As a newcomer to tennis at 30yo I find your videos really insightful in a way that doesn’t detriment natural growth but encourage learning from different storys. I’ve competed at a pro level in 2 other sports but tennis is a different kettle of fish in terms of progression and involvement, and I hope to have the level of competence to come back to this comment 2 years from now and be able to say “I’ve got what is needed to be a respectable player” overall.
He’s not “a victim of his own success”. He’s a victim of his own volatility. He would also benefit greatly if his accompanying parent did not interfere with his coaching. That’s what coaches are paid to do.
Although nearly all tennis parents become toxic with the exception of a few (Melanie Molitor, Richard Williams) I dont think she's the problem. Rune is totally his own problem. Like you said, his own volatility add to that his brat behavior and immaturity.
@@AC-ss5oy is she the main problem? no but I think its a little foolish to say she isn't a problem. she has too much control for a parent in my opinion
Please do a deep dive into seb Korda. He’s got incredible ground strokes, a good serve, and good hands. It seems weird he hasn’t exploded yet. He’s got an incredibly smooth game that’s very entertaining.
When I watch him, personally I think what’s holding him back is just not as good a tennis IQ and poorer point construction and shot selection. He has a habit of playing very defensively out of nowhere which isn’t his game. I root for him and he has all the shots, but maybe needs a mental coach, and to focus on practicing certain patterns of play he likes more, just to give his game more stability.
At one point I also though Seb Korda alongwith Rune, Alcaraz and Sinner will be the new big 4. Today, I can't even imagine taking the names of other 2 in the same league as Alcaraz and Sinner....
In my opinium, we need players like Rune playing tennis. He was too hyped in 22-23, and i believe that was too hard for him mentally. He will get there by time. His game is improving a lot lately, and i love watching him being a threat to other players!
His forehand isn't a natural shot, though it can be great when it clicks. But already there are a lot of players coming through who are hitting huge. Draper, Fils etc. It's going to get a lot harder to compete at the top.
Rune is very talented and in the league of sinner and alcaraz , he is just not there mentally and the problem with coaching , he should stick to one coach and try to be consistent.
I think that, in addition to keeping a long term relation with Christensen as the base coach, a sports psychologist needs to be added permanently to the team. The guy needs a much better management of emotions during matches. This will help with shot selection, concentration, patiencd in and off the court... Is the mental part that needs to be tackled for him to be able to bring all his potential
I agree he can get distracted. But remember people "focus" in different ways; Federer would pick at his strings. Nadal was constantly touching everything. Kyrigios wont shut up the whole match. These are just their ways to focus. I think Holger's yelling actually works for him in big moments. His win over Sinner in Monte Carlo, when the Crowd was against him, was one of the most dominant things I've ever seen.
@@RomainLussier Because Toni Nadal always maintained as much stability as he could around Rafa and, by Rafa's own admission, was terrifying enough to keep the kid in check at all times. Why do you think he's never broken a racquet on court in his entire career? 😂😂😂😂
I like your videos and I like Rune too. He might have character flaws but I’m not one to judge and he’s a sweet guy when he’s not hot tempered. Hoping he has a long and successful career
Holger is so hard to root for, it’s so easy to kinda get into his bratty annoying attitude when he’s winning, but it’s so easy to hate it when he’s losing.
Obv their attitudes are very diffrent but I’m having problems rooting for ruud at the moment aswell, he seems so fine with loosing every important match he plays. Yes it’s nice how kind he is and stuff, but he needs to have an attitude more like runes where he actually shows that he cares about his matches, and he really needs to get a new coach, that’s what brought sinner to a new level aswell
Another great video, thank you! Could you please consider doing a deep dive into Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard? The way he has shot up the rankings and his serve is just incredible. His performance lately has been amazing.
The day Rune practices restraint it will be game over for everybody. At this moment he is too volatile and like you said, impatient. That is his biggest issue.
He’s getting the same treatment that shapo got where everyone says that they are the next big thing and then when they don’t perform everyone gets confused. What I’m trying to say is people should stop thrusting these expectations on people cause then they might crumble in the eye of expectation.
