How the 2034 Olympics Will Reshape the Utah Ski Scene

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  • @goodson77784
    @goodson77784 Месяц назад +98

    IMO they should only go to places they've already been to. We have enough olympic venues in ruin.

    • @roadlesstraveled1819
      @roadlesstraveled1819 Месяц назад +4

      100%

    • @derrickcochran4044
      @derrickcochran4044 Месяц назад +1

      100% agree. Just pick a a few cities that you just rotate through. Makes the most sense

    • @waltysalamander
      @waltysalamander Месяц назад +7

      unless there’s an abundance of pre-existing, feasible facilities
      That’s what Los Angeles did in 84 and worked amazingly.

    • @reidr7288
      @reidr7288 Месяц назад

      Agreed. Or if a place already has the infrastructure to host

    • @tomm8555
      @tomm8555 Месяц назад +3

      yeah I 100% agree. for summer: LA/Montreal, Mexico City/Rio, Paris/London, Dubai/Doha, Tokyo/Beijing, Australia. repeat. Winter: SLC/Vancouver, Buenos Aires/Santiago, Milan/Munich/Oslo, Sapporo/SK/Beijing, repeat

  • @booey-l5o
    @booey-l5o Месяц назад +27

    You guys should make videos on the master/long-term plans of various popular resorts. Would love to not only see what they have planned, but also to hear your analyses. Great video as always

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Месяц назад +2

      Great suggestion!

    • @cobefriend7797
      @cobefriend7797 Месяц назад

      @@PeakRankingsYeah you guys break things down very well, honestly the government should work with you!

  • @williammerrell2196
    @williammerrell2196 Месяц назад +21

    Snowbasin will have all the alpine events this time. Also, no way they put a 40-60 person team to Allen Peak, absolutely no need for that, limited skiable terrain up there that can’t handle that kind of capacity. Last time, they put a temporary rope tow to get the women to the starting house, I imagine they’ll do something similar again.

    • @Sunvalleycode
      @Sunvalleycode Месяц назад

      Excellent observation; there is no reason to spend money on replacing the tram, it works fine and serves what it needs. The John Paul replacement should be the main focus for now; Strawberry & Needles 🚠 will eventually be replaced, but they’re still pretty solid. I wish they would put the 🌞 back on them!

  • @brandonbizier8854
    @brandonbizier8854 Месяц назад +40

    No little cottonwood canyon gondola button!

    • @maxguthmann
      @maxguthmann 20 дней назад +1

      Gondola seems like a decent idea to me. Cheaper than expanding the bus service and once its up and running no need to worry about politicians cutting its service in half like the buses had. There are plenty of other canyons to enjoy if you really hate looking at gondolas. Plus it'll connect big and little cottonwood once they expand it and maybe even park city eventually.

  • @porterwarren4688
    @porterwarren4688 Месяц назад +4

    Yes! We definitely need improved and expanded public transit infrastructure to better host the world and serve those who live here long term. SLC and and the State of Utah should get on board and publicly endorse the citizen proposed Rio Grande Plan. It has so many benefits to it that will contribute towards a more sustainable future for our rapidly growing region. Lets use the momentum the returning Olympics will bring to improve our communities!

    • @porterwarren4688
      @porterwarren4688 Месяц назад +1

      To whoever is interested in and cares about improved regional transit and the long term sustainability of SLC and Utah, you should look up The Rio Grande Plan. It is a citizen proposal that would restore the historic Rio Grande Depot as the new Central Station. It's increased rail capacity in addition to FrontRunner Service would enable Trax realignment, rail service to Park City and Tooele and expanded Amtrak Service as well as intermodal connections. There are also a multitude of other benefits this plan can offer.

    • @porterwarren4688
      @porterwarren4688 Месяц назад +2

      Right now we are working to raise awareness in the public and to our elected officials. If you find our vision for a better Utah compelling please contact your elected officials and express your support. We need many voices for the powers that be to take this seriously.

  • @M.Mae.M
    @M.Mae.M Месяц назад +6

    Deer Valley will have to allow snowboarding during the games.

