BANDS THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN BIGGER: Darkest Hour, Man Overboard, Snapcase, The Starting Line
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- Опубликовано: 9 дек 2018
- Five more bands that should've been been bigger: Darkest Hour, Man Overboard, Brain Drill, and The Starting Line
- How Darkest Hour pioneered the fusion of hardcore and Swedish death metal ala At The Gates and Dismember (and Mike Schleibaum's roots in the DC hardcore scene with his old band Battery)
- How Man Overboard had huge hype coming off their "Defend Pop Punk" era but seemed to plateau shortly after (and Waterparks blew up)
- How Snapcase was probably the biggest 90s hardcore band at one point, and why I hope they're the next band that hypecore kids latch on to (they do sound a LOT like Turnstile)
- Why The Starting Line never got bigger after "Say It Like You Mean It" (and my thoughts on Kenny Vasoli's new band Vacationers)
- How Brain Drill's brand of crazy technical death metal blew my mind back in the Myspace days (and Lord Marco, if you're watching this... hi!)
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The Punk Rock MBA if you have never heard the song eclipse by darkest hour give it a listen, it was a pretty bad ass song. If you get this message and listen to it, let me know what you think
The Punk Rock MBA and if you ever can make a video about suicide silence
Darkest hour is still active, my old drummer plays for them now, Travis Orbin (periphery, skyeatsairplane) and pretty sure their signed to Sumerian records.
They also wrote the theme song for the Washington capitals. Also also, snapcase is AMAZING! I’m so glad you did something about them. Designs for automotion was always on play in my car when I was younger. I still come back to that album once or twice a year for a period of time.
I thought Covalescence by Darkest Hour was a good ol' fashion good time.
So glad to see Snapcase being mentioned. Progression through unlearning is one of my favourite albums ever, I still listen to it regularly after all these years.
I love Design for Automation the most, but that's my #2.
Me too. Zombie Prescription is among my all time favourites. Whenever I get the hardcore mood it's usually Progression through unlearning, the shape of punk to come, mata leao and some Satanic Surfers for good measure.
Loved the vocals of Snapcase. Just yelling into the mic, no excessive growls or other shit. It was more of that primal type hardcore feel for me.
Something about their singer's cadence is just so spot on. It's hard to explain, but he just perfectly phrases his vocals along with the song like few singers can.
They are one of the biggest tragedies in hardcore. Snapcase should have been huge like bigger than ETID. The could have been the biggest thing hardcore next to hatebreed at the time!
Huge SNAPCASE fan here, got to see them with BoySetsFire once
I agree, I've always been drawn to a great vocalist that seems like they shouldn't sing.
End transmission was a dud of a record and killed them
Darkest Hour bridged genres, and got a lot of hardcore kids into metal.
The drumming always impressed me on all of their albums.
Darkest Hour is so underrated. Undoing Ruin is a fantastic album and very uplifting.
Please do a video on Set Your Goals, they should have been and were heading towards breaking through.
Snapcase and Darkest Hour are both amazing bands. Luckily I got to see Snapcase several times and you mentioned 38 year olds, well that’s me!!
thumbs up for Set Your Goals!
Backed! I think this band changed the game for punk rock in the mid 2000's and never get the credit they deserve! There would be no Wonder Years or Transit or anything like that if it weren't for them.
Robert Lanterman I totally agree.
And their set backs were also not entirely avoidable or even their fault.
I keep hoping that one day they will announce some new plans but right now it seems like they are just gonna keep doing one off shows and festivals.
Set your goals is fucking dope
Syg do it!
Hey man! Haha thanks for the shout out! For those of you interested Jeff Hughell (bassist of brain drill) and myself are still currently playing music together. Check out my channel for more info!
Marco appears!
this is beautifull brudder
Marco!! Your amazing man!
I'm from southern oregon.. I remember hearing you were from around here I was super stoked haha
Hey dude thanks for supporting my band BRAIN DRILL. If you didn't know we released a new album in 2016 entitled BOUNDLESS OBSCENITY. You can download it on our band camp page. There is also a music video for it on RUclips. Thanks again for the shout out and spread the word if you like.