Make a clip about Mouratougle! It's time to talk about couches. Darren Cahill as well. They both trained successful players, but just one is consistent in getting great results with their players. 😊
What was Rune ranking when six kings slam was announced? Zverev seemed like better choice, granted he’s not grand slam champ neither but better at this point
Great analysis. Victim of his early success, give the guy sometime to mature, thats alot of pressure for a very young man. I wish him the best. Personally I would like to see his mother relinquish control, but like you said parent/coach relationships are extremely complicated
Rune vs evans at the french open 2024, he was a beast, ending points rather quickly. I hope to see that rune come back. either with patrick as a coach or otherwise.
5:15 It's reasonable to say it's not good to make predictions, but here's why I think it's most likely that Rune will be more like a Tsitsipas or Kyrgios, and won't match the greats: the "Who They Lose To" test. In Grand Slams, great players often lose to good players, but rarely -- maybe once every two years or so -- to mediocre players. The great players, even when young, lost to other seeded players. Even though they hadn't won much yet, they were competitive, exiting only at the hands of a worthy contender. Meanwhile the good but not great players would often fall to unseeded players -- often about half the time. They'd have some impressive results, finals, semifinals, and so on, but too often would come up short against middling competition. Then prime age has almost universally been 23-28, where the most winning of Grand Slams occurs. This is how I knew Sinner was ready to break out before his AO run, and that Rune was (and is) likely to struggle with inconsistent success.
Can you please make a video on Tomic? And what your thoughts are about his comeback? His future? Do you see him making the top 100 in the world again? Top 50? Thanks.
@@Leejungwoo48 we all know Tomic can win anything he wants but the only skill he's missing is math skills he just can't seem to finish counting his millions
He’s been playing fairly well recently. He’s a top 15 player at best which is still amazing, but he’s not in the same category as Jannik and Carlos. And I’m a big Holger fan.
Rune will get outpaced by his generation at this rate. Fils, Shelton, Musetti, Draper are nearly there and you definitely take them over Rune in any big match.
Getting rid of that snake oil salesman Mouratoglou and maybe his mother would be a good start. Hire a proper coach like Rick Macci or Brad Gilbert and listen what they have to say. Do not fire them after 2 months. And then he should figure out what his gameplan is, defence oriented like Murray, solid baseliner like Djokovic or aggressive like Federer? Kinda reminds me of Tsitsipas tbh, solid work ethic , but too fixated on his family ( mother in this case), his FH and return of serve are weaknesses and just talent is not gonna make up for it.
I think Rune should have a chat with Novak. Looks like only he can help this immensely talented player. IMO he is in the league of Alcaraz and Sinner, gamewise.
Bo Madsen rejoins Mew before we see Rune win any Masters 1000 title again. He's way too soft in the head and waved the white flag against Arthur Fils at Hamburg without even getting injured.
He will probably be in the top5 for a while, but it is just his personality when it comes to why people are doubting on him. Because, Alcaraz and Sinner had 'grown up' so fast, and Rune should manage how to act like a mature tennis player. He is a huge potential, but still he will come nowhere as close as Alcaraz and Sinner in the future
His narcissistic mother backing off and stepping away is the elephant in the room here. He won’t be a man until that happens. Maybe he should go talk to Jimmy Connors.
I wish Holger well, but I hope he doesn’t become the future of tennis unless he matures more as a person. I just don’t think he has the right attitude and ethical backbone to become a true champion or role model. Both Holger and Stefanos strike me as being quite similar in this regard: incredibly talented, hardworking, and ambitious, but flawed in their character and lacking kindness, humility, and solidarity. To put it bluntly, I just don’t get the sense that either of them are fundamentally good people. Don’t get me wrong, they’re not psychopaths and, obviously, they’re both well travelled and socially competent, but if you’ve ever seen interviews with Stefanos’ father or Holger’s Mom, Aneke, you’ll probably have picked up, as I did, on something uncomfortable and unconscientious about their personalities which seems to have been passed onto their children. Anyhow, I don’t expect Holger to reach his potential as a tennis player. I do, however, expect him to do very well in real estate once he’s retired.
He just comes of as an entitled brat on the court. He’s not very likable. I watch him today against Zverev and he literally just played to his backhand the whole match. Zverev has one of the best backhands there is so why would you play straight there? His decisions are always puzzling.
