Sorry that you feel like some of your other content doesn't perform as well, but perhaps some insight; what I really enjoy about react court is that I can listen to it like a podcast. It doesn't require me to have eyes on the screen in order to keep up. You have a good podcast voice as well lol
The dog fence story is so funny to me. If the dog escaping gets him so panicked he literally yells at his wife, why on earth does it not motivate him to like, leash the dog or something. Gets out once a week? Dude's crazy
Also just wait for the dog to come back on its own. Unless it wants to freeze to death or starve it will probably come back on its own once it’s bored of exploring.
I love Reddit stories because I'll get a little emotional over the probably fake scenario but then the crazy ass comments pull me back into the comedy zone.
OP thinking they have the objective view of the situation: 🤓 Redditors thinking they have the objective view and OP is biased: 🤓 NL thinking he has the objective view and Redditors are biased: 🤓 Chat thinking they have the objective view and NL is biased: 🤓 Me thinking I have the objective view and everybody else is biased: 🤓
I love how the real assholes being judged in the videos are the serial haters in the reddit comments that decide to just invent facts to spread hate the first chance someone gives them.
My fav part about using these react court videos to fall asleep to is that I get to watch them more than once. Starting again from when I last remember. Keep making these love it.
All we know is the younger sister is being bullied and reddit goes on to paint her as the organizer of a grand conspiracy to make the older sister clean stables.
Every time a cat has “gone missing“ for hours but didn’t actually get out of the house, they were tucked in a back corner of a closet or armoire shelf, just chilling. Those smug little bastards
@@BloodravenKennen Pregnancy is just being a house for a baby, so that's my house my rules. Siblings are fighting over the house, primogeniture has gone by the wayside, and so the struggle leaves deep scars. Weddings are melding two metaphorical houses together, and the clash of rules always leads to delicious drama. Truly, households are the root of all justification.
This comment is epic and made my day 😆😆 You win the internet today sir!!! E: Edited to change todaay into today (typo) E2: Edited to add type of Edit for clarity -> "typo" (clarification)
Idk why they feel the need to go right to lying. In every sibling spat there’s two sides of the story and the parents have to play r/aita to decide who deserves punishment if any. The redditors are always so dramatic too. NL is crazy not seeing how a punishment that benefits the other sibling is a bad idea tho. But the end of the day he’s right it’s not a big deal
The other side of the fence to the crazy horse story responses are in this thread. The specific punishment didn't matter. In the given context, the older daughter clearly felt betrayed. So ultimately the question is, "Is it ok to make your child feel betrayed in order to enact a punishment?" Punishment is a communication tool. Clearly the parents and daughter aren't understanding each other. If the point was for the daughter to think, "Gee maybe I should be kinder to my sister and I should focus more on school" then I don't know how cleaning the horse stables could ever fit the bill of a good communication tool to send that message.
NL kept acting like the start and end of the issue was "People think that making a 17 year old shovel horse poop is too extreme" and I was practically screaming at my monitor for him to actual pay attention to to the words people were saying. I mean to be fair reddit also acted like that was the whole issue so it's not just him.
React court has taught me a couple things: - The internet really should not give gravitas to conflict. That just happens in relationships. Chill out, everyone deals with it, and yet the world keeps turning. Communication with people in your real life is what matters - people have no enduring love for their families???? At least online people
I learned that people can write an essay reciting what happened to them, sometimes over several days, yet for some reason can barely communicate with someone who raised them their entire lives, nor someone they regularly live and sleep with...
Honestly the only problem with the last one is that I think he should give her the option, i.e. "Hey, either I take your phone/restrict your tv and online use, or you clean one of the horse stalls for a week. I know we made a promise, but I'm going to have to make an exception for this week because of your actions."
Yeah. Or if people are so worried about it causing resentment, seems like a simple solution would be to have the sisters do it together. Each one takes care of one horse for that week. Then the 13yo doesn't get to just "take a break," 17yo learns her lesson, and maybe the sisters bond over it or something
I can't speak for other people, but when my parents would punish me in ways that simultaneously privileged whatever sibling I was having a spat with, it would make me absolutely frothing furious. The particulars of the punishment itself didn't even really matter, it was simply the parents instigating a coup in sibling politics. I would even retaliate at the sibling over the punishment, which led to a spiral of escalating punishments and retaliations until we eventually hit an emotional breaking point. That dynamic might have had as much to do with my own personality as anything, but I still can't help thinking that kind of discipline is at least imprudent just from my own experience.
For sure lol. I had a twin sister and definitely felt the brunt of this-every time I was punished for something I could visibly see her getting away with (as in they knew she was doing it), it didn’t matter how many “the situation is different because” qualifiers they added to the punishment. When it starts looking like a golden child vs. scapegoat dynamic reason goes out the window, the ‘scapegoat’ will be seething mad lmao. It got to the point where I was being the parent. If she was bullying me, calling for our parents wouldn’t make it stop. So _I_ had to make it stop. So I’d do the yelling and the disciplinary screaming etc. and it became a really fucking weird sibling dynamic. They didn’t like it and would get mad at me for yelling at precious angel, but because in my eyes they weren’t parenting they’d already lost authority over me. Even extreme measures from them like “no you ARE going to listen or else I’ll take your phone” nope you can’t have it I won’t give it to you “then I’ll hit you” I’m not coming over to get hit, I’m locking my door to protect myself and if you take the door in order to reach me I leave the house. They’d already gotten so used to escalating punishments before that I’d just escalate with them so very minor issues would get out of hand very fast. All because they weren’t willing to perform any of the punishments on _her._ Wild times. Parents like northernlion with a “you’ll just have to deal with it, as the punishment continues you’ll mellow out and realize you were wrong and just do the time” attitude are very unrelatable to me because it’s such a naïve perspective. If parents are never wrong or they can do _anything_ in the name of teaching you a lesson, that message doesn’t make it to the kids. The message it DOES send is “this is exactly how I should handle conflict resolution too. break promises, be stubborn, etc.” I just did the time and went right back to business as usual because the root problem wasn’t solved, and eventually just stopped. Like in the reddit story’s example if the elder daughter refused to clean the horse’s pen altogether punishment or not.* What can a stubborn parent do at that point but escalate? _That’s_ how minor issues like this detonate a relationship even if outsiders think it’s dramatic. That’s life. *(The shit would just keep piling up and the horses would suffer for it, but anyone who’d blame the daughter in that scenario for the animal cruelty would be delusional. That’s 100% on the parents.)
Maybe she shouldn't have been a beepboop to the younger sister and she wouldn't be forced to make it up to her, huh? She's suppose to be unhappy and dislike it. If you choose to literally keep seething that's your problem.
I think it’s also the curse of variety. I love SAP and love a lot of rogue likes he plays. But not all. So whether I watch a vid depends on the game. I think a lot of other people are like that but with different tastes in egg games than I have. But react court is pure unfiltered egg banter which is the one thread that unites all of us so all the different game enjoyers come together and all watch the same vid
@@huckthatdish yeah, for me it's also that I've seen all other episodes of react court because there aren't that many so it feels like I'm caught up with The Lore™ while other series are super long and it feels weird watching a random one even though I know you can watch them out of order for the banter
On the woman who puts her fingers on the custard, I lived with someone like that. Not only that, she'd lick her fingers and go back for seconds, multiple times, despite me cussing at her. She only kinda stopped when I threatened to start spitting in everything I made from now on, since she's so fine with saliva. I can totally believe OP wasn't lying
I like to watch a lot of Reddit videos because I've got nothing better to do and for some reason whenever I watch NL's ones, it's like my scepticism metre is scaled up to 11. If it were RSlash reading out that window wiper story, I'd believe everything that happens and not question it, but when the Egg reads it out the story, I'm like 'sure that happened and then everyone clapped'.