-Dylan Ruskin
Founding member
Thanks for watching!
lol so you're the one guy he's talking about
@@WeWereHereDVD exactly what I was thinking lmao
@@WeWereHereDVD the majority of the past members that have left have done so as their own choice. I can't force anyone to stay. I tried as hard as I could to keep the original line up but I can't control who stays and who goes. So if you take into account the complexity of the music, the complexity of everyones schedules and personal lives it becomes difficult to keep a solid line up of original members. I have always given everyone the option to come back and have asked several members to come back in the past. If you look around I'm sure you'll find that a lot of bands have a lot of line up changes especially in metal/technical death metal. Have a good one.
Fucking loved Brain Drill back in the day man! Bought your first CD the day it came out. Keep it heavy.
Snapcase is back and playing at Every Time I Die’s Christmas show this year. Pretty close to a Christmas Miracle
Snapcase was my gateway to hardcore back in the gap. Them and Sick of it All
Darkest Hour was and still is my favorite band in the metal genre.
Everyone else was doing open break downs and they shredded and thrashed out.
Thrash to Live , Live to Thrash..
I saw darkest hour play when they were touring deliver us. Top 5 shows. It’s up there for when poison the well was touring you come before you. However poison the well visions and tropic rot are just unsung masterpieces nobody ever talked about.
Never enough of Snapcase, please keep it coming!
I really miss them
Snapcase's Progression Through Unlearning is still one of the most powerful albums I've ever heard (I'm 36). I was 16 when I first heard it. It had such a positive impact on me. Really moving.
With the punches needs to be on one of these videos. So sad that they never got a bigger audience.
John Franzese 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
I saw them live I think like 6 or 7 years ago and they were so much fun live! It was also my first pop punk show so they made a really good first impression but ya definitely should've gotten bigger
Seams & Stitches is one of my favorite albums ever
AMEN TO THAT
The Starting Line have totally made an impact on pop punk, even if they were never that big, I know that Knuckle Puck cite them as a big influence and they're like one of the biggest bands in the whole pop punk revival thing
and real friends. their latest album sounds pretty much like "direction" by the starting line and dan lambton tries to emulate kenny
You talking about Defend Pop Punk makes me want to see a video of your top 10 (5?) band branding/logos/etc (not including the big ones like Misfits, Black Flag, and Dead Kennedys).
yo this is a great idea!
brb starting a Change.org petition
33 year old just getting in to Snapcase 😁 loved the sound the second I heard it come out of my phone!! Thank you! Keep this is up love this channel.
For future editions: Hopesfall, The Hope Conspiracy, The Bled, Beloved, Life in Your Way, Far - I rocked the hell out of these bands in early 2000s (Far were late 90s, but they definitely should've been bigger)
I love Life in Your Way. So good. Beloved was amazing too.
Beloved is still one of my all-time favorites. Their album Failure On still kills it now.
@@Mharriscreations Wow, I haven't thought about that record in a long time but I remember being REALLY hyped on it for a time.
@@downhillanddeadlifts6489 You should take another listen. I was blasting it a couple of weeks back and was loving it. It holds up really well.
@@Mharriscreations I'm about to take an hour long drive followed by a few days of camping. Good timing for this suggestion!
Woah! I haven't thought about brain drill in ages! They were insane back in the day.
Darkest Hour are criminally underrated and under appreciated. The revolving door of record labels they've been on probably didn't help, but all of their albums are great.
If you need a single of theirs to check, try Demon(s) or Doomsayer. \m/
You cover and compliment a wide range of bands and genres. It’s very refreshing. Please keep making great videos! It is nice that a lot of these bands have experienced a great deal of underground success. 🙏
In reference to Snapcase, they are back again! They are playing Every Time I Die's holiday show 'Tid The Season in Buffalo this weekend!
Finn, just wanted to thank you for the insights. Another great video.