Also. It’s hard for every player to mentally have to deal with the fact that sinner is still allowed to play. Every person who lost to that cheater I am sure feels sick about their tennis and what could or SHOULD have been.
Ur analysis is completely off becus u dont know the real reason, which is that he has been giving back all the gifts he was given in his breakthrough year like all the fake victories in his Paris win in 2021. Ochram razor. Dont invent complicated explanations when there is a simple one that also happens to be true. In 2025 he will again be allowed to play his best which he will do in the masters and slams. In the smaller tournaments he will continue to tank just like all the other top players. Ur welcome!
Let’s be realistic-he’s a good player, but not a great one. Despite his cockiness, He lacks the offensive and defensive prowess of players like Sinner, Alcaraz, and other real contenders moving up. He is a pretender, not a contender, like Shapovolav, kyrgios, Tsitsipas. Zero chance to win a slam like the others. It’s not just Sinner and Alcaraz who will outclass him; rising talents like Machac and maybe even Draper are the ones gearing up to contend for slams.
I can‘t stand this childish mannerless brat. When he humiliated his mother in front of millions of people his career was ended as far as I was concerned.. 👎🤮👎
For me, his technique looked like an overachieving junior player. Meaning swinging big and having good matchups. I think he is 80 ATP at best. That is ok, I still do not see him in control of any matches.
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As a newcomer to tennis at 30yo I find your videos really insightful in a way that doesn’t detriment natural growth but encourage learning from different storys. I’ve competed at a pro level in 2 other sports but tennis is a different kettle of fish in terms of progression and involvement, and I hope to have the level of competence to come back to this comment 2 years from now and be able to say “I’ve got what is needed to be a respectable player” overall.
He’s not “a victim of his own success”. He’s a victim of his own volatility. He would also benefit greatly if his accompanying parent did not interfere with his coaching. That’s what coaches are paid to do.
Although nearly all tennis parents become toxic with the exception of a few (Melanie Molitor, Richard Williams) I dont think she's the problem. Rune is totally his own problem. Like you said, his own volatility add to that his brat behavior and immaturity.
@@AC-ss5oy is she the main problem? no but I think its a little foolish to say she isn't a problem. she has too much control for a parent in my opinion
@@jacobsicard2221 agree to disagree.
Please do a deep dive into seb Korda. He’s got incredible ground strokes, a good serve, and good hands. It seems weird he hasn’t exploded yet. He’s got an incredibly smooth game that’s very entertaining.
When I watch him, personally I think what’s holding him back is just not as good a tennis IQ and poorer point construction and shot selection. He has a habit of playing very defensively out of nowhere which isn’t his game. I root for him and he has all the shots, but maybe needs a mental coach, and to focus on practicing certain patterns of play he likes more, just to give his game more stability.
At one point I also though Seb Korda alongwith Rune, Alcaraz and Sinner will be the new big 4. Today, I can't even imagine taking the names of other 2 in the same league as Alcaraz and Sinner....
Korda doesn have the fire/passion for the game. Shelton is definitely the future of American tennis.
Yeah I had high hopes for Rune as well (definitely not Korda LOL)
I thought it was gonna be them except replace korda with faa
I think the rivals with future against Big 2 are Shelton, Fils and Draper as of today, Mpeshi Perricard is entering the league.
In my opinium, we need players like Rune playing tennis. He was too hyped in 22-23, and i believe that was too hard for him mentally. He will get there by time. His game is improving a lot lately, and i love watching him being a threat to other players!
His forehand isn't a natural shot, though it can be great when it clicks. But already there are a lot of players coming through who are hitting huge. Draper, Fils etc. It's going to get a lot harder to compete at the top.
Rune is very talented and in the league of sinner and alcaraz , he is just not there mentally and the problem with coaching , he should stick to one coach and try to be consistent.
I think that, in addition to keeping a long term relation with Christensen as the base coach, a sports psychologist needs to be added permanently to the team. The guy needs a much better management of emotions during matches. This will help with shot selection, concentration, patiencd in and off the court... Is the mental part that needs to be tackled for him to be able to bring all his potential
I agree he can get distracted. But remember people "focus" in different ways; Federer would pick at his strings. Nadal was constantly touching everything. Kyrigios wont shut up the whole match. These are just their ways to focus. I think Holger's yelling actually works for him in big moments. His win over Sinner in Monte Carlo, when the Crowd was against him, was one of the most dominant things I've ever seen.