Eh, NL is pretty detached from reality at times, he literally hits anything that doesn't fit his worldview with an r/thathappened. I mean they might be fake, but I feel like if you're just going to claim every post is fake and hit skip, why bother with the series?
@@nattteothe beauty of react court is that even if he says it is fake, he’ll still review the story like it’s real and go off if it’s ridiculous, the way i go about listening to react court is just enjoying when he shares his own anecdotes and goes off on the people in the post, the series has created some amazing bits
Honestly I think that r/BestofRedditorUpdates has some real gems you'd love, it has some AITA posts but their updates merged into a single post too, and posts w/ updates from a couple other interesting subreddits
nl I promise that the multiple sibling havers with weird resentful energy just happen to be concentrated on Reddit. I'm super close with my younger brother and sister. We got each others backs for real
nah I think most people with siblings hold on to some resentment but mostly you just deal with it instead of using every opportunity to project it into other people's lives.
It’s funny how the same people accusing him of having only child bias are clearly harboring insane levels of resentment of their siblings enough to turn the 13 year old into a Disney villain character.
Ryan, I'm sorry but thinking that nobody would admit to a crime by trying to hack her laptop is actually insane. People literally film themselves doing crimes and put that shit on youtube, he would absolutely admit to that So horses don't actually smell bad if they're properly looked after; herbivore shit isn't *pleasant* but it's massively less unpleasant than carnivore shit. The problem with that punishment is that it's *dangerous.* People who aren't familiar with horses are - very understandably - nervous around horses. Horses are fucking BIG and they can severely injure a person by accident, let alone if they spook and kick her. She's definitely not a horse person - if she's doing this unsupervised (or even supervised, honestly, horses are quick) then she's legitimately in danger by doing this punishment. And there is no 'safe' spot around a horse. They can kick in every direction.
How much does a dog collar with a GPS tracker cost? I bet it's pretty cheap. You don't have to look for your dog if you can see where he is on your phone, you can just go get him. Your significant other won't have to help you, and the question of who lacks empathy won't even come up. Even if the collar is 30 bucks that's well worth the cost, especially considering this happens once a week.
I mean, if I said I didn’t want horses please don’t get her horses, then FINE but they’re her horses I won’t be responsible for them, and then I was expected to clean up after them for any reason at all? It reeks (pun intended) of the classic scenario where the person who least wants a dog/pet ends up being the one doing all the dog related training/care/chores. It sounds dramatic to northernlion because he’s not just an only child but a dad, so he better hope if he pulled something like this his child wouldn’t resent him. But the truth is any child will definitely resent you over it and no amount of time in the punishment will make them learn their lesson. It doesn’t teach “gee golly maybe I shouldn’t have been mean to my sister” it teaches “my parents don’t keep their word so I won’t expect them to in the future.” It’s not a relationship ender to not trust your parents. I’d argue most children don’t trust their parents. OP isn’t guaranteed for the nursing home ‘because his daughter’s being a drama queen, first world problems, etc.’ or anything-it’s just that next time they pull another tall tale like ‘we’re getting your sister a horse but it’s her responsibility don’t worry’ she won’t fall for that shit for a fucking second. And OP might not like that.
Like any amount of “yeah ok I _promised_ but maybe don’t be mean to your sister!” commentary was begging for the exact response he got from chat lol. Don’t make promises you can’t/don’t expect to keep (like his dramatized hyperbole of “I know I promised you’ll never be arrested but you killed someone”). As much as he says reddit/people overreact about keeping promises and abiding by contracts that’s kind of what they’re for? I don’t really get the point of going to AITA and flip-flopping between “this isn’t a real problem/this conflict doesn’t even matter why bother trying to get an outside perspective on it” and “this conflict is too over the top and dramatic it has to be fake there’s no way they don’t know who the asshole is” The issue is multi-faceted, yeah. There are reasons I can think of to break a promise to your children, but they’re all super high stakes scenarios like “you tell people you disowned me as your parent and we’re not family anymore. obviously you’re no longer in my will despite me promising you the inheritance”. Why would you toss around the trust your child has in your word over her being mean to her sister? I have a sister who was mean af to me growing up and this is a really weird punishment. “It’s just a week if you have a pet you clean up after it” “she’s not supposed to like being punished” 1. IT’S NOT HER PET 2. not liking something isn’t the threshold for it being a punishment, I’d definitely file this under cruel and unusual. Something doesn’t have to be abuse to be a bad parenting decision. It’s not _that_ big a deal for distance to be added to your relationship with your child-it’s not like you’ll be cut out or never see them again especially if this isn’t a pattern, but your child just won’t rely on you for this kind of trust anymore. I don’t see why parents should be so offended by the thought that every action as a reaction & children are malleable and will learn from your behavior. A so-called “teachable moment” will be a teachable moment, whether you like the lesson it actually taught or not.
@@Biggest_Of_Birds Everyone deals with different shit and it’s honestly shitty to downplay peoples problems even though they may seem insignificant to some. There’s always someone who has it worse than you but that doesn’t invalidate your troubles, however small they be.
"Princesses aren't associated with horses, they ride horses and others clean up after the horses." So... Like how the younger sibling got the horses and the older one is now cleaning after them? Lmfao
Well you see the older sibling behaved badly and thus was punished completely fairly. I hope this clears things up for you and you single digit iq, have a good day.
That windshield wiper story is such bs. Unless it's actively snowing (I.e. not that cold), you don't need your wipers. All you need to do is scrape the ice off and brush off the snow. Even if they are frozen, just scrape the rest of the windshield and let the defrosters take care of it.
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"...when actually, that's a very mature decision because it shows she's aware it's a big responsibility and doesnt want to take it on." If you avoid taking on responsibilities... you're mature? I mean, I guess I'm extremely mature. Thanks random redditor.
14:55 This is INSANITY. How can your dog run away once a week?? My dog tried to run away once and we only took her out on the lead for like a month until she'd got back into the routine of things. Why are you still letting this dog free roam?
That horse take is the hardest I've ever disagreed with NL. That's a cruel and unusual punishment for typical sibling shit-talk. I wouldn't "learn my lesson" I'd just be pissed at a dad who thinks shoveling horse shit for a week straight is a fair punishment for not getting along perfectly with your sibling. You can't just act like it's reasonable to demand anything you want from your child because they did something wrong and must be punished. Edit: Yo, he just keeps digging this hole deeper, it's nuts. I've never seen him be so obtuse pretending like there's no reason to think it's overkill for a sibling argument.
It's genuinely a completely unhinged response to the situation. Like you can tell your child to sleep out in the rain overnight because "it's a punishment, you're not supposed to like it"
It really depends on what “needlessly insulting” means imo. If it was sibling bickering I’m on your side, if it was full-on bullying I don’t think it’s entirely unjustified. I’m still stuck on the dad buying two horses for one child, though.
I agree that it’s one of the biggest disagrees with NL, but I think that like 50% of it is cause he’s used to poop. Like if you swap this around with shoveling leafs or something, no one would care. I think he basically views shoveling poop like shoveling leafs because he’s so used to it.