I'm releasing my first EP next week and your ideas are helping me a lot!
The fact you opened with darkest hour made me geek out a little bit. I have always done my damnedest to help people navigate through their albums and like recommend tracks that spoke to me. And it literally just never caught on with any of my friends, Deliver Us and Undoing Ruin were two back to back masterpieces to me, and evey subsequent album afterwards were more mature more refined and just really well done! Their waaaay earlier stuff you can totally tell what scene they came out of. John has never changed his vocal style from the hardcore style, which is probably the biggest reason I love them so much 👌
also, re listening to say it like you mean it is making my monday morning! keep these up dude! Love it!
Love these videos. And agreed about Snapcase. I'm 27 and got into them 10 years ago after I heard Geoff Rickly mention them in the Thursday documentary. That stuff is wild.
Also, you if you haven't yet(got to check your archives), you should totally do a video on Coheed and Cambria. We are all one among the Fence!
This is a great series, thanks for all the hard work you put into your videos. Can't wait for the next one. Two suggestions for bands that should have been bigger series - Say Anything and The Jealous Sound. Not sure if you agree, but I would love your take on these two in this series.
Keep it up!
Montrose was definitely one of those high school breakup songs back in the day. I had your playlist going on shuffle a few weeks ago and this song came up again! It definitely brought a nostalgic tear to my eye haha. Thanks for throwing it in the video, and of course mentioning MO.
Thanks for the recommendations!
Snapcase is an incredibly underrated band. Been saying that since I heard them in the 2000's as a kid getting into hardcore. Could not agree more with the bands on this ep. Good work! (Also agree about the Starting Line and Darkest Hour both great bands, Darkest Hour was very underappreciated.)
Hey Finn. 36 Y.O. From the buckle of the Bible Belt in SW MO here. Got into the scene later in life, fresh year of college. Actually bought Matt from TSL and Nick from Gatsby’s American Dream a shot of Jagger after a show in Springfield MO. Side Note: My Gatsby’s shirt I bought at that show is still my fav band shirt ever purchased. Keep your channel going, they make me smile and bring back awesome memories.
Super impressed you named Snapcase - it's why I clicked on this vid,. Saw them three times, once as a headliner. They were an amazing live band.
I think the biggest thing holding them back was they didn't keep their same sound for long. Their first album sounds very different than their second (the one you showed the most), and then their third was super experimental. They were one of my favorite bands but I didn't love their newer stuff.
If course, I'm 39, so yeah, you nailed that.
I'm under 38 and I love Snapcase! Progression Through Unlearning still holds up! The one musician I ever heard talk about Snapcase as an influence was the guitarist for Papa Roach
The piccolo snare is a sound I haven't heard replicated. It stood out.
I think Boys Night Out should have been bigger. I think they were one of the first (that i know of) band to mix catchy pop punk, hardcore vocals, breakdowns etc. Not to forget their serial killer themed lyrics. I just love all of their records, even though they evolved their style into this weird prog-pop thing.
Dude seriously. Boys Night Out first full length was insane when it came out. Then the next album was pure shit
@@kh7955 I actually hated Trainwreck when it came out, to be honest. But now I really enjoy it.
Saw The Starting Line in NYC last year and I swear to Christ i was 15 again (in reality I just turned 31). What an amazing show it was. Always loved this band and always will. Damn man, watching your videos brings me back to an awesome time in my life. Just saw Senses Fail (my alltime fave band) a few weeks ago too and HOLY SHIT what a show!!. Thank you so much for being awesome and creating these super well thought out videos about the music. You def have gained a faithful fan in me. Sending much love from Dirty Jersey ❤
A Wilhelm Scream is another punk band that should have been waaayyyy bigger
Agree!! I was buddies with Nuno when they were Smackin Isaiah!!
Literally just posted same, scrolled down and saw yours) AWS are gods
AWS' Mute Print and Ruiner are *perfect*. Saw them with the Swellers (also underrated imo) and it remains of my favorite shows ever.