Great analysis 👍 👌 We need to be a little more patient with Rune. He will come through eventually, I'm pretty sure.
A dominant momwho wasnt an elite tennis player should know when to step back coz she isnt all-knowing
@@isabellasmith8377 100% correct 👍
Talk to me about Toni Nadal, he's never been at the top either but yet, the longevity & success with Rafa has been amazing
@@RomainLussier Because Toni Nadal always maintained as much stability as he could around Rafa and, by Rafa's own admission, was terrifying enough to keep the kid in check at all times. Why do you think he's never broken a racquet on court in his entire career? 😂😂😂😂
I like your videos and I like Rune too. He might have character flaws but I’m not one to judge and he’s a sweet guy when he’s not hot tempered. Hoping he has a long and successful career
Holger is so hard to root for, it’s so easy to kinda get into his bratty annoying attitude when he’s winning, but it’s so easy to hate it when he’s losing.
Do you mean hate his annoying attitude, and like when he's winning ? Or am I misunderstanding
@@penglet7392 like it’s annoying but kinda fun, like he’s a little villainous but how exciting it is when the villain wins something you know?
Obv their attitudes are very diffrent but I’m having problems rooting for ruud at the moment aswell, he seems so fine with loosing every important match he plays. Yes it’s nice how kind he is and stuff, but he needs to have an attitude more like runes where he actually shows that he cares about his matches, and he really needs to get a new coach, that’s what brought sinner to a new level aswell
@@VaJoRo I fully agree it feels like he dgaf about tennis when it‘s not a clay tournament
@@HunterW.Photographyyour “villain” won’t be winning a GS tournament anytime soon though. Sorry about that.
Another great video, thank you! Could you please consider doing a deep dive into Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard? The way he has shot up the rankings and his serve is just incredible. His performance lately has been amazing.
I feel sad for him. So much talent yet no coach.
The day Rune practices restraint it will be game over for everybody. At this moment he is too volatile and like you said, impatient. That is his biggest issue.
I just watched Rune get nuked by Perricard live in Basel. He really had no answers, not even questions
he lost 7/6-6/4...is that getting nuked ??
@magstine he had no answers to GMP's nuclear weaponry bro, it was scary
@@koolfraser No one have yet! what do you expect with that serve?
@@magstine khachanov just beat him in Paris, how sad!
He’s getting the same treatment that shapo got where everyone says that they are the next big thing and then when they don’t perform everyone gets confused. What I’m trying to say is people should stop thrusting these expectations on people cause then they might crumble in the eye of expectation.
Same with FAA
News Flash: they weren’t as good as people were saying…
Ayy that Wimbledon to him about the new "Big 3" was from us haha!
Consistency is the problem for him now
Make a clip about Mouratougle! It's time to talk about couches. Darren Cahill as well. They both trained successful players, but just one is consistent in getting great results with their players. 😊
Why wasn’t Zverev at the six kings slam?
What was Rune ranking when six kings slam was announced? Zverev seemed like better choice, granted he’s not grand slam champ neither but better at this point
I think there were too much expectations. Not everyone js sinner and alcaraz or the big 3. For a 21yo it's a good career.
Time to talk about Alexander Zeverev too.. Is he going to be the thorn in the Sincaraz duopoly?
Great analysis. Victim of his early success, give the guy sometime to mature, thats alot of pressure for a very young man. I wish him the best. Personally I would like to see his mother relinquish control, but like you said parent/coach relationships are extremely complicated
I don’t think she is the head coach.
he's my favorite player and I think he's gonna do so good
Rune vs evans at the french open 2024, he was a beast, ending points rather quickly. I hope to see that rune come back. either with patrick as a coach or otherwise.
Having a domineering parent in your setup is a recipe for disaster. Look at what's happened to Tsitsipas.
I hope he finds his way 😊
I watched a match where is mother got sooooo involved and his play was affected!!
Your analysis is spot on! Rune belongs in the fluctuant top ten.....
