This understanding of democracy is such a truthful starting point when understanding the political processes and morals of any organization comprised of humans. From the workplace to the family and government, thank you for making this available.
First time I hear this story, it took almost 75 years to change my perception of Indians although I always felt respect for them. Great story, great wisdom. Now in 2021 it proofs to be right as well..... One has just to look around.
Prophetic; honesty and integrity! That is what this man has and that is what he preaches. I say, he is the torch carrier of truth in these times of so many lies.
Long healthy peaceful live Chief....miigwetch. It's a honor to hear the story and the essential value of peace equaty...good mind😊🌍🙏☮💕🌳December 2024 🌠🌈🔥🌈
This was 9 years ago, we need to stay focussed. ❤️ It is now 2024, and it is even more important at this time. I believe in what this man's words to be true. Freedom is worth the fight. Mother earth is creation and we need to love and nurture her. Our nation is divided in the United States. I am so thankful for the videos coming up on you tube with Oren Lyons speaking. He teaches history that I was never taught in my early school years. I vote for Oren Lyons to speak peace in Washington D.C. 🇺🇸 A league of peace needs to spread across this land. It is spiritual. 🌲
Good morning my Chief. My white man name is Mark. My spirit name is Gray Hawk. Thank you for your wise words. I too am from the Wolf Clan, my brother. I hope you continue to live in piece and spread the true words of our people and thank you my brother. Aho.
Thank you elder Oren! I admire your clear way to speak of the issues we all are facing. We only can achieve these problems together as ‚one‘. So let‘s get it on! There is so much we have forgotten...
This speech was given at the 2003 Bioneers National Conference and is featured on the Indigenous Essentials, Vol. 1 and Democracy, Human Rights and the Rights of Nature, Vol. 1 Collections.
My ... “ inner hippie “ loves the honesty and respectful knowledge being expressed here..we must take care of our earth... before we no longer have the chance to. Peace
New NEW TREND ON SOCIAL MEDIA"NO VACCINES""BILL GAYTES IS A MURDER".....LETS MAKE HISTORY 2020 THE YEAR CORRUPTION GETS EXPOSED!!!! U N I T Y.... RISE EVERY NATION.... ITS THE CREATOR'S CREATION EVERY NATION VS ONE OLD MAN BILL GAYTES....PASS THE MESSAGE
Absolutely… first long long term human Society… Kemet ( Africa) The true path of caring is very very old!… Nothing new under the Glorious ☀️ Sun.. Selling land is ridiculous and barbaric!! Ashe’
@@roxiet7016 Yes, the oldest stuff I study, calendars,.. come from Kemet,... and the ones in the Americas came from there also, as the Maya have said. They received the 20 days 6,000 years ago from the Olmecs. my website is my channel also, the index in the article section there shows how the entire world had the same stuff ,.. let the day come
I LOVE THIS MAN'S WISDOM AND INTELIGENCE. For the love of democracy WHY don't we have men of this level of intelligence, character as US President??????
Presidents are selected not elected if only a native American could have a fair chance to be president but it's not like that! The government will never respect us native Americans as an equal! Now we are paying for the GOVERNMENTs idiotic ways one world government is here sad so 😭
Dear Chief Lyons.....I am sure you do not remember me, but I do remember meeting you in 1992 at the Windstar Choices for the Future Symposium. I was there that year as a volunteer in the Medical Tent as I was a Texas State Cert. Emergency Medical Tech.- Intermediate level. We had to put in our request to our head RN which presenter we would like time off to listen to...you were one of mine. In your presentation you made the statement that just about every person that you met commented to you that "I am part "Indian/Native American/an Indigenous Peoples, etc."....no matter what they looked like or what race they might obviously be..."they" WERE part Native American". Now after your presentation and as we were all being excused, I saw you walking toward one of the exits so I quickly made my way over to you. I introduced myself, Nancy Curtis, wife, mother of 7 children with the youngest being 2 yrs.old at the time, living in east Texas, etc. Then as I shook your hand, I told you that I wanted to make sure to tell you how much I enjoyed your presentation and "that I, too, am at least half Native American". Now, you looked at me with my red hair and very fair freckled skin....but seeing the sparkle in my eyes, we both started laughing at the same time...which is what I was going for because of your speech. And, you said, "I could tell that right away, Nancy." and we both laughed more. (I am half French on the maternal side and English, Irish and Welsh on my paternal side and have knowledge of my ancestors on both sides back many years to a great, great, great, great, great, great Grandfather Davis who fought in the American Revolution and know that my Great-Grandparents came to the United States (all 4) from France in 1870. so unfortunately, no Native American, darn it.) I did enjoy meeting you and listening to your presentation so much. I thought of your presentation this morning as I was thinking about this whole Senator Elizabeth Warren/Native American situation and wondered what you would think of this woman who "claims" Native American heritage when she is approximately 1/1,024th Native American according to her DNA report from Stanford. The Cherokee have already denounced her DNA report and said that DNA reports hold no water for people claiming to be Cherokee as it cannot distinguish between someone who has North American Native American blood and someone who has South American Native American blood or even Hispanic heritage. What do you think of this brou-haha about Senator Warren's claim of being of Native American heritage? At 0.09% Native American heritage according to her DNA report....can she claim to be Native American in your learned mind??? Thank you for all you have done for the people of this planet. You are a special man. Nancy Curtis, Price, Texas
Maybe she (Elizabeth Warren) was in another lifetime. When I was a child growing up on a farm in Kansas, hiking along the creek and in the hills (Flint Hills), I dreamed of living in a tipi. Years later I heard Chief Oren Lyons speak at the Cathedral of St John the Divine, summer of 1978, and when he said the two-leggeds, the four-leggeds, the winged creatures of the air and the creatures of the sea are our brothers and sisters. We are responsible for their well-being. He spoke of how a youth, when he was of age to become a man, and assume responsibility for himself and his people, would be sent into the forest by his village, after several days of praying and fasting. He would go into the forest with one arrow. He would wait, sometimes for several days, for the elk or the deer to come, and stand still in the clearing, looking directly at where the young man would be waiting. And the boy would shoot the deer in the heart, a quick and painless death. Then he would go to the animal and give a prayer of thanksgiving and gratitude for its sacrifice. When he returned to the village with the deer, there would be days of feasting and celebration Every part of the animal not given for food was used, nothing was wasted or thrown away. Over the next several years, I heard Chief Lyons speak several times; I had the great privilege of staying with Clan Mother Alice Papineau when visiting the Onondaga reservation and chauffeuring her to meetings in Albany (when elders and chiefs met with the Dalai Lama) and in Boston and Woodstock. These are some of the most cherished memories of my life.