Love the videos, especially the insight of the business with Fall Out Boy. Actually got to open for them when they toured with Punchline. I was in the scene from 2000-2010 until I finally got traction with a band called Acalasia. We split up when 3 of the members decided to use their engineering degrees to get jobs. Keep up the good work.
Face to face should pop up on one of these lists one day.
I actually got into them because one of their songs was Remixed on one of the Mortal Kombat soundtracks. I had their self-titled album playing in my car for six months straight after I bought it.
I think its safe to say face to face is exactly where they want to be. I mean everyone wants to make a million dollars or whatever but I don't think Trevor and the boys are crying about anything...just my thought
@@robeisenhut9068 I agree, but they were so close, on the cusp. I adore the band and the documentary sheds a little light on what happened.
I wanted to say thank you for the time you put into your channel to give us the viewers some new and old music to keep rocking on !
Thanks man!
Seeing Snapcase in OC, Cali next month with MLIW woo woo! Great video! Loved DH as well!
and a band which is/was rather big, yet still deserves waaaaay more credit is Bowling for Soup. this 4 big dudes make funny, cheerful, honest music with a very personal touch, amazing vocals, own style and loads and loads of beers. love every kilogram of them!
I love Snapcase, I still listen to their first couple of records from time to time. I’m old though. Their last record was fuckin weird, but respect for trying something different.
Totally agree with these choices! Listen to all these bands daily. great video as always!
As a teenager, back when my grandma would buy me cd's through a magazine and before I had access to the internet, I got Darkest Hour's album "Undoing Ruin" on a whim and boy did I hit the jackpot. Darkest Hour was one of the first albums that redirected my music route from Kansas radio music. Ill always hold a special place in my heart for that album because if not for that and a few other albums, I would have never felt music the way that I do today. Thank you again for existing on this platform, man. I hope you gain millions of subs because you deserve it.
I'm interested in your take of Waterparks being the big band to come from that genre, when bands like The Story So Far, State Champs and Neck Deep came out from that scene and definitely become a lot more successful than Waterparks ever did.
They came out of nowhere in like 2011 and got a shocking amount of press
I didn’t hear about Waterparks until 2016 when Alternative Press started plastering them all over their magazine. I just assumed they were the next generation of Pop Punk after bands like Neck Deep, had no clue they’ve been around that long.
@@USHARDY I believe they got new management around that time... maybe the Madden brothers? Can't remember.
exactly. WP are not even close to neck deep lvl of hype
Yeah, Neck Deep, State Champs, The Story So Far, etc. was my shit back circa 2013 but i've never even heard of Waterparks. Honestly, the only bands from that whole scene that came out of that scene gracefully were the ones who evolved their sound e.g. The Wonder Years and Story So Far, shout out to Turnover too.
I also feel that looks could have unfortunately played a part in Man Overboard's success. The bands that succeeded in that genre all had/have that looks that could sell magazines.
I always thought their name came from the Far song, but they named themselves after a Blink-182 song. I think they could have been bigger, but to me it was maybe a timing issue. They came out at 2008, and that was just a weird time for any type of rock band (other than Kings of Leon). It was that post-garage rock/post post-punk/post-third wave of indie rock revival period that didn’t really give room for newer rock oriented bands. That’s kind of when MGMT broke. The trajectory was already going in another direction.
Even before I started dissecting music at a technical level, I knew something was up with Snapcase's drums. It was so different from the other heavy stuff I was listening to at the time and I loved it.
What up Finn! I just want to say thank you for all the cool videos. Same as you I grew up on hard core in the 90's and we had a pretty vibrant hard core scene in my country(Hungary,east europe). I started to play drums when i was twelve and when i turned sixtween i had my first show with my first band ,all the guys were older and were really kind and amazed how young i was n how i played n stuff. That was a long long time ago and many things have changed . i still make music ,but its totally different ,but thanks to you i am starting to rediscover and enjoy my roots. So thanks again keep up the good work! G
P.s. as a drummer i totally agree with your note on the snare,it sounds so good haha
Went to see Boy Sets Fire around 2001 and Snapcase was on the lineup. They blew the roof off the place.