  • @NihalGhuman-xr4is
    @NihalGhuman-xr4is Месяц назад +10

    Two videos in one(ish) week? Fire🔥🔥🔥

  • @eyezak_m
    @eyezak_m Месяц назад +5

    Utah Transit Authority came out recently with their 2034 plans. Sadly, no projects oriented towards canyon service. However, they do want to build a direct service from the airport to the village. High Valley Transit which is an agency more around the Park City area. Wants to build bus lanes for buses coming from Salt Lake to Park City

    • @porterwarren4688
      @porterwarren4688 Месяц назад +1

      If you are interested in and care about improved regional transit and the long term sustainability of SLC and Utah, you should look up The Rio Grande Plan. It is a citizen proposal that would restore the historic Rio Grande Depot as the new Central Station. It's increased rail capacity in addition to FrontRunner Service would enable Trax realignment, rail service to Park City and Tooele and expanded Amtrak Service as well as intermodal connections. There are also a multitude of other benefits this plan can offer. Right now we are working to raise awareness in the public and to our elected officials. If you find our vision for a better Utah compelling please contact your elected officials the express your support. We need many voices for the powers that be to take this seriously.

    • @Spirited_skiing
      @Spirited_skiing Месяц назад

      lol why would we fix the canyons? The resorts are making wayyyyy too much in parking to do that. And public transit to all go up the same road is extremely communist /s

  • @Sunvalleycode
    @Sunvalleycode Месяц назад +3

    Deer Valley will not host the Slalom. All Alpine skiing events will be hosted at Snowbasin!

  • @nadakidd
    @nadakidd Месяц назад +2

    I spoke to a patroller today about opening Carpenter since they added Regulator to the front side trails as it would thin the herd on Tuesdays and Weekends. He said it's so old and unreliable that they only run it periodically and only in the winter. :(
    Also, F the gondola.

  • @mbtravel7294
    @mbtravel7294 Месяц назад +11

    I would love to see a rail system connecting downtown SLC and possibly the airport with the ski resorts. It would be a game changer. We need to catch up with the superior European system of doing things

  • @dg1019
    @dg1019 Месяц назад +41

    Time to connect the Cottonwood Canyons to Park City with a gondola.

    • @kosycat1
      @kosycat1 Месяц назад +6

      That makes even more sense than the little cottonwood gondola. Think of how much traffic that could save.

    • @igetu2c
      @igetu2c Месяц назад +1

      I was thinking the same thing. Looks like only about 5.4 miles from downtown PC to Solitude. Would probably take 35-40 minutes.

    • @dg1019
      @dg1019 Месяц назад +2

      @@kosycat1 I live in Mississippi and I can see its a better idea. One summer I drove Guardsman Pass Road across from Solitude and realized how close they were.

    • @RandomlyTV3
      @RandomlyTV3 Месяц назад +1

      Seems like it would be nice but it must never happen. Park city crowds would overwhelm the Cottonwood’s..

    • @kosycat1
      @kosycat1 Месяц назад

      @@RandomlyTV3 nahhh they would be too busy lodge pimping, they cant handle snowbird or solitude anyway

  • @Sean-yr9cq
    @Sean-yr9cq Месяц назад +24

    Given the infrastructure that SLC built up from 2002, I’m so excited to see what comes out of 2034. There’s a lot of NIMBYs against the games but I’m hopeful they won’t get a chance to block it. Would be awesome to see the Olympics back in SLC.

    • @seanmiller8151
      @seanmiller8151 Месяц назад

      NIMBY reporting for duty. Go to Denver. They haven’t had them yet

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Месяц назад +4

      No political will for it in Denver. Here’s a good article that sums it up: duclarion.com/2022/01/a-brief-history-of-denver-and-the-olympics/

    • @TrendyStone
      @TrendyStone Месяц назад +5

      I agree. An environmentalists is someone that already has THEIR place in the mountains and doesn’t want neighbors.