Salute you in every way Oren One of the greatest Spokesman of our time the word is honest, direct and straight through from the heart. Wisdom rings in every thought I’ve ever heard you butter 🧈 may the power of wisdom and wonder protect and surround you always and always in Daily thanksgiving of indigenous centrifugal eloquence and thank you for your mercy.🔥💦
I am beyond grateful for your knowledge . Miigweech. Cultural Reclamation,Has Been My Salvation. Connection, And Web Of Causation, Is The Path Of Prevention. Tobacco Down Prayers Up!!!!
Great points all around, and what stood out to me the most was Oren's description of REAL democracy from olden times.... And I'm thinking, one of the key reasons that it worked so well for the Iroquois was that the whole voting/election process was handled at the COMMUNITY LEVEL, so that all the candidates were everyday people who all or many of their fellow local community members actually knew personally... and a local community is a SMALL enough scale to allow every member to truly have a voice right down to the very moment that each candidate's election is about to become official..... WOW. It is obviously not done that way anymore.. not even close. It has all gotten too big, too complex. Because the vast majority of people on this land have bought into the idea (or more like, got bullied into complying, under threat of violence) that it is better to handle politics on the scale of one massive Empire whose central government is not comprised of a representative from every local village/community, thus not really giving the general public of this country a true voice in the politics that run their lives. (A kingdom, basically, except that there are several uber-rich kings who rule over the hapless peasants, instead of only one.) Our central (federal) government is said to "represent the people", even though the politicians don't even KNOW most of us in the general public who they are supposedly representing. And of course there is no way they could know us all; it's impossible. Because again, the system has gotten way too big to be effective in a way that is moral and fair. (Hell, it's not even effective for those who are immoral and unfair. Because in order for our societal system to truly be the most effective for everyone - including the immoral and even the uber-rich - then it would have to benefit EVERYONE in a balanced, proportionate way.) No politician has ever asked ME for my opinion about anything. We don't personally know our candidates (and the voting system is probably rigged even if we did), we don't have a true political voice, there is a shadow government that creates policy in secret behind closed doors because our "leaders" have absolute disdain for the general public and think we are all too incompetent to take part in politics... Well maybe it's not the general public who are incompetent, but the SYSTEM ITSELF. Maybe POLITICS ITSELF has become incompetent. Well, my solution is to abandon the modern system in every way that I possibly can without going nuts or getting myself killed in the process, go back to "intentional communities" (Look it up.) and start from there. That would be a grass roots project that would take a lot of time and a continual work in progress of trial and error to figure out the best ways to make it all work, and no one in their right mind should assume that the world will be completely run by communities overnight or even in 20 years, but we gotta start somewhere. And in the not-too-distant future, it will become apparent to many people that when it comes to societies and their political systems, yes, The Answer is an interconnected/interactive network of peaceful, sovereign, small-scale communities that all run themselves and tend to their own affairs, yet they are all collaboratively linked together by one common law: MORALITY.
Jeremy DiCaprio, Not so long ago The League of Women Voters had charge of the debates, and asked real questions, and from earliest times there were "town meetings" in an open field or at a crossroads of footpaths where everyone concerned had a vote. If children could understand the concerns, children could vote. It is only much later women were disenfranchised, the Democrats worried women would vote against slavery. I met Oren Lyons at an indian camp near Henrietta, Oklahoma. He said: Six Nations helped in the formation of the government, and had left out the spiritual part. It is that part, that should never be left out. He said, Six Nations participated in formation of the new government. This is how the government got it's three branches of government. I keep writing The Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights are the ideology and the law "as whole cloth". It was certainly not about only what is told in a history class. It was rejection of rule by fiat and rejection of rigid class structure, the King represented all that. Importantly, the immigrants were not English. The colonists were miniscule numbers compared to other immigrants. It was an attempt of conquest by the English Kings, that was rejected and repulsed by the people that were here. It was outside attempts of conquest, and, government by conquest that was the problem. Many, if not most, immigrés wanted only to be rid of oppression and oppressors. I have heard both sides of people who were here. Perhaps Oren Lyons will remember me.
The ancient stories and prophecies. The Guardian/Peacekeeper came two times to instruct and give the laws for the Beloved ones to follow and teach. The Guardian/Peacekeeper will return a third time to the Beloved ones. The Nations are so Loved. This prophecy Will come.