Saw them on that same tour....can confirm both bands were awesome!
Seriously. I was only able to see Snapcase once more after that, but caught BSF every time they came around.
What about Rufio, Mest, Mxpx
Definitely Rufio.
First time I saw Rufio, they opened for Poison the Well and Rise Against.
@@adamantiumknot sounds sick
One of the guys at my school paper interviewed MxPx when they were on tour in 2002 and actually asked them "How does it feel to be opening for bands that cite YOU as their primary inspiration?"
Did not go over well. Not at all.
Omg rufio.... not since 2006
You are not wrong about that Snapcase snare man, good stuff. Loved me some Snapcase back in the day. And yeah, I'm 39
Love that you mentioned Snapcase. Love them. Yes, that crank snare sounds are haunted
Lookingglassself e.p is my all time favourite
Snapcase was one of those bands that was always on the road. I also loved these guys. Yes, that snare sound! Those guitars were completely unusual. There was so much creative energy flowing through the work those guys put out musically. Though, to me the recordings never quite captured or raised up the Snapcase sound as a whole; And the Victory packaging never really dovetailed with the unique character of Snapcase as an exceptional band.
You're so right about darkest hour. I remember getting into them in 2003ish but no songs really stick out in my mind at the moment. Maybe I'll check them out again today.
@rocket grunt Agreed, everything up to deliver us is full of stand outs. New stuff is good too, but those albums are relentless, and even crazier live.
Undoing Ruin and Deliver Us have killer song after killer song just listen
Great vid, great series!! Keep it up! And pleeeeze talk some about Neglect!!
Bro I love your videos!!! You're doing exactly what I wanted to do with our local bands (Costa Rica), and discuss what bands in the scene have gone through.
Thanks man!
90’s era hardcore kid here. We grew up on the same bands it seems. I’m down in Southern California. Anytime Snapcase came into town, it was a legit event. Progression Through Unlearning is a hardcore education staple, as well as the Steps EP. I’m surprised to hear people complain about the vocals - it was incredibly punchy and powerful in their realm. Their later albums were pretty rough though.
I grew up in what would affectionately be called Spirit Filled Hardcore with bands like Focused, Unashamed, and early Zao. Those were some of the best days.
I’m out of the loop on hardcore, but I’m not sure if you’ve spent anytime with the San Diego scene like Unbroken, Swing Kids (or any of Justin Pearson’s output), etc.
Last, I’m a huge fan of The Chariot. Have you heard Josh Scogin’s current stuff with 68’? It’s mind blowing at times.
Unashamed were so sick!
I know I’m two years too late but why the fuck does Unbroken not get any love. THEY were a band that’s musical style and energy not only changed the game for a lot of people but they also brought an aesthetic that couldn’t be found anywhere in hardcore at the time or maybe even today.
@@the_real_tay_loud2072 At the time Unbroken were too artsy and brooding for some of the hardcore scene. They traded in sportswear for black tight clothing and the rest is history!
The Starting Line was awesome back in the day. I was like 12 when say it like you mean it came out and I was already really into Blink and Green Day at the time. All of that stuff hit me at the exact right time. My tastes got much darker and heavier as I went through high school and had my own bands but I’ll always look back on that era of pop punk as my roots.
Fun video! I just discovered yr channel. I got to see Darkest Hour & Snapcase a few times. First time I saw Darkest Hour, they got dates mixed up and showed up to the wrong city - 5 hours away! They kept driving, got to the show an hour after the last band played (Submission Hold from Canada) and played a killer set to a small crowd. Around that time, before Mark of the Judas came out, they were phoning promoters and just telling them they shred. They were right. Ahhh life before the internet!
I dig your videos so much. I wish more people had the music knowledge you have!!!!!
Thank you!