    • @seanmiller8151
      @seanmiller8151 Месяц назад +1

      @@TrendyStone Exactly

    • @porterwarren4688
      @porterwarren4688 Месяц назад +2

      To anyone interested in improved infrastructure for the long term sustainability of SLC, Utah and the broader region. They should look up the current citizen initiative of The Rio Grande Plan.

  • @ryanbradley3293
    @ryanbradley3293 Месяц назад

    I find it funny how I’ve lived in Utah my entire life and have never skiied and never really even been to the ski resorts except driving through the cottonwood canyon and Park City, the small coal mining town my grandpa grew up in. His house is now a historic building surrounded by ski rental apartments 😂

  • @josephrosner905
    @josephrosner905 Месяц назад +4

    next can u do a vid about the lift, facilities, and terrain upgrades across n. america for the upcoming season?

  • @ericneilson1198
    @ericneilson1198 Месяц назад +1

    If maintained this could eliminate the need (and expense) for new venues. Winter Olympic bids could alternate between SLC and Lake Placid if it was still viable. Sorry Squaw Valley, you were the best.

  • @LoneTreeAdventures
    @LoneTreeAdventures Месяц назад +5

    I work at snowbasin as an event specialist in the summer and parking manager in the winter. I am SO excited to be apart of the Olympics! I’m locked in at Snowbasin until 2035 it looks like 💪🎉❤
    Luckily we have already increased our bus stops and work with UTA. We also have no plan on charging for pricing in our parking lots 🤙

    • @parzival2874
      @parzival2874 Месяц назад

      Sick im 12 and i wanna work at snowbasin

    • @nicklarson801
      @nicklarson801 11 дней назад

      Snowbasin has awesome bus service. The cottonwood resorts need to take note.

  • @Hudson-M
    @Hudson-M Месяц назад +1

    Make mega resort with LCC BCC and PC improvements in transportation are definitely needed not enough parking in park city or room for that more traffic.

  • @Spirited_skiing
    @Spirited_skiing Месяц назад

    The LCC gondola sucks, we just need buses & snow sheds (overhead roofing under the avy slide paths that are widely used in Europe)

  • @goodson77784
    @goodson77784 Месяц назад

    Hey would you consider doing a video on which ski areas get DUMPED on the most at a time. Like Tahoe area looks like it gets these HUGE blizzards. Some areas get good snow all year but it's more even or consistent if you know what I mean. I wanna know who gets 1-2ft of pow at a time or more.

  • @nicklarson801
    @nicklarson801 11 дней назад

    What Utah really needs is.... more resorts. Our current resorts are getting too crowded.

  • @GeorgeBasye
    @GeorgeBasye Месяц назад

    Hey Peak Rankings awesome video!!! I was wondering if you would do a New Hampshire ski resorts ranked sometime🤔

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Месяц назад +1

      Stay tuned for later this fall!

  • @Gary-np7hl
    @Gary-np7hl Месяц назад

    lotta great points for discussion and debate... i don't know about adding capacity to allen peak.... that little single file catwalk with switchbacks is treacherous enough with the dozen or so folks trying to make their way down it without slamming or sliding into the person in front of them. also just need more busses and add avalanche sheds for LCC. even though they did cut service, UTA had busses on standby so it was much better this year getting folks up and down both canyons.

  • @wafflesnfalafel1
    @wafflesnfalafel1 Месяц назад +1

    We were there last year and it's nice - plus they have done (and are doing more) work to the airport which should make it even better. Park City really is beautiful. Everybody needs to buy a condo in the Sugar House district right now to rent out during the games.

  • @CARWASHCHANNEL.
    @CARWASHCHANNEL. Месяц назад

    Also Sundance is building and giant hotel by the entrance of the ski lift there so that can hold guests and alfleets

  • @skiyalater626
    @skiyalater626 Месяц назад

    The BUS was invented in the 1880's! Rail upgrades WAY OVER DUE.