Well since 2015 my nickname by my shelter was the messenger,from little recovery meetings and also halfway and sober house council meetings ? Nothing major but when people really feel your message it's not about status it's about results and action,I still carry this nickname with responsibility no interest in being rich just setting an example for my son's and my wife as well a man's role is very important
Amen. & it is wonderful to hear this beautiful oral history from you on behalf of your peoples' firsthand knowledge. It is fascinating..& role models your nations' intelligence, nobility, kindness, & one-ness w/ the Creator. I love hearing about this. (Yet, re. joining (or being forced to join..) your Native canoe w/ their boat, my thought is, "what covenant has darkness w/ light?" (TheLight is in your canoe, & darkness is all that was in their's.). The 2nd thing the Holy Spirit ever said to me, many yrs. ago, was, (in Hebrew, I believe), "brothers working together." That was after He said, "I am the Alpha & the Omega, the beginning & the end (from b4 there ever was a beginning, to long after there will ever be an end.)
In todays age I see the core issue of the rise of much "tribalism" within the source code structures of our government as a warning , The Tribalism structures the Haudenosaune peoples faced within the deep lessons of there own past history and how they where able to internally address them are a critical example of importance of values held in understanding of natural law in understanding primal human behavior and internaly recognizing the roots of what's going on , a critical lesson our people seem to have forgotten time and time again.
~ let us love, let us unite and let us keep Peace ,and pure hearted, in good spirit, and embrace Life in Love,. my Dear this I would ask Joan Baez too And be blessed Katharina Scharlowsk
Trump? Seeing as he did good for America and the people here I’d say nothing bad outside he needs to learn to be quite and think before speaking. Now Biden on the other hand is a fucking joke! He’s a real joke!
Family ❤️❤️ friends averyone do care about averyone and a believer to also Ben listing to also sometimes I go to video to try to understand story better do believe ✌️🕊️🕊️
Too bad they voted for the same deep state govt cronies that keep raping the citizens of their rights and wealth. For their own gain..2 steps forward. 3 steps back..good job
@@joanmaciel416 Ah'o, Agreed. Trump isn't the answer but he's definitely a step in the right direction. The progressives have never been our friends and they never will be, no matter how nice they talk to us; just more empty words and broken promises: better to stand with an honorable enemy than it is to believe a lying "friend." We Are American In God We Trust All My Relations 🙏🦅🌲🇺🇸
For anyone familiar with the western political tradition in general and the collection of contemporaneous documents found in the Elliot's Debates in particular, there is negligible merit to the Iroquois origin theory.
Unfortunately, the successor to the presidency of nine years ago fell far behind the criteria of which Chief Oren Lyons spoke. I honestly don't know if any politician can. Our current governmental structure is not as the Six Nations advised.
Remember what duality is. The Democrats and the Republicans and the Democrats both work for Wallstreet. Political parties should be outlawed. They both make promises they never intend to keep. Duality works like this. If My brother and I tell everyone we hate each othet loud enough. It isn't long before his enemies flock to me, and mine to him. Now we both know who our friends are, and between us we have a excuse to plunder everyone we know. This is exactly why we have a two party system. Im only a friend trying to help.
We were never 'indians" we as Native People need to remove that word from our vocabulary!! we're not from India!! I know as the millennial Native generation asserts itself that word will be outdated and changed. I say this with the outmost respect to our elder Chief Oren Lyons! Aheehee
Well I hear sourced "India" as well as one thought they had discovered they had landed in the east Indies so I declare the people on these lands to be Indians , same difference I feel its a label.Why not simply use ones root cultural identity and nation in recognition or "The people" It would be important to hear the opinions of the clan mothers of many nations on an important subject like this.. I believe this perspective will evolve over time and I have already seen signs of this on a number of levels.. thank you for sharing
Cody Geewin, ..at DQ University, Dennis Banks said Christopher Columbus was self-taught in his own language and his writing was colloquial and he wrote "agente in deos" meaning a people in with G-d. I heard it there, subsequently hearing indeed Christopher Columbus was self-taught and used poor grammar, poor spelling, and somewhat more colloquial expressions in his personal journal.
When he says dutch does he mean the Deutsch many americans have mispronounced this no big deal. Just trying to figure out which tribes met which europeans first?
For those who weren't there... in the 60s, during the VNan war, hippies were escaping the draft by escaping to Canada or to live in the caves in the Rocky Mountains. The hippies and Indians were getting high together. Karma resulted.
native Americans taught European colazaiton about freedom and what it means not to be under king and queen rule who was dominated by region rule by the Catholic Church and many other religious orders
This needs to be updated on many levels. First; The "first Americans" 1776 were supposedly named after Amerigo Vespucci, deriving their name supposedly from Americus, the Latin version of Vespucci's first name, whose named appeared on a map in 1507. In fact many first Nations didn't even recognize themselves as American. Another important fact is that Indigenous people weren't even considered American until 1924.
LIE. Blumenbach classified the "races" by color and by name. American Is the designated name he gave to the "red man." Amar ukar - The land of the feathered serpent. America is a cognate of emericus which has it's origins in Persia as Omri. King of Israel before the Assyrians captured them.
roger cloud, that is incorrect. Look at the etymological source of the phrase 'American' 1570s, originally "one of the aboriginal peoples discovered in the Western Hemisphere by Europeans," from modern Latin Americanus, from America (q. v.). It then was translated to mean a resident of North American European descent circa 1765. If you are talking about being an American citizen you would be correct.
roger cloud, Amerigo Vespucci never got here: he arrived at Gulf of Mexico and wandered around present-day Mexico very little, and went home. However, he has been cited as the origin of the term american.