YES SNAPCASE!!!!! thought they were going to be like a "household hardcore" band!! Saw them at d.c. warped tour and had one of the biggest crowds next to bad religion and played so freaking good!!! And yes their drummer CRUSHED the drums. Watched him go through like 3 different kick pedals in one 30 min set!! INTENSE to say the least...thanks finn
Dude I remember when my drummer best friend showed me Brain Drill back in like '08. Man my brain like melted. That shit was way too technical for me. But I still loved it.
Great video as always Finn
You can't talk about Snapcase without mentioning that snare. Glad you did!
Dude that super tight snare sound that Snapcase had reminds me of how Helmet's drums were on the Betty album. Miss that.
Yes! Exactly
-Neck
-Mushmouth
-E-Town Concrete
-One King Down
-Stretch Arm Strong
-Dynamite Boy
-Fenix TX
Definitely Stretch.
Fav channel on RUclips!!! You are great man!
Absolutely love the content man, keep it coming. ManO was definitely one of those that pulled me in the 2010-11 era, may have even found them on StuffYouWillHate
"Dead to Fall - Are You Serious?"
cool. super cool.
My buddy Chad was in Dead to Fall
@@MixedkidFridaysOfficial I love both them and Darkest Hour - both are my all time favorites....When I heard DTF got back together...I flew to DC from TX just to see them and was also super excited about DH's Undoing Ruin 10th anniversary and there 20th anniversary as a band. In fact, I have a tattoo of the Undoing Ruin album cover...I'm the guy at the very end of the video here:
ruclips.net/video/tQTvbsReYtc/видео.html
The crowd suffering wheelchair guy was both awesome and terrifying. It was such a spectacular time!! :D
I still spin Everything I Touch Falls To Pieces on a monthly basis
Dude I was a HUGE TSL fan. That “Say it like you mean it” record is still good. To me, they lost it with Kenny growing up. I mean, by album two he was kinda hippie, surfer, dude. All that energy that was on their up debut was missing. They put out an EP in 2016 w/3 songs and it’s actually not bad--it has the catchy pop sensibilities that they nail, but again it just doesn’t have the tempo and energy I got from album one.
Much Love and well done,
Aaron
Well said
Going to go look that up now, I love their sound from say it like you mean it
Dakota Fletcher it was good enough (and cheap enough), that I bought the EP in 2016 right when it released. That said, it’s been another two years & I don’t know of any action since (doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened, I just haven’t seen/heard anything....not that I’ve looked, lol).
The Punk Rock MBA just watched their documentary on YT (somebody’s gonna miss us). It really shows their lack of luck...I had no idea both times they signed to majors they got parked (no touring, lost all momentum). Between that, the interband issues (some wanting major fame ala FOB vs others refusing to write for radio) and then that obvious change in sound/tempo, I think we can concretely conclude what happened. FYI, check that documentary out if you’ve got 50 mins free--pretty telling, even just through body language/between the lines.
Island is still a solid record too.
great video man...side note: i got a darkest hour tshirt/cd bundle back in 2006. the shirt was exclusive to Rolling Stones records here in Chicago. i went to their 1st show promoting that album, and a hour aftertheir set, i made a beeline to get a drink, and Mike was there there too. i started with my "i love you guys!" geek out, but he saw my shirt and stopped me in mid sentence and gave me a big hug and said "i love you, man!" i'll never forget that, and even though they should have been bigger, it shows how they've stuck around for so long. real genuine, cool ass dudes who are appreciative about their fans
Snapcase just played Tid the season(every time I die's christmas show) as the coheadliner with vein, turnstile knocked loose, bouncing souls, mezingers, and angel dust. They killed the show hope more people look into them. The other bands all made sure to shout em out and plenty of folks were enjoying the show
Band that should've been bigger.
1.from a second Story window
2.deadwater drowning
3.7angels 7plagues
4.dead to fall
5.unearth
6.elysia
Elysia!
