are mixing in this? I want to check them out. Great, great, GREAT tutorial that will be very helpful in my own music. Thanks man!
Great tips here! Would really love to hear this song in full. I know a bunch of people have been asking who the artist is or what the song title is. Thanks!
Great video graham keep up the great work EQ carving is one of the best things you can do on guitars it really helps I also did a video on it on my channel to I would love to calab with you graham at some point please let me know
please more tips with rock and metal mixing. ive been learning how to record and mix with your videos because my band dont have money to pay somebody to do this. se want to launch our début álbum at first trimester of 2016. cheers from brazil.
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Great video! I've always tried to get that cohesive guitar sound, but it just gets muddy and oversaturated. I'm going to try this with some of my tracks and see if it makes a difference
Cool vid Graham ..yes there is a big difference I noticed more on the right side ...Thanks ive bin watching your vids a long time but could not comment after Google took over ..ive learned a lot from your vids ..many thanks ..Mike :)
Cool. I give darker sounding guitars more 3k to 6k zip and pull back the same freq on a more brightly recorded guitar on the other side of the mix. I'm a novice so it was just by hearing more than knowing any of this, thanks for the posts keep it up, very helpful.
I'm using a focusrite scarlett 6i6 as my interface and I'm playing my guitars through that, but they don't sound nearly as good as the ones on this track even before the EQ. Any suggestions?
The biggest mistake most home studio owners make when mixing: www.recordingrevolution.com/free-guides/
Whats makes these videos so good is how well spoken this guy is, and the simple but clear presentation. And of course, the free lessons and very useful recording techniques. This is such a great channel.
More videos on this genre of music please! :)
+Sarrgas Music yes, I completely agree. we need more of this!
+Sarrgas Music Totally agree
+Sarrgas Music I also would love to see some more of this
+Sarrgas Music same :)
+Sarrgas Music YESSSSSS
I've tried this so many times and just could never get it right. I figured maybe my logic was wrong but hearing/seeing you do this in this track motivated me to try it again and you've SAVED MY SANITY. All my mix attempts get wrecked in mono, but this technique has saved absolutely everything. This channel is so great.
Dang! Complementary EQ'ing makes those guitars sound heavy and wide. Awesome tip, Graham!
You should promote the bands that you demo here, or at least leave a link to look into their music.
Also, the mix sounds fantastic, I'd be interested to see how you mic'd the guitars/drums to get this sound.
Great content, as always! Looking forward to more.
wow the complimentary eq carving trick has made a significant difference in clarity to my mixes, thank you!
Insane how proper EQ makes a difference. I'll play with this on my tracks for sure. Cheers and thanks for this great tip!
Thanks for the tip, Graham! I noticed that this can also compliment the drums a little - It seemed to me that when the EQ was active, the muddiness of the guitars that came out gave room for the snare and kick to crack and punch a little bit more, almost as if all the muddy stuff came out of the middle of the spectrum. Anybody else hear that?
Wow, such a simple step has already shown great results in my mixes, that last bit of definition that I was looking for. Thank you for this video. I've been experimenting with this concept in other plug-ins as well. I've gotten some desirable results with a transient designer, toning down the sustain on the left guitar, and turning it up on the right.
This has worked wonders for my guitars. I typically bus all my guitars and mix /ew from there, but it makes sense that L/R should be slightly different. Thanks again Graham!
This is a really interesting way to mix guitars that I've never considered before. I didn't think I'd find a better method than recording the same track twice for stereo width and hard panning L+R, but this method seems to create more unity as it's the same track duplicated - sounds like one huge guitar tone instead of two player's in unison, great tip!
I knew you'd use this technique , but I'm glad you keep doing so as it is one of the most important techniques especially for a genre like this that I make.
Complementary EQ carving.
I will remember this and experiment.
Thanks for the great videos.
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I try to keep it in the back my head to give each instrument its place on the Fq spectrum. I always do this with the kick drum and the bass, it never fails to bring out more focus in both instruments and gets the low end clear in the mix. it gets more tricky with the mid focused instruments such as guitars, but when you find the spot on every track were that instrument shines and make sure that it isn t fighting another instrument over that spot! oh man its sounds like butter!
Excellent explanation, Graham. Very subtle move, very noticeable impact in the mix. IMHO, one your best vids so far! ;)
I really think you are the best in this job, your videos are so clear! Thank you for the help!
Wow... That's such an awesome mix. It sounds amazing! Thanks Graham
Thank you Graham! this was a problem area for me I've just tried this in a mix and the difference is amazing .
SSL4000 collection I'm buying it.These plug ins totally breath in life into your mixes lifting them up to the next pro level.
Love this channel and the 5 minutes a better mix vids. Thank you so much!
I feel that the added width on the guitars also helps the huge stereo tom fill stick out less. Great tip!
Oh my goodness! It is 2AM and I was about to go to sleep but this video completely saved me without me expecting it to. Thank you so much!
Been waiting for this video for a while. Thanks Graham
Can't believe how this changed my latest mix! Well done.