When ever i've seen something on TV about Indians get overwhelming thoughts that they are incredible people yet know nothing really about them. After watch Native American perspective on America now I'm very interested to listen to them
Thats on purpose.. THEY (the government) doesn't want you sympathizing, respecting or thinking someone is worthy of respect, while they are still oppressing and killing the culture!
I WILL SAY --- IS IT YOUR PROBLEM ---- OR THE PROBLEM IN YOUR NATUR IN YOUR HEART ------ BE SHURE FOR THE ANSWER IN YOUR REAL HEART ----- BE IN YOUR OWN HEART --- ASK --- BE ME RIGTH OR ARE THE PEOPLE NOT INSIDE ---- MOST ANSWER ARE IS ----- I WILL NOT FIGHT FOR HUMAN NATUR IN MY OWN LAND
As pessoas são as pessoas eles passa que eu compartilho aí eles destrói o pipi com as palavras do comentário do crimefazendo comentário do escândalo do crime da foi o crime foi no universo
I would never argue the man's lineage but this looks nothing like the "Aboriginal" that Benjamin Franklin discussed being in the Americas in the 1700s nor remotely close to the reports that came from the Spanish that arrived prior to Columbus in Florida. Can someone help me understand what exactly happened to their complexions?!
Nothing "happened to their complexions." Many people get a picture in their minds of those such as Red Cloud and others of the west and that is what every First Nations person looks like. The truth is The First Nations were made up of over 500 Nations from Alaska to Newfoundland and from North Yukon to Patagonia. All these Nations had differences in complexions. A few traits did seem to be consistent throughout and that was high cheekbones and dark hair and eyes. There are maps to look up with different nation's appearances. A Yakima looked much different than a Shoshone and a Navajo looked much different than an Iroquois. I usually have no problem knowing someone is First Nation at first appearance. I can see Oren Lyons is.
@@joanmaciel416 “Obama divided and ruined this country.” How so? Sounds like something Tucker Carlson would say. Usually, it is a projection. Please tell me how Obama “divided and ruined” this country.
This understanding of democracy is such a truthful starting point when understanding the political processes and morals of any organization comprised of humans.
From the workplace to the family and government,
thank you for making this available.
First time I hear this story, it took almost 75 years to change my perception of Indians although I always felt respect for them. Great story, great wisdom. Now in 2021 it proofs to be right as well..... One has just to look around.
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Prophetic; honesty and integrity! That is what this man has and that is what he preaches. I say, he is the torch carrier of truth in these times of so many lies.
@Gene Eric … Titles are not the ultimate…. A beautiful souls is..🔷😊
How’s yours..
Ashe’
@@roxiet7016 that’s a cool reply . Yay for you. 🙏
Long healthy peaceful live Chief....miigwetch. It's a honor to hear the story and the essential value of peace equaty...good mind😊🌍🙏☮💕🌳December 2024 🌠🌈🔥🌈
This was 9 years ago, we need to stay focussed. ❤️ It is now 2024, and it is even more important at this time. I believe in what this man's words to be true. Freedom is worth the fight. Mother earth is creation and we need to love and nurture her. Our nation is divided in the United States. I am so thankful for the videos coming up on you tube with Oren Lyons speaking. He teaches history that I was never taught in my early school years. I vote for Oren Lyons to speak peace in Washington D.C. 🇺🇸 A league of peace needs to spread across this land. It is spiritual. 🌲
AMEN !!!!!!!
What is so sad is the govt isnt going to listen and do whats right no more than they did in the beginning.
9 yo wisdoms of ages. Thank you for a good lesson to hear. I pray you have more recent talks.
Always a clear thinker, with a heart full of love for people, our earth and all our brothers and sisters.
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Beautifuly said..tears of joy and 💕💕💕💕
Good morning my Chief. My white man name is Mark. My spirit name is Gray Hawk. Thank you for your wise words. I too am from the Wolf Clan, my brother. I hope you continue to live in piece and spread the true words of our people and thank you my brother. Aho.
🍁A logical explanation on the meaning of democracy and the TRUE meaning of leadership … an example for all .. much respect.
Thank you Chief Oren Lyons for your wisdom and your message!
In 2023 this still sheds light and truth
THANK YOU! May all beings be blessed and share Spirit.
Thank you elder Oren! I admire your clear way to speak of the issues we all are facing. We only can achieve these problems together as ‚one‘. So let‘s get it on! There is so much we have forgotten...
This speech was given at the 2003 Bioneers National Conference and is featured on the Indigenous Essentials, Vol. 1 and Democracy, Human Rights and the Rights of Nature, Vol. 1 Collections.
I mention this just to clarify that he wasn't critisizing Obama's administration lol
@@adesrosier1 I figured that out when he mentioned the war in Iraq. LOL
Thank you. That was confusing 🤷♀️
Thank you
Thank you. That was the first thing I searched on since it couldn't possibly be President Obama.