5:15 It's reasonable to say it's not good to make predictions, but here's why I think it's most likely that Rune will be more like a Tsitsipas or Kyrgios, and won't match the greats: the "Who They Lose To" test. In Grand Slams, great players often lose to good players, but rarely -- maybe once every two years or so -- to mediocre players.
The great players, even when young, lost to other seeded players. Even though they hadn't won much yet, they were competitive, exiting only at the hands of a worthy contender.
Meanwhile the good but not great players would often fall to unseeded players -- often about half the time. They'd have some impressive results, finals, semifinals, and so on, but too often would come up short against middling competition.
Then prime age has almost universally been 23-28, where the most winning of Grand Slams occurs. This is how I knew Sinner was ready to break out before his AO run, and that Rune was (and is) likely to struggle with inconsistent success.
I have been waiting for this video for a long time❤❤
Rune is the only top player to lose consistent to Ruud. That says a lot.
I think thats says more about Ruud lol that guy lacks any semblance of a killer instinct.
@@bigvanna Oh yes, for sure. And Rune is unable to beat him regularly anyway.
He's so talented and amazing player howewer he is lack of constency
It's a pity for him...
I don't think the second half of this year has been as bad as the first or am I wrong on that?
I don’t think you’re wrong
No need to prematurely classify him. He has for sure star power with his blond villain persona and short shorts 😁
Bullying is fine??
I believe Rune is playing less agressive than he can, just to training consistence !! Let see him in the next season!!
Can you please make a video on Tomic? And what your thoughts are about his comeback? His future? Do you see him making the top 100 in the world again? Top 50? Thanks.
what's more to say about the GOAT?
@@lotus630 HAHA that he's also the Lord :D
@@Leejungwoo48
we all know Tomic can win anything he wants
but the only skill he's missing is math skills
he just can't seem to finish counting his millions
I think what rune needs is a Nadal like figure in his life and in his coaching team....
He’s been playing fairly well recently. He’s a top 15 player at best which is still amazing, but he’s not in the same category as Jannik and Carlos. And I’m a big Holger fan.
I like Rune...
....🤞for Paris.
apart from the high quality content, the audio-quality is off this time. The microphone is way to loud at times which leads to a bad audio-quality.
Rune will get outpaced by his generation at this rate. Fils, Shelton, Musetti, Draper are nearly there and you definitely take them over Rune in any big match.
Calm down young man! Yours not fighting a war! Be more like Roger not NO Vac!
Mommy's boy a la Andy Murray? Such a mental game at this level. Less negative pressure from player's box could be the difference maker.
I find it hard to root for this guy.
The guy is 21. That’s the reason for all this. I think if he keeps grinding he will have a breakthrough and then he’ll take off.
Getting rid of that snake oil salesman Mouratoglou and maybe his mother would be a good start. Hire a proper coach like Rick Macci or Brad Gilbert and listen what they have to say. Do not fire them after 2 months.
And then he should figure out what his gameplan is, defence oriented like Murray, solid baseliner like Djokovic or aggressive like Federer?
Kinda reminds me of Tsitsipas tbh, solid work ethic , but too fixated on his family ( mother in this case), his FH and return of serve are weaknesses and just talent is not gonna make up for it.
ngl, pretty sure casper ruud deserves the call up more than rune
ngl I think he‘ll get a R1 or R2 exit again in Paris this week
call up for six kings slam? ruud said he turned it down
@@jellyg0d ruud or rune?
poor rune, he caint get no respect.....
I think Rune should have a chat with Novak. Looks like only he can help this immensely talented player. IMO he is in the league of Alcaraz and Sinner, gamewise.
Bo Madsen rejoins Mew before we see Rune win any Masters 1000 title again. He's way too soft in the head and waved the white flag against Arthur Fils at Hamburg without even getting injured.
Holger needs to get rid of his mom and let the coaches be coaches.
Do you know 6kings slam
Invited Rune??? Not Zverev or Rublev or someone else?
Because it was arranged over a year before when he was playing better then Zverev and Rublev. Zverev was still coming back from injury as well.
his mom was right about something...having a girlfriend was a distraction..bro hasnt been the same since getting one lol
He will probably be in the top5 for a while, but it is just his personality when it comes to why people are doubting on him.
Because, Alcaraz and Sinner had 'grown up' so fast, and Rune should manage how to act like a mature tennis player.