This is an awesome concept, I was skeptical until I tried it out but it really makes a difference! Thanks for sharing!
Damn. Even without the Eq it sounds wider than what I can get with my tracks
Ive been using Mid Side encoders to get width and depth. Im able to track a single rhythm guitar track, clone it, delay one track by 10ms and use a MS encoder/decoder (Voxengo MSED) to generate a stereo image and then EQ from there. I get some pretty good results from that and sometimes good results to when using the same method (without 10ms delay) for dual tracked guitars.
Wow just what I needed for a current project I am working on thank you so much can't wait to try it
Nice! Yeah I've been doing this and it's awesome. Also, when I double a guitar part, I like to change things up with the amp and/or mic placement. It also helps to get width.
Wow, noticeable difference in the width. Great share Graham! Will use this strategy for sure.
Never even thought about doing something like this. I always boost/cut similar frequencies. I will try this on my next mix. Thanks!
Really good Tip. This plus using different guitars and amps is really useful. I also record two amps at once with two mics each which kind of goes the same way - using the mics and amps and guitars as an EQ. Again. great TIP for all the Guitar freaks :-). I would suggest the guitarists think of that when working the tracks.
YOU NEED TO MAKE MORE TUTORIALS FOR THIS MUSIC GENRE!
Also, how did you get the drums to poke thru such dense guitars?
+GODSON Official Music Loads of treble! They sound awful solo'd but that's not what's important. Parallel compression and overboard high end make drums in a dense mix. I think this is too much and the snare and toms have too much high end. IMO the level of them should be boosted and the treble cut but that is just that… My opinion.
Otto Mercer
i typically agree. i have very sensitive hearing and any excessive treble hurts my ears. but i understand that for what people expect certain genres to sound like (Rock), i have to get used to these mixing techniques... perhaps Graham might show us something we both didn't know.
Late comment, but an external side chain of snare to a compressor the guitars and kick to bass makes the drums poke through very easily without needing a lot of volume
Excelente! Muy buen tip que aplique a varios de nuestros temas y quedaron excelentes. Lo unico que tuve q hacer es varirs las frecuencias editadas ya que depende del tipo de guitarra, pastillas, efectos, etc... Pero el concepto de Complementary EQ carvin es increible. Felicitaciones!!
Nice vid of a nice technique. Funny thing, I played this fullscreen and the mixer columns are the exact right width to create a "Magic Eye" effect, turning the whole mixer into a very clever 3D effect if you stare through it. Brilliant!
Fantastic! Thank you so much for this video, it's an awesome thing to do with EQ!
I do EQ carvings like that for the guitars and also do complementary EQs for the kick and bass. On what I'm working on now, I duplicated the left and right guitars, set a pair of left and right hard panned with a strong high pass filter and and a I've set a pair of left and right panned at 50% with a very strong low pass filter. I'm trying to keep the low portion of the guitar in the center. That cleared up my mix a lot. I could probably do something similar using a mid-side EQ but I haven't tried it yet. Graham, it's cool that you're starting to dabble in heavier music.
That is so awesome! Thanks for this technique.
Nice tip about complimentary EQ plus I just recently got that SSL plugin from Waves and after watching this video it only now dawned on me how that type of EQ works, pick the frequency, adjust the width of the band and then cut or boost. LOL a lot less intimidating now that I get it. Thanks
Yes, this is what I do aswell. I can also add a little something. Low and high pass filter settings. eg Left Guitar 450hz and Right Guitar say 500hz. Great video!
My mixes need this for sure. Thanks Graham!
Great tutorial, surreal difference indeed. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing. That is an interesting concept that I will try on a current project.
this will help me out a lot. I record a lot of heavy dist guitars thanks. I was just mixing this song for Dueling Mixes and i thought the same thing about the guitars. They were muddy and on top of eachother
Over 30 years ago, I had a gig live-mixing my brother-in-laws band hard-rock band. One weekend, one of the two guitarists couldn't make it. So to try to compensate, we used 2 Hi-Watt cabinets, one placed on either side of the stage, and mic'ed both of them (I guess I could have used 2 mics on a single cabinet). I then EQ'ed the two sides differently to try to make it sound more like 2 guitars. When a lead was played that ping-ponged between the two "guitars", I traded channels to make them sound different. It was somewhat successful, but if I had had more experience and advance notice, I might have put different effects (flange, delay, reverb, etc) on one or both of the two channels. Come to think of it, he may have amped each cabinet separately, too, for different sounds from each side. At that time, I'd never heard of "doubling" a single guitar, so it was all "innovative".
For my one man band set up I run a guitar through two fender devils amps and use a delay pedal to get stereo separation. It works depending on the song.
This technique will change my life. Thank you.
Wow! This really helped my mix a lot! Really impressed, thank you!
Another tip woud be to pan the guitars to L and R equally on Chorus of tge song and bring it back to Center once it gets back to the Verse.
This is to have some dynamics in the song using Panning/LCR
+1 for more heavy rock tutorials. great stuff brother!
The first thing I thought of (with more extreme Eq settings) was using this technique for arrangement purposes. Cool stuff.