My ... “ inner hippie “ loves the honesty and respectful knowledge being expressed here..we must take care of our earth... before we no longer have the chance to. Peace
New NEW TREND ON SOCIAL MEDIA"NO VACCINES""BILL GAYTES IS A MURDER".....LETS MAKE HISTORY 2020 THE YEAR CORRUPTION GETS EXPOSED!!!! U N I T Y.... RISE EVERY NATION.... ITS THE CREATOR'S CREATION EVERY NATION VS ONE OLD MAN BILL GAYTES....PASS THE MESSAGE
His prophetic words! Speaks Volumes. Come on people! " OPEN YOUR EYES ".⚡🙏⚡⚓⚡
Excellent. The roots of our democracy was here before we came.
Absolutely… first long long term human Society… Kemet ( Africa)
The true path of caring is very very old!… Nothing new under the Glorious ☀️ Sun..
Selling land is ridiculous and barbaric!!
Ashe’
@@roxiet7016 Yes, the oldest stuff I study, calendars,.. come from Kemet,... and the ones in the Americas came from there also, as the Maya have said. They received the 20 days 6,000 years ago from the Olmecs. my website is my channel also, the index in the article section there shows how the entire world had the same stuff ,.. let the day come
I SEND ALL OF OREN'S LECTURES TO MY GRANDDAUGHTER'S EDUCATION!
I LOVE THIS MAN'S WISDOM AND INTELIGENCE.
For the love of democracy WHY don't we have men of this level of intelligence, character as US President??????
Because the “electoral college” system is a usurped Druidic system to place controlled operatives within all governments.
Presidents are selected not elected if only a native American could have a fair chance to be president but it's not like that! The government will never respect us native Americans as an equal! Now we are paying for the GOVERNMENTs idiotic ways one world government is here sad so 😭
A very good man.
RESPECT YOUR LIFE AND RESPECT ANIMALS ALSO ----- TEARS ARE ALSO REAL IN MY EYS AND REAL IN MY HEART
Thank you for speaking the truth and lighting the path ahead.
Oren is a leader a voice 😊to be heard 😊
I have just recently found your videos and teachings. I love it, makes me want to run for president.
Wisdom and truth. ❤
Dear Chief Lyons.....I am sure you do not remember me, but I do remember meeting you in 1992 at the Windstar Choices for the Future Symposium. I was there that year as a volunteer in the Medical Tent as I was a Texas State Cert. Emergency Medical Tech.- Intermediate level. We had to put in our request to our head RN which presenter we would like time off to listen to...you were one of mine. In your presentation you made the statement that just about every person that you met commented to you that "I am part "Indian/Native American/an Indigenous Peoples, etc."....no matter what they looked like or what race they might obviously be..."they" WERE part Native American". Now after your presentation and as we were all being excused, I saw you walking toward one of the exits so I quickly made my way over to you. I introduced myself, Nancy Curtis, wife, mother of 7 children with the youngest being 2 yrs.old at the time, living in east Texas, etc. Then as I shook your hand, I told you that I wanted to make sure to tell you how much I enjoyed your presentation and "that I, too, am at least half Native American". Now, you looked at me with my red hair and very fair freckled skin....but seeing the sparkle in my eyes, we both started laughing at the same time...which is what I was going for because of your speech. And, you said, "I could tell that right away, Nancy." and we both laughed more. (I am half French on the maternal side and English, Irish and Welsh on my paternal side and have knowledge of my ancestors on both sides back many years to a great, great, great, great, great, great Grandfather Davis who fought in the American Revolution and know that my Great-Grandparents came to the United States (all 4) from France in 1870. so unfortunately, no Native American, darn it.) I did enjoy meeting you and listening to your presentation so much. I thought of your presentation this morning as I was thinking about this whole Senator Elizabeth Warren/Native American situation and wondered what you would think of this woman who "claims" Native American heritage when she is approximately 1/1,024th Native American according to her DNA report from Stanford. The Cherokee have already denounced her DNA report and said that DNA reports hold no water for people claiming to be Cherokee as it cannot distinguish between someone who has North American Native American blood and someone who has South American Native American blood or even Hispanic heritage. What do you think of this brou-haha about Senator Warren's claim of being of Native American heritage? At 0.09% Native American heritage according to her DNA report....can she claim to be Native American in your learned mind??? Thank you for all you have done for the people of this planet. You are a special man. Nancy Curtis, Price, Texas
Maybe she (Elizabeth Warren) was in another lifetime. When I was a child growing up on a farm in Kansas, hiking along the creek and in the hills (Flint Hills), I dreamed of living in a tipi. Years later I heard Chief Oren Lyons speak at the Cathedral of St John the Divine, summer of 1978, and when he said the two-leggeds, the four-leggeds, the winged creatures of the air and the creatures of the sea are our brothers and sisters. We are responsible for their well-being.
He spoke of how a youth, when he was of age to become a man, and assume responsibility for himself and his people, would be sent into the forest by his village, after several days of praying and fasting. He would go into the forest with one arrow. He would wait, sometimes for several days, for the elk or the deer to come, and stand still in the clearing, looking directly at where the young man would be waiting. And the boy would shoot the deer in the heart, a quick and painless death. Then he would go to the animal and give a prayer of thanksgiving and gratitude for its sacrifice. When he returned to the village with the deer, there would be days of feasting and celebration
Every part of the animal not given for food was used, nothing was wasted or thrown away.
Over the next several years, I heard Chief Lyons speak several times; I had the great privilege of staying with Clan Mother Alice Papineau when visiting the Onondaga reservation and chauffeuring her to meetings in Albany (when elders and chiefs met with the Dalai Lama) and in Boston and Woodstock. These are some of the most cherished memories of my life.