He is a huge potential, but still he will come nowhere as close as Alcaraz and Sinner in the future
His narcissistic mother backing off and stepping away is the elephant in the room here. He won’t be a man until that happens. Maybe he should go talk to Jimmy Connors.
No!
reminds me of Berdych
Mommie dearest definitely needs to go
SEND MOM HOOOME
no chance...
Holger is a king - just like Joffrey Baratheon.
Fritz is way ahead of Rune.
He is 26 and is only now making any waves!
I wish Holger well, but I hope he doesn’t become the future of tennis unless he matures more as a person. I just don’t think he has the right attitude and ethical backbone to become a true champion or role model.
Both Holger and Stefanos strike me as being quite similar in this regard: incredibly talented, hardworking, and ambitious, but flawed in their character and lacking kindness, humility, and solidarity. To put it bluntly, I just don’t get the sense that either of them are fundamentally good people.
Don’t get me wrong, they’re not psychopaths and, obviously, they’re both well travelled and socially competent, but if you’ve ever seen interviews with Stefanos’ father or Holger’s Mom, Aneke, you’ll probably have picked up, as I did, on something uncomfortable and unconscientious about their personalities which seems to have been passed onto their children.
Anyhow, I don’t expect Holger to reach his potential as a tennis player. I do, however, expect him to do very well in real estate once he’s retired.
He just comes of as an entitled brat on the court. He’s not very likable. I watch him today against Zverev and he literally just played to his backhand the whole match. Zverev has one of the best backhands there is so why would you play straight there? His decisions are always puzzling.
At least Holger doesn’t beat up Women 😁
@ what is funny about someone beating up women? Glad that’s funny to you. I don’t find it funny.
most top underachieving tennis players need a psychiatrist more than a tennis coach
Also. It’s hard for every player to mentally have to deal with the fact that sinner is still allowed to play. Every person who lost to that cheater I am sure feels sick about their tennis and what could or SHOULD have been.
Makeitlucid....even your ridiculous nickname says It all!
Good analysis. One thing missing was his homophobic comment/ on court behaviour. That sure does add to his mental maturity.
The future of what??😂😂
He can start by fire the mom
No no no no ..,
He has one of the worst form of forehand… it will break sooner or later and it is broke now.,,
Not one of my favourites, that's for sure
Ur analysis is completely off becus u dont know the real reason, which is that he has been giving back all the gifts he was given in his breakthrough year like all the fake victories in his Paris win in 2021. Ochram razor. Dont invent complicated explanations when there is a simple one that also happens to be true. In 2025 he will again be allowed to play his best which he will do in the masters and slams. In the smaller tournaments he will continue to tank just like all the other top players. Ur welcome!
Overrated
He's a brat. I honestly can't stand him. I don't get the hype
Let’s be realistic-he’s a good player, but not a great one. Despite his cockiness, He lacks the offensive and defensive prowess of players like Sinner, Alcaraz, and other real contenders moving up. He is a pretender, not a contender, like Shapovolav, kyrgios, Tsitsipas. Zero chance to win a slam like the others. It’s not just Sinner and Alcaraz who will outclass him; rising talents like Machac and maybe even Draper are the ones gearing up to contend for slams.
The draper Rune just best 2-0 and who turn 23 this december? And Machac who is 24? Ok.
I can‘t stand this childish mannerless brat. When he humiliated his mother in front of millions of people his career was ended as far as I was concerned.. 👎🤮👎
It was years ago ,what was he 18.People expect too much of what are really teenage kids just because they play tennis.
rune is not the future too inconsisitent,the future are alcaraz,sinner,fils,shelton,perricard,mensik,draper,machac,lehecka
He's overrated.
For me, his technique looked like an overachieving junior player. Meaning swinging big and having good matchups. I think he is 80 ATP at best. That is ok, I still do not see him in control of any matches.
Real mean video actually
Did you watch the video at all? Maybe I’m missing something. Tell me one thing that was mean in the video.
@@emmanuelokosun7624 everyone is allowed their opinion. Just like you
I don't think you'll like my opinion of you @@james.dor8
@@emmanuelokosun7624 Rune burner account...lol
@@james.dor8that wasn't mean
Overrated
Overrated