Yup, this was the only react court where I demanded an appeal to my monitor LOL. He got his feelings hurt by everyone correctly pointing out his lack of understanding of siblings and dug deep into the bunker which only made chat ratchet up the attacks, further making egghead feel like he was right and everyone else was mad lol.
how on earth are all of you here forgetting that the sibling was also punished for other things on top of just the argument? like i'd still call the punishment out of pocket myself, but you're bashing his take on a faulty premise
I'm soooo indifferent to the horse one, but I feel like there's kinda a stigma around punishments that to make do something vs taking away a privilege. At least on reddit.
Because making someone doing something is immoral i would not feel okay doing it to anyone especially my child, taking away something YOU gave them however is absolutely fair
@@VladOSDGL it's not immoral to make some one do something. Parents make their kids do things all the time anyway, like going to bed and eating their vegetables. Punishing a child by making them clean an animal's mess is really that bad at all. Spending time doing chores is a good way for children to learn and meditate on their misbehaviour.
@@Smonsequenses there is a difference between teaching ur kids doing what is nessesary and forcing them to do chore , parents task is to explain their kids what is nessesary and not force them to do it, cleaning animal mess is not bad , even cleaning whole house is not bad but what is bad is to force someone to do it
I feel like northernlion is maybe being a bit too only child pilled here. Sure, it's not reasonable to always assume there's a dramatic imbalance of treatment between each child. But It's TWO HORSES. And he called the older one princess. Like-I get golden child is one of those reddit terms that are wildly popular on the site because most of them have issues caused in early development but maybe it's not unreasonable to think that there. It's probably unreasonable to state it as fact or blame the younger child, but it's literally two entire horses that the oldest child vocally did not want. Don't you feel like maaaaaybe that could lead do them feeling like they're being disregarded? He does the mini skit claiming that that being the issue in question would be absurd but it might be a small issue that the younger daughter gets two horses and the oldest can't even get a respectful and caring chat when her father sees she's struggling. I'm not saying you're some terrible parent for punishing your kid, but you should maybe talk to them first. Y'know, teach about good communication and that you actually care about them rather than than the far more primitive lesson of DO WRONG RECEIVE WRONG.
NL had such an only child take. He clearly has never experienced this kind of interaction between siblings. The entire incident reeks of favouritism from the father for the younger daughter.
@@TheSpenWPana he strawmanned that people were advocating for no punishment (literally i didn't see anyone argue for no punishment) and completely ignored the obvious golden child scenario. if he has kids and one of them gets 2 horses as a gift and he thinks that's okay...rip relationship
10:30 I think if this is real, we should all tell this guy he's not the asshole, so he'll be smug and his girlfriend will leave him. Thus sparing her from having to deal with him any more.
I just realized that the number one cause of the insanity we all see on the internet is that people legitimately believe jealousy is a positive emotion And everyone needs to make decisions to reduce the amounts of jealousy people feel The 2 things my mom said to me the most when I was a kid were "life isn't fair" and "do you want some cheese with that whine?" And that's somehow taught me that my life doesn't change just because somebody else got a f****** ice cream cone or a pony..
People are stunlocked by the horse story but what about the 29 year old man getting an 18 year old girl pregnant? I understand it’s a different country/culture, but it’s still fucked up
NL, all these stories could be real. There's so much stupidity in the world, you as an intellectual couldn't even imagine. It's a common thinking mistake, when smart people judge everyone around themselves comparing to their own minds and experiences. But stupidity can be immeasurable! So... all of these stories could happen Or you could be right. Lol every story could be fake P.S. Sorry if there're mistakes in my message, English is not my common language
I heavily disagree on the horse story. The point of a punishment should be to teach the person a lesson and not just forcing them to do something they dislike, punishing someone by breaking a promise only teaches them to never trust your promises again instead of making them reflect on their actions. The only time a promise should be broken as a form of punishment is when the action was somehow related to it or is especially bad, which it doesn't sound like by the way OP told the story.
This is ignoring the fact that the only thing that she did that really is worth punishing her for is that OP "heard that she'd been needlessly insulting", everything else is normal teenager behaviour and would be better solved through non-punishment means, such as a tutor for the grades slipping issue as an example.
I think this is a fair assessment, but I'll add that if the consequences were communicated ahead of time I think it would be fine. If OP was like "hey if you continue to step out of line then you'll have to clean the horse stables" would be fair
@@BloodravenKennen While that would be a hell of a lot better than how OP handled it I still think that holds the same issue of teaching that you don't keep your promises by showing that you can and will change the terms whenever you feel like it.
When your dog escapes once a damn week you've just gotta get rid of it man. It doesn't want to live with you. You've got a baby on the way, you don't need the dog anymore.
I like the horse story because in a two child house, if one child gets punished with chores obviously the other benefits from it because they don't have to do that chore. This chore just happens to be shit shoveling.
@@hexlota The younger child didn't DO anything. And if you think shoveling for maybe 10 minutes a day is "hard labour" you live a beyond sheltered life and have no concept of real work.
If a dog is running away once a week, there's definitely a problem to address, that's not normal dog behaviour. Further more, the pregnant wife is perfectly justified in protesting having to get up and help look for it every time. I get that the dog is a valued member of the family that you would never want to lose and its stressful when they go missing, but how much do you really care for it in the first place if its running away so often and you aren't bothering to look into why?
Lion my guy, psychology has determined that punishing people by making them do stuff they hate doesn’t make them learn lessons it just makes them resentful. Everyone is against punishments because they don’t work and just makes everyone bitter. Which is why people in those comments are bitter
I disagree about the horses. Just take her phone or social privileges away like a normal parent. Shoveling horse poop seems like overkill. If you take away her electronics and social life, she has no choice but to focus on school. Also while we're on the topic, why buy 2 horses?
Breaking an explicit promise to your kid makes you an asshole, period. Being condescending about the difference between a chore and a punishment is just doubling down on the injustice with the parent card.
I'm genuinely willing to believe more of these posts than maybe I should just because of the absolute freaks I've met and grew up around; some people really are this stupid/unaware/mean
The horse story to me would be way different if OP framed it as if they were HIS horses. I mean, if you heard a story like this on a normal farm, youd say "tough shit buddy"
I volunteered at a horse stable in college and there were at least 8 horses and 2 ponies. If you maintain the stalls every day, while it never smells like roses, you get used to horse smells pretty quickly.
@@limejarrito Ehh it's still way overkill for a kid being rude to their sibling. That's barely worth making her do the dishes, let alone a week of cleaning up shit.
I think you can get used to things if you want to. If you have an active resentment towards it, it would just alienate you towards it. You need to have some amount of will to change, or else you’ll be putting up barriers to getting used to it at all
As 5th child of 7, I agree with the verdict on the horses. Far too many people inferred inequality between treatment of the sisters, but there simply wasn't evidence of that - OP merely stated what was relevant to the post. Older siblings can be horrible and there is a hierarchy in the family. Unchecked the older sibling gets the better of the younger every time. 17yo are going to be resentful of punishments of course, but they would have been equally self righteous whatever the punishment was. Maybe there were better punishments available, but a week of doing an unpleasant task is absolutely not the end of the world. What annoys me most about the YTA response is that people think that this one instance is enough to make this daughter want to leave and never come back, but that kind of damage is done over time. If anything can be extrapolated from what we heard is that an unreasonable parent would have extended the punishment due to whining and questioning the parents authority, this parent has (perhaps too far the other way) doubted their punishment and has opened up to the court of public opinion to see if it was too much. Teens will be difficult but what will help them as they grow up is more likely a consistent message of unconditional love, even with punishments they don't want, than letting the teen sabotage their own life because you don't want to seem like the bad guy.