  • @ItllBeFetch
    @ItllBeFetch Месяц назад

    Maybe, just maybe this means that the Eagle upgrade will go through. We can hope 🤞

  • @kainpwnsu
    @kainpwnsu Месяц назад

    LOL, the canyon gondola... If they announce that Ryan Socash will need to start writing a script about "the troubled history of the world's longest gondola". That thing is going to constantly break down and ultimately be abandoned due to astronomical maintenance costs. Combine that with dwindling snowfall and it's already a money pit.

  • @imjustyog
    @imjustyog Месяц назад +1

    Wowieee

  • @veganpotterthevegan
    @veganpotterthevegan Месяц назад +2

    Net Zero skiing is a joke until the jets(for one flight, per person) aren't producing the emissions of an average person in a developing nation for a year.

  • @daewonshaun1
    @daewonshaun1 Месяц назад

    Something important to note on the environmental sustainability front is that Snowbird recently finished a Geothermal power plant that supplies all the power to the resort. Pretty cool! It's located at the superior lot next to the fire station.

  • @grantmason9844
    @grantmason9844 Месяц назад

    Great commentary! And how fortunate to have all the recent PeakHouse footage to show, loved seeing it

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Месяц назад

      There will be plenty more PeakHouse footage in our videos over the coming months!

  • @benshappell6339
    @benshappell6339 Месяц назад +3

    Would love to see Denver or Reno/Sacramento to try for a bid in the future. Maybe the 2 only other viable locations in the U.S to host besides SLC

    • @alexconrad2904
      @alexconrad2904 Месяц назад

      I mean, Lake Placid has already hosted two Olympics, so I'm guessing that would be a viable host.

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Месяц назад +3

      Denver does not have the political will to host the games, and the other two are tough from an infrastructure and financial standpoint.

    • @nooneimportant8888
      @nooneimportant8888 Месяц назад

      @@PeakRankings San Francisco + Tahoe is the move. Everyone up there is from the Bay anyways!

    • @ericneilson1198
      @ericneilson1198 Месяц назад

      Squaw Valley ftw.

  • @START_
    @START_ Месяц назад

    tldr (not actually the video): Vail resorts will buy anything have haven't bought yet and ruin the rest of the resorts for locals. Still hyped for the olympics though.

  • @patchcuratolo5201
    @patchcuratolo5201 Месяц назад

    I wish I could go to the east coast peakhouse but I’ll be in another resort unfortunately I missed it by one day

  • @kosycat1
    @kosycat1 Месяц назад

    Wondering what snowbird plants on doing with the old cram cabis. I still never heard anything about them. i hope they reuse them with the marry ellen gluch expansion

    • @derrickcochran4044
      @derrickcochran4044 Месяц назад +1

      I know one of them is going to be repurposed as the outside bar for the Tram Club

    • @kosycat1
      @kosycat1 Месяц назад

      @@derrickcochran4044 omg im just laughing at all my spelling mistakes.. jay peak has something like that with their old cabins

  • @StadiumofLOLMAPS
    @StadiumofLOLMAPS Месяц назад +1

    I gave up on SLC resorts after the capacity made it so impractical to go. Maybe this could make it bearable again...

  • @DeltaChairlifts5
    @DeltaChairlifts5 27 дней назад

    could you rank schweitzer idaho next season?

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  25 дней назад

      @@DeltaChairlifts5 our written review is already up! www.peakrankings.com/content/schweitzer

    • @DeltaChairlifts5
      @DeltaChairlifts5 25 дней назад

      @@PeakRankings cool!

  • @Namedguy420
    @Namedguy420 Месяц назад +1

    You should travel to St. Paul for the Como park ski area!

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Месяц назад +1

      Como Park is a little small compared to the other ski resorts that are currently in our rankings (at least the outdoor ones)… but we’ll see!

  • @roadlesstraveled1819
    @roadlesstraveled1819 Месяц назад

    Any plans to try Terry Peak in SD soon? Biggest ski area in the midwest

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Месяц назад +1

      Potentially next season!

    • @waltysalamander
      @waltysalamander Месяц назад +1

      Not Lutsen? (Idk, I’m not a midwest skier)

    • @PeakRankings
      @PeakRankings  Месяц назад +1

      @@waltysalamander we'll try to go there too!