Salute you in every way Oren
One of the greatest Spokesman of our time the word is honest, direct and straight through from the heart.
Wisdom rings in every thought I’ve ever heard you butter 🧈 may the power of wisdom and wonder protect and surround you always and always in Daily thanksgiving of indigenous centrifugal eloquence and thank you for your mercy.🔥💦
Thank you! Let us all heed your words! ❤️
Thank You,Sir.
I am beyond grateful for your knowledge .
Miigweech. Cultural Reclamation,Has Been My Salvation. Connection, And Web Of Causation, Is The Path Of Prevention. Tobacco Down Prayers Up!!!!
Great points all around, and what stood out to me the most was Oren's description of REAL democracy from olden times.... And I'm thinking, one of the key reasons that it worked so well for the Iroquois was that the whole voting/election process was handled at the COMMUNITY LEVEL, so that all the candidates were everyday people who all or many of their fellow local community members actually knew personally... and a local community is a SMALL enough scale to allow every member to truly have a voice right down to the very moment that each candidate's election is about to become official..... WOW. It is obviously not done that way anymore.. not even close. It has all gotten too big, too complex. Because the vast majority of people on this land have bought into the idea (or more like, got bullied into complying, under threat of violence) that it is better to handle politics on the scale of one massive Empire whose central government is not comprised of a representative from every local village/community, thus not really giving the general public of this country a true voice in the politics that run their lives. (A kingdom, basically, except that there are several uber-rich kings who rule over the hapless peasants, instead of only one.) Our central (federal) government is said to "represent the people", even though the politicians don't even KNOW most of us in the general public who they are supposedly representing. And of course there is no way they could know us all; it's impossible. Because again, the system has gotten way too big to be effective in a way that is moral and fair. (Hell, it's not even effective for those who are immoral and unfair. Because in order for our societal system to truly be the most effective for everyone - including the immoral and even the uber-rich - then it would have to benefit EVERYONE in a balanced, proportionate way.) No politician has ever asked ME for my opinion about anything. We don't personally know our candidates (and the voting system is probably rigged even if we did), we don't have a true political voice, there is a shadow government that creates policy in secret behind closed doors because our "leaders" have absolute disdain for the general public and think we are all too incompetent to take part in politics... Well maybe it's not the general public who are incompetent, but the SYSTEM ITSELF. Maybe POLITICS ITSELF has become incompetent.
Well, my solution is to abandon the modern system in every way that I possibly can without going nuts or getting myself killed in the process, go back to "intentional communities" (Look it up.) and start from there. That would be a grass roots project that would take a lot of time and a continual work in progress of trial and error to figure out the best ways to make it all work, and no one in their right mind should assume that the world will be completely run by communities overnight or even in 20 years, but we gotta start somewhere. And in the not-too-distant future, it will become apparent to many people that when it comes to societies and their political systems, yes, The Answer is an interconnected/interactive network of peaceful, sovereign, small-scale communities that all run themselves and tend to their own affairs, yet they are all collaboratively linked together by one common law: MORALITY.
Jeremy DiCaprio,
Not so long ago The League of Women Voters had charge of the debates, and asked real questions, and from earliest times there were "town meetings" in an open field or at a crossroads of footpaths where everyone concerned had a vote. If children could understand the concerns, children could vote. It is only much later women were disenfranchised, the Democrats worried women would vote against slavery.
I met Oren Lyons at an indian camp near Henrietta, Oklahoma.
He said: Six Nations helped in the formation of the government, and had left out the spiritual part. It is that part, that should never be left out.
He said, Six Nations participated in formation of the new government.
This is how the government got it's three branches of government.
I keep writing The Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights are the ideology and the law "as whole cloth".
It was certainly not about only what is told in a history class.
It was rejection of rule by fiat and rejection of rigid class structure, the King represented all that.
Importantly, the immigrants were not English. The colonists were miniscule numbers compared to other immigrants. It was an attempt of conquest by the English Kings, that was rejected and repulsed by the people that were here.
It was outside attempts of conquest, and, government by conquest that was the problem.
Many, if not most, immigrés wanted only to be rid of oppression and oppressors.
I have heard both sides of people who were here.
Perhaps Oren Lyons will remember me.
Mercy, the 5th Dimension, age of Aquarius. Love is the answer 🙏
Politics has become INCOMPETENT AND IMMORAL
Just watch what they do and say. It is proof positive
Thank u all worldwide family ok u all opened my eyes ok I do believe ok
Sending peace and love to all namaste 🙏🙏🙏
And to you as well..🙏❤️🎵🙏❤️🎵
The ancient stories and prophecies. The Guardian/Peacekeeper came two times to instruct and give the laws for the Beloved ones to follow and teach. The Guardian/Peacekeeper will return a third time to the Beloved ones. The Nations are so Loved. This prophecy Will come.
I love this guy!
Always loved his energy ✨🌑🌕🌎❣️🎼🌬️🌊🐬🌀
Honored, for this teaching ♥️🪶🔥
Merely speaking, expressing the true nature of the beast...
This was helpful then, as well as now.
I want to meet this man...He was born in 1930....
Your message is clear thank you
What a great leader
The Hippies and Indians back together again! Ahhh! BILLY JACK ONE TIN SOLDIER comes to Mind! Love this!