I think that walking back on your promise to give a punishment doesn't really fly. The focus doesn't become "I should behave better to not get punishment", it may become "wow, these grown-ups are unfair and not trustworthy". And that teaches the wrong thing IMO. But people read it different.
Horse one was definitely an asshole move, unless you're ok with your kids lying to you, because that's exactly what that punishment is gonna bring. There's a million other punishments he could have given her that didn't make him literally break the easiest kept promise to his kid.
RE: the girl cleaning the stables The biggest issue with the punishment is that taking care of the horses is a massive responsibility, one she didn't just didn't want to do, that she could've lived the rest of her life never doing. The point of a punishment, above instilling the idea of cause and negative effect to breaking a rule or standard, is to instill some kind of understanding of not just that they did something wrong, but why they shouldn't do it again. If both girls rode horses and the punishment was making one daughter care for both, that would be a more apt punishment. All they really succeeded in doing is pissing her off over something she doesn't view as a big deal in a scenario where it seems like the parents already don't think very highly of her and trust me, if strangers on the internet can pick that shit up, __she realized it a long time ago.__ Every kid breaks curfew. These parents probably broke curfew all the time. What happened was they went 'hrm, you know what'll make her REALLY UPSET' and rolled with it. When I broke curfew, my father took the keys and disconnected part of the wiring under the dashboard so that I couldn't just steal the key and drive it anyway. He didn't ground me, but he made it so that I couldn't break the rule anymore. Or drive at all. The punishment has to fit the crime, and this really just feels like parents being a little mean about it, talking about her poorly behind her back to strangers on the internet and rewarding her sister over punishing the daughter. Normally I'd say that they're not assholes, but coming to the internet to ask for validation from strangers tells me that they absolutely are, more because they have already begun to think about how this was a mistake but won't actually admit it.
Yes this. I also don't really believe in the utility of punitive action. However, if it is going to be there, shouldn't it connect to the issues themselves. Did they even try understanding what the root causes were. And like you say, the subtext on the perceptual difference between daughters might as well have been text-text. I know NL was scoffing about some of those responses and seems to just be dismissing anything related to what those ppl were picking up on, and yeah some of the responses are making some very big leaps. But this whole post was really off. The framing and context (or lack of in some notable instances) had some internal contradictions and tension. This seems, well... punitive. And so what is the big ethical or moral takeaway? I wrote a whole long arse response to someone above regarding my various thoughts and takeaways re horse story. So I won't go on. But I appreciate your comment
The punishment fits the crime, she was being rude to her sister so she got some of her sister’s chores for a week. It’s like if she was leaving dishes everywhere so she had to do the dishes for a week, totally reasonable. It’s known in psychology as a “positive punishment” because you’re giving them something as a punishment, and it’s effective and healthy to do.
You're reading a whole lot into things you know nothing about. You can't tell what their relationship is like through some text. I could also say that the fact that these parents care about their daughter's grades slipping, her breaking curfew and the siblings infighting shows that they care about her and her sister. Cause if they didn't care they wouldn't care to punish her for it and even if they did, they definitely wouldn't care about it so much as to ask reddit if their punishment went too far. Doesn't really seem like something parents who don't care about their kid would do. That interpretation would be just as valid as yours without any supplemental information. Seems like you're just reading stuff into it.
@@JigglePhysics3000 this entire scenario exists to larp as a therapist for a different family. Of course we can't tell what the relationship is like, but if that's the case, I could make up some off the wall shit and be fully justified. After all, no one can PROVE it. The way they talk about the older daughter is weird. Really weird. It's weird enough to warrant questioning. Get off your high horse, she needs to give him a bath.
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Sorry that you feel like some of your other content doesn't perform as well, but perhaps some insight; what I really enjoy about react court is that I can listen to it like a podcast. It doesn't require me to have eyes on the screen in order to keep up. You have a good podcast voice as well lol
Second this. Turn React Court into a weekly podcast :)
meanwhile he makes 39 episodes of that shit marvel game which was the worst performing series in a long time.
I do the exact same thing
Saaaame. I'll listen to it in the car or cleaning.
Thats why bits and banter is so good.
The dog fence story is so funny to me. If the dog escaping gets him so panicked he literally yells at his wife, why on earth does it not motivate him to like, leash the dog or something. Gets out once a week? Dude's crazy
Average dog owner
He likes the drama
Also just wait for the dog to come back on its own. Unless it wants to freeze to death or starve it will probably come back on its own once it’s bored of exploring.
I love Reddit stories because I'll get a little emotional over the probably fake scenario but then the crazy ass comments pull me back into the comedy zone.
NTA divorce her immediately
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Tiny riff in relationship, break up divorce and sell the house your marriage your rules
OP thinking they have the objective view of the situation: 🤓
Redditors thinking they have the objective view and OP is biased: 🤓
NL thinking he has the objective view and Redditors are biased: 🤓
Chat thinking they have the objective view and NL is biased: 🤓
Me thinking I have the objective view and everybody else is biased: 🤓
ME thinking I have the objective view and everybody else is biased though: 🗿
Loved the dog story comments, “rehome the dog and get a divorce”. Classic
I'm so glad that the rumors were greatly exaggerated
Right when I think RC is Joever, it comes back
I love how the real assholes being judged in the videos are the serial haters in the reddit comments that decide to just invent facts to spread hate the first chance someone gives them.
My fav part about using these react court videos to fall asleep to is that I get to watch them more than once. Starting again from when I last remember. Keep making these love it.
Literally just happened to me with this one lol
LMAO real
All we know is the younger sister is being bullied and reddit goes on to paint her as the organizer of a grand conspiracy to make the older sister clean stables.
Every time a cat has “gone missing“ for hours but didn’t actually get out of the house, they were tucked in a back corner of a closet or armoire shelf, just chilling. Those smug little bastards
Obviously the answer is "my house my rules." He can punish her HOWEVER HE WANTS according to Reddit rules.
Unfortunately there is a priority to the rules it goes:
1) Being pregnant
2) Being the older/younger sibling
3) You are the home owner.
@@BloodravenKennen I would slot "it's your wedding" either above or below being pregnant, but I'd love to know your thoughts
@@zoom3184 in a way "its your wedding" is a variant on "you are the home owner"
@@BloodravenKennen Pregnancy is just being a house for a baby, so that's my house my rules. Siblings are fighting over the house, primogeniture has gone by the wayside, and so the struggle leaves deep scars. Weddings are melding two metaphorical houses together, and the clash of rules always leads to delicious drama. Truly, households are the root of all justification.
0) you made a promise
The pregnant wife should have been like WHOOO LET THE DOGS OUT
YOU YOU YOU YOU
And then gone back to her business
This comment is epic and made my day 😆😆 You win the internet today sir!!!
E: Edited to change todaay into today (typo)
E2: Edited to add type of Edit for clarity -> "typo" (clarification)
@@americantoastman7296Edit 3: Thanks for the awards, kind strangers!
Le this
"The only time you can hack into somebody's computer and not be the asshole is if you have Casus Belli" NL fucking cracks me up 🤣🤣🤣
that part was hysterical
Counter argument: There's no CB like no CB
I've gotten back into CIv recently and I'd be so excited to see him play some, but like he said it would probably perform like crap
You can tell which redditors are older children that were slighted in childhood and at age 30 still aren't over the pettiest shit in the entire world
Bullshit, I'm a younger child and the horse one pissed me off. It has nothing to do with being the older child.
hint: it's all of them. all redditors
@@TheSpenWPana you'll understand when you're older
Youngest sibling spotted
Idk why they feel the need to go right to lying. In every sibling spat there’s two sides of the story and the parents have to play r/aita to decide who deserves punishment if any. The redditors are always so dramatic too.
