Hit your SLICE SERVE like the Pro's! Tennis secret revealed
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Today we are going to explain your how you can improve your slice serve in tennis with some simple drills.
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I appreciate coaches who explain and actually do it as well. A lot of people dont show their ball action specially on kick serves haha
This guy is really good. I’m USPTA Elite with USTA High Performance and ATP experience and I’m impressed. I don’t want to play this guy 1st round!
I don't know why i've never in my whole tennis playing life i've never heard of pronating a serve. This blows my mind completely and i cant wait to get on court to try it out. thank goodness for RUclips and the internet!
Nice serving as always, Serg. This time relaxed slice. You have a fluid classic motion with nothing extreme in it nor ugly abbreviations with unwanted hitches. A useful bench mark for all tennis toddlers!
Thanks for your comment Jack!
You are the only one who explained pronation on the second serve. Kudos to you. I am a subscriber.
Pronation is effective on a flat serve. Pronating on a slice serve is not required. as you can see in your slow motion video , the pronation happens way after your ball left your racquet. That's because the racquet meet the ball in an angle. On a flat serve the racquet is flat and the pronation actually helps to generate down snap motion on the ball. If you watch pro players some of them don't even pronate on a slice serve and the just bring the arm down. They know that pronation on a slice is not effective. Watch Serina Williams and Andy Murry to convince yourself. There are two types of slice and the supinating slice is not as fast as what you call pronation slice , but the final act of dropping the racquet at the end in a pronation is not the differentiator between these serve technics. The difference is a curved banana style going around the ball vs a snap wrist motion in an opposing angle which generate a kinetic tip of the racquet head speed. Anyway I enjoyed your video and your technic is good nothing wrong in pronating at the end but it doesn't really add a lot of power if at all , unlike the case of a flat serve.
watch at 1:02 Andy @ ruclips.net/video/oQtJlnAoSJQ/видео.html&feature=emb_logo
It is helpful teaching. Thank you so much.
I would like some tips of servering at the advantage court. Good vídeo. Recevied the like.
A relaxed arm plus correct strike angle on the ball equals pronation. It happens all by itself, the natural motion of the arm. No shoulder or elbow problems at all. If you don't try to muscle the ball and use looseness to create headspeed, you'll be fine.
The best video describing the pronation slıce service
I never thought about this, and in fact in my mind I was thinking a slice serve must have that element of supination... for some reason I associated pronation with a ball that would go outwards (think kick serve). Incredible how you can pronate and get that awesome slice serve. I absolutely love your videos.
If you're old enough you've watched Roddick serve slices. No way he could slice with as much power withou pronation
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Thanks for the comment Arturo! Is a very common mistake that so many coaches teach, but doesn't allow you to generate any kind of power.
You make it look so easy. Thanks!
Yes, old enough to have seen a lot of Roddick... and Sampras, Agassi, etc. :) Been playing for a long time, but at recreational level of course. To this day I thought a slice serve had no pronation... I am surprised to say the least; thanks for Roddick's clip, it's quite clear in the slow-mo he also pronates... I guess since I always thought of hitting "the outside of the ball", I thought the natural thing to do was bring the racket (and hand/arm) inwards, and not pronate; this sounds silly but I'm still a little shocked and eager to try it next time I'm on court.
Pronation is the process of ANY twisting “open” of the forearm from “on edge” toward flat, ie from racket face parallel to path of swing (like a hammer) toward perpendicular to swing path. Therefore any serve that starts on edge pronates. It is a matter of degree and rate of pronation in conjunction with timing of contact with the ball which affect racquet head speed and angle of racquet face at instant of contact.
The angle of the racquet face primarily determines the direction of the ball, and the racket face swing path determines the spin.
Thanks. Not sure I saw slices going too wide, they looked more like serves to the forehand side. In any case, great video, especially the slow motion part.
I thought the same, but I guess that once you become familiar with the swing path, then you can add more slice modifying such path a little bit.
Subscribed! Great explanation of the pronation in the slice serve. I had always had that doubt.
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Terrific tip on the slice and probation.
It's more on the shoulder that problem may occur. Because there's an internal shoulder rotation after the pronation .We'll see those pros when they'll be older. Sampras had a big serve but also injuries on the shoulder.
This video will help many people. I wish the pros taught pronation when I was growing up. My serve is better than it's ever been...
You are right, we still find so many pros teaching it the wrong way. Thanks for your comment!
Don't get me wrong... He reminds me of another channel feel tennis Mr. Tomaz... But this channel deserves more views and sub too.. Thank you for the uploads More power to you Sir
I believe players get caught up on the word pronation and take it too literally. Take the first serve. It is very possible to approach the ball on edge, start pronating and hit the ball square, and then finish pronating, using the wrong combination of muscles and have no power.. The best way to describe what really happens is to do the following drill. Stand with your arm extended, holding the racquet in continental grip with the handle and face straight up in the air on edge. With out moving your arm, lower the racquet face to your right until it is parallel to the ground. From this point pronate so the racquet goes all the way to your left and parallel to the ground. Then try hitting a ball at the top between the supination to your right (palm up) and pronation to your left (palm down). Then see how hard you can hit it, how fast you can go from a still palm up position to the palm down. It is because of this full movement, which has so much power the pros pronate on all serves. The final part of the pronation is delayed on the kick and slice serves and even the first. You should notice that their is some internal shoulder rotation going on when you do the palm up - palm down drill.