    • @igetu2c
      @igetu2c Месяц назад +1

      @@PeakRankings Mt. Bohemia after a famous lake effect dump?

    • @roadlesstraveled1819
      @roadlesstraveled1819 Месяц назад +1

      @@waltysalamander lutsen is the largest by acreage, but terry peak has the highest vertical drop. Third largest acreage behind lutsen and Mount bohemia

  • @bearclaw5115
    @bearclaw5115 Месяц назад +1

    I am in favor of the LCC gondola. But you know what I'm in even more favor for? MORE SKI RESORTS!! There aren't enough! If you study the history of ski resort development, you'll see growth pick up in the 1930's and really strong resort growth in the 1950's and 1960's. There has barely been a trickle of new ski resorts since the 1980's and yet the population has increased tremendously since then. The U.S. Forest Service needs to permit the use of more of it's land for ski resort development. We are too good at saying no these days.

    • @scotchtape6776
      @scotchtape6776 Месяц назад +5

      we dont need a gondola. We need avalanche sheds to protect from the big storm, and we need to implement more public transport via busses. I also think we should benefit carpools rather than single drivers. The gondola should be the absolute LAST resort.

    • @RandomlyTV3
      @RandomlyTV3 Месяц назад

      If enough people are willing to pay, there would be more ski resorts. There are plenty a fairly remote ski areas that barely have enough resources to operate on the weekends.

    • @matthewlarson738
      @matthewlarson738 Месяц назад +2

      I think a huge problem facing new ski resorts is environmentalism. Environmentalists get really pissy when someone tries to develop in the mountains. They also have more power over the forest service than private land and the forest service owns the vast majority of viable land for ski resorts.

    • @Gary-np7hl
      @Gary-np7hl Месяц назад

      ​@@scotchtape6776as a frequent rider of both the 972 and 994 I totally agree with you.

  • @blakeearl5276
    @blakeearl5276 Месяц назад

    There won’t be a 2034 Olympics.

  • @ericd8739
    @ericd8739 Месяц назад +3

    I really hope SLC isn't a constant location for the Olympics, that would be a nightmare. Also, pretty much everyone agrees that something needs to be done regarding traffic in BCC and LCC, just that the gondola isn't the answer...most hate that idea. Getting rid of the Epic and Ikon passes would be a good start.

    • @igetu2c
      @igetu2c Месяц назад +3

      Get rid of Epic and Ikon? Making skiing more expensive is not the answer, in my opinion. And how would getting rid of Epic help the Cottonwoods?

    • @kosycat1
      @kosycat1 Месяц назад

      No only that but boring. they should go to Alaska

    • @ItllBeFetch
      @ItllBeFetch Месяц назад

      Are you seriously saying world renowned resorts like Alta and Snowbird would magically have less traffic if they get taken off a megapass? I doubt that. I think the best solution other than rail would be bus service every 5 minutes and the only private vehicles allowed in the canyon are residents and deliveries. I do agree that the gondola is a really f***ing stupid idea though.

    • @kosycat1
      @kosycat1 Месяц назад

      @@ItllBeFetch Whats stupid is that there is virtually no good mass public transit in this country beside a few places. Gondolas a viable mass public trasic tools. Especially in the mountains.If Utah legilized cannabis for recreational use they could have enough money to build the little cottonwood gondola in less than a year.

    • @Spirited_skiing
      @Spirited_skiing Месяц назад

      I mean we could just do buses with expanded parking at the base and bus lines radiating into the city. 1 bus takes 30+ cars off the road, it seems very doable

  • @jameskiller1000
    @jameskiller1000 Месяц назад

    09:45 "if the state knows what it's doing..." well, the one thing we all know and come to appreciate is that our government absolutely has zero idea wtf it is doing 95% of the time.

    • @TKDCats312
      @TKDCats312 Месяц назад

      You don't have to out yourself as an idiot like that.