NL is crazy not seeing how a punishment that benefits the other sibling is a bad idea tho. But the end of the day he’s right it’s not a big deal
The other side of the fence to the crazy horse story responses are in this thread.
The specific punishment didn't matter. In the given context, the older daughter clearly felt betrayed. So ultimately the question is, "Is it ok to make your child feel betrayed in order to enact a punishment?"
Punishment is a communication tool. Clearly the parents and daughter aren't understanding each other. If the point was for the daughter to think, "Gee maybe I should be kinder to my sister and I should focus more on school" then I don't know how cleaning the horse stables could ever fit the bill of a good communication tool to send that message.
NL kept acting like the start and end of the issue was "People think that making a 17 year old shovel horse poop is too extreme" and I was practically screaming at my monitor for him to actual pay attention to to the words people were saying.
I mean to be fair reddit also acted like that was the whole issue so it's not just him.
AITA for not uploading a new video in one of my most popular youtube series in almost two months?
NTA your channel your rules
React court has taught me a couple things:
- The internet really should not give gravitas to conflict. That just happens in relationships. Chill out, everyone deals with it, and yet the world keeps turning. Communication with people in your real life is what matters
- people have no enduring love for their families???? At least online people
I learned that people can write an essay reciting what happened to them, sometimes over several days, yet for some reason can barely communicate with someone who raised them their entire lives, nor someone they regularly live and sleep with...
A lot of people were abused by their parents :/ actually the majority of child abuse is perpetrated by their parents, almost all child abuse lol
TRULY A GOLDEN AGE OF CONTENT
Minus rumbleverse. Rest in peace 🙏
This isn't Switch Golf
I'm suffering from backspin withdrawals
dog i thought this said golden age of consent
AITA for emptying my bowels before going to search for my missing cat?
NTA your bowels your rules
tbh you know someone loves you if they get diarrhea because you're missing. So NTA (Also, AITA for replying to a month-old youtube comment?)
@@canox6017NTA
Honestly the only problem with the last one is that I think he should give her the option, i.e. "Hey, either I take your phone/restrict your tv and online use, or you clean one of the horse stalls for a week. I know we made a promise, but I'm going to have to make an exception for this week because of your actions."
Yeah. Or if people are so worried about it causing resentment, seems like a simple solution would be to have the sisters do it together. Each one takes care of one horse for that week. Then the 13yo doesn't get to just "take a break," 17yo learns her lesson, and maybe the sisters bond over it or something
@@franplants yeah that's why I said "one stall" instead of both. Having to make her do both I agree would cause potential resentment
I can't speak for other people, but when my parents would punish me in ways that simultaneously privileged whatever sibling I was having a spat with, it would make me absolutely frothing furious. The particulars of the punishment itself didn't even really matter, it was simply the parents instigating a coup in sibling politics. I would even retaliate at the sibling over the punishment, which led to a spiral of escalating punishments and retaliations until we eventually hit an emotional breaking point.
That dynamic might have had as much to do with my own personality as anything, but I still can't help thinking that kind of discipline is at least imprudent just from my own experience.
For sure lol. I had a twin sister and definitely felt the brunt of this-every time I was punished for something I could visibly see her getting away with (as in they knew she was doing it), it didn’t matter how many “the situation is different because” qualifiers they added to the punishment. When it starts looking like a golden child vs. scapegoat dynamic reason goes out the window, the ‘scapegoat’ will be seething mad lmao.
It got to the point where I was being the parent. If she was bullying me, calling for our parents wouldn’t make it stop. So _I_ had to make it stop. So I’d do the yelling and the disciplinary screaming etc. and it became a really fucking weird sibling dynamic. They didn’t like it and would get mad at me for yelling at precious angel, but because in my eyes they weren’t parenting they’d already lost authority over me.
Even extreme measures from them like “no you ARE going to listen or else I’ll take your phone” nope you can’t have it I won’t give it to you “then I’ll hit you” I’m not coming over to get hit, I’m locking my door to protect myself and if you take the door in order to reach me I leave the house. They’d already gotten so used to escalating punishments before that I’d just escalate with them so very minor issues would get out of hand very fast. All because they weren’t willing to perform any of the punishments on _her._
Wild times. Parents like northernlion with a “you’ll just have to deal with it, as the punishment continues you’ll mellow out and realize you were wrong and just do the time” attitude are very unrelatable to me because it’s such a naïve perspective. If parents are never wrong or they can do _anything_ in the name of teaching you a lesson, that message doesn’t make it to the kids. The message it DOES send is “this is exactly how I should handle conflict resolution too. break promises, be stubborn, etc.”
I just did the time and went right back to business as usual because the root problem wasn’t solved, and eventually just stopped. Like in the reddit story’s example if the elder daughter refused to clean the horse’s pen altogether punishment or not.* What can a stubborn parent do at that point but escalate? _That’s_ how minor issues like this detonate a relationship even if outsiders think it’s dramatic. That’s life.
*(The shit would just keep piling up and the horses would suffer for it, but anyone who’d blame the daughter in that scenario for the animal cruelty would be delusional. That’s 100% on the parents.)
YUP!!!!!!
Maybe she shouldn't have been a beepboop to the younger sister and she wouldn't be forced to make it up to her, huh? She's suppose to be unhappy and dislike it. If you choose to literally keep seething that's your problem.
If your views on react court are better it's only because we need the concentrated doses of you being based and reality pilled
I think it’s also the curse of variety. I love SAP and love a lot of rogue likes he plays. But not all. So whether I watch a vid depends on the game. I think a lot of other people are like that but with different tastes in egg games than I have. But react court is pure unfiltered egg banter which is the one thread that unites all of us so all the different game enjoyers come together and all watch the same vid
@@huckthatdish yeah, for me it's also that I've seen all other episodes of react court because there aren't that many so it feels like I'm caught up with The Lore™ while other series are super long and it feels weird watching a random one even though I know you can watch them out of order for the banter
Poster: am I the asshole for breaking a promise?
Reddit: you have activated my trap card
On the woman who puts her fingers on the custard, I lived with someone like that. Not only that, she'd lick her fingers and go back for seconds, multiple times, despite me cussing at her. She only kinda stopped when I threatened to start spitting in everything I made from now on, since she's so fine with saliva. I can totally believe OP wasn't lying
how on earth does a half-corgi scale a 2.4 meter fence??
the way this man looks at you while there is a black screen shows his insanity to no end
I like to watch a lot of Reddit videos because I've got nothing better to do and for some reason whenever I watch NL's ones, it's like my scepticism metre is scaled up to 11. If it were RSlash reading out that window wiper story, I'd believe everything that happens and not question it, but when the Egg reads it out the story, I'm like 'sure that happened and then everyone clapped'.
Eh, NL is pretty detached from reality at times, he literally hits anything that doesn't fit his worldview with an r/thathappened. I mean they might be fake, but I feel like if you're just going to claim every post is fake and hit skip, why bother with the series?
@@nattteothe beauty of react court is that even if he says it is fake, he’ll still review the story like it’s real and go off if it’s ridiculous, the way i go about listening to react court is just enjoying when he shares his own anecdotes and goes off on the people in the post, the series has created some amazing bits
@@nattteo He doesn't skip them though
BTW if the story is fake that guy an asshole for thinking he owned someone in his power fantasy.