Excellent drill! 👍🏻 Do you have any drills like this to help players develop forehand racket head speed using the correct muscles and joints?
Well explained. Thanks
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Can you guys make a video on footwork drills and footwork patterns on agility ladders?
Check out the video that we have about ladder drills, we posted it a few months ago. Thanks for the comment!
I notice better control when I am conscious of my pronation and at times I fall in and out of it how can I remind myself to pronate every time?
Just wondering why my ball curve to the right instead of left tho I'm right handed after following your swing path with pronation.
Thanks
Sergei, you make it look so easy but today I tried one hour to replicate your serve and I found it very strange to twist my arm like that. I still supinate on most of my serves because I find it more natural to bring the racket in an arc following the contact with the ball. Maybe you can show us more examples because I think a lot of players struggle to get this right.
Dan, swing should come natural. Do not try to muscle through the swing. It will require repetition before you will break through the habit of supinating. Take your time as you are going through the progression.
3:20 ball simu 5:48 if too much 7:15 slow motion
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If the ball is a clock,, where does the ball meet the strips??? 1 or 2 oclock?
bravo wondurful
3:55 - Throat slice serve drill
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Who cares
Maybe I missed something, but whats the difference in pronation between a first serve and a second (slice) serve.
Contact point. Flat serve contact is at back of ball, slice serve is toward the side of the ball.
Hi,
I don’t understand how you can slice by opening the hand (pronation) as he says ?
Get what you're saying. If you slice the ball your hand has to close at contact point on an angle that elliptical to the side you make the ball spin. Otherwise you defy the laws of physics. Tennis players are still the least intelligent of athletes. It's like this all you do with a racket is substitute it for your hand in a throwing motion. If you want to hit a slice it's the same as throwing a BREAKING BALL in baseball more like a slider so at release point in baseball or contact point in serving your wrist has to be at an angle in same direction as the spin you impart. Unless the laws of physics change for tennis. If you hit or throw a ball with straight on pronation it's going relatively in a straight line if you turn your wrist inside out like a kick serve its going to bounce more or less to the opposite side at ad side. Unless your serving into a 100mph hurricane side wind laws of physics aren't gonna change .lol
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nice demonstration, but isn't this more of a kick serve but to the left... with a slice serve you throw the ball a little more to the right and really slice the ball, especially on grass can be effective. The pronation is to highlight the wrist motion for the kick serve, and if you serve wide from left to right the ball will jump to the right as well, or through the middle from left to right
the pronation seems to be putting action on the ball that looks more like a kick serve than a real slice. it's not tailing away to the side.
True. But 90% won't even know the difference. If you hit or throw a ball with your wrist pronate or straight at a target that's the way it's going. Explanation how serving a tennis ball overrides physics.
Correct. It's a poor example. Basically a kick slice serve. Slices in the air then kicks when it lands. This is not a true slice serve.
You're rotating on the serve - see the video "Avoid Over-Rotating on Your Tennis Serve" on why to fix this.
Molodets Serega!
But how can you say getting down the T with a slice?? And with most first serves its mostly flat.
Its all about the direction and path of your swing and your weight.. If you There are a lot of factors that effect this so you might not notice. (Such as having a different toss each time)
And thats actually not true. A slice would often times be considered a first serve. You can flatten it out slightly to give yourself a little more pace.
Regarding Pronation: I have looked at various serves and it seems Djokovic does it the least and maybe Dimitrov does it the most among active players. I will try it for sure, but the at the first glance it seems counter intuitive at this point. I have to admit I don't do it this way.
When I serve slice in the left box and hit the ball in a clockwise direction to create the spin and push the player to the exterior, I find it rather strange to rotate the arm in the opposite direction because it is not the natural way. For me the natural way is how the women in your clip does it, after the slide, the racket comes down naturally facing the net and not the fence. Do you contact the ball below the sweet spot that generates this twisting of racket?
Dan, you would contact the ball at the sweet spot as any other serve. However, with an angle to generate slice. Pronation helps to max racquet head speed which will generate more spin (slice).
Thanks lots.
It looks like a topspin Serve. Shouldn’t it curve?
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Yeah, there's some BS going on here.
ruclips.net/video/J-55rCazxA4/видео.html
Pronation is a biomechanical term for rotation of the forearm, without moving the shoulder joint. Visualize holding a door knob, then rotating it counter-clockwise, if you're right handed, clock-wise if you're a left. Problem is, this is not what pros do, and they picked the wrong term. Their motions all start with rotation of the shoulder.
In the pro serve, the shoulder rotates back and out, then in until the arm extends as the inside of the forearm radius (inside bone) is thrust strongly down. The correct technical terms, according to Brian Gordon, Director of Tennis Biomechanics for Gamasports Technologies, are exterior- and interior-shoulder rotation with ulnar deviation. There is some, but little pronation.
Suggesting to consciously time and manufacture pronation is probably the worst coaching tip possible.
his grip is to high.....no manches..4.36
Not much slice on these serves at all!
Too long ... 8 minutes and a lot of blabla
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Please don't tell us your life story and get to the point. Stretching the conversation too much is wasting people's time.
Shut up that was actually very important like the part where he said eventually he realized pronating on all the serves really improved them. Its the one thing that I've really found extremely useful to hit more consistent way better serves
Plus you're on youtube you can literally speed up the video or click to skip ahead dumbass don't try to tell the content creator what to do
First half of the segment was spent on too much talking.