I constantly listen to all of these bands! 🤘
Here's a few more to add:
Animosity
A Black Rose Burial
Remembering Never
See you next tuesday
Lion of judas one of my fav albums
I think God Forbid should have been bigger... 🤔🤔🤔
What do you think of the new wave of metalcore? Bands like Code orange, Knocked loose and Vein
Thats what i mean by “hypecore” :)
Maybe he’ll do a more in-depth video in the future, but skip to 9:58 in this video ruclips.net/video/PZqehWjb94U/видео.html
OffLeatherWings that would be awesome
@@ThePunkRockMBA To me Sylar and Palisades
are the Hypecore , cuz they are the Hypebeast kids who wear Hyped cloth like Supreme x TNF collaboration, Code Orange is more like Grunge/witch CoreH， but its depends on how you define it, the look the sounds or simply popularity
hurt goes on bro
The first hardcore show I went to Atreyu open for Snapcase/Boy Set Fire at theTtroubadour in LA after it was rescheduled from the El Ray Theater. This was Oct '02. Atreyu was good but when Snapcase took the stage, I was blown away. They were so fucking good. That was my first experience with hardcore dancing, coming from years in the Punk circle pit -- It was hilarious. I stopped listening to Atreyu not long after that show but I still have tons of Snapcase tracks on my playlists. And I'm 35 by the way lol. Great video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. Glad to hear that Disembodied is still getting some love. Guess I'm a bit out of touch the group listening to them but awesome that they are.
Great video made me think about darkest hour again haven't thought about them since like 07, 08.
The Starting Line ♡♡♡
Bands you should do :
The Menzingers and Bayside
hey finn, idk if you'll read this one since the video is pretty old but so glad to see somebody actually bringing up snapcase. I'm 25 and love their stuff. discovered them first playing need for speed when I was a kid. their song skeptic put them on my radar and they were probably the first hardcore band I ever listened to.
Great episode man. Darkest Hour is great. I really liked the turn in sound on the album Deliver Us. They definitely went for like an In Flames kinda singing/screaming dynamic. Snapcase is among my favorite hardcore bands and I am 35. I think your mention of 38years is a little high as I know a lot of people my age that like them. I agree with you though that they are largely forgotten especially when compared to bands like Refused who i think they kinda occupied the same space with. Progression Through Unlearning was a game changer along with that Steps EP. The Starting Line, one thing I will say is that it seemed like after that debut album they were always chasing the "this is our mature album" sound and it just never was as good as that first LP and their first EP which is also really good (it had that tricycle on the cover). I love Vacationer though, especially that first album. Perfect for summer listening by the pool or at a beach or if you want to pretend you are on vacation. I really like how they mix doo-wop with the more modern kinda trip hop and pop sounds. Not something i always want to listen to but it has its moments.
you should mention Ion Dissonance and Drop Dead, Gorgeous in your next episode
Veara is a band who I always thought would blow up but never did. Pop punk band that was heavily endorsed by Jeremy from ADTR. Dropped a fairly hyped record on Epitaph in 2010 (even toured here in Australia in 2011 and played to some fairly big crowds), but then a year or so after that they pretty much dropped off the earth. I didn't even know they had released another record in 2013 until I just looked them up then.
They were good! Produced by my friend Andrew Wade as well
Yo! Snapcase was my shit! I'm 42, so no surprise there. But you're so on point, that snare!!! All you have to do is say Snapcase and I hear it. So happy to see them getting some love here.
Im under 38 and love Snapcase. Very cool to see you mention them! Would love it if you did a video about them or mentioned more things about them
If you watch the Starting Line documentary “Somebody’s Going To Miss Us” it totally explains why they weren’t bigger. Pretty much they just kept either making the wrong choices or getting screwed by labels. Like they were going to record with a producer and decided not to, then that producer’s next album was a smash hit for Fall Out Boy. They just had a lot of “face palm” moments. It’s unfortunate but I’d take their amount of success any day. Just to be signed to a label as rad as drive thru was back then, tour and have a dedicated fan base is cool to me.