@@hikikomori_3708 my brother in christ, he skipped like the first 4 posts in the video
Honestly I think that r/BestofRedditorUpdates has some real gems you'd love, it has some AITA posts but their updates merged into a single post too, and posts w/ updates from a couple other interesting subreddits
One of my favorite subreddits. I'll go on there every now and then and just read for a couple hours lol.
yes i just discovered it such a good subreddit
nl I promise that the multiple sibling havers with weird resentful energy just happen to be concentrated on Reddit. I'm super close with my younger brother and sister. We got each others backs for real
nah I think most people with siblings hold on to some resentment but mostly you just deal with it instead of using every opportunity to project it into other people's lives.
@@VinchVideos nah lol
@@ninjacell2999 I said nah first you can't just say nah to my nah, YTA.
@@VinchVideos now kiss
NL underestimates people. Some of the stuff he says is fake is likely true because people are just that insane.
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Please NL, we can't loose React Court, its food for the bald millennial soul.
Tsss yeah or tight react court or sumptin.
Usually i make fun of the "divorce him" comments but if I was that dude's wife fiance I would be seriously regretting getting pregnant with his kid
It’s funny how the same people accusing him of having only child bias are clearly harboring insane levels of resentment of their siblings enough to turn the 13 year old into a Disney villain character.
dude it's insane. no one online has reasonable opinions. NL is a shining beacon of calm and grass touching.
Didn't watch react court at first but checked out some old videos and it's fantastic, keep it up!
Ryan, I'm sorry but thinking that nobody would admit to a crime by trying to hack her laptop is actually insane. People literally film themselves doing crimes and put that shit on youtube, he would absolutely admit to that
So horses don't actually smell bad if they're properly looked after; herbivore shit isn't *pleasant* but it's massively less unpleasant than carnivore shit. The problem with that punishment is that it's *dangerous.* People who aren't familiar with horses are - very understandably - nervous around horses. Horses are fucking BIG and they can severely injure a person by accident, let alone if they spook and kick her. She's definitely not a horse person - if she's doing this unsupervised (or even supervised, honestly, horses are quick) then she's legitimately in danger by doing this punishment. And there is no 'safe' spot around a horse. They can kick in every direction.
also like. how is she gonna study and get her grades up if she’s busy shoveling shit?
@@SuperRollyTrollyit should only take like 15 minutes a day.
@@user-vb8zo6kh4j For someone motivated and experienced maybe.
The anvil bit killed me
How much does a dog collar with a GPS tracker cost? I bet it's pretty cheap. You don't have to look for your dog if you can see where he is on your phone, you can just go get him. Your significant other won't have to help you, and the question of who lacks empathy won't even come up. Even if the collar is 30 bucks that's well worth the cost, especially considering this happens once a week.
6:24 I love his enunciation of "don't eat the custard"
Absolutely *everyone* going ballistic over the horse story is the real Reddit moment. As a middle child, my personal verdict is get real problems lmao
i'm kinda glad he stopped using the verdict of "get some real problems" because that honestly should be the verdict for 95% of AITA posts
I mean, if I said I didn’t want horses please don’t get her horses, then FINE but they’re her horses I won’t be responsible for them, and then I was expected to clean up after them for any reason at all?
It reeks (pun intended) of the classic scenario where the person who least wants a dog/pet ends up being the one doing all the dog related training/care/chores.
It sounds dramatic to northernlion because he’s not just an only child but a dad, so he better hope if he pulled something like this his child wouldn’t resent him. But the truth is any child will definitely resent you over it and no amount of time in the punishment will make them learn their lesson. It doesn’t teach “gee golly maybe I shouldn’t have been mean to my sister” it teaches “my parents don’t keep their word so I won’t expect them to in the future.”
It’s not a relationship ender to not trust your parents. I’d argue most children don’t trust their parents. OP isn’t guaranteed for the nursing home ‘because his daughter’s being a drama queen, first world problems, etc.’ or anything-it’s just that next time they pull another tall tale like ‘we’re getting your sister a horse but it’s her responsibility don’t worry’ she won’t fall for that shit for a fucking second. And OP might not like that.
Like any amount of “yeah ok I _promised_ but maybe don’t be mean to your sister!” commentary was begging for the exact response he got from chat lol. Don’t make promises you can’t/don’t expect to keep (like his dramatized hyperbole of “I know I promised you’ll never be arrested but you killed someone”). As much as he says reddit/people overreact about keeping promises and abiding by contracts that’s kind of what they’re for?
I don’t really get the point of going to AITA and flip-flopping between “this isn’t a real problem/this conflict doesn’t even matter why bother trying to get an outside perspective on it” and “this conflict is too over the top and dramatic it has to be fake there’s no way they don’t know who the asshole is”
The issue is multi-faceted, yeah. There are reasons I can think of to break a promise to your children, but they’re all super high stakes scenarios like “you tell people you disowned me as your parent and we’re not family anymore. obviously you’re no longer in my will despite me promising you the inheritance”.
Why would you toss around the trust your child has in your word over her being mean to her sister? I have a sister who was mean af to me growing up and this is a really weird punishment. “It’s just a week if you have a pet you clean up after it” “she’s not supposed to like being punished” 1. IT’S NOT HER PET 2. not liking something isn’t the threshold for it being a punishment, I’d definitely file this under cruel and unusual.
Something doesn’t have to be abuse to be a bad parenting decision. It’s not _that_ big a deal for distance to be added to your relationship with your child-it’s not like you’ll be cut out or never see them again especially if this isn’t a pattern, but your child just won’t rely on you for this kind of trust anymore. I don’t see why parents should be so offended by the thought that every action as a reaction & children are malleable and will learn from your behavior. A so-called “teachable moment” will be a teachable moment, whether you like the lesson it actually taught or not.
@@Biggest_Of_Birds Everyone deals with different shit and it’s honestly shitty to downplay peoples problems even though they may seem insignificant to some. There’s always someone who has it worse than you but that doesn’t invalidate your troubles, however small they be.
@@Maltesfilm Nahhh some people don’t have real problems.
"Princesses aren't associated with horses, they ride horses and others clean up after the horses." So... Like how the younger sibling got the horses and the older one is now cleaning after them? Lmfao
Well you see the older sibling behaved badly and thus was punished completely fairly. I hope this clears things up for you and you single digit iq, have a good day.
That windshield wiper story is such bs. Unless it's actively snowing (I.e. not that cold), you don't need your wipers. All you need to do is scrape the ice off and brush off the snow.
Even if they are frozen, just scrape the rest of the windshield and let the defrosters take care of it.
The boomer revenge , cartoon balloon bit was golden
Bro is every human just insane?
No but the internet is a never ending rally for them
yes
posting on reddit is co-morbid with being insane
Depends, are we talking “totally bonkers” or are we just talking “a little nutso”
There eventually came a day when Karl Pilkington retired Monkey News, concluding there was naught from the simian world remaining worth reporting. Some day, React Court will also bitshift into the eternal sunset. The fans will be left with the cherished recordings, musing over minute details and finishing jokes and arguments in their heads. For now, let's appreciate the moment.
(Did that just go out?)
"...when actually, that's a very mature decision because it shows she's aware it's a big responsibility and doesnt want to take it on."
If you avoid taking on responsibilities... you're mature? I mean, I guess I'm extremely mature. Thanks random redditor.
Better than a couple have a kid when they both hate children because not having one is “dodging responsibilities.”
14:55 This is INSANITY. How can your dog run away once a week?? My dog tried to run away once and we only took her out on the lead for like a month until she'd got back into the routine of things. Why are you still letting this dog free roam?