Love these ideas. Thanks for sharing.
I'll definitely be trying this on my next mix. I also agree with a lot of these comments. I'd love more tips and tricks for this genre, or even heavier. I would love for you to explain how to get the mixing done by Periphery, Animals as Leaders, Meshuggah, Polyphia, Vitalism, etc. because you're always giving excellent advice and making mixing so much easier for me, even though I'm writing music that's nothing like the music you usually use as examples haha. :P I can't really find a source for Metal mixing that is as good as you, so if I could get some more ideas on how to beef up/clarify/widen/thicken up my mixes, I'd be soooo happy.
+Zachary Dial Take a look at the Systematic Production Mixing Guide by Ermin Hamidovic. It really helped me a lot. I'm still struggling with guitars (mainly because my source tones are shit), but that one really took me to the next level. He's the guy who does mastering for Periphery btw.
Love it Graham!
I love the difference the channel strips make. My first thought would have been to add more reverb to the guitars.
interesting trick, subtle but defenetly good to add some clarity and width. To add more separation using the same track feeding left and right channel I would have used also the Haas trick delaying one of the two tracks by 10-35 ms.
I already do this for all my guitars... between left and right guitars, and also between 2 different guitar parts. But i still learned that from you graham!! You already made a video about this tip hahaha, but its still cool to see it in this context.
Super tip.. Keep in mind that part of the "spread" comes from the EQ induced phase shift..So, test in mono...
Wow, great technique! Thanks for sharing this!
That is impressive. I wonder if a single track would get the same effect by carving eq differently on L & R channels. Got some experiments to go try ...
Thanks for sharing this!
That video was truly awesome
Man, that's a cool tutorial and I've just subscribed. For the god's sake give us the link for the song It is f*n' awesome
Excellent process. More videos on this topic.
Thanks Graham. On point tips as usual.
wow this is a big difference, I'm definitely going to try this
Hey Graham, who is the band you are mixing in this? I want to check them out. Great, great, GREAT tutorial that will be very helpful in my own music. Thanks man!
I would like to see the mix tutorial for this song. It sounds amazing! This is how I would like my recording to sound!
Great tips here! Would really love to hear this song in full. I know a bunch of people have been asking who the artist is or what the song title is. Thanks!
Great video graham keep up the great work EQ carving is one of the best things you can do on guitars it really helps I also did a video on it on my channel to I would love to calab with you graham at some point please let me know
please more tips with rock and metal mixing.
ive been learning how to record and mix with your videos because my band dont have money to pay somebody to do this.
se want to launch our début álbum at first trimester of 2016.
cheers from brazil.
romaciojunior Fala irmão. Lendo seu comentário aqui. Como anda a banda?
really nice lesson, great effect. thanks
Fantastic video
Is it me of at 11:04 does the ryth guitar drop out when eq added? You hear the grind of the bass guitar overpowering it.
Dude you're amazing your vis help me so much!
You're the man.
Made all the difference in my mix.
Very precise - very good.
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Great video! I've always tried to get that cohesive guitar sound, but it just gets muddy and oversaturated.
I'm going to try this with some of my tracks and see if it makes a difference
Would this work with just copying & pasting the same guitar track? Or have you recording 2 different takes here?
what makes the sound unique is the little time differences and different notes, so you should double track it.
If you copy and paste it you just get the exact same sound but louder. No stereo effect.
Cool ideas. Thanks mate. To my taste, I'd turn all those guitars up a few db. I feel like I wanna hear a massive wall of guitars in that section.
Excellent, again thank you.
What about the two guitars are recorded with differente amps, or mics, or even pickups, is this trick still worth?
I know this video is a bit older, but I'd like to see some more videos centered around mixing music in this style.
I am loving Graeme's take on this genre!
Great tip, man! Thank you!
Acoustic...but I am picking up an SSL plug-in...difficult on the 7 band EQ in PT! Thanks Graham.
I just did it - So helpful !!!!!
I'll do carving now. Sounds great!
Beautiful!
Great idea.i have a question on this though. How do we decide which freq we apply all this?
Cool vid Graham ..yes there is a big difference I noticed more on the right side ...Thanks ive bin watching your vids a long time but could not comment after Google took over ..ive learned a lot from your vids ..many thanks ..Mike :)
Cool. I give darker sounding guitars more 3k to 6k zip and pull back the same freq on a more brightly recorded guitar on the other side of the mix. I'm a novice so it was just by hearing more than knowing any of this, thanks for the posts keep it up, very helpful.
THIS VIDEO SAVED MY LIFE.
Thanks Mate for the Tip. It's wonderfull
Awesome tip as usual-
Graham, would you please show us what kind of "tricks" you used with the bass and the drum kick? Because the Low end sounds really great
I see you own studio one 2. Since that is the same software i use it would be great to see some videos using studio one!
Very nice!!! What a difference !!! I will try that on other instruments ;)
I'm using a focusrite scarlett 6i6 as my interface and I'm playing my guitars through that, but they don't sound nearly as good as the ones on this track even before the EQ. Any suggestions?
You are the man, man!!