Peace Equity Unity 💜
💜🌲🐬.... Sharing is Caring.... "One World" (We are One ....by Taboo! Welcome to Year 2021... Thank You Maestro 🙏🐺🐢🐍🐔🐥🐑🐣🐋🐳🐳🐳🐳🐳
☝Thank You! Obrigada! Mesi! Gracias! Epheharisto! Pilamaya...🐋🐳🌍🐋🐳
Well since 2015 my nickname by my shelter was the messenger,from little recovery meetings and also halfway and sober house council meetings ? Nothing major but when people really feel your message it's not about status it's about results and action,I still carry this nickname with responsibility no interest in being rich just setting an example for my son's and my wife as well a man's role is very important
Thank you grandfather
GREETINGS FROM SALZBURG LAND AND CITY ---- PLESHURE TO HEAR AND SEE YOU
Shared. Peace all.
💝💝💝💝🇦🇺listening today, wow.
This is REAL "American" history. WHY is it NOT BEING TAUGHT??? You KNOW why...
I love this!
yep that's it he speeks the truth
Amen. & it is wonderful to hear this beautiful oral history from you on behalf of your peoples' firsthand knowledge. It is fascinating..& role models your nations' intelligence, nobility, kindness, & one-ness w/ the Creator. I love hearing about this. (Yet, re. joining (or being forced to join..) your Native canoe w/ their boat, my thought is, "what covenant has darkness w/ light?" (TheLight is in your canoe, & darkness is all that was in their's.). The 2nd thing the Holy Spirit ever said to me, many yrs. ago, was, (in Hebrew, I believe), "brothers working together." That was after He said, "I am the Alpha & the Omega, the beginning & the end (from b4 there ever was a beginning, to long after there will ever be an end.)
In todays age I see the core issue of the rise of much "tribalism" within the source code structures of our government as a warning , The Tribalism structures the Haudenosaune peoples faced within the deep lessons of there own past history and how they where able to internally address them are a critical example of importance of values held in understanding of natural law in understanding primal human behavior and internaly recognizing the roots of what's going on , a critical lesson our people seem to have forgotten time and time again.
RIGHT ANSWER WILL BE ----- NEVER BE RIGHT ALSO WE WILL DO THE BEST FOR ALL OUR BEST RIGHT TOGETHER
~ let us love, let us unite and let us keep Peace ,and pure hearted, in good spirit, and embrace Life in Love,. my Dear this I would ask Joan Baez too
And be blessed
Katharina Scharlowsk
"The hippies and the indians are coming back together again!
Our elders are blind to what is actually going on. We are losing this spiritual battle through ignorance.
Wonder what he would say about the current administration........😱😬🤔
Well, being the kind, wise, gentle and humble soul, he is a true leader, Whatever he says, it will be the truth.
Trump? Seeing as he did good for America and the people here I’d say nothing bad outside he needs to learn to be quite and think before speaking. Now Biden on the other hand is a fucking joke! He’s a real joke!
Something better than the previous administration. That’s for sure.
A legend in his own mind!
The wolf is on of my favorite animals. Be nice if we'd relearn how to respect each other.
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integrity.
Oren for president of the u.s.
A very attractive man in all ways
When was this teaching given?
Problem is..it doesn't matter...dang
Hippie present ✌
What year is this filmed?
2003
Family ❤️❤️ friends averyone do care about averyone and a believer to also Ben listing to also sometimes I go to video to try to understand story better do believe ✌️🕊️🕊️
And they did by voting trump out... Arizona Natives ..thank you!!
Too bad they voted for the same deep state govt cronies that keep raping the citizens of their rights and wealth. For their own gain..2 steps forward. 3 steps back..good job
@@joanmaciel416 Ah'o, Agreed. Trump isn't the answer but he's definitely a step in the right direction. The progressives have never been our friends and they never will be, no matter how nice they talk to us; just more empty words and broken promises: better to stand with an honorable enemy than it is to believe a lying "friend."
We Are American
In God We Trust
All My Relations
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he is so wise sad he is in the spirit world
For anyone familiar with the western political tradition in general and the collection of contemporaneous documents found in the Elliot's Debates in particular, there is negligible merit to the Iroquois origin theory.
Unfortunately, the successor to the presidency of nine years ago fell far behind the criteria of which Chief Oren Lyons spoke. I honestly don't know if any politician can. Our current governmental structure is not as the Six Nations advised.
Remember what duality is. The Democrats and the Republicans and the Democrats both work for Wallstreet.
Political parties should be outlawed.
They both make promises they never intend to keep.
Duality works like this. If My brother and I tell everyone we hate each othet loud enough. It isn't long before his enemies flock to me, and mine to him. Now we both know who our friends are, and between us we have a excuse to plunder everyone we know. This is exactly why we have a two party system.
Im only a friend trying to help.
I strongly believe a head of the restaurant should be able to explain to his people their place and job, not to explain to his customer.
We were never 'indians" we as Native People need to remove that word from our vocabulary!! we're not from India!! I know as the millennial Native generation asserts itself that word will be outdated and changed. I say this with the outmost respect to our elder Chief Oren Lyons! Aheehee
Well I hear sourced "India" as well as one thought they had discovered they had landed in the east Indies so I declare the people on these lands to be Indians , same difference I feel its a label.Why not simply use ones root cultural identity and nation in recognition or "The people" It would be important to hear the opinions of the clan mothers of many nations on an important subject like this.. I believe this perspective will evolve over time and I have already seen signs of this on a number of levels.. thank you for sharing
Cody Geewin,
..at DQ University, Dennis Banks said Christopher Columbus was self-taught in his own language and his writing was colloquial and he wrote "agente in deos" meaning a people in with G-d. I heard it there, subsequently hearing indeed Christopher Columbus was self-taught and used poor grammar, poor spelling, and somewhat more colloquial expressions in his personal journal.