30:38 probably my favorite NL bit of all time
A historic moment in NL clip history
love these NL. Please continue picking it up every few months. Plus two
That horse take is the hardest I've ever disagreed with NL. That's a cruel and unusual punishment for typical sibling shit-talk. I wouldn't "learn my lesson" I'd just be pissed at a dad who thinks shoveling horse shit for a week straight is a fair punishment for not getting along perfectly with your sibling.
You can't just act like it's reasonable to demand anything you want from your child because they did something wrong and must be punished.
Edit: Yo, he just keeps digging this hole deeper, it's nuts. I've never seen him be so obtuse pretending like there's no reason to think it's overkill for a sibling argument.
It's genuinely a completely unhinged response to the situation. Like you can tell your child to sleep out in the rain overnight because "it's a punishment, you're not supposed to like it"
It really depends on what “needlessly insulting” means imo. If it was sibling bickering I’m on your side, if it was full-on bullying I don’t think it’s entirely unjustified. I’m still stuck on the dad buying two horses for one child, though.
I agree that it’s one of the biggest disagrees with NL, but I think that like 50% of it is cause he’s used to poop. Like if you swap this around with shoveling leafs or something, no one would care. I think he basically views shoveling poop like shoveling leafs because he’s so used to it.
Yup, this was the only react court where I demanded an appeal to my monitor LOL. He got his feelings hurt by everyone correctly pointing out his lack of understanding of siblings and dug deep into the bunker which only made chat ratchet up the attacks, further making egghead feel like he was right and everyone else was mad lol.
how on earth are all of you here forgetting that the sibling was also punished for other things on top of just the argument?
like i'd still call the punishment out of pocket myself, but you're bashing his take on a faulty premise
I'm soooo indifferent to the horse one, but I feel like there's kinda a stigma around punishments that to make do something vs taking away a privilege. At least on reddit.
Because making someone doing something is immoral i would not feel okay doing it to anyone especially my child, taking away something YOU gave them however is absolutely fair
@@VladOSDGL but by making them give you their things, you’re also forcing them to do something they don’t want to do
@@nightripper799 welp trying to pretend its the same thing didnt work for me :D
@@VladOSDGL it's not immoral to make some one do something. Parents make their kids do things all the time anyway, like going to bed and eating their vegetables. Punishing a child by making them clean an animal's mess is really that bad at all. Spending time doing chores is a good way for children to learn and meditate on their misbehaviour.
@@Smonsequenses there is a difference between teaching ur kids doing what is nessesary and forcing them to do chore , parents task is to explain their kids what is nessesary and not force them to do it, cleaning animal mess is not bad , even cleaning whole house is not bad but what is bad is to force someone to do it
NL thinking that only children are normal is such an only child take.
By far my favorite of your content, NL. Thank you for doing this again.
please keep doing react court omg. ive been watching the old episodes on repeat to go to sleep
I feel like northernlion is maybe being a bit too only child pilled here. Sure, it's not reasonable to always assume there's a dramatic imbalance of treatment between each child. But It's TWO HORSES. And he called the older one princess. Like-I get golden child is one of those reddit terms that are wildly popular on the site because most of them have issues caused in early development but maybe it's not unreasonable to think that there.
It's probably unreasonable to state it as fact or blame the younger child, but it's literally two entire horses that the oldest child vocally did not want. Don't you feel like maaaaaybe that could lead do them feeling like they're being disregarded? He does the mini skit claiming that that being the issue in question would be absurd but it might be a small issue that the younger daughter gets two horses and the oldest can't even get a respectful and caring chat when her father sees she's struggling.
I'm not saying you're some terrible parent for punishing your kid, but you should maybe talk to them first. Y'know, teach about good communication and that you actually care about them rather than than the far more primitive lesson of DO WRONG RECEIVE WRONG.
Northern lion being a only child doesn't get having siblings
the horse bit was truly unhinged 10/10
NL had such an only child take. He clearly has never experienced this kind of interaction between siblings. The entire incident reeks of favouritism from the father for the younger daughter.
@@TheSpenWPana he strawmanned that people were advocating for no punishment (literally i didn't see anyone argue for no punishment) and completely ignored the obvious golden child scenario. if he has kids and one of them gets 2 horses as a gift and he thinks that's okay...rip relationship
I love watching NL because I keep learning fun phrases like "casus belli"
10:30 I think if this is real, we should all tell this guy he's not the asshole, so he'll be smug and his girlfriend will leave him. Thus sparing her from having to deal with him any more.
The nervous poops are real, man. Unlike the rumors of react court’s demise, which are greatly exaggerated.
Wake up honey, the rumors of AITAs demise weren’t greatly exaggerated
I just realized that the number one cause of the insanity we all see on the internet is that people legitimately believe jealousy is a positive emotion And everyone needs to make decisions to reduce the amounts of jealousy people feel
The 2 things my mom said to me the most when I was a kid were "life isn't fair" and "do you want some cheese with that whine?"
And that's somehow taught me that my life doesn't change just because somebody else got a f****** ice cream cone or a pony..
Ngl it’s a little wild that dealing with literal horse shit is supposed to be less bad than taking a phone away for a week.
AITA is the best ADHD background NL content
YES ITS BACK. thank you ryan i like these a lot
People are stunlocked by the horse story but what about the 29 year old man getting an 18 year old girl pregnant? I understand it’s a different country/culture, but it’s still fucked up
NL, all these stories could be real. There's so much stupidity in the world, you as an intellectual couldn't even imagine. It's a common thinking mistake, when smart people judge everyone around themselves comparing to their own minds and experiences. But stupidity can be immeasurable! So... all of these stories could happen
Or you could be right. Lol every story could be fake
P.S. Sorry if there're mistakes in my message, English is not my common language
I heavily disagree on the horse story. The point of a punishment should be to teach the person a lesson and not just forcing them to do something they dislike, punishing someone by breaking a promise only teaches them to never trust your promises again instead of making them reflect on their actions. The only time a promise should be broken as a form of punishment is when the action was somehow related to it or is especially bad, which it doesn't sound like by the way OP told the story.
This is ignoring the fact that the only thing that she did that really is worth punishing her for is that OP "heard that she'd been needlessly insulting", everything else is normal teenager behaviour and would be better solved through non-punishment means, such as a tutor for the grades slipping issue as an example.
I think this is a fair assessment, but I'll add that if the consequences were communicated ahead of time I think it would be fine. If OP was like "hey if you continue to step out of line then you'll have to clean the horse stables" would be fair
@@BloodravenKennen While that would be a hell of a lot better than how OP handled it I still think that holds the same issue of teaching that you don't keep your promises by showing that you can and will change the terms whenever you feel like it.
@@superpotatogod making a 17 year old go to a tutor is absolutely a punishment lol.
@@StFido Well, at least it would be helping solve the root problem.
the boomer fantasy bit was *chef's kiss
When your dog escapes once a damn week you've just gotta get rid of it man. It doesn't want to live with you. You've got a baby on the way, you don't need the dog anymore.
+2
Once again Ryan proving he is a normal human with rational thoughts unlike Redditors and Twitch Chat.
Also I had Causus Belly to believe the the rumors of react court's demise were true
I like the horse story because in a two child house, if one child gets punished with chores obviously the other benefits from it because they don't have to do that chore. This chore just happens to be shit shoveling.
@@hexlota The younger child didn't DO anything. And if you think shoveling for maybe 10 minutes a day is "hard labour" you live a beyond sheltered life and have no concept of real work.