I talked about Man-O in my other comment but forgot to mention Waterparks. That’s another newer band I actually really like. Being managed by the Madden Brothers doesn’t hurt your career either. Super catchy and I love the falsetto vocal parts. Unfortunately it’s a sound they can’t reproduce live. Because their albums are so overproduced they at least need to add an auxiliary guitarist or synth and definitely need a vocal pedal. I was bummed to see them fall short live. I’ve been playing in bands a long time and I know how hard it is, but they definitely need to add something to cushion their live show if they can’t come close to their recordings. Hopefully it’s something they work on.
If you're looking for current bands doing the Snapcase sound, definitely check out the band Riot Stares from SC. They have two EPs out and some singles from an upcoming full-length out and it's all really badass.
Interesting!
"FLow to the Friction" is tight! Sounds like early 108 mixed with bluesy VOD.
Great, right?!
Holy crap Snapcase was freaking good... but then I'm 45 so... yeah, 90s kid.
Still listen to Snapcase on the regular. Being a drummer in a hardcore band in the mid nineties, I used a ratchet on my snare to try and get that sound, I dreamed of being as good as Tim.
Darkest Hour also started making radio music for a minute. Their last album was a banger! Pretty sure they recorded with Kurt Ballou.
Kurt would be the right guy to go to for them!
Thier last album was an excellent return to form. The self titled release on sumarian records is by far thier weakest.
I had heard that The Starting Line had minimal success with their debut album for their single, "Best Of Me". Everyone thought this band was going to take off in the pop punk/emo world. But they released the album when that scene of music was starting to become altered. Ever since then, they tried to rekindle their success, but didn't go far with it.
Quentin Childs This documentary gives some great insight into what happened ruclips.net/video/cJwQHhO3S74/видео.html
@@gympossibleUK Thanks!
I’m new to your videos, but I love this stuff! You really do your research, awesome content.
Some bands that I think fit this category: Evergreen Terrace, Haste the Day, Winter Solstice, Maylene and the Sons of Disaster
Thanks man! Great suggestions!
I love your content so much man. People say this a lot but it's never been more true than with your channel, but I really can't understand how there aren't more subs here yet. Keep up the incredible work my dude.
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I've been a Snapcase fan since '99. LOVE them. So underrated. Always appreciated the Helmet worship and how unique and technical they were. The band was hot from Lookinglasself to Designs. End Transmission was okay but lacked the power of all their previous work and that's where they fell off. They're playing NYC with Sick Of It All and Slapshot in June. I want to go so bad.
Man I fucking love this series. Kinda reminds me of SYWH when you talk about what the hype-kids will start jocking next. Was so bummed when you took it offline. Really dig the channel though.
Thanks man!
Clicked for brain drill.... wasn’t disappointed.
Thanks Finn!
I laughed when that wall fell on you 😂😂😂 great list, awesome channel
Definitely agree with your choices. I also feel that Anberlin should've been bigger. Great musicians with a unique sound in my opinion. They're retired but this year they came out with two surprise shows in FL (where they're from). Wish they would come out with a new album.
Love your channel, cheers!
-Alexay
Thanks man! Met the singer of anberlin once (stephen?), he was disarmingly nice
Definitely. Love their sound and each album was great. The New Jersey Devils would actually use their songs during commercial breaks at the arena sometimes.
@@ThePunkRockMBA that's awesome! He always gave me the nice guy vibe
@@adamantiumknot oh wow, thats pretty cool. Wish they were still writing/touring. Miss them!
I saw them the last 2 Florida dates on their farewell tour and going to their Tampa show coming up! They're all really nice guys and their live shows are just fun! Idk I'd they are coming out with any new material but I saw on Stephen's ig him in a studio recording vocals ( I think earlier this year) but fingers crossed!
Does anyone remember the band, Emanuel?
Soundtrack to a Headrush is perfection!
They opened the Louder Now Tour (TBS) Great band!
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Soundtrack to a Headrush is one my favorite albums hell yeah
Quentin Childs hell ya
I recently just started listening to Snapcase... and that snare is one of the main things that really grabbed my attention!
The Starting Line was the first band I ever saw at Warped Tour in 2007. Will always love them.