    • @nathaniellowe1215
      @nathaniellowe1215 Месяц назад +1

      Born and raised Utahn here. I don't agree with the sentiment. Utah has done just about a good a job as a government reasonably can. I couldn't point to a better run state in the entire union to be honest.

    • @JCsouthernmiss
      @JCsouthernmiss Месяц назад +1

      Fellow Utahn and I agree. The state does know what it’s doing. An incredibly well-run state

    • @jameskiller1000
      @jameskiller1000 Месяц назад

      @nathaniellowe1215 and @JCsouthernmiss - good for you both! I live in SF and oooofff - too much taxation, but the streets remain dangerous and run down. I have no clue where all my CA tax went. fuck CA

    • @TKDCats312
      @TKDCats312 Месяц назад

      @@jameskiller1000 Over 70% of the state's budget goes toward K-12 education, higher ed, and health/human services. Your state is one of the most desirable places to live in the country and THAT is why it's so fucking expensive and densely populated.

  • @kosycat1
    @kosycat1 Месяц назад +9

    The Cottonwood gondola makes way more sense than thousands of cars spewing shit everywhere,and sitting goingnowhere filling the canyon with pollution. No to mention negation a lot of the dangers an accidents and money spent having to clear the road.

    • @pgallagher411
      @pgallagher411 Месяц назад

      They won't be in LCC, thankfully

    • @ShaunEk1
      @ShaunEk1 Месяц назад +1

      Recommend doing some deeper research on the proposed gondola. It seems like such a wonderful plan until you dig into all the nitty gritty detail. The gondola isn’t going to happen.

    • @igetu2c
      @igetu2c Месяц назад +5

      The gondola would apparently take 55 minutes. That is way too long. Best idea is to significantly increase buses at peak times once they start the toll booth collection

    • @kosycat1
      @kosycat1 Месяц назад

      @@igetu2c I do'n think that is too long.I would use that time to gear up,make sure my boots are pefect. have a snack, relax a bit before starting the day. instead of being in a stessfull car with people behind you beeping, passing you...slding off into the canyon below..that sorta thing. i think it would be quicker than that. maybe 15 minutes longer than driving if it does take that long.

    • @kosycat1
      @kosycat1 Месяц назад

      @@ShaunEk1 I have though. It cost almost 2 million per mile just to build road. An ha a high maintince cost than the gondola,and needs to be cleared of snow and rock and debirs o the regular. the envoinmental impact in the long term would be far worse than with no gondola and just adding more highway. the highway itself has already "scarred" the canyon" and when its life is over it will no leave nearly the scare that a big highway does. all the gas , greese ,brake dust, coolant. how many people die on the cottowod canyon roads each year?

  • @kendestine9905
    @kendestine9905 Месяц назад +3

    The beginning of the end began when the first Olympics came to Utah. We used to have paradise. Now it’s just over crowded nonsense. I wish the Olympic’s never came to this state. Now it’s only going to get worse.

    • @JCsouthernmiss
      @JCsouthernmiss Месяц назад

      As a lifelong Utahn, sorry my dude but desirable places are well.. desirable. Just how it works. Utah is not a secret anymore and never will be again. But there are benefits to the growth too that imo far exceed our former exclusivity

    • @kendestine9905
      @kendestine9905 Месяц назад

      @@JCsouthernmiss I get it. It’s just a hard pill to swallow. I remember how it was when I was a kid and I want it to be that way for mine. I wish my kids could enjoy the 16 dollar day/night passes that I did. Unfortunately those days are long gone. Now it’s a sport that’s only for the rich.

  • @bimmersbbws6863
    @bimmersbbws6863 Месяц назад

    first?

  • @TKDCats312
    @TKDCats312 Месяц назад +1

    The notion that Salt Lake City would even be contemplated as a PERMANENT host of the Olympics every four years is an absolutely laughable joke and you should be ashamed of it.
    Olympic committees aren't comprised of just Americans, and they're obligated to vary the host COUNTRY, not just the host city. Stupid thing to put in the video.

  • @bimmersbbws6863
    @bimmersbbws6863 Месяц назад

    first?