Yeah but theyre specifically her horses and her responsibility. the parents shouldnt have bought two horses to begin with tbh
If a dog is running away once a week, there's definitely a problem to address, that's not normal dog behaviour. Further more, the pregnant wife is perfectly justified in protesting having to get up and help look for it every time. I get that the dog is a valued member of the family that you would never want to lose and its stressful when they go missing, but how much do you really care for it in the first place if its running away so often and you aren't bothering to look into why?
Lion my guy, psychology has determined that punishing people by making them do stuff they hate doesn’t make them learn lessons it just makes them resentful. Everyone is against punishments because they don’t work and just makes everyone bitter. Which is why people in those comments are bitter
AITA is like synthetic anecdote injections. NL getting to talk about insane real situations he’d never see in the wild.
17:20 "you said bitch?"
tons of horrendous insane takes baldo, love it
I disagree about the horses. Just take her phone or social privileges away like a normal parent. Shoveling horse poop seems like overkill. If you take away her electronics and social life, she has no choice but to focus on school.
Also while we're on the topic, why buy 2 horses?
Breaking an explicit promise to your kid makes you an asshole, period. Being condescending about the difference between a chore and a punishment is just doubling down on the injustice with the parent card.
I'm genuinely willing to believe more of these posts than maybe I should just because of the absolute freaks I've met and grew up around; some people really are this stupid/unaware/mean
From the one you can tell he was an only child
The horse story to me would be way different if OP framed it as if they were HIS horses. I mean, if you heard a story like this on a normal farm, youd say "tough shit buddy"
Bad horse take is bad. Big NL L
NL is so dad pilled on the punishment one lmao
I volunteered at a horse stable in college and there were at least 8 horses and 2 ponies. If you maintain the stalls every day, while it never smells like roses, you get used to horse smells pretty quickly.
Exactly, people overreact to doing something unpleasant. A bad smell is not torture
@@limejarrito Ehh it's still way overkill for a kid being rude to their sibling. That's barely worth making her do the dishes, let alone a week of cleaning up shit.
I think you can get used to things if you want to. If you have an active resentment towards it, it would just alienate you towards it. You need to have some amount of will to change, or else you’ll be putting up barriers to getting used to it at all
As 5th child of 7, I agree with the verdict on the horses. Far too many people inferred inequality between treatment of the sisters, but there simply wasn't evidence of that - OP merely stated what was relevant to the post.
Older siblings can be horrible and there is a hierarchy in the family. Unchecked the older sibling gets the better of the younger every time. 17yo are going to be resentful of punishments of course, but they would have been equally self righteous whatever the punishment was. Maybe there were better punishments available, but a week of doing an unpleasant task is absolutely not the end of the world.
What annoys me most about the YTA response is that people think that this one instance is enough to make this daughter want to leave and never come back, but that kind of damage is done over time. If anything can be extrapolated from what we heard is that an unreasonable parent would have extended the punishment due to whining and questioning the parents authority, this parent has (perhaps too far the other way) doubted their punishment and has opened up to the court of public opinion to see if it was too much. Teens will be difficult but what will help them as they grow up is more likely a consistent message of unconditional love, even with punishments they don't want, than letting the teen sabotage their own life because you don't want to seem like the bad guy.
what this guy said
Comments on the last one are treating it like a fucking 2000s Disney made-for-TV movie
AITA for coming from the future and knowing your father?
I think that walking back on your promise to give a punishment doesn't really fly. The focus doesn't become "I should behave better to not get punishment", it may become "wow, these grown-ups are unfair and not trustworthy". And that teaches the wrong thing IMO. But people read it different.
The horse story was some rich people bullshit
React court is NL's best content and its not even close
Horse one was definitely an asshole move, unless you're ok with your kids lying to you, because that's exactly what that punishment is gonna bring.
There's a million other punishments he could have given her that didn't make him literally break the easiest kept promise to his kid.
Hey NL, you're pretty funny for an old guy
"I don't even know what a heeler is."
Some of you haven't watched Bluey and it shows
RE: the girl cleaning the stables
The biggest issue with the punishment is that taking care of the horses is a massive responsibility, one she didn't just didn't want to do, that she could've lived the rest of her life never doing. The point of a punishment, above instilling the idea of cause and negative effect to breaking a rule or standard, is to instill some kind of understanding of not just that they did something wrong, but why they shouldn't do it again. If both girls rode horses and the punishment was making one daughter care for both, that would be a more apt punishment. All they really succeeded in doing is pissing her off over something she doesn't view as a big deal in a scenario where it seems like the parents already don't think very highly of her and trust me, if strangers on the internet can pick that shit up, __she realized it a long time ago.__
Every kid breaks curfew. These parents probably broke curfew all the time. What happened was they went 'hrm, you know what'll make her REALLY UPSET' and rolled with it. When I broke curfew, my father took the keys and disconnected part of the wiring under the dashboard so that I couldn't just steal the key and drive it anyway. He didn't ground me, but he made it so that I couldn't break the rule anymore. Or drive at all. The punishment has to fit the crime, and this really just feels like parents being a little mean about it, talking about her poorly behind her back to strangers on the internet and rewarding her sister over punishing the daughter. Normally I'd say that they're not assholes, but coming to the internet to ask for validation from strangers tells me that they absolutely are, more because they have already begun to think about how this was a mistake but won't actually admit it.
Yes this. I also don't really believe in the utility of punitive action. However, if it is going to be there, shouldn't it connect to the issues themselves. Did they even try understanding what the root causes were.
And like you say, the subtext on the perceptual difference between daughters might as well have been text-text. I know NL was scoffing about some of those responses and seems to just be dismissing anything related to what those ppl were picking up on, and yeah some of the responses are making some very big leaps.
But this whole post was really off. The framing and context (or lack of in some notable instances) had some internal contradictions and tension.
This seems, well... punitive. And so what is the big ethical or moral takeaway? I wrote a whole long arse response to someone above regarding my various thoughts and takeaways re horse story. So I won't go on. But I appreciate your comment
The punishment fits the crime, she was being rude to her sister so she got some of her sister’s chores for a week. It’s like if she was leaving dishes everywhere so she had to do the dishes for a week, totally reasonable. It’s known in psychology as a “positive punishment” because you’re giving them something as a punishment, and it’s effective and healthy to do.
You're reading a whole lot into things you know nothing about. You can't tell what their relationship is like through some text. I could also say that the fact that these parents care about their daughter's grades slipping, her breaking curfew and the siblings infighting shows that they care about her and her sister. Cause if they didn't care they wouldn't care to punish her for it and even if they did, they definitely wouldn't care about it so much as to ask reddit if their punishment went too far. Doesn't really seem like something parents who don't care about their kid would do.
That interpretation would be just as valid as yours without any supplemental information. Seems like you're just reading stuff into it.
@@JigglePhysics3000 this entire scenario exists to larp as a therapist for a different family. Of course we can't tell what the relationship is like, but if that's the case, I could make up some off the wall shit and be fully justified. After all, no one can PROVE it.
The way they talk about the older daughter is weird. Really weird. It's weird enough to warrant questioning. Get off your high horse, she needs to give him a bath.
@@ReverendLeRoux see but that's what I mean. I didn't feel at all like they were talking weirdly about the older daughter.
So the rumors of react court were highly exaggerated i guess? Btw i love this
If you come from a family rich enough to just buy 2 horses for fun, maybe you do need to experience shoveling some poop.
Rumour court is back! Time to demise exaggerations!
Please Northernlion, i need more React Court!!
what if you trained an a.i to learn morals exclusively off of AITA.