What do you think of the term First Nations? That is what some say now.
When he says dutch does he mean the Deutsch many americans have mispronounced this no big deal. Just trying to figure out which tribes met which europeans first?
The Dutch are from Holland, known for their boat skills , they weren't the first but came also.,..
For those who weren't there... in the 60s, during the VNan war, hippies were escaping the draft by escaping to Canada or to live in the caves in the Rocky Mountains. The hippies and Indians were getting high together. Karma resulted.
The people are no longer dealing with fair elections. Too bad we don’t follow the Indian way now.
native Americans taught European colazaiton about freedom and what it means not to be under king and queen rule who was dominated by region rule by the Catholic Church and many other religious orders
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This needs to be updated on many levels. First; The "first Americans" 1776 were supposedly named after Amerigo Vespucci, deriving their name supposedly from Americus, the Latin version of Vespucci's first name, whose named appeared on a map in 1507. In fact many first Nations didn't even recognize themselves as American. Another important fact is that Indigenous people weren't even considered American until 1924.
LIE. Blumenbach classified the "races" by color and by name. American Is the designated name he gave to the "red man." Amar ukar - The land of the feathered serpent. America is a cognate of emericus which has it's origins in Persia as Omri. King of Israel before the Assyrians captured them.
roger cloud, that is incorrect. Look at the etymological source of the phrase 'American'
1570s, originally "one of the aboriginal peoples discovered in the Western Hemisphere by Europeans," from modern Latin Americanus, from America (q. v.). It then was translated to mean a resident of North American European descent circa 1765.
If you are talking about being an American citizen you would be correct.
roger cloud,
Amerigo Vespucci never got here: he arrived at Gulf of Mexico and wandered around present-day Mexico very little, and went home. However, he has been cited as the origin of the term american.
@@backpackingonline Thank you kindly for that clarification! Peace and light✨
ME LIFE THE LIVE AS LIKE A SHAMAN AND THE BIG PROBLEMS ARE ------ THE QUETIONS ----- ME ARE BIVE LIVE AND LOVE FOR MY FAMALIE?
When ever i've seen something on TV about Indians get overwhelming thoughts that they are incredible people yet know nothing really about them. After watch Native American perspective on America now I'm very interested to listen to them
Thats on purpose.. THEY (the government) doesn't want you sympathizing, respecting or thinking someone is worthy of respect, while they are still oppressing and killing the culture!
hello
I WILL SAY --- IS IT YOUR PROBLEM ---- OR THE PROBLEM IN YOUR NATUR IN YOUR HEART ------ BE SHURE FOR THE ANSWER IN YOUR REAL HEART ----- BE IN YOUR OWN HEART --- ASK --- BE ME RIGTH OR ARE THE PEOPLE NOT INSIDE ---- MOST ANSWER ARE IS ----- I WILL NOT FIGHT FOR HUMAN NATUR IN MY OWN LAND
Meses
As pessoas são as pessoas eles passa que eu compartilho aí eles destrói o pipi com as palavras do comentário do crimefazendo comentário do escândalo do crime da foi o crime foi no universo
For once I see cann we can clap for,I feel so at least not ,I thin
Hillary ..the great grand mother of America..!(?)
Wants obAma out? What a sad man... tRump came and I had to stand for them on general humanity.
the talk was given in 2003
I would never argue the man's lineage but this looks nothing like the "Aboriginal" that Benjamin Franklin discussed being in the Americas in the 1700s nor remotely close to the reports that came from the Spanish that arrived prior to Columbus in Florida. Can someone help me understand what exactly happened to their complexions?!
Its called diversity not all Africans are same shade?
Nothing "happened to their complexions." Many people get a picture in their minds of those such as Red Cloud and others of the west and that is what every First Nations person looks like. The truth is The First Nations were made up of over 500 Nations from Alaska to Newfoundland and from North Yukon to Patagonia. All these Nations had differences in complexions. A few traits did seem to be consistent throughout and that was high cheekbones and dark hair and eyes. There are maps to look up with different nation's appearances. A Yakima looked much different than a Shoshone and a Navajo looked much different than an Iroquois. I usually have no problem knowing someone is First Nation at first appearance. I can see Oren Lyons is.
He probably has white European Blood in him that’s all
SPEAK SLOWLY IN THE WHITE BRAIN AND PUSH YOUR OWN PATIENCE FOROUR FUTURE NOW
Vote out corruption and incompetence? Haha Good Luck.
Was this really in 2014? Was he speaking of the Obama administration? Because ... if so, be careful what you wish for!
This speech was given in 2003 so during the Bush presidency.
Yea, he is wise..but Obama divided and ruined this country
@@joanmaciel416 “Obama divided and ruined this country.” How so? Sounds like something Tucker Carlson would say. Usually, it is a projection. Please tell me how Obama “divided and ruined” this country.
Is he a real Indian? He does not appear to be
He most certainly does!! Why would you say such a thing? His features, his voice & especially his wonderful story telling skills leave no doubt!
Is he suppose to standing up there speaking his native language and wearing a breechcloth to "appear" he's a real Native?! 🤣 🤣 🤣
My grandfather could not grow facial hair only a mustaches, he was a car salesman Raymond C. Lyons